Latest / Spiritual AF! / EP #82 - Leaving the Safe Path with Stephanie Mansour
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- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Back Yourself, our very special five part series.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: And let me tell you, I've been enjoying these conversations so much.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: Five completely different stories about backing yourself, taking the leap of faith and trust.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: Messages that I feel like we all need to hear.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: And today's guest is someone that delivers such a powerful message.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: Today I'm talking to Steph Mansour from Seek with Steph.
- 0:30SPEAKER_00: Now, by day, Steph is a speech pathologist.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: But secretly, or not so secretly, she also works with Tarot, Oracle, Numerology, Reiki, and sound healing.
- 0:42SPEAKER_00: Which means that we should dive right in because I have so many questions.
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: Let's start here.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: So, Steph, you have these two completely different worlds.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: So you've got this world of going to work and acting as a speech pathologist, which I guess plugs really into more of like the science and logical mind and all of that stuff.
- 1:04SPEAKER_00: And then there's this world of intuition, oracle cards, tarot, energy.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: How on earth did those two sides cross?
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: What happened?
- 1:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's it's an interesting journey when I reflect on it.
- 1:18SPEAKER_01: I think there are certain points in my life, maybe where there was an entry point or like a portal into this real spiritual intuitive world.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: But it's always been there.
- 1:29SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what's interesting, reflecting back, even as a child, I was always labeled sensitive or shy.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: So I was always, I think, quite uh sensitive to energies already.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: And I also I was raised in a very kind of traditional Catholic Christian household, but even my mum was quite spiritual now that I reflect on it.
- 1:50SPEAKER_01: She taught me certain things about working with energy when I had a bad dream to surround myself in white light and things like that that I just thought were Christian or Catholic because that's what we were.
- 2:01SPEAKER_01: So she also was quite open, and it's only upon reflecting back as an adult that I realized I was exposed to some of this world, I guess, from an early age.
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: But I say there is a real kind of distinct moment where I went through an awakening or whatever you want to call it, and that was around the time when I was in London.
- 2:23SPEAKER_01: So I was gonna say migrated, but I moved to London and I had re-completely upped my life.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: So I didn't know anyone there.
- 2:33SPEAKER_01: I just had, I guess, this intuitive pool.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't have called it that at the time, but I just had this inner knowing that I had to go.
- 2:39SPEAKER_01: And there was again no real reason.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: I had a really good job here.
- 2:41SPEAKER_01: I was in a relationship, even at the time, was living in a great house, but I just knew I had to go there.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: And so I did.
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: And shortly after going, I met this guy and was, you know, absolutely kind of head over heels for him.
- 2:55SPEAKER_01: And so what's interesting about this story and how it starts is that I had a friend contact me who I hadn't been in contact with for ages.
- 3:04SPEAKER_01: She out of the blue sent me a message and said, Well, firstly, how how are you?
- 3:08SPEAKER_01: That sort of thing.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: But then she said, Steph, I have a message for you.
- 3:11SPEAKER_01: And I was like, This is weird.
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: And so we kind of went on this path of her telling me this message.
- 3:17SPEAKER_01: And her message at the time was, you've met the one, and he's your twin flame.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: Now I had no idea what twin flame meant, and I was like, How is she?
- 3:25SPEAKER_01: I I haven't spoken to her in ages.
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: And also, mind you, she was someone from my speech pathology master's degree.
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: So, not a space where we ever spoke about anything other than you know, that logical health science related stuff.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: So it kind of was really intriguing.
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: I was like, wow, on top of feeling like, wow, I've met the one, this is amazing.
- 3:47SPEAKER_01: But we had this chat, and you know, I was finding out more information about how did she get these messages, and you know, she was telling me all this information about her own journey with it, and she said, you know, I'm an earth angel, and you're an earth angel too.
- 4:00SPEAKER_01: And I was like, what does this all mean?
- 4:02SPEAKER_01: And she said, Earth angels come from earth angels, so your mom's an earth angel.
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: And as I said, my mom has always been quite open to this stuff.
- 4:08SPEAKER_01: So some some of these things were scientific into place.
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: What was really interesting is that she was explaining this concept of twin flame to me, and I remember thinking to myself, this idea of the chaser, the runner, and all of this.
- 4:23SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know much about twin flames, but I remember thinking to myself, look, this is great, and I'm I'm so happy that I've met the one, but I don't want to excuse any bad behavior.
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: I don't want this to be, you know, like oh, he's my twin flame, so therefore he gets away with whatnot.
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: So I remember being quite aware of that.
- 4:41SPEAKER_01: But the reason I mentioned that story is because I think if she had never had that call with me, I don't think I'd ever really have opened up my sense of curiosity into all of this space.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: Because what ended up happening is that guy turned out to be not very nice.
- 4:57SPEAKER_01: And he wasn't my twin flame.
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: Um, now that I reflect on it, I genuinely believe he was what I'd probably call a karmic soulmate.
- 5:04SPEAKER_01: We both entered each other's lives to sort of learn a lot of lessons.
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: But as I said, I am really grateful that she had that contact with me because that was really what opened up my world to this other way of operating.
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: And the fact that she was all the way back in Australia, I was in London, had no idea what was going on.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: She could tap into some of the things that I was experiencing.
- 5:27SPEAKER_01: I just was blown away.
- 5:28SPEAKER_01: So that was really the entry point of how it all started to, I suppose, yeah, increase my curiosity in the space.
- 5:35SPEAKER_01: And then from there, I then bought a deck of tarot cards.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: Uh and this seems to be it all starts to unfold.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: And at the start, it was me again.
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: I was just really curious.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: I was leaning into it, I was learning about them, and I was doing them for myself, but I was also starting them to do uh readings for friends.
- 5:53SPEAKER_01: I'd take them everywhere with me.
- 5:55SPEAKER_01: So I was going to a lot of house parties and connecting with people.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: As I said, I was meeting a lot of people at that stage in my life because I didn't know anyone.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: So it was really starting from scratch.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: And this world of tarot was super intriguing because what I found was that everyone was really open to read for me.
- 6:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, what about me?
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: What about me?
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: And so that kind of openness to this space where coming from a very scientific background and quite a religious upbringing, I had a lot of my own stigma with the cards and with getting messages and all this sort of thing.
- 6:28SPEAKER_01: But it started to normalize it for me and it started to make it really fun.
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I'd say that experience with my friend, then the world of diving into my intuition through using cards was what really spurred everything.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: And you hear that often.
- 6:44SPEAKER_00: It's that it's those of us that have that curiosity to just go and start to dip our toe in, ask questions, read by the tarot cards.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: Like that's this turning point that suddenly unleashes this magic world, right?
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: That is so different to something like speech pathology.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering if you struggled at all with that balance of what your logical mind was teaching you and with, you know, how you'd grown up, the religion, whatever, with the trusting suddenly from this deck of tarot, the messages that you were getting, did you take a long time to start to trust the magic?
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: Let's call it, or was it something that you really had to gradually get evidence and validation from?
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: What was that journey like?
- 7:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it really was a journey.
- 7:37SPEAKER_01: I think at the start, I was very much reliant on like reading the book, and uh, I thought there was, you know, a right way to be reading the cards or to be using the cards.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: So I was curious and I was learning, uh, but I was trying to find the way to do it.
- 7:52SPEAKER_01: So I was, yeah, heavily reliant on the book.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I'd say I also was learning by watching uh YouTube videos, like you know, the your your message for the week ahead had to have meaning for me.
- 8:04SPEAKER_01: So I was reading them, like I was interested in the message for me, but then I was really curious to see how other people were doing it and how they interpreted the cards.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: So it sort of started there, and it was much more in that logical analytical mind, and that you know, learning the patterns, learning the right way.
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: And then when I think I started to really trust my intuition, was A by just doing so many readings for so many other people.
- 8:26SPEAKER_01: And as I said, I traveled with them.
- 8:27SPEAKER_01: So my deck of cards has been around the entire world, and I'd be doing readings on the back of the bus, going through Egypt and Jordan, and everyone was like, do me at parties.
- 8:37SPEAKER_01: I started to really trust it because I was remembering the meanings of the cards and I would be just saying it, but people were connecting and they're like, Oh my gosh, that's exactly what's happening, or they'd be getting emotional.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: What I started to realize as well was that they're not great as a party trick because people it starts you start to connect and deep dive, and that's what I loved about it.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: So I started to transform the way I was using them because I was like, this isn't a tool necessarily just to be like, hey, look what I can do.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: And that was never really my intention, but I just realized that you can connect and deepen that connection really fast with something like the tarot.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: I'd say then where I started to completely trust my intuition is when the healing and the Reiki side opens in.
- 9:22SPEAKER_01: So the tarot was my entry point into just exploring my intuition and having fun with it, learning.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: But then once I um started to learn Reiki for myself, so I was introduced to this concept of healing and Reiki and was having it for myself, and I loved it.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: And then I just decided, you know what, I want to be able to do this for me.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: So I can do it when I'm starting to feel a bit shaky and part of my regulation and a tool in my regulation kit.
- 9:48SPEAKER_01: I went to learn from a lady over in the UK who I absolutely love.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: I'd never met her before, but I went to learn from her, and that was when I think the explosion of just self-trust came because I started to get way more messages from my intuition.
- 10:04SPEAKER_01: It started to become a lot more about feeling rather than thinking.
- 10:08SPEAKER_01: There was a way to learn, like a I suppose, a method to doing the Reiki, but it was very intuitive.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: You had to really rely on your intuition, and I'd be getting all sorts of strange things come through.
- 10:21SPEAKER_01: And then what happened was that at first I didn't want to say because it made no sense to me.
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: But I started to just say, Oh, this is really strange, or I don't know why I'm seeing this, and then I'd share, and it the connections were coming through, and that's where I got that evidence for me.
- 10:36SPEAKER_01: That was my evidence.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Because is there one particular story here that you remember that just stopped you in your tracks or them in their tracks?
- 10:45SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's a few.
- 10:46SPEAKER_01: Um, one that's coming to mind is when I was training and learning, I had to obviously practice, and so I would ask friends and family.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: I'm really blessed.
- 10:53SPEAKER_01: A lot of my friends and family are super open to this fence.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: So I have heaps of volunteers.
- 10:58SPEAKER_01: There was one friend.
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: This at this point, I was back in Australia.
- 11:01SPEAKER_01: I was learning it online because I wanted to stay with my teacher.
- 11:04SPEAKER_01: And this friend was in the UK.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: I did a distance healing for her, so she wasn't even in the room.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: And I remember seeing her in this, like, what do you call it?
- 11:15SPEAKER_01: Uh in this room of the house down the stairs, like a rumpus room.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: And I saw it so vividly, and I felt so much fear.
- 11:22SPEAKER_01: And I felt like steps coming down, like these heavy steps, um, footsteps coming down the stairs.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: And so I was relaying what was coming up, but I just remember that visual.
- 11:32SPEAKER_01: And I think at the time I was saying, you know, I had to send some healing back in time to that.
- 11:36SPEAKER_01: Now, at this point, I don't think I'd learn in healing, Reiki healing, you learn how to send healings forward and backwards in time.
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: I was already getting thrown in different timelines from the get-go.
- 11:47SPEAKER_01: So I think I just was being shown is to send some healing back to that moment.
- 11:51SPEAKER_01: So when I shared that, then her feedback was Steph, that was the house I used to live in.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: There was a rumpus room.
- 11:58SPEAKER_01: And she was describing what she was describing.
- 12:00SPEAKER_01: I remember seeing everything, the billards table, you know, all this like equipment.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: She said, the rumpus room is where I used to hide from my dad.
- 12:08SPEAKER_01: My dad used to come and like, you know, not nothing I don't think too bad, but just that's where she used to hide from him in particular when he was angry at her.
- 12:16SPEAKER_01: And it was just that was, I think, a real moment because I could see everything as she describes it.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: And I felt the same level of fear and just the steps.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: And I knew it was like a heavy foot, so like a man.
- 12:27SPEAKER_01: And I think that moment was where I just went, whoa, I can't be making this stuff up.
- 12:33SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: Wow, those experiences really start to uh give you the confidence to back yourself, down there.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: And now your journey is has kind of gradually gone onto all different things underneath the spiritual umbrella, and now you are really backing yourself.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: You're out of the markets working, um, you're doing sound healing.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: And how did you get to that point where?
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: Because that's another big leap of faith, really, to actually put yourself out there in front of more of an audience rather than one-on-one.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: How did that all happen?
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: And do you have advice for anyone else that is like, I want to do this?
- 13:09SPEAKER_00: What do I do?
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
- 13:11SPEAKER_01: Look, I'm really, again, I feel like I've been quite lucky in my life.
- 13:14SPEAKER_01: Uh it all just sort of happened.
- 13:16SPEAKER_01: I think I had been thinking at the point of doing market work, oh, I'd really love to do something like that, go to a market and do readings for people.
- 13:23SPEAKER_01: At this point, you know, I was more confident in my reading ability and doing healings, and I started sound healing at this point as well.
- 13:29SPEAKER_01: So I was much more backing myself in general, but I was still really afraid.
- 13:33SPEAKER_01: And the concept or the thought of going to a market where people are paying you money and reading for strangers was so intimidating.
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: So that was just a little thought that I never followed through with.
- 13:43SPEAKER_01: What happened was I was gifted from a second cousin, a whole bunch of stuff.
- 13:50SPEAKER_01: And essentially it was it was put forward to me like, hey, do you want some of these things I'm getting rid of?
- 13:54SPEAKER_01: And I thought, great, it was like imagining some crystals in them, a whole deck of cards.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: She ended up gifting me boxes upon boxes of brand new stock, unopened cards, multiple of the sand, books, crystals, all these things.
- 14:08SPEAKER_01: And I was like blown away.
- 14:10SPEAKER_01: I was very grateful because I knew how much this stuff was valued at.
- 14:13SPEAKER_01: And I think from her hand, she just wanted to get rid of it.
- 14:16SPEAKER_01: And I thought at that point, well, I've got to do something with this stuff.
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: I can't just have it all sitting in boxes in my spare room.
- 14:23SPEAKER_01: So that was the push.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, let's go to a market and let's go to a spiritual market where people actually know what this stuff is, not like the local one down the street, which I wasn't originally looking into.
- 14:33SPEAKER_01: And I was like, no one's gonna know what any of this is.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be like, I'll give you five dollars.
- 14:36SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no.
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: So that was the push.
- 14:39SPEAKER_01: And I was already making some of my sprays at this point, but I was like, all right, let's design a label and let's like kind of expand what I'm offering in terms of my range.
- 14:48SPEAKER_01: It was very much me behind the stock at first, and that's how I answered it.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: But I had such a good experience doing that the first time.
- 14:57SPEAKER_01: And what I loved was talking to people about like, what is this?
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: How do I use this?
- 15:01SPEAKER_01: What's the difference between Tarot and Oracle?
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: Uh, how do I get into this?
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have a deck, but I've stopped using it years ago.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: And all of those conversations really made me come alive.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: I loved being in that space, I loved having those discussions, I love talking about the tools that I love and use all the time too.
- 15:20SPEAKER_01: So that kind of excitement was what showed me, okay, hey, there's something in this, and you'd love doing this.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: So let's try another one.
- 15:28SPEAKER_01: And that became another one.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: And then it expanded into this hey, like, why don't you try offering readings?
- 15:34SPEAKER_01: And it the first time I actually tried to do, I actually started with healings because I was more confident with my healings.
- 15:41SPEAKER_01: Um, I actually had a really negative experience where there was a reader next to me and she just a lot of shade my way.
- 15:49SPEAKER_01: She was like, Oh, you're gonna do that here.
- 15:51SPEAKER_01: She really destroyed my confidence, and I didn't get a single healing that day.
- 15:55SPEAKER_01: But when I'm backed into a corner, sometimes I come out and I'm like, How dare you?
- 16:01SPEAKER_01: So it actually was a good experience because I thought, all right, well, if I'm not gonna do healings, I'm gonna just do readings then.
- 16:07SPEAKER_01: Like, stuff you, I'll show you.
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: I can do this.
- 16:09SPEAKER_01: So it gave me a bit of a kick up the backside.
- 16:12SPEAKER_01: The next market I did, I offered readings and I was completely booked the entire day.
- 16:17SPEAKER_01: And I was in a market with psychics and mediums who had been you, they were all older than me, they'd been doing this for eons, and so there were so many insecurities.
- 16:26SPEAKER_01: But what I realized is that you go to these markets if you do go and you end up connecting just with someone energetically.
- 16:33SPEAKER_01: And so I think that's what would happen.
- 16:34SPEAKER_01: People would see me, they'd get a feel, and they'd go, yeah, I'd want to go with you.
- 16:37SPEAKER_01: And everyone kind of is having that happen to them.
- 16:40SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that is sort of what really helped me back myself even more, was that I then thought, hey, I can do this, and people were crying and people were connecting, and people were loving it.
- 16:52SPEAKER_01: And not that you need that validation, but it is nice when you're starting just to see how people are responding to you.
- 16:58SPEAKER_01: And I think that is what yeah, helped me just okay, I can do this, and I love being in that space.
- 17:03SPEAKER_01: I've always loved a market environment.
- 17:06SPEAKER_01: I then started doing festivals because I love a festival, and I thought, how cool would it be to be at a festival doing this?
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: And I did that this year, and that was just the best experience of my life.
- 17:16SPEAKER_01: So just keep following, keep following the excitement.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: That's always been my thing.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: I feel like for anyone listening as well, the key here is that the universe has just gifted you all of this stuff to make this happen.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: I think that looking back there, there's the breadcrumb trail, suddenly, you know, realistically, who the hell ever gets donated all of those types of products, right?
- 17:37SPEAKER_00: The universe is like dragging you to the market pretty much, telling you, no, don't do healings, do tarot or do oracle readings.
- 17:44SPEAKER_00: And I love that because the minute that you surrender and put your hands up and allow maybe some other greater energy to guide you in the right direction, it becomes easy, doesn't it?
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and in terms of advice, I think there were definitely moments where I could have given up because it was a lot of effort to even get into the market world, I had to create all this stuff.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: And then with that experience where the lady just destroyed my confidence, there were moments where I could have been like, okay, fine, this is not for me and walked away.
- 18:10SPEAKER_01: What I kept coming back to, and this is what I'd recommend as a piece of advice, is if it still excites you, like the idea of doing that thing, if it still lights a fire in you and brings this sense of joy and excitement, that for me is always keep going, keep going.
- 18:26SPEAKER_01: There's something in this for you.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: So I say, yeah, if people have that vision or that dream, or if it lights them up, then that is your intuition going, hell yes.
- 18:35SPEAKER_01: Against all odds, you will find a way.
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: You've definitely delivered a sign to a few listeners today, Steph.
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: If you needed to hear that, there you go.
- 18:43SPEAKER_00: That is your sign to just go for it.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: Um, now, Stev, I am lucky enough to know that you have a really big piece of news, and I think it's like the ultimate uh piece of news that shows how well you back yourself.
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: Can you share what this news is and tell us a little bit about what backing yourself means to you today?
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sure.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: So I am now at the point where I'm going to resign from my speech pathology work, which was my stability, my foundation, everything that is predictable and safe.
- 19:18SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I made that decision purely based on my intuition.
- 19:23SPEAKER_01: More or less, uh, yeah.
- 19:24SPEAKER_01: It's not that I don't love the work.
- 19:26SPEAKER_01: I still love connecting with children.
- 19:28SPEAKER_01: There's something in um working with children that I think is definitely part of who I am and will always be.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: But I just can't ignore this intuitive intuitive pull in a different direction now.
- 19:39SPEAKER_01: And it's been scary because I don't know what's next.
- 19:43SPEAKER_01: And I was waiting.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: My logical mind was telling me, wait, wait, wait, wait until you have something lined up before you make that call, before you enter this world in instability with no regular income.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: And I just had to give myself that that end date because I was I was making myself miserable.
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to wake up and go.
- 20:02SPEAKER_01: And I'm not that person.
- 20:04SPEAKER_01: So I just yeah, had a firm chat with myself and finally really backed my my intuitive inner knowing and said, okay, we'll do this.
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: And so that's where I'm at.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: I'm going to resign.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: And that's absolutely crazy.
- 20:19SPEAKER_00: And I think the universe will provide you that next step, obviously.
- 20:22SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited to see what happens next for you.
- 20:25SPEAKER_00: I know that, yeah, there'll be also people sat on the edge of that taking that leap of faith as well, where they're feeling, I guess, losing alignment from their current job and suddenly being pulled into the the realm of spirituality and sound healing or tarot or whatever it may be.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: Um, have you got one piece of my advice that drops in intuitively now that you could deliver to that person on taking the leap?
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: Sure.
- 20:52SPEAKER_01: I look, I think it's always going to be scary.
- 20:56SPEAKER_01: And even if you have a sense of a plan of what comes next, we never really know.
- 20:59SPEAKER_01: We're never guaranteed.
- 21:00SPEAKER_01: So there's always that fear.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: But the visual or the message that I've been holding on to is that the universe can't fill hands that are already full.
- 21:10SPEAKER_01: You have to let go and you have to see what lands.
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm getting emotional now, so there's something in that.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Um, and and trying to hold on, I think, is what prevents us from taking the next step.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: So I don't have any idea of where I'm going next, and I'd love to know, but just me making this step is saying, hey, I commit to me, and I'm just gonna see.
- 21:32SPEAKER_01: Show me how good it gets.
- 21:34SPEAKER_00: Hell yes.
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, I love that.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Steph.
- 21:38SPEAKER_00: That has been such an interesting conversation.
- 21:41SPEAKER_00: For anyone listening, go to the show notes and check uh Steph's website out.
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: I know that she's got loads to offer, and I think Steph's a really, really great example of just going for it.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: Back yourself, don't hold back.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: We're on this world.
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say we're in this world once, but I don't believe that at all.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: We've probably got a lot of lifetimes to live.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: But realistically, you've got a decision and you've got a choice, and you can move forward and head towards the excitement, like Steph said, rather than just living in the mundane.
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: So well done, Steph.
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here today and sharing your story.
- 22:18SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: It's such an honor.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'll definitely be watching from the sidelines and following you on social media.
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: To all the listeners, thank you for being here.
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: What another wonderful story to listen to.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: And as you know, it is Back Yourself Week.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: So we have five incredible stories this week just to support you wherever you are at in your journey, whether you are a spiritual practitioner or not, you may just receive that little bit of advice unnudged from the universe to back yourself.
- 22:47SPEAKER_00: So do it.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: If you're not already following the show, click that link right now because we have lots of amazing stories to come.
- 22:54SPEAKER_00: So until tomorrow's story, good luck.
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: Stay curious, as Steph said, and keep backing yourself.
- 23:00SPEAKER_00: Thank you.