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- 0:00Speaker 1: Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics,
- 0:04Speaker 1: and space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been
- 0:07Speaker 1: known to learn about astronomical phenomenon, the scientific method, and
- 0:10Speaker 1: expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism and uranus. Listen,
- 0:15Speaker 1: that's your own risk.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 0:22Speaker 3: When made of stars, made them stars mad sizes. When
- 0:29Speaker 3: made of stars, you could be from high they would
- 0:36Speaker 3: New Mexicomus, where all stars?
- 0:43Speaker 4: When we are made of stars. I'm Wes Carol, joined
- 0:57Speaker 4: by my good friend doctor Seawan Cruisin from i'm a
- 1:00Speaker 4: State University's Coca Cola Space Signed Center Morning Sean.
- 1:03Speaker 2: M morn Wes could to be here again today.
- 1:05Speaker 4: We have a lot of black hole content today. I
- 1:08Speaker 4: don't know how else to say it. Supermassive black holes,
- 1:10Speaker 4: black holes. And then kind of a cool story a
- 1:13Speaker 4: little bit later in the show, we'll talk about radio
- 1:17Speaker 4: signals from deep space, possible reasons for that. I know
- 1:20Speaker 4: some possible reasons for that. It's called aliens. But that
- 1:25Speaker 4: may not be what we're going to talk about today necessarily.
- 1:27Speaker 4: So let's start with a story about and this is
- 1:32Speaker 4: from space dot Com about Stark's massive store explosions that
- 1:38Speaker 4: could have had a significant impact on Earth in the past.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the kinds of giant exploding stars that
- 1:46Speaker 2: can lead to garden variety black holes, not necessarily super
- 1:51Speaker 2: massive black holes. But when you when you start parsing
- 1:54Speaker 2: out like more normal black holes versus less normal black holes,
- 1:59Speaker 2: it's already you're already dangerous territory because that black hole
- 2:02Speaker 2: is a weird thing, whether it's garden variety or super massive,
- 2:05Speaker 2: either one.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And it's weird to even reference them as sort of
- 2:08Speaker 4: a garden variety black hole, because I mean, what does
- 2:11Speaker 4: that even mean? Right?
- 2:13Speaker 2: Yeah, just what it means when you're talking to an astronomer,
- 2:17Speaker 2: which is already an unusual event right there, right right,
- 2:21Speaker 2: You've got to consider your life choices when you're, you know,
- 2:23Speaker 2: at a party and you're chatting with an astrophysicist, like,
- 2:26Speaker 2: how did I end up here? All right? Well, so
- 2:29Speaker 2: what it is is this, by the way, story on
- 2:31Speaker 2: space dot com. The question imposed is did massive star explosions,
- 2:36Speaker 2: supernov explosions, did they trigger two mass extinctions that we
- 2:42Speaker 2: find in the geological record on Earth? Could giant exploding
- 2:48Speaker 2: stars that were near enough to the Earth have caused
- 2:52Speaker 2: the circumstances necessary for most of the life on Earth
- 2:58Speaker 2: to be wiped out. So that's where we're going with
- 3:01Speaker 2: the story. Again. It's on space dot Com and there's
- 3:05Speaker 2: new research that says, why, yes, they could have if
- 3:10Speaker 2: those supernova occurred within a certain distance a certain radius
- 3:15Speaker 2: of the Earth, they could have actually stripped our planet's
- 3:19Speaker 2: atmosphere of its protective ozone layer. So why is ozone important? Well,
- 3:25Speaker 2: because that ozone layer. The reason we don't want holes
- 3:27Speaker 2: in our ozone layer, by the way, is because that
- 3:30Speaker 2: ozone layer protects us from deadly ultraviolet radiation from the sun.
- 3:36Speaker 2: So if we have an ozone layer, it's a good thing.
- 3:41Speaker 4: Got it?
- 3:41Speaker 2: Ozone?
- 3:42Speaker 4: Good check?
- 3:43Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, ozone in the right place is good. Ozone
- 3:47Speaker 2: coming out of your car's tailpipe not as good as
- 3:49Speaker 2: it could be. Ozone at the top of the atmosphere
- 3:53Speaker 2: definitely good because it acts as a UV shield, and
- 3:57Speaker 2: without we already get enough ultraviolet radiation. Like if you
- 4:00Speaker 2: go spend a long day at the beach and you
- 4:03Speaker 2: forgot to put on your sunscreen, you're gonna find out
- 4:05Speaker 2: that we get plenty of ultraviolet already. It's kind of
- 4:09Speaker 2: the longer wavelength ultraviolet that mostly gets through. It's the
- 4:12Speaker 2: less damaging but still damaging kind. And there's enough of
- 4:16Speaker 2: that short ultra violet, short wavelength ultra violet that gets
- 4:19Speaker 2: through as well. We always want to put something on
- 4:21Speaker 2: our skin that's going to protect ourselves when we go
- 4:23Speaker 2: out there. Okay, well, imagine the primary shield, which is
- 4:28Speaker 2: the ozone layer, just wasn't even there at all. Now,
- 4:31Speaker 2: instead of a sun burn, you would get a sun fry, yeah,
- 4:36Speaker 2: which is not worth right. Yeah, yeah, that sounds bad,
- 4:39Speaker 2: by the way.
- 4:40Speaker 4: Just hearing the words ozone layer, it took me back,
- 4:43Speaker 4: like I suddenly was, you know, like ten years old
- 4:46Speaker 4: in school in like fourth or fifth grade, with my
- 4:49Speaker 4: call to action to go home and throw away all
- 4:51Speaker 4: the cans of aerosol hair spray. Like I feel like
- 4:54Speaker 4: I'm a call to action that we were given back then.
- 4:57Speaker 4: So I'm just I'm having a flashback. Man, I'm tripping.
- 5:00Speaker 2: And it's a good thing you did that, because now
- 5:03Speaker 2: we still have an ozone.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Layer, that's right, we do, thankfully.
- 5:08Speaker 2: And research is telling us that if we didn't have
- 5:10Speaker 2: that ozone layer, it would be bad. We'd be fried.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Yeah, So we have an understanding of the importance of
- 5:16Speaker 4: that ozone layer.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, all right. So, so to get back to
- 5:21Speaker 2: the subject, can a nearby supernova strip the planet's ozone layer?
- 5:26Speaker 2: And in fact, not only can it, but has it
- 5:28Speaker 2: done that in the past. Well, there's a new study
- 5:31Speaker 2: that came out. One of the co authors of the
- 5:34Speaker 2: study is Nick Wright, an astrophysicist professor at Keele University
- 5:39Speaker 2: in England. Again story on space dot com. The quote
- 5:43Speaker 2: from Nick Wright is this, a slightly more distant supernova
- 5:47Speaker 2: could still cause considerable loss of life here on Earth.
- 5:52Speaker 2: But at this distance, which he means about sixty light years,
- 5:56Speaker 2: it would be terrifying. Now again these are the words
- 5:59Speaker 2: of Nick Right, co author of the study. Why does
- 6:02Speaker 2: he mean it would be terrifying, Well, because it could
- 6:06Speaker 2: remove that ozone layer, and then the Earth would be
- 6:09Speaker 2: unprotected from a large influx of short wavelength ultraviolet light
- 6:14Speaker 2: from the Sun, thereby being able to damage or even
- 6:18Speaker 2: destroy most of the life on the planet. Right, all right,
- 6:22Speaker 2: So it turns out that that's not what this team
- 6:25Speaker 2: set out to study. They were actually setting out to
- 6:29Speaker 2: study what they call luminas stars. In other words, the
- 6:31Speaker 2: biggest and brightest of the stars and what their distribution
- 6:35Speaker 2: is around our galaxy and throughout the universe. And so
- 6:39Speaker 2: they were looking at about twenty four thousand of these
- 6:42Speaker 2: luminous stars from a survey called the Gaya survey. That's
- 6:46Speaker 2: Guya the satellite, not a nickname for the Earth, all right,
- 6:49Speaker 2: So Guya the satellite. And so they were looking in
- 6:52Speaker 2: this sensus of stars for these ultra luminos stars, and
- 6:56Speaker 2: what they found were all kinds of evidences of supernova
- 7:00Speaker 2: explosions that took place, some of them in the near
- 7:05Speaker 2: proximity to Earth, and some of them which corresponded in
- 7:11Speaker 2: time with mass extinction events in the geological record here
- 7:17Speaker 2: on the Earth. Which that's what's unusual, right, that's the
- 7:20Speaker 2: interesting thing. So they didn't mean to set out down
- 7:23Speaker 2: this road. It's just that happenstance and taking a careful
- 7:26Speaker 2: look at the data forced them into this conclusion that hey,
- 7:30Speaker 2: some of these big supernova explosions which we now see
- 7:34Speaker 2: in this survey that took place, they took place in
- 7:37Speaker 2: a way that the radiation wave would have arrived at
- 7:41Speaker 2: the Earth corresponding to a couple of mass extinction events,
- 7:45Speaker 2: which were they well, the first one was the Late
- 7:47Speaker 2: Devonian period was a series of mass extinction events that
- 7:51Speaker 2: occurred about three hundred and seventy two million years ago,
- 7:55Speaker 2: And the other one was the Ordovisian mass extinction event,
- 7:58Speaker 2: which is a terrible massive extinction event that took place
- 8:01Speaker 2: four hundred and forty five million years ago and was
- 8:05Speaker 2: what they called one of the first of the big
- 8:07Speaker 2: five mass extinctions that we find in our geological record.
- 8:11Speaker 2: During the Ordavsian event, approximately seventy five percent of all
- 8:15Speaker 2: species on the Earth, particularly in the types of fish
- 8:20Speaker 2: found in ancient seasoned lakes, were wiped out. So this
- 8:24Speaker 2: is this is really a bad, you know, a bad
- 8:28Speaker 2: event in Earth's history. There are all kinds of potential
- 8:31Speaker 2: explanations with geological sources, like something that happened either environmentally
- 8:37Speaker 2: or geologically here on the Earth. But now there's a
- 8:40Speaker 2: possibility that it could have been a nearby supernova. So
- 8:44Speaker 2: it turns out that this team of astronomers has actually
- 8:48Speaker 2: fairly specific events that they have identified in their survey
- 8:53Speaker 2: of nearby luminos stars that shows the very good correlation
- 8:59Speaker 2: of a couple of nearby supernova with these two mass extinctions,
- 9:03Speaker 2: and also shows from a theoretical standpoint that had these
- 9:09Speaker 2: supernova taken place within that sixty light year radius, that
- 9:12Speaker 2: they could have indeed removed the ozone layer. So now
- 9:16Speaker 2: from this study, two pieces of evidence suggesting very strongly
- 9:20Speaker 2: that perhaps a couple of the worst events wiping out
- 9:25Speaker 2: life on Earth for a large portion of life on Earth,
- 9:29Speaker 2: are correlated to nearby supernova explosions. Interesting story read about
- 9:33Speaker 2: it on space dot com.
- 9:35Speaker 4: Universe Today dot Com has a story about how actively
- 9:39Speaker 4: feeding supermassive black holes could be good for life, which
- 9:43Speaker 4: doesn't sound sounding. It makes sense when you consider the
- 9:47Speaker 4: amount of radiation that's put out, So does that mean
- 9:50Speaker 4: it could be good for life like an animal like
- 9:52Speaker 4: the platypus That doesn't really have an explanation for it,
- 9:55Speaker 4: just maybe some radiation coming from nearby.
- 9:58Speaker 2: I think platypuses like supermassive black holes. Probably. This is
- 10:01Speaker 2: just there's no science behind this whatsoever. It's just my
- 10:04Speaker 2: personal opinion. But I've talked to a couple of them,
- 10:06Speaker 2: and they seem to be fans, particularly of the song
- 10:09Speaker 2: super massive black Hole.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Nice you know. Yeah, So anyway, platopus and is it
- 10:15Speaker 4: Parry in that cartoon anyway?
- 10:18Speaker 2: Pry Harry the Platypus. Yea, yeah, I remember that guy.
- 10:24Speaker 2: So there's that, all right, So all right, So we
- 10:26Speaker 2: just talked about an event that can create what we
- 10:29Speaker 2: referred to as a garden variety black hole, or in
- 10:32Speaker 2: other words, a stellar mass black hole. Now we're talking
- 10:35Speaker 2: about super massive black holes, which only seem to form
- 10:39Speaker 2: at the centers of galaxies. So these super massive black
- 10:44Speaker 2: holes can have the mass of over a million suns
- 10:46Speaker 2: at times. And these are true monsters, and as we
- 10:52Speaker 2: look back over time, we can find them far away
- 10:56Speaker 2: from the Earth, which is also looking back in history
- 10:59Speaker 2: during a time where these super massive black holes were well,
- 11:02Speaker 2: they were eating. They were feeding because it was still
- 11:06Speaker 2: enough material right around them that there was plenty of
- 11:08Speaker 2: material for them to feed on. And so as they
- 11:11Speaker 2: drew that material in, they also belched out a very
- 11:16Speaker 2: copious amount of deadly radiation. During this era of time,
- 11:21Speaker 2: when a super massive black hole is feeding, we have
- 11:23Speaker 2: a nickname for that. We call them active galactic nuclei.
- 11:27Speaker 2: It's actually more than a nickname, it's an astrophysical designation,
- 11:31Speaker 2: So AGNs. Active galactic nuclei are what astronomers refer to
- 11:36Speaker 2: as super massive black holes. Eating up all the neighborhood
- 11:39Speaker 2: around them and then belching out large amounts of radioactive materials.
- 11:43Speaker 2: So there you go, all right, So that sounds bad,
- 11:47Speaker 2: Like I'm in imagine if you were, imagine you were
- 11:50Speaker 2: living on a planet that was around a star system
- 11:53Speaker 2: that was very near the super massive black hole, which
- 11:56Speaker 2: was both eating everything around it and belching out large
- 11:59Speaker 2: amounts of radiation. That does not sound like a nice neighborhood.
- 12:03Speaker 4: It doesn't sound good at all unless you're a platypus.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Maybe, but you know, as far as I know, platypuses
- 12:10Speaker 2: might be completely you know, immune to radiation effects. I
- 12:14Speaker 2: don't think that's true.
- 12:15Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I mean I can't I've heard.
- 12:17Speaker 2: I'm not going to do any experiments to find out.
- 12:19Speaker 4: By the way, I mean, when you start growing duck
- 12:21Speaker 4: bills in places there probably shouldn't be duck bills, I mean,
- 12:23Speaker 4: I think they probably have benefited from it, That's all
- 12:25Speaker 4: I'm saying.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Could be that Australia was exposed to I don't know.
- 12:29Speaker 4: I don't know platopus ologist is all I'm saying.
- 12:32Speaker 2: And neither am I and you know, and and you know,
- 12:36Speaker 2: God bless you if you chose that field by the
- 12:38Speaker 2: way of research.
- 12:39Speaker 4: Watched a lot of urb with my boys. But that's
- 12:42Speaker 4: about the extent with Perry Perry. But that's that's all
- 12:45Speaker 4: I got.
- 12:47Speaker 2: So, so, whether or not platypuses could be more copious
- 12:53Speaker 2: because of super massive black holes is actually the question. Yes,
- 12:58Speaker 2: this article in Universe today dot com. You can check
- 13:02Speaker 2: out this article on universitydy dot com. Could supermassive black
- 13:07Speaker 2: holes actually be good for life? Beneficial to planets that
- 13:14Speaker 2: might be forming life? Hmm, all right, interesting question, Let's
- 13:18Speaker 2: go down the chain of logic. Researchers at Dartmouth College
- 13:21Speaker 2: and the University of Exeter have simulated the effects of
- 13:25Speaker 2: radiation from one of these active galactic nuclei on worlds
- 13:30Speaker 2: that might have formed somewhat nearby to a supermassive black hole.
- 13:35Speaker 2: And here's what they have found. They've found this, if
- 13:40Speaker 2: life got a foothold before the most violent period of
- 13:48Speaker 2: the active galactic nuclei taking place, before this active glactic
- 13:53Speaker 2: nuclei had a chance to really radiate its surrounding neighborhood.
- 13:57Speaker 2: If life got a foothold, that mean that that life
- 14:01Speaker 2: could have produced oxygen in the atmosphere of this hypothetical
- 14:07Speaker 2: alien world. And if that oxygen was already in the atmosphere,
- 14:13Speaker 2: then when the bombardment of radiation, particularly ultraviolet radiation, came
- 14:17Speaker 2: in from this active galactic nuclei, it could have actually
- 14:24Speaker 2: generated ozone in the atmosphere of that alien planet. All Right, friends,
- 14:31Speaker 2: let's remember why that's a good thing, because from the
- 14:34Speaker 2: previous story, ozone is a layer of the atmosphere that
- 14:39Speaker 2: protects us from ultraviolet. Wait a minute, the very ultraviolet
- 14:45Speaker 2: that we need protection from could be generated by the
- 14:48Speaker 2: ultraviolet itself if you have oxygen in the atmosphere. Yes,
- 14:53Speaker 2: says Dartmouth College and University of Exeter researchers. And in fact,
- 14:59Speaker 2: that radiation may have been provided by supermassive black holes
- 15:04Speaker 2: in galaxies. All right. Kendall Sippy is the lead author
- 15:07Speaker 2: of the study. Kendall has a quote says this, once
- 15:11Speaker 2: life exists and has oxygenated to the atmosphere, the radiation
- 15:15Speaker 2: becomes less devastating and possibly even a good thing. Once
- 15:20Speaker 2: that bridge is crossed, the planet becomes more resilient to
- 15:23Speaker 2: ultra violet radiation and protected from the potential extinction effects unquote.
- 15:31Speaker 2: So what the what those planets needed? In the previous
- 15:33Speaker 2: story like Earth was just more ozone. Wow, isn't that interesting?
- 15:40Speaker 2: By the way, additional health effects for a planet that
- 15:43Speaker 2: might be bombarded by UV radiation from a supermassive black hole.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Thatse that UV radiation can also produce vitamin D in
- 15:51Speaker 2: the atmosphere, and it could boost the complex molecules necessary
- 15:58Speaker 2: to block the v from affecting the life. So high
- 16:03Speaker 2: energy u V light reacts with oxygen in the atmosphere,
- 16:08Speaker 2: apparently in a beneficial way that some planets might actually
- 16:13Speaker 2: need in order to develop life in the first place.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Great story. Check it out on Universe today dot com.
- 16:21Speaker 4: Coming up after a quick break, What do you know?
- 16:25Speaker 4: Another supermassive black hole story. We'll talk about that next.
- 16:46Speaker 4: All right, So we've talked about the bad stuff and
- 16:49Speaker 4: then with the concerning black holes and supernovas and things,
- 16:51Speaker 4: and then we've talked about the good positive stuff with
- 16:55Speaker 4: potential positive stuff. When it comes to supermassive black holes,
- 16:58Speaker 4: let's talk about one that's too far away one of
- 17:01Speaker 4: our nearby neighbors.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Could there be a super massive black hole right in
- 17:06Speaker 2: our own neighborhood? Well, wait a minute, we already know
- 17:08Speaker 2: there is one in the center of our own milky Way.
- 17:13Speaker 2: But before I tell you the story, friends, I want
- 17:15Speaker 2: to just take a pause for a moment, and I
- 17:17Speaker 2: think you should just in another window on your computer
- 17:20Speaker 2: as you're listening to this podcast, pull up the band
- 17:24Speaker 2: Muse and the song super Massive Black Hole and just
- 17:27Speaker 2: kind of have it playing in the background. We would
- 17:28Speaker 2: have done that for you on the radio, you know,
- 17:31Speaker 2: years ago, when Wes and I were doing a radio show.
- 17:33Speaker 2: But that's when we had you know, rights and licensing
- 17:35Speaker 2: and there's it's sticky points, right, So because we can't
- 17:38Speaker 2: do it ourselves, we're gonna just recommend that you do it.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Just have it playing softly, super Massive black Hole in
- 17:44Speaker 2: the background through the remainder of this podcast. That's what
- 17:46Speaker 2: I want.
- 17:47Speaker 4: We're immediately following, you know, you finish and just fire
- 17:50Speaker 4: it up, and that'd be a good way to close
- 17:52Speaker 4: us out, you know.
- 17:53Speaker 2: It's it's a good way to just bring your mind
- 17:55Speaker 2: in the right state to think about this story.
- 17:58Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you're you're listening on Spotify. It would
- 18:01Speaker 4: be an easy transition over to listen to music that's easy.
- 18:05Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Muse would appreciate it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure,
- 18:08Speaker 2: it's going to put you in the right frame of
- 18:09Speaker 2: mind for this story.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
- 18:12Speaker 2: The black hole that's super massive that lives at the
- 18:17Speaker 2: center of the Milky Way has a nickname or a
- 18:20Speaker 2: name or an astronomical designation. It's called Sagittarius A. And
- 18:25Speaker 2: the reason it's called Sagittarius A is because when you
- 18:28Speaker 2: go out and look at the nighttime sky in the
- 18:30Speaker 2: direction of the constellation Sagittarius, you're looking in the direction
- 18:35Speaker 2: toward the center of our own Milky Way. You may
- 18:37Speaker 2: not realize it, but that's where that's where the middle
- 18:39Speaker 2: of the pinwheel is, and in the middle of the
- 18:41Speaker 2: pinwheel is a super massive black hole. When radio astronomers
- 18:46Speaker 2: first realize, golly, there are radio signals coming from objects
- 18:50Speaker 2: in space, they began to map out all of these
- 18:53Speaker 2: radio signals. And the very first one, because it was
- 18:58Speaker 2: the most energy I had a source in the constellation
- 19:02Speaker 2: of Sagittarius, they called it A. The second one they
- 19:07Speaker 2: called B. You see how this is going to go.
- 19:09Speaker 2: It's cataloging, right. Sagittarius A was so strong and easy
- 19:14Speaker 2: to detect because it's the super massive black hole at
- 19:18Speaker 2: the center of the Milky Way. Before we even knew
- 19:21Speaker 2: there were super massive black holes at the centers of galaxies. Wow,
- 19:25Speaker 2: cool stuff, all right, So that super massive black hole
- 19:29Speaker 2: is actually, you know, it's pretty far away because it's
- 19:32Speaker 2: fifty thousand light years from the center of the galaxy
- 19:37Speaker 2: out to the edge. Right then we're about two thirds
- 19:39Speaker 2: of the way out, so it's now that's thirty k
- 19:42Speaker 2: you know, thirty thousand light years all right. So so
- 19:45Speaker 2: there's another nearby galaxy that is it's kind of a
- 19:49Speaker 2: little train wreck. It's not very big, it doesn't have
- 19:53Speaker 2: any really super defined structure. We call it in a
- 19:57Speaker 2: regular galaxy, and we nicknamed it after that guy Magellan
- 20:01Speaker 2: because he was the first euro guy in a ship
- 20:04Speaker 2: to look at this guy and go, what's that faint
- 20:06Speaker 2: fuzzy thing? All right, So it's called the Large Magellanic Cloud,
- 20:11Speaker 2: the LMC. Just know that it is a dwarf irregular
- 20:16Speaker 2: galaxy that's basically in orbit about the Milky Way and
- 20:20Speaker 2: can have gravitational interactions with the Milky Way itself. All right.
- 20:24Speaker 2: So there's a group of astronomers from the Harvard Smithsonian
- 20:27Speaker 2: Center for Astrophysics that has recognized an effect that seems
- 20:34Speaker 2: to be coming from the large Magellanic Cloud on a
- 20:37Speaker 2: group of galaxies in our own Milky Way. Something has
- 20:42Speaker 2: given these stars in the Milky Way a powerful kick,
- 20:47Speaker 2: a giant acceleration, And now these stars seem to be
- 20:51Speaker 2: moving with what astronomers call hypervelocity. They're moving with speeds
- 20:58Speaker 2: up to two point two million miles per hour relative
- 21:02Speaker 2: to all the other stars around them, which means what happened,
- 21:07Speaker 2: what gave these stars a giant shove? Well, the group
- 21:14Speaker 2: from CFA Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, when examining the
- 21:18Speaker 2: data from again the Guy A telescope and a story
- 21:21Speaker 2: about Guy earlier, so they were able to track these
- 21:26Speaker 2: stars back to an effect point from a certain location,
- 21:31Speaker 2: and that was a near encounter with the large Magelantic Cloud. Now,
- 21:36Speaker 2: the cloud itself doesn't have enough concentrated mass to really
- 21:40Speaker 2: generate these kinds of accelerations in stars in the Milky Way.
- 21:43Speaker 2: But if that little tiny galaxy happened to be harboring
- 21:47Speaker 2: a super massive black hole, the super massive black hole
- 21:52Speaker 2: could have given these stars hypervelocity. And looks like that's
- 21:56Speaker 2: exactly what did happen. And in fact, these dramas from
- 22:00Speaker 2: CFA were actually able to even use the accelerations of
- 22:03Speaker 2: these stars to project a possible mass for the black
- 22:06Speaker 2: hole in the LMC of six hundred thousand solar masses.
- 22:11Speaker 2: So this is a pretty good sized black hole. Now,
- 22:15Speaker 2: there have been other pieces of evidence for a potential
- 22:19Speaker 2: supermassive black hole in the Large Magelanic Cloud, but this
- 22:23Speaker 2: seems to be the most solid piece of evidence to
- 22:27Speaker 2: date suggesting that there's a supermassive black hole in the LMC.
- 22:33Speaker 2: One of the important points, and it's just important to
- 22:35Speaker 2: point out, is kind of just a context for the story,
- 22:38Speaker 2: which is typically we expect supermassive black holes to be
- 22:43Speaker 2: found in the center of large galaxies and particularly spiral
- 22:47Speaker 2: galaxies like the Milky Way. It is far less common
- 22:52Speaker 2: for us to find evidence of a supermassive black hole
- 22:55Speaker 2: in a small, irregular dwarf galaxy like the Large Magelantic Cloud,
- 23:00Speaker 2: which again that's what makes the story unusual. Check out
- 23:03Speaker 2: the story on astronomy dot com. Friends great story about
- 23:08Speaker 2: possible big black hole in the l MC.
- 23:11Speaker 4: More made of stars right after this. I tease this
- 23:35Speaker 4: story at the beginning, and this is as Astronomer's a
- 23:40Speaker 4: new perspective on possibly where a radio signal could be
- 23:44Speaker 4: coming from a repeating signal, and I'm a little disappointed
- 23:47Speaker 4: because they're not already suiting up Jodie Foster.
- 23:52Speaker 2: So so Wes Kids. But but really, there have been many,
- 23:58Speaker 2: many times in the hist of radio astronomy where the
- 24:03Speaker 2: astronomers hearing these signals basically didn't have a ready explanation
- 24:09Speaker 2: for what they were detecting at hand other than aliens.
- 24:12Speaker 2: And so there have been many times where very serious
- 24:17Speaker 2: and legitimate astronomers have said, I don't know what this
- 24:20Speaker 2: could be except, you know, little green men. And there
- 24:24Speaker 2: have actually been handwritten notes next to radio signal data
- 24:29Speaker 2: with the term LGM written next to it, which stands
- 24:33Speaker 2: for little Green Men, because they just didn't have a ready,
- 24:37Speaker 2: readily available physical explanation for what they're seeing. We still
- 24:43Speaker 2: know this is a bit true if you listen to
- 24:45Speaker 2: the show regularly. We like ferbies. We still know this
- 24:48Speaker 2: is a bit true for fast radio bursts, which are
- 24:50Speaker 2: shortcuted as a ferbie.
- 24:54Speaker 4: And I mean, if you're someone who wants to believe
- 24:59Speaker 4: right to go to go to the X Files, or
- 25:01Speaker 4: you know, you go to the movie Contact, which I
- 25:04Speaker 4: was referencing about Jodie Foster. I mean it's easy to
- 25:08Speaker 4: kind of let the science fiction side of it roll in,
- 25:10Speaker 4: but astronomers actually have a better I mean not as
- 25:15Speaker 4: much fun, but a better explanation.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Well, in recent episodes, go back a couple episodes, we've
- 25:21Speaker 2: talked about some more modern explanation for fast radio bursts.
- 25:26Speaker 2: But the object we're going to talk about right now
- 25:28Speaker 2: is a slow radio burst.
- 25:31Speaker 4: Well, and tell me, let me just say this too.
- 25:33Speaker 4: Also to the defense of the people who want it
- 25:35Speaker 4: to be something else, is I mean, we've sent radio
- 25:39Speaker 4: signals into space from Earth, right, so I mean you
- 25:43Speaker 4: could see where if it seems like a way to
- 25:46Speaker 4: actually communicate send some sort of message. Anyway, just last.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Streamest, we were discussing that one of the most profound
- 25:54Speaker 2: questions to humanity is whether or not we're alone in
- 25:57Speaker 2: this universe as the only life out there right, correct, So,
- 26:01Speaker 2: so that is really one of the big questions. So
- 26:03Speaker 2: when we see something that's so mysterious and we don't
- 26:07Speaker 2: appear to have any reasonable physical explanation for it, it's
- 26:13Speaker 2: it's not I mean, it's not the worst thing for
- 26:15Speaker 2: us to kind of ponder and go, could this be
- 26:18Speaker 2: some signal generated by an intelligence that is trying to
- 26:22Speaker 2: signal us to let us know that they're there. Now,
- 26:25Speaker 2: Stephen Hawking said that that was a very bad idea.
- 26:28Speaker 2: We shouldn't do that. Let's not send out signals saying hey,
- 26:31Speaker 2: we're here, because they might actually show up. And if
- 26:33Speaker 2: you've ever had the in laws come and stay, you
- 26:35Speaker 2: know that this is not the best idea. So anyway, Yeah,
- 26:38Speaker 2: so at.
- 26:38Speaker 4: The very least, maybe the hey we're here, then whoever
- 26:41Speaker 4: receives it may go are you edible?
- 26:44Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean which we are?
- 26:46Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 26:46Speaker 2: We are some species we are, No question.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Depends on you know, who's receiving the signal. I suppose.
- 26:52Speaker 4: But if they're little green men, maybe we're a giant feast.
- 26:59Speaker 2: It's because of the acids. I don't know, something like
- 27:01Speaker 2: that anyway. All right, So a story on space dot
- 27:05Speaker 2: com is talking about another signal that's mysterious that they
- 27:10Speaker 2: weren't necessarily thinking was life. But the usual explanations for
- 27:16Speaker 2: fast radio bursts and other kinds of mysterious signals which
- 27:19Speaker 2: we now know today a lot of times are having
- 27:21Speaker 2: something to do with a supernova, a neutron star, some
- 27:25Speaker 2: extreme event out there that we didn't even know at
- 27:28Speaker 2: the time that we're writing LGM next to radio data
- 27:31Speaker 2: that we didn't even know these objects existed, all right,
- 27:34Speaker 2: So this thing is actually a slow and repeating radio
- 27:38Speaker 2: signal coming from somewhere in the direction of the Big Dipper.
- 27:43Speaker 2: It's a radio pulse that repeats about every two hours,
- 27:47Speaker 2: which seems to just be a little bit too slow
- 27:51Speaker 2: for your average neutron star spinning around and generating a pulsar.
- 27:56Speaker 2: So so astronomers have been trying to figure out what
- 28:00Speaker 2: this was, and they've been trying to figure it out
- 28:01Speaker 2: by number one, getting a really good pinpoint on where
- 28:06Speaker 2: this radio emission is coming from, and then number two
- 28:10Speaker 2: tracking it back to whatever object is often that direction
- 28:15Speaker 2: that might be generating it. So a new study published
- 28:18Speaker 2: by an international team of researchers that's published in the
- 28:21Speaker 2: journal Nature believe the lead author was from Australia, by
- 28:25Speaker 2: the way, has talked about this rapidly repeating radio No,
- 28:31Speaker 2: the slowly repeating radio burst coming from a weird combination
- 28:37Speaker 2: of not anything to do with a black hole or
- 28:39Speaker 2: a super massive black hole, or a supernova or a
- 28:42Speaker 2: neutron star or any of those things. It has to
- 28:45Speaker 2: do with something called a white dwarf. A white dwarf
- 28:50Speaker 2: is the core of a star like the Sun, that's
- 28:53Speaker 2: been left over after that star has reached the end
- 28:57Speaker 2: of its life cycle and least all the outer layers
- 29:01Speaker 2: of the star, and those outer layers have drifted off
- 29:03Speaker 2: into space. Well, this particular white dwarf is in a
- 29:08Speaker 2: system with a red dwarf stellar companion. What's a red dwarf?
- 29:13Speaker 2: A red dwarf is just a star like the Sun,
- 29:17Speaker 2: except a whole lot smaller, so it doesn't glow as hot,
- 29:20Speaker 2: so it's redder in color, which actually means cooler, by
- 29:23Speaker 2: the way, not hotter. The hotter stars are, the bluer
- 29:27Speaker 2: they are, the cooler they are, the redder they are.
- 29:29Speaker 2: This isn't a system with a catalog number of designation
- 29:32Speaker 2: is ILTJ eleven oh one. And here's the weird thing.
- 29:38Speaker 2: The slow repeating radio emissions appear to be coming from
- 29:43Speaker 2: white dwarf and red dwarf companion stars in this system.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Why would those things be emitting big bursts of radio
- 29:54Speaker 2: waves over a kind of a two hour period. So
- 29:57Speaker 2: there wasn't a ready explanation for that. When the astronomers
- 30:01Speaker 2: traced it back to that source, but now a little
- 30:05Speaker 2: bit of modeling has been done. It appears that as
- 30:08Speaker 2: these two stars are orpening around one another, that their
- 30:14Speaker 2: individual magnetic fields are interacting in some weird way. And yes,
- 30:18Speaker 2: a white dwarf can maintain the previous stars magnetic field
- 30:23Speaker 2: even after the death of that star. So white dwarfs
- 30:26Speaker 2: do have magnetic fields. The white dwarf from the I'm sorry,
- 30:29Speaker 2: the magnetic field from the white dwarf and magnetic field
- 30:31Speaker 2: from the red dwarf are sweeping through each other, causing
- 30:35Speaker 2: some kind of weird interaction as they spin about each other,
- 30:41Speaker 2: rotating on their axis and also revolving around one another.
- 30:45Speaker 2: And they're putting off this radio burst every couple of
- 30:49Speaker 2: hours because of that weird interaction. So here's a whole
- 30:52Speaker 2: another different explanation for a repeating radio burst from space
- 30:58Speaker 2: that had never been considered before. Check out the story
- 31:01Speaker 2: of the mysterious slow repeating radio source on space dot com.
- 31:07Speaker 4: All right, just this week on Tuesday, you guys had
- 31:11Speaker 4: the April first edition of Music under the Dome. One
- 31:14Speaker 4: more chance in this season to check out the show
- 31:17Speaker 4: coming up on May sixth. Plus, I know you guys
- 31:20Speaker 4: have some astronomy night info on your website as well.
- 31:24Speaker 2: So the May the sixth concert in our Music under
- 31:27Speaker 2: the Dome series. All the concerts to this point have
- 31:30Speaker 2: been students and faculty from the Shop School of Music
- 31:33Speaker 2: coming in and performing under the dome in our planetarium
- 31:38Speaker 2: with original graphics on the dome produced by visual artists,
- 31:41Speaker 2: and that's been the mode and direction of the concert.
- 31:45Speaker 2: The concert in May is going to be very different.
- 31:49Speaker 2: There's a musical artist by the name of Dan Tepfer
- 31:52Speaker 2: who is not associated with Clubstate University. He's coming in
- 31:56Speaker 2: to perform Music under the Dome in May as a
- 31:59Speaker 2: special show in the concert series because he's going to
- 32:03Speaker 2: be playing an amazing instrument in our planetarum called the
- 32:06Speaker 2: disc Lavier. The disc Lavier is a nine foot concert
- 32:10Speaker 2: grand piano built by Yamaha that has one special characteristic.
- 32:16Speaker 2: It's also a starship of computer electronics that can interface
- 32:23Speaker 2: with our planetarium dome. And so as Dan Tepfer comes
- 32:27Speaker 2: in to play this instrument in our planetarium, the planetarium
- 32:31Speaker 2: is actually going to be linked to the visual systems
- 32:35Speaker 2: of the planetarium and the visuals produced on the dome
- 32:40Speaker 2: are actually going to be generated by the piano itself.
- 32:45Speaker 2: Dan Tepfer is a specialist in this interface between music
- 32:51Speaker 2: and digital projection. He's going to be coming in for
- 32:54Speaker 2: this special edition of Music under the Dome with that
- 32:57Speaker 2: disc lavier piano, which does, by the way, belong to
- 33:00Speaker 2: the Shop School of Music here at Columbus State University.
- 33:03Speaker 2: It was donated by Gail Greenblatt in a very generous
- 33:06Speaker 2: donation to the Show Up School, and now the full
- 33:10Speaker 2: capabilities of that instrument are going to be on display.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Do not miss the May edition of Music under the Dome,
- 33:18Speaker 2: a special edition of this concert series the first Tuesday
- 33:22Speaker 2: in May. Yes there will still be wine, Yes still
- 33:24Speaker 2: there will still be cheese. But then after that we
- 33:27Speaker 2: will see Dan Tepf play our planetarium dome with the
- 33:31Speaker 2: controller of the disc lavie piano, a one off, a
- 33:35Speaker 2: special event in our concert series. Check it out at
- 33:39Speaker 2: Space Science Center's website. For ticket information, go visit www
- 33:43Speaker 2: dot cc SSC dot org. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org.
- 33:49Speaker 2: That stands for Coca Cola Space Science Center.
- 33:53Speaker 4: Sean and I thank you for listening, and we'll do
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