Latest / Untraditionally Lala / Dating & Sex with Love Island USA’s Calvin Cobb and Eli Benjamin
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, welcome to the Give Them the Law
- 0:09Speaker 1: podcast where She's not here, but we are.
- 0:13Speaker 2: We are in Who is we? Easton?
- 0:15Speaker 3: Were Burningham?
- 0:24Speaker 1: No one will I put myself on the back all
- 0:27Speaker 1: the time because Gigi won't do it for me.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Speaking of Gig, how was your weekend with Gigi and Law?
- 0:32Speaker 2: I saw you guys had family in town.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yea brother, sister in law, niece, nephew, and it was
- 0:39Speaker 1: good family time.
- 0:40Speaker 3: When shoe shopping with my nephew, it's a what is
- 0:44Speaker 3: it called? Now, I'm drawing a blank.
- 0:47Speaker 1: It's a burger place, shake shack. No, it's like easy
- 0:51Speaker 1: something easy Street or something. Okay, it was like a
- 0:55Speaker 1: top tier burger.
- 0:57Speaker 3: But ye done nothing slaps like burger.
- 1:00Speaker 2: She wrote, that's right as you can hear.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Please welcome Eli and Calvin.
- 1:10Speaker 1: If you'd like to snap for quiet snap, thank you,
- 1:15Speaker 1: but please introduce yourself.
- 1:17Speaker 4: Who are you do your thing?
- 1:19Speaker 3: Bro?
- 1:20Speaker 5: My name is Calvin Cobb and I am a fan
- 1:22Speaker 5: of Burger, She wrote, We have specified here. You might
- 1:27Speaker 5: have seen me on season two of Love Island us A.
- 1:33Speaker 5: I am absolutely ecstatic to be here.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Hey, thank you for joining us. Thank you for taking
- 1:39Speaker 3: time out of your day to do this with me,
- 1:41Speaker 3: of course.
- 1:42Speaker 2: What about you, sir?
- 1:43Speaker 4: What about me?
- 1:44Speaker 3: Sir?
- 1:44Speaker 4: Hello everybody, my name is Eli. You have not seen
- 1:47Speaker 4: me on Love Island?
- 1:48Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but you might please put his resume in a.
- 1:52Speaker 4: Few times every season Survivor as well. Somebody put me
- 1:56Speaker 4: on something scratch, there you go, so you wouldn't see
- 2:01Speaker 4: me on that. But my name is Eli. Live in
- 2:03Speaker 4: la for a minute, so you might see me bouncing around.
- 2:05Speaker 4: I did watch your episode though, yesterday for the first time.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that's Moira Squirman.
- 2:12Speaker 4: Throw in that seat. I mean, there's no spoilers, right,
- 2:14Speaker 4: this is years ago.
- 2:15Speaker 3: This is this is years ago. I mean COVID that's
- 2:20Speaker 3: a popidemic. I need to do in Vegas.
- 2:23Speaker 2: I need to watch Love Island. I'm gonna do my
- 2:26Speaker 2: personal intro of these three just so you guys know.
- 2:30Speaker 2: So I love the three of you. I love these
- 2:33Speaker 2: three guys because I know Eli because he worked across
- 2:39Speaker 2: the hall from us when we were over at our
- 2:41Speaker 2: other offices in West Hollywood. I know Calvin through Easton
- 2:46Speaker 2: and these three guys are like, I'm gonna talk to
- 2:49Speaker 2: little ladies for a second. If you ladies know how
- 2:53Speaker 2: men can be, but these three are very I just
- 2:55Speaker 2: like their friendship because they're not afraid to be like vulnerable,
- 2:58Speaker 2: and they're honest and they're such chill people to hang around.
- 3:02Speaker 2: And I know we said that on the podcast Stories
- 3:05Speaker 2: and we posted for you, for all of you men
- 3:09Speaker 2: and women to ask them questions and I'm very excited
- 3:12Speaker 2: for them to answer. So all of this to say,
- 3:14Speaker 2: I'm very happy you three are hon It's like a trio.
- 3:17Speaker 1: That's why we I think I'll get along with each
- 3:19Speaker 1: other is because we're honest.
- 3:20Speaker 4: With each other.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah, great energy.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not afraid to say anything that's not that.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Everything on my mind is said. Good cry we hugged right,
- 3:28Speaker 1: we really do.
- 3:29Speaker 3: Is it.
- 3:30Speaker 5: We're grateful for you as well being here. Thank you,
- 3:32Speaker 5: thank you for having us joining, Thank you La La.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, but the weekend was good. Law is doing amazing.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Yeah, her, she's the We had ocean and a babysitter
- 3:45Speaker 1: in London, my niece, my brother's little girl, so that
- 3:49Speaker 1: was amazing.
- 3:50Speaker 2: How old is London? London? Is you guys? I know
- 3:54Speaker 2: everyone was shocked being like, wait, Lala has a sister
- 3:56Speaker 2: in laws, Easton married. Easton is not married.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Yet but now not yet yet.
- 4:01Speaker 2: It's their older brother.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's my half brother. It's my brother from
- 4:05Speaker 1: my dad's first marriage.
- 4:07Speaker 2: His wife.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Yes, So they have a.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Daughter, yame London. They have a daughter who Yeah, Cheryl,
- 4:12Speaker 1: who you've heard of. She was in the delivery room.
- 4:14Speaker 1: They have a daughter, London. So we have two and
- 4:18Speaker 1: she's fourteen.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she was in she was That's a perfect
- 4:21Speaker 2: age for babysitting.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I'm not going to lie to you. I don't know
- 4:23Speaker 3: either of their ages.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Really.
- 4:25Speaker 1: They've grown up quick and I have no idea. My
- 4:27Speaker 1: nephew is turning sixteen. He's about to drive vehicles.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Wait, London. And there's a brother, Drayson, Drayson Okay, his
- 4:34Speaker 2: birthday was Friday. Yeah, you guys went to saddle Ranch.
- 4:37Speaker 3: Saddle Ranch.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Probably couldn't ride the bull. You had to be eighteen,
- 4:40Speaker 1: But you can be hammered as shit.
- 4:42Speaker 3: You have to be eighteen to rive seem to ride
- 4:44Speaker 3: the bull.
- 4:44Speaker 4: Injured, eighteen to get hammered a shit too.
- 4:47Speaker 1: No, but like you can ride it twenty one and
- 4:49Speaker 1: hammered as hell. It's like, why do you sixteen and sober?
- 4:52Speaker 1: I trust more than twenty one and a drunk dude
- 4:54Speaker 1: on it.
- 4:54Speaker 2: That's true, right, Yeah.
- 4:56Speaker 3: We draw the line these days? Where do we draw
- 4:58Speaker 3: the line?
- 4:58Speaker 2: Have either of you el Calvin ever been to Saddle Ranch?
- 5:02Speaker 2: You guys go out a lot. Tell us about your
- 5:03Speaker 2: social lips.
- 5:04Speaker 3: I have missed her out.
- 5:06Speaker 4: He is, he is late got Honestly, I've been a
- 5:11Speaker 4: little too out. The summer's been a bit much.
- 5:14Speaker 3: But it's good.
- 5:14Speaker 4: I've been to Saddle Ranch.
- 5:15Speaker 2: I have you have?
- 5:16Speaker 3: I have?
- 5:17Speaker 2: How many times give us a ballpark in your life?
- 5:20Speaker 3: Not that many?
- 5:20Speaker 4: Maybe like six?
- 5:22Speaker 2: Oh?
- 5:22Speaker 4: Okay, is that a lot conservative. I've read the bull
- 5:26Speaker 4: maybe twice successfully.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Yeah, hand up?
- 5:31Speaker 4: Hand up? We ass on the ground, hand back up,
- 5:33Speaker 4: asked back on the ground.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:36Speaker 3: There's one thing.
- 5:37Speaker 1: We saw some girl with no strength in any part
- 5:42Speaker 1: of her body and know how like.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Tips, Oh yeah, she.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Just would fly down. She smacked her head on the
- 5:50Speaker 1: bull and she'd lay there like lay on it because
- 5:54Speaker 1: she couldn't get back up. So the bull would flip
- 5:56Speaker 1: her again and then she'd just sit back. But because
- 5:59Speaker 1: it it's like controlled by somebody, So he wasn't angry, but.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Like she smacked her face so hard. Me and law
- 6:07Speaker 3: were dying. We did I didn't look.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I was too busy laughing, and I didn't want to
- 6:12Speaker 1: look and laugh because I felt bad.
- 6:14Speaker 4: It's not about how many times you smack your face
- 6:16Speaker 4: in the bowl, how many times you get up?
- 6:20Speaker 2: Baby?
- 6:21Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:22Speaker 2: Have you ridden the bull? Calvin?
- 6:23Speaker 3: I've been one time, Saddle Ranch, and I have not.
- 6:28Speaker 2: I have somebody maybe had a little too many drinking
- 6:31Speaker 2: that was.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Actually sober.
- 6:34Speaker 5: And it was it was no, this was this had
- 6:37Speaker 5: to have been when I lived here last, like in
- 6:40Speaker 5: twenty eighteen.
- 6:41Speaker 3: So that's why the memory is.
- 6:44Speaker 4: We didn't know that.
- 6:45Speaker 1: You knew that Combin Easton, Yeah, I knew he lived here,
- 6:47Speaker 1: then moved to Atlanta and then moved here.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Yeah it's the Midden.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Maryland here now right?
- 6:55Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 6:55Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 6:55Speaker 3: Oh yeah this guy? Yeah, how long have you lived here?
- 6:59Speaker 2: Wow?
- 6:59Speaker 3: Can thank you so much?
- 7:01Speaker 4: I've been here for a decade, decade six times. It's
- 7:04Speaker 4: Saddle Ranch.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Are you yes? Are all three of you single?
- 7:07Speaker 3: No?
- 7:08Speaker 1: Novin is going to be a good which has got
- 7:11Speaker 1: some answers because he'll be the relationship guy.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Okay, hold On also just hit six months ahead, six
- 7:18Speaker 2: months what relationship? Congratulations you thank you?
- 7:21Speaker 4: Trying to get like you.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Bro Okay, back at it.
- 7:25Speaker 3: So happy six months, Happy six months, Thank you so much.
- 7:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I am single. I just got out of a
- 7:31Speaker 4: four month.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Thing, situationship.
- 7:35Speaker 4: I feel weird saying situationship in my old ass age
- 7:37Speaker 4: of thirty.
- 7:38Speaker 3: It was.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Ok.
- 7:41Speaker 3: It was like a ghost relationship. I had no idea
- 7:43Speaker 3: he was dating.
- 7:45Speaker 4: She went to another school, so you guys don't know
- 7:47Speaker 4: her right right?
- 7:51Speaker 2: That?
- 7:51Speaker 4: But otherwise single, but it was tough. That was like
- 7:53Speaker 4: a That was the longest thing I've had in many years, actually,
- 7:56Speaker 4: that four month really? Yeah?
- 7:58Speaker 2: Oh so you're you're not a long term relationship guy?
- 8:03Speaker 2: Or are you? And just haven't been in a while.
- 8:05Speaker 4: I haven't had a girlfriend in about ten years since
- 8:08Speaker 4: I've moved to La.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Why why do you think?
- 8:10Speaker 4: I don't know? We should dive into that today.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Okay, that's exciting.
- 8:13Speaker 3: I think you might need a therapist around for that one,
- 8:15Speaker 3: are you guys?
- 8:16Speaker 4: You guys offer that? I haven't sure we can?
- 8:19Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think we're here for?
- 8:21Speaker 3: I can do my best. I'm not a voice of reason, though.
- 8:24Speaker 2: How long have you been single?
- 8:26Speaker 3: I've been single for I think like four years now.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Okay, do we enjoy being single? And I say we,
- 8:33Speaker 2: because I too am single, So this is do we
- 8:37Speaker 2: enjoy this?
- 8:37Speaker 4: It's perks.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I just feel like I like going throughout the day
- 8:41Speaker 1: not having to like entertain something uh huh something.
- 8:45Speaker 3: He says someone.
- 8:48Speaker 4: The pressure for someone's emotions, that's actions can sometimes be
- 8:53Speaker 4: a lot if you're not fully in it, right. But
- 8:56Speaker 4: it's nice to have a person, you know, it's nice
- 8:58Speaker 4: to have your person.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Wow, you're saying fully in it. I've never been in
- 9:01Speaker 1: fully in it and since my last one, but I.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Like i've been. I've talked to girls, but I've never
- 9:06Speaker 3: felt like fully in it.
- 9:07Speaker 2: But don't you think that's dating? You know what I'm
- 9:09Speaker 2: you guys wrote in so many questions, are you okay
- 9:12Speaker 2: for us to get Let's just get in because I
- 9:14Speaker 2: want to hear all three of your own damn advice,
- 9:17Speaker 2: your opinion.
- 9:19Speaker 1: And before we get into these questions, let's get a
- 9:21Speaker 1: quick up day from Lalla.
- 9:23Speaker 6: Hello, my loves. I miss you guys so so much.
- 9:26Speaker 6: Here is an update on life postpartum with baby Sosa.
- 9:31Speaker 6: We're getting hungry again. My life consists of feeding, burping,
- 9:35Speaker 6: putting her down for a nap, and by the time
- 9:38Speaker 6: I do all of that, it's time to start all
- 9:39Speaker 6: over again. I've put makeup on today that has not
- 9:43Speaker 6: happened in quite some time. Also, what I have learned
- 9:47Speaker 6: about Sosa, she has zero chill patience she gets from
- 9:52Speaker 6: her mama, we have none. She will come off of
- 9:56Speaker 6: the boob on accident like lose it out of her mouth.
- 9:59Speaker 6: She starts screaming bloody murder and thrashing like jazz. So
- 10:07Speaker 6: if that's any indication of how she will be in life,
- 10:10Speaker 6: she will get what she wants, that is for sure.
- 10:14Speaker 6: Like I said, I miss you, guys. I have one
- 10:17Speaker 6: week left of this life and then I'm back at it,
- 10:19Speaker 6: so I will catch you next week.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, and we can't wait for you to
- 10:22Speaker 1: come back and meet the room so I don't have
- 10:24Speaker 1: to run this shit.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, you guys, I'm not kidding.
- 10:33Speaker 2: This might be the most questions, one of the top
- 10:37Speaker 2: of a questions I've ever seen. This is very exciting.
- 10:42Speaker 2: A lot of you just want to know, like what
- 10:44Speaker 2: Easton and Eli and Calvin think. So, okay, this is what.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Do I think about what.
- 10:50Speaker 2: We're about to get into it? Okay, okay, okay, I'm
- 10:53Speaker 2: gonna start off strong, start off.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Strong, and the anxiety.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Are men attracted more two looks or personality? I want
- 11:03Speaker 2: all three of you to answer, honestly.
- 11:05Speaker 4: The initial attraction's got to be there on looks. I
- 11:07Speaker 4: think that's we all know that. I mean, that's how
- 11:09Speaker 4: conversations start, that's how romance usually begins. But I do
- 11:13Speaker 4: think a lack of connection personality wise does lead to
- 11:17Speaker 4: a quick fizzle. You got to have something that, like
- 11:19Speaker 4: when you're not together and you're texting and you're calling,
- 11:21Speaker 4: and you're not physically looking at each other and like
- 11:24Speaker 4: dreaming into each other's eyes, there's got to be something
- 11:26Speaker 4: to keep that going. Now.
- 11:28Speaker 3: I've like the.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Girl that I most recently dated was very, very, very funny,
- 11:32Speaker 4: and I didn't realize how much I valued humor in
- 11:35Speaker 4: a relationship because like, whether you're down or you're not down,
- 11:38Speaker 4: it's just like really nice to be able to just
- 11:39Speaker 4: be laughing your house off just throughout the day via text.
- 11:43Speaker 4: And she was also gorgeous, which helped that situation.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Did she call this off or did you this? Four
- 11:49Speaker 2: month is this?
- 11:50Speaker 4: I would say that she called it off okay, but
- 11:53Speaker 4: probably because I was not ready to give her what
- 11:56Speaker 4: she needed at that point. You know, we had a
- 11:58Speaker 4: conversation at the three month period being like thinking about
- 12:01Speaker 4: this kind of this, like I feel like artificial timeline
- 12:03Speaker 4: these days, that things have to turn into something real,
- 12:05Speaker 4: and we talked and wasn't ready to turn into that
- 12:08Speaker 4: for my own reasons. Then she ended up just getting
- 12:12Speaker 4: out to protect herself.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Hey, and you.
- 12:14Speaker 4: Are yeah, and it did, like that hurt me despite
- 12:17Speaker 4: knowing that like if I really wanted to fight for it,
- 12:20Speaker 4: I could, but still she ended.
- 12:22Speaker 2: It completely, Okay, do you have any regrets?
- 12:25Speaker 4: This is very fresh, This is a couple weeks old,
- 12:27Speaker 4: and it was a very last week was a very
- 12:28Speaker 4: tough week for me, honestly, sorry, even though I felt
- 12:31Speaker 4: like I had somewhat of control and power in the situation.
- 12:35Speaker 4: It's tough losing someone you know after four months. It's
- 12:37Speaker 4: tough to just like lose a person that you know
- 12:39Speaker 4: you know, And so she ended it.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Has the week or any the couple of weeks, has
- 12:45Speaker 1: that changed your mind of you being ready?
- 12:47Speaker 3: What were you not ready for?
- 12:49Speaker 4: Just had a lot of stuff going on in my
- 12:50Speaker 4: professional and personal life, and I feel like this is
- 12:52Speaker 4: a very bullshit cliche answer that every guy has probably
- 12:55Speaker 4: told somebody, but like it is true, like if I
- 12:57Speaker 4: had a wall up, and I don't think I ever
- 12:59Speaker 4: allowed myself to really knock that wall down for this
- 13:01Speaker 4: person and get to that point. And so it was
- 13:04Speaker 4: just like I don't think I allowed myself to be
- 13:06Speaker 4: vulnerable in that way until honestly, like the last night
- 13:08Speaker 4: in which I was able to really show her my
- 13:10Speaker 4: true emotions. But still she just deserved more from what
- 13:14Speaker 4: I was giving her at a four month period.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I think that was a very honest and respectable answer.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Thank you for that. How about you, Colvin, what do
- 13:21Speaker 2: you think about looks versus personality?
- 13:23Speaker 3: I think that both are important for me.
- 13:27Speaker 5: I think that especially growing up as a you know,
- 13:32Speaker 5: as a guy, you're like, oh.
- 13:32Speaker 3: My god, I gotta have the hottest, the hottest.
- 13:35Speaker 5: Girl in it, and and that's that's the most important thing.
- 13:39Speaker 5: And then as you kind of age, you kind of realize,
- 13:43Speaker 5: like sometimes I would say, even personality is a little
- 13:48Speaker 5: bit more important because I mean, looks are going to
- 13:50Speaker 5: fade and that one little thing that you might think
- 13:54Speaker 5: is a little out of whack can either be fixed
- 13:56Speaker 5: or it's just not gonna matter here in forty years
- 13:58Speaker 5: when you're you know, fat and wrinkly and old as
- 14:02Speaker 5: well as and so to be able to have that
- 14:05Speaker 5: that connection is really important when it comes to the personality.
- 14:10Speaker 5: Like you know, I was saying, it's you got to
- 14:12Speaker 5: be able to laugh with the person that being said.
- 14:15Speaker 5: Obviously you want to look for the best of both worlds,
- 14:17Speaker 5: which fortunately I have been able to acquire. Not a car,
- 14:23Speaker 5: but you know, yes, consentually's actually I've both come to
- 14:28Speaker 5: an agreement.
- 14:30Speaker 3: No, but yeah, so I'd say both.
- 14:32Speaker 5: But yeah, looks catches the eye first and then the
- 14:35Speaker 5: personality keeps it going.
- 14:37Speaker 4: I will also say, though, what I really love in
- 14:39Speaker 4: a woman that I'm dating is confidence, and sometimes that
- 14:42Speaker 4: does coming with her. I was going to say, that's
- 14:44Speaker 4: monk that she's attract iron So you know, someone being
- 14:48Speaker 4: hot and a bad bitch like I love that because
- 14:50Speaker 4: like I also love them being confident and that comes
- 14:52Speaker 4: in insecurity issues sometimes well, confidence, I feel like makes
- 14:55Speaker 4: the girl even more attractive. You can be you know,
- 14:59Speaker 4: uh in my like you could be basic in your eyes,
- 15:03Speaker 4: but like, if your confidence is there, your aura is
- 15:07Speaker 4: what brightens that like you in that room.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will yes, I will say too as
- 15:13Speaker 2: a woman and I'll say this, like with my relationship
- 15:15Speaker 2: with Kyle, because I was with him since I was
- 15:17Speaker 2: twenty five, when I was more insecure at the beginning,
- 15:20Speaker 2: less confident, that led into like jealousy and like all
- 15:24Speaker 2: these things that were just lots of fights. And when
- 15:27Speaker 2: I became more sure of myself and more confident, then
- 15:30Speaker 2: it was like, oh, chill and happy and like I
- 15:33Speaker 2: felt good and then he felt good. So I think
- 15:35Speaker 2: confidence plays a role in a lot of things.
- 15:38Speaker 3: For sure.
- 15:38Speaker 1: What I look for is looks first, obviously, catch the eye,
- 15:42Speaker 1: like you said, and I look for a personality and
- 15:45Speaker 1: just confidence in the room to brighten the room itself,
- 15:48Speaker 1: but to put her in a certain light. And we
- 15:50Speaker 1: all know that one girl that has done that, you know,
- 15:52Speaker 1: no matter who it is, So that would be for me,
- 15:55Speaker 1: just a confident woman. Yeah, and that confidence brings attraction
- 15:59Speaker 1: as well, you know.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love that. Okay, you guys,
- 16:03Speaker 2: Next question, Okay, why is it so hard for men
- 16:10Speaker 2: to share their emotions with their partners? This is obviously biased,
- 16:15Speaker 2: but I do think a lot of people feel that
- 16:18Speaker 2: way sometimes about men. It's very difficult for a lot
- 16:21Speaker 2: of men to be vulnerable and emotional with their partners.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never had that issue, and I've always been honest,
- 16:31Speaker 1: but I feel like it's because the reaction you've got
- 16:34Speaker 1: being honest has made you never want to be honest
- 16:36Speaker 1: again with partner, and so I feel like, if you
- 16:41Speaker 1: can't go to your partner and be honest, it's because
- 16:43Speaker 1: they made you feel uncomfortable being honest, so now you
- 16:46Speaker 1: feel like you can't. And at that point, as a conversation, okay,
- 16:51Speaker 1: because I've never been in that.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Boat, have you, Guys?
- 16:54Speaker 4: I think there's definitely a fear amongst a lot of
- 16:56Speaker 4: men of being vulnerable and opening up so that they
- 16:59Speaker 4: can shut down, especially like these days with you know,
- 17:03Speaker 4: general toxic masculinity stuff. Like, I think a lot of
- 17:05Speaker 4: young boys are trained that they do have to hide
- 17:07Speaker 4: those emotions and feelings. Despite the fact that I'm friends
- 17:10Speaker 4: with a lot of women, and I'm sure we'll dive
- 17:12Speaker 4: into that in some later questions. I have a feeling
- 17:16Speaker 4: but like I like all the girls that I talk
- 17:18Speaker 4: to will say that they are absolutely not turned off
- 17:20Speaker 4: by a guy who's showing emotions and feelings towards them,
- 17:22Speaker 4: But somehow it's been ingrained, and I think a lot
- 17:24Speaker 4: of young boys' minds that it's going to make them
- 17:26Speaker 4: look bad and make them look weak, and like, I mean, look,
- 17:29Speaker 4: I cried for the first time in like ten years
- 17:32Speaker 4: two weeks ago, So I'm not going to sit here
- 17:34Speaker 4: and act like I'm mister fucking emotions over here. I
- 17:38Speaker 4: was like crying. I was like, is this? What is this?
- 17:39Speaker 4: What crying is?
- 17:40Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 17:40Speaker 4: Can you care for some deeply? I can't really breathe
- 17:43Speaker 4: on my nose. It's just like, is this regular?
- 17:45Speaker 2: Right?
- 17:45Speaker 3: I've cried on this podcast.
- 17:47Speaker 4: Nobody makes good emotion tears. But when I did, it
- 17:51Speaker 4: was it was very freeing, you know, And I can
- 17:53Speaker 4: say that it definitely I do not think turned off
- 17:55Speaker 4: this person that I was talking to. If anything, it
- 17:57Speaker 4: felt like we made breakthroughs, even if it was a
- 17:58Speaker 4: little late. But still, I don't know. I'm new to it,
- 18:02Speaker 4: but like I do think it's very important. It's a
- 18:05Speaker 4: vulnerability thing. It's shutting down your wall thing. You know. Yeah,
- 18:09Speaker 4: this man be crying though.
- 18:10Speaker 2: You'd be crying. Calvin, could you me.
- 18:15Speaker 3: All the time? Could you repeat the question please? Yes?
- 18:19Speaker 2: Could a sentence?
- 18:23Speaker 3: Why be sad? Broad a good shower?
- 18:27Speaker 4: Crist The day started like that, it doesn't count if
- 18:29Speaker 4: you cry in.
- 18:30Speaker 2: The shower, right, Why is it so hard for men
- 18:35Speaker 2: to share their emotions with their partners.
- 18:37Speaker 5: I also think that it has something to do with
- 18:40Speaker 5: a level of commitment and trust and the relationship. I
- 18:46Speaker 5: think that in the last couple of years, I've I've
- 18:49Speaker 5: come to find that a lot of times I'll kind
- 18:52Speaker 5: of distance myself emotionally in order to protect myself in
- 18:58Speaker 5: order to Okay, well, if I share this and get
- 18:59Speaker 5: that vulnerable, I'm giving this other individual and this human
- 19:03Speaker 5: a look into something that they could use to weaponize
- 19:06Speaker 5: against me, right, which obviously isn't the ideal, and that's
- 19:10Speaker 5: what you wouldn't hope would happen. But I do think
- 19:13Speaker 5: that's an aspect of why, especially men are more inclined
- 19:20Speaker 5: to kind of hide those emotions or not express him
- 19:24Speaker 5: as fully because of that protective aspect of their vulnerability.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I think that there's obviously it's
- 19:33Speaker 2: a relationship based years ago with my one boyfriend who
- 19:37Speaker 2: I was with for like two years in Nashville. I oh,
- 19:40Speaker 2: have done so many awful things. But he let's get
- 19:43Speaker 2: into that into that sit But he was like he
- 19:48Speaker 2: basically entered he was like six years older than me,
- 19:51Speaker 2: way more emotionally mature. He entered our relationship being very honest, right,
- 19:55Speaker 2: being like, oh my ex and I ended because I
- 19:58Speaker 2: cheated on her with this person, but I regretted it.
- 20:01Speaker 2: He was very honest, and instead of sort of taking
- 20:04Speaker 2: that like I would now and be like thank you
- 20:07Speaker 2: and hearing it being like you've grown, I really did,
- 20:11Speaker 2: I think eventually weaponize it. And it made me insecure
- 20:15Speaker 2: because he said, like he cheated, So I was like, okay,
- 20:17Speaker 2: so this guy cheats when like that's it's so tricky
- 20:21Speaker 2: because like he did cheat, but he was saying how
- 20:24Speaker 2: he was growing, and so then when he would go
- 20:26Speaker 2: on tour and stuff, I was insecure and I'd be like, yeah,
- 20:29Speaker 2: but you cheat, like you told me you cheated before.
- 20:31Speaker 2: What if you cheat again? And we ended up breaking
- 20:33Speaker 2: up because a lot of things. I just I did that,
- 20:36Speaker 2: like I did weaponize. He was trying to be honest,
- 20:38Speaker 2: and so I do think at the end of the day,
- 20:42Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't meant to be for sure, but
- 20:44Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it is better to
- 20:46Speaker 2: be honest. And like you said, like, yeah, it can
- 20:48Speaker 2: be used against you. And but like being honest, being vulnerable,
- 20:52Speaker 2: being emotional. I definitely appreciate now more than I ever have.
- 20:57Speaker 4: I think for sure, keeping things hidden is never going
- 20:59Speaker 4: to help long term. No, it might make things easier
- 21:02Speaker 4: in the beginning, and it might make like this facade
- 21:04Speaker 4: of like everything being chill, but like down the line,
- 21:07Speaker 4: it's going to come out regardless.
- 21:08Speaker 3: But then you have to be all right with whatever
- 21:10Speaker 3: you're told to forgive.
- 21:12Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, or just taken into account. Well, okay, yeah
- 21:15Speaker 5: that do I want to be with someone that has
- 21:17Speaker 5: cheat in the past, you know.
- 21:19Speaker 2: That's very true. That's why a lot of couples therapists say,
- 21:21Speaker 2: like when couples go and I just know this because
- 21:24Speaker 2: mine and Kyle's couples therapists said this, when couples go
- 21:28Speaker 2: to a therapy for cheating. If you this is a
- 21:33Speaker 2: lot of them, not every but it's like, when you
- 21:36Speaker 2: choose to forgive the cheating, you have to move on.
- 21:39Speaker 2: You cannot keep going back because it's like then it
- 21:42Speaker 2: just becomes toxic, you know. Okay, So there are a
- 21:46Speaker 2: ton of questions like this. This is the most recent
- 21:48Speaker 2: one up top, but basically, can men and women be friends?
- 21:52Speaker 2: This says can a female and male both married with
- 21:55Speaker 2: children actually be best friends? So my overarch in question
- 22:00Speaker 2: for all all three of you, can men and women
- 22:03Speaker 2: truly be best friends?
- 22:05Speaker 3: I think so sexual.
- 22:07Speaker 1: I think though, it's when you've had sex and you're
- 22:11Speaker 1: best friends with them.
- 22:12Speaker 3: I can't get by that.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Like my if I was dating a girl and her
- 22:17Speaker 1: best friend was a guy, but they had even one
- 22:19Speaker 1: time they slept together, I can't get behind that.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Okay, even a drunken night, MISSA can't.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Who's to say they're not going to get drunk again
- 22:28Speaker 1: hanging out with each other as best friends and it's
- 22:30Speaker 1: going to happen again or they were.
- 22:31Speaker 2: She was like Easton, I regretted it so much. I'm
- 22:34Speaker 2: like disgusted.
- 22:36Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 22:36Speaker 1: And that's for me mentally, I don't think I could
- 22:38Speaker 1: get by it because that would eat me alive. Even
- 22:41Speaker 1: if it was she didn't, Yeah, it would eat me alive.
- 22:43Speaker 3: So I have to dismiss myself from it. Yeah, so I.
- 22:47Speaker 1: Think you can. For me, you can be a best
- 22:49Speaker 1: friend with opposite sex. But I think there's a line
- 22:55Speaker 1: that I have, and it's not having a past with
- 22:58Speaker 1: that best friend.
- 22:59Speaker 2: And that's about you know about yourself. That's great to
- 23:01Speaker 2: have for you.
- 23:02Speaker 3: It is.
- 23:03Speaker 2: I do feel that Eli may have a different opinion,
- 23:05Speaker 2: but do you or do you not? Eli?
- 23:07Speaker 4: My best friend is a girl. You guys all know her.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Yes, she's great.
- 23:10Speaker 4: Her name is Jill. Shout out Jill. And so I
- 23:13Speaker 4: think I have lots of female friends, and I think
- 23:15Speaker 4: it is so super normal and totally healthy to have
- 23:19Speaker 4: female friends. I know that that's hard to be. Like
- 23:21Speaker 4: I meet people when I tell them I'm friends with
- 23:23Speaker 4: the girls, and they're like bullshit, like that you want
- 23:25Speaker 4: to fuck them or they want to fuck you, and
- 23:26Speaker 4: like that can happen for sure. But I think it's
- 23:29Speaker 4: totally reasonable to have good friends that are women.
- 23:32Speaker 3: That's fine with me.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Have I want my girlfriend to have many of guy friends,
- 23:38Speaker 1: not a guy best friend, sure in my opinion.
- 23:41Speaker 4: And that's just me and the insecurity thing of having
- 23:45Speaker 4: your girlfriend with the best friend that she's at sex with, Like,
- 23:47Speaker 4: that's valid.
- 23:48Speaker 3: That's that's my that's my line, and that is.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Like a lot of times people ask me like, so me,
- 23:54Speaker 4: I'm this, We'll skip okay.
- 23:57Speaker 2: So it is valid that people get you know, insecure
- 24:02Speaker 2: about that for sure. But that's good to know like,
- 24:04Speaker 2: that's your boundary, and you could also be like, well
- 24:06Speaker 2: that's my boundary. Not everyone has to have that.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's fine. You can still have that as
- 24:11Speaker 1: a best friend. I'm not going to take your best friend.
- 24:12Speaker 1: I'm going to dismiss myself from this situation, right.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Can I ask you Eli before we ask you Calvin
- 24:18Speaker 2: the same question? Has there ever been in the years
- 24:22Speaker 2: of you being friend? Because I'm someone who is very
- 24:25Speaker 2: much has been best friends with guys I mean jiu
- 24:30Speaker 2: jitsu for crying out loud like and I also am
- 24:34Speaker 2: currently I feel best friends with Kyle, and I hope
- 24:37Speaker 2: it stays that way. So have you ever been able
- 24:41Speaker 2: to and obviously we don't need to be specific hook
- 24:43Speaker 2: up with just like fun hookups with your girlfriends and
- 24:46Speaker 2: then be like, Okay, that was fun and carry on
- 24:48Speaker 2: as friends.
- 24:49Speaker 4: What I don't do that?
- 24:51Speaker 2: Okay?
- 24:51Speaker 4: I very much like when I meet someone, they're either
- 24:54Speaker 4: in a friendship bucket or a romantic bucket. And people
- 24:56Speaker 4: that go into the romantic bucket they can easily after
- 24:59Speaker 4: that that's done become friends again. But when I've placed
- 25:03Speaker 4: them into the friendship bucket, they don't then go to
- 25:06Speaker 4: a romantic bucket and like, I'm not someone that like
- 25:09Speaker 4: I need like an immediate attraction. I need like immediately
- 25:11Speaker 4: be like I'm into you, and so like once we're
- 25:14Speaker 4: friends for me. And I know most people won't want
- 25:16Speaker 4: to hear this, but like, I don't unfriend zone people
- 25:19Speaker 4: into a romantic situation.
- 25:21Speaker 2: Oh okay, so like I feel like I do. Oh
- 25:24Speaker 2: my god, I do in that freak.
- 25:26Speaker 1: College Yeah, but I yeah, but your mine, I'm possessive.
- 25:32Speaker 1: I think it's easier, like one one at a time,
- 25:35Speaker 1: one at a time, please too.
- 25:37Speaker 4: I think it's easier for women to grow and gain
- 25:40Speaker 4: affection towards a male friend than it is for me
- 25:42Speaker 4: to all of a sudden see a friend and be like,
- 25:44Speaker 4: you know what.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Actually really, but I can't hook up with a girl
- 25:48Speaker 1: and then know she's hooking up with other guys and
- 25:50Speaker 1: still hook.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Up with her.
- 25:52Speaker 3: A lot of I think that's I'm like, yeah, that's yeah, well.
- 25:54Speaker 2: See Eli or Calvin Chicken has had no your friend.
- 25:59Speaker 1: And I.
- 26:03Speaker 5: Think that it can't. I think there's a couple factors here.
- 26:08Speaker 5: I think that if it's like a long term friendship
- 26:12Speaker 5: from childhood, like almost brothers sister, right, and you know,
- 26:16Speaker 5: nothing's ever happened, and they're just buddy buddy, and I
- 26:19Speaker 5: know the question was talking about being married and stuff
- 26:21Speaker 5: like that. Absolutely, I think they can be really really
- 26:24Speaker 5: close friends. If I would probably be in the vein
- 26:27Speaker 5: of Easton if there has been something in the past
- 26:30Speaker 5: they suck together or something like that. No matter what
- 26:33Speaker 5: the circumstances, it is harder for me to get behind that.
- 26:36Speaker 3: And what they did isn't wrong, like that's not yeah,
- 26:39Speaker 3: Like that's fine.
- 26:39Speaker 5: Especially if you weren't even in the picture or something
- 26:41Speaker 5: like that. But I can't get by yeah, And that's
- 26:44Speaker 5: something I think that kind of what Eli's talking about
- 26:48Speaker 5: is regardless moving forward in those relationships, there needs to
- 26:52Speaker 5: be firm boundaries set of like, hey, we're friends. And
- 26:56Speaker 5: I think that if it's like if Eli's single, it
- 26:59Speaker 5: doesn't really matter too much if he does have a
- 27:01Speaker 5: girl best friend or not. But if he gets into
- 27:03Speaker 5: a relationship with a girl, then in my opinion, that
- 27:08Speaker 5: relationship would need to be not reassessed but readjusted and say,
- 27:16Speaker 5: you know, if I'm dating someone, then I'm going to
- 27:18Speaker 5: be that main person or that priority in their life.
- 27:21Speaker 2: If that makes sense, one hundred percent supersede the friendship
- 27:23Speaker 2: for sure.
- 27:24Speaker 4: I'd like to add that I'm very aware that male
- 27:26Speaker 4: and female friendships can be problematic towards relationships, and I'm
- 27:29Speaker 4: very happy and grateful that my best friend that we
- 27:32Speaker 4: have never engaged in any type of romance or sexual intimacy,
- 27:36Speaker 4: because I already know that when I do get a
- 27:37Speaker 4: girlfriend who turned into a wife one day, like, that's
- 27:40Speaker 4: already going to be a pain point. The fact that
- 27:41Speaker 4: my best friend's a girl, Like I know that I'm
- 27:43Speaker 4: aware of that, and so being able to like look
- 27:45Speaker 4: at my girl and say, like, we've never slept slept together,
- 27:49Speaker 4: like that's fucking huge, huge, And it would be a
- 27:52Speaker 4: much more difficult pill to swallow for her if I
- 27:54Speaker 4: was like, oh, yeah her, Yeah, we used to speak.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Yeah, best friends.
- 28:01Speaker 2: Right right? What else we got you, guys? This is
- 28:04Speaker 2: a good one again. Same opinion on porn, how it's
- 28:09Speaker 2: affecting the modern men's sex life.
- 28:12Speaker 3: I feel like it's.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Ruining the girls are watching the porn, and it's ruining
- 28:15Speaker 1: it for I can't give what you're looking at in porn.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Okay, we're watching it. I just need to get off.
- 28:21Speaker 1: It's not like I'm expecting you guys to go ape
- 28:23Speaker 1: shit in the bedroom.
- 28:24Speaker 3: So, but you guys are the fucking ones ruining it
- 28:27Speaker 3: for us. You got fucking fifteen inch dildos, you got.
- 28:31Speaker 1: I don't know, dudes with eight packs, twelve packs, and
- 28:34Speaker 1: I'm over here like I just look good, but.
- 28:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't packing that. So the women are ruining it.
- 28:41Speaker 2: So you think women are watching porn and expecting you
- 28:44Speaker 2: to look and perform like these male actors, I don't, yes, actors, yes,
- 28:50Speaker 2: and you got it like that? Okay, I okay, So
- 28:55Speaker 2: you you don't expect when you're with a woman in
- 29:00Speaker 2: the bedroom some sort of performance, or you haven't watched
- 29:03Speaker 2: porn and then hooked up with a woman and she.
- 29:06Speaker 3: Is your body and it doesn't need to be great.
- 29:08Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be there, Okay, Okay, I'm just
- 29:12Speaker 1: happy to be there.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Do you think have you ever been with a woman
- 29:16Speaker 2: that you were like, oh, she's very much faking this enthusiasm,
- 29:19Speaker 2: whether or not, it's.
- 29:21Speaker 1: Pretty sure every time. Yeah, there's no way I'm bottoming out.
- 29:25Speaker 3: We all know.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's say, I know.
- 29:28Speaker 3: But thank you for letting me be a part of
- 29:31Speaker 3: of your body of the bed. Yeah, okay, part of
- 29:34Speaker 3: the party, you too.
- 29:36Speaker 4: I think the accessibility to porn, combined with the ability
- 29:41Speaker 4: for a younger generation to be on dating apps and
- 29:43Speaker 4: stay away from actual interactions with human women in real life,
- 29:48Speaker 4: has probably had a bad effect on allowing kids growing
- 29:52Speaker 4: up to be like just to not know what's real
- 29:54Speaker 4: and to know what's fake. Just like to not have
- 29:56Speaker 4: these physical and like real interactions and intimate relationship with women,
- 30:01Speaker 4: for sure, is going to hold people to not really
- 30:03Speaker 4: understand how to deal with these irl interactions. I think
- 30:06Speaker 4: porn as well as like, I think the younger generation
- 30:09Speaker 4: just with all like the Andrew taits and these like streamers,
- 30:12Speaker 4: sneak o and all these people that like talk poorly
- 30:15Speaker 4: about women, have almost as bad of an effect on
- 30:19Speaker 4: their mindset as the actual literal porn, which has been
- 30:21Speaker 4: around like forever, Like you know, finding playboys in your dad.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I know, I was finding playboys in my dad's closet
- 30:27Speaker 1: and on huh, good, look at them, drop them and leave,
- 30:31Speaker 1: you know, nice? Nice, But if they really they really
- 30:35Speaker 1: do they listen to these people and they like start
- 30:38Speaker 1: emulating how they were speaking about women too.
- 30:40Speaker 4: And like all like calling women's sluts and for just
- 30:42Speaker 4: like like body count conversations is so stupid and toxic.
- 30:45Speaker 4: But like the youth like grow up on this. Like
- 30:47Speaker 4: I feel bad for women that need to date these
- 30:50Speaker 4: younger kids, right, the younger generation who have to date
- 30:54Speaker 4: these boys who like don't really understand life. You know,
- 30:57Speaker 4: all they see is just be like she's had sex
- 31:00Speaker 4: three people? No, right, It's like I'd prefer experienced woman.
- 31:05Speaker 3: You know, it's free.
- 31:09Speaker 4: I don't think sex is bad. I'm just gonna say
- 31:11Speaker 4: we'll dive into that a little bit.
- 31:13Speaker 3: It's like you've read the questions.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Bad sex bad? Okay, great? Is there has there ever
- 31:21Speaker 2: been Have you ever found yourself in a time in
- 31:23Speaker 2: life where it's been like you have been maybe consuming
- 31:28Speaker 2: porn and then you like maybe at the beginning of
- 31:31Speaker 2: having sex, and then you start to experience women and
- 31:33Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's not necessarily like what I've been
- 31:36Speaker 2: watching or no, do you have a good relationship with that?
- 31:38Speaker 4: Not me personally again, I think I'm a little older,
- 31:41Speaker 4: but like I haven't watched porn in maybe five months
- 31:45Speaker 4: or so at this point, potentially because I was in
- 31:48Speaker 4: this relationship or a situationship whatever you want to call
- 31:50Speaker 4: in which just wasn't really necessary a very healthy sex life.
- 31:53Speaker 4: And like the other day, I was like, am I
- 31:55Speaker 4: gonna have to start there?
- 31:57Speaker 3: You are?
- 31:58Speaker 1: Let you know you're gonna be watching portant buddy. Yeah,
- 32:01Speaker 1: you ready to get the fingers type? And I want
- 32:04Speaker 1: you it's been a week for me. Families in town.
- 32:07Speaker 2: You gotta I want you to answer. Calvin and I
- 32:09Speaker 2: have a follow up question on.
- 32:11Speaker 5: Porn, Okay, I I would definitely say that I feel
- 32:17Speaker 5: that porn has had a negative impact on just the
- 32:22Speaker 5: stigma around sex as it is, especially in a Western,
- 32:27Speaker 5: a Western civilization, sex is something that is not openly
- 32:31Speaker 5: talked about as much as like European countries or stuff
- 32:35Speaker 5: like that, and so people go to the Internet to
- 32:37Speaker 5: try and find especially when you're younger, trying to find
- 32:41Speaker 5: some answers or something, Yeah, some answers of what this is.
- 32:44Speaker 5: And then a lot of times.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Like you know, saying it it.
- 32:48Speaker 5: It affects the confidence of an individual to have meaningful
- 32:54Speaker 5: intimate interactions, whether it's having a conversation with a girl
- 32:58Speaker 5: or just you know, being in in the bedroom. And
- 33:01Speaker 5: I think that it definitely you look at it from
- 33:03Speaker 5: a scientific standpoint, the dopamine and all the different negative
- 33:07Speaker 5: effects that it has on our brain is definitely damaging.
- 33:12Speaker 5: And so I think even to his point of, you know,
- 33:16Speaker 5: it's been five months, I think that especially when you
- 33:19Speaker 5: are in a healthy relationship, that that hopefully would not
- 33:23Speaker 5: be present the same time, I'm not here to tell
- 33:26Speaker 5: someone do or don't watch porn or what you want
- 33:29Speaker 5: to do in between your you know yourselves, but I
- 33:32Speaker 5: do think that that should be something that should be
- 33:35Speaker 5: openly talked about in a relationship.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Yeah. Good. I think as a woman, we a lot
- 33:43Speaker 2: of us women just because I've had these conversations with
- 33:45Speaker 2: my friends, have watched it, especially when we first had sex,
- 33:48Speaker 2: and we're like, how is it supposed to look? And
- 33:51Speaker 2: it's it's almost been like, oh, you're supposed to perform,
- 33:54Speaker 2: it's supposed to be this, and you're supposed to make
- 33:56Speaker 2: these noises. Once I finally and like late twenty started
- 34:00Speaker 2: getting in touch with my sexuality and like, okay, what
- 34:02Speaker 2: am I supposed to feel? What do I and really
- 34:04Speaker 2: not focusing on like performance and more like what do
- 34:07Speaker 2: I like? What is my partner like? Then you start
- 34:10Speaker 2: then it's way more enjoyable and it doesn't look like
- 34:14Speaker 2: I mean sometimes if you're having a wild night, it
- 34:16Speaker 2: can look like the porn.
- 34:18Speaker 1: But like I read have did you ever watch it
- 34:20Speaker 1: with your partner? Like my ex and I used to
- 34:22Speaker 1: watch porn and be like all right, let's try.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Yeah I never turned out the same, but boy did
- 34:27Speaker 3: we give an effort.
- 34:28Speaker 4: What about like making your own porn and watching that
- 34:30Speaker 4: with a partner because.
- 34:31Speaker 2: That's a good time, that's fun, which is well, it
- 34:36Speaker 2: will get it cam Cord. Yeah, so yeah, I think
- 34:46Speaker 2: that for me, I've said it on the podcast before.
- 34:48Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a big fan of porn only
- 34:51Speaker 2: because now being thirty three, I watch it and my
- 34:53Speaker 2: first thought is like, I hope that woman is doing
- 34:56Speaker 2: it out of choice and like she's happy, and if
- 34:58Speaker 2: she makes just like one out of it, yeah, like
- 35:01Speaker 2: one sad. Look, I'm like, oh, someone needs.
- 35:03Speaker 3: To get I know.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah, so I'm watching porn.
- 35:10Speaker 3: Sometimes you just like.
- 35:11Speaker 4: A house in the valley. I don't know, I can't
- 35:14Speaker 4: really tell where it is.
- 35:15Speaker 5: Last last thing I will say about that, I do
- 35:17Speaker 5: feel that now more than ever, it definitely has the industry.
- 35:23Speaker 5: The sex industry has definitely allowed individuals that do want
- 35:27Speaker 5: to participate a more a safer place to do that
- 35:32Speaker 5: and to you know, whether it's through only fans or
- 35:35Speaker 5: whether it's through I'm not shouting out any you know,
- 35:38Speaker 5: sites or anything, but like to be able to do
- 35:40Speaker 5: your own content and do stuff within your own comfort
- 35:43Speaker 5: and like to your point of, well, I hope she's
- 35:46Speaker 5: all right and she's not doing this out of you know, Oh,
- 35:48Speaker 5: I have to like it allows them that ability to
- 35:51Speaker 5: do it on their own.
- 35:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:52Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great point. Okay, the good one.
- 36:00Speaker 2: What are your ex when dating a woman or let's say,
- 36:05Speaker 2: when dating or looking at a potential partner meetings?
- 36:10Speaker 1: An it for me is like somebody who is trying
- 36:13Speaker 1: to be like too much, Like you're loud, you try
- 36:19Speaker 1: to insert yourself in conversations all the time. Like I
- 36:22Speaker 1: like a quiet, confident woman. So my ach is like
- 36:25Speaker 1: just like a very loud girl.
- 36:28Speaker 2: That's right, Women, shut up, you don't deserve to be speaking.
- 36:31Speaker 3: You don't just kidding, thank you, you got it. I
- 36:35Speaker 3: feel like just that's it.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Just like that's for men too, Like I just don't
- 36:39Speaker 1: like loud, but like that's just my IgG But like
- 36:42Speaker 1: for me, like that, I just like.
- 36:44Speaker 3: Confidence and confidence walks silent.
- 36:46Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, like the one the obnoxious
- 36:48Speaker 2: A little.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Like an obnoxious quirky if you want to put it
- 36:53Speaker 1: that way, Like I that's my itch is a quirky personality.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Do you say quirky? No?
- 36:58Speaker 3: I think is quirky quirky first quirky? Or you say
- 37:03Speaker 3: c O r k y q U A r k
- 37:06Speaker 3: y or q u R quirky quirky. I think we're
- 37:11Speaker 3: both words.
- 37:12Speaker 4: I say quirky like I'm a quirked up white boy.
- 37:15Speaker 3: You know. It's like I'm going off.
- 37:17Speaker 1: Like one like video I saw and the kid is like,
- 37:21Speaker 1: he goes, I'm quirky and the dad goes shut up,
- 37:26Speaker 1: and that's you and I don't. I just I don't
- 37:29Speaker 1: like a quirky personality. It's an it for me, no
- 37:31Speaker 1: matter what gender you are. Yeah, but yeah, that's my
- 37:34Speaker 1: egg is quirky.
- 37:36Speaker 4: There you go, he hates some quirk.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I got one.
- 37:39Speaker 5: Yeah, hygiene, I feel like that should just be.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Hygiene is probably my number one.
- 37:48Speaker 4: Okay, And what do you.
- 37:49Speaker 2: Do you mean all of it? Do you mean oral
- 37:51Speaker 2: oral hygiene?
- 37:53Speaker 6: No?
- 37:54Speaker 3: I got where you're going from. I I like, I
- 37:57Speaker 3: like a woman that spells takes care of it. Soft skin,
- 38:01Speaker 3: soft skin. I like a girl who takes an hour
- 38:03Speaker 3: routine for bad you like that. I like the one
- 38:05Speaker 3: going to bed with all the all the oil. Yeah,
- 38:08Speaker 3: because then sometimes.
- 38:10Speaker 2: If you don't look like a snail on your face
- 38:13Speaker 2: before bed, ladies, you're not doing it right right.
- 38:16Speaker 3: That was my favorite thing with my ex.
- 38:17Speaker 1: She just was in bed watching like a TV show
- 38:20Speaker 1: just with nighttime routine, just soaking.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Wet on her face. Just look like shell. Okay, very hygiene, yeah, okay,
- 38:28Speaker 2: that's number one. If bad hygiene, it's like a turn
- 38:31Speaker 2: off the ten.
- 38:32Speaker 5: It bread like breath, oh breath bo I'm just I
- 38:36Speaker 5: can't fourteen girl.
- 38:39Speaker 3: With bad breath.
- 38:41Speaker 5: I have a very sensitive snaz. I have a bloodhound.
- 38:44Speaker 5: Can't do it.
- 38:44Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I love that. I'm Hygiene's number one for sure.
- 38:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I gotta go off on that as well.
- 38:50Speaker 4: Like my type is a girl that looks like she
- 38:51Speaker 4: smells good. We've talked about this, Like ideally I.
- 38:56Speaker 1: Felt that I'm not kidding you, I've looked across and
- 38:59Speaker 1: seen a girl and I'm like, I know, she smells good.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Wait, this is interesting. Looks like she smells looks like she.
- 39:06Speaker 4: Smells good, like looks like she's gonna I'm gonna walk
- 39:07Speaker 4: over and smell like candy. Maybe not candy, you know,
- 39:10Speaker 4: maybe a moment loral, maybe like a floral and nice
- 39:14Speaker 4: like spring mist spring miss.
- 39:16Speaker 2: We're talking back and body.
- 39:17Speaker 4: Works, talking about the virus. I'm a simple guy, number
- 39:21Speaker 4: six on the rag. But like same thing, like hygien
- 39:25Speaker 4: anything also goes into just like taking care of yourself.
- 39:28Speaker 4: Like you know, we're all at the age they were
- 39:30Speaker 4: at right now, not old, just regular.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Yeah, regular.
- 39:34Speaker 2: You know we're young, we're young.
- 39:35Speaker 4: Young, yeah, but like I take care of myself, you know,
- 39:38Speaker 4: like I like general health and wellness and so like
- 39:41Speaker 4: I drink, I do drugs, I do everything. Not right now,
- 39:43Speaker 4: I'm taking a month off Congress for me.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Bro holds up.
- 39:50Speaker 2: He's like where the fucking snaps?
- 39:52Speaker 4: Like like I like someone that's like healthy takes care
- 39:54Speaker 4: of themselves, you know, like I've done the whole thing
- 39:56Speaker 4: where like my partner just want to like smoke weed
- 39:58Speaker 4: all day and just like order like pizza and chicken
- 40:00Speaker 4: nuggets and like we're off that, you know what I mean.
- 40:03Speaker 4: So like someone that like takes care of themselves. I
- 40:05Speaker 4: think hygiene goes in with that. I also, this is
- 40:08Speaker 4: just a personal pep beeve. I don't like the smell
- 40:10Speaker 4: of wine on somebody's skin, on their skin.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Like bathing like skin.
- 40:17Speaker 4: Like if you drink enough wine, like I can like
- 40:19Speaker 4: smell it through, you can your body.
- 40:22Speaker 1: Bottles are hanging out with three bottle VICKI people wine.
- 40:28Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. I don't know if
- 40:29Speaker 4: it's like how I've gotten to this point, but like
- 40:32Speaker 4: they're very specific. Itck And I'm not going to tell
- 40:34Speaker 4: everyone to stop chricken wine because everybody loves wines.
- 40:36Speaker 3: Don't drink too much around this man, don't chicken around me,
- 40:38Speaker 3: you know, stop hanging out.
- 40:42Speaker 4: It's like some natty orange wine. We're in La, you
- 40:44Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's some efferves and biodynamic, a
- 40:47Speaker 4: little crunchy little to it, you know what I mean,
- 40:49Speaker 4: pulling up a cho you know. But I don't know.
- 40:52Speaker 4: That's like a personal thing generally, just like taking care
- 40:54Speaker 4: of yourself is very important to me and to like
- 40:56Speaker 4: I think to Easton's point before, like you want a
- 40:59Speaker 4: woman to be your piece. You know, that's a very
- 41:01Speaker 4: cliche statement, but like when it comes to the whole,
- 41:03Speaker 4: like it's not like you're not looking for a quiet
- 41:05Speaker 4: woman who's no. Yeah, of course, but you're looking for
- 41:07Speaker 4: someone to find some like some comfort and to find
- 41:10Speaker 4: some peace and to be able to relax around them
- 41:12Speaker 4: and have not everything be a big deal or everything
- 41:15Speaker 4: be like a fighter stuff.
- 41:17Speaker 3: Yeah. No, thank you for saying that you got me.
- 41:20Speaker 1: No you for clarifying mine at somebody would have taken it.
- 41:24Speaker 4: And also, just like good.
- 41:25Speaker 2: Taste, bad taste, in style.
- 41:28Speaker 4: In style, in esthetic, in appearance. We've joked about this before,
- 41:31Speaker 4: but like, I hate when a like a girl's Instagram story,
- 41:35Speaker 4: as fucked up as that is, will turn me off
- 41:37Speaker 4: of her.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Really he's attracted to like an Instagram page.
- 41:42Speaker 3: I was like, I'm attracted to what's on the page.
- 41:44Speaker 3: I don't care what the page looks like.
- 41:46Speaker 4: I'm a very aesthetic visual person. I went to school
- 41:48Speaker 4: for like video photographer. I used to be a photographer,
- 41:50Speaker 4: and so like, art and design is very important in
- 41:53Speaker 4: my life, and so it would only make sense that
- 41:55Speaker 4: it's important in what I look for in a partner
- 41:57Speaker 4: that they have a similar eye. So like, if you
- 41:59Speaker 4: post Instagram story it's got some weird border around it,
- 42:02Speaker 4: Go bye, bit I'm out you like, Yeah, that's like
- 42:07Speaker 4: a zoom out, like a little twist.
- 42:09Speaker 3: He has no other line.
- 42:10Speaker 2: But you better stop zooming out with that twist, ladies
- 42:15Speaker 2: and get eli.
- 42:17Speaker 4: You have a twist in the never.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Mind in the bedroom. Chee likes a little grabbing twists,
- 42:21Speaker 2: but not on the inter.
- 42:23Speaker 4: Not on the Instagram story?
- 42:24Speaker 2: Are you all three of you? You meet? Ten out
- 42:27Speaker 2: of ten? Woman looks pretend your single here, Calvin looks
- 42:31Speaker 2: personality ten out of ten. You go on her Instagram page,
- 42:35Speaker 2: It is all selfies on the main grid. How do
- 42:37Speaker 2: we feel?
- 42:37Speaker 4: Don't care at all?
- 42:38Speaker 2: Love it all selfies, no friends, no nothing.
- 42:40Speaker 3: You want to know what I look for? If I
- 42:42Speaker 3: if I go to like.
- 42:43Speaker 1: Your Instagram page and I go to your tags photos,
- 42:46Speaker 1: then you have none.
- 42:48Speaker 3: That's when I know you're sketchy.
- 42:49Speaker 1: Red flag, red flag for sure, because you don't whoever
- 42:52Speaker 1: has posted you. You don't like the way you look
- 42:54Speaker 1: in that post, so it's not on your page, but
- 42:56Speaker 1: you don't want anybody to see it.
- 42:58Speaker 2: That team.
- 42:59Speaker 1: So if I go to with girls page, yeah, and
- 43:01Speaker 1: I go to her tag photos and there's none, I
- 43:04Speaker 1: don't trust you.
- 43:07Speaker 4: Not only with what they're doing wrong.
- 43:08Speaker 7: It's how they're with, how they look at what they're doing,
- 43:11Speaker 7: where they out partying.
- 43:12Speaker 3: You know, they could tell.
- 43:13Speaker 7: You, oh, I'm at home doing whatever, chill oh, but
- 43:16Speaker 7: their friend tags them on Instagram.
- 43:17Speaker 3: They're out at there. You get you know, I don't know,
- 43:22Speaker 3: I like it, you don't care. I love his line
- 43:26Speaker 3: is Instagram? What are you talking about?
- 43:29Speaker 4: Confident?
- 43:30Speaker 3: Bad bitch on Instagram?
- 43:31Speaker 4: You got an Instagram full of pictures of you? That
- 43:33Speaker 4: means you like you. I love an ego. I love
- 43:35Speaker 4: self confidence.
- 43:35Speaker 3: That's but I love an ego with friends.
- 43:37Speaker 4: And like, we're also in an age where, like especially
- 43:39Speaker 4: in La, everyone kind of has a personal brand. So
- 43:41Speaker 4: if that tag photo doesn't fit in your personal brand
- 43:44Speaker 4: that you're working on, fuck it. Keep it off the page.
- 43:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the different brand.
- 43:48Speaker 4: How about you calls a woman?
- 43:50Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what do you feel? You go on the page.
- 43:52Speaker 2: It's all selfies, every single one, not a single one
- 43:56Speaker 2: that's of a sunset or your friend.
- 43:58Speaker 3: So I'm exposing myself.
- 44:00Speaker 5: I don't think I have on Yeah, well I but
- 44:04Speaker 5: that's also I mean there's reasons.
- 44:08Speaker 3: It's your portrait.
- 44:09Speaker 5: It's not like it has gone, it's it's undergone. Many
- 44:13Speaker 5: different stages stages, yes, and there was a point where
- 44:18Speaker 5: it was okay, you know, friends and this and that,
- 44:20Speaker 5: and then you know, it turned to more okay, strictly modeling,
- 44:24Speaker 5: and then you know, more reality TV and then now
- 44:26Speaker 5: like acting and so it's gone through these stages, and
- 44:29Speaker 5: especially when branding, I think that it's important to to
- 44:34Speaker 5: say does this line up with my brand?
- 44:36Speaker 3: And yeah?
- 44:37Speaker 5: I think that especially for me, is where I am like,
- 44:40Speaker 5: I love my stories and I can post on my stories.
- 44:43Speaker 5: I post my friends and all these different things on
- 44:45Speaker 5: my stories.
- 44:46Speaker 3: So I think that wouldn't.
- 44:48Speaker 5: Be as big of a red flag for me if
- 44:51Speaker 5: there was just selfies and just stuff of them. But
- 44:54Speaker 5: I'd definitely be interested in, you know, their stories, their
- 44:58Speaker 5: highlights and even talk to them like you.
- 45:01Speaker 3: I don't do that. Yeah, I don't know how this is.
- 45:04Speaker 2: You have a great grid. It is a lot of you, Calvin,
- 45:07Speaker 2: but it's not all of you. No, you have like
- 45:09Speaker 2: artsy like.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Oh that's true that you know some detailed shots.
- 45:13Speaker 2: Detail shots people give you justin Bieber, I bet for looks.
- 45:17Speaker 2: Huh yeah, come on, are you joking this photo?
- 45:21Speaker 4: Let's see that's Beabs right.
- 45:24Speaker 3: In the trap. Bro. That really is.
- 45:26Speaker 2: I was like, why do you have Justin Bieber on
- 45:28Speaker 2: your grid?
- 45:28Speaker 3: Oh that's a huge believe.
- 45:32Speaker 2: Are you kidding? This is Bieber? Okay, anyway, go to
- 45:35Speaker 2: Calvin on the.
- 45:35Speaker 4: Path if you want to check out I'm looking for
- 45:38Speaker 4: I'm looking for Calvin and all my girls.
- 45:40Speaker 2: You know, you're looking for a bit of Calvin and
- 45:41Speaker 2: all your bit of short hair. Committed man, he's not
- 45:47Speaker 2: open to a relationship, but you can go gaka. Okay, Okay,
- 45:52Speaker 2: this is a great one. And I love this one
- 45:54Speaker 2: because we talk about it all the time when laws
- 45:56Speaker 2: on here are men intimidated by a woman making more
- 46:01Speaker 2: than them, meaning more money? And how do you guys
- 46:04Speaker 2: each feel about I feel like.
- 46:07Speaker 1: If it's no, I'm not intimidated unless she like keeps
- 46:11Speaker 1: fucking pinning it against me.
- 46:14Speaker 2: Using it against you.
- 46:15Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Like if you belittle me because of it,
- 46:18Speaker 3: then y'all I'll have a problem.
- 46:19Speaker 1: But I don't have a problem with somebody making more
- 46:21Speaker 1: money than me, like my significant other, not at.
- 46:24Speaker 2: All, okay, And it's not going to make you feel
- 46:27Speaker 2: like lesser than threatened or she suggests like let's say
- 46:32Speaker 2: you guys have a kid, and she goes can you
- 46:34Speaker 2: I make the money? Can you stay home maybe and
- 46:36Speaker 2: be a state of dream?
- 46:37Speaker 4: What a fu dam that would.
- 46:39Speaker 2: Be just like but you got it, Like I need
- 46:41Speaker 2: food ready when I come home, Like this is me
- 46:44Speaker 2: just like a housewife, a house husband. Yeah you're down,
- 46:48Speaker 2: but then your passions, I don't know, I'm taking it
- 46:51Speaker 2: really far him No.
- 46:52Speaker 3: I mean no, honestly, I would.
- 46:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't mind doing that because I would like,
- 46:57Speaker 1: I would do whatever the I had to do if
- 47:00Speaker 1: we had kids, school and every time, like in my
- 47:03Speaker 1: free time, I would try to find something that I
- 47:05Speaker 1: was passionate about to follow to make money.
- 47:07Speaker 3: And yeah, I wouldn't mind.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Okay, that's great.
- 47:11Speaker 3: I would just try. I just would have to do
- 47:12Speaker 3: something for me. But I don't care.
- 47:15Speaker 2: I love this generation of men. But let's hear your answers,
- 47:18Speaker 2: because I feel like anyway, go ahead.
- 47:21Speaker 5: I think that especially when it comes to marriage or
- 47:24Speaker 5: in a relationship, it's like it's ours, like we're building
- 47:28Speaker 5: something together. It's an empire that we're building, and so
- 47:32Speaker 5: what needs to be done needs to be done. And
- 47:34Speaker 5: so it's like, yeah, hey, if you're having this run
- 47:37Speaker 5: of success and you're going off, you're going crazy, I'm
- 47:41Speaker 5: here for you. What do we need and let's boom
- 47:42Speaker 5: boom boom, and then it's I think this even outside
- 47:46Speaker 5: of just relationships, but like friendships, it's like, hey, you know,
- 47:49Speaker 5: if someone in your circle is winning, you're winning, and
- 47:53Speaker 5: so they're winning, they pull you up, you win, you
- 47:56Speaker 5: pull them up, and so you do what needs to
- 47:58Speaker 5: be done.
- 47:59Speaker 3: I do think it isn't.
- 48:00Speaker 5: Important, though, to not lose one's identity, is to have
- 48:03Speaker 5: those passions and to be able to say, hey, I
- 48:06Speaker 5: can do this for you one. These are the things
- 48:08Speaker 5: that are important to me that I want to continue
- 48:10Speaker 5: on while you are like a given to Yeah, while
- 48:15Speaker 5: you're while you're going off on all these things, I'm
- 48:17Speaker 5: here to support.
- 48:18Speaker 3: What do you need?
- 48:19Speaker 5: This is what I need and as long as you
- 48:21Speaker 5: communicate on that properly then.
- 48:23Speaker 1: Because after Eli answers, I do, I want to ask
- 48:26Speaker 1: you the add on of it.
- 48:27Speaker 2: Okay, and that's not health baby, right, thank you, thank you, Eli.
- 48:33Speaker 4: Great question?
- 48:34Speaker 3: Is everybody I have to make more than her? No?
- 48:38Speaker 4: I mean model, So my type besides women that look
- 48:41Speaker 4: like they smell good, are women that are out of
- 48:43Speaker 4: my league. It just is what it is, and I
- 48:46Speaker 4: don't think that's worked out for me in the past.
- 48:47Speaker 4: But just like it is what.
- 48:48Speaker 1: It is, Like you like chasing a girl that's like
- 48:50Speaker 1: got her shit together, chaotic.
- 48:53Speaker 4: But I like girls that are better than me and
- 48:56Speaker 4: so naturally, especially where we live in LA like they're
- 49:00Speaker 4: probably going to make more money than me potentially, Like
- 49:02Speaker 4: I don't struggle. I do fine. But thus if you're
- 49:04Speaker 4: out of mit, then you're really fucking crushing it, you
- 49:06Speaker 4: know what I mean, right, And so that is not
- 49:08Speaker 4: a turn off for me. I think you just need
- 49:10Speaker 4: transparency and communication because it could be a problem for them.
- 49:14Speaker 4: And like to pretend like I'm gonna like stunt and
- 49:17Speaker 4: like throw all this money around the first few dates
- 49:19Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna lie. I Also I like to spend.
- 49:22Speaker 4: I like I love, I blow a bag on a date.
- 49:25Speaker 3: He blows. I don't go on anything.
- 49:28Speaker 4: It means money by first Like we've talked about first
- 49:30Speaker 4: dates before and I'm always like I want to sit
- 49:32Speaker 4: across from your dinner and like it's going to cost
- 49:34Speaker 4: some money, and it costs money to date women.
- 49:37Speaker 3: I've got the jet and like going it costs money.
- 49:40Speaker 4: It costs money.
- 49:41Speaker 3: It is what it is.
- 49:41Speaker 4: And we've talked about like dating apps and people being like, oh,
- 49:43Speaker 4: I'll never like buy a rose on hinge and I'm like,
- 49:47Speaker 4: fuck it, I'll buy a rose. It's cheaper than a drink.
- 49:49Speaker 4: You know what it costs money to date? Period?
- 49:51Speaker 3: What the hell is going on?
- 49:53Speaker 2: What do you mean Kyle just spent on roses? Please? King?
- 49:57Speaker 4: Absolute kid, no issue with that.
- 50:00Speaker 1: I've never had a dating app, so I don't know
- 50:02Speaker 1: what dating app a woman that, a woman that I'm
- 50:05Speaker 1: pursuing is worth more than two ninety nine on that
- 50:07Speaker 1: rose on hinge?
- 50:08Speaker 3: So like, who cared to nine?
- 50:11Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? But you walk up to her,
- 50:12Speaker 4: go to bar? You're gonna spend eighteen bucks in La
- 50:15Speaker 4: on a drink doing that?
- 50:16Speaker 3: Either.
- 50:16Speaker 2: It's a great question, do you guys all?
- 50:18Speaker 3: I'd me in the corner.
- 50:19Speaker 4: Baby.
- 50:19Speaker 2: You go on a first date and she goes, oh
- 50:22Speaker 2: I'll pay for this, No, not have it.
- 50:24Speaker 4: I just can't even it just isn't. I'm not. My
- 50:26Speaker 4: body's not gonna allow that to happen, even on like
- 50:28Speaker 4: the second and third date when she's like, oh I
- 50:30Speaker 4: got it this time, and I'm like okay, cool, And
- 50:33Speaker 4: then the guy comes with the bill and I just
- 50:35Speaker 4: physically can't even if I'm like.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Hold on, if a girl, If a girl offers to pay,
- 50:40Speaker 1: where's her head at?
- 50:41Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like?
- 50:42Speaker 3: Are you paying?
- 50:43Speaker 2: Like first date? You you know it's a date. You
- 50:46Speaker 2: said let's go first, to pay for me the first day,
- 50:48Speaker 2: and she goes, I got this one, but she's doing
- 50:51Speaker 2: the reach you have.
- 50:52Speaker 1: You have the opportunity, but like where why are you paying?
- 50:56Speaker 2: Because she's like, oh, you know like him?
- 50:58Speaker 1: If you if she pays for me, I feel like
- 51:01Speaker 1: I have to take her to another on another date.
- 51:03Speaker 2: Okay, but she goes. You guys decided, like a girl.
- 51:06Speaker 3: Splits, isn't that the goals to take another date? If
- 51:09Speaker 3: I don't like her and get out? This one's on me, sweetheart?
- 51:12Speaker 4: Down the line, it's reasonable to be splitting. And at
- 51:15Speaker 4: some point, you know, show by offers.
- 51:17Speaker 3: If a girl offers to split, I won't make her pay.
- 51:20Speaker 1: If a girl doesn't offer to split, make her you're
- 51:23Speaker 1: gonna sit there in silence and right on the.
- 51:25Speaker 2: First date though first date, I'm talking first date.
- 51:29Speaker 4: What I'm paying the point of money I'm paying because
- 51:33Speaker 4: I'm usually the one asking.
- 51:34Speaker 1: If a girl asked me to go out I'd like
- 51:36Speaker 1: for her to offer to pay.
- 51:38Speaker 2: For me, okay, for the first but are you going
- 51:40Speaker 2: to allow it? Okay? She goes to do the reach.
- 51:42Speaker 2: You go no, no, no, I got this.
- 51:44Speaker 1: No, I want to be asked or I want her
- 51:46Speaker 1: to offer to pay. Yeah, if she asked me out,
- 51:49Speaker 1: but I won't allow it.
- 51:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 51:51Speaker 4: It's a gesture.
- 51:51Speaker 3: It's a gesture. It's like when you get cut off
- 51:53Speaker 3: in traffic and they give you a wave. You're good.
- 51:56Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm a pro at the gester girl. Oh,
- 51:58Speaker 2: I got it?
- 51:59Speaker 4: A gesture?
- 52:01Speaker 1: All right, George Costanza, I got one here for you guys.
- 52:04Speaker 3: I'm gonna switch us up.
- 52:05Speaker 4: Okay.
- 52:05Speaker 7: First date, she offers to pay, and you know you're
- 52:08Speaker 7: not gonna go on another day with her.
- 52:10Speaker 3: No, I'm paying for her because then I'm not an answer.
- 52:12Speaker 2: That's a good question.
- 52:13Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, say it again, say it again.
- 52:15Speaker 7: All right, first date she offers to pay, but you
- 52:18Speaker 7: already know the date's not going well, you're not gonna
- 52:20Speaker 7: go on a second with this person?
- 52:21Speaker 2: And it is.
- 52:24Speaker 3: Oh, if we're at Craigs, I'm like, sweetheart, Yes.
- 52:27Speaker 2: Four hundred dollars, we'll go to split it.
- 52:30Speaker 1: No, if I'm not doing it, and then I'd probably
- 52:33Speaker 1: say I'm gonna do something really special for you, and
- 52:37Speaker 1: that special thing is I'm gonna way out of here again.
- 52:40Speaker 3: Casper the Friendly Ghost isn't so hold on.
- 52:44Speaker 2: And she's into it. She thinks she's gonna see you. Guy.
- 52:46Speaker 2: You know you're gonna text her and say you're not
- 52:48Speaker 2: the vibe. You're gonna let her pay.
- 52:49Speaker 3: I need to get the better I really am.
- 52:52Speaker 1: I'm Casper the Friendly Ghost. We're getting better at it.
- 52:57Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to make some amends for sure her.
- 53:00Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you guys.
- 53:04Speaker 3: Though I don't get better everybody, I'll get better.
- 53:07Speaker 4: I do generally think the point of money is to
- 53:09Speaker 4: spend it on beautiful women. I've said that in the past,
- 53:11Speaker 4: and just like, like like money that I spend on dating,
- 53:16Speaker 4: I don't even put in my fucking budget, Like that's
- 53:18Speaker 4: just like that's just come. That's just extra money, like
- 53:21Speaker 4: I hope I have it, but like I don't even
- 53:23Speaker 4: factor that into what I'm spending throughout the week.
- 53:24Speaker 2: Your d are about to be blowing up.
- 53:27Speaker 1: I know it's I'm gonna get a meal and not
- 53:29Speaker 1: even have to lay them.
- 53:31Speaker 4: That's the cost of life. You know what it is?
- 53:34Speaker 2: Cost of life? Hell yeah, hell yeah.
- 53:37Speaker 4: If she offers to pay and I'm not gonna see
- 53:39Speaker 4: her again, I probably still can't even do it because
- 53:40Speaker 4: she's gonna tell her friends. And I'm a broke motherfucker.
- 53:42Speaker 2: I can't have it.
- 53:42Speaker 4: Mad At it's too small for that. Don't have anyone.
- 53:46Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'd say no, and then I'd say I'm
- 53:49Speaker 3: gonna go to the restroom. When I cast for out there,
- 53:52Speaker 3: you reach, you reach for your person.
- 53:55Speaker 7: I can see Easton just going up paying the bill
- 53:57Speaker 7: and then just walking out the door.
- 53:59Speaker 3: Jokes. Is a good guy. That's cool?
- 54:02Speaker 4: Hey the bill from a distance, And.
- 54:03Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not. I don't know. I'm a good guy
- 54:05Speaker 3: in my eyes. You need to get better.
- 54:07Speaker 2: You're the best guy.
- 54:08Speaker 1: They've just talk to me. I do need to get better.
- 54:10Speaker 1: And not like ghosting women.
- 54:12Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, is it what is considered ghosting?
- 54:15Speaker 3: Just not co responding? Ever, But if you're.
- 54:19Speaker 4: Talking to someone on a dating app you never met,
- 54:21Speaker 4: conversation fizzles out, did you ghost that person?
- 54:24Speaker 2: Depends on, in my opinion, how long a conversation. If
- 54:26Speaker 2: you guys have been talking every day for two weeks
- 54:29Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you disappear, I'd say, oh,
- 54:31Speaker 2: poor man has passed away.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the only reason I'm dead to many
- 54:35Speaker 3: a women. Then hit by carstro I'm dead many a
- 54:39Speaker 3: women two weeks.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Every day you're checking it.
- 54:43Speaker 4: I wouldn't even let it get to that point, though,
- 54:44Speaker 4: if we're not.
- 54:45Speaker 3: Using the Calvin's disgusted face.
- 54:47Speaker 1: If I am going to get better at it in
- 54:49Speaker 1: Duke Tom, but I am not good at it now,
- 54:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better at it step by step, not ghosting. Yeah,
- 54:57Speaker 1: but sometimes I get I don't know, yeah, you know
- 55:01Speaker 1: you like.
- 55:01Speaker 2: What were you saying about the app? You wouldn't let
- 55:03Speaker 2: it get to that.
- 55:03Speaker 4: Why I don't do like pen pals on dating apps.
- 55:06Speaker 4: So like I'm actually not on dating apps right now
- 55:08Speaker 4: at all. Which is.
- 55:11Speaker 3: I got a question. Is it bad to just have
- 55:14Speaker 3: like a booty call?
- 55:16Speaker 4: Yes?
- 55:17Speaker 3: Yes, Well here's here's what I'll say.
- 55:19Speaker 5: And this kind of encompasses everything in all of this,
- 55:22Speaker 5: even the question about the who's paying. If you know
- 55:25Speaker 5: you're not gonna like all this can be solved with communication,
- 55:29Speaker 5: if you can just say, hey, listen, here, listen, I
- 55:34Speaker 5: like this, but it's a great restaurant. You know, like
- 55:37Speaker 5: I really don't. I'm not feeling this. You know, you're
- 55:40Speaker 5: a great person. I think it's best if we go
- 55:42Speaker 5: our separate ways. I'll pay, you can pay, We're gonna
- 55:46Speaker 5: split whatever. But like I want you to know, regardless
- 55:49Speaker 5: that the expectations going away from this, I don't want
- 55:51Speaker 5: to leave.
- 55:52Speaker 3: In the dark.
- 55:52Speaker 5: And sometimes it does take a couple of days after
- 55:54Speaker 5: for you to be like, huh, like, let me sit
- 55:56Speaker 5: with this. But I mean, we all if we're trusting
- 55:58Speaker 5: your intuition.
- 56:00Speaker 3: But here's why I kidding.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Guys, Calvin is taken. Do not blow up here.
- 56:04Speaker 3: That's why he's taken though, because of these things.
- 56:06Speaker 1: But how I look at it is like if I
- 56:09Speaker 1: was talking to a girl for like three months and
- 56:11Speaker 1: she just stopped responding, I'd be like, all right, really
- 56:15Speaker 1: and then I just forget.
- 56:16Speaker 3: Yeah, So then I'd do it. I feel like, because
- 56:19Speaker 3: if you do it to me, I don't care. So
- 56:21Speaker 3: I feel like I do it to people because I
- 56:22Speaker 3: feel like everybody doesn't care. But people do care. So
- 56:26Speaker 3: you can ghost me too.
- 56:27Speaker 2: Well, they wonder what they did wrong? Did I say
- 56:30Speaker 2: something wrong?
- 56:31Speaker 3: For me?
- 56:31Speaker 2: If you ghost me, which is never happened me. I go, oh, oh,
- 56:38Speaker 2: he just realized he has terrible taste. I don't want
- 56:41Speaker 2: anything to do with him anyway, But.
- 56:44Speaker 1: That se fix your thing, because nobody did anything. I
- 56:48Speaker 1: just found out that I need to just not talk
- 56:51Speaker 1: to you for a while.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Okay, mental health reasons, but that's good.
- 56:54Speaker 4: I mean your thing about the taste thing. Like I
- 56:56Speaker 4: think everyone in this room, I think maybe is blessed
- 56:58Speaker 4: to have very high self confidence and whatnot. So like,
- 57:02Speaker 4: I like a girl with good taste, and so like,
- 57:03Speaker 4: if you like me, good shit, ye I love that.
- 57:07Speaker 4: And that gets into your question. Another question I've seen
- 57:10Speaker 4: come up of like sex on the first date, right,
- 57:11Speaker 4: like is that a deal breaker?
- 57:13Speaker 2: That's a good question.
- 57:14Speaker 4: I don't necessarily tie sex to morality or ethics at
- 57:17Speaker 4: any point. So like, if I'm on a first date
- 57:19Speaker 4: and a girl and have sex with me, it's not
- 57:21Speaker 4: a bad thing.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Well you say no though, if you're not if you're
- 57:25Speaker 2: into her, but you think, is there ever a time
- 57:28Speaker 2: where you're like, she won't respect me?
- 57:30Speaker 4: I could say that the longest relationships I've had in
- 57:33Speaker 4: the past ten years have been first night sex situation. Really,
- 57:37Speaker 4: and it doesn't change at all how I feel about
- 57:40Speaker 4: that person. If anything, I'm like, I am cool and
- 57:42Speaker 4: you see that. So one good taste. Sorry to sound
- 57:44Speaker 4: like an argon asshole there, but two like it also
- 57:46Speaker 4: gets that out of the way. So then like, if
- 57:48Speaker 4: we know that, if we are moving forward, it's not
- 57:50Speaker 4: just based on lust and I'm not just now just
- 57:53Speaker 4: like playing a role to get to the sex part.
- 57:56Speaker 4: Like we've had sex already and we're still hanging out.
- 58:00Speaker 4: Have sex in the first week.
- 58:01Speaker 2: First week, first week, not date, So.
- 58:03Speaker 1: You're maybe I had so many times, We're going to
- 58:06Speaker 1: see her that week, nothing wrong with having second Why
- 58:08Speaker 1: wait some month and then have sex with him and
- 58:10Speaker 1: be like.
- 58:11Speaker 3: That was terrible?
- 58:12Speaker 5: Well, I also think that the second that the physical
- 58:17Speaker 5: is brought into the relationship, it is harder for the
- 58:20Speaker 5: emotional and that connection to continue to form because it's
- 58:24Speaker 5: like we're such carnal creatures.
- 58:25Speaker 3: So it's like boom boom. I'm not saying it's right
- 58:27Speaker 3: or wrong for me.
- 58:29Speaker 5: I would prefer at least the first couple of dates
- 58:31Speaker 5: or the first, you know, a couple of weeks of like, hey,
- 58:35Speaker 5: let me really get to know who you are, and
- 58:37Speaker 5: you know, maybe we.
- 58:38Speaker 3: Do, maybe we don't but some blue balls for the week.
- 58:41Speaker 5: I'm not throwing it out the first the first date
- 58:44Speaker 5: generally swinging, would I know, swinging the old bat of me.
- 58:49Speaker 2: That's great. No, that's great. Two each is.
- 58:51Speaker 3: Out, so Calvin week or two Eli first night.
- 58:56Speaker 4: But like I'm also I'm not going to be mad
- 58:58Speaker 4: at going sex the first night. You know, that's totally fine.
- 59:07Speaker 4: I'm a bad guy.
- 59:09Speaker 2: We know, okay really quick because it's so good as dudes.
- 59:14Speaker 2: How do you guys support each other's mental health to
- 59:16Speaker 2: make sure.
- 59:16Speaker 1: You're okay, just being there for homies and not just listening,
- 59:22Speaker 1: not being an asshole like I said, Like, it's how people.
- 59:25Speaker 3: React to your emotion. So when they get emotional, I become.
- 59:31Speaker 1: You know, docile for them because I'm gonna take it
- 59:35Speaker 1: all in. So I got homies that listen, that take
- 59:38Speaker 1: on the energy that I'm giving so they can give
- 59:40Speaker 1: the same type of response. So my homies are close.
- 59:43Speaker 1: I've cried to them, They've cried to me. So I
- 59:46Speaker 1: just keep homies that I can be honest with and
- 59:48Speaker 1: emotional with. From that, I get bye, Yeah.
- 59:52Speaker 2: People, you can trust you guys.
- 59:54Speaker 4: Just checking in with the homies. Really, I mean I
- 59:56Speaker 4: could do a better job for sure of opening up
- 59:58Speaker 4: to my friends. I'm pretty guarded. I would say.
- 1:00:01Speaker 5: I think it's important not only to just ask your friends, hey,
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: are you okay, because you're gonna get the good oh yeah,
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: I'm good, but to take that initiative and say, like, hey,
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: what's going on in your life? And you know, get
- 1:00:15Speaker 5: get underneath it, because a lot of times it is,
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: even even with our best friends, it's such a ah
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: yeah I'm good man, I'm chilling.
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: But like I mean, just go deeper, go deeper and
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: keep asking.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really great. I love you, guys.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: I thank you so much. I'm gonna let Easton close
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: us out, but thank you guys for doing this.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Boys, is there anywhere that these people can find you?
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: You can hit me up on. I g I'm not
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: popping by any means, but and what is that? I
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: g underscore Eli Benjamin, but let's make me popping.
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: We'll tag you, Calvin.
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: I know I pluged yours, but yes, my Instagram is
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: at Calvin on the cob.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: Hey you there, you're there.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much, and thank you for
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: giving up no, and thank you for listening to the
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Give Them Lola podcast.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: This episode will be out on Wednesday.
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- 1:01:12Speaker 4: Bye Fe.