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Credlin | 7 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Kreblin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good Eving, Welcome to the show tonight, Monday, the seventh
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Speaker 2: of October, and it's a tough day for our Jewish
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Speaker 2: friends here in Australia, but also around the world. It's
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Speaker 2: a tough day too for anyone who loves this country
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Speaker 2: and cherishes its values. To fear for where we're headed
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Speaker 2: unless we all stand against division and hate.
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Speaker 3: Here's what's coming up today on Kredlin.
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Speaker 2: One year on from the October seven atrocities, will cross
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Speaker 2: live to a Melbourne community event where tonight over five
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Speaker 2: thousand people are gathering and a mass show of support
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Speaker 2: for Australia's Jewish community. Tony Abbott will join me live
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Speaker 2: from the Israeli Embassy in Canberra, but his reflections of
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Speaker 2: what this past year says about us as a country
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Speaker 2: and also what's ahead as concerns maut over Iran's growing
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Speaker 2: nuclear capability. Plus live to Jerusalem. We'll talk to my
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Speaker 2: colleague Sharry Markson as Israel tries to mourn it's dead
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Speaker 2: and defend living all at the same time, and despite
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Speaker 2: pleas from the Jewish community and somewhat weaker words from
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Speaker 2: our authorities. Pro Palestine activists hit the streets over the
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Speaker 2: weekend and in a sign of absolute disrespect, tonight a
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Speaker 2: large protest will go ahead at the lakember Mosque in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: This is a movement that is hateful at its core,
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Speaker 3: that never talks about peace and never talks about coexistence,
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Speaker 3: that has never brought.
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Speaker 4: Itself to recognize the right of the Jewish people to
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Speaker 4: a national home in any borders.
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Speaker 5: We have thousands of people potentially on streets in Australia
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Speaker 5: waving flags that look pretty similar to the Hesbela flag.
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Speaker 5: We just don't know at what points this will break
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Speaker 5: into violence.
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Speaker 2: But first, a year ago today I felt devastated as
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Speaker 2: I thought all Australians would at the brutal murder of
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Speaker 2: more than twelve hundred Jewish people and the taking of
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Speaker 2: more than two hundred hostages. The depravity of it all
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Speaker 2: shocked me, as I know it's shocked to you. The
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Speaker 2: gang rapes, the torture, the killing of pregnant women, babies
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Speaker 2: in their womb, things I can't even repeat on television,
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Speaker 2: The things that were filmed by the Hummas terrorists on
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Speaker 2: their body cabras that will stay forever in the mind
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Speaker 2: of anyone who has watched them, it is the single
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Speaker 2: worst attack on Jewish people since the Holocaust. Now, as
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Speaker 2: part of a generation that grew up reading the diaries
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Speaker 2: of Anne Frank, that was taught the horrors of the
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Speaker 2: Nazi death camps as part of the school curriculum, I
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Speaker 2: could not believe this was happening in my lifetime. Imagine
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Speaker 2: then the horror for those in the Jewish community. But
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Speaker 2: if October seven last year was bad, today, in some
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Speaker 2: way is even worse because rather than standing with the
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Speaker 2: brave people that have been persecuted for many millennia, and
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Speaker 2: to stand with the only liberal democracy in the Middle East,
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Speaker 2: too many a Straights are on the side of the murderers,
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Speaker 2: not the victims. I can understand Australians lamenting civilian casualties
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Speaker 2: in a just war, and I can understand Australians too
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Speaker 2: fearing for relatives in war zones. But I find it
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Speaker 2: very very hard to understand who so many Australians seem
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Speaker 2: to be on the side of the death cult width
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Speaker 2: rather than on the side of a country like our
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Speaker 2: own under existential threat in such a troubled part of
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Speaker 2: the world. How can so many recent migrants have brought
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Speaker 2: their hatreds with them, and why haven't we done more
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Speaker 2: as a society to insist that people integrate and adopt
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Speaker 2: Australian values. But let's not kid ourselves that these hatreds
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Speaker 2: are exclusively imported either. We know, and we've seen a
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Speaker 2: play out amongst our young people more and more radicalized here,
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Speaker 2: for these terrorst supporters are homegrown as well. What's wrong
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Speaker 2: with our education system that so many school and university
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Speaker 2: students see the world in terms only of oppressor and oppressed,
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Speaker 2: and see Israel as some sort of colonialist oppressor, even
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Speaker 2: though Jews have been in what's now Israel for more than.
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Speaker 3: Three thousand years.
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Speaker 2: The religion that wants them dead Islam that's only actually
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Speaker 2: been in existence for half of that time, around fourteen
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Speaker 2: hundred years to be precise. In terms of leadership, what's
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Speaker 2: wrong with our national government that they found it so
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Speaker 2: hard to condemn hmasks and back Israel's right to self defense?
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Speaker 2: With Anthony out Albanezi never visiting Israel and Penny Wong
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Speaker 2: refusing to go to the worst massacre site on her
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Speaker 2: one and only trip after October seven, questions too for
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Speaker 2: the UK President, the US President and the UK Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister both urging Israel to de escalate rather than win
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Speaker 2: this existential struggle against the terror groups of the terror
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Speaker 2: state Iran that would wipe them out if they could.
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Speaker 2: Still one year on, there are grounds for optimism, as
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Speaker 2: a Herald poll today shows, despite the numbers demonstrating in
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Speaker 2: favor of terrorism, far more Australian than see the October
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Speaker 2: seven atrocity for what it was, and as we know
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Speaker 2: from the Voice referendum result, the collective common sense of
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Speaker 2: the silent majority is usually far more sound than the
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Speaker 2: noisy minority or the folly of wo corporates and a
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Speaker 2: weak government. What's most reassuring, though, in all of this,
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Speaker 2: is the incredible resilience of the Israeli people, their government,
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Speaker 2: indeed Jewish people the world over. Whatever their internal disagreements,
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Speaker 2: they are utterly united on this the absolute need for
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Speaker 2: Israel to survive and thrive as a haven for Jewish
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Speaker 2: people and as a country where the rule of law
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Speaker 2: applies equally to all, which, as we know in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East, is a rarity. As far as as been
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Speaker 2: humanly possible, the Israeli military has been fastidious about avoiding
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Speaker 2: civilian casualties and have been precise in their targeting.
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Speaker 3: And say what you like.
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Speaker 2: Too about Israel's leader Benjamin Nett Yahoo, but his clear
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Speaker 2: eyed focus on the need to overcome evil has been
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Speaker 2: a lesson for leaders everywhere.
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Speaker 3: If this was your.
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Speaker 2: Country under attack, if this was Australia, you too would
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Speaker 2: want more Churchill than Chamberlain. Because every Jew has a
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Speaker 2: family tree with branches that end abruptly, because eighty years
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Speaker 2: ago the world simply could not comprehend Man's inhumanity and
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Speaker 2: until we open the doors of the death camps, and
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Speaker 2: we witnessed a whole horror that we thought was never
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Speaker 2: again until this time last year. Now, as always, it's
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Speaker 2: a notliner to sit with you in this seat every
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Speaker 2: day as we cover off the things that matter to
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Speaker 2: us in the wider world. But tonight I wish I
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Speaker 2: could do that, but be able to also stand in
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Speaker 2: person at one of the visuals happening tonight as we
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Speaker 2: go to air to show my personal solidarity with all
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Speaker 2: Jewish people around the world on this most difficult of days.
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Speaker 2: I know that many of you watching home at night,
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Speaker 2: I know that you feel the same way too. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's go to Camra Now for the headlines Sky News
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Speaker 2: political reporter Olivia Caisley Good Evening.
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Speaker 6: Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has led tributes to the
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Speaker 6: victims of the October seventh terrorist attack at a on
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Speaker 6: the lawns outside Parliament House. Hundreds gathered as a sign
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Speaker 6: of solidarity with the Jewish community and to speak out
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Speaker 6: against anti Semitism.
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Speaker 7: As Bob Hawk said, if the bell tolls for Israel,
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Speaker 7: it tolls for all mankind.
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Speaker 6: Remembering the twelve hundred lives lost and those still kept captive,
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Speaker 6: mister Abbott, praising Israel's approach, well.
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Speaker 8: We grieve for the dead and we mourn with those
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Speaker 8: for morn. We also admire the courage, the resilience.
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Speaker 6: As Labour fends off political attacks from the left for
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Speaker 6: being too supportive of Israel. Former Labor MP Mike Kelly
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Speaker 6: had this to say.
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Speaker 8: Evil triumphs when good men and women do nothing.
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Speaker 6: Former Liberal Treasurer Josh Breedenberg has spoken out against those
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Speaker 6: marking the one year anniversary with pro Palestinian protests.
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Speaker 9: We need stronger leadership across the board. If we're going
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Speaker 9: to bring a screens together.
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Speaker 6: It comes as terror group Hezbollah praise pro Palestinian and
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Speaker 6: pro Hesbila protests in Australia over the weekend. Iran's Foreign
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Speaker 6: Ministry has admonished Australia's ambassador in Tehran, accusing Australia of
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Speaker 6: a biasstance on Israel. It's the latest diplomatic tit for
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Speaker 6: tat in McConville was summoned on Sunday after last week,
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Speaker 6: Iran's own ambassador to Australia, Armed Saggady, was reprimanded for
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Speaker 6: posting a tribute to the late Hezbola leader Hassan Israela.
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Speaker 2: All right, on this sommer night across much of the country,
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott,
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Speaker 2: live from the Israeli Embassy in Canberra. Tony Abba, thank
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Speaker 2: you for your time tonight. I know we're squeezing you
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Speaker 2: in before a very important commemoration. I want to start
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Speaker 2: with the earlier event you attended today that never again
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Speaker 2: rally out.
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Speaker 3: To the front of Parliament House in Canberra. You address
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Speaker 3: the crowd.
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Speaker 2: What message did you send to them and what was
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Speaker 2: the mood of those there with you?
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Speaker 8: Peter, My message was one of standing insolidarity with Jewish
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Speaker 8: people everywhere and with the State of Israel. I was
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Speaker 8: pleased to be joined by quite a lot of other
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Speaker 8: serving and retired members of Parliament, plus several hundred ordinary
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Speaker 8: Australian citizens. It was great to have Mike Kelly there,
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Speaker 8: representing the Labor Party at its best. I guess my
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Speaker 8: message was that, yes, this is a grim day, but
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Speaker 8: it's also a brave day. Grim because we remember the
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Speaker 8: dead and we mourn with their families, but brave because
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Speaker 8: we see all the efforts that the Israeli government and
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Speaker 8: people are making to defeat their foes, and on this
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Speaker 8: issue they are really fighting for everyone, because the Islamist
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Speaker 8: terror does not discriminate, and if they could, they'd be
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Speaker 8: coming for all of us.
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Speaker 3: I'll get to that big picture at the moment.
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Speaker 2: Just give us a sense of you know, you've led
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Speaker 2: the country before, you know what leadership is, you know
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Speaker 2: how to bring together a fractured community. What do the
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Speaker 2: events of the last twelve months say to you about
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Speaker 2: how this tragedy has played out in Australia. What does
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Speaker 2: it say about us? What does it say about our country?
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Speaker 8: Well, Peter, basically, what it says to me is that
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Speaker 8: there are too many Australians who can't decide what side
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Speaker 8: they're on, as between an apocalyptic terrorist death cult and
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Speaker 8: a liberal democracy. And what that says to me is
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Speaker 8: that we've had inadequate immigration policies and integration policies, we've
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Speaker 8: had inadequate educational systems, and we've.
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Speaker 9: Had suboptimal leadership.
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Speaker 8: Because if our immigration system was running right, we would
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Speaker 8: be stressing that people have to join Team Australia and
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Speaker 8: that means embracing Australian values.
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Speaker 9: If our education systems were running right.
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Speaker 8: We wouldn't be propagating this idea of Israel as some
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Speaker 8: kind of a colonial exploiter. If our leadership was good,
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Speaker 8: it would actually be saying to the Australian public, we
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Speaker 8: know side we're on. But instead of strong leadership, I
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Speaker 8: think what we've had for much of the last twelve
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Speaker 8: months is followership, particularly from some of our senior leaders,
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Speaker 8: who are more worried about Islamists in their electorates than
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Speaker 8: they are about Australia's national interest.
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Speaker 2: But there is a right and wrong, Tony Abit. We
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be backward in saying that there.
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Speaker 7: Is absolutely wrong, completely correct, and this is about as
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Speaker 7: close as things get in this complicated world to good
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Speaker 7: versus evil, you have got an apocalyptic death cult which
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Speaker 7: slaughtered twelve hundred people, brutalized two hundred hostages, which is
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Speaker 7: bent on the extirpation not just of Israel, but ultimately
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Speaker 7: on death to all infidels.
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Speaker 9: That's on the one hand, and.
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Speaker 8: On the other hand, you've got a liberal democracy under
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Speaker 8: the rule of law, where everyone, regardless of his or
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Speaker 8: her religion, has rights. This is not a choice that
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Speaker 8: should be difficult for people, and yet for too many
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Speaker 8: Australians right now it does seem difficult, and some Alas
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Speaker 8: are actually on the wrong side.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 8: I think we need to deal much more firmly with
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Speaker 8: these anti Semitic protests, and I also think that the
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Speaker 8: leadership has to speak out much more strongly on exactly
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Speaker 8: where our interests and our values lie in this particular matter.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just our government here of the left
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Speaker 2: that's been bought and sold. And I heard your reference
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Speaker 2: there to Mike Kelly of the Labor Right, for where
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Speaker 2: Labor was once very strong friends of Israel, that's not
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Speaker 2: the Labor Party we know now. But we see this
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Speaker 2: happening out in the UK. We see it happening also
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Speaker 2: to some degree in the United States. This says a
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Speaker 2: lot about the wider world as much as it says
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Speaker 2: about our values in Australia or the response of Israel.
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Speaker 3: Where do we go to from here?
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Speaker 9: Well, Peter, you're right.
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Speaker 8: I think Israel is, to use a phrase that I
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Speaker 8: think the Board of Deputies used today, Israel is at
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Speaker 8: the pointy end of a civilizational struggle. And again I
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Speaker 8: think all of us are from the US and the
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Speaker 8: UK leadership down, have got to understand just what is
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Speaker 8: at stake here.
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Speaker 9: But this is where I agree with your editorial, Peter.
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Speaker 8: Whatever you think of Bibnet Yahoo Ah, he is being
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Speaker 8: a Churchill at this time, not a chamberlain, and we
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Speaker 8: need more Churchills and fewer Chamberlains.
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Speaker 9: And so I.
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Speaker 8: Think that Bibbi I hope he gives President Biden and
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Speaker 8: Prime Minister Starma a polite hearing, but he then consults
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Speaker 8: what is in Israel's best interests and acts accordingly, because
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Speaker 8: the world needs Israel to win, and frankly, what's in
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Speaker 8: the best interests of Israel right now is in the
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Speaker 8: best interests of all of us.
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Speaker 2: Tony Abbitt, thank you. I know you must go into
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Speaker 2: the embascy now for that service. But I appreciate your time.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: Thousands of propelacity and demonstrators took to the streets of
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Speaker 2: city in Melbourne yesterday and you saw those. A new
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Speaker 2: poll has found the majority of Australians, that majority are
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Speaker 2: sick of the protests and the political division. The result
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Speaker 2: Political Monitor found that fifty nine percent of Australians oppose
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Speaker 2: the marches. That's almost two thirds of those polled, with
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Speaker 2: forty five percent saying that the conflict has made Australia
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Speaker 2: less safe.
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Speaker 3: For more of this.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad to having back National Affairs editor at The Australian,
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Speaker 2: Dennis Shanahan. Well, thank you, Dennis, thank you for being
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Speaker 2: with us tonight. I mean, it's a it's a horrible
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Speaker 2: anniversary to mark, but mark it we must. We've had
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Speaker 2: fifty two weeks of these protests. They haven't swayed political leaders.
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Speaker 2: They're failing to get ordinary Australians on board. And despite
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Speaker 2: the line that these protests are about peace, that's what
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Speaker 2: we're told, more and more Australians say that the protesting
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Speaker 2: is making them feel less safe in their country. I've
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Speaker 2: just had tiny Abbott's reflections on this twelve month anniversary.
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Speaker 2: But I want yours, dinners, What does the last twelve
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Speaker 2: months tell us about us and our country.
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Speaker 10: Well, clearly there has been a change over the last
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Speaker 10: twelve months in our society. We've seen and don't forget,
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Speaker 10: there was the confluence here of the referendum debate on
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Speaker 10: the Indigenous voice to Parliament, which was a very heated
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Speaker 10: debate and divisive and it was followed or preceded by
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Speaker 10: the October seventh outrage. So we've actually seen two very
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Speaker 10: large shocks delivered to the fabric of Australian society. I
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Speaker 10: think that it has changed.
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Speaker 1: There has clearly.
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Speaker 10: Been a rise in divisions and intentions between groups. Also,
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Speaker 10: we have seen the Jewish community feel very much under threat.
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Speaker 10: We've also seen Islamic groups so that they too feel
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Speaker 10: there has been a rising number of Islamophobia towards Muslims
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Speaker 10: in Australia. This has not been the history or the
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Speaker 10: recent history of Australia. We have had a highly successful
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Speaker 10: multicultural society. We're one of the most successful immigrant societies
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Speaker 10: in the world, including Muslims and Jews. And I think
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Speaker 10: what we've seen is that are breaking down, a change
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Speaker 10: in expectations and is all largely due to the manipulation
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Speaker 10: of the media, of institutions, the crystallization of long term views,
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Speaker 10: extremist views which have come to the surface as a
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Speaker 10: result of the October seven terror attacks. These changes didn't
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Speaker 10: occur overnight. They didn't just occur because of the terror attacks.
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Speaker 10: They were building and have been building for a long time.
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Speaker 10: We've seen that on our university campuses and various other institutions,
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Speaker 10: where what we see is a change which has been
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Speaker 10: accelerated by the October seven terror attacks.
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Speaker 1: And I think that there.
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Speaker 10: Has been also a failure of government leadership to have
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Speaker 10: a clear view of what the Australian society expects in
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Speaker 10: relation to what Israel does and what is done to
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Speaker 10: Israel and what is done to Jews and Muslims in Australia.
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Speaker 10: There is no doubt there is concern about what Israel
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Speaker 10: does in response to the attacks, but there is also
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Speaker 10: a justifiable right to defend itself and a right to
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Speaker 10: respond in the way that the US has defined it.
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Speaker 10: And so I think what we are seeing at the
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Speaker 10: moment is a government which is under pressure, which must
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Speaker 10: change its rhetoric and its position in relation to Israel,
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Speaker 10: because the idea is morphing together that people fear that
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Speaker 10: the protest, increasingly violent protests, are threatening our security and
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Speaker 10: our social fabric, and the government needs to change its position.
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Speaker 10: It needs to harden its rhetoric and clear have a
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Speaker 10: very clear position. It is taken too long for the
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Speaker 10: Labor government to actually express an unequivocal and clear view
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Speaker 10: in what it intends to do towards the Middle East
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Speaker 10: and what is happening in Australian society.
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Speaker 2: I would also make the point your point about multiculturalism
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Speaker 2: is very fair, Dennis, but I also make the point
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Speaker 2: that we have spent probably about thirty years talking down Australia.
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Speaker 2: You know, we're not reaching a love of country anymore.
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Speaker 2: Through our school system. We don't take civic pride in patriotism.
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Speaker 2: In fact, if you have a left wing government in
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Speaker 2: charge of your state or your nation, it's a dirty word.
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Speaker 2: We don't have one flag anymore, we have three flags.
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Speaker 2: We have this black armband view of history that most
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Speaker 2: Australians reject. Great sympathy for Aboriginal people, great support for
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Speaker 2: our Aboriginal people, but we want to move on and
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Speaker 2: be a united country and that sort of constantly under
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Speaker 2: debate and challenge from government, and I think all this coalesces.
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Speaker 3: On the weekend we saw clear rules.
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Speaker 2: About hate speech and hesbalah flags. People flouted that they
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Speaker 2: modified their flags. We didn't get one arrest on the
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Speaker 2: weekend from any of the badly behaved protesters. But we
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Speaker 2: had a Jewish man who was carrying an Australian flagged Innis.
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Speaker 2: He was arrested for breach of peace. He was later
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Speaker 2: released without charge. But that is echoes of what happened
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Speaker 2: last time last year, this time last year when we
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Speaker 2: had a Jewish man walked to that the Opera House
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Speaker 2: lit up with the colors of the Jewish flag, and
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Speaker 2: again someone was picked up then and there, but very
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Speaker 2: few arrests of the protesters. I mean, this is the problem.
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Speaker 2: This is why we are here tonight debating what's been
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Speaker 2: I think a horror show of a twelve months for
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Speaker 2: this country.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think that the example of the flag bearer
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Speaker 10: was exactly parallel to the arrest or the taking into
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Speaker 10: custody of the same man who had the Israeli flag,
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Speaker 10: or a similar situation at the Opera House, and it
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Speaker 10: was done by police to protect the individual. Now you
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Speaker 10: have to feel for the police. I understand that they
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Speaker 10: have not taken action at some parades, some protests, but
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Speaker 10: at the same time they cannot allow someone to put
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Speaker 10: themselves in danger. It is a very difficult situation for
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Speaker 10: police and it is the role of the political leaders
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Speaker 10: to actually enunciate clearly what they expect and what the
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Speaker 10: public expects. And it is clear from the polls we
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Speaker 10: have seen that the public expects better security as a
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Speaker 10: result of these protests.
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Speaker 2: Dennis went pretty hard in Melbourne during those freedom riots,
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Speaker 2: sorry freedom protests during the COVID period.
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Speaker 3: I watched it with my own eyes.
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Speaker 2: I watched police in right gear in the park across
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Speaker 2: from my house going after mums and dads standing at
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Speaker 2: play equipment.
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Speaker 3: Now, if that's the.
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Speaker 2: Standard three years ago and we can have these terror
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Speaker 2: sympathizers on the street and not even a slap on
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Speaker 2: the wrist, will I say that's not good enough? And
23:48
Speaker 2: I think most Australians would agree with me.
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Speaker 3: Just quickly.
23:51
Speaker 2: We've got Australians coming home now in these repatriation flights.
23:55
Speaker 2: These are government funded flights. They are with the auspices
23:58
Speaker 2: of our military might rap aircraft. Of course some will
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Speaker 2: land in Sydney tonight. What I think upsets me a
24:06
Speaker 2: bit here, dennisis is DFA has been urging people don't
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Speaker 2: go to Lebanon for months. Leave Lebanon, now, get on
24:12
Speaker 2: a commercial flight. They've been holding commercial flights for people,
24:16
Speaker 2: but now there's a mad rush to leave and a
24:19
Speaker 2: lot of that expense is falling on taxpayers.
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Speaker 10: Well again, Peter, we've seen this before, particularly even in Lebanon,
24:29
Speaker 10: where special flights had to be put on. They were
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Speaker 10: borne by the government taxpayer and the government had little
24:37
Speaker 10: choice but to do it. Yes, it is terribly frustrating,
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Speaker 10: and Anthony Alberanzi himself kept saying over the last couple
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Speaker 10: of weeks, Look, people were told not to go to
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Speaker 10: Lebanon and they should get out.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 10: Now I think that the government is doing what it
24:55
Speaker 10: has to do. We cannot deny assistance to our citizens.
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Speaker 10: And let's remember too, the last time there was a
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Speaker 10: removal from Lebanon, there were complaints from some of those
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Speaker 10: on the trip that they didn't get QUANTUS frequent flyer points.
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Speaker 10: Let's hope it doesn't come down to that. The government
25:15
Speaker 10: has no choice, it must do what it can to
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Speaker 10: get the citizens out, no matter how poorly those citizens
25:22
Speaker 10: have exercised their judgment.
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Speaker 2: Dannis Chandahan will leave it there, thank you. I do
25:29
Speaker 2: hope they get a bill from taxpayers though. Get them out, absolutely,
25:32
Speaker 2: but let's give them the bill. All right, after the
25:34
Speaker 2: break and cross life in Jerusalem, we'll speak of Sherry Markson, well,
25:38
Speaker 2: what it's like on the ground one year on the
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Speaker 2: October seven Atrocities class I, we joined my two everyday
25:44
Speaker 2: members of the Jewish community this event in Melbourne. Some
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Speaker 2: five thousand people out of vigil tonight will.
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Speaker 3: Cross their lives as well.
25:55
Speaker 2: Welcome back still the calm Across live to the lakember
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Speaker 2: Mosk in Sydney as an event gets a way to
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Speaker 2: mark what organizers have had the goal to call.
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Speaker 3: A year of resilience.
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Speaker 2: But first of my colleagues, Skane Sky News host Shari
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Speaker 2: Markson is in Israel.
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Speaker 3: She's there all week.
26:12
Speaker 2: She'll broadcast her show from Israel and she joins me
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Speaker 2: now live from Jerusalem.
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Speaker 3: Well, Shari, welcome.
26:18
Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to be able to talk to you tonight
26:20
Speaker 2: as we kick off what is a huge week for
26:23
Speaker 2: you personally but also for the Israeli people. I've got
26:28
Speaker 2: to ask you about the mood on the ground. This
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Speaker 2: is the first year anniversary from the atrocity. Give us
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Speaker 2: a sense of how things are in.
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Speaker 3: Israel tonight, Peter.
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Speaker 11: It's deeply moving. It's a very emotional day for everybody here.
26:44
Speaker 11: I think we all know that Israelis have a lot
26:47
Speaker 11: of resilience, and the past year there's been this huge
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Speaker 11: effort to pick up, keep going, carry on and fight back,
26:54
Speaker 11: fight the terrorists.
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Speaker 6: But today is a moment to grieve.
26:58
Speaker 11: It's a day to grieve, and the whole nation is
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Speaker 11: coming together to do that. There's a huge sense of
27:05
Speaker 11: solidarity in Israel as well. Everyone is united in the
27:08
Speaker 11: fact that we do need to defeat the terrorists. You
27:11
Speaker 11: know that might be the current government might be divisive,
27:15
Speaker 11: but the idea of going to war to defeat the
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Speaker 11: terrorists is something that the entire nation is behind, just
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Speaker 11: because of the absolutely enormous and devastating and brutal loss
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Speaker 11: of life a year ago today.
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Speaker 2: So what are people saying to you about how the
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Speaker 2: government's handling thing. Are they are full of support for
27:37
Speaker 2: going into southern Lebanon? Are they full of support for
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Speaker 2: the strikes into the Hesblad territories for hitting back against
27:44
Speaker 2: Iran is that when they are despite they might have
27:48
Speaker 2: a personal view against bibinit Yaho.
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Speaker 11: That's exactly right. I mean, every Israeli has a different
27:56
Speaker 11: opinion about the current prime minister. He's been prime minister
27:58
Speaker 11: for a long time, so everyone does have a different view.
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Speaker 3: But there's no one that I've.
28:02
Speaker 11: Come across who doesn't think that Israel should be defending
28:06
Speaker 11: itself against the terrorist group Hezblah. And remember there are
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Speaker 11: eighty thousand Israelis who have had to leave their home
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Speaker 11: on the border with Lebanon. There have been eight thousand
28:17
Speaker 11: rockets that have come from Hezbla into Israel over the
28:20
Speaker 11: past yere, agriculture, farming, it's all been destroyed in that area.
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Speaker 11: So at what point does Israel need to say, Okay,
28:29
Speaker 11: our citizens do have a right, our families should be
28:31
Speaker 11: able to move back to their homes. That's a legitimate
28:34
Speaker 11: war goal. And to do that it needs to defeat Hesbelah.
28:37
Speaker 11: And remember the United Nations Resolution seventeen oh one said
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Speaker 11: that Hezela did need to stay north of the Latini River.
28:45
Speaker 11: It has failed to do that. The UN has failed
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Speaker 11: to upheld that, So what is Israel actually meant to do?
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Speaker 3: All right?
28:54
Speaker 2: Just on that point, I always think when you're overseas
28:57
Speaker 2: away from your own country and you're standing somewhere and
29:00
Speaker 2: looking back, you get a very unique advantage.
29:02
Speaker 3: Point.
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Speaker 2: I want to know what Israelis is saying to you
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Speaker 2: about how they have watched the last twelve months, how
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Speaker 2: they've watched what's unfolded in places like Australia, their view
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Speaker 2: of the U WIN, their view of the United States,
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Speaker 2: how supported or not do they feel.
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Speaker 3: What are they saying to you.
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Speaker 11: Week utter horror at the current Australian government. Everybody doesn't,
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Speaker 11: even if they're the most left leaning Israelis, they're horrified
29:31
Speaker 11: by the current Australian government and the international community and Peter,
29:35
Speaker 11: they all watch our coverage on Sky News Australia because
29:39
Speaker 11: where the virtually the only media outlet globally that's been
29:42
Speaker 11: supportive of Israel. And they're grateful for that support because
29:46
Speaker 11: there's been this shocking anti Israel bias in the media
29:50
Speaker 11: right around the world, and that's reflected in the international
29:53
Speaker 11: community as well, weak woke Western leaders that continually demand
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Speaker 11: a ceasepy of Israel. What other country in the world
30:02
Speaker 11: would fail to try and bring it citizens home if
30:05
Speaker 11: they had been kidnapped hostage, or would try and remove
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Speaker 11: the terror threat if even babies had been brutally slaughtered.
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Speaker 3: In their cots.
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Speaker 11: We have seen a failure of international leadership around the world,
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Speaker 11: no question. And you're here on my show a bit
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Speaker 11: later tonight I interview the brother of the only Australian
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Speaker 11: who was murdered on October seven, Gullet Carbone, and her
30:28
Speaker 11: brother is scathing about Penny Wong. Scathing and he's a
30:33
Speaker 11: former where he's still an Australian citizen as well.
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Speaker 2: Well, you did what Penny Wong didn't do, what she
30:39
Speaker 2: refused to do.
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Speaker 3: You went down to.
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Speaker 2: The scene of the Nova Music Festival. I've got to
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Speaker 2: ask you. You know, I know you, the audience knows
30:47
Speaker 2: you're a very proud Jewish woman. This has got to
30:51
Speaker 2: be personally tough on you to be there at this time,
30:54
Speaker 2: or are you taking your own sort of heart from
30:57
Speaker 2: it all.
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Speaker 11: It's been such a powerful trip for me, a powerful.
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Speaker 1: Visit, Peter.
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Speaker 11: I hope you don't mind me making this public that
31:08
Speaker 11: it was actually your suggestion that I come here for
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Speaker 11: this anniversary and I'm so pleased you did suggest that,
31:14
Speaker 11: because it has been a deeply, a deeply moving.
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Speaker 12: Experience for me.
31:19
Speaker 11: I am a proud Jewish Australian. I've always loved being
31:23
Speaker 11: an Australian. I've loved my country. But over the past
31:26
Speaker 11: year we've seen the darkest and unprecedented antisemitism in Australia,
31:31
Speaker 11: nothing like it ever before. I never had to think
31:34
Speaker 11: about my religion before. Now you know it is something
31:37
Speaker 11: you're afraid of. And it's been beautiful to walk on
31:40
Speaker 11: the streets of Israel. I don't have to worry if
31:42
Speaker 11: I'm wearing my mug and dovid, no one's gonna terrorize
31:46
Speaker 11: me or say anything nasty to me.
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Speaker 6: For that, I can wear it with pride, and then.
31:51
Speaker 11: Going there to the kibbutzim, to the side of the
31:53
Speaker 11: Nova Music Festival, actually hugging in my arms. The people
31:57
Speaker 11: I've been interviewing on my show for over a year. Yeah,
32:00
Speaker 11: the hostage Viva Seagull. She spent fifty one days in Gaza.
32:05
Speaker 11: She was taken hostage in her pajamas. Her husband's still there.
32:09
Speaker 11: I interviewed her that interview on my show tonight. We
32:12
Speaker 11: both cried we held each other. It's just this incredible
32:16
Speaker 11: solidarity and I think Jews around the world feel it.
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Speaker 11: But thank you to you Peter for suggesting I come here.
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Speaker 11: You know it never would have occurred to me without that.
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Speaker 3: Well, if anyone was going to go to Shay, it
32:28
Speaker 3: have to be you.
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Speaker 2: I will watch your show, will law watch your show,
32:31
Speaker 2: will watch your show all week from Israel. Thank you
32:33
Speaker 2: for joining me tonight, Cherry. Eight o'clock tonight, Cherry from Jerusalem.
32:37
Speaker 2: Please please watch and support our dear friend. All right
32:41
Speaker 2: now to one of the biggest events in Australia to
32:44
Speaker 2: commemorate the October seven atrocities that are about to begin.
32:47
Speaker 2: This event's about to begin in Morabit in Melbourne in
32:50
Speaker 2: just under half an hour.
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Speaker 3: So far five.
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Speaker 2: Thousand people have Rsvpede well told. The Prime Minister and
32:58
Speaker 2: the Attorney General Mark Drafus will be there. A whole
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Speaker 2: lot of other VIPs too, But it's the real people
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Speaker 2: Jewish community that are there and honored. Tonight, two of
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Speaker 2: the members of that community, Karen Zelwa and Jonathan Cohen,
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Speaker 2: join me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Karen and Jonathan, thank you very much.
33:16
Speaker 2: I'll come to you first, Karen, if I can Why
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Speaker 2: was it so important for you to turn up to
33:21
Speaker 2: this event tonight and what does it mean for you
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Speaker 2: to see so many people standing with you and showing solidarity.
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Speaker 6: Thank you tonight.
33:32
Speaker 4: Mark's the most terrific loss of Jewish life since the Holocaust,
33:37
Speaker 4: and it's really important for our community to be able
33:39
Speaker 4: to block out the noise and have our own safe space,
33:42
Speaker 4: to be able to mourn and griethe and really cry
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Speaker 4: together with our brothers and sisters in Israel and stand
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Speaker 4: in solidarity with them. We haven't had the opportunity to
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Speaker 4: do that because we've been so busy advocating and you know,
33:54
Speaker 4: the noise around us. It's really important for us to
33:57
Speaker 4: come together and pray for the hostages, including a one
34:01
Speaker 4: year old baby who's stuck in Gaza still and really
34:04
Speaker 4: it's an ongoing morning for our brothers and sisters in
34:07
Speaker 4: Israel who continue to fight for their country, and it's
34:11
Speaker 4: really meaningful for us to have people come and join
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Speaker 4: us here to listen to the personal stories from hostage
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Speaker 4: family members and from novas survivors.
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Speaker 3: We welcome all support so that.
34:22
Speaker 4: You can their witness and tell the world about what happens.
34:28
Speaker 3: Jonathan I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think anyone else has had as many pro Palestinian
34:31
Speaker 2: protests as Melbourne has. What's that been like for you
34:35
Speaker 2: as a member of Melbourne' Jewish community.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, it's been extremely confronting, and I guess this
34:43
Speaker 13: has really been the case in a lot of Western cities,
34:48
Speaker 13: and it's not so much the act of protest, but
34:50
Speaker 13: it's been at times the open support for frank terrorism,
34:56
Speaker 13: with some of the most egregious examples of jew high
35:00
Speaker 13: and anti Semitism that I didn't think would exist in
35:03
Speaker 13: the streets, and you know, it's certainly kept the Jewish
35:07
Speaker 13: community at times away from their major centers. We have
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Speaker 13: a nice rally yesterday in the city to sort of
35:14
Speaker 13: reclaim that space, but it really, you know, week to
35:17
Speaker 13: week seems to be getting worse and worse and it's
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Speaker 13: quite demoralizing, Karen.
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Speaker 2: One bright light there was for us all today was
35:28
Speaker 2: to see in that a Herald pole that almost two
35:32
Speaker 2: thirds of Australians reject the anti Semitism and the protests
35:37
Speaker 2: that are happening, and they feel that the protesting is
35:40
Speaker 2: not making them feel safe, that they share great concern
35:43
Speaker 2: and solidarity with Jewish Australians. I guess the message tonight
35:49
Speaker 2: and the show of strength of people there is also
35:52
Speaker 2: to say that the people who are against you are
35:55
Speaker 2: the minority.
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Speaker 4: We really appreciate that, and I think there is a
36:02
Speaker 4: silent majority out there. We really call on them to
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Speaker 4: stand up and to speak, even though we understand that
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Speaker 4: it's difficult. But I think that there are people that
36:10
Speaker 4: are seeing that they do not want flags of terrorists
36:14
Speaker 4: being flown on their streets and the extremism. It's one
36:18
Speaker 4: thing to mourn the death of innocence in Gaza and
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Speaker 4: that's okay and we understand that, but it's a very
36:25
Speaker 4: different thing to fly the flags of terrorists or have
36:29
Speaker 4: a picture of a Nostrala for example, and to take
36:32
Speaker 4: over the streets and really disrupt. And I think that
36:36
Speaker 4: regular Australians are getting sick of that.
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Speaker 3: They absolutely are.
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Speaker 2: We stand with you tonight, Karen and Jonathan, thank you,
36:44
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. As I said, if I
36:47
Speaker 2: wasn't here tonight, I would be there.
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Speaker 3: After the break.
36:50
Speaker 2: Despite both the Jewish community and authorities pleading for the
36:53
Speaker 2: pro palaescet In organizers to hold off, one rally is
36:57
Speaker 2: going ahead in Southwest Sydney tonight it's at the Kember Mosque.
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Speaker 2: Will cross there for an update. In a moment, Blaser
37:02
Speaker 2: moves the foot to remove John Pizuto as Victorian Liberal leader.
37:06
Speaker 2: Anchor's mounting over's handling of the Moier Deeming expulsion. Welcome
37:14
Speaker 2: back still to come. Why Origin Energy's abandonment of a
37:18
Speaker 2: major hydrogen project is yet another blow to Labour's net
37:21
Speaker 2: zero agenda. But first, unfortunately the pleas from the Jewish
37:26
Speaker 2: community and others fell on deaf ears. There is tonight
37:30
Speaker 2: a rally for Palestine and Lebanon currently underway at Lakember
37:33
Speaker 2: Mosque in Sydney, and one of the scheduled speakers, Shaikh
37:37
Speaker 2: Ibrahim d'ardon, you'll recall, is in fact the same person
37:41
Speaker 2: who referred to the October seven day last year as
37:45
Speaker 2: a day of pride. Joining me now live from the
37:48
Speaker 2: Lakemba Mosque, Senior reporter Kenny Heathley, Kenny, welcome. What have
37:52
Speaker 2: the speakers been saying to Peter?
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Speaker 12: There have been the usual chance from the river to
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Speaker 12: the sea, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: And we also.
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Speaker 14: Heard from Ibrahim Dadun, the sheikh who you were talking about.
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Speaker 12: Just a moment ago. Here's a little bit about what
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Speaker 12: he was.
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Speaker 15: Saying I ask of you to continue.
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Speaker 3: All the actions that you have started.
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Speaker 15: One year ago, and do not stop until we see
38:29
Speaker 15: the crumbling of Zionism, until we see the end of
38:33
Speaker 15: the occupying his radioforces.
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Speaker 14: Now, probably the rhetoric that would be considered most offensive,
38:42
Speaker 14: particularly to the Jewish community, is that one of the
38:46
Speaker 14: speakers on the microphone said that October seven was an
38:50
Speaker 14: act of resistance. Clearly a denial there that it was
38:54
Speaker 14: a terrorist attack by a terrorist organization. Here, we've got
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Speaker 14: less numbers than what we're expected. There's about a thousand
39:03
Speaker 14: people here, and there are Palestine flags, there are Lebanese flags.
39:08
Speaker 14: We're not seeing any hez Bala flags. We're not seeing
39:11
Speaker 14: people hold portraits of as Hassan Israla. It is generally peaceful.
39:18
Speaker 14: But despite the lower numbers and what we're seeing here,
39:22
Speaker 14: there is a significant police presence, and Peter, this is
39:24
Speaker 14: an authorized, defed meeting that they could block off the
39:27
Speaker 14: road here. What is happening on the other side of
39:30
Speaker 14: town in the CBD is a pro Palestine.
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Speaker 12: Vigil at town Hall, and we have some pictures to
39:36
Speaker 12: show you.
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Speaker 1: There. Again, less numbers.
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Speaker 14: Probably than what everyone was expecting, despite a significant police
39:42
Speaker 14: presence probably about two to three hundred people of that
39:45
Speaker 14: particular event, So definitely not the turnout that what.
39:50
Speaker 12: Was expected at these pro Palestine rallies in Sydney.
39:55
Speaker 2: They said that there might be something like ten thousand
39:58
Speaker 2: people there tonight. You're right, much much down and what
40:02
Speaker 2: was expected. Who is organizing this rally? Because when I
40:05
Speaker 2: looked it up online I could see a raft of organizations,
40:10
Speaker 2: Muslim organizations. I have to say, many of them, I
40:13
Speaker 2: know get government funding.
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Speaker 3: Do we know who the organizers are?
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Speaker 14: Yes, there's about thirty eight or thirty nine organizers on there.
40:24
Speaker 14: The Lebanese Muslim Association of course is a partner here
40:28
Speaker 14: and those leaders are here as well. But you've also
40:32
Speaker 14: got Muslim student bodies in uts and also the University
40:37
Speaker 14: of Sydney, but also Stand for Palestine now Stand for
40:40
Speaker 14: Palestine is the Australian Front of Islamic Extremist organization his
40:46
Speaker 14: book to Rear Now. Two days ago Peter his book
40:49
Speaker 14: to Reer, put out a press release condemning the criticism
40:53
Speaker 14: of this rally in front of lakember Mosque. So clearly
40:59
Speaker 14: that is an influence here, and certainly some of the
41:02
Speaker 14: rhetoric that we have been hearing from those speakers on
41:06
Speaker 14: the microphone about how this is a genocide and that
41:10
Speaker 14: Western governments are complicit in that genocide in Gaza, and
41:15
Speaker 14: now they say the same thing as occurring.
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Speaker 12: In southern Lebanar.
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Speaker 14: You know, you've got all those organizations that we were
41:23
Speaker 14: talking about that our partners here. But in terms of
41:27
Speaker 14: the people here, there's many that are peaceful. They're just
41:30
Speaker 14: showing out as they would at any event at the
41:34
Speaker 14: Lakemba Bosco.
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Speaker 3: All right, we'll there, We'll leave it there.
41:38
Speaker 2: Just I don't want any more hate to spill out
41:40
Speaker 2: onto the screen if that's what's going to happen. Kenny,
41:42
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. Thanks for joining us tonight
41:44
Speaker 2: from the Kember Mosque there in Sydney. All right, after
41:46
Speaker 2: the break reality check for Chris Bong, we'll get unto
41:48
Speaker 2: all the other issues of the day. Major energy companies
41:51
Speaker 2: conceding the economics of so called green hydrogen, surprise of rise,
41:54
Speaker 2: Chris doesn't stack up the latest on the ground for
41:58
Speaker 2: the Queensland election, and crime and Laura in order cost
42:01
Speaker 2: to live in two top voter concerns. Welcome back, Let's
42:09
Speaker 2: bring in my panel now joining me, l and P
42:11
Speaker 2: MP Keith Pitt Paul and Hanson's Cheapert Staff who's also
42:15
Speaker 2: running for the seat of Keppel in the Queensland state election,
42:18
Speaker 2: James Ashby, Well, Jens welcome. We'll start with Origin Energy
42:22
Speaker 2: and hydrogen because Origin, along with Twiggy Forest, have dumped
42:27
Speaker 2: their plans for a Origin has dumped its hydrogen plans.
42:31
Speaker 2: They'll no longer be investing, they say in the new
42:33
Speaker 2: South Wales Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub. Their CEO, Frank Collabrias
42:38
Speaker 2: says the market's developing slower than expected, and he says
42:42
Speaker 2: there are still a number of risks. As I said,
42:45
Speaker 2: Twiggis dumped hydrogen as well. Keith, how significance do you
42:49
Speaker 2: view this?
42:51
Speaker 1: Well, what a surprise, pleeter.
42:53
Speaker 16: There are still companies out there whose boards and management
42:56
Speaker 16: make serious decisions about investing the shareholders' money.
43:00
Speaker 1: And that's what's happened here.
43:01
Speaker 16: They've looked at the proposal, they've assessed it, they've.
43:04
Speaker 1: Looked at the amount of capital that's required.
43:06
Speaker 16: They've worked out what the market is and how much
43:08
Speaker 16: they can produce it for. And there's no buyers and
43:10
Speaker 16: it's too expensive and it's too much risk, and they've
43:13
Speaker 16: decided not to do it, and I think that's going
43:15
Speaker 16: to continue it happening across the board because it's just
43:18
Speaker 16: not technically feasible. So congratulations to Origin. They've done what
43:21
Speaker 16: they're supposed to do as a company in Austrait.
43:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, that puts nuclear back squarely front and center. Let's
43:28
Speaker 2: go to Queensland's James. We know it's an election campaign
43:31
Speaker 2: because you're having another debate today about daylight savings.
43:36
Speaker 3: We're told that a.
43:36
Speaker 2: Majority of Queenslanders want daylight savings. I don't think it's
43:42
Speaker 2: going to be what turns the votes up there. We
43:44
Speaker 2: know it's the bread and butter issues of cost of living,
43:46
Speaker 2: of course, but really and truly I think crime and
43:49
Speaker 2: law and order. Are you telling me if I'm wrong,
43:51
Speaker 2: are light years ahead? What are people telling you is
43:55
Speaker 2: driving their vote?
43:58
Speaker 17: You spot on and look, if people do want to
44:00
Speaker 17: have that discussion about daylight savings, it should be taken
44:03
Speaker 17: to a referendum in four years time, perhaps at the
44:05
Speaker 17: next election.
44:06
Speaker 18: Maybe we can discuss it then.
44:07
Speaker 17: For the meantime, everything comes down to cost of living,
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Speaker 17: the crime here in Queensland, and of course the hospital
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Speaker 17: wait lists. We have got people waiting in excess of
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Speaker 17: seven or eight years for some of the most simplest
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Speaker 17: of procedures. And the more remote you go, the more
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Speaker 17: regional you go. Like where I am here in central Queensland.
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Speaker 17: We're having kids wait seven years for a tonsilectomy which
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Speaker 17: should have been done within ninety days. These are the
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Speaker 17: problems that regional Queenslanders are facing. It's okay if you
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Speaker 17: live in the southeast corner, but we don't even have
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Speaker 17: e and os and throats specialists here in Rocky anymore.
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Speaker 17: We don't have someone that can perform stents within cardiology,
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Speaker 17: and we can't even have babies down here at the
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Speaker 17: Yupun Hospital. So there's some of the issues that are
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Speaker 17: coming about. But rent prices continue to be a big
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Speaker 17: talk topping and cost of living.
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Speaker 18: It's just crippling households.
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Speaker 17: No matter how much money you earn, it doesn't matter
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Speaker 17: whether you're one hundred and fifty thousand.
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Speaker 18: Dollars a year or less.
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Speaker 17: Every Body is hurting here in Queensland and it's because
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Speaker 17: of really POxy labor government decisions over the last nine years.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Opposition leader, the Liberal leader John Pizzuto's facing a leadership coup.
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Speaker 2: The Herald Sun reports they can confirm and I quote,
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Speaker 2: a motion to suspend standing orders and make the way
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Speaker 2: with a required notice period for a challenge will be
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Speaker 2: moved at a party room meeting when the parliament resumes
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Speaker 2: in Victoria on October fifteen. Now that's a shocking look,
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Speaker 2: there is it in Keith Pitt.
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Speaker 1: Peter.
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Speaker 16: As you know, in Victoria, there's plenty of mud to
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Speaker 16: go around and everyone's getting splattered with it. It doesn't
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Speaker 16: matter whether you're on the Conservative side, the Liberals, where
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Speaker 16: you're in the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: It just seems to be diabolical.
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Speaker 16: And it's no wonder that people down there, the actual
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Speaker 16: voting public, have lost faith in their parliamentarians.
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Speaker 1: And here's another case. Now, will there be a spell? Well,
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Speaker 1: who knows. I'm not connected, but I'll give you the
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Speaker 1: hot tip.
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Speaker 16: If you're out there and you're disillusioned, and you're a
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Speaker 16: porter of the Liberal Party and you want to get involved,
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Speaker 16: join the nuts. The Victorian Nationals are always looking for
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Speaker 16: good fable. So there's an opportunity for you right now.
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Speaker 2: You got to plug in there. I've got to go
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Speaker 2: to you on this, James though. I mean, if it's
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Speaker 2: found in Moira Deeming's favor.
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Speaker 3: If they punch.
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Speaker 2: John Persuiter, I think he should have gone a year ago.
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Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely cac handled all of this stuff,
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Speaker 2: and women should be able to speak to defend our rights,
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Speaker 2: particularly on the conservative side of politics. But if he goes,
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Speaker 2: surely part of any peace deal, part of any new
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Speaker 2: leader coming in, they've got to put Moira back into
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Speaker 2: the party room, draw a line under this move on
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Speaker 2: and say to female voters out there, we welcome you
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Speaker 2: wanting to defend female voices, female spaces, because I tell
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Speaker 2: you what if they keep Deeming on the outer even
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Speaker 2: if they change leader, what sort of signals does that
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Speaker 2: send to women in Victoria.
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Speaker 18: Well, congratulation to Moira Deeming.
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Speaker 17: It would have been so easy for her to go
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Speaker 17: and find herself a new party like One Nation, who
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Speaker 17: would have gladly accepted her.
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Speaker 18: But what she did, she stayed on the proof role.
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Speaker 18: She stayed there, very loyal to the party that she
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Speaker 18: was elected under.
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Speaker 17: It was them that were disloyal to her, and I
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Speaker 17: think they should be accepting her back with open arms.
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Speaker 17: It's pretty clear that she's got a lot of talent.
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Speaker 17: She's been very persistent with this cause that she's taken
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Speaker 17: on and shame on some of the executive within Victoria.
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Speaker 17: They got this wrong, they read the tea leaves wrong
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Speaker 17: and John Pursudo should go And no doubt this could
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Speaker 17: seriously bankrupt him if he's found to be obviously costs
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Speaker 17: awarded against him, this could seriously harm his ongoing ability
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Speaker 17: to stay in the Parliament as well.
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Speaker 2: Keith in New South. New South was in South Australia.
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Speaker 2: The former Liberal leader there, David Spears, he's no longer
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Speaker 2: the leader. He is quitting parliament. That's been announced. He's
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Speaker 2: been charged by police in Adelaide with drug supply offenses.
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Speaker 3: We'll leave that there.
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, in Victoria, we've got a
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Speaker 2: candidate running for the Ara Council that wants to give
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Speaker 2: free drugs to drug addicts because she says it's going
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Speaker 2: to make the streets safer. She says we need to
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Speaker 2: give free drugs so they don't have to commit crimes
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Speaker 2: to afford them.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's start in Victoria.
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Speaker 16: Peter, and I've always been to the very firm view
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Speaker 16: governments should not be running quality control for drug dealers
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Speaker 16: and they should not be supplies for drugs full stop.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just ludicrous.
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Speaker 16: Our job is to help people when they're in difficult circumstances,
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Speaker 16: not provide another hit for them in heroin injecting rooms
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Speaker 16: and go off to concerts and try and run quality
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Speaker 16: control on things that are actually developed in bathrooms and
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Speaker 16: garages around the world and around the country. So I
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Speaker 16: just oppose this completely Now. On David Spears reasonably well.
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Speaker 16: I worked with him very closely when he was Water Minister. Firstly,
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Speaker 16: I hope he's okay.
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Speaker 1: I hope he's doing all right.
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Speaker 16: His position was obviously untenable, and I've seen the claims
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Speaker 16: around deep fake AI and having to have something involved
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Speaker 16: with AI to be honest, but I just don't know anymore.
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Speaker 1: How do we prove that a video is true? It
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Speaker 1: just makes it so difficult.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and even though he's been charged by the police,
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Speaker 2: of course he is innocent until proven guilty. James just quickly.
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Speaker 2: Parliament's back this week from tomorrow. The PM's pushing very
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Speaker 2: hard to ran misinformation disinformation through. It doesn't look like
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Speaker 2: he'll get his election reforms through. Does that mean we'll
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Speaker 2: see a return of Clive Palmer and Simon Holmes?
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Speaker 3: A court and their big money.
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Speaker 17: Watch this space. I have no doubt CLIVEE. Palmer is
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Speaker 17: going to be running at the next federal election. He'll
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Speaker 17: probably be a little more selective though. I don't think
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Speaker 17: he's going to run in every seat right across the
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Speaker 17: one hundred and fifty one seats, but he'll certainly give
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Speaker 17: the Victorian Senate a good crack. Mean big bucks back
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Speaker 17: in their Simon Homer courts will certainly do it again.
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Speaker 17: But look, Labor certainly won't have the big bucks coming
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Speaker 17: their way, that's for sure. We've seen a decline in
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Speaker 17: their donations here in Queensland, so I don't think they'll
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Speaker 17: have the big dollars to spend on the next election.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll leave it there. See if ever you
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Speaker 2: U is in trouble, Jen C you both next week.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your company. I know it's been a
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Speaker 2: tough night today for so many people, but I appreciate
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Speaker 2: your time.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Bolt up next.