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Tech Friday w/ Dave Hatter - Sponsored by Intrust IT - 5/1/2026 · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Six thirty here I fifty five KCD talk station, Happy Friday.
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Speaker 1: According to Business Courier, Interest I T is the best
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Speaker 1: in the business right and when it comes to computer needs,
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Speaker 1: your business have computers, I presume so unless you're a
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Speaker 1: lude business, Dave Hatter and the crew at interest i
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Speaker 1: T dot com are there to help you out avoid problems,
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Speaker 1: sol set up things, and maybe recover data if you've
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Speaker 1: been hit by a hacker. I don't know if they
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Speaker 1: can solve the roadblocks problem. Dave's going to talk about
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Speaker 1: that right now. If you're interested in the articles that
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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter relies upon and supported the topics we were
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Speaker 1: talking about here this morning, like this first article on roadblocks,
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Speaker 1: go to LinkedIn dot com and just search for Dave
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Speaker 1: Hatter interest I T. You will definitely find him, and
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Speaker 1: he always attaches the links there in his site. Dave Hatter,
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the morning show, my friend. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: you coming on the show every week and talking about
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Speaker 1: these important issues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, always my pleasure, Brian. It seems like every week,
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Speaker 2: the yeah, the security related aspects of technology just become
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Speaker 2: more and more of a concern, whether it's you know,
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Speaker 2: privacy related things. You know, we could we could talk
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Speaker 2: for your whole show totally every week just on these things.
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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you having me on.
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Speaker 1: And Geez, I hope the powers that be behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: whoever's responsible for all these security nightmares that you raised
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Speaker 1: through our attention every week, are really hard at work
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven trying to get in front of
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Speaker 1: these challenges. You know, the light switch going off, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's I just mentioned about the undersea cables being
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Speaker 1: cut by the Iranians. That's something they could possibly do.
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Speaker 1: Anybody anywhere in the world could do that, and then
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Speaker 1: the lights go out and we can't communicate. That's a
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Speaker 1: massive problem.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're right, and this is the point I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to make all the time, Brian. When people tell me
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Speaker 2: they're not worried about this, they don't take it seriously.
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Speaker 2: They don't care about privacy, they got nothing to steal,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Right, both as individuals and as organizations. It's like, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: our entire society is digital. Now. Who in your listening
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Speaker 2: audience out there do you think spends less time online
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Speaker 2: today for their work, for their entertainment, for shopping, for banking,
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Speaker 2: etcent than they did five years ago. I would bet
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Speaker 2: you almost everyone out there has a smartphone. You know,
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Speaker 2: their businesses are now all automated, they're all interconnected. So
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Speaker 2: to your point, brain, yeah, bank accounts. To your point,
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Speaker 2: whether it's someone cuts the undersea cables, someone knocks out
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Speaker 2: the power grids, someone knocks out the telecom grid, someone
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Speaker 2: just takes down a large Internet service provider like Google
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Speaker 2: or Microsoft or cloud Flare. I mean, think back, think
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Speaker 2: back to what we saw just over two years ago.
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Speaker 2: Crowd Strike, a company that makes software that's designed to
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Speaker 2: protect you from these kinds of threats keep your systems
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Speaker 2: online and functioning correctly, due to a software issue, took
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Speaker 2: down millions of systems. So again, I can't stress enough
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Speaker 2: for businesses, it's important to both have a strong defense
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Speaker 2: against these things. So nothing is perfect, And I would
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Speaker 2: argue today because the attacks are coming so quickly from
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Speaker 2: so many different channels and are becoming more difficult to
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Speaker 2: defend against because of the speed and the complexity thanks
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Speaker 2: to AI, you have to have systems that are resilient,
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Speaker 2: they can be recovered quickly, good backups that you test regularly,
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Speaker 2: backups that are off site, and can't be touched in
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Speaker 2: the event of an incident. And one last thing before
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Speaker 2: we get to the roadblocks. Well, you know, an incident
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Speaker 2: isn't always cyber Brian. It could be equipment failure, it
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Speaker 2: could be natural disaster. So you know, if you think
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Speaker 2: your business can survive without good backups and the ability
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Speaker 2: to recover, okay, maybe good luck with that.
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Speaker 1: Well we still gonn to have time to get roadblocks
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Speaker 1: in here. But your last topic we can take first
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Speaker 1: about the smart devices. Speaking to hackers. I think kind
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Speaker 1: of is a corollary discussion because every hospital, power, a
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Speaker 1: municipal water system in America is running on a network
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Speaker 1: of connected devices. This is an area of real concern
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Speaker 1: for security. So once you address this one briefly.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Brian and the Internet of things aka smart devices. Now,
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Speaker 2: if you follow me on LinkedIn as you mentioned, or
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Speaker 2: x or follow my substack, I'm talking about these things
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Speaker 2: all the time. The Internet of things, so called smart devices,
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Speaker 2: are not very smart. They're not focused on your privacy security.
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Speaker 2: To your point, they're everywhere, and it's not just these
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Speaker 2: consumer grade devices like sweepers and doorbells, right, It's sensors
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Speaker 2: and industrial plants. It's valves, it's train switching equipment, it's
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Speaker 2: cranes supports. We talked about this last week.
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Speaker 1: The the yes, the secular modules is what I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 2: In all of these things that make them able to
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Speaker 2: connect to the internet, use Wi Fi, things like that. Right,
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Speaker 2: most of these chips come from China. China and the
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Speaker 2: United States are not on the best of terms. Could
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Speaker 2: these chips have back doors, vulnerabilities? Could they be remotely
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Speaker 2: turned off because they have to remotely connect to get
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Speaker 2: software updates? The things we talk about all the time, Brian,
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Speaker 2: But this article, it's just this focus is more on
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Speaker 2: the privacy side of it. But as we add more
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Speaker 2: and more software into things, as we make things smart,
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Speaker 2: as they get connected. There's a really famous cybersecurity guy
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Speaker 2: who says, if it's smart, it's it's vulnerable. And I
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Speaker 2: couldn't agree with that more. This article is saying, you
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Speaker 2: know you have all these connected devices. Your thermostat knows
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Speaker 2: when you leave, your doorbell knows when you hit the street.
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Speaker 2: Hospital down the street has infusion pumps, patient monitors. We've
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Speaker 2: seen hospitals get hit and knocked out. But they're basically saying,
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Speaker 2: you know these devices are potentially listening to you, if
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Speaker 2: they have microphones watching you, if they have cameras collecting
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Speaker 2: your data. So even if the company that makes the
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Speaker 2: device isn't doing anything that various with it, are they
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Speaker 2: selling your data to another company or government and it Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and it's not just it's a privacy issue, right, I
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Speaker 2: mean that is a concern. It's definitely a concern for me.
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Speaker 2: It's how is that data being used. We've seen examples
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Speaker 2: around the world, including the recent attack in Iran where
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Speaker 2: cameras where uh and devices were hacked so that they
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Speaker 2: could collect intelligence to use for military attacks. Seen this
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Speaker 2: with Russia. So the more of these so called smart
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Speaker 2: devices that we have in our environment, I've seen estimates
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Speaker 2: that it's over thirty billion. Now. Now again this isn't
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Speaker 2: just the consumer stuff, it's the stuff in industrial settings. Right.
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Speaker 2: The more of these we have, if we're not focused
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Speaker 2: on building these things so that they are secure and resilient,
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Speaker 2: we are just literally opening portals for the bad guys
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Speaker 2: to attack. And this is why I'm constantly trying to
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Speaker 2: warn people until the whole business model of these things
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Speaker 2: changes and they're built with security and privacy first, as
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Speaker 2: opposed to speed the market easy to use market share
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Speaker 2: data collection. We are creating more and more and more
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Speaker 2: holes that can be attacked and used against us, both
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Speaker 2: individually as organizations and then frankly from a nation state
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Speaker 2: perspective from adversarial attackers.
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Speaker 1: Well, I hope they get ahead of it before what
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Speaker 1: seems to be inevitable happens and the lights do go out,
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Speaker 1: don't go away? More with David, we'll deal with the
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Speaker 1: roadblocks thing coming up next. First, cross country mortgage. Whether
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Speaker 1: you by KRC detalk station businesses rely on interest It
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Speaker 1: and Dave hat Ter and his crew to help you
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Speaker 1: out with all your computer related needs. And I guess
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Speaker 1: don't be one of the eighty eighty nine million people
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Speaker 1: who make daily visits to this roadblocks site. That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of active daily users. But there's a bigger problem
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Speaker 1: than that on roadblocks Dave geez Louise child exploitation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is disturbing, and I want to be clear Brian.
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Speaker 2: You know there are all kinds of allegations and so
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Speaker 2: forth here and lawsuits out there, and Roadblocks has gotten
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Speaker 2: a lot of the scrutiny. Now, I don't use roadblocks.
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Speaker 2: I don't have any kids that play roadblocks anymore. But
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear. It's not just roadblocks, it's
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Speaker 2: anywhere where someone can have access to your kids online.
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Speaker 2: You are going to see the sort of thing we're
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Speaker 2: going to talk about here. Okay, so I'm going to
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Speaker 2: come back to roadblocks. But whether it's Minecraft, all of Duty,
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Speaker 2: fill in the blank for any popular game, because the
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Speaker 2: these games are you know, massive multiplayer games where you
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Speaker 2: can still go old school and display by yourself, but
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Speaker 2: most people play online against other players.
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Speaker 1: Fortnight, yeah, ge a bunch of people from literally anywhere
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Speaker 1: in the world with headphones on, talking to each other
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Speaker 1: and while playing the game. I get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. I'm not sure your child is
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Speaker 2: right there. I'm not sure that you know, maybe grandparents
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Speaker 2: who haven't played these games really understand or haven't seen them.
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Speaker 2: You know, My these kinds of games where you could
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Speaker 2: play against each other became a thing like, you know,
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Speaker 2: right as or of the right as I was becoming
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Speaker 2: an adult. You know, my older kids have all played
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Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. But it's you know, whether it's
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Speaker 2: social media, it's sites, like discord, Slack, Reddit. If people
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Speaker 2: can talk to your kids, whether in chat or even
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Speaker 2: worse you like you said, with a headphone and the microphone,
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Speaker 2: You're gonna You're gonna have to think about this as
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Speaker 2: a parent. Yes, but reading from this article in the
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Speaker 2: Boston Chronicle and a letter sent to Roadblock Sunday night,
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Speaker 2: parents demanded the company sees what they called quote improper
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Speaker 2: and shameful attempts to force vulnerable, sexually abused, and exploited
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Speaker 2: children into secret arbitration pendings unquote. Signatory is Heil from Washington, California, Florida,
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Speaker 2: and Texas, detailing cases where children were allegedly targeted by predators.
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Speaker 2: The letter emphasized that these children quote or deserve quote
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Speaker 2: their day in court unquote. So again, if I were
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Speaker 2: a parent of young children or a grandparent of young children,
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Speaker 2: I would be talking I was a grand grandparent talking
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Speaker 2: to my kids. If I'm the parent, I would be
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Speaker 2: talking to my kids about Hey, if you're online in
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Speaker 2: these games? Right, And because this article goes on the same,
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty parents sent a similar letter to
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Speaker 2: discord keusing the communication platform of facilitating predator contact with
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Speaker 2: miners who first interacted on roadblocks. Now, in theory, right,
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Speaker 2: kids aren't supposed to be playing these things because of
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Speaker 2: the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act unless they're over thirteen
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Speaker 2: or have their parents' permission. We know this sort of
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Speaker 2: stuff doesn't really work. You know, you and I have
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Speaker 2: talked about this off and on over the years, and
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Speaker 2: you know the behavior. I think another thing parents need
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Speaker 2: to think about is the companies that are building these games,
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Speaker 2: providing these platforms and so forth, have an incentive to
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Speaker 2: get you to play the game, get on the platform,
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Speaker 2: and then stay there as long as possible. The longer
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Speaker 2: you're there, the more money they can make, whether it's
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Speaker 2: through showing you ads, collecting data they're going to sell,
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Speaker 2: getting you to buy in game items with real money.
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Speaker 2: This is a reminder, folks, that's the thing you play
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Speaker 2: that you sign up for a free game, but you
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Speaker 2: can power up and buy things you need to make
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Speaker 2: the game, you know, to become more powerful in the
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Speaker 2: game by spending real world money in some cases. So
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Speaker 2: there's a natural incentive to want to keep you on
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Speaker 2: these platforms, in the game as long as possible, especially
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Speaker 2: if the game is free. Remember, Brian, we've said this
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Speaker 2: a million times on your show. If you're not paying
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Speaker 2: with money, paying with data, you are not the customer,
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Speaker 2: you are the product. So, you know, I encourage everyone
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Speaker 2: that can hear this today to look into these things,
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Speaker 2: understand what's happening in these games on these platforms. And
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that your kid can't play the game
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Speaker 2: safely or use the platform or whatever. I'm saying. There
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Speaker 2: are bad people out there. We know this. People have
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Speaker 2: been arrested, people have gone to jail. Law enforcement has
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Speaker 2: warned about this. There are bad people out there using
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Speaker 2: these platforms to get to kids. You need to warn
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Speaker 2: your kids about it. You need to understand what these
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Speaker 2: lawsuits are saying and then decide, you know, does it
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Speaker 2: make sense to let them use certain platforms or play
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Speaker 2: certain games, or at least do it without any sort
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Speaker 2: of parental supervision an awareness for the child that this
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Speaker 2: kind of thing is happening. Yeah, because, you know, Brian,
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Speaker 2: in some cases, the sex thirtation that has happened as
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Speaker 2: a result of one of these platforms has led kids
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Speaker 2: to kill themselves. Yes, right, you know, so it's a
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Speaker 2: serious concern. I encourage every parent and grandparent to look
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Speaker 2: into this. You know, find my substack where all these
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Speaker 2: links will be find me through LinkedIn or x I
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Speaker 2: share this stuff all the time, learn about it and
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Speaker 2: warn your kids.
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, just keep them off the damn stuff period
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Speaker 1: in the story. If that's possible, sex if you want
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Speaker 1: to think about KARCD talk station one more with tech
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Speaker 1: Briddy's Dave Hatter interest dot com, Dave had or digital IDs.
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Speaker 1: I guess Idaho is saying no to the mandatory digital
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Speaker 1: identification in any form. This sounds like it's coming to
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Speaker 1: a theater near us. What's the story on this one?
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Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, this was some good news on this front
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Speaker 2: in my opinion. So, Idaho, through Senate Bill twelve ninety nine,
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Speaker 2: has a new law that the governor signed off on
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Speaker 2: there that basically says you cannot be forced, as a
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Speaker 2: resident of Heido, Idaho to use digital ID. They say
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Speaker 2: in this article. Let's well. The bill creates section sixty
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Speaker 2: seven twenty three sixty four of the Idaho Code prohibiting
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Speaker 2: government anys from requiring quote any person to obtain, maintain, present,
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Speaker 2: or use digital identification unquote. Goes on to say that
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Speaker 2: approximately three quarters of US states are currently offering or
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Speaker 2: developing electronic driver's license. You know there's a push to
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Speaker 2: go this way. Now, before I come back to this,
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Speaker 2: I want to reach you another headline, Brian, and see
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Speaker 2: if you can connect the dots for me. Right, So,
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Speaker 2: this is from tech Crunch. France confirms data breach at
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Speaker 2: a government at government agency that manages citizens' IDs. Now,
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Speaker 2: what do you think could go wrong? Or or going
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Speaker 2: back to where we started with this segment and have
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Speaker 2: discussed so many times, what do you think could go
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Speaker 2: wrong with undersea cables, cut power grid down, telecom grid down,
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Speaker 2: Chinese mountware in all the chips and all of this equipment.
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Speaker 2: Nation state actor like Iran decides to attack this equipment
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Speaker 2: and turn it off. If your ID and all of
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Speaker 2: your money were digital, what do you think could go
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Speaker 2: wrong and what do you think might happen if suddenly
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Speaker 2: you could not identify yourself to get to your money,
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Speaker 2: or all your money was inaccessible for some other reason
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Speaker 2: because it's digital, or these systems were just corrupted so
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Speaker 2: your identity does not line up with your money anymore.
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Speaker 2: Because you know, technology always works perfectly, We've never seen
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Speaker 2: an example like ransomware where systems get encrypted and destroyed. Right, So,
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Speaker 2: what do you think would happen, Brian, when.
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Speaker 1: We only have a couple minutes left day, We could
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Speaker 1: talk for an hour and forty five minutes on the
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Speaker 1: potential downside of that and probably still not cover all
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Speaker 1: the areas.
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Speaker 2: It's very disturbing to me that we're rushing into so
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Speaker 2: much of this. Again, it's not that I'm against this stuff,
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Speaker 2: it's that it's moving very quickly. It's all really immature.
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Speaker 2: We're not thinking about the long term consequences of things like, well,
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Speaker 2: everything's digital and now the power is down. The telecom
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Speaker 2: grid that makes it all work is down. But real quick,
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Speaker 2: last couple things in here. The bill goes further than
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Speaker 2: a simple opt out. Prohibits public entities from denying, delaying, conditioning,
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Speaker 2: or reducing any service benefit, license, employment, education, or access
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Speaker 2: based on a person's refusal or inability to use digital ID.
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Speaker 2: And then they're going to explain it. So you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm hoping everyone that listens this listens to this. I've
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Speaker 2: already reached out to all of the legislators I know
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Speaker 2: in Kentucky and said this is this is the way
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Speaker 2: I hope everyone that is hearing us in Ohio, Indiana
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Speaker 2: wherever else reaches out to their legislators. I'll be posting
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Speaker 2: this as a link in my substack from today's show,
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Speaker 2: so it'll be easy to find. And this is the
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Speaker 2: right direction. I'm not saying we should not have digital
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Speaker 2: ID at all. What I'm seeing is you should not
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Speaker 2: be required to use it. You should not be required
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Speaker 2: to use digital money, because there's just too much risk
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Speaker 2: in the system. Anything that is digital can be hacked.
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Speaker 2: We see this every day, and this is the right direction,
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Speaker 2: So I it's worth folks time to read this.
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Speaker 1: My only concern is that the on a federal level,
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Speaker 1: they would mandate this digital ID in the federal supremacy
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Speaker 1: clause would trump Idaho's ban on it. Any other state
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Speaker 1: that might choose to bank it.
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Speaker 2: Well, Brian, you know we can't even seem to get
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Speaker 2: them to care about your privacy at the federal level.
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Speaker 1: That's true.
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Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't seem like there's much happening now.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on behind the scenes at
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Speaker 2: the federal level, but you know, I don't see any
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Speaker 2: direct acts on this. Now. We've talked about central bank
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Speaker 2: digital currency. There are people talking about it, there are
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Speaker 2: people that want it, But I haven't seen any cohesion
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Speaker 2: around this at the federal level to date the life
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Speaker 2: that I'm aware of.
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Speaker 1: They tried to stop it with the legislation that was
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Speaker 1: passed to to refund part at least most of the
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Speaker 1: government the other day that had to be pulled. The
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Speaker 1: language had to be pulled because the Senate would not
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Speaker 1: abide with the with prohibiting central bank digital currency. So
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Speaker 1: it sounds to me like that's probably coming in our
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Speaker 1: direction too, And what a privacy invasion that will be.
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Speaker 1: Every single dollar we spent in digital currency track they
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Speaker 1: know what you buy, where you buy it, when you
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Speaker 1: buy it. I hate that. David just frightens the hell
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Speaker 1: out of me.
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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan either, not only for all the
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Speaker 2: reasons you've just stated, but again, if the system goes
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Speaker 2: down for whatever reason, especially for any tend a period
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Speaker 2: of time than what.
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Speaker 1: You know, and you say something like that out loud
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Speaker 1: as we part company, Dave, We're gonna leave in a
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Speaker 1: sour note. I think about all the investments we all
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Speaker 1: have or digitize in the form of our four oh
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Speaker 1: one K plans or retirement plans. You can see it
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Speaker 1: on paper, It's there in the digital form. Look at
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Speaker 1: your financial planner's screen. Oh my god, it's right there.
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Speaker 1: The electricity goes out. I can't even see what's on
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Speaker 1: the screen. Where happened to my account?
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Speaker 2: Right? It's yes, Dave Hatter.
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Speaker 1: That's why we have you to freak us out every
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Speaker 1: Friday for a half hour. We'll do it again next
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Speaker 1: Friday and heed Dave's advice. And if you need Dave's
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Speaker 1: help for your business interest it dot com. Thank you
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Speaker 1: to your company and you Dave, for doing what you
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Speaker 1: do every week here on the program. Have a wonderful weekend,
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Speaker 1: and I'll look forward to next week in another edition
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Speaker 1: of Let's scare the hell out of my audience with
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Speaker 1: Dave Hatter.
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Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian, look at look this stuff up yourself, folks,
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Speaker 2: don't take my word for it.
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Speaker 1: No, he's right. Thanks man. We have a great week.
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Speaker 1: We again six fifty seven.