Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Rewarding Bad Behavior (SLOMW Recap Ep 4-5)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in
- 0:12Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.
- 0:15Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I know you had a
- 0:16Speaker 1: treatment yesterday.
- 0:17Speaker 3: I had a treatment yesterday.
- 0:20Speaker 2: I'm feeling okay. I'm having a little bit of, I mean,
- 0:26Speaker 2: I'm glad today. I'm glad and I'm also bummed it's
- 0:29Speaker 2: therapy day today.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Because I have to have like my talk therapy.
- 0:34Speaker 1: The worst.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Yeah, the worst.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Because like I'm going through a lot and I just,
- 0:40Speaker 2: it's an interesting feeling of knowing like there's just this
- 0:45Speaker 2: inside like fear that I'm trying to be positive about
- 0:48Speaker 2: all the time.
- 0:49Speaker 3: But I'm just, you know, there's constant.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Inside fear that cancer is going to come back?
- 0:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Oh.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Because now I've gone four months without a scan. Yeah.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Yeah, but you did this the last time, too. And
- 1:03Speaker 1: I think it's normal to have fear because of everything
- 1:06Speaker 1: you've gone through. Remember last time you were so scared
- 1:10Speaker 1: and they said everything's good.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14Speaker 1: And the doctor told you, you know, you could go
- 1:16Speaker 1: off the treatment if you wanted to, but he would
- 1:18Speaker 1: prefer you not to.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:19Speaker 2: So I'm staying on. I'm fighting through it. It does
- 1:24Speaker 2: at least make me feel a little bit better when
- 1:27Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I'm going to go get my,
- 1:29Speaker 2: when I talk about it and people are like, oh,
- 1:30Speaker 2: I'm going to go get my skin checked or I'm
- 1:31Speaker 2: going to go get this tested.
- 1:33Speaker 1: I need to go. I haven't gone in probably a year,
- 1:35Speaker 1: which is not like me.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to definitely go.
- 1:41Speaker 2: We are recapping Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Oh, and you saw the headline, right? Yesterday?
- 1:47Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:48Speaker 4: And I love that one of the.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Creators that always talks about Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
- 1:55Speaker 2: is like, you know, I think TMZ is a pretty
- 1:58Speaker 2: accurate news outlet at this point. So we're going to
- 2:02Speaker 2: believe what they're saying.
- 2:03Speaker 1: But are they or are they not? I don't know.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I don't really follow that.
- 2:06Speaker 2: I feel like TMZ is, even though It posted that
- 2:09Speaker 2: picture of that like football player who like supposedly had
- 2:12Speaker 2: like his- Oh, the one that.
- 2:13Speaker 1: I put in the group chat. I'm like, what's wrong
- 2:15Speaker 1: with him? That's a lot of growth hormone. And it
- 2:17Speaker 1: was like prosthetics.
- 2:19Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, and he pranked us all. So, I mean,
- 2:21Speaker 3: I don't really know because.
- 2:23Speaker 2: They- But Taylor Frankie Paul allegedly failed multiple drug tests.
- 2:29Speaker 2: We're told the court ordered- that she be limited to
- 2:32Speaker 2: eight hours of parenting time each week, four with her
- 2:36Speaker 2: two kids with Tate and four with her child with Dakota.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Did you notice that they're blurring out Evers' face, even
- 2:45Speaker 1: if the two of them are together with him? Yeah.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I want to believe it's a court. I think it's
- 2:49Speaker 1: a court-ordered thing. I bet you anything.
- 2:51Speaker 3: I bet you. Yeah, I think they're trying to protect it.
- 2:54Speaker 4: I mean, sources close to— Like the parents?
- 2:58Speaker 3: No, I think the courts are.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Those two idiots.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Because also the courts are saying you're not allowed, they
- 3:04Speaker 2: weren't allowed to, I guess this happened a while ago,
- 3:08Speaker 2: and everything was, the courts were told that they had
- 3:12Speaker 2: to seal all of this information.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Like, so the fact that it's coming out now?
- 3:18Speaker 1: Well, anything about the children I think should be sealed, honestly.
- 3:21Speaker 1: I agree. I personally think all court stuff should be sealed.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I think it's a personal matter. I don't think everybody needs,
- 3:27Speaker 1: especially nowadays with social media and everybody wants to judge you.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And like, I don't know why it has to be public.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:35Speaker 2: I mean, cause they're saying there's a, well, a source
- 3:38Speaker 2: close to TMZ Dakota says there's been a strict gag
- 3:42Speaker 2: order in the case. So they view any information leaked
- 3:45Speaker 2: to the media as the continuation of the harassment and
- 3:48Speaker 2: intimidation of Taylor's experience throughout the custody battle.
- 3:53Speaker 1: So somebody leaked this information? This wasn't public information?
- 3:57Speaker 3: This isn't public information. Oh. Yeah, someone's leaking it.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Oh, gee, I wonder who. Yeah, but I— Let me
- 4:05Speaker 1: ask you a question. When is enough enough, Hulu? When
- 4:08Speaker 1: is enough enough? All the stuff that's happened between just
- 4:13Speaker 1: the way her— She's acting on this whole season, season five,
- 4:17Speaker 1: the way she acts, the way her eyes are bugged
- 4:18Speaker 1: out of her head and she's shaking and chewing on
- 4:20Speaker 1: her mouth the entire time. Then, you know, the video
- 4:24Speaker 1: and the whole show gets canceled with The Bachelorette. And
- 4:27Speaker 1: now this. And it's like, you know, somebody quits. And
- 4:31Speaker 1: it's like, do you think TV is the best thing
- 4:34Speaker 1: for these two?
- 4:35Speaker 2: Well, I also like, I mean, I have to really
- 4:39Speaker 2: put it in perspective.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Eight hours a week total.
- 4:44Speaker 2: With all of her children, and she's sitting there on
- 4:48Speaker 2: episode three talking about how she wants to have another one.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Get this girl off TV. And you see on the
- 4:57Speaker 1: show where the girls are afraid of her. Not so
- 5:02Speaker 1: much afraid of her. They're afraid of her fans because
- 5:06Speaker 1: her fans cannot do anything in their eyes. She can't
- 5:10Speaker 1: do anything wrong. Which is mind-blowing.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Like, yes, we're all rooting for her.
- 5:17Speaker 1: We are.
- 5:18Speaker 4: But get her off TV.
- 5:20Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that every, you're correct, every single
- 5:23Speaker 2: one of the girls isn't necessarily afraid of Taylor.
- 5:26Speaker 3: They're afraid of her fans and what they're going to get. Yeah.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Yeah, they say it in one of the episodes, either
- 5:31Speaker 1: four or five. I can't remember. Maybe it was five.
- 5:33Speaker 1: It's like, we're afraid of her. You know, and they're
- 5:35Speaker 1: so supportive of her. But then I'm like, do they
- 5:38Speaker 1: really want to be this supportive?
- 5:40Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I think that's really why Michaela left.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I mean, how can you with... Justice for Michaela.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I mean, it's different than any housewife show or anything
- 5:50Speaker 2: like that. I've never seen kids broken down like this.
- 5:54Speaker 1: This is very Jerry Springer shit. It's getting a little
- 5:58Speaker 1: bit too much. Like, rewarding bad behavior constantly. Like, I
- 6:04Speaker 1: get it. She obviously has some... If this is true,
- 6:07Speaker 1: she obviously has some kind of problem.
- 6:10Speaker 2: But I also want to know what kind of drugs
- 6:12Speaker 2: because it said something along the lines of it's something
- 6:14Speaker 2: that's not able to be prescribed.
- 6:17Speaker 3: So then I'm like, is it cocaine?
- 6:18Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Like what is she on?
- 6:22Speaker 1: What about like, what's ketamine? What's that? Is that one
- 6:26Speaker 1: of those psychedelic drugs?
- 6:27Speaker 3: No, you can be prescribed for that. That's legal.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Fentanyl?
- 6:33Speaker 3: Well, I don't think people just take fentanyl.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It's laced into drugs and that's what people die from.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Like that's I don't know that.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Much about this stuff, but it could be cocaine. I
- 6:43Speaker 1: don't know.
- 6:44Speaker 3: I just watched it.
- 6:46Speaker 2: It's like an old show, and it's based on a
- 6:48Speaker 2: true story. You need to watch it. It's called Painkiller.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Did I see that? Is it old?
- 6:55Speaker 2: It's a couple years old, and it's about how big
- 6:59Speaker 2: pharma does all of these things with different medications and
- 7:05Speaker 2: how OxyContin became One of the most popular medications.
- 7:09Speaker 1: It sounds familiar. It really does.
- 7:11Speaker 4: Like I was riveted.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Okay. I, speaking of like documentaries, I watched the Celine Dion.
- 7:20Speaker 1: I am Celine.
- 7:22Speaker 3: How was it?
- 7:24Speaker 1: Heartbreaking. I had no idea she was that sick.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:31Speaker 1: I had no idea.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Like her one goal was to perform again, I think.
- 7:34Speaker 1: It was six years, I believe, before she performed. But
- 7:37Speaker 1: the woman is a machine. She is on, full of energy,
- 7:41Speaker 1: so much so. She's a hard worker.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Yeah. I need to watch that. I need to watch that.
- 7:51Speaker 1: They show her getting treatment done, and they massage her
- 7:55Speaker 1: body and do all these things because she gets stiff.
- 7:58Speaker 1: And she goes into a seizure on camera.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And it was just so, and she's crying and she
- 8:03Speaker 1: can't move and they're working on her and they're giving
- 8:06Speaker 1: her medication. And it was like a good five minutes
- 8:09Speaker 1: before her body realized. It was just heartbreaking. Cause I
- 8:13Speaker 1: saw Heather Dubrow was, went to Paris to see her show. Yeah.
- 8:17Speaker 1: And she had tweeted that she was an hour late.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Yeah. She's probably trying to.
- 8:23Speaker 1: And she said, God, I hope she's okay. And I thought, well,
- 8:26Speaker 1: why did like what? And I saw that there was
- 8:28Speaker 1: a documentary and I was just, Wasn't interested in it
- 8:31Speaker 1: in the past. And I went, let me watch that.
- 8:33Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my goodness. Now I know why
- 8:35Speaker 1: Heather made that comment. It's because she's so sick.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Yeah, she's so sick.
- 8:39Speaker 2: And imagine the energy that it takes to go out
- 8:41Speaker 2: on tour and do that.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Especially her energy. Watch the show and you're like, she
- 8:47Speaker 1: is on.
- 8:48Speaker 4: All the time.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Well, and she's always so funny and on the joke.
- 8:53Speaker 1: She's funny. She's raw. She doesn't have a ton of
- 8:57Speaker 1: people following her, doing things for her. She does a
- 9:00Speaker 1: lot of stuff by herself. You see her even doing
- 9:02Speaker 1: her own makeup. Yeah.
- 9:04Speaker 2: I mean, she is, again, just she's incredible. Yeah, she is.
- 9:10Speaker 2: But yeah, we love our documentaries. But I mean, back
- 9:13Speaker 2: to what we're actually here to talk about.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Secret Life of the Mormon Wives, episode four
- 9:21Speaker 1: and five, right? So we are at breakfast in New York.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Jen apologizes to Whitney for saying she wasn't rooting for
- 9:29Speaker 1: her on Dancing with the Stars. But then Jen brings
- 9:31Speaker 1: up something from season one, which is like when she
- 9:36Speaker 1: called her a bad friend. It's always annoying. There's got
- 9:40Speaker 1: to be a statue of limitation. You know what I mean?
- 9:43Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what?
- 9:44Speaker 1: If it's two episodes, two seasons ago, three seasons, like, no, stop.
- 9:48Speaker 1: You don't need to bring it up, especially if it's
- 9:50Speaker 1: already been discussed.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And like they're discussing it and it's just such.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Not the right time for Jen to be discussing this,
- 9:58Speaker 2: in my opinion, with.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Whitney.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Well, you know what it means to me?
- 10:03Speaker 1: Is that Jen is only bringing this up from season
- 10:06Speaker 1: one because she has nothing else, and she's trying to justify.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Why she said she wasn't voting for Whitney.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:15Speaker 4: But also, it's like, I don't know.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Jen claims Whitney hasn't been listening to her perspective, which
- 10:20Speaker 2: forces Whitney to just give up on the conversation.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Whitney is over it. Okay.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I wanted to pound my head against the wall during
- 10:27Speaker 1: this conversation because Whitney was being very nice about things
- 10:32Speaker 1: and listening to her. And she's listening and she's like,
- 10:36Speaker 1: you're not listening. She goes, is there more?
- 10:38Speaker 4: No, I said it all.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Okay.
- 10:40Speaker 4: I heard it all. Like, what do you want?
- 10:44Speaker 2: I think, you know, but also, I mean, Clearly, Jen
- 10:48Speaker 2: Affleck has an issue with communication.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Like, she's not great at it.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:52Speaker 2: But, like, also Whitney was, I think Whitney was poking
- 10:56Speaker 2: it a little bit.
- 10:57Speaker 3: Like, okay.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Like, tell me.
- 11:01Speaker 2: What it is.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Well, I think Whitney can come off a little condescending.
- 11:04Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. But Jen calling everyone fake and transactional is
- 11:08Speaker 1: wild when she barely has a relationship with them.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she decides to hang out in the corner.
- 11:15Speaker 2: All the girls are like, all right, let's do a TikTok.
- 11:17Speaker 2: And then Jen's like, no, I'm just going to be
- 11:19Speaker 2: in the corner. And then she's in the corner just
- 11:21Speaker 2: doing her own TikTok.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Like, what? I laugh every time I see somebody doing
- 11:30Speaker 1: that out in public.
- 11:31Speaker 4: But also just go with the other.
- 11:32Speaker 1: What is wrong with our world?
- 11:33Speaker 2: Yeah, like you came to this event for a reason.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Then suck it up and go over and do the
- 11:37Speaker 2: TikTok with all of them.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I mean, for the past few seasons, we've heard that
- 11:43Speaker 1: she doesn't answer their texts. She doesn't barely want to film.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Why is she on this cast? Well, she moved over
- 11:52Speaker 1: to Orange County, didn't she?
- 11:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Maybe it's a better fit for her.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Maybe it is.
- 11:56Speaker 2: But I feel like Jen is like Countess Luann.
- 11:59Speaker 3: Like, she's like.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Delusional?
- 12:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:04Speaker 4: She's like, you know what?
- 12:05Speaker 3: I won't be with the group of girls. I'll just
- 12:07Speaker 3: do it myself. Yeah. So it's pretty funny.
- 12:13Speaker 2: But then back at the penthouse, Taylor asked Ben about
- 12:18Speaker 2: their future. He says he's dating to Mary, and he
- 12:22Speaker 2: can see Taylor being his future wife.
- 12:25Speaker 1: This also took.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Me off guard because I've never heard that. One, we've
- 12:30Speaker 2: seen them meet one time.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Taylor makes no sense at all.
- 12:34Speaker 1: She's a walking contradiction. She met him once. We saw
- 12:38Speaker 1: him last season. Then she said she was in love
- 12:41Speaker 1: with him, and then she meets with him. She's like, nope, sorry,
- 12:44Speaker 1: we're done.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Yeah, but also the day before, she was seriously asking
- 12:49Speaker 2: him about their kids going to church together and what
- 12:52Speaker 2: the plan was.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Something not right with that one. Something we missed. And
- 13:03Speaker 3: by the way.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question?
- 13:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Does Taylor know she's on TV?
- 13:08Speaker 4: I think she knows.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Why does she not have a brush? I think she knows,
- 13:13Speaker 2: but I think that's her look. I'm going to say
- 13:16Speaker 2: tink all the time now.
- 13:17Speaker 1: She wears the same sweat the Amazon set. The sweats
- 13:21Speaker 1: and the tight long-sleeved T-shirt that's a little cropped.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And her Uggs to everything.
- 13:28Speaker 3: She doesn't care what it is. It could be at dinner.
- 13:30Speaker 4: No makeup, no hairbrush, no nothing.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Is that why America loves her so much?
- 13:35Speaker 4: I think she's just.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Because she just doesn't try?
- 13:38Speaker 2: I guess they think she just doesn't give a fuck,
- 13:40Speaker 2: but I think she gives a lot of fucks because
- 13:43Speaker 2: every time she goes on her own social media, she's
- 13:46Speaker 2: defending herself and talking about.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Why she's so great.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Why is she so great?
- 13:52Speaker 2: Because she's got star factor. She's got the it thing
- 13:56Speaker 2: that people want to see.
- 13:58Speaker 1: She's the train wreck that everybody wants to watch?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I guess the girls all think that
- 14:03Speaker 2: she's just so relatable, like her fans.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to be relatable.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean.
- 14:13Speaker 1: You don't have to look homeless.
- 14:17Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of think she looks cute.
- 14:19Speaker 1: We're relatable every morning when we do this podcast.
- 14:22Speaker 4: If I don't get different color sweatsuits soon, we need
- 14:26Speaker 4: to get.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I found this one hanging in my closet. I don't
- 14:31Speaker 1: even know where.
- 14:31Speaker 4: I probably bought it off of Amazon.
- 14:33Speaker 1: It's kind of cute. It's kind of like a free
- 14:36Speaker 1: people knockoff.
- 14:38Speaker 4: We need to just.
- 14:39Speaker 2: Get uniform sweats that are two tees in a pod,
- 14:42Speaker 2: but we just wear them every day.
- 14:44Speaker 1: We're too cheap for that. That would come out of
- 14:46Speaker 1: our budget. Then we'd have to add more ads to our.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that everyone's giving us a lashing today
- 14:53Speaker 2: about our ads.
- 14:53Speaker 4: We are lashing about too many ads on the podcast.
- 14:57Speaker 3: As if we're picking out the ads, guys. The ads
- 15:00Speaker 3: are so we can be here right now.
- 15:02Speaker 4: Then I feel like in true Taylor.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Fashion, as right, you know, after they talk about future wife,
- 15:10Speaker 2: she decides now would be the perfect time to tell
- 15:12Speaker 2: him she isn't healed enough for a relationship and breaks
- 15:15Speaker 2: up with him.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Uh, did Ben, one down, two to go.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Like what the fuck.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Did Ben dodge the biggest bullet ever?
- 15:24Speaker 1: Yes.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Yes.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Ben run.
- 15:27Speaker 2: I'm like, Ben, you can easily just find a girl
- 15:31Speaker 2: that doesn't drink water from the bathtub.
- 15:33Speaker 4: You're going to be okay.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Like, It's going to be okay.
- 15:37Speaker 2: I mean, she must have a golden vagine.
- 15:39Speaker 3: I mean, she's cute.
- 15:42Speaker 4: They're digmatized.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Here's the thing. She's cute. She's adorable. But I feel
- 15:47Speaker 1: like that toxic energy, like some people are so like
- 15:52Speaker 1: obsessed with that.
- 15:54Speaker 3: I couldn't want anything less.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 15:57Speaker 3: I couldn't.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Most normal people don't want that shit.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Like an argument could send me, like if somebody wanted
- 16:04Speaker 2: to argue with me right now, it would send me
- 16:07Speaker 2: over that.
- 16:07Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:08Speaker 1: Eddie used to date crazies.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:10Speaker 1: And he married this one. Oh, by the way, did
- 16:13Speaker 1: you see my post about Eddie?
- 16:15Speaker 4: Was that him in the.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Shower just covering his ding dong?
- 16:18Speaker 1: That is him in the shower covering his ding dong. And,
- 16:22Speaker 1: you know, he posted me in the dog cage, you know,
- 16:27Speaker 1: cleaning that I was on all four, whatever. And so
- 16:31Speaker 1: I said, I will get you back for that. And
- 16:34Speaker 1: so he's like, I'm going to give the dogs, take
- 16:36Speaker 1: them in the shower. I'm like, okay, cool. And I
- 16:38Speaker 1: was on my computer. I thought, oh, this is a
- 16:41Speaker 1: great time. So I snuck in there and I took
- 16:44Speaker 1: a couple that didn't turn out great. And then he
- 16:46Speaker 1: saw me and he's like, flip me off. And then
- 16:51Speaker 1: I posted it. And then he said, oh, great. Now
- 16:54Speaker 1: they're going to say that Eddie can cover his junk
- 16:56Speaker 1: with one hand. The water was cold.
- 17:04Speaker 3: It's okay, Eddie. The water was cold.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Oh, well. I said, well, I did put a little
- 17:10Speaker 1: sensor over it. I saw little pubes poking out.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Yeah, a cute little sensor. A cute little baby sensor
- 17:16Speaker 3: to cover it up. But I liked it. I was like,
- 17:19Speaker 3: I knew payback's a bitch.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Oh, I can only imagine what's going to come next.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 1: I'm like, I can keep this going. I can keep
- 17:26Speaker 1: this shit going. So can he.
- 17:27Speaker 3: So can he. I know. Your next one, hopefully you
- 17:30Speaker 3: can bark like a dog again.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Oh, God. I'm never doing that again.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Ever. Jeez.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Then back in Utah, Jen's questioning whether or not mom
- 17:41Speaker 2: talk is still her community.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I feel like she's been questioning this. Jen, go be
- 17:47Speaker 4: a singer.
- 17:47Speaker 1: That's what you really want to do.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Jen, you're just going.
- 17:51Speaker 2: To get pregnant and have another baby, move somewhere else,
- 17:54Speaker 2: be on another show.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Wait, isn't she pregnant?
- 17:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:57Speaker 1: She's pregnant again?
- 17:58Speaker 3: Yes, but she's not pregnant this season. She's pregnant next season.
- 18:01Speaker 1: And will this be her fourth or fifth?
- 18:04Speaker 3: I think her fourth, but I actually have no idea.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Her fourth. At the ripe old age of 25? Yeah.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 2: But then in dueling scenes, Jen and Whitney tell their
- 18:18Speaker 2: husbands their POV is on how their chats went. Both
- 18:23Speaker 2: of the women don't seem confident in repairing a friendship.
- 18:28Speaker 2: But like, do you think Jen's always playing the victim here?
- 18:31Speaker 2: Or do you think that Whitney's being kind of a
- 18:33Speaker 2: dick to Jen?
- 18:34Speaker 1: I think both. I think there's a little bit of both.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I think that Whitney is, she's intelligent. She's confident. She's
- 18:41Speaker 1: all the things. She speaks well for herself. And then
- 18:45Speaker 1: you have Jen, who is like a little tiny mouse
- 18:49Speaker 1: that's like, you know, I don't know.
- 18:52Speaker 2: She needs to practice what she's going to say first.
- 18:56Speaker 4: On somebody.
- 18:57Speaker 3: I tried that. It doesn't work.
- 18:59Speaker 1: I think like Whitney says, everyone in mom talk is
- 19:05Speaker 1: growing with new opportunities while Jen is stuck in the past. Well,
- 19:09Speaker 1: Jen just did Dancing with the Stars, so it's not
- 19:11Speaker 1: like she's. doesn't have any opportunity she did put a
- 19:15Speaker 1: music room in her house and she's going to be
- 19:18Speaker 1: a singer and she's going to be on sports illustrated and.
- 19:21Speaker 4: She wants to be an actor i mean she wants
- 19:23Speaker 4: one of her with her booster chair and on the
- 19:27Speaker 4: cd shell.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Now that's all i get on my instagram not all
- 19:31Speaker 1: but i get those in florida if you're five foot
- 19:34Speaker 1: two and under you have to have a booster seat
- 19:36Speaker 1: you see like women grown-ass women in a booster seat
- 19:38Speaker 1: with a sad face.
- 19:39Speaker 2: I know it's so funny But do you think that
- 19:43Speaker 2: Jen's like playing a victim here when it comes to
- 19:46Speaker 2: Whitney or.
- 19:47Speaker 3: She's just this is how she is? i think she's.
- 19:52Speaker 1: She's always playing a victim yeah yeah i think that
- 19:58Speaker 1: that's just who she is yeah I mean, I.
- 20:02Speaker 4: Want to see her smile.
- 20:03Speaker 1: She's never smiling. She's never having a good time. Everything
- 20:05Speaker 1: is devastating. There's always a problem. She hates her husband,
- 20:08Speaker 1: which I actually really like her husband now.
- 20:12Speaker 4: Well, he seems like he's trying.
- 20:14Speaker 2: He seems like he's trying to support her and going
- 20:18Speaker 2: all over the place for her. But I mean, clearly,
- 20:21Speaker 2: not only is he doing it to support her, he also,
- 20:24Speaker 2: he doesn't have a job.
- 20:25Speaker 1: I wonder how much money they're making on this show.
- 20:29Speaker 3: I don't know, but- That's why I think they're all
- 20:32Speaker 3: doing so many things.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Well, because they get a lot of opportunities. They all
- 20:39Speaker 1: got EP credits.
- 20:42Speaker 2: But then Miranda consoles Layla after her breakup with Mason.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Layla feels like she gives everyone all of her and
- 20:51Speaker 2: doesn't receive anything in return. When it comes to men, right?
- 20:56Speaker 3: When it comes to men.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Do you think Mason was in for the right reasons?
- 21:03Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think, I never got to see
- 21:05Speaker 2: them really talking or connecting.
- 21:09Speaker 4: It's hard. That's what I was going to say.
- 21:10Speaker 1: It's very hard to judge their relationship from the outside
- 21:14Speaker 1: because his brother didn't talk.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not talk.
- 21:18Speaker 1: The boy did not speak. He didn't talk.
- 21:20Speaker 2: He didn't necessarily seem like he was very loving towards her.
- 21:28Speaker 2: I don't know if that's his shyness of being on
- 21:30Speaker 2: camera or if that's how he actually was.
- 21:33Speaker 1: If you're that shy, you wouldn't be on camera.
- 21:36Speaker 2: But also, if you're that shy, what is she expecting?
- 21:40Speaker 3: She met him and he's acting like this. What does
- 21:42Speaker 3: she think is going to change?
- 21:44Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she's a lovely girl. I
- 21:47Speaker 1: think she's just, like everybody has said, just such insecurities
- 21:53Speaker 1: and issues from the past that she needs to get over.
- 21:56Speaker 1: I think she just needs to be by herself. I
- 21:58Speaker 1: said that last time we recapped this. Be by yourself
- 22:02Speaker 1: for a little while. Try to figure things out before
- 22:05Speaker 1: you go and make the same mistake all over again.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Well, I have good news in regards to Layla.
- 22:10Speaker 1: She's a lesbian.
- 22:11Speaker 3: Her boobs have settled in.
- 22:14Speaker 1: Well, I think what was happening is that she had
- 22:19Speaker 1: one of those like really high pushup corsets on that
- 22:22Speaker 1: was way too tight. And it was just smashing all
- 22:25Speaker 1: the implants up to her throat. Yeah.
- 22:28Speaker 3: But now I saw them. I'm like, oh, they're cute.
- 22:31Speaker 1: They're nice. Yeah.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Like, so they, she just, maybe I think it was
- 22:36Speaker 3: a dress issue.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Maybe it was halfway through the confessional.
- 22:40Speaker 2: That, like, she got her boobs done, and then they're
- 22:42Speaker 2: back filming, and she had to wear the same thing,
- 22:45Speaker 2: and it just didn't work out the same.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Well, then Jen wants to do a baby blessing for Penny,
- 22:51Speaker 1: but Zach wouldn't be able to do it because he
- 22:53Speaker 1: isn't in good standing with the Mormon church. Now, baby
- 22:58Speaker 1: blessing is when the family brings their baby to the church,
- 23:01Speaker 1: and the dad gives the baby a special blessing.
- 23:03Speaker 3: Is that— that' s— Yeah.
- 23:05Speaker 1: And— So he's not in good standing with the church?
- 23:09Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand how anyone on this show
- 23:11Speaker 2: could be on good standing with the church.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure the church just loves. Salt Lake City
- 23:17Speaker 1: in Utah is just so happy of all the reality
- 23:20Speaker 1: shows that have come out. Oh, yeah.
- 23:22Speaker 3: It's just nonstop.
- 23:23Speaker 1: So they haven't gone to church in a year and
- 23:25Speaker 1: a half because of a judgment from their community about
- 23:28Speaker 1: the show?
- 23:29Speaker 3: Yeah, like they're saying they're being judged. Oh, okay.
- 23:35Speaker 1: So they're afraid to go to church because of all
- 23:37Speaker 1: the judgment?
- 23:38Speaker 2: Well, I think that, if I recall, they were pretty
- 23:42Speaker 2: involved in the church for a while. And then Zach
- 23:45Speaker 2: had some issues, and they kind of fell from going
- 23:48Speaker 2: to church. And that's why he can't bless his own baby, supposedly.
- 23:53Speaker 1: But I kind of understand Zach's point of view. Why
- 23:56Speaker 1: do it just to please others? I don't know.
- 23:58Speaker 2: I feel like she might be the most Mormon one
- 24:01Speaker 2: of them all, and we don't realize it.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Well, she went to church finally in one of these episodes.
- 24:07Speaker 2: And she said that she completely felt different from the
- 24:09Speaker 2: one time she went to church.
- 24:11Speaker 4: But I'm also like, girl, you're not wearing your garments.
- 24:13Speaker 3: I know.
- 24:13Speaker 1: I was just going to say that. He's like, how
- 24:15Speaker 1: would the church feel if you're not wearing your garments?
- 24:17Speaker 1: And they know that you want to do sports.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Illustrate it.
- 24:20Speaker 1: How would the bishop feel about that?
- 24:22Speaker 3: How would the bishop feel?
- 24:24Speaker 1: You can't even make this shit up.
- 24:35Speaker 4: Then we got Michaela, Macy, and Jesse are at lunch.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Michaela thinks that Mason's being on Cameo is a red flag.
- 24:43Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, don't be shit-talking Cameo, man. Don't be.
- 24:48Speaker 4: Get your bag however you can.
- 24:49Speaker 3: I got 10 in the.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Bank I got to do after this.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Just.
- 24:55Speaker 3: I mean, Cameo is the perfect place for problematic men.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Because if Jax Taylor's leading.
- 25:01Speaker 1: You're talking about Jax?
- 25:02Speaker 3: Yeah, because if Jax Taylor's leading the.
- 25:04Speaker 1: I mean, I wish to God I would have thought
- 25:06Speaker 1: of Cameo. Whoever did is making millions. It's a great
- 25:12Speaker 1: little app where you can reach out to one of
- 25:16Speaker 1: your favorite people in Hollywood or TV, whatever, and have
- 25:21Speaker 1: them do a shout out.
- 25:23Speaker 2: And you can get gifts for other people in there,
- 25:25Speaker 2: like gag gifts. I mean, it's just funny.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I've done one for Sophia for her birthday from a
- 25:30Speaker 1: YouTuber once, and she loved it. So I think it's cool.
- 25:36Speaker 1: And I get a lot of them, so I have
- 25:37Speaker 1: fun with them.
- 25:39Speaker 2: But then we also learn that Mason went on a
- 25:43Speaker 2: date within 24 hours after the breakup.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Well, that just shows he was not into her at all.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Layla joins them at lunch, and the girls say they
- 25:54Speaker 2: want her to get the Cartier ring back from Mason.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Layla doesn't want them to. This kind of bugs me. Like,
- 26:00Speaker 2: if she doesn't want to get it back, just let
- 26:03Speaker 2: her be.
- 26:04Speaker 4: Let the other girls do it. But the other girls
- 26:07Speaker 4: try to.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Do it, and then it falls back on her. It's just,
- 26:10Speaker 2: if she bought him presents, she bought him presents. Like,
- 26:13Speaker 2: there's no take-backs on this kind of thing.
- 26:15Speaker 3: I don't get it.
- 26:15Speaker 1: How long were they dating? Like, a year?
- 26:18Speaker 3: I think over a year.
- 26:20Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I mean, if it was a couple, if
- 26:21Speaker 1: it was, like, a month and she did that, then
- 26:23Speaker 1: I'd be like, give the bitch back.
- 26:25Speaker 4: But, like, even if.
- 26:27Speaker 2: It's a month, if she wants to buy something for him,
- 26:30Speaker 2: that is on her.
- 26:32Speaker 1: They were together seven months.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Seven months.
- 26:35Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully she learned her lesson that you just
- 26:38Speaker 1: don't go buy guys gifts, especially somebody like him.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not going to, you know. And if
- 26:44Speaker 3: he is staying because you are buying gifts, that's even
- 26:47Speaker 3: more problematic.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:48Speaker 2: But I mean, maybe her love language is gift giving.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Mine certainly is not. Mine is not either. Then Jesse spills.
- 26:58Speaker 2: that Taylor contacted Dakota about his relationship status after she
- 27:02Speaker 2: ended things with Ben. And as a healthy person does,
- 27:05Speaker 2: Dakota responded by sending her videos of them having sex.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Do you think that Dakota just has, like, a folder of, like,
- 27:16Speaker 2: all the blackmail he can do against Taylor that he
- 27:18Speaker 2: just whips out on a moment's notice?
- 27:20Speaker 3: Or, like, where is all this?
- 27:22Speaker 1: I don't know. But why she's just as dumb to
- 27:25Speaker 1: allow him to video that kind of stuff Yeah, it's just—
- 27:29Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing?
- 27:31Speaker 3: It's beyond.
- 27:33Speaker 4: Then Jen went behind.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Zach's back and scheduled him a meeting with their bishop.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Zach is extremely unhappy about this, leading to Jen say
- 27:43Speaker 2: he only cares about himself. Zach walks away, and Jen
- 27:49Speaker 2: finally goes to him to apologize. He calls her out
- 27:52Speaker 2: for being the one who wanted more progressive life.
- 27:55Speaker 3: I mean, he's right.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 27:58Speaker 4: He's right.
- 27:59Speaker 2: She wanted a different life, and then now she wants
- 28:01Speaker 2: to go back, and it's making him having to, like,
- 28:04Speaker 2: eat crow to get back.
- 28:05Speaker 3: And he's like, I don't want to do that.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Well, and then she's claiming that Zach does bear a minimum.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Zach said he gave up medical school for Jen.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:15Speaker 1: I don't think that was a good move for him
- 28:17Speaker 1: to give up medical school.
- 28:19Speaker 3: I think he was going to give up medical school.
- 28:20Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to say. I don't
- 28:22Speaker 1: think he gave up his dream of being a doctor
- 28:26Speaker 1: for her. I think he really wasn't into it.
- 28:29Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was already one foot in, one
- 28:32Speaker 2: foot out when he started that.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Do you think that Jen wants Zach to look bad
- 28:35Speaker 1: for the viewers? So she kind of crosses the victim
- 28:39Speaker 1: in her marriage?
- 28:40Speaker 2: Well, I think they go back and forth so many
- 28:43Speaker 2: times on how Zach's portrayed that I think she doesn't
- 28:50Speaker 2: know how it's going to come out each season.
- 28:52Speaker 3: So she just.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Every time we see Zach, he's holding a baby. He's
- 28:57Speaker 1: feeding a kid. He's like, yeah, he just seems like
- 29:03Speaker 1: such a nice guy.
- 29:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm sure it's not all nice because
- 29:07Speaker 2: I remember that one season when they were in Vegas
- 29:10Speaker 2: and he was just berating her because she went to the.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Thunder Down Under or whatever.
- 29:17Speaker 3: She went to.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Well, I think that he was— Shippendales.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Shippendales. I think he was a very strong Mormon and
- 29:24Speaker 1: lived by the beliefs. And then they got this show,
- 29:26Speaker 1: and I think things just started crumbling.
- 29:28Speaker 3: No, before that, he was already into gambling.
- 29:31Speaker 4: And, like, remember all that backstory? Like every good religious person.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Um then macy mckayla and jesse and taylor go on
- 29:41Speaker 2: a mission to get the cartier ring back this is
- 29:44Speaker 2: a little performative this is crazy mckayla tells chase she'll
- 29:48Speaker 2: unblock him if he sends mason's new address chase agrees
- 29:52Speaker 2: but he meets them at the house because he was
- 29:55Speaker 2: suspicious Suspicious?
- 29:57Speaker 4: You don't say.
- 29:58Speaker 1: You don't say, right? You're suspicious. Taylor just looks so
- 30:03Speaker 1: underdressed compared to everyone else. All the other girls are
- 30:06Speaker 1: completely done up. Her hair's in knots.
- 30:11Speaker 4: This doesn't even bother me.
- 30:12Speaker 3: I don't even track it anymore.
- 30:14Speaker 2: It's just who she is. That part is the least
- 30:17Speaker 2: of Taylor's issues to me.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I mean, the whole package is an issue. Yeah.
- 30:24Speaker 2: But I mean, the fact that immediately she goes like,
- 30:28Speaker 2: you know, like when it comes to Layla going to
- 30:30Speaker 2: see Mason, Taylor accuses Mason and Michaela.
- 30:33Speaker 3: Of being too judgmental.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And then it somehow turns around on Taylor getting upset
- 30:39Speaker 2: at them.
- 30:39Speaker 3: And then she wants to leave with Dakota.
- 30:42Speaker 1: I'm like.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I just feel like Taylor does not like these girls.
- 30:46Speaker 1: She hates filming with them. She'd rather be around people
- 30:49Speaker 1: who agree with everything that she says. And I think
- 30:52Speaker 1: that's why she spends so much time in her comment section. Yeah.
- 30:56Speaker 1: People that just kiss her ass.
- 30:58Speaker 4: People that kiss her ass. So she wanted to leave
- 31:00Speaker 4: with Chase, rather.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Sorry. Yeah, she wanted to leave with Chase.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Yeah. But then I feel like— I was expecting to go, oh, great,
- 31:07Speaker 1: now she had sex with Chase.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's what we're going to hear. Because remember,
- 31:10Speaker 2: that's how it all started.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 31:14Speaker 2: But Taylor, I feel like maybe these girls just don't
- 31:18Speaker 2: want another friend in a toxic cycle like yours.
- 31:22Speaker 3: And that's just really triggering.
- 31:24Speaker 1: But the way that she was going off, you know,
- 31:26Speaker 1: and then we get to the season finale and it
- 31:28Speaker 1: picks off where it left off. Taylor's pissed and asks
- 31:31Speaker 1: Chase to drive her home. Michaela doesn't think Taylor cares
- 31:34Speaker 1: about any of the friendships. I don't quite frankly think
- 31:36Speaker 1: she does either. So she's ready to set some boundaries.
- 31:40Speaker 1: But you can't set boundaries with this girl. She is unhinged.
- 31:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:44Speaker 2: And then Macy kind of breaks down because she thinks
- 31:46Speaker 2: Taylor has never given a shit about her.
- 31:48Speaker 1: I don't think that Taylor's capable of giving a shit
- 31:53Speaker 1: about anybody.
- 31:54Speaker 4: I don't think Taylor gives a shit about herself.
- 31:57Speaker 2: How in the world is she going to, like, I
- 31:59Speaker 2: think her life is so male-centered. How is she going
- 32:02Speaker 2: to give herself to these women as such a good friend?
- 32:04Speaker 1: I mean, let's not forget how this show started. Yeah.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Her getting arrested, right? And then I think she had
- 32:10Speaker 1: one good season where she got her shit together. And
- 32:14Speaker 1: then we thought, wow, she is, you know, a voice
- 32:17Speaker 1: of reason.
- 32:18Speaker 4: Well, that was when she was pregnant.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Oh, so she couldn't, yeah.
- 32:22Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's when she was pregnant.
- 32:24Speaker 1: And then Jesse gives Jordan a recap of the Taylor fight.
- 32:28Speaker 1: She shows him that Taylor apologized over text, which is
- 32:31Speaker 1: kind of a, I have a lot to say about this.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I'm aware I handled today horribly and I'm sorry to
- 32:37Speaker 1: all three of you. Now, first of all, you get
- 32:39Speaker 1: in a fight on camera like that and then you
- 32:42Speaker 1: go off camera and apologize is a big fat no-no
- 32:45Speaker 1: in housewife world.
- 32:47Speaker 4: You deal with it.
- 32:48Speaker 1: On camera and we'll see like, you know, at the
- 32:50Speaker 1: end of the episode that they try to deal with
- 32:52Speaker 1: it on camera and she fights him about it.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Yeah. And well, also Jesse's like, I'm the only one
- 32:59Speaker 2: going to respond. And then Jordan says, Jesse, I think
- 33:02Speaker 2: you're too forgiving. Yeah. And Jesse explains that they're scared
- 33:05Speaker 2: of Taylor's audience. I can't believe they broke the fourth
- 33:07Speaker 2: wall to this point.
- 33:08Speaker 1: No, it needed to be done because it doesn't make
- 33:10Speaker 1: any sense. If I was acting like Taylor Act on
- 33:13Speaker 1: that show, my cast would fucking hate... Oh, they probably
- 33:18Speaker 1: already do. They would hate me and just go after
- 33:21Speaker 1: me constantly, but they're always coddling her and poor her.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Because also I think they think they need her.
- 33:30Speaker 1: Why?
- 33:31Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 33:32Speaker 3: Because I think... Who have we talked about this entire episode?
- 33:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. But at what point is it like
- 33:42Speaker 1: you cross the line? And when you have cast members
- 33:44Speaker 1: that are quitting the show, good cast members quitting the.
- 33:47Speaker 4: Show, the lines have been crossed.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:51Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that Mikayla is quitting is I
- 33:53Speaker 2: really want justice for Mikayla.
- 33:55Speaker 3: I love her so much. We had her on. She
- 33:58Speaker 3: was so good.
- 33:59Speaker 2: But then did you also see the TikTok that was,
- 34:03Speaker 2: I think, on Whitney's page?
- 34:04Speaker 4: Mikaela, Macy, and Demi.
- 34:07Speaker 3: I'm like, what's Demi doing back here?
- 34:10Speaker 1: We didn't see her at all. Season five, right? Does
- 34:12Speaker 1: she ever come back?
- 34:13Speaker 3: She must, because why else would she be with Whitney doing?
- 34:16Speaker 1: It was outside of Dancing with the Stars, maybe.
- 34:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:20Speaker 2: It was like when they were supporting Conor, which, oh,
- 34:22Speaker 2: my God, Conor went home first.
- 34:24Speaker 3: And think about what a good dancer he is. We
- 34:26Speaker 3: wouldn't make it a second.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Wait, he was a good dancer?
- 34:28Speaker 3: I didn't see.
- 34:29Speaker 1: I didn't watch.
- 34:31Speaker 2: I mean, his performance, I have to say, like, he
- 34:34Speaker 2: wasn't the best of dancers. But he's a good TikTok dancer.
- 34:38Speaker 2: But did you see when Derek Hough got one of
- 34:42Speaker 2: the guys confused?
- 34:43Speaker 1: I just saw some mix-up. But did you also see
- 34:46Speaker 1: the Andy Cohen fallout last night? He gave himself jackal
- 34:49Speaker 1: of the night.
- 34:51Speaker 4: What exactly did he do?
- 34:53Speaker 1: He talked about one of the girls that's on Dancing
- 34:55Speaker 1: with the Stars, like, in the past, saying, like, can
- 34:57Speaker 1: we just agree that she can't dance or she's not
- 35:00Speaker 1: a good dancer? And then it got brought up.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Oh, Julia Stiles.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it got brought up on Dancing with the Stars.
- 35:08Speaker 1: And then the host said, said something like take that
- 35:12Speaker 1: Andy Cohen or I don't know it was Andy but
- 35:15Speaker 1: Andy was a good sport about it and then they
- 35:18Speaker 1: he says like I'm a jackal I should never have
- 35:19Speaker 1: said that I'm sorry especially from me and then they
- 35:22Speaker 1: flash back to him dancing at the Grateful Dead concert
- 35:24Speaker 1: and he's.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Like I can't it's too good.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Brianna visits Jen at her new rental, and Jen shares
- 35:41Speaker 2: her goal of making music about motherhood and plays a
- 35:44Speaker 2: snippet of her song, Pink Back.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Well, allegedly, Jen stole this song from a girl on TikTok.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Really? Yes.
- 35:53Speaker 1: So what do you think? Will this song make Jen
- 35:56Speaker 1: a pop star? Or is it going to put her
- 35:59Speaker 1: in a lawsuit?
- 36:00Speaker 3: It made me want her to give that keyboard right back.
- 36:03Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a Hannah Harper, American Idol winner.
- 36:09Speaker 3: Yeah, that's embarrassing.
- 36:11Speaker 1: How could you not know? Like, you know you ripped
- 36:14Speaker 1: off a song. You're going to put it on national TV,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and you're not going to. Like, what in the hell
- 36:19Speaker 1: is going on?
- 36:20Speaker 2: But also, what does the hell does getting your pink
- 36:22Speaker 2: back even mean? I know she explained it, but I still.
- 36:25Speaker 1: It's about a, what are those pink birds?
- 36:27Speaker 3: What are they called?
- 36:27Speaker 1: I want to say pelican. Flamingos. Flamingo. After they have birth,
- 36:31Speaker 1: they change colors. Then when they get their sparkle back,
- 36:34Speaker 1: they turn pink.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Yeah, but come on.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Then we move on to Jesse and Jordan. They have
- 36:38Speaker 1: a housewarming party. Now, this is a new house. And
- 36:43Speaker 1: they bought the— I don't know why they bought a new house,
- 36:45Speaker 1: did they say? Because I thought— I think.
- 36:46Speaker 3: They wanted to get rid of the bad memories in
- 36:48Speaker 3: the other house.
- 36:49Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. They did say that.
- 36:51Speaker 1: And they put it just in Jesse's name, which leads
- 36:54Speaker 1: me to believe that they knew that they were getting divorced.
- 36:57Speaker 1: And even the conversation in the closet with Jesse and
- 37:01Speaker 1: Michaela and some of the girls— She even said, somebody said, like,
- 37:06Speaker 1: it's going to be your house only one day. Like,
- 37:09Speaker 1: they knew.
- 37:10Speaker 4: She knew she was getting divorced.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 3: She knew she was getting divorced.
- 37:14Speaker 4: That's a hell of a closet.
- 37:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Then Jesse reveals in her confessional that she brought up
- 37:20Speaker 2: divorce that actual morning.
- 37:23Speaker 1: Yeah. And we know that they're not divorced yet, I
- 37:27Speaker 1: wouldn't imagine, but they're definitely filed.
- 37:28Speaker 3: They're definitely separated and done.
- 37:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 37:33Speaker 3: Then, you know, they get at the house.
- 37:35Speaker 4: The housewarming party was awkward.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I just got to say it that way. It was awkward.
- 37:40Speaker 3: The setup was awkward.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Was it like a breakfast? They're eating bacon and orange juice.
- 37:46Speaker 3: I think it was a breakfast.
- 37:49Speaker 1: It's weird in itself.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Which, like, because it's one thing if you have a
- 37:53Speaker 2: boozy brunch, but it's not like they're having a boozy brunch.
- 37:56Speaker 3: So they're just having a breakfast.
- 37:58Speaker 4: Like, you know when.
- 37:59Speaker 2: Your grandparents have all of their grandkids take pictures on
- 38:04Speaker 2: the stairway, like going all the way up? That's where
- 38:07Speaker 2: the scene looked like because they just kept adding more
- 38:10Speaker 2: girls onto.
- 38:10Speaker 3: The stairs to add to the conversation.
- 38:14Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:15Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my God. Like, it just gets higher
- 38:19Speaker 2: and higher and higher. But Macy tries to pull Taylor aside,
- 38:23Speaker 2: but she insists they have a conversation in front of everyone.
- 38:26Speaker 3: What's your thought on that?
- 38:27Speaker 1: Her attitude was so shit.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Yeah. Taylor's. No, no.
- 38:32Speaker 1: We're going to do it here. No. Why?
- 38:33Speaker 3: If you want to do it, we're going to do
- 38:35Speaker 3: it right here.
- 38:35Speaker 1: There's cameras right here. Let's do it on cameras. They
- 38:37Speaker 1: never said they didn't want to do it on camera.
- 38:39Speaker 1: She's like, the cameras are right here. You guys refused
- 38:42Speaker 1: to answer my text messages, but now you want to
- 38:45Speaker 1: do all this in front of camera? Yes.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Yes.
- 38:47Speaker 1: Yes, Taylor, we want to do it on camera. That's
- 38:50Speaker 1: our job. That's what we get paid for. You had
- 38:51Speaker 1: no problem telling us off on camera, so we can
- 38:54Speaker 1: respond to it on camera.
- 38:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like she doesn't want to admit to
- 38:58Speaker 2: her fans or the public that she apologized.
- 39:06Speaker 1: I don't understand her the way she thinks. I swear
- 39:09Speaker 1: I don't think she realizes she's on TV.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Then Macy says to Jesse that, Jesse is nicer to
- 39:16Speaker 2: her face, so Taylor calls Jesse over to confront her
- 39:19Speaker 2: about it.
- 39:19Speaker 1: And then tells her to leave.
- 39:21Speaker 4: But this is the problem.
- 39:23Speaker 3: Why are we letting Taylor control everybody?
- 39:26Speaker 1: Because these girls are afraid of her fans.
- 39:30Speaker 2: I know, but still, she's in control of every argument.
- 39:34Speaker 3: She's in control of where they have conversations. She comes
- 39:38Speaker 3: and goes as she pleases.
- 39:40Speaker 2: Whenever you're on an ensemble cast and one person has
- 39:43Speaker 2: that much power over the rest of the cast, there's.
- 39:46Speaker 3: Going to be problems. Right.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Get rid of her.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Then after arguing back and forth, Taylor tells Michaela she's
- 39:54Speaker 2: miserable and she needs to own being a bitch. And
- 39:59Speaker 2: then Jen gets called into it because she had previously
- 40:01Speaker 2: claimed that Macy and Michaela were the only ones there
- 40:04Speaker 2: for her. Jen says she actually felt the opposite way.
- 40:07Speaker 1: Well, Michaela, like she gets in the mix.
- 40:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:11Speaker 1: But she doesn't, she's not a mean person.
- 40:15Speaker 4: She just stands up for what she believes in.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Right. And this girl's got a lot to deal with.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got a lot to deal with.
- 40:22Speaker 2: And she's just like, I think they're sick of, they're
- 40:27Speaker 2: just beyond sick of the fact that they always can
- 40:31Speaker 2: be considered being in the wrong. And Taylor, who they
- 40:34Speaker 2: know is allegedly has some sort of substance abuse issues,
- 40:38Speaker 2: isn't with their kids, isn't with either of the baby daddies.
- 40:42Speaker 3: They're all in court.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Like, shit's hitting the fan over there for her on
- 40:46Speaker 2: a personal level. Yet she's constantly talking about bringing in
- 40:48Speaker 2: new men. She's still sleeping with Dakota. Dakota's roommate crew
- 40:53Speaker 2: is releasing videos. Like, it is constant.
- 40:56Speaker 1: It's just icky. It's icky. And then she storms out
- 41:00Speaker 1: with the freaking stain on her shirt and tells Dakota
- 41:04Speaker 1: he's not in a place to give advice.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 41:08Speaker 1: Neither are you!
- 41:10Speaker 3: Yeah, please.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Come on. And then as the women start to argue
- 41:13Speaker 2: with Dakota, Taylor returns to the house, and Michaela makes
- 41:16Speaker 2: a comment about Shania, which Pisses Taylor off right again.
- 41:20Speaker 2: She gets all revved up just again about it. But
- 41:23Speaker 2: the comment.
- 41:24Speaker 1: She made was not horrible.
- 41:27Speaker 3: I know.
- 41:27Speaker 1: She asked Taylor, what did Shania do to you?
- 41:33Speaker 4: Shania had sex with Dakota.
- 41:36Speaker 1: So what? They weren't together.
- 41:39Speaker 4: But she still.
- 41:39Speaker 2: Knows what she did to her.
- 41:43Speaker 4: It's the fact that now Shania has done.
- 41:44Speaker 2: This with two of the girls' exes, I think. I
- 41:49Speaker 2: did understand what Shania did. Do I think that Michaela
- 41:52Speaker 2: probably misspoke in some way?
- 41:55Speaker 3: Yes. I didn't think it was bad.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Taylor and Dakota are fucking everybody, so I just don't
- 42:01Speaker 1: find any like, oh, that's an aha moment.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:06Speaker 2: Taylor claims that the girls only cared about Shania once
- 42:09Speaker 2: she did something to Miranda.
- 42:12Speaker 4: Well, because Miranda's like a nice, functioning human being.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Probably the nicest girl on the cast.
- 42:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:19Speaker 2: And then outside, Taylor finally breaks down because she knows
- 42:22Speaker 2: she treats everybody like shit.
- 42:24Speaker 1: See, this is, I have a hard time with this.
- 42:27Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 42:29Speaker 1: I mean, the girls are very nice. They say they're
- 42:32Speaker 1: very godly and Jesus-like and taking her in and holding
- 42:37Speaker 1: her and telling her it's going to be all right.
- 42:42Speaker 1: It's difficult to watch somebody self-destruct and bring things on themselves.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:48Speaker 1: And then break down and say, I treat everybody like shit. Yeah.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Like, I just can't help it. It's just I treat
- 42:53Speaker 2: everyone like shit. Everyone in my life, I just want
- 42:55Speaker 2: to self-sabotage.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you know that, then go get help.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Yeah. But she has gone and gotten help a couple
- 43:03Speaker 2: of times, and it's not working.
- 43:05Speaker 4: Then get off TV.
- 43:09Speaker 1: TV's not going to help you. It's going to make
- 43:11Speaker 1: things worse.
- 43:12Speaker 4: But then Michaela's giving one of those hugs. It was
- 43:16Speaker 4: like one of those.
- 43:17Speaker 3: Side hugs? No, it was like one of those long hugs.
- 43:21Speaker 1: Oh.
- 43:21Speaker 3: Like where you want to take a shower afterwards. Like
- 43:23Speaker 3: you're like, whoa.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 43:26Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those hugs. And I was
- 43:29Speaker 3: just like, oh my, this whole entire scene of fighting
- 43:33Speaker 3: and friending and, Who's there for each other? I'm like,
- 43:36Speaker 3: this is just so ridiculous.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Not any more ridiculous than Jen getting emotional about losing
- 43:43Speaker 1: an acting role over her soda and pretzels. I'm like, girl,
- 43:47Speaker 1: you've never been an actress, right? And you did one
- 43:50Speaker 1: audition and you're devastated. Actresses do hundreds of auditions.
- 43:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:56Speaker 1: She just thought like it was just going to come
- 43:58Speaker 1: to her like that?
- 43:59Speaker 2: Well, because I think she's in her own little competition
- 44:02Speaker 2: with Whitney.
- 44:05Speaker 1: Well, Whitney is extremely talented. I'm not saying that Jen
- 44:09Speaker 1: is not talented, but Whitney is too good for this show.
- 44:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:16Speaker 4: But also, like, he's like, Jen, you need to eat.
- 44:21Speaker 3: You haven't been eating. Like, at least have this pretzel.
- 44:24Speaker 4: Bite right here.
- 44:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 44:27Speaker 2: But Jen just also seems like she's actively trying to
- 44:31Speaker 2: destroy her marriage.
- 44:33Speaker 3: On purpose, on television.
- 44:34Speaker 1: Well, Zach told her that he would consider divorce if
- 44:37Speaker 1: there was an on-screen relationship, which I just don't think
- 44:43Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Sorry.
- 44:45Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think she's going to have a
- 44:46Speaker 2: sex scene with anyone anytime soon. Like, I don't think
- 44:49Speaker 2: she's about to be on Basic Instinct 2.
- 44:51Speaker 1: No, no.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Then Jen calls the girls over.
- 44:57Speaker 2: At the house, and the latest news is that Taylor
- 44:59Speaker 2: finally called it quits with Dakota. What?
- 45:02Speaker 4: Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Hasn't this happened 1,000 times? Then Taylor calls Macy to
- 45:11Speaker 2: say she's not filming because she's dealing with a fucking
- 45:13Speaker 2: mess with Dakota.
- 45:14Speaker 1: And she knows what that fucking mess is, but she's
- 45:18Speaker 1: not saying anything. And.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Well, she says that he made false allegations to the
- 45:25Speaker 1: CPS accusing her of abusing their son.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Yeah, like allegedly he had his friend make a false
- 45:32Speaker 2: CPS report accusing her of abusing her son. But at
- 45:36Speaker 2: this point, this is why I'm like, this is why
- 45:38Speaker 2: Michaela is like, I'm done with this.
- 45:40Speaker 3: I'm done filming.
- 45:41Speaker 1: Done.
- 45:41Speaker 2: Done.
- 45:42Speaker 1: I'm done. This is like embarrassing at this point to
- 45:44Speaker 1: be part of this cast.
- 45:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 45:47Speaker 3: Then production pauses after this call.
- 45:50Speaker 2: And then three months later, news broke about her Bachelorette
- 45:54Speaker 2: season being pulled after the video of her throwing a
- 45:57Speaker 2: chair leak to TMZ.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and they show them literally pulling the billboard signs down. Like,
- 46:03Speaker 1: it ain't going to happen.
- 46:04Speaker 3: It ain't going to happen.
- 46:06Speaker 2: I mean, I think clearly we need to catch up.
- 46:10Speaker 2: We're too far behind.
- 46:12Speaker 1: I think they should have scrapped this whole season five,
- 46:15Speaker 1: the whole five episodes.
- 46:16Speaker 3: See, I enjoyed watching it.
- 46:18Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was a shit show, but
- 46:20Speaker 2: I also enjoyed watching it. But I do think, yeah,
- 46:23Speaker 2: I mean, we just need to get to six. What
- 46:24Speaker 2: was the point? What do you want.
- 46:26Speaker 1: To see in six that would make sense and be
- 46:31Speaker 1: better to watch?
- 46:32Speaker 3: I mean, what do we want to see in any
- 46:34Speaker 3: of these shows?
- 46:37Speaker 1: I can't stand seeing the same shit happen Season after
- 46:42Speaker 1: season after season. If you don't have growth and you're
- 46:45Speaker 1: on one of these shows, then you need to go.
- 46:48Speaker 1: If you're still bitching about things and still doing things
- 46:51Speaker 1: from 10 years ago, five years ago, three years ago,
- 46:54Speaker 1: and you can't move on, you can't. You need to go.
- 46:56Speaker 2: Like if I hear Taylor say, did you fuck her
- 46:58Speaker 2: one more time?
- 46:59Speaker 3: I know. I may lose it.
- 47:01Speaker 1: Every year.
- 47:03Speaker 3: Every year.
- 47:04Speaker 4: By the way, Taylor, the answer is yes.
- 47:06Speaker 2: Yeah. Keep off her.
- 47:07Speaker 1: I could.
- 47:08Speaker 4: Just giving you a.
- 47:09Speaker 1: He's like, you're a fuck my mom. And he's probably, probably. Yeah.
- 47:13Speaker 3: You know what?
- 47:14Speaker 2: She'd probably want to if she thought she could be
- 47:16Speaker 2: on screen a little more.
- 47:22Speaker 3: But I don't know. I mean, that's the end of it.
- 47:24Speaker 3: When does it say that season six is airing? Don't know.
- 47:29Speaker 1: I just hope it's better. I'm so frustrated with this season.
- 47:33Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are. I'm seeing a
- 47:35Speaker 1: lot of things like people are saying just... shut this
- 47:38Speaker 1: show down.
- 47:38Speaker 2: Well, I think it's, this show is only one that
- 47:42Speaker 2: you can binge. You have to watch it like in
- 47:45Speaker 2: one seating and like, just go for it. It's impossible
- 47:48Speaker 2: to break it down because.
- 47:49Speaker 3: It's just, I don't know.
- 47:54Speaker 2: I guess they're still filming apparently.
- 47:56Speaker 3: And they had just got back from Italy. Right before
- 48:01Speaker 3: Michaela quit.
- 48:03Speaker 1: Oh really?
- 48:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:05Speaker 3: So, I mean, we'll see. Who knows? I mean, who
- 48:08Speaker 3: even knows? And then, like, is Michaela going to be replaced?
- 48:12Speaker 3: Is this the end of season seven or is this
- 48:14Speaker 3: the end of season six? Like, I don't know. I'm lost.
- 48:19Speaker 1: So she quit for season seven?
- 48:21Speaker 3: I think she quit for season seven.
- 48:24Speaker 1: So was she filming season six and quit midway through?
- 48:28Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they filmed. she quit filming
- 48:31Speaker 2: season six. Like, I don't know if they were still
- 48:33Speaker 2: filming that and she quit that or they'd already been
- 48:36Speaker 2: on to seven. Like, that's how many seasons there is.
- 48:39Speaker 2: That's how much money they're making. That's why they're all
- 48:41Speaker 2: EPs on this damn thing. And then is Demi going
- 48:45Speaker 2: to be back?
- 48:47Speaker 1: At this point, yes. Please bring her back.
- 48:50Speaker 3: You want more Fruity Pebbles?
- 48:52Speaker 1: Yes.
- 48:52Speaker 3: Or Fruit Loops or whatever it was. Oh my gosh. Well,
- 48:57Speaker 3: we made it through.
- 48:58Speaker 2: So the story goes that The girls go to Italy
- 49:02Speaker 2: for a trip on season six, and they're led under
- 49:06Speaker 2: the assumption that Taylor's not coming back. And then they
- 49:10Speaker 2: come back from the trip, and she finds out from
- 49:12Speaker 2: production that Taylor has, in fact, been filming and is
- 49:17Speaker 2: going to be on this season of the show, and
- 49:19Speaker 2: that's when Michaela's like, like I've had enough I'm out.
- 49:21Speaker 1: Yeah well you can only imagine what she did that
- 49:24Speaker 1: season yeah that she's like I can't do this anymore
- 49:27Speaker 1: so which only means to me is that it got worse.
- 49:30Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I think Taylor Taylor yeah gosh well
- 49:36Speaker 2: we did it we made it to another episode of
- 49:38Speaker 2: Two Teas in a Pod and Thanks, guys, for tuning in,
- 49:40Speaker 2: and we will be back tomorrow.
- 49:42Speaker 3: For more pods.
- 49:46Speaker 2: I love our Craig Conover thing, how many people were
- 49:48Speaker 2: laughing about, sit down before you tell us a story,
- 49:53Speaker 2: and we quickly pop the squat.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Make sure you tune into that interview. It's great.
- 49:59Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good interview, so make sure you guys
- 50:01Speaker 3: tune in. All right, love you guys. Bye.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Bye.