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THE GHOSTS OF SERIAL KILLERS · CelinaSpookyBoo

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Boo Crew, it's time to talk serial killers. So
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  Speaker 1: you cute, twisted little weirdo. My name is Selina Myers,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to the Haunted Estate. Serial killer culture has
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  Speaker 1: us in a chokehold, and no matter what the crimes,
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  Speaker 1: how horrific, we listen with open hearts and eyes wide open.
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  Speaker 1: But not like open like dead, not like, like with anticipation.
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  Speaker 1: Not only were these people terrible, not all of them
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  Speaker 1: disappeared after their hearts stopped beating. Some serial killers and
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  Speaker 1: their victims are still restless to this day, and maybe forever.
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  Speaker 2: Forever ever?
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  Speaker 1: Forever ever.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, I'm Adam.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it. In the surreal 1970s lived a
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  Speaker 1: man by the name of John Wayne Gacy. But this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just your ordinary man. He was a killer. A
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  Speaker 1: monster who prowled the streets and kept his gruesome secrets
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  Speaker 1: hidden in the walls and beneath the floorboards of his
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  Speaker 1: home on Somerdale Avenue. There, he buried at least 29
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  Speaker 1: souls whose cries fell silent, but did not go unheard.
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  Speaker 1: The house came down in 1979 in a frantic effort
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  Speaker 1: to bury the atrocities that happened within its walls. But
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  Speaker 1: the vacant land, most peculiar, never healed.
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  Speaker 2: I bet it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Hollow ground. Can you imagine? If evil's there, how's anything
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  Speaker 1: gonna grow? There was a dog that lived behind my
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  Speaker 1: parents' house, and it was this giant Rottweiler. And I
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  Speaker 1: am not, like, a breed-specific, like, person. But I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to tell you right now, when it came to this Rottweiler,
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  Speaker 1: it died after attacking somebody. They buried it under a tree,
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  Speaker 1: and then the tree died. For a long period, the
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  Speaker 1: earth was barren, and not a blade of grass grew.
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  Speaker 1: It was as if the very ground itself was cursed,
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  Speaker 1: poisoned with the acts committed there. Unspeakable. In time, whispers spread. Now,
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  Speaker 1: restless spirits. Vengeful victims of Gacy's cruelty. They still roamed
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  Speaker 1: the place where their lives were snuffed out. Hey Adam,
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  Speaker 1: did we almost buy a painting by John Wayne Gacy?
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  Speaker 2: We almost did, but it was pretty scammy.
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  Speaker 1: We were going to do it for a YouTube video,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't have any authentication. The guy who lived
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  Speaker 1: there and ran the place?
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  Speaker 2: Sketchy. Closed now. He's getting... It's not closed! Things going on.
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  Speaker 1: Not closed!
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  Speaker 2: Stuff's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Still open.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, you see, haunted places have a way of holding
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  Speaker 1: onto the past. The spirits that linger are often tied
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  Speaker 1: to some deep, tragic moment. It might be their home,
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  Speaker 1: or worse, the place where they met their untimely death.
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  Speaker 1: In these haunted spaces, you don't just see ghosts. You
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  Speaker 1: feel them.
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  Speaker 3: Strange noises echo in the night. Lights flicker for no reason,
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes an eerie scent fills the air.
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  Speaker 1: As if death itself has left its mark. Objects move
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  Speaker 1: on their own, bells ring when no one is there
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  Speaker 1: to ring them, and if you're really unlucky, you might
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  Speaker 1: hear music playing in the dead of night. Certain places,
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  Speaker 1: it seems, are destined to be haunted, as if the
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  Speaker 1: tragedies that unfolded there soaked into the soil, leaving a
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  Speaker 1: scar that even time can't heal. From battlefields soaked in
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  Speaker 1: blood and murder scenes stained with terror, these locations attract
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  Speaker 1: the supernatural. Over the centuries, entire armies have been spotted
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  Speaker 1: marching the fields where they fell, their restless souls forever
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  Speaker 1: bound to the violence that claimed them. But murder sites,
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  Speaker 1: they're something else entirely. And John Wayne Gacy's house, that
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  Speaker 1: To most people who knew him, Johnway Gacy was a
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  Speaker 1: warm-hearted man who liked entertaining small kids. Why is it
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  Speaker 1: always like that? For parties he threw for the whole neighborhood,
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  Speaker 1: he would dress up as his alter ego, a character
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  Speaker 1: called Pogo the Clown. By 1978, however, the public's perception
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  Speaker 1: of Gacy would never again be an image of him
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  Speaker 1: and would be referred to by its nicknames, which sent
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  Speaker 1: chills down people's spines, like the Killer Clown. John Wayne
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  Speaker 1: Gacy was born on March 17, 1942, into a Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: Illinois household. His father, who served in World War I...
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  Speaker 1: had a tendency to drink excessively. This was usually vented
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  Speaker 1: onto Gacy. His mother was a homemaker who made sure
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  Speaker 1: she kept the peace within the house whenever her husband
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  Speaker 1: acted up. Gacy was a middle child and had two
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  Speaker 1: other siblings. He was born with a heart condition that
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  Speaker 1: kept him from playing sports, so he struggled with his
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  Speaker 1: weight when he was younger. Okay, we're getting a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a nice little spell bottle put together here, don't we, Adam?
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  Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 1: We got mean dad who drinks fat kid I'm a
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  Speaker 1: fat kid. I'm not a murderer. But, like, I can
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  Speaker 1: see where it could come from. And a heart condition.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't play.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing will induce a good serial killer story like childhood trauma.
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  Speaker 1: Childhood trauma. It's like, you know how, like, you have
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  Speaker 1: the base, like, flour is the base of the cookie.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have a cookie. Childhood trauma.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough to have any of this stuff without
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  Speaker 3: some real nasty childhood trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Childhood trauma. Bad stuff. Bad stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Stop the cycle. If you were traumatized, get help. There's
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  Speaker 3: people out there to talk to. Try not to move
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  Speaker 3: that on. Do not make it generational.
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  Speaker 1: Break the generational curses. The relationship with his father was harsh.
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  Speaker 1: His dad often hit him with a razor strap and
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  Speaker 1: also continuously belittled him with such names as dumb and stupid. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: here we go. Whatever Gacy did, he felt that he
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  Speaker 1: could not please his father. Oh, my God. I have
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  Speaker 1: this in common.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, is this hitting the heartstrings? Stop!
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to feel sympathetic for a serial killer.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: His mother, knowing her son had some heart problems, did
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  Speaker 1: everything she could to protect him. But this only aggravated
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  Speaker 1: the situation. His father began calling him mama's boy and sissy.
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  Speaker 2: Ugh!
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  Speaker 1: From age 14 to 18, Gacy was in and out
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  Speaker 1: of the hospital due to some sort of unexplained seizures
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  Speaker 1: with sudden attacks. as well as appendicitis rupture. Ooh, that's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: You can go septic and die from that.
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  Speaker 2: Gross. And back then, too, I mean, the hospitals weren't
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  Speaker 2: as great with that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They'd just cut you open and dry you out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: His father did not restrain his cruelty, even when Gacy
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  Speaker 1: was bedridden in the hospital and ill. Then, Gacy would
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  Speaker 1: recall his father accusing him of faking his illness and
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  Speaker 1: adding insult to injury.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: You go to the hospital, your appendix is blown, you're
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  Speaker 3: cut open, but you're faking it.
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  Speaker 1: And your dad's like, get up.
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  Speaker 2: No one can help this alcoholic man.
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  Speaker 1: It's baseball practice time!
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  Speaker 3: He is an enemy to himself, society, and anybody around him.
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  Speaker 1: Even early signs showed that Gacy was troubled. He once
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  Speaker 1: stole a toy truck from a store when he was six.
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  Speaker 1: His mother made him return and apologize. But his father
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  Speaker 1: beat him up for it upon returning home over the incident.
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  Speaker 1: When John Wayne Gacy was just seven years old, he
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  Speaker 1: and another boy were accused of molesting a young girl,
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  Speaker 1: which earned him yet another beating from his father with
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  Speaker 1: the razor strap. That same year, Gacy experienced a different
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  Speaker 1: kind of trauma when a family friend took advantage of him. So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting it all here. We're getting abused. We're getting
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  Speaker 1: yelled at. We're getting assaulted. Afraid his father would blame him,
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  Speaker 1: Gacy kept this painful secret to himself. Fast forward to 1967,
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  Speaker 1: Gacy was living in what seemed like a regular successful
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  Speaker 1: life in Waterloo, Iowa. He managed the KFC restaurants, he
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  Speaker 1: was vice president of the local Jaycees, and had a
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  Speaker 1: wife and two children. Even his strict father had started
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  Speaker 1: to show him some respect. But beneath the surface, Gacy's
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  Speaker 1: darker impulses continued to simmer. One of his victims was
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  Speaker 1: a 15-year-old boy named Daniel Voorhees, the son of a
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  Speaker 1: fellow Jaycee member. Jaycee gave him alcohol and assaulted him.
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  Speaker 1: Around the same time, he also targeted several other boys,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes pretending the encounters were part of a science experiment.
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  Speaker 3: Ew. Gross.
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  Speaker 1: Even paying them money for their participation. Eventually, Voorhees told
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  Speaker 1: his father about the assault, leading to Jaycee's arrest. Though
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  Speaker 1: Gacy denied the charges, and even going as far as
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  Speaker 1: taking a polygraph test that revealed his anxiety, the truth
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  Speaker 1: started to catch up with him. In 1968, Gacy was indicted,
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  Speaker 1: and in a desperate attempt to avoid conviction, he hired
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  Speaker 1: someone to attack Voorhees and scare him out of testifying.
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  Speaker 1: The plan failed, and Gacy was convicted and sentenced to
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  Speaker 1: 10 years in prison. His wife promptly divorced him.
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  Speaker 2: You go, girl.
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  Speaker 1: She took their children, and Gacy never saw them again.
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  Speaker 1: In prison, Gacy adapted quickly. He turned himself into a
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  Speaker 1: model inmate. He headed up the prison's J.C. 's chapter,
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  Speaker 1: putting together a series of projects aimed to help other
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  Speaker 1: inmates make it through the system, and he became the
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  Speaker 1: head cook. Eighteen months later, he was paroled. Following his release,
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  Speaker 1: Gacy purchased a home on Somerdale Avenue in Cook County, Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: This would be the same home where he would commit
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  Speaker 1: most of his future crimes. He looked up his old
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  Speaker 1: high school girlfriend, Carol Hoff, and eventually married her. Hoff,
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  Speaker 1: along with her two daughters, moved into the Somerdale house
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  Speaker 1: as Gacy attempted to live an average life. Did he try?
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  Speaker 1: Did he win? No, he failed. We're going to get
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 1: He must be a master manipulator to convince this woman
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't do that. Because no woman in her
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  Speaker 1: right mind, especially with daughters, would date a man who
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  Speaker 1: touched kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be worse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'd probably rather marry someone that murdered than touch kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Gacy also started a construction company called PDM and
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  Speaker 1: was quite successful. However, while things looked good from the outside,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't contain his dark self. During one 1973 business trip,
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  Speaker 1: he attacked a young employee while being a guest at
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  Speaker 1: a hotel. The young man avoided Gacy afterwards and even
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  Speaker 1: fought him when they returned home. Gacy brushed it off,
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  Speaker 1: telling his wife that the boy was upset because he
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  Speaker 1: refused to pay him for poor work. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: Gacy remained active in his community. He worked for the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party and and even led the Polish Constitution Day
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  Speaker 1: Parade in Chicago for the next three years, during which
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  Speaker 1: he had his photo taken with the First Lady, Rosalind Carter.
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  Speaker 1: He joined the Moose Club and later became part of
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  Speaker 1: the local downtown club, where he created an infamous clown persona, Pogo,
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  Speaker 1: and Patches. These personas became the central to the mask
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  Speaker 1: that he wore in public, while the darkness within him
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  Speaker 1: continued to bubble. In 1972, John Wayne Gacy's first murder
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  Speaker 1: might have started with a misunderstanding. He picked up 16-year-old
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  Speaker 1: Timothy Jack McCoy from a Greyhound bus terminal, took him
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  Speaker 1: sightseeing around Chicago, and offered to let him stay the night.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, Gacy awoke to find McCoy standing in
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  Speaker 1: his bedroom holding a knife. Panicking, Gacy tackled the boy
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  Speaker 1: and killed him. Afterward, he walked into the kitchen and
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  Speaker 1: saw that McCoy had been prepping breakfast. with an uncut
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  Speaker 1: slab of bacon on the counter. It is possible that
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  Speaker 1: the boy was simply waking Gacy up for breakfast, holding
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  Speaker 1: the knife in a way that made Gacy feel threatened. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: picture it. You're cooking breakfast, you walk in to wake
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  Speaker 1: someone up, and they murder you.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, if they're bringing me bacon and eggs first.
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  Speaker 2: But he.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't even get a chance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Gacy buried McCoy in his home's crawlspace.
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  Speaker 2: Weird.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna smell weird. Sealing the boy under concrete. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get what he's doing there. According to Gacy, the act
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  Speaker 1: brought him an intense feeling. One that led him down
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  Speaker 1: a darker path. From that point on, he began seeking
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  Speaker 1: the same thrill again and again. As Gacy worked long
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  Speaker 1: hours to grow his construction company, he also spent his
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  Speaker 1: free time cruising. A term he used for driving around
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  Speaker 1: and picking up young boys. In 1975, he had developed
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  Speaker 1: a certain trick to subdue his victims. One was called
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  Speaker 1: the handcuff trick, where he would convince boys to put
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  Speaker 1: handcuffs on themselves, often after plying them with drugs or alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: Then came the rope trick, where Gacy would use a
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  Speaker 1: rope as a tourniquet to strangle them. Meanwhile, Gacy's marriage
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  Speaker 1: was falling apart. His wife, Carol, grew tired of his
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  Speaker 1: frequent absences and strange behavior. And in 1976, the couple divorced. Officially,
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  Speaker 1: the reason was Gacy's infidelities with other women. But then, Gacy,
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  Speaker 1: who had already been committing his crimes for so many
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  Speaker 1: years in the house that he had shared with the
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  Speaker 1: two daughters, with Carol gone, Gacy was left to his
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  Speaker 1: own devices. And neighbors started noticing odd things, like Gacy
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  Speaker 1: leaving the house at all hours of the night. Lights flickering,
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  Speaker 1: strange noises. One neighbor even reported hearing screams. Between 1976
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  Speaker 1: and 1978, Gacy claimed to have murdered 23 teenage boys,
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  Speaker 1: burying them in his crawlspace. He even had workers from
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  Speaker 1: his construction company dig the trenches beneath his house, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: stacking bodies three deep. When the space became too full,
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  Speaker 1: he began disposing of the bodies into Plains River. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the smell. How did no one get the smell? Because
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  Speaker 1: even if you encase something in concrete, that is a
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  Speaker 1: porous material. You're going to smell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Ew.
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  Speaker 2: Insane.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to get into the downfall. In
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  Speaker 1: December 1978, when he lured 15-year-old Robert Peist with a
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  Speaker 1: job offer, after Peist didn't return home, his mother reported
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  Speaker 1: him missing. Gacy denied knowing him, but witnesses saw him
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  Speaker 1: with Peist at the pharmacy where the boy worked. The
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  Speaker 1: investigation led police to put Gacy under surveillance, and Gacy
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  Speaker 1: was oddly comfortable with the attention. Even joke with detectives,
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  Speaker 1: once telling them, you know... Clowns can get away with murder. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's getting cocky. He's getting demonic. He's getting weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little much.
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  Speaker 1: The constant surveillance started to wear on Gacy. He finally
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  Speaker 1: broke down and confessed to detectives, informing them of his
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  Speaker 1: activities of picking up young boys, bringing them home, and
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  Speaker 1: torturing them. He confessed to the burial of the bodies
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  Speaker 1: in his crawlspace and even provided a hand-drawn map of
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  Speaker 1: where each victim was buried. The police returned to Gacy's
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  Speaker 1: house for further investigation and found the crawlspace flooded. After
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  Speaker 1: pumping out the water in the area, they found the
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  Speaker 1: bodies Gacy described, the ones that were still buried beneath
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  Speaker 1: the house. The trial of John Wayne Gacy started on
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  Speaker 1: February 6, 1980, when he was accused of the murders
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  Speaker 1: of 33 young men. As generally expected, the defense entered
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  Speaker 1: a plea of not guilty by reason of insanity. Um, yeah, no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're insane, but you're also guilty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He spent hours under psychiatric evaluations as psychiatrists worked
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  Speaker 1: on determining his mental state. Mental state!
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Failed.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Psychiatrists for the defense diagnosed paranoid schizophrenia in Gacy, while
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the prosecution's contention was that the crimes of such a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: well-planned nature revealed the defendant who knew full well what
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: he was doing. Both sides argue points. On March 12, 1980,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: after just two hours of deliberation, the jury found Gacy
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  Speaker 1: guilty of 33 murders, sexual assault, and indecent liberties with
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a child. Eww-ah! Then, on May 10, 1994, the notorious
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Gacy was was executed by lethal injection, consequently putting an
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: end to one of America's longest criminal cases ever in history.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But Gacy's story actually has a lot more to it
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: than just the murders. Even in death, his hands left
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: bloody prints on the lives of others. Back in 1983,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: while locked up on death row at the Menard Correctional Center,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: infamous for his horrific crimes, found himself in a surreal situation.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: He was stabbed by another notorious killer, Kelly Brisbane. also
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: known as the High 57 Killer.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is not funny, but that... It's funny. That's funny.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: He does start upset. Brisbane was no stranger to violence.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: In one of his particularly vile acts in 1973, he
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: forced a woman to walk naked through a barbed wire
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  Speaker 1: fence before shooting her. It was a bizarre twist of fate,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: where Gacy, someone who was capable of unimaginable evil, was
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: suddenly at the mercy of someone just as sinister as him. Then,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: just before Christmas in 1978... Gacy attended a party where
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: people were getting their fortunes read by Florin Benson, a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: well-known psychic in the area. Gacy was always one to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: join in on the fun. He sat down to have
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: his palm read, but something about him deeply unsettled Branson.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: She felt so sickened by his aura that she almost
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: had to stop. Years later, when the news of Gacy's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: notorious crimes came to light, she wasn't the least bit shocked.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: This is where it comes into being a psychic is
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: weird because you get feelings. Adam and I had this
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: conversation because there is this woman who went missing years ago.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And as soon as she went missing, I had a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: gut feeling on where I think she is and what
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: happened to her. And so many things have happened over
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the years. And I want to reach out and tell
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  Speaker 1: the police. But at the same time, I feel like
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I've made it all up in my head. But I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: haven't made it up in my head because how many
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: cases have I said things about? And I was completely right.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's been a few for sure.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: But still, but what if that's not it at all?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And then I wasted their time.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: And you seem crazy.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Crazy.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Been called that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: You went out.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace. While the police were interrogating Gacy, they
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: sent a neighbor over to check his house. The neighbor,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: with a key in hand, went to unlock the back door,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: but froze when he heard something odd. Voices. Not just one,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: but many. All moaning from inside the house. He couldn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: pinpoint where the sound came from. Not the basement door.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not upstairs, just everywhere. Like the house itself was moaning. Wow.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: That's like really cool.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Spooky.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Like it's all the people under the house probably.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I wonder if the house or whatever's built there, if
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: anything now has any issues. I, We should look it up.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: We should check it out. At the time, he brushed
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: it off, thinking his mind was playing tricks on him.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But later, he couldn't shake the feeling that the house
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: was holding onto some dark, unsettling energy. Obviously, that many lives.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how long that went on for. Then Gacy's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: house at 8213 West Summerdale Avenue... became a macabre tourist attraction,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: with people flocking to the site for a grim thrill.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: After the police had completed their search, the house was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: torn down in 1979, leaving only rubble. Yet the visitors
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: kept coming. Oddly enough, nothing seemed to grow on that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: cursed land. Some skeptics claimed it was the lime Gacy
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: used to cover his victims that made the soil barren,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but that theory didn't quite add up. Every inch of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the earth had been dug up and replaced during the investigation.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: All the land was almost new, yet nothing grew.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be one.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Well, think of how quickly things take over, right? Yeah. Eventually,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the property was sold, and a new house was built
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: on the site. The address was changed, and slowly, life returned.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Vegetation sprouted once again, as if the land was finally
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: shaking off its sinister past. But over at the Cook
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: County Courthouse, where Gacy was tried... deputies believe that the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: trial left behind some strange echoes. They say they can
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: still hear the sounds of children laughing and playing in
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the courtroom, as if it was in defiance of Gacy's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: monstrous acts. A joyful innocence now haunts the place. Now,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of these hauntings can be explained as residual hauntings.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Residual hauntings are one of the most common paranormal phenomenons,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and they can be explained by the echoes of the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: past stuck on replay. Unlike other hauntings where the spirits
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: seem to interact with the living, These are more like
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a recording of a traumatic or emotionally charged event that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: just keeps playing over and over, completely unaware if anyone
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: is watching. More often than not, a violent murder or
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: some other intense event leaves some sort of energy imprint
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on the place where it happened. This energy doesn't fade away,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: but instead replace the event, kind of like a movie
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: on loop. So when people experience these hauntings, they're not
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: actually seeing ghosts that know they're there. They're just witnessing
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: past moments stuck in time. What's wild is that these
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: imprints can stick around even after the place has been
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: remodeled or torn down. For example, someone might see a
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: ghost walking through a wall, but in reality there might
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: have been a door or a staircase there centuries ago.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: The energy is just playing back an old layout of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the building. There are some famous examples of residual hauntings,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like Anne Bolin's ghost in the Tower of London. Anne
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was executed there in 1536. and many people still report
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: seeing her ghost walking around, accompanied by knights and ladies.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Her spirit has even been spotted at other places connected
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to her life, as if she's still moving between the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: places that were important to her. Another classic example is
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in York, England, where people have seen Roman soldiers marching
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: through the basement of the treasurer's house. What's weird is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that these soldiers seem to walk with their knees higher
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: than the floor. as if they're walking on something long buried.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Among other places across the country, residual hauntings have also
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: been reported to happen in Pennsylvania's Gettysburg Battlefield. Considered to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: be one of the most gruesome battles of the Civil War,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this battlefield is said to have ghostly soldiers marching and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: fighting on it, with the sounds of gunfire and cannons
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: still echoing across the fields. In each of these instances,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the past has been impressed upon the present, and an
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: undeniable mark of these intense emotions or violent death leaves
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: an imprint of energy on that space. And that keeps
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: replaying over and over for anyone who may be there
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to register the incident. But why does this happen? Is
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: there any scientific explanation or theory for this? Well, yes,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: actually there is. One of the most interesting proposals is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that of the stone tape theory, where materials, including stone
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: or wood, have absorbed the emotional energies or traumatic or
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: extreme events that later play back and cause a haunting.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: This idea is often used in explanations of residual hauntings,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Think of it like an invisible tape recorder where the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: walls or objects in a place have captured and replayed
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: memories from traumatic events. The proponents of this theory state
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that when the conditions are right, like those seen during
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a lightning storm. or within an extreme amount of electromagnetic
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: energy is released, recordings can be triggered, manifesting ghostly activity.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Perhaps it is that which gives rise to the claim
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that paranormal events increase during storms. It's just like when
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you get a bunch of people together and they want
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: something spooky to happen and something spooky happens. It's manifesting,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's summoning, it's energy. Shortly after World War II, Winston
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Churchill had a rather spooky experience while visiting the White House.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Having enjoyed a long bath and having his usual scotch
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and cigar, he strolled into his bedroom. to come face
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to face with the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. Ever the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: cool character, Churchill, standing completely naked, reported greeting the spirit with,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Good evening, Mr. President. You seem to have found me
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at a disadvantage. Lincoln's ghost supposedly smiled and then disappeared.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: He's like, your wiener's out, I'm gone. Churchill's encounter with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the unknown makes him a part of a rather curious group.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Arthur Conan Doyle, of Sherlock Holmes fame, used mediums to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: talk to ghosts. Alan Turing believed in telepathy. Telepathy. Believed
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in telepathy. Sharp minds, all of them. Yet it was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the paranormal that drew them in. And they're not alone.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Recent surveys show at least three quarters of Americans believe
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: in some form of paranormal. with nearly one in five
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: claiming they've actually seen a ghost. That's a high number.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Curious about why so many people hold on to these beliefs,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: psychologists have begun studying the reasons behind our fascination with
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: the paranormal. Their research suggests that believing in things like
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: ghosts and spirits might have some surprising benefits, or at
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: least it could make you reflect on other beliefs that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you hold about the world. Some paranormal experiences are actually
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: pretty easy to explain. For example, reports of poltergeists. Those
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: invisible forces seem to move objects. It could be due
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to the damage in certain parts of the brain that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: affect visual processing. Certain types of epilepsy could also create
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the feeling that someone or something is lurking nearby, possibly
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: explaining tales of shadow people seen out there in the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: corner of their eye. See, this is something that I've
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: spoken to Adam about before. When I get in periods
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: of my life where I am extremely stressed and I'm
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: going through a lot, which is also a time in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: my life when my spiritual, like, walls are down because
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: i'm just trying to survive i feel like i do
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: see little whispers of people other sides of my eyes
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: yeah and i thought i was like schizophrenic but i
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: found out that's common and i did not know that
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was common when.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Your brain gets vibrating at a weird frequency you're more
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: open and susceptible to that other.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Side brain chemistry is it demons we'll never know you
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: never know you never know yep could be both out
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of body experiences now those are considered normal neurological events
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: did you know that adam but yeah yeah right Even
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: certain visual illusions can trick a healthy brain into seeing
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: things that aren't there. One Italian psychologist shared a strange
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: experience where he saw an old man staring back at
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: him in the mirror one morning. Turns out it's pretty
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: common to see distorted faces when looking in a dim light.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I actually went through this the other day.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I turned my car around because I saw a kitten
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: on the side of the road. It wasn't a kitten.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It was a can. But I saw it. I saw
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the face. I knew the colors. But nope.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. Crushed can.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently your brain just struggles to piece together the reflection,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it fills the gaps with skulls, hags, or animals. Animals!
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So it's possible that Churchill's ghostly encounter was a mix
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: of exhaustion, alcohol, and maybe a trick of the light.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: But what about people like Conan Doyle, who seemed to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: experience the paranormal on a regular basis? Psychologists have a theory.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: They suggest that belief in the paranormal might act like
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a protective shield against the harsh realities of life, which
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Like you lose someone, then
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you see them, you know what I mean? When something
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: unexpected or tragic happens, like the death or losing a job,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the brain scrambles for answers, trying to find meaning in
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the chaos. Jennifer Whiteson, a researcher at the University of Texas,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: says that when we can't make sense of things objectively,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: our mind creates structure, even if it's an illusion. This
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: could explain why people start seeing connections between random events
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: or believes knocking on wood might somehow improve their luck. But, like,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: if you believe it, I feel like that changes the vibe,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and it could actually be. Yeah. Okay, guys, so I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: want to know who your favorite serial killers are. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: want to do some research and find out some ghost
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: stories about them. I know today we talked about John
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy, and we went kind of deep into different directions,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but that just happens sometimes. Halloween's coming up, and I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: have so much fun content, and I thought this was
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a great way to ease us into Halloween. So until
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: next time, Boo Crew, stay spooky, and don't murder anyone, okay?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Because that'd be weird.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Please don't.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Please don't.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like we need a power blow.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: You have four boyfriends.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: That wasn't bad, though. Rip. Thanks for watching, guys. And
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  Speaker 1: don't forget to check out Senford at Senford.com.