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Broncos vs Chiefs - MNF Showdown Shippers | NFL Week 1 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamburlin here, a.k.a. Toe Tagging Tambo,
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  Speaker 3: back for another edition of Showdown Shippers here on the
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  Speaker 3: Shipping Nation YouTube station. We've got a Monday night football
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  Speaker 3: game to talk about. We've got Denver at the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: We got hoop. We got title. Still got time in
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  Speaker 3: week one. If you didn't win money yet and you
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  Speaker 3: didn't get your bonus money from FanDuel yet, if that debacle,
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  Speaker 3: then you still got time to win a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: money tonight. We're going to be playing mostly on DraftKings,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll talk about FanDuel just who knows in which ways.
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  Speaker 3: But hoopster, bring you in first, man. Coming off a
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  Speaker 3: crazy week one. in the NFL, but we got another game. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm never Mahomes, except when we have to.
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  Speaker 3: And when he's on showdown, you don't have to play him,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the time I want to play him. So
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  Speaker 3: what's going on, my friend? How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, a fun start to the season, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the first main slate, besides the little fan
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  Speaker 1: duel issue, if you're playing there, you probably ran into
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  Speaker 1: some issues. But overall, a good week one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: really high scoring. We talked about it on the show yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: We pulled it up, and I think the number was
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  Speaker 1: 179 was the winner. week one last year. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: winner this year was much, much higher than that. We
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  Speaker 1: had some massive scores. I mean, multiple running backs scoring
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  Speaker 1: three touchdowns, some huge performances out of the wide receiver position,
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  Speaker 1: some massive performances out of the quarterback position. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: some pretty big takeaways. You look at the Bears, for example,
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  Speaker 1: like they said, they wanted to break offensive records. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like they're going for it. I mean, 52 week
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  Speaker 1: one and You know, that's going to be a spot
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  Speaker 1: to attack moving forward against them because it looks like
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  Speaker 1: they're just not really all that concerned with defense. They're
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  Speaker 1: just going to go to outscore teams moving forward. The
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  Speaker 1: Chargers thing was definitely pretty surprising. Them losing straight up
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  Speaker 1: to Arizona was wild. And I mean, really, it was never,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're down the entire game. I mean, Arizona
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  Speaker 1: was in control that game all the way through. I thought,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was definitely surprising.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of nuggets that I'm sure we'll touch on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, now or in the upcoming shows, but a
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  Speaker 1: fun week one. And then we get to end with
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  Speaker 1: a banger here, the chiefs Broncos, which should be very
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  Speaker 1: fun for, for DFS. I'm excited to watch the game
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  Speaker 1: as well. And the homes recovering quickly. I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: he had that injury, a lot of people, and that's
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  Speaker 1: the one thing for sure as well, these, these guys
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  Speaker 1: getting these injuries, it would take, you know, a year
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  Speaker 1: to come back. Well, now it seems like they're coming
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  Speaker 1: back much quicker. Almost everybody that we thought might miss
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  Speaker 1: like Tucker, Tucker craft, Patrick Mahomes, there's a list of guys.
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  Speaker 1: They're all back for week one. So it looks like
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of turning the corner in terms of recovery
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  Speaker 1: on some of these longer term injuries, which is obviously
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  Speaker 1: good for everyone in their health, but yeah, chiefs Broncos excited.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I got a pretty good read on
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  Speaker 1: the situation tonight. So I'm excited for this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. I think they're all going to Germany
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  Speaker 3: to get the magic potion that you get there. You
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  Speaker 3: fix up the knee injuries, the ankle injuries. Obviously, Bo
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  Speaker 3: Nix having the injury last year, too. Just a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different stuff going on. Title, how was your week one,
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  Speaker 3: my friend, and what's going on with you on this Monday?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I pretty much probably broke that even
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  Speaker 4: a little up on the main slate, lost on showdown.
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  Speaker 2: That even is good. We take that for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see DraftKings pretty much subtweet FanDuel, but FanDuel
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  Speaker 4: did just release.
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  Speaker 3: They finally say something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just said something, and then, of course, I
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  Speaker 2: just lost it.
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  Speaker 4: But pretty much how they just made do with everyone,
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  Speaker 4: that they'll have good contests for week two.
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  Speaker 2: Let me go to FanDuel support. I just had it up,
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  Speaker 2: and then I saw.
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  Speaker 3: I read the DraftKings one on Takedown Breakdown earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, DraftKings, right here a minute ago.
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  Speaker 4: To our DFS customers, we acknowledge that yesterday's site issue
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  Speaker 4: was unacceptable. NFL week one is supposed to be a
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  Speaker 4: joyous time, and we fumbled. The team investigated the issue,
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  Speaker 4: plenty of fun in store for week two and beyond.
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  Speaker 4: So that's great news because obviously a monopoly in any
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  Speaker 4: industry is not good. I mean, the prices or the
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  Speaker 4: prices on FanDuel were still good. Like if they actually
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  Speaker 4: like had a site running. So I'm glad they're not
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  Speaker 4: giving up. They made it right with everyone. I'll still
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  Speaker 4: be playing on the site. But yeah, that's good that
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  Speaker 4: they at least acknowledge that. But yeah, crazy week one.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Survivor, one of the chalkiest teams go down.
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  Speaker 2: The Lions down. Barely, barely escaped. That was sad.
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  Speaker 4: Eagles in a close game. Packers, I mean, one drive
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  Speaker 4: absolutely just destroyed them, and then they couldn't get anything
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  Speaker 4: going after that. Jefferson's back. I mean, it was a
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  Speaker 4: fun week one, and I'm excited for tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I like the Saints, man. I like the way they
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  Speaker 3: came back, the way they did their thing at the end,
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  Speaker 3: and then obviously going for it in OT on the road.
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  Speaker 3: Just got to do it. It seems so obvious, but
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  Speaker 3: some people, they don't agree. But it's just, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: the right play. Make it happen. It doesn't work out.
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  Speaker 3: You move on to the next one. Detroit escapes with
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  Speaker 3: a win, but they probably– A win's a win. Vin Diesel,
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  Speaker 3: inch or a mile, doesn't matter. Winning's winning. But that
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  Speaker 3: definitely gives you some scaries on week one. I got
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  Speaker 3: to it, man. Give us your grand scheme overview. You
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  Speaker 3: said you got a good feel for this one. Broncos
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  Speaker 3: at the Chiefs. Let me know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean, you look at the game here,
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  Speaker 1: and let me just pull it up real fast. So,
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  Speaker 1: the total is relatively low, I think, for what you'd
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  Speaker 1: expect out of this game, right around, what, 44? I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to verify that. 43.5 on DJ. Yeah, 43.5,
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  Speaker 1: so it's, like, lower than I would have kind of anticipated,
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  Speaker 1: I think, for this game. I mean, I... I kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the over a little bit. I think there
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  Speaker 1: is a possibility for some scoring. I know both these
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  Speaker 1: defenses can be solid, but I kind of like scoring
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  Speaker 1: to occur in this game. You look at the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: side of things. One thing that I think about when
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  Speaker 1: I think of the Broncos, I know they got Jalen Waddell,
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  Speaker 1: but man, they just mix in so many random wide receivers,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's going to continue. Yes, they got Waddell.
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  Speaker 1: They have Sutton. Pat Bryant looked like a freaking stud
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  Speaker 1: at the end of last season. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you guys remember, and they were just like feeding him.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that he's just not going to be involved.
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  Speaker 1: Troy Franklin was another guy that looked pretty good at
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  Speaker 1: the end of last season, and they still have Mims
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  Speaker 1: who they're going to bring in for random plays. So
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  Speaker 1: when we get to talk about captain, we can kind
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  Speaker 1: of get into how that plays into what I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: at captain position. And then the tight ends for the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos really weren't involved all that much last year. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, now they have more pass catchers to go
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  Speaker 1: to and they have a split running back situation there,
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  Speaker 1: Dobbins and Harvey. On the Chiefs side, you know, Travis Kelsey,
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to get out of him at
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  Speaker 1: this point in his career? That's kind of a big discussion.
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  Speaker 1: You got big play guys and Rasheed Rice, Xavier Worthy.
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  Speaker 1: And then this Allen guy is another one of the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Cyrus Allen was another one of the best
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  Speaker 1: ball guys that kind of shot up at the end.
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  Speaker 1: People were taking a lot of him. Same with their
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  Speaker 1: backup running back, Emmitt Johnson. another guy that shot up
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  Speaker 1: the best ball draft boards towards the end of the season,
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  Speaker 1: as well as it appeared that he could make the roster.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different options here. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk about more when we get to captain.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a night where I kind of want
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  Speaker 1: to consolidate a little bit more and play a fewer
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  Speaker 1: number of captains. So we'll talk about when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, I mean, Broncos, Chiefs, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a fun one.
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  Speaker 3: give us your thoughts just to add on to Hoop there.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of broke down a lot, but we're going
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  Speaker 3: to go through captains, et cetera, but I'll let you
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  Speaker 3: start with your breakdown.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's five captains that are pretty much getting very
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  Speaker 4: similar ownership. No one we have projected over 16% at captain,
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  Speaker 4: but Bo Nix, Waddle, the two on the Broncos side,
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  Speaker 4: and then Mahomes, Kenneth Walker, Shee Rice.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, A, you.
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  Speaker 4: Can play all five of the chalky ones, play no
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  Speaker 4: one else, and still get overweight. Or you can fade
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  Speaker 4: one or fade two and then mix in some of
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  Speaker 4: the lower-owned pieces. I think it's a solid showdown slate, though.
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  Speaker 4: Like the Broncos' running back room, Harvey and Dobbins. So
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  Speaker 4: you have to make a decision there if they're both
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  Speaker 4: eating into each other's ownership. Hoop touched on the Broncos'
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver room with how many bodies they rotate in.
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  Speaker 4: Tight ends seem pretty bad, but they're cheap. And on
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  Speaker 4: the Chiefs side, yeah, Emmitt Johnson came about. He's going
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  Speaker 4: to be relatively popular. Oh, we have 3%.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. I think he'll probably be a little higher than that.
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  Speaker 4: But it's him and Pat Bryant is the clear value
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  Speaker 4: plays that people want to get to. Worthy, my man,
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  Speaker 4: Taequann Thornton, Cyrus Allen. So rotation at wide receiver three
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. Two kickers that can kick it. So
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  Speaker 4: I think it's kind of spread out. which I do
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  Speaker 4: like to see. So low total, only one player expected
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  Speaker 4: to score. Kenneth Walker minus 125. The next best, Rasheed Rice, 155.
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  Speaker 4: Then it gets close to the plus 200. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: excited to hear what you guys have to say.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see how this all shakes out
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  Speaker 3: too because Pat Bryant's there. Like Hoop said, obviously looked
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  Speaker 3: incredible there. I know Mims had a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: an injury but was full practice participant. this week. So, um,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's at three K just 200 bucks less.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's somewhat interesting. People can do the double
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  Speaker 3: dip tonight too, if they want the other kick returner
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  Speaker 3: as well as receiver. So maybe that's the thing, but
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  Speaker 3: let's get into the captain soup. You said there was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a few that you were thinking about, maybe
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  Speaker 3: less captains tonight. I'll let you start on the captains,
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  Speaker 3: get it over to title. I'll finish it out and
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  Speaker 3: then we'll hop into position by position after that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think mostly showdowns like so far this year,
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  Speaker 1: there's a pretty strong case to spread it out quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit, man. It happens a lot. Like we see
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  Speaker 1: it now, especially with everyone using the optimizers and things
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  Speaker 1: like that and contest Sims that like just forces in
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  Speaker 1: spread exposure. It's going to get you a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of everything. It's going to mix and match things. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, ownership just gets spread out quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be tighter for sure at, at captain
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  Speaker 1: and I'll just start on the Bronco side. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: I think like for me, it's Bo Nix for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I do want some exposure to Bo Nix for the
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  Speaker 1: reason I kind of touched on at the beginning where
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  Speaker 1: it's like there is they're going to mix in all
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  Speaker 1: these wide receivers. And anytime there's a solid quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: has like a bunch of different guys you can throw
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  Speaker 1: it to, I think you can definitely make the case
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  Speaker 1: to play that guy in the captain spot. So on
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos side, he is for sure my favorite. The
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  Speaker 1: ownership on him. we're showing like 14%. So it's nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a pretty good chance tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We see everything like 15% and above at the captain spot,
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  Speaker 1: because there's so many different options, so many different guys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people will mix in some defense captain as well.
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  Speaker 1: So like 15, 16% and below, below for everyone. It
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  Speaker 1: makes it easy if you're making multiple teams to get
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  Speaker 1: way over the field on what you want. So on
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos side, Bo Nix is by far my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be in on like Dobbins or
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  Speaker 1: Harvey splitting carries. Waddle, I'm fine with him. Like I'd
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  Speaker 1: keep him in the pool, but I'm not thrilled. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'd be fine if I was like underweight on Waddle.
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  Speaker 1: Same for Sutton. And I just don't want like Evan
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  Speaker 1: Ingram or anyone else. So really, I mean, the only
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  Speaker 1: captain I really like on the Denver Broncos side is
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  Speaker 1: for sure Bo Nix. And then if I had to
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  Speaker 1: pick a second, it would be Waddle, but I'm not,
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  Speaker 1: overly excited with waddle i think he's great i think
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  Speaker 1: he's a great player but i just have a feeling
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  Speaker 1: um a lot of these other guys are gonna get
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  Speaker 1: mixed and they're not going to just fully go away
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  Speaker 1: from pat bryant he was you know uh i i'm
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  Speaker 1: not yeah i'm i want to go the title route
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  Speaker 1: and give him like some sick comparison but uh i'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to go that path like he was he
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  Speaker 1: was legit though at the end of last season they
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  Speaker 1: were feeding his ass i think he got hurt uh
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  Speaker 1: towards the end of the year and it was over
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  Speaker 1: but he was he looked solid too so i do
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  Speaker 1: like him not captain but just a reason to temper
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  Speaker 1: the expectations, at least for me, on Jalen Waddell. On
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs side, you know, you always say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: never Mahomes, but you put the disclaimer in there that
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  Speaker 1: when we're talking small slates and showdown, it's a little different.
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  Speaker 1: You're just talking main slate, and we've gotten to that point,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone accepts that. I do like him a little
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  Speaker 1: bit in the captain, but not a ton. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the reason he was becoming a better just overall fantasy
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  Speaker 1: player last year was he's running a lot more With
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  Speaker 1: this injury, I just can't imagine he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: looking to run all that much. I think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to want to sit back and throw more. So fine
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  Speaker 1: with him and the captain. Don't love him. I think
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is definitely fine. We have him at– he's
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  Speaker 1: right there in that range. There's a bunch of these
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  Speaker 1: guys that are like 14%, 15%, 16%. I'm good with
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker. I do think these other guys get used, though.
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  Speaker 1: Like that Emmett Johnson guy, there's a lot of hype
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  Speaker 1: around him, I believe. Smith they kept as well on
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  Speaker 1: the roster another guy that a lot of people had
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  Speaker 1: let me see what's so I see what the project
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  Speaker 1: so I mean Smith has a projection as well so
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  Speaker 1: I think these guys will get mixed in Walker's fine
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  Speaker 1: but I mean by far my favorite guy though on
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs is it's Rasheed Rice for sure and I
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  Speaker 1: hope the ownership stays where it is we have it
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  Speaker 1: at like 14% like he's the by far my favorite
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  Speaker 1: captain on the slate. When he's healthy and Mahomes is healthy,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: they have just one of those connections that's just so elite.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: He's a guy that can get there just on receptions,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: eight to nine catches for 100 yards, might not even
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: need to get into the box. I think Rice is
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: just an absolute smash play today. I absolutely love him.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I know Broncos have some good cornerbacks. I'm not really
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: worried about that. Rasheed Rice is super legit. They'll move
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: him around, too, to different areas. Worthy, maybe fine with
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: him and the captain a little bit, but I'm not
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: messing with Kelsey up there. Really, for me, captain, three
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: main guys, maybe four. I'll say three. Bo Nix, Rasheed Rice,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, and I'd be fine with Mahomes. Again, if
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: you only play three or four, you can easily get
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: way overweight on them. I think tonight is definitely a
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: night for me where I'm going to keep it condensed
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: at the captain spot.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing you said there, I think, is like
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Rasheed Rice. They definitely do move from around. He moves
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: around a lot. He goes in the field. He goes
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: to jail. They move him out of jail. He goes
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: to the hospital, get a little knee surgery. They move
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: him back to jail. He gets to go back there
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: and then finish out his 30-day sentence. But all that
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: matters is what he does on the field. So definitely
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: think that.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: He's toughened up, man. The offseason toughened him up. He's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: ready for anything.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Look at Scotty Scheffler, man. He spent, you know, one
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: day in there, one morning, came back out and shot
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: like a 65 that day. So, you know, sometimes you
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: just got to get put in your place for a
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: little bit. But I think at the end of the day,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: speaking of field, you know, not just how the field's
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: handling him, it looks like you said everything's sort of
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: being kept in check there. There's still love for Kenneth Walker.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: There's still love for Mahomes. But you said it. It's
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: always my disclaimer on Mahomes. I think he'll be– I
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: don't even know how it'll play out. Like I'll let
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Tidal give his thoughts, but like Bo Nix– walker rice
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: i mean some like all those guys for sure waddle
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: so it's like somewhere mahomes is in that mix of
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: those top five yes but i just don't know exactly
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: where it will be and i'm comfortable um getting an
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: overweight stance even with him because it's when you've got
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: rice worthy thornton all these other options kelsey well he's
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: early in the season and still healthy right now we'll
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: see how that goes for him as it goes on
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: but title give us your thoughts in the captain position.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah i think kind of said it from the beginning
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: i'm probably going to play the main guys that are
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: getting the ownership, and then J.K.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Dobbins.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: My favorite two are just the two new additions, Kenneth
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Walker on the Chiefs, Jalen Waddell on the Broncos. I
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: think they want to showcase their big additions. KC just
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: pounding the football with Kenneth Walker, set up play action.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: It's been a little bit since Mahomes has been able
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: to just turn around and hand it off 25 times confidently,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: and that's what they finally have this year, and I
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: do think Andy Reid does that. And then on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Broncos side, yeah, Jalen Waddell's their new toy, and I
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: expect them to try and get up the ball early
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: and often. Outside of those two, it is J.K. Dobbins
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: for me. Yeah, for the best ball people out there,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: you know, like R.J. Harvey was going ahead of J.K.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I think that's just a lot of hoping the second
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: half of the year that Harvey takes over. Because, I mean,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: the props right now, J.K. Dobbins, 50-and-a-half rushing prop on
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: the ground, 17-and-a-half for R.J.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Harvey.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: It just shows really clear that the base work they
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: think is going to be Dobbins.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Harvey Moore, pass catching, more third down stuff. And J.K.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Dobbins is cheaper and still only showing about 3% at captain.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: And then when you play Dobbins at captain, it leverages
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: off some Waddle, some Bo Nix, captain there as well.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: So I think Dobbins is really strong at what we're showing, 3.5%.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going Waddle. I'm going Kenneth Walker, the new toys.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: And then from there, it's probably Bo Nix, Mahomes, The
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: nice thing about them is they spread it out a
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: good bit. They can throw three touchdowns at three different people.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Not sure about the legs on both guys coming off
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: of leg injuries, like how much they're going to rush
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: in this one, but they spread it out enough.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dobbins, Waddle, and Kenneth Walker, my three favorites.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: And do you think for building too, I was going
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: to ask you this, but it's more of a flex
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: when we get there, I guess, but it is kind
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: of up top. It makes sense with Dobbins because you're
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: going with the props and also how that game's playing out.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: But if you are going to play those builds with
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: say my homes up top, then maybe you want to
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: have a Harvey where even though the ownership is kind
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: of the same, it's like if they're, maybe they're shutting
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: down the road, they're up ahead and they got to
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: check it down. And he's, he's slated for three catches,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: 17 yards, give or take on depending where you look
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: for props. So it's like kind of that process, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: that's not very much when you got to pay, you know, 11.1
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: K up top and 7,400 in the flex for RJ Harvey.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: So it definitely is interesting from that perspective as well. Yeah.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: It's RJ Harvey's a clear, like pay up to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: contrarian option. And then, You hope Dobbins maybe it's like
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: his ownership sunk because in game scripts that Harvey does well,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: it's probably not Dobbins.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: It's pretty tough for me to get to Harvey. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: we play a lot of teams, so I'm going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: have some. But in those teams, he's the reason I'm
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: getting different. It's he's clearly overpriced for his props.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I like Jake the Tank back with us. I'm with
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: you on that one. And Hoop, the Buffalo fans are
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: already coming for you in the chat. They can't wait
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: for Thursday. It's Detroit at Buffalo.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Lions are going to get fucking destroyed. Sorry to cuss
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: right out of the gate with the strong swear word,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: but they're going to get spanked.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: What did I see the other day? I was doing
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: my calendar up. It's like, I think Kansas City's got
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: three games or two games. like they're they really made
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: it so like they feature teams however they did it
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: this season so like the Rams have already been up.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: They're coming up next Monday. Detroit, or sorry, I think
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: it's like Buffalo is on there twice. Kansas City is
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: coming up again next Sunday. Detroit's later in the month
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. They put all the kind of same team,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Dallas coming up again at the end of the month.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: They just keep putting the same teams for these Island games.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: So you'll get used to these and we'll find some
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: of this stuff as well. But I don't have too
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: much else to add. I don't think like, I feel
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: like pretty much in the same place you guys are.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I think that I guess I'll say it this way.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: The five captains that we talked about do feel like
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the more correct captains. When I'm getting loose tonight in
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: the portfolio play, it'll be with more like Kelsey, I think,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: because like I say, earlier in the season at a
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: fair price, 10-5, I could go there. I also think
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: there's something to be said for like dependent on how
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you want to build, but maybe someone mentioned in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: chat earlier, like the kicker captain, this could, this can
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: be two defenses that just show up and you could
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: just see them get to half a lot. And then
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: those four pointers, five pointers start to rack up. They're
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: worth more than passing touchdowns in some cases. So it's
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: just like a, one of those games. I think that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: could be the case as well. It's tough to see, but.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Lower total, could see it happening. Hoop, I'll go back
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to you. Anything else you want to add at the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: quarterback position as a whole? You mentioned Mahomes, maybe not
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: running as much. Obviously, he was starting to a bunch
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: last year. You'd expect just coming off that, what do
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: they say? It's like 274 days coming off that surgery
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and then coming to play. So give us any more
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: thoughts you have at the quarterback position and then flex
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: and how you're thinking about it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I definitely prefer Bo Nix
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: over Mahomes up top and in the flex spot. Like
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: if you're deciding, obviously, correlation, is uh you know above
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: everything else so i mean if you have like you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: know rishi rice captain team and you're deciding which quarterback
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: to use obviously use my homes if you're only playing
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: one if you have a waddle captain team and you're
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: deciding between my homes and bo nicks and the flex
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and you're only playing one obviously make sure it's bo
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: nicks but if in a neutral situation between the two
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: i just think i prefer bo nicks tonight um i
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: think he can do a little bit more on the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: ground And I just expect, you know, Denver's offense to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: maybe flow a little bit better. Not necessarily saying Denver
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: wins the game, but I just, I just, I just
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: like the offense a little bit better at this point.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So definitely I would say I'd lean Bo Nix over
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes if decided between those two.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: What, um, what do you think title on the bone next? So,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: so I guess I will say this as one more,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: cause we're going to quarterback. I know we already talked
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: through captain, but just noting this is last night, uh,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: dart succeeded heavily at the captain, a lot of runs
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: for him, different factors like, you know, uh, that they
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: set up for him in his favor, but designed runs
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: was what I was trying to think of. And then
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you had Dak on the other side, who's obviously a
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: bit more standstill. He'll run, you know, 15, 20 yards
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: on the ground here and there, but it's kind of like,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: it's not what you're going to expect from a guy
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: like dart. do you think that factors in at all
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: where people just assume like Knicks is the, if they're
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: going to pick one tonight, it's going to be Knicks
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that he kind of moves around
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: a little bit more and can do that. But then also, um,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you know, just the comments in, in camp and stuff
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: like that, people talking about, I just saw two hours ago,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: it says, um, Pat Sertain says, Bo's back looking better
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: than ever. I see it every day at practice. He's
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: truly about to take off this season. And we're all, again,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: he's biased. That's his guy. But from the Mahomes injury
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: situation and seeing Dak fail last night, I think a
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: lot of people are going to think more, let's just
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: get Knicks if we're only picking one quarterback in our lineup,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: up top or in the flex.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I have it pretty much how we have it. And
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that is the exact same at flex. And I mean,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: we have 1% different at captain. I do think it
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: comes in pretty much the same Because, I mean, Bo
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Nix had his right ankle fracture as well. Both guys
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: coming off the injury. I don't expect either to really
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: try and run. I think that both coaches are going
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: to try and slam the football. It's going to play
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: to the under. They're going to play their defense, set
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: up play action. When we get to running back and
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: then talk receiver, like I like these running backs. The
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: backup running backs I think are in play. And I
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: don't think they're going to try and put it on
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: either quarterback too, too much to start the season unless
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they have to.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that could be the case as well.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Anything else on my home side of things or anything
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: else you want to add there?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: No, like I'm fine with the quarterbacks, but I'm not
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: in love with it. I like Waddle. I like Kenneth
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: and I like Dobbins more in a vacuum at ownership.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Take, keep, keep that thought rolling. Then we're going to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: take it right into running back. So you just mentioned
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: those guys. What else are your thoughts here at the
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: running back position tonight? And then thinking about from a
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: build perspective, like even that example we talked about earlier
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: where it's like Dobbins more, you know, run it, like
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you said, down their throat, hope that that works, gain
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: that yardage quickly versus, you know, RJ Harvey needing to
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: catch those passes to sort of rack them up in
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: a full PPR site, especially like DraftKings, which favorable today
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: for most, I'm sure, but there's bonus money out there now.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So who knows?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you think the game's close to
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the Broncos' lead, I think Dobbins is just the better
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: play for 1,000 less. The props agree with him. He'll
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: be on the field more. But to be contrarian, in
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: lineups that the Chiefs jump up 21-0 or something like that,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: in Mahomes' captain teams or Rice's captain teams are worthier.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe something where R.J.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Harvey, maybe you do just want to go all the
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: way up top with him and he gets some garbage time.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Not my favorite way to approach it, but Yeah, he's
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: showing less than 20% and is a big play guy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: So on the other side, though, again, I like Dobbins.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I keep saying it. I can't say it anymore. I
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like Kenneth. I don't need to say that anymore. But
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Emma Johnson is definitely the one. And I said, I
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: guess from the top, when I saw we had 3.5%,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: maybe that is what he's going to be. I sure
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: hope so because I at least want to be double
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: the field on him. He flew up best ball drafts
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: as well. He took the number two job in Kansas City.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: He was fighting with a couple people. The coaches love him.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: He's athletic. He can get upfield. He can catch the football.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: He's only 2,600.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: And like we saw with McCaffrey, I do think early
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: on in the season, I mean, we saw Chuba, Jonathan
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Brooks a little bit.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Not as much with Gibbs. But I don't think these
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: teams are going to run.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Their bell cow out 90-plus percent of snaps unless the
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: opportunity or the situation is unique. And I don't think
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: it's the case here. I think Johnson's going to be involved.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: in passing down situations.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: He's 2,600.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Andy Reid can get cute with plays. One touchdown on him,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: he's pretty much sitting in the optimal. So I like
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: all running backs in this one, really except RJ Harvey.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: The best is like the Broncos just keep reading about
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: this stuff. I love looking at these little nuggets and
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: tidbits on what they talk about. It's like everything about
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Dobbins is positive, but it's almost like always with a
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: caveat of like, well, he's healthy when he's healthy because
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: they're suspecting the injury is just going to happen.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: They're already talking about Jonah Coleman if Dobbins isn't healthy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And it's like the immediate thought for them. So it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: interesting from that perspective.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Hoop.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Anything you want to add here at the running back?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I'm curious mostly about thoughts on Kenneth Walker, the third,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: and then your, your breakdown of sort of what title
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: went through with the Dobbins versus Harvey stuff on the
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: other side.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, really like Kenneth Walker, obviously it's not like
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: a hot take or anything. I mean, you know, by
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: far the most stable running back play, uh, in this game.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have the split on the other side
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and then you have a third guy that everyone's talking
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: about in, in Coleman, uh, our guys back Yogi Trice.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Got that ticket, boys, going to the finals.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Did he win the Ship of Games ticket? Oh, really?
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Is it Ship of Games?
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Is it the World Championship?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Give us a little clarification on that. We'd appreciate it. But, yeah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: obviously fine with Dobbins. I mean, great play in basically
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: all formats. I'm not as excited about the Denver stuff.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You have a split and then a third guy that
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: got a lot of talk. in in preseason and in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: training camp and Coleman's you got Dobbins you got Harvey
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: and then potentially Coleman as well it's like just man
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: how much is there enough to go around I don't
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: know like I think they're they're better plays if you
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: think this is a low scoring game like if you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: think this is a grinded out um under sort of
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: game where the the final score is like 20 to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: 14 or something then yeah maybe these guys are better
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: plays I kind of think we get some points here
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: so I'm just not as interested in like Dobbins, Harvey,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: all that much. I mean, it's still 6,400 for Dobbins.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: So you got to do, you got to do something
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: at the, what do you get?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: You got the FFWZC.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: The big boy. Let's go.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: So that's amazing, man.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Man, those $ 1. 99 tips are going to.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Be on the rise. Now everyone's going to ask me
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing every time I leave.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is some good mojo to set on a
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning. You get the $ 1.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: 99 tip.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You did it twice, right? And then takes down the seat. So, yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: congratulations on that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: That's huge.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Emmett Johnson, I do want to mix it, though. I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: he's a guy at that price tag. if he gets
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a two minute drive at the end of the half,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: like you can pay everything off at that point. So
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: in on him and then, you know, maybe some, some
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Smith a little bit. I'm not, I'm not going to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: exclude any of these guys. That's for sure. I'm going
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to keep them in the player pool, but not overly excited.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely more interested in the Casey guys
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: than the Denver guys.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just going to say, I think it's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Cash Yobi I see over there. That's very nice. So, yeah,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: congrats on the seed. Also, I saw earlier.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Look at him.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You don't got to do that, man.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very nice.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: You don't need to.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Appreciate that. I was also going to say this. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: know the chat wished him. Somebody here got him already.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: But John, happy birthday. Says, took the day off to
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: celebrate my 45th birthday. Told the wife I wanted to
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: catch the boys break down Monday Night Football live. And
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that's awesome, man.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Happy birthday to you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Some more comments and lots of talk on Walker as
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the primary captain all over. Can see Broncos focus on
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: stopping the run. Then maybe Mahomes need to throw. I mean, that's,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we'll see how it actually shakes out.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe if that's the case, just build your teams like that,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: you know, if that's your, your read on the situation,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: build your teams accordingly.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent. So yeah, I think that's, that's the
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: main thoughts there. I don't have too much else to
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: add on that one. I definitely was leaning the way
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: title was on the Broncos side and then how I'm
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: building is accordingly to that. And then on the other side,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like you said, it's like the Walker stuff. If he
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: does keep picking up the steam, as it seems he will,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: like I said earlier, I'm already higher on the homes anyway.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: So I think we're in good shape here going into
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the wide receiver position. Now this title is where it
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: gets interesting. Little bit tricky. Like, and we know who
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: talked about liking rice. You know, we know about the
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: waddle stuff. I think it was our guy Tyler earlier said,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: you know, Peyton said preseason, he wanted to use waddle
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: like he did Michael Thomas. Only problem is waddle can't
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: stay on the field for more though. Yeah. Talk about that.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Crystal Lave. No wonder, buddy. Got the guardian cap on.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: And I heard the comments after he's like, I got
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: kids now. I want to live longer. I want to think.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: about that stuff. I don't care what I look like,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: but every time I literally think he went four times
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: to the medical.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Three or four. Definitely at least three though. No exaggeration.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: But anyway, congrats to him for a good game, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: title wide receiver. I'm just looking even at, so I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: don't see any Franklin props. It seems like they don't
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: have any, you know, love for him, but you do
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: have like mims. Troutman, Waddle, Harvey, Ingram, like they're giving
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: everybody something on those props for these wide receivers. So
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a bit of a crapshoot. I'm just,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: that's just the Detroit side. And then, you know, no
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: secret on the chief side, they like to move it
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: around some and you get Noah gray and all, we'll
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: get to all these guys later, but Tycon, Tycon Thornton,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: almost 20 yards on the prop, you know, Xavier worthy,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: almost 40 where she writes just over 50 Kelsey over 40.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: When we get there, what's your thoughts here on these
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: wide receiver rooms?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I don't love the wide receivers relative to
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: running backs. I think both teams are going to run
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: the football more, and I prefer to play them. But
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: when we are talking receivers, yeah, Waddle's my favorite.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Again, the new toy, that's where I'm going.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: And because I like Kenneth, because I like the quarterbacks
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: a bit, I think that just naturally leaves me with
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: the least amount of interest in Rasheed Rice at cost.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And I feel fine with that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, videos on Twitter and all this don't
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: mean much, but I cannot get him running a post
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: route out of jail, from jail to the practice field
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to running in slow motion. And that is all I
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: need to see to be fine with that when he's
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: in the price range of other guys that I like.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: So he could definitely burn me. I'd rather play Xavier Worthy,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: as you guys probably know, for cheaper. Sean asked about
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Worthy at captain. Yeah, I mean, it's never bad. He
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: has a huge, huge upside. But again, there's others I
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: like today, plenty more, which is why I didn't mention them.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I prefer Worthy at the flex. And then Tyquan Thornton,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: like he's the one that stood out to me. Like
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: you said, a real prop at 20 and a half.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: All this talk on Cyrus Allen, maybe later in the year,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: but I think it is going to be Thornton as
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: a wide receiver three. It's kind of reminds me of
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: the Matt Collins, Kyle Williams situation for the Pats where
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Thornton has a prop. Kyle Williams didn't. Thornton has a prop.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Cyrus Allen doesn't. Hollins had a prop. Kyle Williams didn't.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: And it just feels like he is going to be
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: on the field more when he is on the field.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: I'm always a fan. Like the dude just makes plays.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: He's long, he's fast. Mahomes will find anybody that's open
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: and he's cheap. You look at Pat Bryant's right in
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: that same range, looking at double the ownership as Thornton.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: So I think he's a solid pivots.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Like Marvin Mims, he can always get there in a play,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: but he's not going to be out there as much.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So I would prefer Pat Bryant on that side. It's
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Cortland Sutton. You're overspending to get a little different, indifferent
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: to it. Mainly Thornton. worthy waddle in the flex, but
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I like receivers and I like the running backs more.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I think this game plays slower. Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Who I'll let you add to that. Cause there's a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: lot of the same for me in there, but what,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: what are you thinking of the wide receiver position today?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: So kind of already touched on Rishi rice. It just might,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you know, probably definitely one of my favorite plays on
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the slate, captain flex, everything. I mean, I think he
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: is just a absolute stud when my homes is healthy
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and he's healthy. They just have one of the best
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: connections in football, move them around and all that stuff.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: So I think Rice is is an amazing play. Xavier Worthy,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: one of those guys, just one play. I mean, 50,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: 60 yard touchdown upside. They're going to take at least
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: one or two shots with it. Does he catch it?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Does he not? Greer with the Thornton stuff. I'm good
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: with him at 36 and I'll include. uh, Cyrus Allen
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in there more so on my home's captain teams. It's
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: not like he has a full punt price. It's, uh,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: where's he at? He's four, four K. So it's like, yeah,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: got to kind of do a little bit of something there. So, um,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: like all those guys, definitely Rasheed Rice thing is absolutely stud.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And then on the Denver side, I'm playing a lot of, uh,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Bo Nix captain team. So if that's the case, I'm
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: going to play all these Denver guys, um, Waddle Sutton,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: You know, Pat Bryant, just too cheap. He's getting some
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: ownership for sure. There's no doubt about it. I mean, people,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he's another guy that had good talk in
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the offseason that he's still going to be involved, blah, blah, blah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: all that. So that's why we're seeing ownership on him
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: when the price is only $ 32, but I still like him.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Marvin Mims is a one-play sort of guy on Fort.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Was it Marvin Mims that took that seat away from you?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was Lil' Jordan, right? Lil' Jordan.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Lil' Jordan. Why did I think it was Mims?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: That you brought that up. Cause we just talked about it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: We didn't talk about that, but I'm going to add
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: to cut you off. But Frankie born for FJ born
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: is who took that seat for me. I've told the
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: story before and it's like, he, He would hit me
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: up after he's like, you know, we both know it
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: is what it is like this happens. That's the game.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: And anyway, it was awesome that he reached out and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: like we chatted back and forth on that. So he
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: won the mega Millie yesterday with Jefferson at the end.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was because the Raiders went
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: down a little bit. He won by 0.24 or if
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: it was Jefferson that got him all the way there
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: at the last of it. But anyway, he won the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: mega yesterday. He just posted a GIF of Tupac smoking
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a cigar, which everyone who knows him knows what just
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: happened because they follow him for that reason. So he won.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: It was like that. He didn't even post a screenshot.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He posts the follow-up screenshot It said, not this time, Satan.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And it is the million dollar downswing over the last
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: two years of like down $ 750K, up $ 250K, down another $ 500K,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: up $ 250K, down again, and then bang. And he ended
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: up being up $ 250K after the last two years of,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: he said, all play. Like he put it in there.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: So just crazy. um the sweats and swings and everything
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: that's why when someone's like oh they got you for
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: this it's like you don't know what other people are
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: going through what that means to them or this that
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and the other so it's important to kind of it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: why it's fun to follow along with the community you
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: kind of know what's going on with everybody connect with
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: them and that but not everybody posts that stuff out
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: there so anyway congrats to frankie but that was just
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: a cool story and now you brought that up yeah
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: that was that was what it was little jordan humphrey yeah.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: A little jordan i don't know why mims popped in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: my head i should obviously know it was little jordan Um, uh, yeah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm playing all these pass catchers, I guess, cause
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I'm playing, uh, quarterback captains, specifically Bo Nix captains. Uh,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I guess after rice, um, you know, I probably lean
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the Denver guys just cause I'm going to have more
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Bo Nix up top than I will my homes, but
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: we have some solid options here for sure.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. This is like a every year thing
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: that we deal with.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. That's the guy. I mean, sure. Okay.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But guess what? They're going to show.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Down though, man. Like it just doesn't matter. They move
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: guys around. Like it just does not matter. Like if
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: he shuts them down, he shuts them down. Sometimes they'll
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: avoid it whenever, but I got like, they're talking about
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: getting rice involved in a bunch of different ways. This
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: guy could be getting, you know, end arounds and stuff.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: You have no idea. So like the point is, Especially
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: in showdown, let other people avoid situations like that because
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: of matchups or this, that, and the other. You can
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: get there in other ways. Anything else, Title, from you?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: If not, we can keep it moving.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: No, nothing. A, Jefferson's the freaking man. There's no doubt
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: about that. LSU Knicks got the jokes.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: How fitting. Was it the first pass from Kyler Murray
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that was intercepted? Yeah. What an amazing, amazing start.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Jefferson, he gets Wentz in there. He's like, yes, this
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: guy can actually see me and we get it done, baby.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Anyone but nine.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. They got a tough situation over there.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: This is, I did see this Axtron. I posted about this,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: took out Henry for HN. It's a, it's a bad
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: late swap for sure, but you still got some cash
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, you, you made the decision for a reason.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And I'm saying in a good way is like, if
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: you have a process and you, you said like, this
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: is why I'm moving it good. If you listen to
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: somebody else say, no, don't play this guy, play this
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: guy instead. That's when it gets a little bit tricky.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Cause you kind of want to make sure you're following
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: your own, uh, optionality and process that you can rely
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: on in the future. And that's what we try and
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: teach over at Shiba Nation.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a tough one. That was a
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: tough one yesterday with HN. It killed me too. I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: had actually a really good day on DK. I had
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that Lions game stacked up, all the pieces, melee, everything
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in there, every part, Amon Ra going into the 4 p.m.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Games.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I just needed something decent from HN and I'm sitting
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: pretty and then he does nothing. Still had a good day,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: maybe 4X or something, my buy-ins, which is nice. But like, man,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it's like it makes it even worse when you're looking
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: around that running back board and every other guy just
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: went off. So, like, three touchdowns here, three touchdowns there.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone but A. Chan and Hampton. You play anyone else
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: as a spender. E. John, Gibbs, JT.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Anything, yes.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: We were over a lot of stuff yesterday, I think.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, like Coker, and, man,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it's just– everyone that played Kale played a receiver and
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: it had to be with Swift.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So that was the reason you didn't see those teams
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: up there as much. That is wild though.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: His numbers, Caleb's and none of those guys do anything.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Like none of them do anything.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Loveland with the goose egg is one of the most
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: crazy things.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was us tilting in the discord and people
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: are like, I can't believe I played Loveland.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: It's like we played a game before it locks. If
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I told you that Chicago is scoring 50 plus points, you.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Don't want it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: He ran all the routes. Komet got the touchdown. Loveland
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: also had two times he was targeted I think in
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the end zone. The ball got tapped down before and
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I think the other one got picked or something. I
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: forget what happened, but anyway, my point being We've got
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: to live with those things and move on. There is
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: some thoughts around it. Like you said, not a lot
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: of people stack Caleb with Swift.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: You can. But it's things like that that you've got
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: to think about. Jamar Chase hurt people's feelings for sure.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But what we say, if you're not playing Jamar Chase
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: and you think that the Bengals are putting up 30
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: points almost, which is what it kind of was slated, 27.5
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: or something, then you've got to think about what does
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that mean for the Bengals? Well, you could have played
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Chase Brown. You could have played the defense that goes
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: against them.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: The defensive touchdowns just kill so much in games like that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And you got Baker, what, did he fumble three times? But, man,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: how bad are the Dolphins, though? Ooh, it's going to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: be a long season for them boys.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: What about the Browns?
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Browns and Dolphins.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: And, man, as bad as people thought the Cardinals would be,
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: when you have Randy Moss Jr. and one of the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: best tight ends, you're going to move the football, and
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: that's what they do.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they got there too, yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's interesting.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Like they just have offensive pieces anyway huh i was
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: just saying i didn't i was talking about the same
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: game so i was running off it but i didn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: like the chargers didn't want the mcconkey was moving all
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: around and doing his thing before the injury sure and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: i had him and i like that but it was
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: like nothing they did wowed me that was like oh
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: man this new offense looks incredible like.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I think the dude's a fraud i mean mcdaniel i
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: mean it's just i mean he's got to be at
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: this point like he's just not.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's just more the visual of him gets
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: people excited than the actual product itself. He just sucks.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: These young guys, man, that just roll in and just
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: get all that money and then bail. What's... cliff with
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the other guy that was.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: With them before kingsbury kingsbury yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: But he's always with like the hottest models just hanging
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: out doing whatever he wants the guy i think he
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: like three teams or like two teams on 20 mil
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: a piece and he just collects that cash as he
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: moves on i said it before like you just got
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: to get that job and you're set man you can
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: do whatever he wants you still can like claim to
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: fame i can fix your stuff good salesman Very good salesman.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. In the NFL, it's like you get in.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: It's just the retread of the coaching cycle. You're guaranteed
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to get another opportunity, another opportunity. Maybe this McDaniel guy
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: just sucks. Can we say that?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Can we say Matt LaFleur sucks finally? Are people finally
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: over this guy?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Who is good, though?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: That's the question.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: McVay?
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Give me Ben Johnson. Give me Sean McVay. Give me
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Andy Reid. Give me Mike.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: We're talking young guys.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, Andy Reid.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: McDonald on the Seahawks.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks guy is very legit.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's easier, obviously, when the teams are good,
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: but it's like, are they good?
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, they weren't always good. Yeah, they weren't always good.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like he made them good. I got
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and him. Yeah, if we're putting it up
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: in front, I'm taking those two.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's solid, too.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Shanahan, yeah.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Shanahan, for sure. That one's solid, but he also
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: has a, you know, he's literally from the, Shanahan from
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the Shanahan tree. Like, most of them are from the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Shanahan tree. He's literally born on that tree. So that
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: kind of helps to be around it your whole life too.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: It's not even anything else. He does his own stuff.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, it's like, it's, it's cool when that's
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: your dad and you can bring the same flame and
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: the fire to it. I love that about certain situations. So,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: all right. What, um, what else do we got tight
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: end here? Title, you want to go first, kick, kick
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: it over to that. I talked about Kelsey, um, you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: bringing the beach bod, but he's still early in the season.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: He's ready to go. He's got him and Taylor Swift
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: in the off season, everything going on there. But I
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: think from a perspective of like being able to use
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: him looks very, I should, I was gonna say worthy,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: no pun intended. Cause we've got X worthy, but you
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: can play them both. But I think Travis Kelsey is
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: a good candidate tonight as well.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's he in the kind of
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: Mark Andrews who I didn't look lost, but definitely a
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: little lost to stop.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Hawkinson looked good to me. Goddard looked fine.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: Like what point of his career he's seven K I'd
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: prefer worthy for 400 less who's less owned and you
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: can leave the money.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: So I know that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I prefer Dobbins for 600 less. I'm worried that Kelsey
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: might have lost a step a little bit. But it's
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: mainly how I just think the game goes. So I'm
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: fine with Kelsey. He's my favorite tight end of either team.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: But that's not saying much. I mean, the Broncos aren't
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: known to use their tight ends much. Ingram's fine. He's
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: still showing some ownership. I don't like Noah Gray. I
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: don't like any other backup on the Broncos. So Kelsey, fine.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I don't love it, really. I don't love Ingram. I
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: don't like the tight end room today. Man.
• 44:06
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• 44:09
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• 44:11
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• 44:13
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• 44:15
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• 44:20
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• 44:23
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• 44:25
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• 44:29
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• 44:32
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• 44:44
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• 44:47
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• 44:50
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• 44:53
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• 44:59
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• 45:52
  Speaker 3: your thoughts at tight end.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Pretty much the same. I mean, we've seen a lot
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of these showdown sites. Tight ends look pretty loaded and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: pretty solid. This one, one of the worst tight end
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: rooms in these two teams combined. I mean, you've got
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, who, yes, but what does he have at
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: this point and how in shape or whatnot is he?
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of talk about retirement before he signed back on.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Denver doesn't really use their tight ends all that much
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and they have more guys at wide receiver even more
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: than they had last year and they weren't using the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: tight ends last year so just really tough to know
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: what you're going to get I mean I guess I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: would say with basically all these guys like all better
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: suited for quarterback captain teams like low scoring quarterback captain
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: sort of teams where you know one touchdown could be
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: enough for something so Don't love tight end at all. Kelsey,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you know, the clear play here, but not inspiring stuff whatsoever.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because you're just going to be funneling
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: those guys in when you're playing them or in your
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: portfolio and that sort of thing. It's just going to
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: be a matter of like. You know, Noah Gray instead
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: of Thornton. And if he gets the point somehow, even
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: though Thornton has the better, what's the prop title was
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: like 17 and a half versus nine and a half.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Like obviously Gray could catch one touchdown and Thornton gets
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: you to 25 yards, but it's only on two catches
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: or something. It's like you need to know a gray
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and leave the money.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: 20 and a half, nine and a half. So yeah.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: So like those are what I think these guys get
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: funneled in for, you know, Evan Ingram, no one's really
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: on him. I mean, he might actually be the most interesting,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: although I don't trust it at all. I'm just saying
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: it's like a 3,400 over there. it's at least competition
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: for Pat Bryant, Mims, Franklins that are mostly going to
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: be the ones getting mixed in. So I think that's somewhat,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: but honestly, he might be the second owned to them.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Like he'll probably still be more owned than Mims and Franklin.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: So it'd kind of just be a decision there with
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: him and Pat Bryant, but I don't have too much
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: else to add here. I think Kelsey is the most
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: interesting of the bunch, not because it's the most obvious,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: but because I said it earlier, I would also consider
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: him at captain. tonight to get you a more balanced bill,
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: just a different roster construction. He's 10, five at the captain.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: If he's going to have an actual Kelsey type game
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: or something that's needed, the, the way that works is
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: if it gets really spread out at the other spots.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: And we both, we all talked about this, that both
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: these quarterbacks and teams can spread the ball at a ton.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: That's why we had interest in Bo Nix and my
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: homes up top. So that kind of solves it for
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: me right there. All right, Hoop, talk to us about
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: the defenses and the kickers. Any preference tonight on either
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: of those? Like I know we'll go to title next.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: He said it could be sort of that slog type game,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: run the ball a bunch and then whatever. I think
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: that affects both defenses and kickers. So got to think
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: from that perspective. What's your thoughts?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Always, always in on my guy, Bucker. I mean, he's super,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, a legit kicker. I mean, very steady. They'll
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: kick field goals too. I mean, they're fine with it.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of teams will push it a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: little bit more that the chiefs are definitely fine taking,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: taking field goals in certain situations. So, and I'm Bucker
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: who's Denver at will lots. Yeah, sure. I mean, I'll include,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, in these games, I think these guys could
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: actually be better in the low scoring sort of games
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: where just give me some points and, and You know,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: let's let's move on. So always good with those two guys.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: And then defense. I mean, going to keep it included.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't know. I mean, maybe
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: prefer the Broncos over the Chiefs.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Like, I'll keep them in. and it's going to be
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: one of those nights, whatever I get, I get at defense.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Title, what's your thoughts? I mean, you mentioned how the
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: game could go that way, and when you're building for that,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: how are you thinking about using these two different positions
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: mixed in?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if I think lower scoring, running, not as many.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: If receivers aren't catching a bunch of passes, less full-point PPR,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: there's lower scoring, then I have interest in all four
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: of them. I can go any RJ Harvey, any Dobbins,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: any Kelsey, any worthy team, and I wouldn't be shocked
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: if either defense or either kicker outscored them today in
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: a vacuum. So for that reason, I think I should
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: be overweight all four, or at least close. Bucker's my favorite,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm in on all of them for sure,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: especially coming on.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: The defense, a spot to look. just like real life football.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: We don't always talk the trenches injuries on defense and
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: line and stuff, even though it's important, it's baked into
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: the lines.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Chiefs will be starting to undrafted rookie at left tackle today.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I expect a heavy pressure and the Broncos
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: to come with some stunts on that side.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: So something to look out for.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely think that's an interesting point too. And people
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: always talk about like this chiefs D and the capability
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: and that type of thing. So again, again, one thing
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I'll say title, just go back to you. Like I
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: was gonna say again, but I'll talk about it after
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: the roster construction. What, what are you seeing as popular
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: tonight for the build types? Like what, what do you think?
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Is there anything that translates from yesterday? I mentioned earlier,
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: like sometimes when a guy like Dak fails and a
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: guy like Jackson dart goes off, but then like hoop
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: set with the ankle injury and that stuff too, for Nick's,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: who knows if he's going to be running at a bunch,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: but I'll ask you another question after, go ahead. Give
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: me your, your first stuff. I'm thinking of a bunch
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: of different things now.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to be more Chiefs than Broncos,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: and I think 4-2 is probably going to be the
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: most popular. I think 3-3 is going to be relatively
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: popular as well. 5-1 is not as much. I think
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: probably 4 Broncos, 2 Chiefs is more popular than 5-1 Chiefs,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: but I do think it's going to be mainly more
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: so Chiefs builds, and then Like the Pat Bryants, like
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: if people are going to go to value on the
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Broncos side, it really feels like it's Pat Bryant. Otherwise,
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: people are just going to be spending up for the
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: most part.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: So is that how you see it? 3-3, 4-2 Chiefs?
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, early on, I'm not seeing
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: a bunch of I definitely the way the pricing spreads out, too.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, you can fit this guy
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: or this guy or this guy like on similar price ranges.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm using what I'm talking about is like Waddle
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: or Rice or Sutton. And then Worthy's just down in
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: the middle. But you also have like Sutton, who's just
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: a little bit more or you've got Kelsey there. So
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: it's like there's always a guy for every side. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: then we talked about it earlier with like Thornton. OK,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: but do I want him or do I want Pat Bryant? Well,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: you could play them both. And so you see that
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: mixture across my homes and Bo Nix, 200 bucks apart
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: as quarterbacks. You don't always see the Delta be that small.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: So I do think you nailed it with that. I
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: was going to ask you though, if you had the
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: props up for the quarterback rushing tonight, I bet you
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: both are being in check and I might just parlay
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: them both together because I think a, Um, the bone
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: next time I think that like such a crazy weird injury,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: if you remember the game and then the whole next week,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: like it could have been Denver in the Superbowl, you know,
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: it was a possibility at.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Least, I guess.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: But, um, you know, the way new England looked in the,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: in the setup, but anyway, um, he could be fine.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: And the Mahomes one's more scary, but also think about
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: who he is. Patrick Mahomes. Like he's really got, he
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't have much else to prove. I think he's going
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: to want to, if anything, he's going to want to
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: just prove that he's all good. And if this Denver
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: D is coming at you, just like it could be
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: on the other side, these guys are going to want
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: to scramble and they might have to.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: So 16 and a half bow, 14 and a half Mahomes.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: If you think they're relative, yeah. Like, I mean, they
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: should be like Mahomes had a great, like his procedure
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: and his recovery was really sped up and looks good. Like,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: We know Mahomes for scrambling running, being able to rush touchdowns,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: and Bo can do it too. It's just how much
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: are the play callers going to be– I mean, yeah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: even if the play callers don't call it in the
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: game of football, you've got to sometimes adjust. So if
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: you think that's the case, I think that should only
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: make them more appealing at captain for sure.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: And you can bet it. Yeah, 16.5, 14.5.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: 16.5, 14.5 for rushing props.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Coop, you got any bets?
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: You got anything you like over there? Anything you want
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: to talk about with that other site we're calling it now?
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: Maybe we don't even– Yeah, I was going to– These bonuses, uh,
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: before we got to this part of the show, I mean,
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: I was, I was going to refuse to talk about it,
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: but I guess we can get in there.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I do like that.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I do like that. Uh, Bo Nix, though, the over,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I think he'll run a little bit more than that
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: for sure. So what was it? 16 and a half
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I think those are a little bit more than that.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I think like two with that D coming at him, they're,
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: they're always, I mean, one just flip, turn around and
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: then go. And then he gets that sideline run.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Like he can get three of.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Those that he's not even at risk and he's picking
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: up eight to 10 yards. We'll do that twice. And
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: you crushed your 16 and a half. I know like, um,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: rushing problem. Maybe it's longest rush props too. I have
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: to look at those, but yeah, I don't know. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: think it's actually really interesting. Yeah.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Uh, FanDuel, uh, Rasheed Rice, I mean, I really like
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: him on DK, a little less appealing. I mean, he's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: right there with the quarterbacks at 11-4. He's got to
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: do a lot. I mean, on DK, eight to nine catches,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: 100 yards, that's a phenomenal performance, less appealing on FanDuel.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Cortland Sutton's more expensive than Jalen Waddell, 10-2 for Sutton,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: 9-6 for Waddell. Like, man, Cortland Sutton's going to be
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: a tough click. on FanDuel at that price point. Those
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Denver running backs, 88 for Dobbins, 82 for Harvey. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: think I like them more on FanDuel than I do
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: on DK. Uh, going down to the, uh, bottom range,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Pat Bryant is 2,400. Um, he's going to be owned.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: He'll be even more owned on FanDuel because 2,400 is,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, just dirt.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: He's less on FanDuel than DraftKings. And you're like, but
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I have 10 K more. He's less. That's crazy.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Just a crazy price. I mean, a couple of catches,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: like three catches for 40 yards. Like he could be
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: you know, on optimal with that. So it's just an
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: insanely low price tag. He's definitely going to be owned
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, the ownership on that's got to be,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, maybe 40, 30, somewhere 30, 45%.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Let's see anything else. Yeah, not too much else. But yeah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like Rishi Rice, pretty expensive on FanDuel. Sutton, more expensive
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: than Waddle. I'd say it's the big, you know, price
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to tend to for, Sutton is, is definitely a very
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: tough clip.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's, it does work from both ways
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: in my mind, because it's like the, that's, that's when
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: it's kind of fun on it. Well, twofold. I'm saying
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: like the way I handle it's an ugly click for sure.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: You gotta, I always called it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Paying up way down. Yeah.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: But it's like, if you did that, you could then
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: maybe get away with Bryant or you could do it
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: and not play Bryant and go with the more balanced route.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: So it's like a way to think about it where
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: it's different. I was just trying to find it myself now, Tyler,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: because now I'm thinking about those props and even betting
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: those rushing ones. But what is the swap tonight on Waddle? Okay,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: I see Waddle 57.5, Sutton 40.5.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: It's not too bad.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's week one. This is the first time
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: we're going to see. It's a lot of guesswork, even
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: for books as well, about how the split's going to be,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: what's the chief– I mean, I always like Spaggs on defense.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Highly respect. We're talking good coaches.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I think he's a phenomenal defensive coordinator, and he's going to, yeah,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: maybe take Waddell out and make Sutton beat him. He's
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: probably going to bring pressure and see how Bo Nix's
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: knee is.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, very interesting slate. The Pat Bryant.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Decision on FanDuel I think is the big one. But
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks always are higher on at the MVP spot on
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: FanDuel that I do think if you want Waddell– Maybe
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: not Kenneth to an extent, but Dobbins, Rasheed Rice even,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: Xavier Worthy, Kelsey. I'm more likely, I think, to get
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: different MVP on FanDuel because I think the ownership gap
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: is going to be wider and because it's harder for
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: me to find pivots in that Bryant range.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Thornton, who I like, and.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Johnson, these guys are still a decent bit higher than
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Pat Bryant today. He very well could score five and
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: be optimal at that price. I think getting different MVP
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: when playing Pat Bryant, something I'd look to do.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: Final score you're thinking for the game title? If you
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: had to peg one out here and just think it's
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: going to be one team winning versus the other, are
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: you going to pick?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: What do you got? 2017 Broncos.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: We used to do this in the past. We'll be
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: able to chat to it. Maybe I'll remember on Thursday
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: if the chat puts it in. We don't have a
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: bunch of time here today trying to keep these things
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: up to date for you guys and ready to roll. Hoop,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: if you had to put a final score on this game,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: what are you thinking?
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's a tough one. Man, you guys know I
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: love my Chiefs, but I... think it's going to be
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: broncos i'll go i think we're gonna see some points
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: i'll go 31.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: To 25 25 where are you getting that i don't
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: know i said 25 i just started thinking you better bet.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: That over boy that's a that's a big over that.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: You got there i think we score here i think
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: there's some scoring but maybe not 25 maybe i'll say
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: uh i don't know 28 24 27 28 31.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: 28 I think we see a little bit, I think
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: we see a little bit of action, but I think it's,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be 24, 10 chiefs.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to do.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: 24, 10, 24, 10.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe that, Hey, maybe that's a sign that I'm going
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: to win tonight.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Hoop 24, 10 Hoopster. So yeah, I like that. I
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: think this is good. I don't have too much else
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: to add title. Do you have any other final thoughts
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: for the slate you want to bring up?
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, still a 500 K to first today.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: Like prizes are still great. They always are for showdowns,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: but they usually are better right now than they will
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: be week nine on a Monday. I think it's a
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: solid slate and anytime football is on the screen, it's good.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: So like you said, even if it's been the worst
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: week one or the best week one, It's not over yet.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: So good luck.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: That's the bottom line. It's been a bad week one
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: for me so far. I can tell you that much,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: but it's at the end of the day, it is only, it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Might not be a bad week one after tonight though.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Turn it all around, turn it all around in one,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: one little swing of the bat.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try and win the 490 and get
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: it right back immediately for that FFWC and rock that ticket.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Join my boy Axtron bringing the good mojo all week,
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: pumping in those credits to us and taking care of us. He's,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: you know, he's in there. Yobi Trice with the tickets. Sorry,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Axtron with the tickets. Yobi Trice with the credits and
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: then getting his own tickets. So I'm looking to join you, Yobi.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: So we appreciate you. Thank you, guys. Hoop, any final
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: thoughts from you before we get out of here?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: No, let's finish strong. Good game overall. I mean, Broncos, Chiefs,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Monday night. It's going to be fun. Looking forward to it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I wish they'd go back. I did like when they
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: had the two games on Monday. That was always fun.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: We'll get some of it.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done that the last couple seasons, though, opening
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: week one.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the first week, we didn't get so far enough.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have liked to see two tonight, but
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: we got one.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: It's all been the first week. I didn't know that.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing the two for sure. It's like an
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: 8 p.m. Eastern start and then like a 10 Eastern start.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: They've done that the last at least couple years, I believe.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I said we'd get it, and I'm on week seven
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: and still see nothing, so I'm getting scared.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Must be reasoning behind it. They've spread out a lot
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: of this, which I do like, like the Wednesdays. Maybe
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: because they did that Wednesday game this week. They didn't
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: do the two. I'm sure it has something to do
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: with that. But, yeah, excited for this one. Broncos, cheers.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: And then we'll be right back to work next week
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: for week two. So let's finish strong.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I actually don't think there's any. What did you say, sir?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's one Monday game.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: They did it a couple times the last couple of years.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just scrolled through all of it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's something with ratings that probably didn't work
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: out all that well because it did overlap a little bit. Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: It was kind of goofy.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: It was good for DFS with the late swap and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: live projection and all that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I'm not seeing it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I just got another bonus from FanDuel.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, I wonder if I got it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Check it out. See if you guys got it. We're live.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: Who cares?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: But the Wednesday game is what they pushed, like Ross
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: and Nate said. But did you get the extra bonus?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I got a $ 25 extra bonus.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: No, I got, yeah, I still have a little more than,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: I had my 2,600 and then 530, so I'm still going.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: This one expires, I don't even know what they're doing, man.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with the expire. I said if it was
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: up to me, that's all I would have done. I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: would have said, listen, we messed up. Here's your week
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: one back. Play week two like it's week one. But
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I got a second bonus that expires 12 hours before
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: the first one. So I'm not sure why the expiries
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: would be different, but I'll have to look in. Also,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: it's the worst expiry shit ever. 178 hours from now.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what mine is. I was just trying to.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I get it, but it's like, why don't you just
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: make it easy on me? And there's a lot of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: technology these days that you could just tell us exactly
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: when the shit expires, not giving me a countdown clock.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: They got the, I was thinking the same thing. What's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: a hundred.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: They got the infrastructure to run the expires in countdown
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: clock right to the seconds instantly for you, but they
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: can't make their site work on week one when NFL
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: is required.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I struggle to find that you're telling me
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: there's not some brainiacs out there like coding this and that,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: that you don't have on standby because you can pay
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: them a hundred thousand dollars to fix that. That's going
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: to save them so much more money than these millions
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: that they have to pay out. Like, you know, you're
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: going to have traffic week one. I, I just cannot
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: fathom that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: It is mind blowing. Like I said, I said it
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: to my money. As I said, it's insanity. So yeah,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: you're not dealing with a sane company and you just
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: said it perfectly. Like have the server, just press the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: button that upgrades at all. I don't care if for
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: the person you need, have them on call waiting. It's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: week one.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I have multiple people on calls.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: People ready to go with our servers upgraded on the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: slate station and the stone tumor, making sure our customers
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: are getting active coverage with no issues and Call Nate.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Nate goes to cloud and then he'll figure it out
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: for him. I mean, someone.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did say that yesterday. Shout out to Ross
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: on that one. It's a deposit button work the entire time.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Not the first time. It's just funny the way this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: stuff goes.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: But anyway.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: The casino and sports book were still working. So that's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: all you need to know.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: Can we use the bonus credits? It just says that.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I know. I was looking.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I would have taken my bonus and just went straight
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: to the fucking casino, but they don't allow it.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: You don't want to the virtual slots. What is it?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: What are you and Nate's like? Huff and puff, baby.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Huff and puff. Huff and puff, man.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Me and Nate would have been huffing and puffing. We
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: would have gotten the– the, the mansion bonus, it would
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: have been, it would have been great.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: That's what you meant. You should sue them because you
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: missed out on that. You would have hit the bonus.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I would have hit the bonus for sure. Like if
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I had access to those funds, I would have hit the,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: what's it called? Nades will fire it off in like
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: two seconds. And the big bonus on there is like
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the millionaire mansion thing where the whole thing is like match.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: It's a, it's a, it's a sight to see. Actually,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. One of our guys hit me
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: up on Twitter yesterday and said, Oh, as I was
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: watching names, we'll appreciate this. As I was watching the show, uh,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Josh Ingram sent me a screenshot. It's filled up the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: screen with mansions for 3k. He goes, I was watching
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you title and a Tambo do the show. He goes,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I hit the, I hit the mansion.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Wow. Good for him.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: Well, a little about GPP takedown watching a show before
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: the actual action.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Locking that lock in the, the dub for the day
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: and move on.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Oh man. That's awesome.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's going to be it, guys. I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: don't got too much else here to add. I feel
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: good about where we're at for tonight. We're going to
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: get all the stuff up on the site. If you
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: guys aren't a member yet, you still have time. We
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: talked about if you want to get the early bird special,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: you cannot get single sport Saber Sim on their own site.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: So you can only get it here with us. The
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: 349 deal includes the entire season plus your ship at
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: games entry. So if you use nothing at all, you'd
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: at least still be in ship at games, be able
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: to play every week. The link will be posted in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: discord tomorrow. And then as for the top, like I remembered,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: it's like S Rauco and like, What was the other name?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: It was, I'm going to read them one more time
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: just because I got it here. I posted it in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: the Discord, but you guys should reach out to us.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: And Skrbetz29, we got jcalhu7 who reached out, but srauko
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: and skrbetz29, you guys are going to have to hit
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: us up because it is important. You do have to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: validate yourself because you have to be an all-access or
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: an NFL-only member. We're making sure everybody gets taken care of.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: I would assume you are. but just want to make
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: sure you guys hit us up so we can get
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: on with the next one and get into week two
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: and then get access to your share ship. We're going
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: to get that group started for this week. So, all right, guys,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: that's going to do it for this one for hoop
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: for title and for myself, toe tagging Tambo. Good luck
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: in your contest tonight. Let's ship it.