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I Thought I Was Going to Die: Eight Extraordinary Extraterrestrial Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for joining me, I truly appreciate it. The
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Speaker 1: title of today's episode is, I Thought I Was Going
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Speaker 1: to Die, Eight Extraordinary Encounters with Extraterrestrials. As you can
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Speaker 1: probably tell by the title, a few of these encounters
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Speaker 1: were quite scary for the witnesses, but actually most weren't.
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Speaker 1: I love the humanoid cases. They're not only fascinating, they
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Speaker 1: have so much to teach us. These cases come from
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Speaker 1: all over the world, reported by all kinds of different people,
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Speaker 1: decade after decade. And I honestly feel like the striking
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Speaker 1: commonalities between these cases remove any possibility of explaining them
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Speaker 1: away as hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions, mental illness, imagination, and all
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Speaker 1: the ridiculous debunking explanations that skeptics put forth. So the
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Speaker 1: eight cases I have for you today do come from
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Speaker 1: all over the world, including Belgium, Brazil, Spain, California, Kentucky, Mississippi,
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Speaker 1: New York, and Ohio. I've got some very early cases
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Speaker 1: and some more recent ones, all different types of humanoids.
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Speaker 1: And I think you'll find these cases interesting. I certainly
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Speaker 1: hope so. Let's get to it. First case I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about I call My Mysterious Friend. This one
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Speaker 1: occurred way back in 1945 in Santanicia, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
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Speaker 1: This is a lovely case involving a single witness who
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Speaker 1: had a face-to-face encounter and a very long conversation with
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Speaker 1: what appears to be an extraterrestrial. There's a lot of
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Speaker 1: information to this one. This case was originally published in
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Speaker 1: Irene Granci's book UFOs and Abductions in Brazil, who, in 1974,
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Speaker 1: received a first-hand letter from the primary witness, known as
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Speaker 1: Lucy Gallucci. This encounter has since received some moderate publicity
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Speaker 1: in other books and websites. This case occurred way back
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Speaker 1: in 1945. At the time, Lucy was a university student
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Speaker 1: in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and she spent her holidays
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Speaker 1: in the small and isolated town of Santa Nicia, where
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Speaker 1: she had relatives. There had recently been a hydroelectric dam
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Speaker 1: constructed there, and Lucy often enjoyed sitting on the banks
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Speaker 1: of the lakes created by this dam, where she would
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Speaker 1: go and read books or just relax. It was during
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Speaker 1: one of her reading sessions at this location that she
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Speaker 1: had an encounter with an apparent extraterrestrial. I'll just let
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Speaker 1: Lucy describe what happened. She says, One afternoon, calmly absorbed
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Speaker 1: in my reading, I suddenly felt a presence there and
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Speaker 1: found a man standing in front of me, looking down
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Speaker 1: at me with a smile and tranquilizing air. He was
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Speaker 1: of rare and outstanding beauty and seemed to radiate a brightness,
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Speaker 1: an aura of peace. He looked like an ordinary person,
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Speaker 1: but in many ways he was different. His clothes were
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Speaker 1: very simple, white, close-fitting, and attached to his shoes. His
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Speaker 1: forehead was very wide, but not because of baldness. His
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Speaker 1: hair was sparse, white rather than blonde, and smooth. I
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Speaker 1: cannot place his age, though he looked young. His ears
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Speaker 1: were slightly pointed and lobeless. His nose was very narrow
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Speaker 1: and his nostrils pointed upward. It was only his eyes
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Speaker 1: that impressed me. They were of indefinite color, somewhere between
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Speaker 1: yellow and chestnut brown, and seemed to reflect the green
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Speaker 1: of the vegetation surrounding us. He looked as if he
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Speaker 1: had no need to shave, nor did he have eyebrows.
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Speaker 1: I believe he had no lashes either. He was of
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Speaker 1: a thin, delicate build. His voice, though not deep, did
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Speaker 1: not sound feminine. My conclusion that he was a man
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Speaker 1: came rather through intuition than anything else. So at this point,
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Speaker 1: Lucy had no theories as to who this man was
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Speaker 1: or where he came from. But she does say that
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Speaker 1: his appearance and manner had captured her full attention, and
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Speaker 1: she was very curious about him. As she says, and
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Speaker 1: it charmed me. He had an indefinable accent, not foreign,
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Speaker 1: but he did not speak like the majority of people do.
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Speaker 1: I understood what he was saying more through his expression
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Speaker 1: than through the words he spoke. So maybe she's talking
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Speaker 1: about telepathy here. Lucy says that the man did not
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Speaker 1: ask any questions at first. In fact, she found herself
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Speaker 1: telling the man all about her life, what she did,
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Speaker 1: how she lived, her plans for the future, and all
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Speaker 1: about life in general. And as she talked, the man
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Speaker 1: began to gently interrupt and advise her about how to
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Speaker 1: do things differently and better. Lucy found herself agreeing with
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Speaker 1: his suggestions, and it was then that she began to
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Speaker 1: ask questions of him. As Lucy says, I asked him
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Speaker 1: where he was from and whether he lived nearby. He
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Speaker 1: replied that all of us belonged to the place where
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Speaker 1: we were that the concept of nearness or farness did
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Speaker 1: not depend on distance, but on the speed with which
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Speaker 1: we were able to move. So I was left to
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Speaker 1: wonder where he came from. So although the man did
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Speaker 1: kind of avoid the question of his origins, he and
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Speaker 1: Lucy began to talk about how humans originated on Earth.
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Speaker 1: Lucy explained that some people on Earth believed that humanity
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Speaker 1: began with creationism and Adam and Eve. while those who
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Speaker 1: were more intellectually advanced subscribed to the theory of evolution
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Speaker 1: as put forth by Darwinian theory. But the man then
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Speaker 1: explained that neither of these ideas were exactly correct. As
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Speaker 1: Lucy says, I discovered that my mysterious new friend seemed
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Speaker 1: to have a deep knowledge of this subject and was
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Speaker 1: able to demolish all of the theories related to it.
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Speaker 1: He spoke to me of the grandeur of the universe,
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Speaker 1: and of the possibility of the existence of life similar
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Speaker 1: to our own on many other planets. In some of these,
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Speaker 1: the stage of advancement was very backward as compared to ours,
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Speaker 1: but in others, they were thousands of centuries ahead of us.
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Speaker 1: In principle, Darwin's theory is wrong. On many planets, this
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Speaker 1: is how life actually started, but in others, life was
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Speaker 1: or could have been planted, such as on planet Earth,
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Speaker 1: which possessed exceptionally good conditions of climate, air, and light.
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Speaker 1: So the man elaborated on this and said that on
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Speaker 1: some of these planets, as technology advanced to abolish illness
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Speaker 1: and disease, overpopulation became an issue, and that the people
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Speaker 1: of these worlds developed the technological ability to travel to
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Speaker 1: other planets and were able to transfer some of their
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Speaker 1: populations safely and quickly to these other planets. He told
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Speaker 1: Lucy that Earth was in fact one of these planets,
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Speaker 1: and he said that the origins of humanity actually came
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Speaker 1: from three different planets, and each of the three groups
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Speaker 1: were placed on separate continents. Although the man did not
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Speaker 1: specifically say this, Lucy speculated that he meant Asians, Caucasians,
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Speaker 1: and Africans. But per Lucy's visitor, these people were still
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Speaker 1: having interactions with the people of their own planet at
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Speaker 1: the time that they were placed on Earth. The man
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Speaker 1: said that as these three peoples expanded and explored, other
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Speaker 1: ethnicities came into being. He told her that as the
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Speaker 1: centuries marched by, some of the people progressed in their
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Speaker 1: culture and science, while others devolved into brutality. And dealing
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Speaker 1: with floods, earthquakes, and other cataclysmic events led to the
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Speaker 1: formation of more separate groups. And as Lucy says, They
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Speaker 1: built monuments and high walls, shielding them from the others.
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Speaker 1: And whilst a few lived in the lap of luxury,
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Speaker 1: forming clans and inventing gods, others lived in misery. This
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Speaker 1: they did so as to master the ignorant. Some forsook
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Speaker 1: their birthplace and started settling in far-off places where they
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Speaker 1: unfailingly changed their way of life and ended up by
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Speaker 1: forgetting their former way of life and being forgotten. One
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Speaker 1: of the groups, the largest of all, the most powerful,
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Speaker 1: finally revolted against their planet of origin. They felt they
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Speaker 1: were being handicapped and wished no longer to stay under
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Speaker 1: the guardianship of their protectors. They became bellicose and aggressive.
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Speaker 1: breaking the tradition of peace of their home planet. So
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Speaker 1: it was these actions, according to this ET, this alleged ET,
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Speaker 1: that caused the home worlds to withdraw their support and
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Speaker 1: to leave the population of Earth to their own devices.
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Speaker 1: The ETs continued to monitor the population of Earth, but
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Speaker 1: intervened only in exceptional circumstances. And as Lucy says, so
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Speaker 1: it looked as if the peoples of the Earth were
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Speaker 1: apparently left to their own fate. They forgot their origin.
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Speaker 1: And what was left were some memories and traditions that
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Speaker 1: as time passed were also modified so that nothing was
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Speaker 1: left of the original source. Civilizations came and went. Wars
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Speaker 1: and cataclysms changed the face of the earth and that
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Speaker 1: of mankind. And mankind regressed. So as the strange visitor
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Speaker 1: shared this information, Lucy would periodically interrupt and contradict his
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Speaker 1: story but the man would gently add new information and
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Speaker 1: was able to successfully convince her why he was right
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Speaker 1: and how Darwin's theory failed to account for the origins
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Speaker 1: of humanity. And as Lucy says, I asked him why
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Speaker 1: he did not spread to others his point of view,
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Speaker 1: and he replied that the time for this had not come,
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Speaker 1: and that all those who had attempted to do so
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Speaker 1: had been called mad or visionaries, or liars, but that
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Speaker 1: little by little the peoples of earth were being worked,
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Speaker 1: either telepathically or by direct contact with enlightened persons, so
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Speaker 1: that they would then accept a very difficult truth about
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Speaker 1: their origins, and that man on earth still had a
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Speaker 1: lot of suffering to face before becoming capable of once
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Speaker 1: more sharing that special situation that exists among those who
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Speaker 1: really understand what peace and happiness are. So Lucy and
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Speaker 1: her visitor conversed about these subjects for a few hours
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Speaker 1: when suddenly Lucy noticed that the sky was growing dark
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Speaker 1: and she told the man that she had to return home.
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Speaker 1: She did not think of asking the man his name
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Speaker 1: or asking to meet him again, which was something she
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Speaker 1: would quickly regret. As Lucy says, I wished I would
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Speaker 1: meet him again. I returned to the same spot several
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Speaker 1: times without ever meeting him again, which I was very
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Speaker 1: sorry for as later thousands of questions and doubts propped
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Speaker 1: up in my mind and spirit. Now again, at the
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Speaker 1: time of Lucy's encounter, there was no talk of UFOs
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Speaker 1: and extraterrestrials. Years later, when she contacted Irene Granci, she
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Speaker 1: did not claim that the man was an ET. She
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Speaker 1: said she didn't know, but that researching the subject of ETs,
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Speaker 1: she did find many striking similarities between her experience and
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Speaker 1: those of others who had met ETs. And as Lucy says, now,
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Speaker 1: after so many years have elapsed, I find in the
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Speaker 1: books I read the same subjects we discussed at that meeting.
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Speaker 1: And in some of them, no, in many of them,
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Speaker 1: I find the same concepts that I heard that day
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Speaker 1: with that being. I still hope to learn the truth
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Speaker 1: before the end of my life. The RNA says that
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Speaker 1: Lucy sought no publicity regarding her encounters. In fact, she
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Speaker 1: was a professional, working as the manager of a large
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Speaker 1: business firm. She did join the UFO group, Investigation Center
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Speaker 1: on the Nature of Extraterrestrials, which was founded by Irene Granci,
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Speaker 1: and she continues to maintain her interest in this subject,
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Speaker 1: hoping to find answers about who this man was and
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Speaker 1: the information he shared with her. I found that case
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Speaker 1: to be particularly fascinating. While the witness is still unsure
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Speaker 1: whether this was an extraterrestrial or some other kind of being,
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Speaker 1: given the way this figure was dressed, the information he
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Speaker 1: shared with her, Her description of this ET sounds to
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Speaker 1: me like a tall white, honestly. But it's so fascinating
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Speaker 1: because the information he shared with her is the same
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Speaker 1: sort of things we hear from modern-day contactee cases, which
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Speaker 1: is obviously what encouraged her to come forward and consider
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Speaker 1: the possibility that this was, in fact, an extraterrestrial. Truly
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Speaker 1: an amazing case that deserves to be more well-known. Let's
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Speaker 1: move to the next case. We're going to Belgium now.
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Speaker 1: I call this next case... Eyes Like Little Wells. This
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Speaker 1: occurred in November 1951 in Terrestre, Belgium. This does involve
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Speaker 1: two witnesses and apparent landing traces. It wasn't very thoroughly investigated,
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Speaker 1: though investigators did speak with the witnesses. There's not a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of information to this case, but it's got
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Speaker 1: some super fascinating details to it that I think are important,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to cover it. This case
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Speaker 1: comes from researcher Wim van Utrecht and was first published
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Speaker 1: in the article titled A Spectacular Landing with Ufonauts in
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Speaker 1: the Belgium UFO publication SVLT in the January 1983 issue
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Speaker 1: and was also later published in the Flying Saucer Review,
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Speaker 1: volume 28, number 4, 1983 issue. With one evening around 10.15 p.m.
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Speaker 1: in October or November of 1951, as Mr. H and
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Speaker 1: his wife were driving from Houthost in Belgium to their
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Speaker 1: home in nearby Terrestre. This is a drive of only
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Speaker 1: about five minutes. The road was a gravel road. They
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Speaker 1: had just arrived in Terrestre when they saw a fiery
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Speaker 1: red sphere flying towards them from the south. It came
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Speaker 1: so close to them that for a moment they thought
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Speaker 1: it might land right on top of them. Instead, after
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Speaker 1: reaching a height of about 65 feet above them, four
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Speaker 1: landing legs emerged from beneath the craft, which then veered
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Speaker 1: and landed directly on the center of the highway, about
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Speaker 1: 85 feet ahead of them. The craft was a classic
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Speaker 1: flying saucer, with a flat bottom and a dome-shaped top,
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Speaker 1: and even from 85 feet away, they could feel intense
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Speaker 1: heat emanating from it. Moments later, the craft opened up
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Speaker 1: like a scallop shell shining out an intensely bright red light.
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Speaker 1: And immediately, seven beings emerged. Each was only about two
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Speaker 1: and a half feet tall, and these beings also glowed red.
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Speaker 1: And as Mr. H says, In my opinion, they weren't
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Speaker 1: wearing any clothing. It looked rather like a sort of
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Speaker 1: skin drawn over them. They had big heads, and their
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Speaker 1: eyes were like little wells. So this does sound very
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Speaker 1: much like Brace. Mr. H decided to get out of
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Speaker 1: the car and approach for a closer look. His wife protested,
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Speaker 1: but Mr. H insisted. So he exited the car and
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Speaker 1: began to walk towards these beings and this craft. And
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Speaker 1: he says that with each step he took, a six-inch-wide
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Speaker 1: beam of light shot out from the center of the
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Speaker 1: craft and would strike the ground about 30 feet in
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Speaker 1: front of him, as if warning him. Still, he kept
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Speaker 1: moving forward. Mr. H watched as some of the seven
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Speaker 1: little men reached down and ran their fingers over one
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Speaker 1: of the feet of the landing gear as if inspecting them.
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Speaker 1: A few others remained sitting on the rim of the craft,
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Speaker 1: or so it appeared to him. They looked to him
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Speaker 1: as if they were operating the craft. So they observed Mr.
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Speaker 1: H approaching, and one of them made a sign for
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Speaker 1: him to step back. And after about 20 seconds of
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Speaker 1: staying on the ground, the beings quickly returned inside their
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Speaker 1: craft which then apparently closed up as it now rose
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Speaker 1: vertically into the air about 325 feet high and it
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Speaker 1: then shot off at an angle and was gone. Inspecting
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Speaker 1: the ground where the craft had landed, Mr. H says
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Speaker 1: he found four oval-shaped burn marks on the ground, each
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Speaker 1: just under six inches in diameter and forming a perfect
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Speaker 1: square about 4.9 feet wide. So he informed the police
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Speaker 1: the next day and he learned that at the time
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Speaker 1: of his encounter, Numerous people in the area were leaving
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Speaker 1: a movie theater and reported seeing a red glowing fireball-type
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Speaker 1: object moving through the sky. Apparently, they saw it leaving
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Speaker 1: the area. So Mr. H says that his wife was
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Speaker 1: so shaken by the event that she suffered greatly both
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Speaker 1: psychologically and physically. At the time, there was no formal investigation.
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Speaker 1: Researchers learned of the story some 26 years after the incident.
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Speaker 1: and were able to interview the witnesses. What's interesting to
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Speaker 1: me about this case is that the ETs repeatedly warned
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Speaker 1: the witness not to move any closer. He kept doing so,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately they took off, perhaps because this witness insisted
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Speaker 1: on moving closer and closer. Also interesting to me is
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Speaker 1: how the husband found this experience to be very interesting
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Speaker 1: and exciting, and his wife absolutely had the opposite reaction.
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Speaker 1: I see this sort of thing all the time. People
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Speaker 1: can have identical encounters and interpret it in wholly different ways.
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Speaker 1: All right, now let's move to the next case. We're
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Speaker 1: going to Ohio now. I call this one, We Were
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Speaker 1: Hoping It Would Land. This occurred in October 1963 in Millersport, Ohio.
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Speaker 1: I love this case. This case involves an entire family
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Speaker 1: who had a very close-up encounter with a UFO, and
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Speaker 1: they could see occupants looking down at them. It's an
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Speaker 1: amazing case. This next case was investigated by MUFON Ohio
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Speaker 1: State Section Director Richard D. Seyfried, and it was the
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Speaker 1: cover story for the July 1982 issue of the MUFON
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Speaker 1: UFO Journal. It was published in an article titled, Multiple
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Speaker 1: Witness Sighting of a Structured UFO. It did also appear
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Speaker 1: later in the November 2009 issue of the MUFON Ohio Newsletter.
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Speaker 1: The witnesses include several members of the Parkinson family of Millersport, Ohio,
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Speaker 1: including the father, Lloyd H. Parkinson, his wife, Glenna, age 50,
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Speaker 1: and three of their children, including Gary, age 20, Marjorie,
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Speaker 1: age 15, and Jeffrey, age 11. This one evening in
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Speaker 1: October 1963, Lloyd was outside his home in the backyard
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Speaker 1: when he saw what he first assumed was a plane
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Speaker 1: on fire. He called out to the other family members.
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Speaker 1: So Glenna, Gary, Marjorie, and Jeffrey came rushing out just
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Speaker 1: in time to see this craft coming down and hovering
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Speaker 1: about 300 feet away, and they estimate about 20 feet
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Speaker 1: above the ground in a low spot in the field
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Speaker 1: behind their house. Although it was nighttime, this craft was
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Speaker 1: well illuminated by natural ambient light and the lighting from
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Speaker 1: the object itself, not to mention the lights of the
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Speaker 1: town of Millersport in particular the Millersport football field, which
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Speaker 1: was nearby. It was obvious to all five witnesses that
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Speaker 1: they were seeing a structured, classic flying saucer. They estimate
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Speaker 1: it was about 50 feet in diameter. I'll just let
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Speaker 1: Glenna describe it in her own words. As she says...
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Speaker 1: It was like two plates, plates or saucers, together with
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Speaker 1: a cup or large bowl on top. And there was
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Speaker 1: a tall metal antenna. I could tell it was metal.
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Speaker 1: It seemed to shine. In the area where the two
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Speaker 1: plates came together, there were openings, what appeared to be flames,
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Speaker 1: short flames, out of these openings, sort of yellowish red.
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Speaker 1: This area moved. It was moving clockwise very, very slowly.
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Speaker 1: There were windows in the top part where the bowl
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Speaker 1: was turned upside down. There were windows in sets of three,
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Speaker 1: and they were not transparent. They were translucent. Now, Glenna
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Speaker 1: said that the windows, quote, glowed just like a house light,
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Speaker 1: only brighter, really brighter. She also said that the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the craft had at least three large half spheres,
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Speaker 1: which she said was, quote, like the bottom of a ball.
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Speaker 1: All the witnesses heard a soft sound coming from the object,
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Speaker 1: which was described variously by them as, quote, a very
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Speaker 1: low hum, a humming, a whir, and a swish. But
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Speaker 1: most interesting was that they could all see movement of
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Speaker 1: human-looking figures coming from behind the translucent windows. None felt
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Speaker 1: any fear, but were instead elated and excited. As Glenna says,
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Speaker 1: for a few seconds after we first saw it, the
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Speaker 1: form appeared. It looked like a human form. It looked
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Speaker 1: exactly like a human moving. Its arms moved like it
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Speaker 1: was doing something on the counter, or a control, or
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Speaker 1: something in front of it. You could see the arms
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Speaker 1: move out to the side and back. I could not
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Speaker 1: see a face or anything like that. It just appeared
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Speaker 1: to be a human form. Now, her children confirmed these details.
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Speaker 1: As Marjorie says, And as Jeffrey says, There were human-like
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Speaker 1: shadows moving behind the milky clear windows. We were all excited,
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Speaker 1: hoping it would come close or land so we could
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Speaker 1: get a better look at it. Unfortunately, this was not
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Speaker 1: to be. After somewhere between five to ten minutes, the
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Speaker 1: craft suddenly took off at high speed. As Gary says, quote,
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Speaker 1: exceedingly fast. Marjorie said, quote, extremely fast. And as Jeffrey describes, quote,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it just went up and then
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Speaker 1: took off faster than I have ever seen anything move.
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Speaker 1: It just practically disappeared. It moved so fast. The mother, Glenna,
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Speaker 1: confirms this. She says, just like that, she snapped her fingers,
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Speaker 1: it was gone. And in a second, it seemed like,
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Speaker 1: all we could see was a tiny dot in the northeast. Now,
22:48
Speaker 1: researcher Michael Swords calls this one of his favorite cases,
22:53
Speaker 1: particularly because of the drawings, which, as he says, quote,
22:56
Speaker 1: were done separately, and are the same and different at
22:59
Speaker 1: the same time. They have plenty of similarity to convince
23:03
Speaker 1: one of the unity of the experience, and enough difference
23:07
Speaker 1: to convince one that the witnesses were not even subconsciously
23:10
Speaker 1: pushed to say one exact story. What can I tell you?
23:14
Speaker 1: I like it, and would probably put the case in
23:17
Speaker 1: my top 200 encounters used to defend the phenomenon. Interestingly,
23:24
Speaker 1: some of the family members did report later seeing anomalous lights,
23:29
Speaker 1: a few close enough to frighten them quite badly. Such
23:32
Speaker 1: a cool case. No, the witnesses weren't able to converse
23:35
Speaker 1: with the ETs. They didn't get any messages or anything
23:38
Speaker 1: like that. But it's so interesting because it was very
23:41
Speaker 1: thoroughly investigated. They're so clearly sincere. We have quotes from
23:46
Speaker 1: most all of the witnesses. The drawings they provided are
23:50
Speaker 1: so interesting. It's just a fascinating case all around. All right,
23:55
Speaker 1: now let's move to the next case. I warn you,
23:57
Speaker 1: this one's very unusual. I call this one the floating
24:01
Speaker 1: alien head. This occurred in the summer of 1970 in Jackson, Mississippi.
24:07
Speaker 1: It is a single witness case involving a very young child.
24:11
Speaker 1: But this apparent ET imparted a good deal of information
24:16
Speaker 1: that would affect this witness for the rest of his life.
24:19
Speaker 1: This case was reported to the National UFO Reporting Center,
24:22
Speaker 1: New Fork, by the witness, who submitted two separate reports,
24:27
Speaker 1: each providing his first-hand testimony about a very unusual encounter
24:31
Speaker 1: which occurred to him around age five. He is anonymous,
24:35
Speaker 1: so I've given him the pseudonym Larry. It was one
24:38
Speaker 1: evening in the summer of 1970, again in Jackson, Mississippi.
24:42
Speaker 1: Larry was asleep in his family's home, also in the
24:46
Speaker 1: house with him, where his mother, newborn sister, younger brother,
24:51
Speaker 1: and great-grandmother. At some point in the middle of the night,
24:55
Speaker 1: a telepathic voice awakened him, calling him outside. As Larry says,
25:00
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I woke up. It was more like
25:03
Speaker 1: I was summoned to get up. I didn't even think
25:06
Speaker 1: to resist, and I was not scared. I crawled out
25:09
Speaker 1: at the foot of the bed as to not wake
25:12
Speaker 1: my brother, who slept with me. Then I went through
25:14
Speaker 1: the dining room, into the kitchen, and to the back door.
25:18
Speaker 1: I unlocked the latched back door and stepped out onto
25:21
Speaker 1: the concrete steps that led down to the grassy yard.
25:25
Speaker 1: Halfway down, I took a seat. Then, in the middle
25:28
Speaker 1: of the yard, a large head suddenly hovered over the ground,
25:32
Speaker 1: about ten feet off the ground. It glowed in a
25:35
Speaker 1: green light, a softly wavering greenish color. Its face was human-like,
25:41
Speaker 1: but thin and bony-looking. It had a small, thin mouth,
25:45
Speaker 1: no more than a very thin line. Its eyes were
25:47
Speaker 1: all black, and it had no hair. But what made
25:51
Speaker 1: it not human was its giant egg-shaped head. It looked
25:55
Speaker 1: like a human face was stuck at the bottom of
25:57
Speaker 1: an egg. Now, Larry did have the distinct impression that
26:00
Speaker 1: the head was not physically there, but was more like
26:02
Speaker 1: a projected image, or in hindsight, a holograph of some kind,
26:07
Speaker 1: and that the actual being was somewhere else far away.
26:10
Speaker 1: As Larry says, I was not scared. In fact, I
26:14
Speaker 1: felt nothing and thought nothing. I was very calm and
26:17
Speaker 1: very much at ease. There was nothing I could do anyway.
26:21
Speaker 1: So as the head stared down at him, it began
26:24
Speaker 1: to speak to him telepathically, saying things that at the
26:27
Speaker 1: time did not make much sense, but would later hold
26:31
Speaker 1: great meaning. And there were three main messages. The first
26:35
Speaker 1: was about Larry's genetic family lines. As Larry says, The
26:40
Speaker 1: head spoke to me without words or moving its mouth
26:43
Speaker 1: or changing any features at all. What happened next is
26:47
Speaker 1: very difficult to explain because there are apparent and real
26:50
Speaker 1: factors of time. I could completely understand everything that had
26:55
Speaker 1: said to my mind. It said telepathically that they had
26:59
Speaker 1: followed and guided my bloodline since the beginning of time
27:02
Speaker 1: and that even my mother and father, who were not married,
27:05
Speaker 1: had been brought together for bloodline purposes. It showed me
27:09
Speaker 1: a wide river and dense bunches of fruit trees that
27:12
Speaker 1: lined the far bank. And people were in those, a
27:16
Speaker 1: group of naked black people, but I could not see them.
27:20
Speaker 1: I knew they were there eating the fruit. It said
27:23
Speaker 1: I was a descendant from the group of early people
27:25
Speaker 1: and that they, the ETs, had been with them ever since.
27:30
Speaker 1: The head told me that the people there were at
27:32
Speaker 1: the start of my bloodline and that his kind had
27:35
Speaker 1: been watching and guarding my line all the way down
27:39
Speaker 1: to me. It said or expressed, that they were watching
27:43
Speaker 1: over other bloodlines, other families, all over the world. And
27:47
Speaker 1: it said I would meet some of them when the
27:49
Speaker 1: time is right. So that was the first message. And
27:53
Speaker 1: the second message was equally profound and complex, especially for
27:57
Speaker 1: a five-year-old boy. As Larry says, It told me that
28:01
Speaker 1: there is an invisible war going on in humanity, and
28:05
Speaker 1: that power and evil creatures, their enemies, ruled the world.
28:09
Speaker 1: It said that there was a war going on in
28:11
Speaker 1: an unseen place and that humans served both sides, the
28:15
Speaker 1: righteous side and the evil side. It said that the
28:19
Speaker 1: great war will come upon the earth too and that
28:22
Speaker 1: I was to play some part in it. It said
28:24
Speaker 1: that when I am a man, I would meet others
28:27
Speaker 1: like me whose bloodlines they had watched and nurtured. It
28:31
Speaker 1: said that my bloodline and the others were, and I'll
28:34
Speaker 1: say it this way because I now can, were at
28:37
Speaker 1: the front edge of human development. that we are the
28:40
Speaker 1: highest level of human development. It said that there were
28:43
Speaker 1: very few like me, and that they guarded and protected
28:46
Speaker 1: all of us in preparing to battle the evil human
28:49
Speaker 1: agents fighting for their enemy. Now, this apparent ET did
28:52
Speaker 1: not name the enemy, but made it clear that there
28:55
Speaker 1: were good people and bad people on Earth, and that
28:58
Speaker 1: this was essentially a war between these two factions. That
29:02
Speaker 1: was the second message. The third message was very personal,
29:05
Speaker 1: and it had to do with Larry's own pathway in life.
29:09
Speaker 1: As Larry says, it said I will not understand many
29:12
Speaker 1: things until I am much older and that I would
29:15
Speaker 1: be taught what I could handle and be developed over time.
29:18
Speaker 1: The head said that as I got older, I would
29:21
Speaker 1: come to great understandings of which I was not ready
29:24
Speaker 1: for then, but would slowly reveal the truth of reality
29:28
Speaker 1: to me. I was told that a guardian had been
29:30
Speaker 1: assigned to watch and protect me from harm and to
29:33
Speaker 1: make sure I did not use my gift in the
29:36
Speaker 1: wrong way. Larry does say that this encounter changed him
29:39
Speaker 1: in many ways. and that he has experienced profound psychic abilities.
29:44
Speaker 1: As Larry says, I was different after that. My mind
29:48
Speaker 1: began to change and expand until I was able to
29:51
Speaker 1: see reality completely differently than everyone around me. I have
29:56
Speaker 1: much more to express like reverse engineering when I was
29:59
Speaker 1: still a young child, and when I understood the structure
30:02
Speaker 1: of my own consciousness and my practice of mind reading.
30:07
Speaker 1: Please note that I did not speak much at all
30:09
Speaker 1: until I was 12 or 13 years old because I
30:12
Speaker 1: knew nobody could understand me while I understood every thought
30:16
Speaker 1: that others had. I would love to tell someone how
30:19
Speaker 1: I ascended and filled up the entire universe on two
30:22
Speaker 1: occasions and how I am able to see the patterns
30:25
Speaker 1: of overlapping dimensions that make up physical reality. Now, Larry
30:31
Speaker 1: did say that this particular ET visited him several times
30:35
Speaker 1: over a period of two or three nights, and he
30:38
Speaker 1: says that as he grew up, he often felt the
30:40
Speaker 1: presence of these guardian ETs in his life. It has
30:44
Speaker 1: taken him 50 years to report his encounter, and he
30:47
Speaker 1: says that he has only shared it with his mother
30:49
Speaker 1: and two other people. It is true that this witness
30:53
Speaker 1: was a very young child, but I personally think children
30:56
Speaker 1: make great witnesses. Don't think this was a dream. Certainly
31:00
Speaker 1: neither does the witness. It's so interesting to me that
31:05
Speaker 1: the information that this witness received from this apparent ET
31:09
Speaker 1: matches up with other modern day accounts. I was very
31:13
Speaker 1: fascinated by how the information points to contact being a
31:20
Speaker 1: generational thing. We certainly see this in this case. In fact,
31:25
Speaker 1: that was one of the main messages the ETs gave
31:28
Speaker 1: to this person. Also super interesting to me was how
31:31
Speaker 1: this witness describes having very pronounced psychic abilities. That's another
31:38
Speaker 1: very common attribute to these kinds of cases. It's a
31:42
Speaker 1: rare contactee that doesn't experience all kinds of psychic events.
31:47
Speaker 1: Also very interesting was their prediction that we're going to
31:50
Speaker 1: be dealing with some very tough times up ahead. And
31:55
Speaker 1: that is a very consistent message that contactees get. So
31:58
Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack with that case. I found
32:01
Speaker 1: it so interesting. All right, now let's move to the
32:05
Speaker 1: next case, which is a scary case. This one does
32:08
Speaker 1: involve two witnesses. I call this one, I thought I
32:11
Speaker 1: was going to die. There's a direct quote from one
32:15
Speaker 1: of the witnesses. This occurred on November 7, 1975, in
32:18
Speaker 1: the Catskill Forest in New York State. This was investigated
32:24
Speaker 1: by Bud Hopkins. It does appear to involve missing time.
32:27
Speaker 1: It's quite a long encounter, and I think there's a
32:31
Speaker 1: lot more to it that we'll probably never hear about,
32:34
Speaker 1: but it's an interesting encounter in a lot of ways
32:37
Speaker 1: because these are very unusual humanoids, and the whole interaction
32:42
Speaker 1: is quite unusual. Again, this case comes from Bud Hopkins,
32:45
Speaker 1: and it appeared in the July 1979 issue of the
32:48
Speaker 1: MUFON UFO Journal in an article titled, Possible Abduction in
32:53
Speaker 1: New York State. It involves two high schoolers, Vincent L.
32:58
Speaker 1: and John D., who decided to take a weekend camping
33:02
Speaker 1: trip in the Catskill Forest Preserve in New York State.
33:05
Speaker 1: It was November 7, 1975. They arrived, and it turned
33:10
Speaker 1: out to be a rainy night, so they set up
33:12
Speaker 1: their tent under a large, high-roofed picnic shelter. It was
33:16
Speaker 1: around 1 a.m. They were both in their tent when
33:19
Speaker 1: they were simultaneously awakened by noises coming from a nearby
33:22
Speaker 1: garbage can. They noticed what they thought was moonlight shining
33:26
Speaker 1: through the tent, but stepping outside, this mysterious light was gone,
33:31
Speaker 1: as were the sounds coming from the can. So thinking
33:34
Speaker 1: a raccoon must have gotten into the trash, or maybe
33:36
Speaker 1: a bear, they moved this can away from their tent.
33:40
Speaker 1: And this is when they heard a weird, quote, sonar-like
33:43
Speaker 1: sound in the dark sky above them. They wondered if
33:47
Speaker 1: it might be some sort of bird. But then they
33:49
Speaker 1: saw something much stranger. Off in the woods, they saw
33:53
Speaker 1: what they first thought was a, quote, streamlined camper trailer.
33:59
Speaker 1: Both John and Vincent crept closer and were shocked to
34:01
Speaker 1: see that it was definitely not a camper. Its shape
34:05
Speaker 1: was smooth and irregular, and the entire surface seemed to glow.
34:09
Speaker 1: It was clear to them that it was some sort
34:11
Speaker 1: of strange craft, probably a UFO. Frightened, they fled back
34:16
Speaker 1: to the tent and tried to convince each other that
34:18
Speaker 1: it couldn't be a UFO. In fact, John kept repeating,
34:21
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. There's no such thing. Finally, John
34:26
Speaker 1: took a flashlight, went outside, and swung it around to
34:29
Speaker 1: his left and was shocked to see a tall figure
34:32
Speaker 1: standing in the woods. He couldn't see its shape very well,
34:36
Speaker 1: but he did say he saw two large, dark eyes
34:40
Speaker 1: and what looked like dark diagonal marks on its lower face,
34:43
Speaker 1: where the cheek would be. They also appeared to be
34:46
Speaker 1: glowing slightly. Now even more frightened, he checked around them
34:50
Speaker 1: with the flashlight and saw three more identical-looking figures, one
34:54
Speaker 1: of which seemed to be up in a tree or
34:56
Speaker 1: floating near a tree. Now Vincent, of course, saw them too,
35:00
Speaker 1: and they both wondered if these figures might be some
35:03
Speaker 1: kind of apparition or projections. but then one approached them
35:07
Speaker 1: for a distance of only about 15 feet away. At
35:10
Speaker 1: this point, they panicked, and they quickly began to tip
35:13
Speaker 1: over picnic tables and benches to try to build a
35:16
Speaker 1: barrier around their tent. They threw all four of their
35:20
Speaker 1: Dura Flame logs onto the campfire, and these figures proceeded
35:24
Speaker 1: to approach and then back off, moving through the trees
35:27
Speaker 1: and brush with incredible ease. The witnesses said that they
35:31
Speaker 1: could see no arms or legs on these beings, just
35:34
Speaker 1: a kind of simple outline. one did seem to stay
35:37
Speaker 1: back from the others, and John noticed a curious effect.
35:41
Speaker 1: Whenever he shone his flashlight on the more distant figure,
35:44
Speaker 1: the others around them would all become immobilized. And this
35:48
Speaker 1: gave the boys the impression that the distant figure was
35:51
Speaker 1: basically controlling the others. Now, at one point, one of
35:55
Speaker 1: the figures approached them and seemed to be carrying this
35:58
Speaker 1: hovering flat object, somewhat like a wagon or a stretcher
36:02
Speaker 1: with a plexiglass top. about six feet long, two and
36:06
Speaker 1: a half feet wide. So as this activity continued, both
36:11
Speaker 1: boys considered running to their car, which was parked in
36:14
Speaker 1: a cement parking lot about 100 feet away, but were
36:17
Speaker 1: both too afraid to make a run for it. Both
36:20
Speaker 1: instead held up their own weapons, two small axes that
36:24
Speaker 1: they used for cutting firewood, and both were convinced that
36:27
Speaker 1: they were about to be taken. As Vincent said, I
36:32
Speaker 1: really thought I was going to die there, so they
36:35
Speaker 1: were very, very afraid. John grabbed a camera to try
36:39
Speaker 1: and photograph the beings, but Vincent persuaded him to stop
36:43
Speaker 1: as he was afraid the beings might think it was
36:45
Speaker 1: a weapon. At one point, the beings seemed to retreat
36:48
Speaker 1: back into the woods, and the boys took this opportunity
36:51
Speaker 1: to break camp. They threw everything into the tent, tore
36:55
Speaker 1: the tent down, took everything into the car. They then
36:58
Speaker 1: returned to the site to douse the fire, and as
37:01
Speaker 1: they did, these figures began to rush forward towards their campsite.
37:06
Speaker 1: This caused Vincent and John to run as fast as
37:08
Speaker 1: they could to the car. When they got there and
37:10
Speaker 1: tried to start the car, but the car would not
37:12
Speaker 1: start at first. Finally, they got the engine going and
37:16
Speaker 1: drove off as fast as they could. Both were so
37:19
Speaker 1: spooked and petrified that as they were driving, the sight
37:22
Speaker 1: of the glowing reflectors on the road caused them to
37:25
Speaker 1: actually cry out in fear. So they went home. They
37:29
Speaker 1: immediately told their parents. John told his girlfriend, Maria. Vincent
37:34
Speaker 1: told his fiancee, Stella. And all could see that the
37:37
Speaker 1: two boys were still terrified. Following the encounter, there were
37:41
Speaker 1: a few strange after effects. Vincent found that he had
37:45
Speaker 1: a row of diagonal abrasions on his back that he
37:48
Speaker 1: could not account for. John said that he had a
37:50
Speaker 1: painful mark on his navel. And when two other marks
37:54
Speaker 1: appeared nearby, he actually sought medical help. And doctors feared
37:58
Speaker 1: he might have a kidney tumor But after a week,
38:01
Speaker 1: these marks disappeared, and he was fine. There was also
38:04
Speaker 1: a strange psychic aftermath, because two months following the encounter,
38:09
Speaker 1: John began to experience clairvoyant-like episodes. And he gives an example.
38:15
Speaker 1: While shopping one day, he lost his sunglasses, and later
38:18
Speaker 1: he had a vision that a salesman at the store
38:21
Speaker 1: he had visited actually put his sunglasses in a manila
38:24
Speaker 1: envelope on the third shelf behind him. So seeing this,
38:28
Speaker 1: He and his girlfriend Maria returned to the store and
38:32
Speaker 1: asked if anyone had turned in a lost pair of sunglasses.
38:35
Speaker 1: The salesman denied it, so John told him to look
38:38
Speaker 1: in the envelope on the third shelf behind him. And
38:41
Speaker 1: of course, the glasses were there. This was one of
38:44
Speaker 1: several similar episodes, which slowly became less frequent and finally stopped.
38:49
Speaker 1: After interviewing both witnesses, Bud Hopkins writes, I was able
38:54
Speaker 1: to interview Vincent and John separately. The separate versions dovetailed perfectly.
39:00
Speaker 1: Their truthfulness is beyond question. I believe that they probably
39:04
Speaker 1: were abducted. The marks on their bodies, of course, are
39:07
Speaker 1: a strong indication of a possible abduction. Both men entertained
39:12
Speaker 1: the idea that they were taken because of the physical
39:14
Speaker 1: traces as well as subsequent dreams and flashbacks. Vincent has
39:19
Speaker 1: a recurring image of himself lying on some sort of
39:23
Speaker 1: table and looking over his right shoulder through a round window.
39:26
Speaker 1: to what appears to be the earth below. John, while
39:30
Speaker 1: in his hospital bed, experienced unusual fear when a nurse
39:34
Speaker 1: bent down over him for a routine check. On another occasion,
39:39
Speaker 1: he had a flashback of being picked up, a rare
39:41
Speaker 1: experience he points out, for a tall man who weighs
39:44
Speaker 1: 245 pounds. Now incidentally, Their case occurred only two days
39:50
Speaker 1: after the famous Travis Walton incident outside Snowflake, Arizona. I
39:56
Speaker 1: think the most prominent feature of that case is that
39:58
Speaker 1: these two witnesses reacted with such fear. Though, as you
40:01
Speaker 1: can see, they weren't apparently harmed in any permanent way.
40:05
Speaker 1: In fact, one of the witnesses describes having all these
40:08
Speaker 1: psychic abilities appear following his encounter. Again, this is something
40:12
Speaker 1: we see all the time. And I don't see how
40:15
Speaker 1: anyone could say that that would be a negative thing.
40:18
Speaker 1: But again, I'm just reporting these cases factually, objectively, and
40:22
Speaker 1: allowing all of you to make up your own minds
40:24
Speaker 1: about what's going on here. But it's a good case,
40:27
Speaker 1: pretty thoroughly investigated, physiological effects, and very interesting. All right,
40:33
Speaker 1: now let's move to the next case, which was also
40:35
Speaker 1: pretty scary for the witnesses. Two witnesses, actually. I call
40:39
Speaker 1: this one, We Were Utterly Terrified. This occurred in 1980
40:43
Speaker 1: on the road in Nava de Abajo, Spain. This is
40:50
Speaker 1: your typical kind of encounter on a rural highway late
40:55
Speaker 1: at night. Quite a few cases that match that description.
41:00
Speaker 1: And a very unusual humanoid as well. So let's just
41:03
Speaker 1: get to this case. This case first appeared in the
41:06
Speaker 1: Spanish magazine Hola, issue number 1891, dated November 22, 1980.
41:12
Speaker 1: but was later published in various magazines and books, most
41:16
Speaker 1: notably in the Volume 27, Number 2 issue of the
41:19
Speaker 1: Flying Saucer Review in an article by editor Gordon Creighton titled,
41:25
Speaker 1: This case involves two witnesses. One is a lady, we
41:30
Speaker 1: only have her initials A-M-M, so I'll just call her Anna,
41:34
Speaker 1: that is a pseudonym, and her son. The date is approximate,
41:38
Speaker 1: apparently late 1980. but the exact location is known on
41:43
Speaker 1: the CN313 highway about two kilometers outside of Nava de
41:49
Speaker 1: Abajo in Spain. The two witnesses were returning from visiting
41:53
Speaker 1: a friend in Pozo Hondo and were heading south towards
41:57
Speaker 1: Nava de Abajo, which is a drive of less than
41:59
Speaker 1: 10 minutes. Ana's adult son was driving. And as Ana says,
42:04
Speaker 1: it was at about half past three or four o'clock
42:08
Speaker 1: in the morning and my son and I were returning
42:11
Speaker 1: after having taken one of his friends home. When we
42:14
Speaker 1: got to a spot about two kilometers from Nava de Abajo,
42:18
Speaker 1: we saw what at first seemed to be a person
42:21
Speaker 1: standing in the middle of the road. We had just
42:23
Speaker 1: come out of a dip in the road, and there
42:25
Speaker 1: was this person, stationary at first. The first thought I
42:29
Speaker 1: had was that there had been an accident. I remarked
42:33
Speaker 1: to my son that it was very unwise to stand
42:35
Speaker 1: there like that in the middle of the road where
42:37
Speaker 1: a car could hit him. As we got closer and
42:40
Speaker 1: closer to him, the man did not move. So my
42:43
Speaker 1: son flashed the headlights to warn him in case he
42:46
Speaker 1: had not seen us coming. So as their car approached closer,
42:51
Speaker 1: the man still remained still. And when Anna and her
42:54
Speaker 1: son got close enough to see the man clearly, they
42:57
Speaker 1: were shocked to see that this figure did not appear
43:00
Speaker 1: to be human. As Anna says, I was terrified. His
43:04
Speaker 1: appearance had already struck me as strange. Indeed, They said
43:08
Speaker 1: this figure appeared to be tall, just under 6 feet
43:10
Speaker 1: or about 1.8 meters, He was strangely dressed and had
43:37
Speaker 1: an even stranger appearance. As Anna says, he was enveloped
43:41
Speaker 1: in something like an oval, beige-colored suit covering the whole body,
43:45
Speaker 1: including the head. I don't know if he had feet
43:48
Speaker 1: or whether they were enveloped in it. As for his head,
43:52
Speaker 1: it was shapeless, without eyes or mouth or anything. He
43:56
Speaker 1: was horrible, and I was seized by an immense panic. Now,
44:00
Speaker 1: at this point, Anna's son had to swerve to avoid
44:03
Speaker 1: hitting this strange figure, And only then did the figure
44:06
Speaker 1: make any movement. And even the movements were abnormal. As
44:11
Speaker 1: Anna says, As we came up to him, we had
44:14
Speaker 1: to swerve sharply to avoid hitting him. And he did move.
44:18
Speaker 1: He moved, as it were, about three paces or so back,
44:21
Speaker 1: in a strange fashion, as though without bending his legs.
44:25
Speaker 1: He gave the impression that his legs were rigid, or
44:28
Speaker 1: as though he had no knees, or no legs, or
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Speaker 1: as though each leg ended at the ankle. It put
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Speaker 1: me in mind momentarily of those mechanical dolls. He had
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Speaker 1: no left arm and no hands. My son said he
44:41
Speaker 1: must have been a madman or a leper, covering himself
44:45
Speaker 1: up so as not to be recognized. After he had
44:48
Speaker 1: moved back three paces or so, just as we were
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Speaker 1: about to hit him and so had to swerve, he
44:53
Speaker 1: was just standing there motionless. He was terrifying. That shapeless
44:58
Speaker 1: head and nothing else. No eyes or mouth or anything.
45:02
Speaker 1: I don't like even having to recall it. Just as
45:04
Speaker 1: he moved back, my son stepped on the accelerator and
45:08
Speaker 1: neither of us said a word till we got back
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Speaker 1: to Albacete. Once we were home, we told my husband
45:14
Speaker 1: and only then were we able to calm down. Now,
45:17
Speaker 1: Anna's son was very reluctant to be interviewed and said only,
45:20
Speaker 1: and I quote, we were too scared to even look back.
45:24
Speaker 1: We were utterly terrified and our only thought was to
45:27
Speaker 1: get home as soon as possible. All I can tell
45:30
Speaker 1: you is that what I saw was horrible. Now, when
45:33
Speaker 1: asked if he thought they had seen an extraterrestrial from
45:35
Speaker 1: a UFO, Anna's son replied, I don't know what UFOs are.
45:40
Speaker 1: I know nothing whatever of such matters. I don't even
45:43
Speaker 1: have any idea about whether extraterrestrials exist. And he made
45:47
Speaker 1: it very clear that he wanted nothing more to do
45:50
Speaker 1: with the matter and preferred not to discuss it. Now,
45:53
Speaker 1: unknown to Anna and her son, there had been a
45:56
Speaker 1: flood of UFO reports in this area right before their encounter.
46:00
Speaker 1: In fact, officers in two separate police cars report seeing UFOs.
46:06
Speaker 1: And one week later, there were more sightings in this area,
46:09
Speaker 1: including from a couple who saw two circular objects, which
46:13
Speaker 1: they said were about 12 to 13 feet wide. These
46:16
Speaker 1: were also witnessed by another man, Antonio M. Sanchez, who
46:21
Speaker 1: said he saw these two disks first early in the
46:23
Speaker 1: evening and then later again, at which point they sent
46:26
Speaker 1: down brilliant beams of white light and came in for
46:29
Speaker 1: an apparent landing. It was one hour later that police
46:32
Speaker 1: constable Gustavo Martinez Lopez said that he saw a glowing
46:37
Speaker 1: luminous object at Nava de Abajo. It was just a
46:41
Speaker 1: few hours after these sightings that Anna and her son
46:44
Speaker 1: had their frightening encounter with the faceless being. Certainly can't
46:48
Speaker 1: blame the two witnesses for being frightened in that case.
46:51
Speaker 1: They saw something that was completely out of their world view.
46:55
Speaker 1: What's really interesting about that case is there's terrific corroboration
46:59
Speaker 1: with so many sightings going on at that time, which also,
47:05
Speaker 1: I think, points towards this figure very likely being extraterrestrial
47:09
Speaker 1: in nature. Such an unusual humanoid. But there are other
47:12
Speaker 1: reports of people who see figures and don't see any
47:16
Speaker 1: face on it. I don't know. It's a very unusual encounter. Clearly,
47:20
Speaker 1: the witnesses are very sincere. Can't blame the sun for
47:23
Speaker 1: not wanting to talk about it and just forget about it.
47:26
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that they both came forward. It was
47:29
Speaker 1: a pretty thoroughly investigated case and definitely a good addition
47:35
Speaker 1: to the catalog of humanoid encounters. All right, now let's
47:39
Speaker 1: move to the next case. This one occurred in California.
47:42
Speaker 1: This is a very unusual case. I call this one
47:46
Speaker 1: a power from God. This occurred on March 12, 1982
47:49
Speaker 1: in Glendora, California. I know this area quite well, the
47:54
Speaker 1: exact spot, in fact, where it occurred. I've been there.
47:58
Speaker 1: This is a multiple witness case involving a mother and
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Speaker 1: her two young children. All three had this encounter. Some
48:06
Speaker 1: remember different parts of it. So it appears to be
48:10
Speaker 1: a missing time encounter, but super fascinating in the unusual
48:14
Speaker 1: aspects to it, as we shall see. This very unusual
48:17
Speaker 1: case was researched by prolific researcher Ann Druffle and was
48:21
Speaker 1: published in a two-part article titled, Another Unidentified Occurrence, in
48:26
Speaker 1: the May and June 1982 issues of the MUFON UFO Journal.
48:31
Speaker 1: As Ann Druffle writes, Prior to 15 years ago, psychic
48:35
Speaker 1: elements in UFO cases were carefully deleted from finished reports,
48:41
Speaker 1: for it was fears that otherwise acceptable cases would not
48:44
Speaker 1: be taken seriously by scientists and other researchers. The case
48:48
Speaker 1: reported below, because of the mystical elements within it, might
48:53
Speaker 1: stretch the credulity of even the most open-minded researchers. So
48:58
Speaker 1: this case again involves three witnesses, Mrs. W.R., I'll just
49:02
Speaker 1: call her Wanda, and her two children, Louisa, age 6,
49:06
Speaker 1: and Tommy, age 4. It was early in the evening
49:10
Speaker 1: of March 12, 1982, as the three witnesses drove eastbound
49:14
Speaker 1: on the 210 freeway in Glendora, California. They had just
49:19
Speaker 1: passed the Grand Avenue exit when suddenly six-year-old Louisa called
49:24
Speaker 1: the other's attention to a strange glowing red rectangle very
49:29
Speaker 1: low in the sky. It appeared to be larger than
49:32
Speaker 1: the apparent size of the full moon if you count
49:34
Speaker 1: its reflection. Very bright and had a dark red cross
49:38
Speaker 1: in the center. As they drove down the freeway, they
49:41
Speaker 1: realized that the object was close enough that they could
49:44
Speaker 1: sense a weird, low-frequency hum coming from the object. Wanda
49:49
Speaker 1: said she felt it more than she heard it, and
49:51
Speaker 1: it also affected her in another way, making her feel
49:54
Speaker 1: weak and dizzy, so much so that she struggled to
49:58
Speaker 1: keep her car in the lane. Later, she learned that
50:01
Speaker 1: her daughter, six-year-old Luisa... reported feeling these same strange effects.
50:06
Speaker 1: So as they drove forward along the freeway, they came
50:09
Speaker 1: to the Sunflower Avenue exit, and this object now appeared
50:13
Speaker 1: twice as large, and almost directly in front of their car.
50:16
Speaker 1: Both children stared at the object with a lot of excitement. Wanda, however,
50:20
Speaker 1: felt some fear, as it was clear to her that
50:23
Speaker 1: this object was not normal, and she wondered if it
50:25
Speaker 1: might be dangerous. She took her eyes off the object
50:29
Speaker 1: as she maneuvered the car, and when she looked again,
50:31
Speaker 1: it had disappeared. Her children, Luisa and Tommy, later told
50:36
Speaker 1: her that they had seen the object dart very quickly
50:39
Speaker 1: away behind a cloud. Following this, Wanda glanced at the
50:43
Speaker 1: back seat and she saw that her son Tommy, who
50:46
Speaker 1: seconds earlier had been talking excitedly, but he was now
50:50
Speaker 1: fast asleep. This really surprised Wanda. She immediately woke him
50:54
Speaker 1: up and they continued their drive. This strange feeling of
50:57
Speaker 1: buzzing and weakness was now completely gone. They arrived at
51:01
Speaker 1: their destination, a restaurant in San Dimas, and Wanda was
51:05
Speaker 1: shocked to see that it was already 7.20 p.m. They
51:09
Speaker 1: had driven this route many times. They left at 6.10 p.m.,
51:13
Speaker 1: and it normally took them about a half an hour,
51:15
Speaker 1: so they were missing an estimated 30 minutes of time.
51:19
Speaker 1: They were met at their destination by Wanda's mother, who
51:22
Speaker 1: could clearly see that the children were excited and Wanda
51:25
Speaker 1: was upset. So her mother urged her to report the encounter,
51:30
Speaker 1: which Wanda did. She was immediately put in touch with
51:33
Speaker 1: Ann Druffle, and this is when further details came out.
51:37
Speaker 1: It turns out that four-year-old Tommy said that he saw
51:40
Speaker 1: a figure that he called, quote, a ghost, which he
51:43
Speaker 1: said came out of the object. He described it as, quote,
51:47
Speaker 1: bright and glowing. He said it looked human, but was, quote, ugly.
51:51
Speaker 1: He said he watched it come out of a window
51:53
Speaker 1: or opening in the object, and it proceeded to float
51:56
Speaker 1: around it and, quote, gathered stars in a bag. He
52:00
Speaker 1: says he also saw four other human-looking figures behind this
52:04
Speaker 1: first one, and he saw what he called, quote, seagulls
52:07
Speaker 1: flying around the object, but admitted that they weren't flapping
52:10
Speaker 1: their wings. Now, Luisa also confirmed the presence of these, quote, birds,
52:15
Speaker 1: and Luisa also reported seeing a human-like figure in this object,
52:20
Speaker 1: which she said was dressed in a, quote, long dress,
52:23
Speaker 1: like a person from the Bible. She said this was
52:26
Speaker 1: a human-looking figure who had long hair. So Tommy amazed
52:30
Speaker 1: his mother Wanda when he told her that, quote, the
52:33
Speaker 1: thing was a power from God. She was shocked to
52:37
Speaker 1: hear these words from her four-year-old son and actually scolded
52:40
Speaker 1: him about it, but Tommy insisted it was true. Wanda
52:44
Speaker 1: told Ann Druffle that her son Tommy did not make
52:47
Speaker 1: up stories, so Ann Druffle reached out to another California-based researcher,
52:52
Speaker 1: and learned from him that there were other people in
52:54
Speaker 1: this area who reported seeing an unusual, quote, red light
52:58
Speaker 1: in the sky. Wanda also reports some interesting psychic episodes.
53:03
Speaker 1: She said that after she lost a cousin, she was
53:05
Speaker 1: visited by his spirit on three occasions, one of which
53:08
Speaker 1: was witnessed by an outside observer. She reports having many
53:12
Speaker 1: premonitions and psychic impressions. And her children also report psychic events.
53:17
Speaker 1: Six-year-old Louisa says that she recalls a past life as
53:20
Speaker 1: an American Indian. and reportedly was able to recall a
53:23
Speaker 1: few words from the language, and she could perform an
53:26
Speaker 1: unusual dance that she remembered from this. Another weird after
53:30
Speaker 1: effect of the encounter was that Louisa was extremely sleepy
53:34
Speaker 1: for two days afterwards and would take two naps per day,
53:37
Speaker 1: which she had never done before this. The witnesses have
53:40
Speaker 1: not explored the missing time aspect, but do report feeling
53:44
Speaker 1: an eerie feeling when they drive this same route, and
53:47
Speaker 1: four-year-old Tommy will invariably say each time, This was where
53:52
Speaker 1: we saw the red thing. How unusual is that? I
53:55
Speaker 1: suspect that if the mother and the children perhaps went
53:59
Speaker 1: under hypnosis, there might be a lot more to this
54:03
Speaker 1: case than they consciously recall, given that they did have
54:07
Speaker 1: missing time. But it's so interesting to me that the
54:10
Speaker 1: mother did not remember seeing any humanoids, but both children did.
54:15
Speaker 1: And apparently they saw or have different memories, I should say,
54:19
Speaker 1: of what kinds of humanoids these were. A really fascinating case.
54:24
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting to me that this very young
54:27
Speaker 1: son was so articulate and had a very deeply spiritual
54:32
Speaker 1: explanation for this encounter. It's so interesting. All right, now
54:38
Speaker 1: let's move to the last and final case. Another very
54:42
Speaker 1: unusual case. This one wasn't investigated by any professional investigator.
54:46
Speaker 1: This comes from a firsthand report I call this one,
54:51
Speaker 1: They Wanted Her Hair. Spring 1995 is when this occurred
54:56
Speaker 1: in Louisville, Kentucky. It is a single witness case, but
55:00
Speaker 1: it has some interesting physiological effects. The witness feels this
55:04
Speaker 1: was entirely benevolent, and I think you'll find it a
55:08
Speaker 1: very unusual and interesting encounter. This case was not investigated
55:13
Speaker 1: by any researcher, but it was reported firsthand by the
55:16
Speaker 1: witness to MUFON in 2016. just over 20 years after
55:21
Speaker 1: it occurred. The witness is anonymous, so I've given her
55:24
Speaker 1: the pseudonym Belinda. She is of Sioux Indian ancestry, and
55:28
Speaker 1: she says she has long, dark hair, which is pertinent
55:31
Speaker 1: in this case. It was one evening in the spring
55:34
Speaker 1: of 1995. Belinda and her husband were asleep in their
55:38
Speaker 1: bedroom of their home in Louisville, Kentucky, when suddenly she
55:42
Speaker 1: was woken up and she found three greys standing in
55:45
Speaker 1: her room. Each was about 5 feet 10 inches tall.
55:49
Speaker 1: Belinda had no fear. She got out of bed. She
55:52
Speaker 1: saw that her husband was still asleep. So she followed
55:55
Speaker 1: these grays into the living room, where the middle gray
55:59
Speaker 1: ET began to speak to her telepathically in unaccented English.
56:04
Speaker 1: And as Belinda says, the middle alien told me his name.
56:08
Speaker 1: And I wrote it down. He asked me if he
56:10
Speaker 1: could have some of my hair for DNA. I said, OK.
56:15
Speaker 1: I asked him about his outfit. And he said the
56:17
Speaker 1: gray was the outfit. It was skin tight. He had
56:20
Speaker 1: big eyes, a slit for a mouth, and two holes
56:23
Speaker 1: for a nose. So Belinda told him, quote, you are
56:28
Speaker 1: very nice. And the gray replied, not all are nice.
56:33
Speaker 1: Belinda asked, what can we do about it? The gray replied,
56:37
Speaker 1: the government knows already. And as Belinda says, he asked
56:42
Speaker 1: me to lie down so he could take some hair.
56:45
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything after that. So the next day,
56:48
Speaker 1: Belinda looked for the note where she remembered having written
56:51
Speaker 1: down the Grey's name, but she could not find it,
56:54
Speaker 1: nor could she remember his name. But she did find
56:57
Speaker 1: some evidence of her encounter. As Belinda says, The next
57:01
Speaker 1: day I was sitting on my porch, and my neighbor
57:04
Speaker 1: asked me what happened to my hair. I went into
57:06
Speaker 1: the house and saw I was missing a patch of
57:08
Speaker 1: hair in the back of my head as big as
57:10
Speaker 1: a palm. I immediately called my dermatologist and went in,
57:15
Speaker 1: She said the hair had been removed by the roots
57:17
Speaker 1: and gave me lots of tubes of medicine to put
57:20
Speaker 1: on the bare patch of skin. It took about a
57:22
Speaker 1: month for the hair to start growing in. And there
57:25
Speaker 1: were a few other apparent after effects. As Belinda says,
57:29
Speaker 1: I have also suffered seizures since then and the doctors
57:33
Speaker 1: don't know what causes them. I feel fine afterwards with
57:36
Speaker 1: no after effects. I also no longer have hair under
57:39
Speaker 1: my arms or on my arms since then. That was
57:43
Speaker 1: a pretty brief encounter, but certainly interesting. I think it
57:47
Speaker 1: shows that ETs do have an interest in genetics. Interesting
57:51
Speaker 1: that the witness was a Sioux American Indian. Perhaps that
57:56
Speaker 1: played a role here. I'm purely speculating. I don't know.
58:01
Speaker 1: Also interesting is how she had a conversation with these
58:04
Speaker 1: greys and felt that it was a benevolent encounter. So yeah,
58:09
Speaker 1: a fascinating case. So there you go. Eight cases from
58:13
Speaker 1: all over the world involving all different types of humanoids.
58:17
Speaker 1: It's amazing all the different types of humanoids people see,
58:21
Speaker 1: and yet they're all humanoids. And that message we get
58:24
Speaker 1: from so many contactees is that we share a common heritage,
58:28
Speaker 1: a common ancestry. The phrase I hear all the time is,
58:32
Speaker 1: we are you, you are us, we are one. And
58:35
Speaker 1: it certainly looks like it, given that some of these
58:37
Speaker 1: ETs do look exactly like us, and they are all humanoid.
58:42
Speaker 1: There's so much to learn from these cases. I think
58:45
Speaker 1: it's a glaring, how would I put it, absence that
58:52
Speaker 1: our Congress will not talk about humanoid cases. To me,
58:56
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes because this is where we learn the
59:00
Speaker 1: most information. To me, it betrays the fact that they're
59:03
Speaker 1: really not after the truth, or at least not yet
59:07
Speaker 1: because they're looking in the wrong direction. That why I
59:10
Speaker 1: do this research. Not only is it fascinating, I think
59:14
Speaker 1: there's so much to teach us, and I think if
59:17
Speaker 1: everyone on this planet knew the reality of the extraterrestrial
59:21
Speaker 1: presence on our planet, we would be a very different society,
59:26
Speaker 1: and we would all come together. I think it's such
59:30
Speaker 1: an important subject. So there you go. I hope you've
59:33
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. Thank you so much for watching. I
59:36
Speaker 1: truly appreciate it. Until next time, keep asking those hard questions.
59:41
Speaker 1: Keep searching for the truth. Most important of all, keep
59:45
Speaker 1: having fun. I will see you next time, I hope.
59:47
Speaker 1: I'm signing off for now.