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1-26-26 Hour 2 - Going for it on 4th & 1/We've seen this game before/The Broncos NEED a roof · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Obviously, I can't put our team in a bad position
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  Speaker 2: like that. I was trying to throw it away to TV.
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  Speaker 3: He was in the area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pressure. He just got up on me real fast,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just trying to get rid of it,
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, just can't. I can't put the
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  Speaker 2: ball in a position like that. So that was completely
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  Speaker 2: on me.
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  Speaker 4: Did you think it was an appropass? No.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I'd thrown it forwards, and then obviously the
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  Speaker 2: replayer whatever said differently, So probably should have just eaten
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  Speaker 2: the sack.
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  Speaker 5: Lenny is up next. Hi, Lenny.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going guys? Great? Great, Hey, listen, I
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  Speaker 6: just have a question that's I've just been, you know,
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  Speaker 6: dying to ask somebody. But you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: how many people you know are on the Bronco staff
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  Speaker 6: and all. But I'm just scratching my head thinking, who's
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  Speaker 6: the guy responsible for letting the coaches know that we're
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  Speaker 6: expecting a snowstorm to hit this stadium in about forty
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  Speaker 6: five minutes or an hour from now or whatever. But
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  Speaker 6: who's the guy that supposed to be monitoring that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: throughout the game, And why didn't they tell the coach, Hey, listen,
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  Speaker 6: whatever we do in the first half, let's get it done.
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  Speaker 6: Let's take those three points because may not be able
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  Speaker 6: to see the football field, you know, an hour from now.
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  Speaker 5: All right, letting there's the call. Turn on Vix, Mike
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  Speaker 5: there question, Jelly, go ahead, vic.
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  Speaker 4: I asked that question. It's a good question, Lenny. There
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  Speaker 4: are several people providing that information to coach Peyton in
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  Speaker 4: that situation. If you don't think that's the case, you
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  Speaker 4: don't know how these football coaches operate. They can't get
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  Speaker 4: enough information. They have an analytics department feeding them stuff
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  Speaker 4: all week long, all day long. So trust me, their
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  Speaker 4: weather probably better than anything you'll get out there for
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  Speaker 4: sure they knew. Now did they know that it was
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  Speaker 4: coming to that extent? Did anybody really We've been around
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  Speaker 4: Denver long enough for those of us who've grown up,
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  Speaker 4: you know how this works. Yeah, snowflur is expected in
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  Speaker 4: the second half. Did I anticipate that? Hell? Though, did
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  Speaker 4: I expect the visibility to be extinct? I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: couldn't see more than twenty yards in front of you.
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  Speaker 4: It was a weird deal. It was a wall of
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  Speaker 4: no misted. It wasn't that thick snow that you get.
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  Speaker 4: It was that misty snow and it was blown all
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  Speaker 4: over the place. It was weird. So, yeah, they predicted snow.
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  Speaker 4: Of course they knew the forecast was there. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they predicted it like that.
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  Speaker 5: I also just, you know, going back to it again,
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  Speaker 5: the main thing of the day is this call to
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  Speaker 5: go forward on fourth down. I really think that this
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  Speaker 5: was about Sean Payton trying to prove a point that
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  Speaker 5: he's like, not only are we gonna win the game,
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  Speaker 5: We're going to try and crush these guys. And I mean, hindsight,
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  Speaker 5: would he want to win ten to seven?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he would. But there was a lot
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  Speaker 5: that was I think baked into that decision of I'm
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  Speaker 5: going forward, because remember they're at the fourteen moj. If
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  Speaker 5: they pick up three yards and pick up the first down,
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  Speaker 5: they got eleven more to go, Like, that's not even
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  Speaker 5: a guarantee you're scoring a touchdown. I just think it
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  Speaker 5: was like he was gonna drop his coons on the
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  Speaker 5: table and he was gonna flex a little bit and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: watch this, because you're right mo as you mentioned this earlier.
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  Speaker 5: If they punched that into the end zone, it feels
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  Speaker 5: like that game is over at the beat over and
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  Speaker 5: done right before half because of how difficult it was
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  Speaker 5: for anybody to move the football.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we didn't really talk about this yet, and
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  Speaker 7: I guess I just feel like I'm kicking this horse
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  Speaker 7: that's already dead, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Feel I don't feel good about it. You know.
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  Speaker 7: On that opening drive, they're playing such good football, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and then Stidham's arm is on display.
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  Speaker 3: Right, actually it was the second drive.
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  Speaker 7: Excuse me, the second drive Stidham's arm is on display
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  Speaker 7: and he goes over the top the mims. You're going,
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  Speaker 7: oh yeah, and they punch it in, and well I
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  Speaker 7: punch it in. I mean, nice past to Corlan Sutton,
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  Speaker 7: who was left alone at the back of the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: Good stuff.
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  Speaker 7: The offense really didn't do jacks squad from that point on. No,
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  Speaker 7: I mean you're looking at couple of his field goals.
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  Speaker 7: But again, conditions started to get even more rough as
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  Speaker 7: the game went on, But that snow didn't come.
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  Speaker 3: Until the fourth quarter. Late in the third quarter, you
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  Speaker 3: were still in good shape.
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  Speaker 7: It's no excuse for all the three and outs in
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  Speaker 7: the punts you had to make. You know, from that
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  Speaker 7: point on, punt punt punt turned over on down to
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  Speaker 7: punt punt by the way fumble fum fumble punt punts
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  Speaker 7: were and he was he was fantastic. He was the
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the offense bred. The offense didn't do jack squat, So,
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  Speaker 7: I mean outside the scripted plays at the beginning, why
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  Speaker 7: why why couldn't you do anything.
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  Speaker 5: There's there's something that I think has been really exposed
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  Speaker 5: and it was like that kind of during the course
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  Speaker 5: of the season, but especially in the postseason. You know,
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  Speaker 5: before the first game came around and we were still
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  Speaker 5: in offseason mode, free agency draft, that stuff. I was
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  Speaker 5: asking you guys, like, do they need another sort of
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  Speaker 5: veteran trusted wide out, and I think they do. You know,
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  Speaker 5: Cortland Sutton did not have a good last couple of
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  Speaker 5: games here in the postseason. He dropped another ball yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to count the one
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  Speaker 5: that was sort of on his hip when he made
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  Speaker 5: that inbreaking route. It felt like he had a tough
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  Speaker 5: time getting open. I think you need somebody that can
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  Speaker 5: be a go to in a moment like that. I
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  Speaker 5: really do, because I don't think the Patriots have it either.
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  Speaker 5: Digs is okay, but he's a little bit older now.
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  Speaker 5: Even when you played the Bills, the Bills didn't have
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  Speaker 5: a guy like that. When you see, like in that
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  Speaker 5: Seattle game, where'd the ball go in Seattle?
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  Speaker 3: JSN?
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  Speaker 5: Where did the ball go? In Los Angeles? It went
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  Speaker 5: to pooka Poka. Like they had guys that were their
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  Speaker 5: number ones that were wide open, and even when you
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  Speaker 5: had a healthy Knicks, it didn't feel like there was
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  Speaker 5: a go to. The guy who was targeted the most.
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  Speaker 5: I think during the course of the playoffs was what
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  Speaker 5: like heart Well Mims, but Humphrey felt like he was
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  Speaker 5: your wide out that was getting the most targets.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I would say yes and no on this
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  Speaker 4: yes and no. If you gave me a wish list,
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  Speaker 4: like what do you need? I will take a bigger
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  Speaker 4: running back over a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 5: That's fine because they sure needed that too.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking right now. Chase Daniels did a great
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  Speaker 4: job breaking down the turnover that ultimately cost the Broncos
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  Speaker 4: the game, the turnover that gave New England. It's only touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: the turnover that changed everything.
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  Speaker 3: What's he saying?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm watching it. He's diagnosing the play. They changed
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  Speaker 4: the play, They changed the p and they moved Tyler
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  Speaker 4: Bidet to the other side. Beday was trying to escape
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  Speaker 4: for a quick screen, right they called the screen. The
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  Speaker 4: problem with the play is that Bidet could not find
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  Speaker 4: an escape hatch to run a screen. He got caught
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  Speaker 4: in the undercurrent as the Patriots are blitzing. Bdey got
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  Speaker 4: sort of lost. There was a gap for him to
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  Speaker 4: go through and he couldn't get through it. So, as
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  Speaker 4: much as we all want to blame Jared's did him,
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  Speaker 4: I get it, you know, just take the sack man
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  Speaker 4: if but they just if he gets if he gets
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  Speaker 4: through that little gap, there's actually a play to be made.
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  Speaker 4: There's actually an opportunity there.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, you are going to all day, You're gonna go
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  Speaker 3: back and live.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking at it like it's a forensics file.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna vick.
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna give yourself brain damage by the end of
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  Speaker 7: the day if you continue this. I mean, I said
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  Speaker 7: it at the beginning of the program that it's I mean,
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  Speaker 7: every little damn play, every little thing, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But this is the problem.
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  Speaker 4: Though. If he gets through that, but most if he
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  Speaker 4: gets through that, because the Patriots are blitzing, if he
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  Speaker 4: finds that opening, he might go for thirty like do
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  Speaker 4: you know how.
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  Speaker 7: Do you know how many times I know I've got
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  Speaker 7: to learn my own lesson?
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  Speaker 3: Though he goes to my time, he.
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  Speaker 4: Starts running backwards the mom I'm looking at this, what
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  Speaker 4: are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: Here's why you're hyper focused on plays like this and
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  Speaker 5: moj I think this is the reason this wasn't like
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  Speaker 5: the Rams and the Seahawks, where it was just like
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  Speaker 5: every time one of those quarterbacks. And you know what,
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  Speaker 5: I give full credit to Sam Donald because Sam Donald
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  Speaker 5: has been incredible. Okay, I'm I'm finally bought in, Sam,
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  Speaker 5: I trust you now. But every time one of those
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks touch the football players being made every single time,
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  Speaker 5: and in this game, it felt like if you just
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  Speaker 5: made one, if you just had one, that would have
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  Speaker 5: been enough.
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  Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly right, Vic.
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  Speaker 7: I'll give you today to do this, to make yourself hurt,
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  Speaker 7: to feel that pain, and then you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 7: move on.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know how many times I went over.
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  Speaker 7: The third period of last year's game seven against Dallas
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  Speaker 7: in my head?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Do you know how many times I went again, like
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  Speaker 7: if Sammy g Is just wants to the right, it
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  Speaker 7: doesn't go off his skate, And you know these stupid
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  Speaker 7: little things where you're like that one thing, if that
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  Speaker 7: one thing doesn't happen, everything is okay.
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  Speaker 4: Well I just they.
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  Speaker 7: Add up and they add up, and they add up,
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  Speaker 7: and they add up and they add up and they
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  Speaker 7: add up.
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's a case where everybody discusses how
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback can't make a mistake. Well, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: no one else can make a mistake either. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: looking at this play. If the running back hits the
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  Speaker 4: right hole and escapes, not only is it a first down,
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  Speaker 4: it's wide open. When you go back and look at
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  Speaker 4: this it's gonna make you sick to your stomach.
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  Speaker 3: I'm already stick to my stomach.
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  Speaker 4: It's wide open because they got nobody on that side.
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  Speaker 4: Was he trying to chip? I think what he was
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  Speaker 4: trying to do. I think the call there was for
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  Speaker 4: him to chip and then release. Yeah, well the blitz
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  Speaker 4: came so fast there was no time to chip. Throw
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  Speaker 4: chip out the window. Ship says goodbye. Just get to
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  Speaker 4: the open area. And then if you look at that
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  Speaker 4: play where they didn't get the first down, right, they
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  Speaker 4: went for it on fourth and one, Yeah, go look,
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  Speaker 4: go back and look at little Jordan Humphrey on that play.
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  Speaker 5: Was he open?
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  Speaker 4: It was like he was like sort of in no
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  Speaker 4: man's land. It's something happened there as well.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 5: They had they kept calling those bubble screens, and New
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  Speaker 5: England was like they couldn't have been more prepared. There
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  Speaker 5: was two of those bubble screens that were blown up
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  Speaker 5: by Patriots players that were like immediately four yards deep
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  Speaker 5: into your backfield where I think the last one that
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  Speaker 5: they called actually hit the guy like he was already
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  Speaker 5: tackling the receiver before the ball even got to him.
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  Speaker 3: Vic I just watched it.
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  Speaker 7: I just watched it twice in a row. Gets he
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  Speaker 7: gets swept, it's like you're standing in the ocean and
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  Speaker 7: knee deep water or maybe like hip deep water, Brett,
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  Speaker 7: and then you know, you're just kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 7: he kind of splashing about, and then that big wave
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  Speaker 7: comes and knocks you over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so.
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  Speaker 7: But Day literally got forced six yards backwards before. But
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  Speaker 7: I know, but Vic, by the and by the time
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  Speaker 7: you get there though, by the time everything is timing,
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  Speaker 7: by the time he finally gets freed from the defensive
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  Speaker 7: end who's rushing. By the time he finally does, the
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  Speaker 7: play has no chance of happening anyway. It has absolutely
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  Speaker 7: zero home. He's not the biggest guy in the war.
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  Speaker 7: He had and again I look back at ninety seven.
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  Speaker 7: Ninety seven close that gap pretty quickly, Vic, Ye, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know. It's a it's a game of inches, man,
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  Speaker 7: and the play by by that time, by the time
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  Speaker 7: he's even swept up in the wash and he takes
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  Speaker 7: one two steps backwards, the play has no The play
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  Speaker 7: has no hope of happening.
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  Speaker 4: Two plays, guys, two plays, both the same kind of play,
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  Speaker 4: both with Stidham on his heels, back pedaling trying to
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  Speaker 4: find a guy open for a quick pass. Both screenplays
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  Speaker 4: the two most costly plays of the Broncos season, both
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  Speaker 4: of them in succession, one trying to get a first down,
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  Speaker 4: the other one resulting in a turnover that cost you
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  Speaker 4: the game. Both the same kind of play, both audibles,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, both change.
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  Speaker 7: And again, I'm going back at it, Vic, you can
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  Speaker 7: give yourself brain damage. I've frozen it. I know the
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  Speaker 7: gap you're talking about. It's between the guard and the tackle, okay,
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  Speaker 7: and he can slip through there. But he's already his
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  Speaker 7: momentum is already going backwards.
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  Speaker 4: But I also think he was. He was supposed to chip.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, because that's what they do a lot.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe he'spos but then but then, but then it's a
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  Speaker 7: poorly designed play because you've allowed that pass rush to
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  Speaker 7: get upfield. You may be containing it to the outside,
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  Speaker 7: and that's fine moment, you know what you could use
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  Speaker 7: right now, But then there's but then there's no room
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  Speaker 7: for the back to get through.
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  Speaker 3: He knows no room for him.
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  Speaker 4: You could use a big back to just go up
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  Speaker 4: the middle at some point, like they did what hellman, Steve.
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  Speaker 4: It's an average two point one yards of carry, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't do anything. He sometimes, god, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: nothing something.
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  Speaker 7: I look back on it. Man, if he's oh my god,
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  Speaker 7: he's just pushed.
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  Speaker 3: He's pushed.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Pushed.
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  Speaker 7: He's pushed ten yards back. The line of scrimmage was
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  Speaker 7: the thirty three. If I'm looking at him right now,
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  Speaker 7: he gaged with the defensive end and he's at the
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  Speaker 7: twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: Most most If Tyler Biday goes into that gap that
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  Speaker 4: you see, and I see, if he gets loose and
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  Speaker 4: and already Stidham's looking at him, he's looking at him,
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  Speaker 4: and he gets loose, that play goes for thirty yards easy.
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  Speaker 7: If he just goes If he just goes up the middle,
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  Speaker 7: he's got a middle he's got a middle screen right there.
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  Speaker 7: It's just to pop over the top. Because the Broncos
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  Speaker 7: actually did a pretty good job. And the problem here
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  Speaker 7: too is that they tried to force the play to happen.
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  Speaker 7: Stidham ran the same direction as Bulls is forcing his
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  Speaker 7: man upfield like he should. But they all go in
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  Speaker 7: the same they all go in the same direction, and
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  Speaker 7: it collapses immediately. That's a bummer, man. Now that you
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  Speaker 7: brought it up and I'm really looking at it and
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  Speaker 7: stopping it starting it. That's a real bummer because they
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  Speaker 7: it never had a hope of succeeding.
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  Speaker 3: It just didn't.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry, And right now I'm looking at bowls and
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  Speaker 7: today engaged with four guys. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: Tune in tomorrow for your chance to win one of
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  Speaker 5: five pairs of tickets to see the Avs and the
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  Speaker 5: Tuesdays at is a rally house Football Monday, a lot
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  Speaker 5: more to get to and the way the game played
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  Speaker 5: out is actually exactly what we should have been expecting.
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  Speaker 5: I'll explain next.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's got a third and ten.
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  Speaker 4: Patriots rushing four, and he's gone deep and.
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  Speaker 3: He's way.
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  Speaker 4: My goodness, didn't ghost team and he is able to
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  Speaker 4: deliver fifty four yards strike.
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  Speaker 3: What do we said on second in gold?
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  Speaker 4: The hand up third was like, look a touchdown to
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  Speaker 4: Sutton the Broncos strike other second series of the game.
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  Speaker 5: CBS obviously on the call there, yeah, motion.
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  Speaker 7: I'd be lying, I'd be lying if I say, I
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  Speaker 7: thought that was the only points to get in the game.
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  Speaker 7: I thought that I thought they were gonna roll, dude. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: after that, after that initial you know, the punt, a
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  Speaker 7: three and out, fine, and then a three and out,
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  Speaker 7: you force a three and out good, and then you
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  Speaker 7: go over the top and then you find Sutton. I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: they're gonna start rolling here, and they never ever rolled dude.
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  Speaker 3: Ever.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: It's a rally house football Monday rally house shop every
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: team in town. There's something like I mentioned this heading
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: into the game, and it's I was very unsurprised by
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: the way the game went. You know, the weather was
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: certainly a different sort of thing once we get to
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. But that game has been played about
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: eighteen times this year for the Broncos. Are you telling
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: me that it was a little bit of a slog
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: and the game was close late and it came down
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: to can your quarterback make a drive at the end
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: of the game?
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Hm?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Hm, Whenever have I seen that before? Like every week
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: the Broncos have played. And this was the concern I
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: had for not having Knicks in that situation. I'm not
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: even saying that Nicks if he gets the ball back
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: when Stidham did with what three minutes left, I think
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: right that he goes down and has some sort of
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: scoring drive that ties it up or gives him the lead.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he does that or not, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: he did that repeatedly. That situation that you were thrust
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: in at the end of that game was the same
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: thing that we've seen over and over and over again.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: But she didn't have the miracle man under center.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what the Broncos do. And you know
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: what makes me sick to my stomach is I kept
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: hearing all year how the Broncos are lucky, They're lucky,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: they beat a soft schedule, They're lucky. Okay, Well, here
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: comes a team that supposedly was lucky as well, a
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: team that had the same record, a team that disposed
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: of like opponents. Nothing lucky about the way that the
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Broncos played against that team. The Broncos defense. As I
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: told you guys last week, I said, can Drake may
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: handle playing on the road in the playoffs against this defense,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: in this crowd noise? Can he handle that? And the
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: proof is in the pudding, guys. He was. He was
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: completely out of sorts.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the weird thing is when he took shots downfield,
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: they were almost always to certain and certain because he's
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: the best in the world. Was step by step in
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: coverage knocking the ball away.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: It was funny.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: But I'm like, do you guys remember Riley Moss being
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: targeted at all?
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: And that game got targeted on on the flea flicker.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Oh that was him.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And he got targeted on one other play. He
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: actually made a great play, the one that almost led
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to ha funga interception early.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: Oh I hufanga. I know if he just grabbed that man, I.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Know he even he said it. He said, you know
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: when somebody asked him, shit, he made the Pro Bowl,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: he said, I got to catch the ball. Yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: So outside of weather, can I just ask you, what
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: do you think the biggest difference is between what you
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: saw in the Broncos I mean, I get it, you
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: didn't have Nicks, but take this like holistically this season
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: on offense, what do you think is the main difference
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: between the way the Broncos offenses looked and what we
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: witnessed in the NFC Championship game, which is two offenses
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: that are just well amazing machines.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: You've got You've got some big time skill position players
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: on both of those teams. I mean, JSN you talked
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: about right now, Brett, he's as good as it gets
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: to the NFL, the best league.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, precision is Yeah, it's as good as if.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, these are these guys are incredibly elite ilian precision.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I see for Seattle and the Rams, I see quarterbacks
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: putting the ball in tight windows, extremely tight windows. And
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I see receivers that are extremely talented and skilled. And listen,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: not to say that the Broncos don't possess that, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: not to that degree. Also also big one here. Balance
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Both the Rams and they can they can run the ball.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: You can both run the football. They can run the
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: ball very effectively, which allows them to do what they
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: do in the passing game. The Broncos don't have the balance.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: They don't.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just it's a striking contrast between what we
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: witnessed in the AFC and which we witnessed in the NFC.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: And look, ultimately, if you want to take this, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there's plenty of time for this later. Probably
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: want to stick more with the game now, but you're
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: officially shed of the Russell Wilson contract. Now that is
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: no longer a thing. You now have all of the
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: money in your salary cap to play with.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: You can.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: But you really sort of did anyway.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, you were creative with how you how you paid,
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: you know, bonuses and whatnot.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Totally right. If you want to get around it, you
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: can get around it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: But you don't have But there's no getting around anything anymore.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Like you're just free and rid of that. You're gonna
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: have space to make improvements. It's just a matter of
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: where do you think that should be most spent. I'll
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: tell you this much. I think the running back market's
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: gonna be it's gonna have some names this year.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: There's gonna be some guys around the league. I know
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: David Montgomery is probably gonna be one that's on the market.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: And if you want a big, bruising type like he's,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: he's that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Listen, you waited until training camp basically to get a
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: running back, and the guy you chose has been often injured,
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: so it should be no surprise the guy you chose
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: got injured.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: So make a commitment. You can't just go get a
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: running back unless you're gonna commit to the run game.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: So having that prize running back on your roster, great,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you're gonna use them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I still feel I disagree with you though on that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Like I think they did right JKT about he was
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: averaging fifteen to sixteen carries a game running back.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair, that's fair.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: You're you're right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: They used him, but once they lost him the.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: Head, well then he didn't trust anybody like he. They
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: very obviously didn't think that Harvey was ready to be
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: like some sort of guy who takes eighteen carries a game.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, that was the proof's in the putting. They
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: just didn't even attempt.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: To most the more, you know, you looked at that
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: same video that Chase Daniel produced, it's the running backs man.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Running back made a poor decision there. He made a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: poor decision cost his quarterback time.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: He just got he got swept up, he got, he
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: got swept up in the rush.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: And you know what those little plays, those little things
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: as they add up. If you asked me wave my
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: magic wand where's my wand that I have here my
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Harry Potter thing, it's around here somewhere, give me.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: A back, Well, this begs another question.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: I think time out, time out. I don't don't make
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: me laugh on a day like this, your Harry Potter stuff.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: Don't he's looking for that or the tiny hands.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: But it's but it's coming out of out of vic'smouth.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Where's where's my where's my wand can find me? My
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: WA's my Harry Potter Wand.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Laugh?
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: And I shouldn't the the thing that I think I'm
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: done with now because we've done this for two straight
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: years and the Broncos are very clearly contenders in this
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: league to win a Super Bowl. I am pretty much
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: done with Tyler Badetz and little Jordan Humphreys getting snaps
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: in big games like this. I don't think you just
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: that can't happen anymore, Okay, they can't. Two guys that
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: are basically like if they weren't on your roster, they
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: aren't going to be playing for any of the other
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: teams in the playoffs right now. And no disrespect to them,
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: but it's like, you can't have that. There was a
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: moment in that game, and I get it, somebody's gonna
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: tell me that Troy Franklin was hurt. It's one guy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: There was a moment in that game, Jared'stidham completed a pass,
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I think, and let me go back and look, Yes,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: completed a pass. It was a four yard pass and
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: when the guy got up who caught it? I said,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: who is that? It was Elijah Moore, who they called
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: up last second to be on the roster. Like, if
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: you want to be a serious offense, do you think
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: that anybody in Los Angeles or in Seattle had a
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: guy catch a football where they said, I don't know
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: who that is. That can't happen anymore. And I give
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton credit over the last offseason. He recognized our
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: strength heer is defense and I'm gonna make it even stronger.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: And that's why they where they spent the bulk of
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: their their money. But your big acquisitions offensively were JK. Dobbins,
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: as Vic you just mentioned, the guy who's injured all
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: the time ended up being injured. Shouldn't be a surprise.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: The other one you had was Evan Ingram, who we
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: just got through a full season plus two playoff games.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: And I can't tell you like an impactful play that
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: he made all year? You know what I mean? I mean,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: you gotta have you gotta have people that are difference
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: makers on offense next season.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: And I I thought to myself, Brett, well, is that
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: on Is that on us? Is that on me for
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: expecting more out of Evan Ingram than that he could
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: provide or the Broncos would utilizes it?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: On me?
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Man that I was kind of excited about this and
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: he's not your typical tight end and so on and
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: so forth. But then I thought to myself, no, because
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: the Broncos played it up like this was a really
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: big deal, like this guy was going to be a
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: key piece in an offensive cognition, Yeah, and and and
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: so I didn't hype it up. I mean I I
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: came with the expectation that the Broncos came with either
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: they couldn't either they couldn'tor wouldn't utilize what he does
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: and why they went and got him. If he can
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: still do it, then you better find a way to
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: do it next year. If he can still do it,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: I don't know that he can at this point, because
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: you're right, he was unnoticeable for most of the entire season.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: Like Vic, what you said earlier in the show, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: said you you Tapatu Sanford the fourth quarter when the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Broncos got the ball back and you asked him what.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Do you do here?
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Like, what can you do?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I guess my point in that is I understand bad
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: conditions weatherwise and a backup quarterback. But if you have
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: a playmaker, if you have a JSN or if you
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: have a PUKA, you'll always have an option for somebody.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: They'll try and make a play in that scenario. By
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: the way, that's when the offense should have their best advantage.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: When it slick outside and the defense can't get footing,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: you know where you're gonna be the defense doesn't. That
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: is advantage offense all day at least for trying to
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: make small plays. Maybe not the giant one, but it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: just you didn't. You didn't have a weapon you could
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: go to.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I need somebody listening to this radio show to tell me,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: because everybody's gonna play this. What the hell play you
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: would have run in the fourth quarter when the snow
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: was falling, the visibility was almost nil and you could
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: not complete a forward pass. I want you to tell me,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: stop everything, stop driving your car around, just leave the
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: kids alone. Call this show and you tell me what
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: on earth this team should have run? Because I don't
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: think there's a play in the playbook that could have
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: overcome those circumstances. Nothing, zero, zip, nothing. There was nowhere
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going back to the fumble. Vic Are you.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Still looking at that?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: What?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: I want you down that right. I couldn't stop.
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: I looked at it for twenty minutes because I don't know, God,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: there's so many things that went wrong. It felt like
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: the play never had a chance. Yeah, he gets swept
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: up in the rush, but what are they doing. Everybody's
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: running to the same spot as the Patriots have a
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: jail break.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what the Patriots said. I'll tell you
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: what the Patriots they started. You know what they started.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: They started applying pressure to stind them the game.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did, and it changed.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: It changed before that. You guys noticed that after the
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: after the series in which the Broncos scored, what did
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the Patriots do? It was pretty subtle, but it was obvious.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: They started coming after.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Him, Vick.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: They've got four Patriots and two Broncos. One of them
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: is balls, the other one's day. He got three offensive
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: linemens standing at the twenty five doing nothing, and one
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: still engaged at the line of scrimmage. I just I
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: think the whole play was a poorly design. The whole
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: thing was poorly designed. I don't know what they were
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: trying to do.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: What I was gonna say, though, what the Patriots did.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: That's maddening because that is I can't watch it anymore.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: It's maddening.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: I can't watch what the Patriots did in the second
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: half because they did nothing in the first Drake Man
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: had forty one yards passing in the first half. That's
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: when conditions were nice. And I get it. It was cold.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: It was in the twenties in January. I mean, it
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: wasn't like blistering, oh my god, negative ten cold. It
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: was cold, not crazy. What they started doing in the
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: second half. I mean, I saw they ran a designed
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: quarterback boot where they're just like keep it's the first down.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Clinched the game when they ran the boot left side.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: But see, they've got a better running quarterback. It's more
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: a deept to doing that. And I'm not to say
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: that Jared Stanham can't run, because we've seen him run,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: but I mean, May's better. I've got a lot of
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: people I asked, what play do you want them to run?
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: In the fourth quarter with that snow. A lot of
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: people are saying, run the quarterback, Run the quarterback. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: was saying the same thing. Believe it or not, I
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: was yelling the same thing to him. The problem is
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the Patriots weren't biting at that. They just weren't because
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: there was no pass plays available. So how do you
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: open the seas? How do you open the red sea?
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: If there's no snow, there's nothing to open there. A
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: lot of people said, okay, maybe more like run a reverse.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: You crazy. They couldn't get footing to run a reverse.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Anytime they tried to do anything tricky, it resulted in
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: a width in a loss of yards.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: The only thing they could have done there is what
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: New England did, and that is just the hit the
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: wall with your head three or four times. Just run
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: it up the middle and try and get what you
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: can and then after that play action and run your quarterback.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: But I look back on the boot that sealed the game,
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: and I got to give New England credit again when
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: you look at the way the play is designed and executed,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: they did a pretty good job. And the tight end
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: disengages with Jonah Ellis knowing that his quarterback has the
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: speed to turn the corner and Ellis is the only
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: guy who had a shot because they ran the wide
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: receiver in on a slant and brought certain with him. Man,
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: it was really well. It was a well designed play,
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: you know. And you saw ray reaction after it. I
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: hate to give him credit for it, but it was.
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: It was really good.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: He's a good get.
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: And again you're talking about execution of plays like that, right,
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: It's just and the Patriots didn't execute crap all day. Okay,
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: hardly anything all day, but when it mattered the most,
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: they executed that quarterback boot for the first and.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: See all like Man, that just drives me insane.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: This is a great topic and I want to save
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: it for the next segment because this is going to
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: get heated. I guarantee it. It's gonna get heated among
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Bronco fans, among season ticket holders. You're not going to
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: like me. But the text came in, you're a Colorado
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: team that should have had a plan for the elements.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Oh man, do I have a lot to say about that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Get to that in just a second. It's a rally
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: house Football Monday, Adam Schefter at nine o'clock Instagram. It's
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: a rally house football Monday rally house shop every team
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: in town. Adam Schefter is gonna join us in fifteen minutes.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Would you have vic? What do you want to talk about.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Weather? No? I wanted to talk about some things that
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: are going to come up and are certainly going to
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: be a sign significance moving forward. Everybody loves a snow
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: game in football.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Correct, Well, well, it feels like real football. I guess
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: if you want to.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, real football, real football, right, it feels like real football.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know when when it started snowing yesterday the
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: visibility got bat How did it look from home when
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you're watching it? How did it feels? Everything miserable?
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Looked miserable.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something. Being in the stadium, it
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: was the worst thing that could ever happen again. The
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: cruel irony of the Broncos fate is that the one
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: thing we're known for in Colorado, the one thing we've
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: desperately needed, the one thing we've lacked, the one thing
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: that keeps our tourism industry afloat, the one thing we have,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: is also the same thing that killed the Broncos in
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: that game. Snow, snow, so people are gonna say, well,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: why aren't you prepared for it? Well, this is a
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: team that's not meant to plow. It's not meant to
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: be dog sled. It's not it wasn't ever designed that way.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: We've watched enough of the Broncos this year. You put
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: seventeen games in snow. The Broncos may not win a game.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: They're not a snowplow team. They never have been, and frankly,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: unless they make the changes, they never will be. That's
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: not who they are.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Already, you won't have to worry about it already. Won't
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: worry about it here anyway.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: The texts are coming in vicerssoft for this take saw.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: You could call me whatever the hell you want. You
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: saw the same football team I saw. Did Sean Payton
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: design this team to play in the snow? Yes? Or no?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: No? No, but but but.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: There sounds like there's an assumption that if the snow
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: wasn't there, that the offense would have done something they
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: didn't for a full two quarters before the snow came.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: They would have been able to pass the ball and
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a threat to pass the ball.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: And if you here's the drives here's the drives until
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: the snow came. Six plays negative five yards fumble, five
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: plays fourteen yards pint, five plays fifteen yards miss field goal,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: three plays six yards punt. That was before the snow game.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Well before the snow game. You weren't there. The wind was,
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: the visibility was gone. At halftime this it was already nast.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: That was only one drive in the third quarter. That
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: was right, Brett.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Trust me on this. Trust me. They weren't throwing the
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: ball either. You couldn't throw the ball. You could not
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: throw the ball in the third quarter.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: No, I so get I get.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying is I don't have this assumption that
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: if the weather wasn't terrible late in that game, that
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: they would have done anything anyway. That's all I'm saying.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: You cannot ask a team that is built differently, a
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: team that it's built to throw, to suddenly thrive in
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: the snow. It's not gonna happen. As soon as the
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: snow came, that the Broncos were cooked, well all I'm
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: telling you, And it's gonna make a lot of people upset.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: That's gonna change because if the Broncos had the option
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to close a roof on that stadium last night. Do
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: you think that roof would have been closed at halftime?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Of course yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And for those who say, well, no, not tough enough,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: let me tell you something right now, they would have
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: closed that roof so bad, so quick. If they could
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: have built a roof in fifteen minutes last night, they
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: would have built one.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: I uh, just for the sake of argument, so he would.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Have come to here in four years, Vick, you can
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: have an arena football team. I'm not telling you that's
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: the style of the I'm telling you what this team is.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not telling you I prefer it. Sure give me
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: a big burnie tough team. It's not what this team is.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: And you're not tougher because you like this whole narrative,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: this myth, this fable that snow makes football tough. You
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: know what it makes It takes the skill away from
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: the game, and all it is is snow plowing. Oh
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: look how skillful it is.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you something, though, given the two offenses
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: in that game, the snow would have benefited the Broncos
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: more than the Patriots. Right like Drake May has thrown
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: for It was fourth in the league in passing yard.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is the snow theoretically helped you more
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: than it hurt because it slowed down their offense that
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: relies on deep passes, like sure, that's all I'm hitting at,
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Like and again, I just think, no matter what, it
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: could have been sixty degrees in Sonny, I think it
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: had been really hard for that offense to find any footing.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know why, you guys, you guys think that
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: this is a loser conversation, Sawt. The Denver Broncos are
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: not designed to play in the snow. If you can't
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: see that, you're blind. You're blind. If you can't see that,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: just tough enough. That's not who they are. So blame
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: the design of the team. Don't blame me for telling
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: you what they are, because you saw it, you know, Brett.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: I've I've on this program, gotten on Sean Payton's baking
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: plenty of times for a number of different reasons.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I think, mostly in my mind all the time, for
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: the right reasons.
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: But I go back and I'm reading his comments, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: I heard them, but I'm reading them. So they're soaking
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: in about going forward on the fourth and one, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: a lot of me likes that call, or at least
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: a lot of me likes them going forward, not necessarily
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: the boot that didn't work, but a lot of me
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: likes likes the fact that he wanted to be aggressive there,
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: because there's no doubt in my mind, and I know
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: they're on the fourteen, they're not on the one of
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: the two. But if they get in, that game is
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: over and he's feeling it, man, you gotta killer defense.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Then even if you don't get it, they're gonna stop
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: the Patriots, and they did. But if you do get it,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: you're in such good shape the way that game was
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: going to round out, and you're gonna be onto the
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Super Bowl part. I really don't want to beat him
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: up today about that call. I really don't because I
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: see where he's going and I see what he was
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: trying to do, and nobody's going to beat himself up
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: more than Sean Payton is the next week, month, year.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Well here's nobody.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Here's what he said.
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I just felt like, man, we had momentum to
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: get up fourteen and felt like we had a good call.
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: I think the feeling was, man, let's let's be aggressive
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: to get up fourteen. I was just watching the way
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: our defense was playing. There'll be a number of things
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: when we watch the tape I'll look at and critique
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: and pay close attention to. But it's a hard fuck
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: game and we didn't do it enough to win it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I'll go to my grave with this, and I don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: think there's any way anybody can change my mind. He
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: made that call because he wanted to stick it to him.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: He made that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: He made that call. You're right, I don't You're right.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: I don't think it was bred out of some sort
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: of This is the smartest football decision. I think this
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: was about watch us go out here in the first
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: quarter of this game, bury him with a couple of
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: touchdown and I can do it. I told you so.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: If you recall Britt, they called a time out to
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: talk about things, and they changed the play to that boot.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: If they just go with the original play, whatever, whatever
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: the I'm sure it was a run.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it was probably something that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: They said originally. It was a run.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just just busted up the middle.
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: If you if you have any sort of bulldozer at
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: that there was no snow at that point. I can
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: see where he's coming from and you're right, it's a
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: it's an ego thing. He wants to bust him up
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: through the air. He wants to go up fourteen. I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: so smart. I get that, But man, I don't necessarily
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: hate the idea of going for it.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe I hate the way they call a lack of execution.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: I hate it with Stidham. I would have been okay
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: with it with Nicks. By the way, there's a pretty
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: underrated thing that happened in that game that we haven't
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: discussed yet that mattered late. What was he trying to
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: challenge on that sneak? You couldn't see well, I understand,
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: but you couldn't see, you couldn't e progress stopped.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: You know, it was it was awful. I mean, that's
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: that's the big flaw in football spots, is that you
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: can't tell where the ball is. But from from the
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: angle up above the play, from what I saw, you
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: could have made the argument he was short, but you
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: weren't going to win it. You know, it's it's worth it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: I don't mind trying it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Burned a time out, but.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: That's nothing. I want to go back to this sum
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: this snow thing because I'm hearing from a lot of
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: fans who were at the game, And unless you were
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: at the game, I don't want to hear your crap
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: that it was nothing, because it was something. The visibility
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: was non existent, all right, unless you were there and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: you saw it from the field level. Don't tell me
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: that it was easy to play in because it wasn't.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: It was very difficult to do anything in those circumstances.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think anybody looked at that and said this
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: should be easy.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: No, I'm gett people saying just just throw a tight
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: end screen. You couldn't even throw. You couldn't even pitch
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: the ball. Somebody said here quote as a fan who's
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: been going to games since I was eight years old
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and I'm now fifty, I could tell you straight up
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: bring on the blanking dome because that was miserable. And
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I know there are a ton of Bronco fans who
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: feel the same way, and you may consider them soft
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: and you may say, oh, blah blah. I'm just telling
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: you it would have made a difference in that game.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: And when the new stadium comes in, trust me when
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I say this, it will have a roof. And that
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: roof if it ever snows will be closed.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: So those means are done.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: You think, you think like Minnesota, right, They're like after
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: a while, they're like, screw this. We went dual domes.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: They went dome to dome is what it will be close.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: And you know what, you're not gonna be Buffalo. You're
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: not gonna be New England. Those guys they want open air,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: they want it. That's fine, but that's not what's happening.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: That's not what's going to happen here. I'm telling you
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: what's going to happen. You're going to get a roof.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: It's been.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: No, it's been a while. The Uncas played a snow
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: game like that. One thing I was wondering, are they
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: not allowed to do to take shovels out there in
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: between breaks?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Well, they had they had this snow blower.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Ye had the snowblower. They had the leaf blower.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they had the just just so you could see
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: the yard line, just could see the twenty and the
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: twenty five and the thirty.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: That's that's why they had the leaf blowers out there.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Was it just coming down that the second they got done,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: it was just covered.
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: Again, that is correct. And when watching it on TV too.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: When they put those you know, those computer graphics for
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: the hashes and everything, it was really kind of weird.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: It was Yeah, yeah, I've been.
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: I've been in that stadium, sitting in the stands in
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: the snow many many times. You may think you're a
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: badass because you take your shirt off. I prefer, I prefer,
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: and and part of it, I get nostalgic about it
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: because you know, like I say, I get the snow.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: It's building up on my leg and on the top
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: of my beer right and I'm sipping through snowed on
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: my beer. Okay, great, get me a get me a roof,
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: Give me a roof.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: From Texas sixty three four six. I was at the game,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Row six, Section twelve. Brother, I work in the snow
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: for the winner. This is what I do. That was
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: some crazy snow. It was different, And you're exactly right.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: So unless you were there, I don't want to hear
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: your snow take about how it doesn't affect them. It
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: affected both teams, and one team is better built for it,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: and it's the reason they won.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know who's saying it's not affecting anything though,
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know I don't know anybody who's saying that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I was in the lower bowl. I couldn't see the
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: other side of the stands. Only morons wanted to freeze
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: during the football game. Bring on the roof. I mean,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that agree with me, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that disagree. That's fine, it's okay.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: You know, I got a built in bias here. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: hate snow. I hate I just think it. I hate it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: It makes everything. It ruins your day unless you're skiing,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and I don't. It ruins everything. Gotta drive, gotta deal
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: with the snow. Oh my god, my car's gonna slip
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: all over the place. Gotta clean my windshield.
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: It's cold in Toronto yesterday, Brett uh Here in Toronto
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: they got a foot of snow. Hey, do you want
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: to sit here before we get the shifter.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: The Denver Nuggets are stuck in Memphis right now. Why
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: because of snow?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets couldn't get to the arena.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: They're not said, nobody gets stuck because of the sun.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Take a look at this.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Make it quick. This isn't quick. This is not even
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: remotely close to quick. Snowed there a picture of snow. Okay, yeah, thanks,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I can do that outside here too, if you'd like appreciate.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Three oh three five, four nine two five at the
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