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Why Your Space Might Be Blocking Your Abundance ft Danijela Saponjic · Beyond Limits With Olivia Marie

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  SPEAKER_00: Hello everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Beyond Limits podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am very excited because I have Daniela here with me today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I have been looking forward to this episode because I literally spoke it into existence.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking in my head, I want someone to come on the podcast and talk about Feng Shui.
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  SPEAKER_00: And wouldn't you know it, Instagram delivered me through the algorithm one of her reels, and I was like, this is exactly what I've been looking for.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Daniela, welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited that you're here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm super excited to and I love those synchronicities, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're magical.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for those people listening, tell us about you, what you do, and also what exactly feng shui is for someone who may have never heard of it before or isn't quite sure what it entails.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh my name is Daniela.
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  SPEAKER_02: I am a feng shui master.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've been in this field for work for over 20 years now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um so I'm a business owner um and I'm a mother to four boys, and um, I live between Germany and Serbia right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I always say uh my home is where my heart is, so I'm all over the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so what is feng shui?
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  SPEAKER_02: So there is this traditional description of feng shui which uh says it's um wind and water, it's when um the water beats the wind.
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  SPEAKER_02: So basically uh the wind is the qi, the life force energy, and the water is the uh the core of our it is the the source of our existence.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is basically what feng shui is uh is rooted in.
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  SPEAKER_02: For me, feng shui is a philosophy of life which is being expressed by the way how we uh uh how we not decorate but how we live in our space.
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  SPEAKER_02: But it's very uh connected to the way how how I live, how I think, because it's all um in expansion and it's all about about flow.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is how I uh would explain feng shui from my view.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love how you said it's not necessarily just decorating, it's how you live in the space, which I think I always like, oh, to me, feng shui is like how you decorate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even just what you said, it's how you live in the space.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, okay, and that brings such a depth to feng shui that it's not just decorating.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, how did you you said you've been in this for such a long time, how did you discover feng shui and like what was it about feng shui that you became so passionate about and fell in love with?
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  SPEAKER_02: So, um, well, feng shui discovered me through clutter clearing because I um decided to do, I was in a pretty low place in my life after I finished, I studied business, um, uh business administration and I was finished with the with the studies.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had got my degree, I was a young mom, I was married, and I couldn't find a job.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was very devastated back then because it was my biggest dream to go into the corporate world, into marketing, and do my thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And since this didn't work um and things didn't move, I uh coincidentally read an article about clutter clearing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I first thought, I don't believe this because somebody wants to tell me that changing something in my space is going to change my life.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't, I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_02: But things didn't get better, so um, my husband and me, we clutter cleared our apartment, and I was shocked what I found there back then, and things started really to move.
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  SPEAKER_02: So within two days, uh, we got um the money was paid to us which from the government, which we're expecting for like a half a year, and we got the opportunity to move to a new home.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this was enough for me to realize there must be more to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then um Platte Clearing brought me to Feng Shui, and I bought this book, A Complete Idiot's Guide to Feng Shui, so do it yourself, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was sitting in my in my new apartment then, and I was like just trying to apply and trying to understand this complexity, and then I told my husband, can you imagine me doing this for somebody else and they are paying me for it?
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  SPEAKER_02: And then he said, Well, then do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have I mean I was 26 years old, so it was a very, very long time.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, this was enough for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Again, I couldn't tell you I saw a vision.
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  SPEAKER_02: I always wanted to have an own school of feng shui, I always wanted to have the business I'm owning right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was for me a this moment decision without knowing where it's going to uh get me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when you started diving into feng shui, what is like the energetic reason behind why the decluttering had such an effect?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like from a feng shui perspective, how would you explain the results that came from that?
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  SPEAKER_02: So in feng shui, we uh the qi is the is is is the thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the qi is bringing life or uh life energy to you, it's bringing opportunities, it's the flow of money, it's the flow of relationships.
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  SPEAKER_02: So everything is in the qi.
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  SPEAKER_02: When we have a lot of clutter, qi gets stuck and doesn't flow.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when we clutter clear, we usually have this experience of I can breathe again, uh, the shoulders, it feels it feels light, or even my home smells different, or something like this.
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  SPEAKER_02: But what happens, and this is the big difference between clutter clearing and feng shui, so feng shui is based on clutter clearing, but only clutter clearing won't have the effect if you don't at least glimpse into the feng shui, because when you clear clutter, you're just like opening the space for qi to flow, and the qi will go like, oh wow, let's flow.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like in this flipper, you know, back then with this with this ball running around, and then it will it will flow away because it just gets so excited.
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  SPEAKER_02: In feng shui, we take the qi and we guide it consciously through your space so that you can really feel the abundance, the relationship, and what the health, whatever is needed, um, expand and um and clear and balance.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love how you say because I'm like nodding along, you're like, yes, because once you clutter, we still need to direct the qi, otherwise it's just going all over the place.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, from what I understand, in feng shui, different parts of your home, you're probably you might have to correct me, represent different corners.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, from what I understand, like the back left corner is a wealth corner, correct?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for is it kind of like you guide the the qi in the ways in terms of like locations within the home and you're able to direct it that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: So basically, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um with the the life uh life corners or the bhwas uh Matt, uh it's very valuable, um, but it's um you need to take a wider look a little bit wider.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, yes, basically it is about uh act we say activation.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you activate wealth when you guide the qi towards this the wealth corner.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um but when you uh think about if you balance qi in the space, it the first place, that's like you balance qi, no matter where where the the corners are, you are already activating your whole life, which is super important.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then from this place, you would go and say, Okay, which area of life do I want to emphasize now?
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  SPEAKER_02: And you shouldn't choose more than two because the energy then gets you know divided into too many things, and then you get the same, um, the you get the same uh level of energy again.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if you choose the wealth corner, you just and it's not I always say however you want to decorate your let's say with the wealth corner, however you want to decorate it, um just think about it that your intention is activating the energy.
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  SPEAKER_02: The item you're using, it's just a reminder that you had an intention.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, there's several things I want to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna I'm gonna ask one other question, then we're gonna bring it back to like raising the chi in the house and directing that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's say, for example, that all right, the left corner is wealth, but my office is in a different corner.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe my office I associate with business and wealth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that something you would utilize both areas?
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  SPEAKER_00: You would also utilize like the left corner of the office, or do you look at it as the whole home overall?
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  SPEAKER_00: And like I guess bedrooms for love, maybe, you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is a great question.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I get asked this question really, really often.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh so what do I do?
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  SPEAKER_02: So maybe what do I do if the corner is not in my office, or is in the bedroom, or is in the bathroom, or in the toilet.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, there are all these questions.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um if it's somewhere where it's not in alignment with the energy of the space, then you would look, as you said, at the wealth corner in your office.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you would go, what is the left corner in my office?
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  SPEAKER_02: Can I activate my wealth there?
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  SPEAKER_02: But um there are these limits to this system.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and years ago, because I got asked all these questions, I developed the palaces of life, where I went into what is the energy of this, like what is the energy of the bedroom?
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the energy of love.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the bedroom became the palace of love.
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  SPEAKER_02: Where is the energy of abundance or wealth?
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  SPEAKER_02: It might be the office.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the office became the palace of wealth, the kitchen became the palace of health because we're cooking, that's where the food is prepared.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of developed a different form of bagwamet, which is more natural and easy to use.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm we're gonna jump to that, but I want to jump first back before when you said it's about raising the the qi of the whole house.
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  SPEAKER_00: So how does one do that essentially?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or like what can you share about like when we think about raising the qi overall?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, okay, we maybe we clear out old things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think you've already mentioned some great tips on your Instagram.
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw like get rid of chipped mugs, like that's probably not representing wealth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, what are things that we could think about when it comes to raising the qi of our house?
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so the first thing would be um the the uh the quantity of the qi, and the qi is flowing into the space through the entrance door.
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  SPEAKER_02: So make sure that the entrance door can be really opened wide.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is so important because it's our mouth, and if we cannot open our mouth completely, we just you know, you cannot have the same intake of air, of water, of food, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is before we start doing something in the space, I think we should just make sure that the qi finds the entrance door so it shouldn't be hidden, so you know it can be nicely decorated, and then um, so that the door can open, and then the entryway should also be free of clutter because the entryway is our throat.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you when the qi comes in, the throat it's very narrow, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: The entryways are very narrow usually, so the clutter gets, you know, the energy gets clogged there.
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  SPEAKER_02: So be make sure that the entryways um and the doorways are really free of clutter so that the energy can flow into the space.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is this is the first and really easiest way to uh raise the level of qi in your space.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that you said that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just moved into a new house two weeks ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: So not only did I do a massive declutter, it's like very intentional about what things I brought to me in the new house, but specifically, I will say my old house, the entry closet was very much a mess.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I remember your reels like we have to keep this clean and even like shoes, there's no more shoes getting left out by the entryway.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like my fiance likes to just leave his shoes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, no, we put them away, like there's not cluttered, it's open, it's organized.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, this is the mouth of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I love that you did that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it comes into the house.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now that it's in, what what's the next thing we need to know?
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  SPEAKER_02: So the next thing is um, so I want to give you a sense of how qi works.
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  SPEAKER_02: So a qi is like a child.
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  SPEAKER_02: I always say qi is like a child.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just suppose all children are the same until a certain age, they're just curious and they go to places which are bright and nice and interesting, and they would avoid places like dark corners or cluttered, uh cluttered um spaces or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: So without knowing all the rules, just forget the rules and go into your feeling.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you look at your space, usually you know, you know, when you really look at your space, you know where those dark corners are.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know where the qi is flowing too fast.
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  SPEAKER_02: For example, if you have this classical door window lines, um, the door, the window opposite the door, usually the qi would flow straight away through the window because, like a child, it's like, yeah, I'm going out, let's flow out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why should I stay inside?
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  SPEAKER_02: Except there is, I call them qi attraction points.
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  SPEAKER_02: Except there is a qi attraction point somewhere in the space, and the qi goes, like, well, there is the window, but there's something also worth looking at.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, and then it flows to, I don't know, to the couch maybe, or to a painting or something, and then it flows out.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, I have uh I have a small short meditation.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's called the I call it the butterfly meditation, and um I can I can share this with you if you want uh to um to uh link it in the show notes so everybody can download it and it's really like a five-minute meditation, which helps everyone to get a feeling for the chi flo in their own space.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I love we're definitely gonna put that in the show notes so people can get a feeling.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love how you made alternatives already to some of like the rules, because I'm familiar with that rule of you know, if the entrance of your door is also then going out a window or like the back door and you can see all the way through, it's like, well, if someone's house is structured like that, like are they now doomed?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, we just need to be intentional by cultivating like that amplification of qi at another point, be it whatever it is, so that it directs it to there and doesn't just go out the back door.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also heard about mirrors, and you don't want to put mirrors near a door because then it bounces the qi right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that true?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can as you can see I've been very into the fang shui recently.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when you say like a amplification point and something you find interesting, like a child, is that something that all right, I think this painting is really like this, or I think the couch is it like personally?
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like that meditation example, it's like, ooh, how can I cultivate that feeling?
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  SPEAKER_00: So if I were to walk through the door, I would be pulled to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And maybe even if I'm focusing, let's say, on the wealth space, I would want to build that amplification point maybe in that left, far left corner.
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  SPEAKER_02: Also, also, yes, and it's all about you and what you like because your uh intention is guiding the energy because energy follows thought, so it's really about yourself, and this is why I always say never put something up only because of feng shui.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't like this decoration or painting or whatever, you'll be like, uh, I don't really like it, and but it's there because of feng shui.
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  SPEAKER_02: So energy is not going to follow that thought and that intention.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I want to dive into specific feng shui when it comes to like wealth and money, but first I'd love to do a little like myth busting of things I've heard, and are these things true?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think they're things I've necessarily heard.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they might be things I've heard from you, but I think there's also want to hear like the explanation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the first one is about bathrooms, which I think is from you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's how I found you is the real about the bathroom and closing the door.
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  SPEAKER_00: And for context for everyone listening, it was about closing the door of your bathroom, but also closing the lid of your toilet.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I will say, I never close bathroom doors before finding this reel.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: So can you explain closing like the toilet, which I just do because I have a dog, but also closing the bathroom door and like what that represents wealth-wise and feng shui?
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh it's basically really simple.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh qi and so, as I said in the beginning, wind and water, that's the that's the ex that's the translation of the word feng shui.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, wind, qi is very attracted by water, which means when the bathroom doors are open or completely open, and the toilet lids and so on, um, the water in the bathroom attracts the qi into this place, which means qi is missing somewhere else.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we are losing qi through the water which flows away in the bathroom.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the explanation behind it.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I like that.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, would that mean also the opposite that if there was something involving water that we liked, whether it maybe it's physical water or it'll maybe mini fountain of some kind, that putting that in our wealth corner would then direct the qi there?
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it could be any type of water, like I could put water just in my wealth corner, and that would just if that felt the line, right?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: If that felt good to me, I would be like Absolutely, yes.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yes, absolutely.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: So water is the most powerful uh feng shui remedy or tool we have.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so playing along with that, what are other ways we can utilize water as this important feng shui?
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe like we don't have a fountain.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: What are other things when we think about water that we should be aware of?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can always um, for example, the the color blue is always associated with water, so you can play with this color.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: You can also play with pictures or paintings of water.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: So um, you know, it's both, I mean, of course, physical water is the most powerful, of course, because it's physical.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: But as I as you said, uh sometimes we don't like or cannot have a fountain in the space, then um go to to the pictures or paintings of water, the color blue, for example.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: This is how you can utilize water then.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love those.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: Those are such good little like, and I feel like everyone can find something between like blue or a painting or a photo or actual water that's going to fit them and it can represent that.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to wealth and money, what else do we really need to think about?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: Or what are other things that you want to share about cultivating that feeling in in the house, whether it's generally or whether it's specific spaces or corners, etc.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: So nobody talks about the heart point in the space.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I haven't talked about it yet too uh on my Instagram, but I will.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, because the heart, every space has a heart and every space has a soul.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: So um the first step for me is always connecting to the soul of the space.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I love my home.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like you, I mean, my home is giving me the space to grow and to um create abundance and to grow my family and everything.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm in love with my home and my office, and this is what activates the energy of the space, and this is what makes connection.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then the heart point is usually somewhere in the center of the space.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: And you can, I mean, you can create a personal altar where you just maybe have family pictures if it's your family home, or something which is symbolizing the love and the heart for you and your family.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: So, because when you activate the heart point, all life areas are going to be activated as well, even though you don't place anything anywhere.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because as our heart, we know it's you know, the heart and the brain, and how much energy the heart holds, and the energy and the intelligence our heart has, we should also give our home the same heart.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: So this is the first thing I would do.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: The second thing is of course decluttering.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about it.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we had there is so much information.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then this one thing with the decluttering only decluttering won't get you anywhere if you don't step, stop and if you don't start thinking about the things you bring in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, it will just go on and on.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, and you want to be out of the The cluttering mode someday, so just be mindful.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: And then the next thing is really um about what I shared on my Instagram account.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what how does wealth feel for you?
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: And we don't need to buy explain expensive clothes or um you know expensive things.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: Wealth can be very uh very um a supple feeling, it can be just something beautiful because wealth is not only money, wealth is so much more.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: And uh for me, for example, when I was when I was starting to think this way, um I was um I went off and bought myself crystal glasses.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: I love to tell this story because those crystal glasses for me uh are a symbol for luxury and beauty and and traveling and everything.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I had those IKEA glasses at home.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: They were practical for the kids, but I was like, well, I think we need something more wealthy here.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I love those glasses, you know, and the the thought behind it is when we manifest and visualize well, then we all have it in our head.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: We need to meditate, we need to focus.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe there is a window, uh vision board somewhere.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: So we, you know, we need to actively do something to connect with this energy.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: But when I know I don't have my crystal glass, I have my summer glass here.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: But when I have my crystal glass, the moment I have it in my hands, the energy flows.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have to consciously think about it.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: And this is really what I am teaching, what I'm trying to raise the consciousness about that our whole space can hold the energy of our vision so that we don't have to think about it as much as we do.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I love, I love everything you said.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: I also feel you on the glasses.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: The cup I drink, like my coffee out of, what I drink water out of, like to me, it all matters, and it matters so deeply and so richly because it is an experience.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I think when you slow down and you're very intentional about curating that experience of the things in your home, in your kitchen, in your bedroom, I'm sure like the sheets you use, all of these things you experience that like that wealth, and you don't have to consciously like put so much effort behind it because it's and I'm guessing it builds the qi in the house, right?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's how we're like amplifying the qi is through these things.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: So the heart point, just to make sure it's clear for me and the whole audience, that's the center point, and that's the point we should be putting what matters to our our heart, like an altar of sorts.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: For example, if you like something like this, yes, then an altar.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it it's sometimes you know, the center is maybe in the middle of a doorway.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: Then just move it to the next wall.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, just go with the intuition and feel okay, this would be a beautiful place somewhere in the center to activate my heart or the heart of the space.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: And anything that we feel activates it.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it could be photos, it could be, I don't know, a beautiful candle, whatever we feel activates it.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: It can be a quote, uh, it can be, you know, um, sometimes I know uh people they love to put uh put up uh up a Buddha or something, but you don't have to.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can really go.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: I always tell my clients, what does the heart feel for like how does the heart feel for you?
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: What what's the symbol for it?
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: And then just start with one little thing.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Don't go shopping to buy the things for your heart point.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just start with one little thing and then let it build.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you're sharing so many things that like smaller things we can do, but also compounding.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you can get like the glasses or a coffee mug, and then you can work maybe to the sheets, and then I don't know, something in your bathroom, and like just closing the door.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's all these things that we can start to do.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: That reminds me of something else that I heard.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it was from you, but also I remember because I wasn't doing this, so I was like, oh, I have to do this.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: The elements on your stove, and if we have like multiple burners, we shouldn't just use one burner because if we use all of them, that increases the flow of qi when it comes to money for different pathways.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're always in the habit of using that same one burner, the other ones aren't used, and then the qi is not flowing.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is that correct?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, you can see it like this.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: I have never, I mean, it does make sense when you, of course, explain it.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_02: But if I mean, if you don't take care of the qi flow, everything what we just taught right now, this won't get you anywhere.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like only this.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: If your door doesn't open, your entrance door and the opportunities and the money cannot even flow.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know, using this whole stuff won't change the situation.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: So priority one is obviously allowing the qi to flow in, yeah, and probably also not letting it leave, like with the bathroom example.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: So, like the more we can keep in the house, then we want to amplify it.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: But there's no point trying to amplify if we can't get it in and we can't keep it in.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, you want to keep the qi because you want to keep the abundance and the wealth and the money in your space.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, you'll be like, I make so much money, but it's just flows out the window, right?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we have it already in our language, so keeping the qi is the next, I mean, it's just part of the balancing the qi in the fung shrei consultation.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_00: That just popped a question in my head when we talk about windows.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: But would that mean like opening windows disrupts the flow of qi because it lets the qi out of the house?
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, it I mean it is important that the qi flows out because we are we are breathing in and we are breathing out.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: So the qi needs to leave the house, but not straight away.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it is good to like sometimes have window open and let things flow.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna be letting qi out of the house by opening your windows.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: No, no.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: So what would you say is the most important thing for keeping qi in the house?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Besides, like, yes, we've gotten it in now, we don't have any mirrors that are next to doors, and we don't have any doors aligned with windows that go straight out.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: You get what I mean?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: How do we really like build and amplify it already when it's inside?
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_02: So, okay, as I said, again, the hard point is super important, and then just make sure that the qi is really and this is the butterfly exercise which will help you with that the qi, don't just look at the entrance door or only at one space, like where the door is opposite the window.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, go through the whole home and make sure that the qi is flowing through the whole space, like the qi is flowing through our whole body, you know, from from like the whole body is um filled with with life force energy.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we want with with our space.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um when you balance the qi in a way that it's flowing through the whole space, like your whole home, um, this is there it where the like the wealth is also being pulled in and it's calmly flowing through the space, which means it's calmly flowing through your life, and then it's used, like the air we breathe, then it leaves our space.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love that that analogy.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's perfect.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure people can feel when they maybe walk into their closet or a certain room, it's like if you can feel that immediate contraction in your body, like you're very in tune as women.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you'll know that probably maybe that drawer, that space you've been avoiding looking at is probably holding the density that you need to address.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now, you also mentioned maybe it was today or yesterday, something really interesting on your Instagram about like the subconscious underneath it all.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Can you dive into that and how that undercurrent is running like the show of like how you how you feel in that?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so as I said, um feng shui is about um intentionally activating something, so putting an attention to something.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: So um, an intention is energy, and intention is also connected, you know, if you're sabotaging yourself subconsciously, your intention won't be pure because you're sabotaging yourself, right?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_02: So um that's why I say feng shui is not placing items, it's a way of life.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: So when you want to activate your wealth corner, but you have beliefs that you cannot build wealth, here is where the connection comes.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: So you will work on your beliefs if you're conscious that you have them.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: And at the same time, you're releasing those beliefs and you're activating the abundance in your space.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: So just imagine you're releasing these beliefs, and the abundance in your space is still low.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: So the belief your space is not at the same, it's not aligning with your new beliefs, so it's dragging you down.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: And then the other way around is maybe you're not conscious that you have those beliefs, but you're like, oh, I love this game.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: Let's raise the wealth energy in my space.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: So you do it, and your space is pulling you up.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: So you're like, how about my beliefs around wealth?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should work on them.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: So your space can help you release subconscious limitations.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you bring that forward.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, basically you're bringing forward a different way.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like I talk so much about subconscious and nervous system, but I love the utilizing of the space of like actually the home and the feng shui.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you just created such a beautiful unison between them and how the they're interlinked.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: And like you said, if you do all those identity upgrades and all that work, but your space is not fully reflecting in it, and you feel, ugh, it's gonna almost like be a ball and chain on your ankle where you're not gonna be able to integrate it as fast, it's not gonna solidify because of that space, which is also probably why I felt wildly different moving into a new house just two weeks later.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, wow.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it's uh it's it's really um hurting my heart to see that our spaces are not being, you know, a part of the whole process of personal development.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: We work so hard on our, you know, as you say, nervous system, beliefs, subconscious mind, programming, manifesting, success, uh, abundance, and everything.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: And we forget our space, and our space is holding it all.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: So this is why I'm here.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like you should write a book.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: If you haven't thought about writing a book yet, I feel like you should write a book from this new perspective and really bring that like fresh lens to to Feng Shui.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: I will.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's on my list, definitely.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm calling it out, I'm just like reaffirming it into the field for you.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: When it comes to really using this space, would you say that it's important to bring like the energy of like really building it up in terms of like clearing out the letting go?
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um I mean it's like a detox when you do it for your body.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um for example, I mean, you would first let go of you know, everything in your body what doesn't feel good or toxins, whatever, and then you would build up the new energy or whatever you want to do, or even with the cloth, right?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_02: You want a new branding, so you would let go of things.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: So for me, is letting go and also consciously, you know, you can also declutter consciously.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: You can say, I don't know, this glass is connected to a feeling, a situation.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_02: And with this glass, I'm letting go of this feeling too.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it's you know, consciously decluttering.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I always say it's a decluttering process because sometimes it can be really, I mean, exhausting.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_02: Stop decluttering when you have the most fun.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason is because when you will get back, go back to cluttering um easier because you're like, oh, I had so much fun back last time.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: But when you go declutter until you're completely discussed uh exhausted, you will go like, I was so dis uh exhausted, exhausted last time.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't really want to go back to this task.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: I really like overall how essentially your home is a living, breathing energy.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: So the things that we think aren't alive, like you know, a coaster or a mug, like they they are alive, they're living, breathing, giving off energy, which is all either contributing to the space or not contributing.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: And that made me think about when you were speaking, what if you know, we live with other people?
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure a lot of people listening live with other people.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: How do you navigate maybe competing feng shui?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe of like you to you, that's really draining.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe to them, it's the most favorite thing.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: But when you look at it, it's if I think about like my fiance's office, I'm like, that is not a place.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: That brings so how do you or maybe there's could be things or a chair, a couch, a painting.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: How does that kind of weave in when we're living with other people?
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Or also perhaps if you have children, right?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe their their room is messy, or like can you kind of speak on living with you know partners and or children and how that kind of relates to feng shui and how we can kind of approach that?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I always love to say always start with yourself.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is this is the best way to start.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: So be respectful of other people's things, even it's if it's your partner or your kids.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you start with yourself, and then hopefully the others will be inspired.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: And like something what she's doing works.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: I want that too.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_02: So this is always the best way.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Very often it works, um, sometimes it doesn't.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but then there is just the conversation just to ask, like, why can't, for example, why can't you let go like of things?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is the most common problem um in in relationships.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I love to let go, my partner loves to hoard.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_02: What do I do?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_02: So there must be a reason why somebody's holding on to things.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not about telling them what to do because it's usually doesn't work, especially not in relationships, right?
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it's best to inspire them and to really try to understand what is behind and where is the starting point.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: We don't maybe need to start with the biggest thing because we are connected emotionally with the clutter or with the things we we are keeping.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe it's something really small, it doesn't matter, and celebrate every single thing this person lets go, for example.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: So just start small and don't start projecting what you want on somebody else.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: You start with yourself and then try to inspire your, you know, the partner or if some you're living with somebody and so on.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: And with kids, so I have four of them, and um I always get asked, are your kids like like the mom?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_02: What did they learn from you?
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I they didn't learn anything.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I ask myself, like, why did God give me kids who are not like on this decluttering trip at all?
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_02: They're just like all over the place.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: So um what I use, so my children are 9, 16, 18, and 24.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: And um, even today, sometimes then I'm so I'm not cleaning their rooms behind them like every day, tidying up, but sometimes when I'm in the mood, uh, even when they were smaller, I would go and really cut a clear their space.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: I would organize everything and make everything beautiful.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: I would spend a whole day in the room, and they would come go come back from school and they would go like, thank you, mom.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: And even today, um, because I believe children do need support.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: They're finding their own personalities, they're in the dream state, they are, you know, whatever.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: And we can support them.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: And I always say uh clutter clearing should not be a reason for argument at home.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's not worth it.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that you brought that forward.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I think also maybe within kids' rooms too, we're speaking about, you know, the intention and the expression for you, perhaps have letting them have maybe it's not a mess of expression, but like, are there colors, are there things in their room that's actually fostering good energy for them?
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's actually their highest expression.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I always say children are finding their own personalities, and it is being expressed in the space.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: So if a child is or or a teenager finding their personality, we cannot expect to have a tidied up place.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's impossible.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, there's so many golden nuggets we've touched on.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else you feel like we haven't touched on that you would really like to share about feng shui?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Something that like this is so big, or whether it's a topic, a tip, uh a thing for us to know.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I think there's one thing I which comes to my mind immediately.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: Forget feng shui rules.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: Feng shui was not made to tell us this is good feng shui, this is bad feng shui.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: It depends.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_02: So when my uh my students ask me, Daniela, how is this?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: How is this?
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: How is that?
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: I say, well, it depends.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me the story.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: I need to know more so that I can tell you because always think about it.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_02: Feng shui is over 5,000 years old, and it was developed by looking at nature, but being by being in nature.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: So back then the feng shui masters they didn't have an online shop to buy things, just put it in some corner.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it must work differently.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it's really about, I don't say we can feel feng shui because then we wouldn't need a certification.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: They are things to learn, of course, but the it's always like feng shui says it's always like this.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_02: Usually it's not.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: So really open up the space, become, be curious, and uh start learning about the qi.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: Start learning about how qi is flowing, even the butterfly exercise.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's so simple, but it's so powerful because it gives you the freedom so that you can decide what needs to be done instead of going tip here, tip there, try this, try that, and it gives you your power back.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you spoke on that, like not giving your power away to the rules or kind of feeling like you're boxed in by them.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of kind of like a feng shui issue I'm having in my bedroom because where the window and the door is, the door goes out to the window.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: And right now there is construction because they're building some new things, and the only place I can put my full-length mirror is to mirror out the window, but then it's mirroring the construction.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, apparently that's bad feng shui because it's like noise and this and that.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm like, there's nowhere else to put it into me.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, it doesn't represent anything bad.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hopefully, there's gonna be a new coffee shop in in there, right?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're so I love that you said that because it's like, oh, I'm not doomed now in terms of where the mirror is my bedroom.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not gonna put it in the one that's right across from their bed because I'm like, that was the other option, and that does not feel good.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I know about like the insomnia or like I think they also say inviting a third party into your relationship, which is more funny, but I just more don't want entities coming in at night.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I can put it on that other wall, and it's not like, oh, I'm doomed because of this construction.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, I actually feel like neutral, if not positive, about the construction, about what's coming in across the street.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so to me, that's like the perfect example of what you said in terms of like trusting your feeling, your power, and not outsourcing it to the rules.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_02: Please, please don't do that because you're missing out.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm obsessed with this episode.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm obsessed with your content.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad I found you.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Where can everyone find you?
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we will link everything down below, like your Instagram, that butterfly meditation.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_00: But share with us where we can find you and go watch every single one of her reels, save them, apply them to your house.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I've been doing in my new house.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, where can we find you, Daniela?
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so the best way to find me is really on Instagram because this is where we have in the bio linked.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I have a YouTube channel where I do floor plan analysis.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, then of course I have a website.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and every, you know, everything is basically linked in my Instagram bio.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: So this is really, really the best way to go and to find me and to be updated with my stories and what's going on and so on.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, amazing.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: All right, everyone's gonna go follow you on on there.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: We might have to bring you back for a tight uh part two one day because I'm gonna have more functional questions, as I'm sure, as I'm diving into this.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh thank you so much, Daniela, for coming on, for giving us your wisdom, your expertise, your knowledge.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone is better for it for listening today.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.