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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Doom & Gloom For Bryce Young & Dave Canales? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. This
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  Speaker 1: is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 3: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 1: Do it live. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Michigan Philly, who's
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  Speaker 1: a persona that I have a feeling after Saturday we
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: may not hear from again this year, Bone, upset about
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  Speaker 1: their maize uniform selection on Saturday. That's the least of
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  Speaker 1: which we should be upset about regarding Michigan. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about highway robbery, Bone, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if your takeaway from that whole event was Michigan
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't wear maize, then maybe you're not looking at the
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  Speaker 4: right stuff. Them trying to get down the field bone
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  Speaker 4: for most of this game was like going through a maze.
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  Speaker 1: How do we find the end zone? We're stuck in
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  Speaker 1: the corn maze. Oh, my gosh. Anyway, the reckoning's coming, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all even going to score against Oklahoma this week?
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, more on that later and whether or not... Oklahoma's
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  Speaker 4: favored by four and a half at the big house.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. There you go. And I think we
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  Speaker 1: saw why on Saturday night. But anyway, we'll talk more
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  Speaker 1: about whether or not we're buying with the Big Ten saying,
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  Speaker 1: do we still believe... um that western michigan got absolutely
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  Speaker 1: screwed we'll talk about that um you know we got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about what happened with some of the acc
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  Speaker 1: teams in college football this week as well bony as
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  Speaker 1: talking about the off the field storyline with the tar
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  Speaker 1: heels uh the reports coming out of wral in raleigh
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  Speaker 1: Not what Heels fans wanted to hear. I do think
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  Speaker 1: Heels fans did want to hear that Michael Lombardi resigned, though.
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  Speaker 1: I do think they wanted to hear that. But the
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  Speaker 1: rest of that off-the-field stuff is concerning. So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about it all right now with a man who has
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  Speaker 1: covered sports in the Carolinas, in North Carolina for years.
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  Speaker 1: He is David Glenn. Check out the North Carolina Sportsnet,
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  Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. It's great. north carolina sports content and
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  Speaker 1: dg joins us here on the mac and bone show
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  Speaker 1: dg what's happening man how you doing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing great always fun to be with y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Um what did you think of the i mean i
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  Speaker 1: guess i know you you didn't you didn't think much
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  Speaker 1: of it but the clemson beat down at the hands
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  Speaker 1: of lsu how shocked were you by that and like
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  Speaker 1: how worried should clemson fans be that this season could
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  Speaker 1: be a brutal one what do you think or a
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  Speaker 1: rough one what do you think Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: My answer to that is kind of like last week
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  Speaker 5: when NC state lost at Virginia, I wasn't surprised that
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  Speaker 5: the Wolfpack lost. I was surprised that just the gory
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  Speaker 5: details of how badly the Wolfpack lost and same thing
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  Speaker 5: with Clemson. I didn't think they would win that game,
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  Speaker 5: but I didn't think they'd lose by a hundred touchdowns either.
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  Speaker 5: And one thing it reflects to me guys, and I
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  Speaker 5: remember asking Dabo Sweeney about this years ago when the
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  Speaker 5: transfer portal exploded, he's somebody that I like and respect
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  Speaker 5: and admire in many ways. But I said, coach, what
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  Speaker 5: is it with you in the transfer portal? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: why are you not leaning in? And he had his
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  Speaker 5: answers back then when he didn't take any transfers. He
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  Speaker 5: takes some now. but I just think Clemson invited disaster
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  Speaker 5: by not playing by the same rules that basically everybody
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  Speaker 5: they're trying to beat is playing by tech. Virginia has
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  Speaker 5: like an app offensive line that averages about 24 years old. Why?
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  Speaker 5: Because most of them are transfers and most of them
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  Speaker 5: are in their fifth, sixth and seventh year of college.
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  Speaker 5: Dabo doesn't want to play that game. He has his reasons,
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  Speaker 5: but I think it's come back to haunt him on
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  Speaker 5: the field.
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  Speaker 4: DG, do you think we're starting to, I know I
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  Speaker 4: saw a tweet the other day that said it's not
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  Speaker 4: the beginning of the end of Dabo, it's the middle
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  Speaker 4: of it now more than the beginning. Are you sensing
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  Speaker 4: that the end might be near for Dabo based off
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  Speaker 4: where the program is, but also just from his point
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  Speaker 4: of view that this is a sport that maybe he
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  Speaker 4: doesn't love right now?
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  Speaker 5: It could happen. I mean, Dave Clawson of wake forest
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  Speaker 5: or Tony Bennett on the basketball side at UVA, those
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  Speaker 5: are really good coaches who decided to step away at
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  Speaker 5: least in part at relatively young ages, because they were
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  Speaker 5: tired of the circus sideshow and agents and NIL money
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  Speaker 5: and all that stuff. Dabo could come to that conclusion.
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  Speaker 5: I would say bone that the Clemson administration has a
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  Speaker 5: much more favorable view of Dabo Sweeney than sometimes the
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  Speaker 5: fan base does. And it's that administration level that makes
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  Speaker 5: these dismissal decisions. And Dabo's the guy who's brought Clemson
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  Speaker 5: not only two national championships, they were both, what, a
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  Speaker 5: decade or less ago. And he's won, what, nine ACC
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  Speaker 5: football championships in his 18 years there, including just a
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  Speaker 5: couple years ago.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 5: I know they're not used to seeing seven wins like
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  Speaker 5: last year or being on the wrong end of that
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  Speaker 5: ugly score as they were this weekend. But I think
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  Speaker 5: that the administration would let the season play out. The
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  Speaker 5: administration would ask Dabo, you know, what is his view
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  Speaker 5: of the future? Is he willing to lean into the
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  Speaker 5: portal even more than he has lately? What is his
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  Speaker 5: big-picture view of how to run Clemson, and does that
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  Speaker 5: match what those administrators want to see? I think that
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  Speaker 5: conversation is for December, and between now and then, Dabo
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  Speaker 5: has to come up with a much more competitive team
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  Speaker 5: than he showed this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: My comparison, David, has been Jay Wright for Dabo. Two
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  Speaker 4: guys that were winning titles right around the same time.
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  Speaker 4: The sport kind of changed. That's been my comparison for him.
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  Speaker 4: Mackers as well has been Jay Wright a little bit there.
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  Speaker 4: Long way to go, we thought, in their career, but
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  Speaker 4: the sport changed and they didn't love it. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of examples of that. There are a lot
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  Speaker 4: of examples of that. On an unrelated note, Luke Fickle
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  Speaker 4: looks like Jay Wright to me. I kept thinking that
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  Speaker 4: all night last night watching that game.
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  Speaker 1: All right, anyway. Well, thanks for letting us know that.
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  Speaker 1: No one cares.
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  Speaker 4: That doesn't apply to this conversation. David Glenn really cares.
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  Speaker 4: He's been thinking about that all day.
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  Speaker 1: David Glenn, you can't get that 12 seconds back of
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  Speaker 1: that comment and the reaction. All right, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: this UNC situation and the investigation that's going on there.
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  Speaker 1: They got lawyers involved investigating now, and now it's the
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  Speaker 1: entire football program. Lombardi's resigned. He resigned very shortly before
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  Speaker 1: WRAL came out with all the details of the investigation,
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  Speaker 1: and there's some ugly stuff in there. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 1: about it. What do you think? Like, is this something
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  Speaker 1: that could lead to the end of the Belichick era?
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  Speaker 1: And the timing of this is terrible because of the win.
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  Speaker 1: They finally had some momentum on the field for like
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  Speaker 1: the first time. What do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a scary situation. It's too early to tell
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  Speaker 5: whether it's going to catch up to Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Belichick, right?
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  Speaker 5: Because, you know, Mike Lombardi had the human resources allegations
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  Speaker 5: against him. And there were questions about whether he was
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  Speaker 5: violating NCAA rules. I know everybody jokes that everything is
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  Speaker 5: legal now, but there are still rules you have to follow,
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  Speaker 5: even with name image like this money and revenue sharing money.
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  Speaker 5: So those investigations are more tied to Lombardi, who, as
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  Speaker 5: you said, has already resigned. The drug-related allegations are surrounding
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  Speaker 5: Steve Belichick, the defensive coordinator who's still on medical leave.
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  Speaker 5: And you guys know how this stuff works. It's one thing.
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  Speaker 5: If the head coach is, is accused of just failing
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  Speaker 5: to monitor his staff, right? That can get you fired.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, but it has to be pretty severe. It's
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  Speaker 5: another thing. If a coach has, has been participating in
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  Speaker 5: wrongdoing or knew about it and covered up and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Along those lines.
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  Speaker 5: So I use the analogy that it was about five
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  Speaker 5: years ago that Tennessee would have owed the football coach,
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  Speaker 5: Jeremy Pruitt, $ 12 million to If they fired him just
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  Speaker 5: for losing too many football games. But when they fired him,
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  Speaker 5: they said they were firing him for NCAA rules violations
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  Speaker 5: and not monitoring his staff very well.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what?
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  Speaker 5: They never paid the guy a dollar out of the
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  Speaker 5: 12 million.
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 5: Because when you can attach the wrongdoing to your head coach,
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  Speaker 5: that gives you an excuse to fire him for free.
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  Speaker 5: And Pruitt threatened a lawsuit and he lost that lawsuit
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  Speaker 5: and he never got a penny. So is Carolina, are
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  Speaker 5: these investigations, which are not over yet, right? They're still investigating.
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  Speaker 5: If in the longer haul, the Tar Heels have a
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  Speaker 5: second straight losing season and these investigations somehow tie Bill
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  Speaker 5: Belichick to the bad stuff. Well, that's when. Instead of
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  Speaker 5: having to pay him $ 10 million or so come January
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  Speaker 5: to fire him, that's when they, you know, who knows,
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  Speaker 5: there could be a legal showdown where the Tar Heels
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  Speaker 5: try to get off the hook for that big contract
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  Speaker 5: without paying Bill Belichick a dime.
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  Speaker 1: To go away.
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  Speaker 4: Seems like we have similar questions going on in different ways.
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  Speaker 4: It was Dabo, it's Belichick. DG, what do you think
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  Speaker 4: about the future of Dave Doran at State? Would they
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  Speaker 4: ever move off of him because he's been good, but
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  Speaker 4: as they try to get to that next great level,
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  Speaker 4: it feels like they're kind of stuck in the same area.
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  Speaker 4: Do you ever see, or within the near future, the
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  Speaker 4: pack moving on from Dave Doran?
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  Speaker 5: I think you got to let this season play out
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  Speaker 5: because as bad as the Wolfpack looked against UVA, they
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  Speaker 5: still have a very manageable schedule this year. So if somehow,
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  Speaker 5: let's say Dave Doran goes eight and four and who knows,
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  Speaker 5: maybe wins his bowl game. They're not going to fire
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  Speaker 5: a nine win coach.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that conversation, man, I live it and
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  Speaker 5: breathe it here in Raleigh all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, fact nation likes winning eight and nine games, but
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  Speaker 5: they're tired of winning eight and nine games. Heck Dave
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  Speaker 5: Doran himself told us in the media that he's tired
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  Speaker 5: of just having good seasons and wants to play there
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  Speaker 5: in your backyard in that ACC championship game. Heck, CJ
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  Speaker 5: Bailey said the goal this year was to make the
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  Speaker 5: college football playoff. The Wolfpack quarterback said that to me
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  Speaker 5: and I'm sure others, and then do some damage in
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  Speaker 5: the college football playoff. And then they lay that egg
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  Speaker 5: at UVA, 34 to eight was embarrassing. But if you
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  Speaker 5: look at the pack schedule, others in Louisville, there's not
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  Speaker 5: a team to be afraid of. on that entire remaining
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  Speaker 5: 11 games and Louisville has to go to Raleigh. So
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  Speaker 5: that would be bone, a very contentious conversation come December.
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  Speaker 5: If let's say the Wolfpack goes five and seven or
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  Speaker 5: six and six, but I think if he has another
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  Speaker 5: good season, it's going to be more than noise in
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  Speaker 5: the fan base and not as much the people who
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  Speaker 5: actually make those decisions, you know, university presidents and athletic directors.
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  Speaker 1: Both Duke and Wake Forest had pretty good starts to
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  Speaker 1: the season in different ways, but pretty good starts to
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  Speaker 1: the season. I see those teams in a similar area
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  Speaker 1: of the ACC this year, I feel like. Do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like one team is better than the other? If
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  Speaker 1: you had to guess, who would you go with?
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  Speaker 5: Great question. I think I'd lean toward Wake Forest. In
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  Speaker 5: today's day and age, guys, there are examples of teams
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  Speaker 5: that have zero or one starter on a certain side
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  Speaker 5: of the ball from the previous year just because of
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  Speaker 5: early NFL exits and the transfer portal, etc., Wake Forest
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  Speaker 5: has eight returning starters from a defense that was really
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  Speaker 5: good last year as Jake Dickert won nine games. And
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  Speaker 5: I thought last year they were kind of mediocre offensively.
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  Speaker 5: Gio Lopez, the UNC transfer, is now reunited with the
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  Speaker 5: same guy that he was with at South Alabama two
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  Speaker 5: years ago. And he's playing like the old Gio Lopez,
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  Speaker 5: which put up 38 points against Alabama. last Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: Duke is good again.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I don't think either Duke or Wake
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  Speaker 5: is going to win nine games again, the way they
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  Speaker 5: both did last year. Duke's good again, but they've gone
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  Speaker 5: from maybe having the best quarterback in the ACC, Darian Mensah,
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  Speaker 5: who's now with the Miami Hurricanes, of course, to... Just
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  Speaker 5: not a very good debut for a guy named Walker.
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  Speaker 5: He get a San Jose state transfer. They really struggled
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  Speaker 5: offensively in the passing game against Tulane. And that's a massive,
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  Speaker 5: massive drop off at QB from a year ago. They're
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  Speaker 5: really well coached Duke as his wake. I think they're
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  Speaker 5: both good this year, but I'd be shocked if either
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  Speaker 5: one won nine games again.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Nate Shepard's on pace for one million carries this year,
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  Speaker 1: which may not be sustainable. Yes, he was incredible.
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  Speaker 4: He is not on the Duke Walker list, which I
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  Speaker 4: will repeat every week on the radio show. You're personally offended,
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  Speaker 4: and you should be, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: You should be. I'm going to go talk to Doug
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  Speaker 1: Walker myself there, D.J.
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I'll be out of here. He is David Glenn, the
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina Sports Network. Check it out on YouTube, and
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  Speaker 1: check him out on Twitter, at DavidGlennShow on Twitter. Thank you, brother.
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  Speaker 1: We always appreciate it, man. This was a holiday morning
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  Speaker 1: appearance by you, all right? We know most people rather
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: be sleeping than talking to us on Labor Day morning.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother. Be good, man.
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  Speaker 5: I expect you guys just grinding and grinding for years
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  Speaker 5: and years. It's always fun to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 5: Keep up the good work.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, man. Be good. There you go. That is David
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  Speaker 1: Glenn joining us on the Mac and Bone Show. I
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: got to be honest, Bone, you showed your producing skills
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  Speaker 1: to get three different gentlemen to come on on Labor
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  Speaker 1: Day morning and chat with us, man. That's pretty strong
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  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think, like, Jake Crane's coming up next. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think guys like Jake Crane even know it's Labor Day.
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  Speaker 4: It's just Monday reaction day, right? And it's week one, too.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, finally, we got the whole full slate. So
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  Speaker 4: they would talk. You think, like, 2 a.m., you probably
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  Speaker 4: could have gotten to take an interview? I think, like,
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  Speaker 4: college football people, they wait so long for this that
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  Speaker 4: the Labor Day is kind of, like, just part of
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  Speaker 4: the football calendar, right?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's true. Like, we don't really mind working today.
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  Speaker 1: Because not only do we have... Because, like, there's so
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  Speaker 1: much to say.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's college football reaction, and... Panthers-Bears is... It's Panthers-Bears Week. Oh, it's...
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  Speaker 4: Panthers-Bears Week. We are so close to go time. I
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: don't know why my tongue just went out of my...
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  Speaker 4: It's Panthers-Bears Week as well.
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  Speaker 1: What are you, Mike Tyson? I don't know what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there. I was talking. All
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm spotting it. Oh, man. What are
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  Speaker 1: we doing now? Oh, we got to go to break,
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  Speaker 1: don't we? Forgot we go to break on holidays.
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  Speaker 4: When we come back, the aforementioned Drake, Jake Crane from.
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  Speaker 4: Crane and Cone joins us. He's going to recap week
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  Speaker 4: one and the games last night as well. And look
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  Speaker 4: ahead to Florida State SMU tonight in the ACC on
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  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. Hijinks.
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  Speaker 1: Studio hijinks this morning. Somebody's messing with the Mack man.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why I just called myself the
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Mack man. But that's what I get. You know what?
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: That's what I get for scolding Fitty like he's one
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  Speaker 1: of my children for leaving an old half-drank Mountain Dew
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  Speaker 1: bottle in the studio. But now y'all are messing with
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  Speaker 1: me and grabbing stuff out of the trash and sitting
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  Speaker 1: it right in front of me.
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  Speaker 4: It popped up out of the trash can out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: It came back to life, unlike Clemson the other night.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It could be worse. It could be worse
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  Speaker 1: than having your co-workers mess with you. But you could
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: be a Clemson fan. Hell, you could be a Charlotte fan.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Insert Clemson. Any team in here that had a rough weekend,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: you could be a poor Western Michigan fan. We've got
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: so much to talk about. Week one of college football. Man,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: what a classic that was with Mississippi winning on a
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  Speaker 1: walk-off field goal against Louisville last night, too. And we
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  Speaker 1: still got one more tonight. SMU at Florida State tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about all things college football. Our next guest,
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  Speaker 1: the host, one of the many, great host of Crane & Company,
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  Speaker 1: he is Jake Crane, and he joins us to talk ball. Jake,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, man? Appreciate it. How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man, I'm doing fantastic. Glad we got some more
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  Speaker 3: college football on tonight. I tell you what, if week
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  Speaker 3: two can get close to week one, we're in good shape.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't kidding, man. And there are some good ones
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  Speaker 1: on the slate in week two. What did you think
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  Speaker 1: about the way LSU dispatched of Clemson? Did you watch
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  Speaker 1: that game and say, oh, no, Clemson's in real trouble?
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  Speaker 1: Or did you watch it and think more of, oh, damn,
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  Speaker 1: this LSU team could contend for a national championship? What
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  Speaker 1: did you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, on our show, we tried to
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  Speaker 3: tell everybody this was coming. You could smell it from
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  Speaker 3: a mile away. I try not to overreact after the
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  Speaker 3: first games because teams change so much. Games, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: we're really from game one to game three.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: But, you know.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Clemson's response. And I've got a lot of respect for
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Dabo and, and I know he cares about his guys
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: and his players and, and they're going to try and
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: stay together. I just, I'll be honest, offensively, the scheme,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Chad Morris, they look so unprepared, especially on the line
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage at the offensive line. But I really went
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: away from that game. Looking at LSU, watching the way
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: they run around, watching the way the guys look at,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: they have watching the way that LSU played disciplined with
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: really good players, which is horrifying. Like that time, Tony
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Stark built that, you know, suit in the cave out
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: of scraps. I came away more impressed with LSU than,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: you know, Oh, Clemson's never going to win another game. Again,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I had Clemson go in eight and four, possibly seven
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: and five at the end of the day. So I
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: wasn't shocked there.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: That is the voice of Jake Crane, one of the
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: hosts of Crane & Cone.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Check it out on YouTube. He's on Twitter, Jake Crane,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: C-R-A-I-N underscore, a tremendous college football follow. I know there's
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of reasons behind this, Jake, but what do
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you point as the biggest reason of how Clemson has
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: ended up in this spot where they've regressed so far.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: In a couple of years?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of like how a tornado is formed,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: at least how I think they say it's formed. You've
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: got to have certain hot air mixed with other conditions.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: It just seems like the coaching staff has regressed back
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to the mean, and the personnel and the depth has
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: regressed back to the mean, and you put those two
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: things together, and it's kind of like a double whammy.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Where's the Trevor Lawrences? Where are the guys that I
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: watched with Clemson? Where's the Nuke Hopkins and the Justin
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Rosses and guys like that? I like Wesco. They've got
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a couple other pieces, but it just seems like in aggregate,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Clemson just doesn't have enough guys, especially at the high
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: end level. And look what LSU has that's top shelf liquor,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: my friend. So it just seems like you've had a, a,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a regression of the mean from the coaching staff and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: from the personnel, which Look, I've got a lot of
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: respect for Tom Allen. I always said if you want
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: to fix something in your house, you call Tim Allen.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: If you want to fix your defense, you.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Call Tom Allen.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: It's a shame I've got to throw that line away now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: It's such a good line, but that line is in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: jeopardy right now.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: People always have that line, though. It is in jeopardy, man.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: That's what you're good for. Your references blow our minds sometimes.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: That's two already today. He's on a roll, baby. On
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a holiday morning after a long weekend of football, he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: still got it, baby.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Oh, man.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: No holidays in the Crane house.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: No, especially with two young kids now. There's never a holiday.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point. Jake Crane
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is with us. Crane and company. Tremendous college football content.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Look for their channel on YouTube. It is great stuff. Reacting.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: always in previewing college football. Let's talk about the Michigan win.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: They got a do-over on a bad Hail Mary pass,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and Underwood put that one on the money. But, I mean,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: everybody in America felt sick for Western Michigan. You have
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: heard the Big Ten's kind of explanation since then and everything.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Do you feel still today that Western Michigan got screwed
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: on Saturday night? Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, you know, Bryce Underwood can really put
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it on the money when he doesn't have to throw
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: it to anybody. You know, just that's just a sacred path.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Here's what, here's where I sit. I watched that thing
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: in real time live. And, and my, my first question
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: is why is the game clock not synced up with the,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: whatever Hawkeye system y'all have with the coaches and the
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks are looking at y'all may want to fix that
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: number one, but number two, I, man, I don't know if, if,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: if I had screwed over a team, I excuse my
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: language and I had to come up with some excuse
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: to not have the college football world freak out. God,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: it sounds like the one they used.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: You know, our Hawkeye system here, look at this, look
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: at this video, look at this video where he touches.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It was one second that we definitely didn't doctor. I just,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I watched it in real time, man. I, I feel
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: like Western Michigan won that football. David Cone, who's, who's
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: one of, one of our three hosts on cranny cone,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, he played quarterback at Michigan. The first thing
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: he said is Michigan lost that game. And I think
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: they did. If I'm Western Michigan, I would, I would
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: have pulled a Jackie moon. You know, we, we would
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: have left, we would have left the field. You wouldn't
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: have got another play.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Well, James, my guy Mack here brought up a great
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: point because after the game, I'm sure you saw it too,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham was talking to Western Michigan's Lance Taylor and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: he appeared to say there was no time left.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: And then, Mack, what did he say in the postgame?
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: In the presser, he said, I looked up at the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: game clock when it happened. I thought there was one
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: second left, but that's just me. It's like, that's not
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: what lip readers think you said.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, look, I think we all know it's like politicians.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: They're like, well, you know, I said that, but I
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: really meant was, man, prices are too high.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Louisville out of the ACC loses last night on a
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: last-second field goal to Ole Miss. But what did you
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: think of the Cards' performance last night, and do they
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: seem like a playoff team potentially to you?
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I had him in the ACC title
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: game before the season. And after the first half, I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't feeling very good about it. But after the second half,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I was feeling a lot better. I just don't understand
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: why they hate field goal kickers so much. I mean,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: good Lord, guys. I've never seen somebody run into the
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: kicker twice in a matter of three plays. I mean,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: let the guy kick. I think athletically, physically... I mean,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I was super impressed. I know, I know Ole Miss
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: ended up scoring 41 points, but the difference was, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss was blowing coverages. Louisville was just getting blown
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: by after Deuce Alexander caught the ball. Those are two
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: different things. But, but I, what kind holds, I thought tough,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: real tough, gritty, you know, I had the two box
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: up and I swear Wisconsin and Louisville had the same
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: guy at quarterback. If you were watching both those games
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: at once, it was literally the same guy. But yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: without a doubt, you look at the schedule that Louisville has.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: We've got to see SMU tonight, but it's really, really
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: hard after week one not to look at Louisville and
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Miami and go, yep, that's it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I tend to agree with that, and you bring
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: up a great point. The 56-yard field goal that was missed,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and they called the roughing, And it leads to the touchdown.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Like that right there, that might have been the game.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: If Louisville doesn't make that mistake, they may win that game, man.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But I thought they put– compared to some other ACC schools, Clemson,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: they put on a much better show representing the conference.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. What did you think– let's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: go more to a national scale here. What did you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: think of the performance from Oregon– boise i mean up
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: 10 in the first half of this game and oregon
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: didn't seal that one until the final couple of minutes
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: did you watch that and i made oregon my national
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: championship pick a year after making clemson my nationals i
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: thought i was gonna lose my champ in week one
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: for the second straight year that explains what did you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: think like is oregon overhyped or is that just kind
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of week one and they'll be fine.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, for this year for Oregon, it's not, hey,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: let's win the Big Ten or, hey, let's make the
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: college football playoff. It's what they're going to do when
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: they make the college football playoff. And for that to change,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: for them to be able to advance further, they have
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: got to become more dominant in the line of scrimmage. And, again,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I've got a ton of respect for Boise State.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: You know, it feels like in, like, the non-P4, they're
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: kind of like that kid in fifth grade that's, like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: already 6'2 1⁄2. and just like dominates every kid that
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: his age, but you know, when, when he plays against
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the older kids, they beat them. Um, I feel like
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Oregon looked a lot like I've seen Oregon the past
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: couple of years, but offensively Dante Moore was great. We
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: know DeCorean Moore, Evan Stewart, Jordan Davidson, which is the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: second most important Jordan in college football. Uh, But they
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: looked mortal in the front seven. And if that happens again,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: they're going to just shove you in the locker in
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: front of the cheerleaders again in the high school at
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the end of the season. So it seems like Oregon
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: looks like regular Oregon, which is so weird under Dan Lane,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: who is such a good defensive coach and an incredible motivator.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could get somebody to walk up out
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: of a wheelchair.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're throwing about 99 on the reference. You're
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: like Randy Johnson in his prime right now.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like Zoolander. I got one move, but it's a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: good one.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I got one look.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Audience loves the references. Real quick before we let you go,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: who do you like this weekend in Austin, Ohio State, Texas?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: What's your pick in that game?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: In these games, I like to go with home team
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: just because they're so evenly matched. They're so talented. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: just want to know which quarterback you trust if you
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: can't run the ball. To me, if somebody's got to
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: sit in the pocket and beat anybody, I'm going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: go Julian Sam, but I think Sark's going to find
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a way.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Give me Texas.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: All right, there he is. He is Jake Crane, Crane & Company.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Look these guys up. Crane & Cone. Crane & Cone.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out David's last name is in company.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I keep calling it company. That's the old name? Is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that what it is?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the old name again. I must have misread
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: it or something, but his last name is Cone.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: My bad.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: We had him on a couple weeks ago, and we
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: had to explain to Mac he's not the former Yankees pitcher.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I just learned that, and now I'm leaving his name
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: out of the damn show. That's my bad.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: I will say, I know you guys got to go,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: but somebody said, man, David Cohn, I can't believe y'all
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: got the former pitcher on. And he was like, yeah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: you had all that trouble in the bullpen and that scandal,
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: but to be honest with you, I'd never pitch for
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: the Mets.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. All right, Crane and Cone, everybody. Say it
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: together now. Crane and Cone. All right, David Cone is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: a person, too, and deserves his name in the show.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Look those guys up and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: listen to them talk college football. Appreciate you, Jake. Thanks
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so much, man.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Hey, see you, fellas.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Jake Crane with about seven
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: great one-liners, and I can't even get the damn name
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of the damn show right, for God's sakes. I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: he mentioned John Starks in there, I believe, early on,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: didn't he? Oh, yeah, multiple texters are like, Mac and
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Bone have no idea who Tony Stark is. You seriously
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: don't know who Tony Stark is?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Iron Man?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I knew he was the, like, what do you say, Finney?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Alter Ego? Of one of the superheroes? Tony Stark as
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Iron Man. Yeah, Bone's right.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I knew it was one. I didn't know for sure.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: In Max's world, Cal Ripken Jr. is Iron Man.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: No, J.J. Jansen now, baby. Oh, sorry about that. J.J.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Jansen versus Tony Stark. Which Iron Man you got, baby? Oh,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I love J.J. Tony Stark would whoop his ass.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Oh!
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: How dare you! Oh, my heart hurts. How dare you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: put some dang armor or whatever that outfit is on JJ,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and then it's a fair fight, baby. JJ, a snap
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: football's right at him. They'll just pig right off him, though.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: All right. It is time for... The man they're calling
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the love doctor. The Fit Daddy with an update right now.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Update your date, man. That should be your update. Update
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: your date. You could update your date or the Atlanta
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Falcon quarterback situation. I'd rather hear about his date. Fit
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: his date way better off. What's up, Faye? It's all
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: right to be a little fitty. In a little hometown
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: or a big old city. Might as well share, might
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: as well smile.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Life goes on for a little fitty while.
• 29:16
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• 29:22
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• 29:33
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• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Dirty Birds, the Atlanta Falcons, have named a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: starting quarterback for week one. They'll be at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And Tua Tagovaiola will be the starting quarterback for Atlanta
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to open the 2026 season.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Mac, I heard for week two, though, against the Panthers,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: they're going to try to patch together like a combo
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: of Tua and Penix with their body parts. Like whoever,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: this arm works, this leg works. They're just going to
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: try to make one quarterback.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Out of these two guys. They may want to find
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: somebody else here for some help. I'm not sure those
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: two can make one good one. I'm telling you, Carolina Panthers,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: we'll talk all about week one against the Bears this week,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and that game really feels toss-up-y to me, Bone. But, Panthers,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you are going against... Tua, or could he be benched
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: by the time the Panthers play him? He might break. Watson,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: or could he be benched by the time the Panthers?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You are going up against these two horrendous QB situations
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in week two and week three. Don't do it, Panthers.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Don't you dare do it one out of either one
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of those games.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: No, we'll discuss you meeting the Panthers, those Bears-Lions games,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: and they're tough. The two in the middle, those are.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Got to have them. Got to have them.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Got to have them. And that sandwich, the bread is
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: the Bears and the Lions. But the meat of that sandwich,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you got to gobble that up. You got to devour
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: that meat, dude. Just throw it down.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Like Fitty at Jersey Mike's on a Tuesday. I don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: think Fitty needs Jersey Mike's now for anything other than
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: food now. The way that third date went on Saturday.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Do you know what the text line is now calling Fitty?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: What's that? They're calling him the smitten kitten right now.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He is, man.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I met the parents already. Meeting parents? Going to church.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: He's Ben Stiller. He's meeting the parents, man. You are
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: one step away from going to Costco and getting seven bundles.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, good for you, Finn. I've got a future trip
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: with Tara to Costco, by the way. There you go.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Made some great dumplings last night. When we come back
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: here on the Mac and Bone Show on this Football Monday.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Nick Wright predicts doom for the Panthers and Bryce in 2026.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: Could it be that bad? ESPN piles on as well.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I don't think Bryce markedly improved last year. I don't
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: think there's a lot of evidence that, like, oh, Bryce
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: turned a corner. They won some games, and I give
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: him credit, and he had a nice stretch. But overall,
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: the course of the season, it was a hell of
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: a lot like year two. My guess is, at the
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: end of this season, they are looking for a new
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: coach and quarterback. I know that sounds harsh. I don't,
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: you know, it's my job to tell you guys what
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He was supposed to unlock Bryce.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: And so we'll see. I am skeptical that that is
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: going to go. I think there are six win teams.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: How dare you, Nick Wright? How dare you? That is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Nick Wright on First Things First on FS1 at the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: end of last week. And there you go. Happy Monday,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Panther fans. Yet more national media doubt. I just want
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: them to prove these jabronis wrong so badly, Bone. And
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure anybody says jabronis anymore, but I just
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: said it. That feels a little... You and Dwayne Johnson.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Are we the last two standing? Yes. I feel like that's...
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: A little too harsh. I'm not saying without the right injuries.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: We already have multiple injuries at the offensive tackle position.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But a six-win season, a regression from last year after
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: what was added on defense, I just, that would be
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: shocking to me. I know our schedule's tougher out of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the division, but we still have six NFC South games.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: That would, I don't know. My floor's higher than six wins.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I just want you to know that, Bone.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the division alone should give you a
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: number of wins. I mean, yeah, the schedule's harder, but
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: regression to me, I just haven't really, I haven't contemplated
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: that much because, yeah, if you want to say they
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: might be similar, we can argue that, but I don't
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: think they're going to be going backwards.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I think that defense is going to be so much
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: better than it's been that they're not going to allow that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Six wins feels to me in this division, even with
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the harder schedule, to be... Barring T-Max, I don't even
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: want to speak about injuries because I don't even want
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to somehow... Mac Hexum. You know what I mean? But like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: then you shouldn't say anything at all. Like all week,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't talk. You shouldn't breathe. Oh my God. That's
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Finney's first attempt to just outright have me die. So
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: he could sit in this chair. He's very mad. He
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: got scolded for a soda bottle today. And his Alabama
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: quarterback and his Alabama quarterback, that one, he didn't like that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: The way I treated him for his Alabama QB tank either.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: It's personal. So I don't know. How does that hit
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you if you're a Panther fan, that negativity? Why do
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like some Panther fans, Bone, are worried they
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: could win six games this year? Oh, no doubt. I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: think it's all because of the type of preseason that
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the offense had, the struggles of the offensive line in
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that Houston practice. the injuries to the offensive line, the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: injury to Nick Skorton. I do think there's definitely been
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a drop in positivity from some fans. Y'all, we're in
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the damn NFC South. If we win six games in
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: this sorry NFC South bone, that is going to be
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: an absolute letdown and a half. We cannot let that happen.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We know week one and four is tough.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: We also know that after the bye, it's Philly, Tampa,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Green Bay, Denver, New Orleans, Baltimore, Tampa.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: But after that, there's a bunch of teams, Mac, that
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: when we get to December– We have no idea what
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: direction they may go, and it's Minnesota, it's New Orleans, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Seattle,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: then it's Atlanta. But that Minnesota, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh area, Joe
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Burrow doesn't always make it through the season.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: We have no.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Idea about Aaron Rodgers in December. Minnesota, we don't know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: There's teams at the end here. You could make the
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: case that, yeah, Cincinnati might be good.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: But there's also the chance that that's the part of
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the schedule that completely is different than we thought it
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: was going to be, and they can get some wins
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: there as well. There's no doubt there's a very tough
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: part of the schedule, but the back end of the schedule...
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: We'll see when we get there how tough it might be.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: And I'll say this.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: The interesting part of that, too, though, was— and by interesting,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I mean annoying— is that Canales and Bryce will both be done.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: They'll win six games. I could see a world where
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Bryce Young is replaced as our quarterback after this season.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I can see that world. I don't think it's the
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: most likely result of the season. But I could see
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that world. Do y'all see any world where Dave Kanellis
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: is replaced?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: No, because if they got rid of Bryce Young, they
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: would want Dave Kanellis to work with a quarterback and
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: have him out pick out the quarterback.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Don't Dan and Dave get to pick out their— keep in mind,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Dan didn't even get to pick out the quarterback. Yeah,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: they'll find another guy. Dan was in the front office,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: but wasn't calling the shots. No, Kanellis is not going anywhere. So, like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: don't you want Dan and Dave to get a chance
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: to pick their quarterback? What were you going to say, Fiddy?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: That was pretty much what you said, where I thought
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: if you take his comment at face value— I'm with you, Mac.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I could see if the Panthers were to bottom out
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and they go 6-11. I do think they do go
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: QB hunting. They're in the market to get a quarterback,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: whether that's they draft one, maybe they try to bring
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: in a vet. I don't think a six-win season would
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: get Dave Canales the ax, even though it would be
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: three straight quote-unquote losing seasons, unless, Mac, the locker room
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: and the culture became fractured, because that's been the biggest impact.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: is that the culture that he has spearheaded.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to fracture with him on the case.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: This isn't Matt Rule. I'll tell you this.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: As someone that didn't love the Canales hire, I've come
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: around on him since, I would be okay if they
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: worked to move on from Bryce but kept Canales here.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I think Canales has earned more of the benefit of
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the doubt than Bryce has.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: What is up with Spence's question? He's like incredulous over
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: what we're saying right now. Please put on a fake
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: text or voice for Spence. I like when you do that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: He says, Mac, do you– I don't know what my
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: fake text or voice was. Mac, do you guys truly
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: believe the Panthers will win more than six games, or
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: are you just saying that because you work so closely
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: with them and want them to succeed? Honest question. Great show, guys. Well, Spence,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: we appreciate your support as always. Of all the opinions
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that we spew on a daily basis– The Panthers not
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: regressing this season after adding Devin Lloyd and Jalen Phillips
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to the defense. I don't, why is that a hot take?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. Are we just being homers? I say a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: lot of dumb stuff. I didn't think that was one
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I don't need, I don't need repeated back the dumb
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: stuff I say, but I don't think going over six wins,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: they've gone, they've, they've, gone three wins, three wins advanced
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: in the last couple of years. In the first two
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: years under Canales. So why is saying that six, it
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: doesn't make a lot of sense.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I also want to know, Matt, how much film of
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Bryce Young's has Nick Wright watched?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I really want to know. Not much.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Because if he goes and reads the analytical stats, there
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: will be certain stats that you read off from time
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: That are good. There are certain stats that are bad.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: That could advocate that Bryce took a step forward. There
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: were some that maybe Bryce didn't. But he said that
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: he was a lot like he was two years ago. Well,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: did you not watch the back half of the final
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: eight games two years ago, Nick? When he came back
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: from his benching and was a really damn good quarterback.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Hell, did he watch the playoff game? Like, I mean,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: like you didn't want, I know he had to pick early,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: but you didn't watch the playoff game and feel like
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I see. I mean, listen, in fairness, Bryce Young needs
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to do it more consistently.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. To say he's not improving
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: every year. I think that's a lie, but you just
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: nailed it. You really think a dude to host a
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: national TV show is locked in on the Panthers? No,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I think he's locked in on LeBron's jockstrap. Oh, dang!
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And Mahomes. And Mahomes.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And maybe I do want to know where he got
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: his hair product from. Because wasn't Nick Wright bald a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: decade ago? Like, that's what TV money will get you.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: It'll get you a beautiful woman and some hair.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I don't expect the audience to really know what I'm
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: talking about, but he looks like a bad guy from
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: General Hospital.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: One of the Casadines. I was more of an as-the-world-turns guy.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like he almost looks like a caveman, almost.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: He looks like a guy that's going to be a
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: threat to Sunday Corinthians.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Maybe I've said too much. That's good general hospital knowledge, man.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Is he still on the show? I watched it when
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I was a kid, and he was on the show.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's still on, isn't he? I check in
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: about once a year, and he's in trouble, and he's trying.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: To save his life.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He's still on, isn't he?
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: My God, that's a long run on a damn show.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And has he not been killed yet?
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Then again, people are probably asking, how's Max still on
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the air on this show, and how's he not been
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: killed yet?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: That was me at 740.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like you guys need to hug it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of tension right now. Oh, I still
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: owe you a hug. I still owe you a bro hug,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Fit Daddy. That's my man. Get my hug, bro, Dumars. Fitty,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I did say that I'm with you to Tar Heels.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I think they got a shot against Clemson. I said that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't that make us friends? As long as we have Belichick.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking Steve.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure you're going to. You may not
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: have Steve again. We'll see. We'll see.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: We'll let the investigation play out. When we come back,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: it's a segment of college football questions. Is Dabo done?
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Was Western Michigan screwed? And who besides Clemson stood out
• 42:04
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• 42:07
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