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Sitting on Saturn · Caught on the Mike...

• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: Three guys who met in elementary school have gone from playing house shows in San Diego to sharing stages with 311, Dirty Heads, and Ocean Alley, playing Petco Park with the Savannah Bananas, and now they're entering in a brand new chapter.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Hoyt, Kyle, and Trevor are sitting on Saturn.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Their latest single is Deeper Blue, two more songs on the way, and a new record is coming soon.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: So let's go back to where it all started and then get into where they're heading next.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: Guys, welcome to the show.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, and thanks from Philadelphia.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's where we are right now.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having us, man.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, thanks for doing this.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: I have been wanting to make this episode happen for a while now.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad we finally connected and uh made it happen.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, us too.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: Very, yeah, very stoked.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you guys go all the way back to elementary school.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: What do you remember about those first days getting to know each other?
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: And when did you realize the three of you had something musically that you wanted to pursue together?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: Dang.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: Dang, that sounds like us way back in the Well, we were just like little kids, like little fetuses, pretty much.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: And we were like, so Trevor's Trevor's uh dad had a rock school called Rock Nation.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of like way back in the day.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of like uh Rock of what was it like with Jack Black with that one movie?
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: School of Rock.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: School of Rock.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like that.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: But we would play for like our drunk uncles and stuff.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: We all sounded terrible.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we sound, yeah.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so we would, you know, we'd play like three cover songs, and uh, we'd learn all these songs, and it would have like a different genre to it.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like sometimes it'd be like punk, sometimes it would be, you know, like I don't know, like something.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: We were all kind of in different bands, and yeah, sometimes we loved each other, sometimes we hated each other, but it all worked out.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_00: We were years years later, and really guts again they're kind of in college time to really farm this this version of the band.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, my daughter was in a program very similar to that, and the lady that was kind of the instructor figure was obsessed with 90s grunge, and it drove my daughter nuts.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: She's like in a good way or a bad way.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, she she's like she loves like Stevie Nicks, but she also loves Sublime and she loves 311 and and bands like that.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: But she's like, Dad, I'm covering fucking Pearl Jam again.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: I want a wheel here, all on a wizard, all a wheel, dude.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think we had a grunge night one time.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: We played it all, we played every song.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: The thing it did teach us was like showmanship and it taught us communication, communication, like it taught us a lot of genres too.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we were always switching genres, which kind of I don't.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, even now we're we will switch genres up, so that was a good thing that we did.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: So it was oh absolutely, and I say that about my daughter's program in jest because it was the same thing, man.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: It taught her diversity and like the basic skills of performance, right?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because some of those things, you know, unless you're doing it in the real world or in a situation where you're actually on stage, it could be an odd acclamation for sure.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, very yeah, just getting up there and like because like you could all you could just play the guitar and stuff, but people are coming to see you, like they want to see something fun, yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Transitions and all those little tasteful things, yeah.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, so you guys so you guys eventually started writing your writing your own music and playing locally, but things really began taking off when you were in college in San Diego.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: What did those early house shows and local gigs teach you about the band?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: And what kind of live experience did you want to create?
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just kind of how to have fun, honestly, with it.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, remember.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think initially, I mean, we just played high energy energy songs, and we kind of figured out you know what songs like the audience liked, and just kind of created our sound like that.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: And some of the earliest shows were were crazy, people jumping out roofs and just like tops get rolled up to and stuff.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: It was like I remember there was one party that we were playing, and and it got rolled before we we were just in the middle of sound check, and all these people were there, and then the cops showed up and they were like, You guys can't do this.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we switched to a different house, and then that one got rolled before we even played, and no, and then I was like, There's no more houses left, and then there was this one drunk dude, and he was like, You can play at my house, it's just down the street.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: So we brought the entire party to his house, and then we played a whole set, and then at the end it got rolled.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: But like it was it was just creepy, like it was so fun.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, all the they all the people in in San Diego really just they love music, and it's it was fun to like be part of like a community of people just like really stoked on on like alternative music and stuff.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it was fun.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, that's funny.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: I the whole time you were telling that story, I'm envisioning people that are like half drunk and like if you want to come to the next party, you better grab a piece of gear and follow us.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: Grab a cymbal, grab, grab an am.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: I listened to I actually did not take the hell.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: So, was there a specific moment when sitting on Saturn, previously known as sitting on Stacy, stopped feeling like three friends who had a band and started feeling like, holy shit, this could actually be our life?
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, that was always our goal, I think the whole time.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we kind of wanted to make it kind of a career.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, honestly from the start, like yeah, let's just try to see how far we can go.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we've always taken it very seriously.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what Kyle said.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what Kyle said.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's talk about that evolution because it was pretty significant, uh, musically, professionally, and even with the name change, when you look at that older version of the band, what do you think you were still figuring out that you finally figured out now?
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think with the name change in particular, like we were definitely kind of more confined to like one genre, like it's kind of like the you know, wacky, it's almost like the like the buckhole surfers or something, kind of like that.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: But it's hard to like so I think with Saturn, we were kind of like we needed to like we we like gas giants and stuff, so we're just like you know, we hated the old band.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: We want to shoot a lot of people did want to shoot for something more, you know.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's not too drastic of a new polarizing game, so yeah, that's true.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: So uh, but um, I don't know.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we just want to shoot for something more.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm like sure.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: You don't ever want to be like stuck in one genre, I think, for us, and just we all want to try experiment as much as we can.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we like to play with every type of band out there, yeah, type of song out there.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think it just fits our spare.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: Do you guys feel sometimes that is a limitation or a challenge as you're starting to develop your sound is being pigeonholed?
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like anytime you show someone a song, they're like, oh, that sounds kind of like this one.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I I do it too with bands, but like I definitely, I mean, it's we've been told by many people like you can you know stick to one genre and stuff, but we always want to like just do as many as because we love so much music that we're like, why stick in one genre?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's hurt us, I think, like, especially with like algorithms and stuff, but because like they're just like, who who are these guys?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: But it's so fun, especially live, like just getting up there and having like a song with horns and then going into like a metal song or something, and then a ballad.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's what all of an amic stuff.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like we have fans, we have a lot of different kinds of like speech type fans that like some people like this genre and some people like the other genre, so yeah, it kind of helps us uh like get different groups of people.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's fun.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Do you guys feel that there's a little bit of a duality in that sense where you might have been limited by not sticking to one lane, but we're also living in the streaming world where people are less handcuffed to certain lanes of music to where people just view music as music?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Is that something you guys struggle with internally?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_00: When we went on tour with 311 last year, they were one of like, especially me and Kyle, one of our favorite bands growing up, and they don't have a genre, in my opinion.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right, like they play it all, and they do.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was really it was really cool eye opening seeing them do something kind of similar and and that it can be done.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it was really fun.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, it's weird.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this whole thing where people are like really have to be a new band, have to be a punk band, have to be a reggae band.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, but nowadays, yeah, for sure, you can kind of genre bend and stuff and try different things.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: So that's what that's what we like to do.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: We get bored really easily.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: So we're always wanted to switch it up.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, the 311 guys, a little bit older guys, I'm uh a step younger than them, but I know we come from the era where music is your entire identity.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: That if you were a punk guy, you were a punk guy, you were anything else along along those lines.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: And to me, personally, as a musician myself, it's really refreshing to see people genre bending, as you said, and like being okay with exploring different genres.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's uh that's what we love doing.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: We just yeah, it's it's um something we've always tried to do, and yeah, it's it's I mean, it's hurt us and helped us in the past.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think our live shows are definitely fun because it goes, we like to take people on like a journey, it will start like crazy and go soft, and then and it's like our fans the the hardcore fans of us, like they they love that stuff too.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think they would get bored if we just stuck with one genre too.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: So it's yeah, you mentioned the algorithm.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: Do you find that you guys have more success marketing your live show versus the recorded product?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: And are you kind of challenged by trying to translate one to the other?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: I would say we're more of a live band on which I personally like that.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it's like uh yeah, because sometimes the I don't know, it's weird, like sometimes the rec the recordings don't do like the live stuff justice.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like yeah, I think we're kind of that, yeah.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_00: We're kind of more live oriented, and yeah, it is part to recreate like we'll just find to uh into recording, yeah.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: And we play a lot of our recording stuff, like a little bit differently.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and we never have used tracks live, it's only just the three of us for the most part.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: If someone makes the mistake, it's like pretty devastating, devastating, everyone knows.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even again, kind of referencing the big unks in 311.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like that's you know, I said that to my wife this last week.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, you can listen to 311, but you haven't experienced that band until you've experienced it live.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, on that is true, very true.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Amazing.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: So you guys are on an amazing trajectory.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: Let's jump to something that seems like one of the most uniquely sitting on Saturn experiences you've had recently.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Playing Petco Park with the Savannah Bananas.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta tell you, the content from that is absolutely brilliant.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: I was actually sitting in a restaurant, I think Saturday night, watching the Savannah Bananas game on the game.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was was it the Twins game?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because we were at the twins, we played the Twins or Target Field Minneapolis like three nights ago.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: That was yeah, that was even bigger than Pecco Park by a little tube.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we did three nights there.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: What the hell is it like being a band inside inside a completely insane banana ball environment?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: And how different is that kind of performance from playing a traditional content?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't even know where to start.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know where to even start.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, I mean, when we first got this, um Jesse reached out to us, uh Jesse Cole, he's the the owner, uh, and he created Banana Ball.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: He he like reached out to us.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I'm starting up a team.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I saw you guys, I listened to your originals, and I think it'd be awesome.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a beachy team calls a coconut summer thing.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: So we were like, Yeah, sure, let's try it.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then we get Perpeto Park was our first show with and I had never really known much about it.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: And and it was just like our green room is you know, like when bands like go back and behind stage and stuff.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: That that is like the dugout with the team.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so we're like with so we're like with the team, and it's like baseball and like punk rock and like rock music, and all it's like I don't know, basically play in like four different locations in a day, and you just have to be ready to play stuff on the fly, and you never really know how it's gonna go, but the crowds are massive, it's awesome.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're here in Philadelphia right now.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: We're doing three shows out here this weekend.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we used to put it in venues, and yeah, playing on the field is like we can barely see.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of terrifying.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's such a delay, and it's like those fields aren't really meant for like a band, like a band that is just to set up and play.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's very found.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like last weekend in Minneapolis, like I'd hit the drum and it wouldn't come out the speaker for like almost a full second hour or something.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: You really have to rock in.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: The delay is terrible, yeah.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: I wondered about the delay in those in those stadiums.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: I you know, going back to my daughter, she's done the national anthem in several stadiums before, and that's that's an insane feeling to hear like that even five millisecond delay back to you while you're trying to perform.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that took some getting used to for sure.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's very good.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: But uh it's fun.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, and a lot of our stuff has to do with the actual game that's going on.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, like at the bottom of the third, right?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if depending on who strikes out or whatever, go out there and play some.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: We'll go play out, like play a song.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have like a little pit crew of people grabbing the drum play and running out there with the mics and everything.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Stop and fire.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, then you play, then they so like you gotta be ready.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's super fun.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's number like playing at the parking lot or on a last we literally played in a bridge in downtown Minneapolis.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a freeway, yeah, freeway path.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: So the bridge was kind of shaking.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the staking, and my drum riser was shaking.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it felt like I was like playing in an earthquake.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: There was like how many there's probably 10,000 people on this freeway, and it was just shak.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like anytime you'd get them to like jump or do anything.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they love music too, and like it was just the whole thing was just shaking.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, you could feel it.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was like an earthquake, it was like a 5.0 earthquake, but it was awesome.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, it's like unlike anything we've ever really done.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And and we're super tight with the baseball, uh, with the baseball team now, so like they're all our homies, and like it's so fun, it's it's cool, it's like uh yeah, really, really nice, and it's so fun to be part of.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's very wholesome, like it means a lot to a lot of people.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we like being a part of that.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Do you find now that you've become friends with some of the players, do you find some commonalities between your experience as professional musicians versus professional athletes?
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, being gone all the time.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and and just also like because we play so much that you have to take care of yourself, and and same with them, they have to like take care of themselves and like learn how it should be spontaneous, like, especially because there's so much happening at these games, like you kind of got to be ready for anything, and like any idea goes, like they're yeah, they're also becoming they're kind of learning the showmanship side of it.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: We're kind of learning how to be part of a team as like a band.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like a really weird.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's crazy, but it's fun.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: But that's a fantastic synergy to have.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Now, you guys did both pre-game and post-game sets.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Did you approach those as completely different shows?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: The pre-show, I mean, we have a lot of like you know, the team comes on.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: Post show is kind of like us.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Post show is just us playing rock music and just crazy.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then the pregame is just like we're playing like you know, yeah, big quick.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so hot.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like these shows have been so crazy hot.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like like 100 degree, like 60 humidity, it's like it's crazy.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you're bouncing between these completely different worlds, like professional athletics and then major concert bills, like shows with 311 and dirty heads.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um when you're standing backstage looking at a venue like that, does it still hit you that this is the same band that started playing house shows?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the feeling kind of never goes away.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: You're kind of like when you go to a really big venue, you just remind yourself, like, damn, we started, yeah, playing house shows.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it is pretty we're pretty lucky to go to like play this massive arenas and stuff everywhere.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like we this looking up at like twins stadium, and you're like, I can't even see an individual person, it's just like little shapes, like it's just so massive, like you can't even wrap your venerated.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like oh my gosh, what's this gonna happen?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: I really never get seen, but I was kind of nervous last week.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, it's like it's stressful, especially like because you're all on wireless stuff.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: So if any of that goes, like you're just out there in front of like 50,000 people, like staring at you on the jumbo trauma.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, but it's fun, it's it makes people happy.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's I mean that's what we love doing, just thing putting smiles on people's faces.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it's cool.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: How about emotionally?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you were kids that started off in a program called Rock Nation.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you have a sense of imposter syndrome?
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, this is fucking happening.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how the hell did we get here?
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, yeah.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I feel like we haven't really I mean, people look at like our band and go, oh, you guys are like you guys made it, but like honestly, like we have not.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're like probably the smallest bands like you compare to others, like two people soft, but yeah.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's we're always just trying to get you know, do do our best and stuff, but it yeah, I mean it is kind of about you know, I do think about like if I was a little kid, like at that show, I'd be like, wow, like that those guys are playing guitar to you know, millions of people.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it is it is kind of a crazy.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean we've worked really, I mean, we worked hard to get here too.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we played like a million shows around the country, around the country, so it's uh yeah, very funny this run force to get away.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: But that's one of the things I like about you guys is you you say you haven't made it, but don't you feel that that kind of drives your work ethic a little bit?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Is like big buyer.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is true.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like what your definition of like made it is for sure.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like you know, you're thinking like, oh, like are you making like millions of dollars or something, or you're like I can still just making people like stoked, like you know, just playing in front of like a lot of people.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean having a fan of your fan.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm thinking it's world building too.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure you guys all have guys in your cell phones now that you may have looked up to at one time or another.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we do, and you're like, what the hell is this?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: This like I wouldn't have even thought five years ago this was possible, let alone right now.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, honestly, opening for 311.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Chad is like one of my favorite drummers growing up.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: He still is, and we just hang out with him now.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And like he hopped on stage in New Jersey and played his song with us, and I just like gave him the drumstick.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that was kind of a trip.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let's get into the music that you're actually building right now.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Deeper blue is the latest single.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Where did that song come from?
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And what does it represent about where sitting on Saturn is creatively right now?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: I just had that rate for a while.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had like the beginning riff like for a long time.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember I think it was in the van that I kind of like started.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I was they were literally just driving and you were like, I forget where you were, but somewhere.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was in the back, you saw my laptop, like coming up with stuff, and then um I kind of like wrote the format of it, and then we just came back to my house after tour and just recorded it.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: And it was, I don't know, it's kind of like a love song.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's definitely it's not being sad, it's the same in a weird way.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like I know how to put a word on it.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love like contradicting vibes sometimes.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, it's it's like uh I can't really, I don't know how to really describe it.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's just deep, it's just blue, deeper blue.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: So when somebody hears deeper blue alongside wallaby, do you think they're hearing the direction for the next record?
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: In a way, yeah.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think it has some some like more emotional songs on it at points.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's also some more fun, energetic ones.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we really wanted to go back to like our roots when and and record everything like super live live and real, real drums, like no auto-tune, real guitar, like speakers, everything like um, because just with all this like music coming.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Out, like you want to be as real as possible and just do it, but also on the other hand, doing it like that, you really have to make sure it's like recorded properly.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: So we've spent a long time like making sure that vocals are good, making sure like the guitars and drums are like what recorded properly.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's taken forever.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: You've just been doing like retracting and retracting over and over again.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why it's coming out in February, and not like it's pretty much done, but it's not it's on the center.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean, with you guys being on the SKP label and uh obviously the hexams involved with that.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Has Nick had some input on some of the creative direction and kind of been a North Star for you guys at points?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's definitely listened to some of our songs and been like, that's he's texted us like individually, like, oh, I love that one, I love this one.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, they they've really they've honestly been so helpful.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like they've helped us with like all of our like we don't even know anything about like publishing or anything.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Random stuff like that that we've never ever, yeah.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: They that people haven't even told us, honestly.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: So they've they've helped us out like tremendously.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Super nice fact.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: I think band Trevor 2 have also like 31 is definitely one of my favorite bands too, but also Trevor's so yeah, it's really we always pull inspiration from kind of their sound.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, also how they just don't really follow the rules too.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of that's kind of the this next album will sound like a little bit in a way.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, kind of all over the place in a good way, but it sounds because yeah, yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like it'll sound like cohesively sitting on Saturn, but you'll see elements of your different influences, is what you're saying.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So are there other bands that you're playing with that you're kind of taking inspiration from?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_01: And along this journey, like some new artists that you've been exposed to where you're like, wow, this is groundbreaking.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is kind of in league with where we would like to be.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Dang, that's a good question.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um I feel like when we're writing, we just kind of focus on at least me and we just kind of focus on our stuff, and we've been touring so much, I haven't really got a chance to like listen since near stuff.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Just we try to listen to as much as we can.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of like old, like I'd say like 70s music.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like we've been listening to a lot of yeah, we can listen to like some older stuff, but yeah, it's it's yeah.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Take hands up and everything, yeah.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Michael Phelps was that hardness, Michael Phelps.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's kind of weird because the nostalgia thing, the nostalgia bug the last couple of years has been absolutely insane, especially for late 90s and early 2000s bands.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, simple plan.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Simple plan, man.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: We love that uh right.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I just watched uh I just watched a podcast interview with Wes Borland from Limp Biscuit, and he was talking about he yeah, he was talking about how they're probably bigger now than they were at the peak of their career.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: They want like real stuff, you know, like they want like like pre-social media music.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good point.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good call out.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Pre-social media music.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: That is absolutely the truth.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: Cause you think about it like what MySpace took place in 2005 and ran until 2009, and then Facebook took the world over after MySpace went away, and then everything became algorithm driven.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't creative driven anymore.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: I also think like the idea, like the album, like it's everyone, it's you have to do singles nowadays, which is definitely a good idea.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's the best way to get your song out there, but to actually fall in love with a piece of music, one three-minute song, it's like I feel like people fall in love with an album.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's what's like all my favorite bands.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: I've liked the album, like you know, like the blue album or Nirvana or like for the Beatles album or Beatles album, like rubber soul, so stuff like that.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's never just been like, Oh, it's like one song, and then because if you just like one song, you're not gonna go see the whole artist.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you gotta so yeah, no, so I think the album, even though it's not a the best way to promote a song, it's it's like it's it's a weird like backwards thing.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to what to do, but I guess we just gotta release an album, which we are.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna I will have two more singles this year, most likely.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I I was just gonna go there because that is actually on my list of questions.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: You guys have two more singles coming this year.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you've kind of already said it, but what are your feelings about the new release strategy?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because it does feel like a lot of artists have given half the album away before the full album drops.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: We have we're we're gonna do four four singles, and then we want to give our fans a full album audio.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I think there's I think there's like or I think there's like 14 to 16 songs on it.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: So Kibbert.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a lot of songs that no one's ever heard.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: So that's amazing because I mean, from a marketing perspective, I do think the trickle out method works really well, but from a fan perspective, you want the whole shouldang.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: I want to sit down, I want to throw vinyl on, listen to it, start to finish, flip, flip the record over, listen to the other side, and like experience that.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's the ritualistic aspect of listening to an album that I think sometimes we lose because of the new marketing strategy.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: Another thing that is interesting, like even just with the live aspect, like we were talking to Jesse.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: He he was kept, he came up to us from Bananaball and he was like, play like I think it'd be really interesting if you guys played a new set like every night.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we and it's interesting because I'm like, okay, because there are some songs that we have, but we know like okay, it's always the ones that we want to play like every show, pretty much.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: But to play a new set every night, it's like I mean, the people that are yeah, you might have a bad set at one point, but like the people will want to come back to see it.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, what are they gonna play?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: What are they gonna play?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: I know 311 does that a lot, and then we love that because we're like, what are they gonna play tonight?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: And they'll play a deep cut that's like like that you've never heard them ever, but I'm like, oh my god, they're playing it.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like you actually like freak out because just to cut to a couple people, it means the world, and like I think that's an interesting like approach too.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna try it.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I mean, there's some deep cuts that we never play of our own song, but we don't learn it because you forgot how to play it.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: You should learn it and then like just break it out in like one of the shows.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I bet like someone in the audience is gonna be like, Yeah, so yeah.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: So is February the hard date for the release, or is that still just that's what we've been telling everyone?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna hold ourselves to it, I think.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Good, good.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Hold yourselves accountable.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: So when we're looking at a new record tentatively coming in February, how different is this album from looking past red flags?
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: What did you learn from making this record that changed the way you approached this?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Way less produced, damn it, production-wise.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh for looking past red flags, I was like, I want to make this so produced, I just want to go as crazy as I can.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: I want to find the line.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then now I think I found it, and I was like, we're gonna just go the opposite now direction.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like less produced for sure.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's more just guitar-based drums.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, so when you finish this record and listen to it front to back, what do you hope people understand about sitting on Saturn that they didn't understand before?
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: Just have questions.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Damn, you're a really good interviewer.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um I might be caught in the mic on this one.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: What do they I just know?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh just our taking out and just come through with the music.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: I just we're just like don't like to take ourselves too seriously.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of my songs just kind of reflect uh that which is kind of just fun and I don't even know.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of mix of different things, so a lot of people say that's a good bass tone.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll give it to respect.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'll spend one to change from it.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I don't think a band ever knows when they're in a career-defining moment for sure.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: But do you guys feel like you're kind of experiencing something transformational right now through when's this?
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: I guess you're you never know until you're like like washed up or I don't even know.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you're like I don't even I mean maybe it'll be with this next album.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I mean we would be down for that.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um we just want to keep going.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it's like your then your next album is only like as good as what you are now, I guess.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: So like we want to always push ourselves like to just be the best that we could possibly be and never like half-assed anything.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I don't know.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think creative periods and transformational career periods feel like a lot of hurry up and wait, like a lot of anticipation where you're just like, I know that next big thing is coming, I can't define it, I don't know what it looks like, but I feel like I'm on the verge of it, almost like this creative anxiety that you have.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: So do you guys experience that at all?
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, you definitely there's like self-doubt, there's all this stuff, but at the end of the day, I mean, if we like it and we're stoked on it, we listen to it, it's like that's great.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even honestly care.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I most of the stuff that we make is for just ourselves, like we'll be stoked.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes the songs we don't expect to do good are like the fan favorites, like never really know.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's been songs that we're like, this is the song we think everyone's like the least song in the whole record, and then people like like this one that we're just like spent like two seconds making.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right, you guys, yeah, you never know.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: You guys don't have to say which song it is, but is there a song that the fans like that you guys don't, but you're kind of obligated to play it?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't think so for me.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't I don't think we necessarily have a song that is.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: We've definitely, I mean, obviously, some of the songs we play every night.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean I actually do still like find them.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: I like kind of playing songs that we don't play every night, like more.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we would never listen to like ever our own music, but it's like playing it for people, it's you kind of gotta get out of like your own head of like this isn't isn't for me.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like these people here in the front are like are stoked, and I just want to make like them.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and especially these banana shows you've been doing this year.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like a 90% of a new crowd for us, so it's kind of cool playing with people first time.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: You you three have known each other ever since you were kids.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_01: You've already played stadiums with the Jonas brothers.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't even talk about that.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's huge.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: You toured with 311, played all these banana shows, and now you're building towards this other record while continuing to play these huge shows.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: If we sit down again in a year from now, what do you want to be able to tell me that happened between now and then?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: I want to say we did like a really epic headline tour of just like that we, you know, like yeah, like a club down, like where a lot of people showed up.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: They're like and everyone loves the album.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: They like the album, and and we can uh yeah, we can be happy.
• 33:12
  unknown: I don't know.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Not that we're not happy now, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean a little bit of the same stuff that we're already doing.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like we yeah, if we just we're doing the same thing that we're doing uh now.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: But bigger, but a little bit maybe a little bit bigger, maybe we're more Spotify listeners, yeah, then we'd be stoked.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: I think in the fitness world they call that 1% better every day.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: So what's the thing that sitting on Saturn hasn't done yet that you absolutely have to do?
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's on your list of non-negotiables.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Well, like a smoke list.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I think we really gotta go to like an international festival, like a quickly international festival.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: And we have played international, we played Mexico.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: But like really um like Urine, something epic, and Japan, your uh uh England, uh anywhere.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: We're actually we're gonna I can't say anything.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh but yeah, we're we're playing we're playing a show somewhere, but but uh like some festivals honestly the next move.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, just getting a song people like honestly sing along to that like they know of and they know of our band that would be like a more live stream, like more broad mainstream thing.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same point, like I feel like it's good to have a core core like audience, even if it's like a small, but there's people that really, really that you know on a personal level too.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, because talking about fans, we know some like we see them like when like oh we're in Orlando, we're in Atlanta, like we always see the same like that's so cool.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I meet these people all over the country.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's true.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's amazing.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, what's one thing each of you has learned about yourself through this whole process?
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, touring is like uh drink a lot of water, drink a lot of water.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, oh honestly, like back when we were first doing, I think I could speak for all of us.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Back when we were first, we did our first tour ever, we would like play a show, be on top of the world, then like have a few beers and get like four hours of sleep.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Nowadays, hell no, sleep is everything.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_00: I would like honestly, that's my numbers.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sleep, dude.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: If it wasn't such a better show to you, if it wasn't so important, you would have like evolved out of it by now.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like you've had like 300,000 years or whatever of just like having to sleep.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think touring teaches you how to it's important, how to like pace yourself, and yeah, it's like a it's like a marathon after it.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it's also just a different lifestyle, too.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, we miss like our family and and everybody at home.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's hard to like, you know, our friends will take us.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: They miss a lot, but but I mean, yeah.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's something we've we've learned.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, it's I mean it's it's yeah, but then also looking back on like what we just did last weekend.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's like like you kind of complain in the moment when it's like so hot out and you have a headache, and it's a 14-hour day, but it's like so epic looking back on it.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like Yeah, there yeah, it's it's weird.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was also just like after show after show after show, like you get like this adrenaline boost, and then when you're not playing a show, you're like, what am I what am I doing?
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like what you know.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: I really enjoy the element of your guys' story in this moment that you guys are in right now, because you you guys are really you're really humble, and you have a great sense of humility, and I think that's gonna take you as far as anything else that you can do, and and it's gonna keep that fire lit.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I I love that about you guys.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: My closing question people we know, just my closing question that I ask every guest that does the show, and it's because I enjoy their individual answers, and you guys could go one at a time, or you guys can answer as a group.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: But through your experiences and everything you guys have done, uh musically, life in general, what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today through your eyes?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Just be kind to like, I don't know, just kindness starts with like just like close.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's like oh kind of like small acts can lead to big tapes.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: That yeah, honestly, being nice to like everyone that you possibly can.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: Talking to everyone, talking to people, just because like a lot of times like people would come up to us and like there's a whole like status, like people think of like status things where they're like, Oh, I'm not gonna talk to this person, but like you never know, like honestly, because this is many people.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: One second to sign someone's yeah, like and and like someone will talk to you, and then like down the line, you're they're like, you know, like we've had people come up to us and say like they were gonna like honestly, you know, do something really bad to themselves, and that the reason why they didn't was because they heard a song or they we talked to them, or something like happened like that, and you never know, like honestly.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: So just talk to everyone as if they were like your friend until they're like mean, then then don't talk to them, but like but like yeah, just take everyone as you know, think of them as like a glass half full, like be positive in the situation, like if you're talking to them.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's what I would say.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you what, that mirrors something that the OG John Feldman of Goldfinger said to me last week.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: He said, one like lasts a second, but a t-shirt lasts a lifetime.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: And if you take that moment and you take that photo with a fan, or you take that time with that fan, you've made a fan for life.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: So honestly, that's true.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's true.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely, yeah.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: Talk to everyone.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, as if they were like your friend or so or somebody that you know is yeah, they never know if it's their first concert or how far they drove to see you.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, even at we've played in like I think we were in like Des Moines and it was a small, there was like under 50 people there.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was a smaller show, and like people drove like four hours of TSI.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the hell?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's crazy.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just caught it.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, guys, why don't you tell anybody that's listening to this or watching this where they can find you and your music online?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: Everywhere.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, find us on uh 5, Instagram.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: We do a lot of Instagram stuff.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm sitting on Saturn Band.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just sitting on Saturn Band.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Spotify, Apple Music, TikTok, TikTok, Saturn.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: Coming the show too.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're probably gonna announce some new shows.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: So yes, yes, I'm excited about that.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, sitting on Saturn Band on social media.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you do a search on Google if you're struggling finding these guys.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: I've really enjoyed talking to you guys and getting to know you guys.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for doing the show.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: If we play in in Nebraska, we're we last.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's actually one of the plays we haven't played.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll get we'll get you a lesson ticket.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Word, word.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Guys, next time we're town.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you guys so much for doing the show.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: The world's a much better place with you in it.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, man.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously.
• 40:16
  unknown: Okay.