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5-5 H2: Nick Harris Joins, Reading Your Texts · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Nick, Hello, thanks for joining us on the Beacon Plumbing
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  Speaker 1: hotline in Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you doing, guys? Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: We are well, Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, just an open ended question on what you saw
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  Speaker 1: at a Dante Fowler last year in his second go
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  Speaker 1: around with the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last year was just it was kind of a
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  Speaker 2: digression for everybody on that defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: The secondary wasn't particularly great. The ball was coming out
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  Speaker 2: quick from opposing quarterbacks, so the pass rush didn't even
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  Speaker 2: really get a lot of time to wind up and
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  Speaker 2: get into the backfield. But even with specific guys like
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  Speaker 2: Dante Fowler or Sam Williams or some of the others,
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  Speaker 2: the sack production just wasn't There was the pressure production there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and specifically for Dante Fowler, I think if you look
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  Speaker 2: at the pressure numbers, it was one of the best
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  Speaker 2: on the team when it came to know per pass
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  Speaker 2: rush attempt. But nevertheless, getting home was a problem for
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  Speaker 2: the entire defense last year and Dante Fowler certainly suffered
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  Speaker 2: from that.
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  Speaker 1: Was there ever an opportunity for him to come back
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  Speaker 1: or was it almost a clean slate once they traded
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  Speaker 1: I mean they traded Micah Parker, for heaven's sakes. Was
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  Speaker 1: it just a rebuild on the defense that wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to include Fowler at all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was more so about the new defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: Christian Parker, coming in and wanting to bring you know,
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  Speaker 2: who he wanted on that defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: Fowler didn't necessarily fit that. They wanted to get younger
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  Speaker 2: in the pass crush unit, and Fowler, you know, entering
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  Speaker 2: the wrong side of thirty already at thirty one, to
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  Speaker 2: be thirty two when the season starts didn't necessarily fit
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  Speaker 2: that mold. But there was no bad blood between him
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  Speaker 2: and Dallas and specifically enough to be able to come
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  Speaker 2: back for the second stint. But considering how things just
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  Speaker 2: didn't work out on any stretch of the imagination, on
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  Speaker 2: any part of that defense last year, it made sense
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  Speaker 2: to just kind of move on.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned his pressures are having to pull it up.
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  Speaker 4: You have thirty nine pressures. But to your point about
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  Speaker 4: the Sacs only had what three of them, you say
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  Speaker 4: that's bad luck, declining burst or having to do with
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  Speaker 4: something with that Dallas defense how they were using him
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  Speaker 4: or all three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it probably is a combination of the three.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think you saw a more fresh Dante
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  Speaker 2: Fowler Washington the year before, when he was able to
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  Speaker 2: post double digit sachell in the second time in his career,
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  Speaker 2: in my opinion, should have been a Pro Bowl of
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  Speaker 2: that year, but just missed out. He told me at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season as they were cleaning out
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  Speaker 2: their lockers the dance of the season ended, that he
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  Speaker 2: had been dealing with some injury stuff. A shoulder was
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  Speaker 2: really bothering him throughout the year, but he powered through it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think he was just more fresh in
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  Speaker 2: previous seasons than what we saw in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, like you mentioned the Dallas defense, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was just a disaster from organizationally up top with
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  Speaker 2: Matty Reflus all the way down to you know, even
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  Speaker 2: when they were trying to rotate guys in to just
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  Speaker 2: get some playing time. It was a disaster then too.
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  Speaker 2: So it's hard to really blame one guy for anything
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  Speaker 2: that went wrong on the defense last year, even if
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  Speaker 2: that one guy had a bad season. But here in
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  Speaker 2: Dante Fowler's case, that yeah, he was certainly not a
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  Speaker 2: benefactor of that.
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  Speaker 1: This is Nick Harris, the four Worth Star Telegram beat
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  Speaker 1: writer for the Dallas Cowboys, where Dante Fowler played last season.
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  Speaker 1: Fowler this morning agreeing to a one year contract worth
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  Speaker 1: intentionally up to five million dollars to be the seahawks
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  Speaker 1: new veteran edge rusher. Fowler played thirty two percent of
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  Speaker 1: the snaps last year, Nick, Did they use him only
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  Speaker 1: as a third down pass rusher? Those numbers suggest that, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So it was weird because you see those numbers and
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  Speaker 2: you would you would think he's more of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a pass a pass down type of guy, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what they used him in the first time. He was
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  Speaker 2: around in Dallas and in Washington the year prior. But
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  Speaker 2: he started to begin the season and when they when
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  Speaker 2: they traded Micah Parsons, I don't think they had a
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  Speaker 2: clear plan of who was really going to fill those
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  Speaker 2: snaps for that edge rusher room, and so Dante Fowler
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of snaps early in the season. It
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  Speaker 2: didn't quite work out, and so he pretty much got
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  Speaker 2: phased out in the middle of the year, and then
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  Speaker 2: toward the end of the year started to pick up
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  Speaker 2: some more snaps. So it wasn't necessarily like, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he just played pass downs throughout the year, although this
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  Speaker 2: snapco maybe indicate that it was more of like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: he had a feature role at one point than did
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  Speaker 2: not and then did again. It just kind of speaks
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  Speaker 2: to the disorganization that was that defense last year. But
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  Speaker 2: seeing Dante Fowler in the two seasons that he was
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas before in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: and then seeing what he did with Washington in twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: he is best used as a specialized pass down pass rusher.
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  Speaker 2: So if it's a second and long or third down,
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  Speaker 2: get him on the field with fresh legs and he'll
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  Speaker 2: be able to get to the quarterback, pin his ears
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  Speaker 2: back and do so. And I think that's how he's
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  Speaker 2: best to use at this point in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see any rundown run stopping early downs left
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  Speaker 1: to him?
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  Speaker 5: You're implying, no, Yeah, not really.
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  Speaker 2: He did have the tackle for loss production in Washington,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, look, maybe with a better interior defensive
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  Speaker 2: line in Seattle, with guys like Byron Murphy, I really
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  Speaker 2: do think that, you know, he could have an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to do so. But if I'm aiden dirty and I'm
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  Speaker 2: bringing him in. I'm expecting him to come in and
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  Speaker 2: just be a pass pass rush guy and if he
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  Speaker 2: brings any more then that's just icing on the cake.
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  Speaker 1: Ad And Dirty, of course, is the Seaoffs defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: who is the line coach for Dante Fowler and the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: He was also the outside linebackers coach and the Falcons
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  Speaker 1: when Fowler played with Atlanta, so he's got a history.
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  Speaker 1: So DOA's DeMarcus Lawrence, the Seahawks defensive end who signed
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  Speaker 1: last year out of eleven years from Dallas.
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  Speaker 5: This is Nick Harras.
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  Speaker 1: Sport Worth Star Telegram beat writer for the Cowboys on
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  Speaker 1: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline on ninety three point three KJR.
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  Speaker 4: With that, as Greg just mentioned aiden coach Fowler before,
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  Speaker 4: how much familiarity do you think will help helped him
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  Speaker 4: succeed in Dallas? Do you think will be that can
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  Speaker 4: transfer to him potentially bouncing back and see not that
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  Speaker 4: he can do what DeMarcus Lawrence did, but maybe you
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  Speaker 4: can just have some more production.
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  Speaker 5: Do you see that as a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw some consistency when when Dirty was his
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  Speaker 2: coach in Atlanta and in Dallas. And you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think also having DeMarcus Lawrence in that locker room will
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  Speaker 2: be big two. Those two connected quite a bit when
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  Speaker 2: they were in Dallas together, and so that that can
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  Speaker 2: certainly help out as well. I think this is what
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  Speaker 2: I saw the news come across this morning. My first
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  Speaker 2: thought was, this is a perfect fit. It's not only
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  Speaker 2: familiarity with you know what aid and dirt he requires
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  Speaker 2: out of his guys, but he's going to have really
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  Speaker 2: good guys around him and a really good pass rush
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  Speaker 2: unit around him, good interior defensive line, a good defense
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  Speaker 2: around him, and I think with good pieces around Dante Fowler,
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  Speaker 2: that's when he is best and he's able to pin
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  Speaker 2: his ears back and really, you know, find some isolated
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  Speaker 2: one on one pass rush opportunities to get to the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this is a wrong answer either way
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  Speaker 4: you go. But looking at this point in his career,
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  Speaker 4: is Fouler someone that you still need to game plan
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  Speaker 4: for or is this more you say, you know what,
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  Speaker 4: a complimentary piece with the defense that's already proven to
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  Speaker 4: be elite, you just add another piece that can help
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  Speaker 4: wreck offenses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more so the latter. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you're going to see you know, teams, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have to look at Dante Fowler and be like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: we got to face that guy this week. I think
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  Speaker 2: with all those defensive weapons of Seattle has, there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a lot more at the top of that list.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, you know, in Washington, he had a year
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  Speaker 2: that you know, I consider myself a Dante Fowler fan.
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  Speaker 2: I think he still does have some juice left in
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  Speaker 2: the tank. He surprised me in twenty twenty four with Washington.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, if he's been able to find that
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  Speaker 2: type of production early in the season, then you might
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  Speaker 2: see that reality from opposing teams.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Harris, what are your impressions of Brian Schottenheimer as
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  Speaker 1: a first time head coach the former Seahawks offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done a good job of building the culture
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  Speaker 2: first and foremost. I think that was an important piece
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  Speaker 2: that he wanted to establish last year. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: as an offensive play caller, was largely pretty successful last
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  Speaker 2: season up until about the last month of the year,
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  Speaker 2: and four of the final five games they couldn't find
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown in the second half of those games, and
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  Speaker 2: so I think adjustments are probably going to be the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing that Schottenheimer will have to work on going
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  Speaker 2: in the year two. But you know, you talk to
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  Speaker 2: everybody in the building and there's a lot of trust
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  Speaker 2: in Brian Schottenheimer. The Joneses have put a lot of
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  Speaker 2: trust in Brian Schottenheimer to make key decisions that you know,
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  Speaker 2: other head coaches in the past haven't necessarily had that power,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be a Jason Garrett or a Mike McCarthy,
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  Speaker 2: and Schottenheimer's really done a good job of commanding the room.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's a tough balance to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a culture, hey on year bro type of head coach,
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  Speaker 2: but still you know, require you know the most out
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  Speaker 2: of your players, and he's able to do that. I
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  Speaker 2: think he finds that balance pretty well. He knows when
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  Speaker 2: to tear into him, he knows when to let off,
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  Speaker 2: and it's by the wins and losses wouldn't necessarily show
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  Speaker 2: it because the defense was just so bad last year,
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  Speaker 2: and now that he has a little bit more control
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  Speaker 2: on that side of the ball, there's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more confidence that they will have a more successful year
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  Speaker 2: too than the seven nine and one reality that they faced.
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  Speaker 2: Last season.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Harris Fortworth Star Telegram beat writer of the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: here on ninety three point three KJRFM. We're spoiled out
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  Speaker 1: here in Seattle of the continuity of GMS and the
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  Speaker 1: lack of meddling of ownership that doesn't have anything to say.
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  Speaker 1: They let the football guys do the football stuff. Can
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  Speaker 1: you I've covered the Cowboys and the associated press and
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  Speaker 1: been in the locker room for Jerry Jones's postgame press
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  Speaker 1: conference scrums. Can you describe to people who don't know
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys dynamic of Jerry Jones and his all compassing
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  Speaker 1: influence as owner and how Brian Schottenheimer deals with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly unique. There's no team, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: in professional sports like the Dallas Cowboys because of Jerry Jones.
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  Speaker 2: He's always available. He's always talking, whether it be in
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  Speaker 2: a pre draft press conference, after games, on the radios
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday mornings, He's always out there getting his message out.
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  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, that's certainly a unique aspect of things.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the power behind the scenes is quite
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  Speaker 2: fascinating because I, at least from my standpoint before I
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  Speaker 2: started covering this team, I had the impression of, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: whatever Jerry Jones says, goes. It doesn't matter who gets
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  Speaker 2: in his way. He's going to be the one to
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  Speaker 2: make a decision. And you know, as I cover the team,
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  Speaker 2: I got to know more people behind the scenes and
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  Speaker 2: see how things work. It's fascinating because he more so
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  Speaker 2: puts a lot of trust in the voices around him.
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  Speaker 2: So whether it be a Brian Schottenheimer or their vice
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  Speaker 2: president of player personnel, Will McLay or even Stephen Jones
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  Speaker 2: has taken on a big voice in that room as well.
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  Speaker 2: They have some other guys in that front office too.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever there's a big decision that has to be made,
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  Speaker 2: he resorts to those voices, and if those voices vote
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  Speaker 2: him off of a certain decision, then he'll ride with it.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, I think that's a fascinating, you know,
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  Speaker 2: power dynamic that they've built, specifically over the course of
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  Speaker 2: the last decade since McLay has had a big voice
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  Speaker 2: in their personnel decisions. And yeah, it's it's certainly unique
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  Speaker 2: and it's a wild team to cover. Never a dull
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  Speaker 2: day around.
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  Speaker 3: Here, Yes, that's for sure. At the Star in Plano, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Harris fort Worth Star Telegram, thank you, sir, sister
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  Speaker 1: publication of mine.
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  Speaker 5: McClatchy.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever need anything Seahawks, please give me a ring.
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  Speaker 1: The News Tribune. Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, My McLatchy brother, and you'll have a
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  Speaker 2: good one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you as well.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Nick Nick Harris from Fort Worth, Texas Fort Worth Star
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  Speaker 1: Telegram Cowboys beat writers telling us, you look at the
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  Speaker 1: numbers of thirty two percent of snaps last year and
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  Speaker 1: you think, okay. Dante Fowler, aged thirty one, was a
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  Speaker 1: past rus specialist.
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  Speaker 5: He said no.
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  Speaker 1: He said Fowler was in every down linebacker art at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, and then once they traded
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  Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, they went to younger pass rushers and he
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  Speaker 1: was bosona, non grato. What was the words he used.
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  Speaker 1: He said he was pretty much phased out. Dante Foller
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  Speaker 1: was in the middle of the season, and by season's
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  Speaker 1: end he was starting to get playing time again. He
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  Speaker 1: ended up with only three sacks in seventeen games. Nick
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  Speaker 1: Harris telling us that Fowler told him at season's end
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  Speaker 1: that he was bothered all season by a shoulder injury
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  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four, as Nick Harris alluded to a
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  Speaker 1: career year ten and a half sacks for dan Quinn's
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  Speaker 1: commanders fourteen tackles for losses. But the question of every
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  Speaker 1: down or run stopping versus pass ros specialists is but
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  Speaker 1: pertinent one, Chris, because they still haven't filled if Fowler
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  Speaker 1: is only a pass rusher at age thirty two, they
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  Speaker 1: still and filled the boy. Mafe Roll Mafay was an
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  Speaker 1: early down guy and by the end, actually he started
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  Speaker 1: as an every down linebacker in the edge opposite Derek
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  Speaker 1: Hall when he got drafted. By the end, with the
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  Speaker 1: solid sub packages that Mike McDonald used, Mafay was often
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  Speaker 1: coming off the field in passing situation. So they haven't
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  Speaker 1: found to this signing to me, suggests they still haven't
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  Speaker 1: got an answer to early down run stopping outside linebacker
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  Speaker 1: edge rusher. Could it be Jared Ivy who was an
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  Speaker 1: undrafted rookie surprise guy, a very very impressive player in
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  Speaker 1: training camp last year. Here's the thing on Ivy, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: I think we may have mentioned it. He spent all
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  Speaker 1: of last season on the active roster. All they didn't
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  Speaker 1: put him subject to waivers to put him on the
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  Speaker 1: practice squad. They feared a team would either sign him
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  Speaker 1: in waivers or sign him to the active roster off
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  Speaker 1: the practice squad during so they kept him on the
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  Speaker 1: active roster. He didn't play at all. He would be
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  Speaker 1: an active for game days, yet he stayed on the roster.
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  Speaker 1: That's how much they thought of him. And Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: has mentioned Jared Ivy, the undrafted rookie free agent last year,
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  Speaker 1: as someone there looking to take a big step. Connor
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  Speaker 1: O'Toole is another one who has played edge outside linebacker
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  Speaker 1: who they were looking at, who played special teams for
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  Speaker 1: the team last year. But Chris, I don't think this
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  Speaker 1: signing of Fowler, it doesn't sound like this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be in every down run stopping. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a specialist pass rushing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's great, But Mike McDonald loves guys that
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  Speaker 4: can do two things, stop that run and get after
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback. So I think you're I think you're leaning
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  Speaker 4: onto something with Jared Ivy being Okay, you can earn
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  Speaker 4: it here. Yeah, we're bringing in this season veteran, but
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  Speaker 4: if he ends up doing the role, fine, he will
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  Speaker 4: get the snaps. But we're banking on you being able
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  Speaker 4: to do both, and you're gonna get most of the
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  Speaker 4: snap counts and on third downs, we will send in
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  Speaker 4: Dante Fowler and you're tending new Woesu and those guys
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  Speaker 4: to go try to get to the quarterback. But I
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  Speaker 4: think that's gonna be interesting, especially through training camp, how
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  Speaker 4: that performance has looked at.
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  Speaker 5: Is he getting to the quarterback preseason? Does he have
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  Speaker 5: any sacks?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think he'll get a lot of burn just
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  Speaker 4: based on that signing, Like, yeah, we're bringing in this veteran,
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  Speaker 4: but there's a reason why we kind of reshrated you
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  Speaker 4: last season in terms of seeing the field. But now
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  Speaker 4: this is your opportunity, especially with what's his name, Boye
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  Speaker 4: Mafey now signing with the Bengals, So its opportunity for
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  Speaker 4: the young guy to step up. And because they didn't
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  Speaker 4: draft anyone, so you were wondering, Okay, who are they
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  Speaker 4: gonna get. They gotta get someone because the edge is
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  Speaker 4: still kind of iffy. But I think now this veteran
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  Speaker 4: presence doesn't it's not force full. It's more so like
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  Speaker 4: here's a guy ahead of you, but you have a
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  Speaker 4: chance to win out versus ye're we're not gonna get anybody,
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  Speaker 4: so it's you or nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Good good point on Nuosu because now McDonald with Fowler
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  Speaker 1: could put Fowler, Duosu, DeMarcus Lawrence, Leonard Williams, Byron Murphy
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  Speaker 1: as your front on past rush and then have Nick
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  Speaker 1: even Worry to blitz or Devin Witherspoon to blitz.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about multiplicity and that with Mike
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  Speaker 1: McDonald's sets, but now you have veteran edge rushers who
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  Speaker 1: can come in to be a specialized role. Nuosu and
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  Speaker 1: Fowler potentially be your edge guys. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Derek calls still on the team, and he's in a
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: contract year. He's gonna be motivated to get numbers, to
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: get paid.
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  Speaker 4: He saw his friend boye go out there and get
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: if he can get twenty and let me get five
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: sacks this season, so you can bet the incentive for
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: him to be even better this year just went up.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: So this defense is gonna be hungry. You got guys
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: that are like, oh, this contract year. As you mentioned
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Mike Morris who also plays around. He is he plays
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: anywhere minver Donald and says, hey, go out and get him.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: He's gonna be looking forward to some opportunities right behind
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Leonard Williams. So this D line is is looking strong,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: but there are a few question marks with Jared Ivy.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Obviously Connor O'Toole. You're wondering if those dudes are ready
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: for this opportunity to get more snaps and more repetitions,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: because I remember the whole conversation about Byron Murphy sixteenth
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: pick few years back. He doesn't get that many snaps. Man,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: not to mention he missed an entire month with that
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: hamstring injury. But now you're seeing with the snaps that
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: he's gotten, he's been dominant, beating double teams with his signature,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: getting on one knee and separation and getting after the
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: quarterback and stuffing the run.
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: He has been gold.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: So maybe this opportunity for a Jared Ivy to show
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: us how good and quick he is off the edge
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: or his power, and then obviously with Connor or'toole, can
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: he show us some tools in the toolbox that can
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: get after the quarterback and stop the run. Something that
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald loves from his edge guys is to be
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: able to do two things, not just be not just
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: be one dimensionalized. Oh yeah, he just get to the quarterback.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: That's not where you're not gonna be on the Seahawks
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: roster much long, for long. If that's all you can do,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: you gotta be able to get to the quarterback and
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: stop the run.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Four nine four five one that the Koma Dodge text line.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: You can tell us what you are. You excited, but
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Dante Fowler or the Seahawks edge rushing problem solved, void solved.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have problem, but they have a depth need
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: after not drafting one four nine four five on your
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: reaction to that, we'll read back your text next. There
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: are a lot lot capitalized responses too, from parents, from umpires, referees,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: from coaches. I'm hearing from active high school coaches in
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the Puget Sound that are telling us it's driving them out.
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  Speaker 5: That's next.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: On ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back, Greg Bell,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Christopher Ky with you on ninety three point three KJRFM
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: on a foggy morning in Seattle, Hope, it's a great
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Tuesday wherever you might be listening in the iHeartRadio app
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: or ninety three KJER dot com. We have had a
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: ongoing discussion this morning about youth sports, the entitlement of
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: parents driving coaches, very qualified, very long time coaches out
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of the business and the trickle down effects of that. Chris,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we have had topics that have gotten a lot of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: texts since we restarted this show a couple few weeks ago,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: but none like this. This is the most text messages
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: on one subject we've gotten, maybe since even the twenty
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: twenty four iteration.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: We had some food things that went crazy. Food always wins.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: But this is important for us.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Stop.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of people that are listening have kids or
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: people that have it's you can relate to it. Everyone
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: understands is we were all kids at once, as you
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: ask me. But yeah, let's get going with it, all right.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: This is from the three six. So the parents don't
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: want coaches to coach their kids hard, and that is
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: part of the issue.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, that was my issue.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: Makes sense yelling at my child.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: First time their kid had ever been corrected in their lives.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Some of them, Yeah, that's that's a problem. That's huge
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: if you've never been. Yeah, let's continue because, like you said,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: we got a bunch from the four two five. August
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: is the worst for travel baseball, as all the big
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: teams in the area are recruiting off each other's rosters.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: It's another thing stilling kids and players.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: That's not cool. From the five oh five, Greg, where
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: is that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: At Man Alabama? That's just a guess.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Parents should have no say in athletics. They don't realize
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: that it's so unlikely their children will make it to
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the collegiate level or even the pros. I don't want
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: to eliminate them, but there has to be a level
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: of understanding between parents and coaches, I think, and that
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: just I mean, that's just common sense. If I give
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Greg my child to coach, I'm not gonna go to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Greg and be like, yo, I need to have my
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: son doing A or daughter doing a B and c
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Greg's coaching.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: He has it if he had. If Greg has something
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: for me, he'll let me know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: How does that sound. I think that's where it should be.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Trust the coaches to do their part.
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  Speaker 3: Parents, parents, coaches, coach. Hello from New Mexico. By the way,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: thanks for the text.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of parents from the four to two five
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: think that their kids are superstars and they are going
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: to be pros. Well, most of them will never even
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: get close. It's sad to see parents doing this with
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: their kids. And that was Michael Bealey's point. It's just
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and you can do that for each sport. Obviously, the
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: windows bigger in certain sports like soccer or give you
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: another sport word making it professionals much bigger window than
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: NHL or MLB soccer the only one that's a lot bigger,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: or actually baseball is a pretty big windows so.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Well, they get drafted out of high school in baseball
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the four to two five. Our daughter is in eighth grade.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: She plays club soccer and school track. My wife and
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I have often gotten home after games and meets over
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the years that have had the conversations on who do
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: these parents think they are? Their kids will never be college,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: let alone pro, and they act as if they will.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I think John Smoltz talked about this, along with having
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: your kids play multiple sports, which is another issue leading
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to this type of thinking. That's another point, the specialization
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of kids. You talk to pro and mainly pro but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: some college coaches too, They rather have players play multiple sports.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: But the revenue driven youth sports industry doesn't want that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: They want your kid to funnel all your parents' dollars
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: into that sport so that those coaches can get paid
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and those club directors can get paid, and you play
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: all around au basketball, and you play all around summer leagues,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: spring league baseball, and fall ball.
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  Speaker 3: Play sports. Man.
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  Speaker 5: I played four sports, you played three.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, play sports your kid try everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: And if you like something, as you get older, you
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: can train your focus into something that you enjoy more.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll used to say he wanted players. He wanted
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: football players who've been at the foul line with one
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: second left in a basketball game.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: He wanted that experience.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He wanted a baseball player who had the dexterity in
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the hand eye coordination and who could, with bases loaded,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: two out in the bottom of the ninth, face a
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: pitch and perform.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: He wanted those experiences.
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  Speaker 4: That's true from the three to six oh limit comes
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: from parents who think that they should have been pros
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: in sports and was ruined because the high school had
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: a better player. You see at all the time, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: it's actually very sickning. This is coming from a high
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: school coach.
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  Speaker 5: Three to six ozh.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter's basketball coach in small town in North Dakota
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: just finished third place in the state championship Class B
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Coach of the Year in that state. Coach there for
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: years had to leave for his sanity after a quote
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: star player transferred in the vile things her mom would
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: text the coach and behind the scenes messages to turn
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: other parents against him were absolutely unbelievable, very unfortunate, as
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: he really was a great coach and the girls loved
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: playing for him. Yeah, who's it about? Is about the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: players who loved their coach. Was about the parents who
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: have an agenda against the coach or agenda for their child,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: an outside often and a realistic agenda. My daughter is
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: two oh six. My daughter did junior tennis the way.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: The main focus was be at a Division one program.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: What nobody ever talked about was with that there are
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: almost no full scholarships in that, as you say, as
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a college game dominated by foreign players.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: But an even bigger.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Tennis is big in that too foreign recruits.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But an even bigger subject that nobody talked about was
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it even if you played D one, you would not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: be able to choose a difficult major the sciences because
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: of time demands. Thus playing a Division one was basically
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a path to a career in coaching. Great if that's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: your goal, but it can be a disappointment if your
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: goals are different vocations. Our daughter opted for a D
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: three at Swarthmore for academics. Lots of kids do that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: use sports to get academic elite D three schools. Yes,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: my son did that. My daughter is doing that right now.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: My daughter is a D three rower at the Coast
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Guard Academy. She didn't go to Coast Guard Academy because
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of athletics. My son ended up playing. He was signed
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a D two letter of intent back when they gave
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: scholarships at Division two soccer and then went to Division
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: three because he wanted a more rounded educational and social
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: life experience. They were doing at Division two six am practices,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: off season practice, six am captains practices, spring league for soccer,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: travel on a Tuesday for a game in Texas.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: From the two six I coach baseball for twelve years
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: between two schools, the parents dumping thousands of dollars and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: select ball and personal instruction with the hope of a
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Division one Division two scholarship. When that dream evaporates because
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the kid isn't very good despite all the money invested,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: guess where they come.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: To blame the coach.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: That's a good point too.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Another thing is, yes, parents, you need to have a
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: serious conversation with your youth with your child, like, yo,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: the chances of you doing this are slim to none.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: You need to be the best, if not one of
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: the best. If you're gonna get a D one scholarship,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: you can't be four third fiddle. You have to be
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: the person, the girl, the guy. So if you're not
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: being honest with your child, then yeah, the expectation is
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: gonna fall to then the parent, who then now blames
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: the coach, But in all actuality, is actually the parent
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: not being honest with their kid about how to have
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that conversation, like, Hey, if you want to be this,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to be tier one.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: You can't be tier two, three, six zero.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Not trying to be too argumentative, but if you say
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: coaches should coach and parents should parent, then maybe trying
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to build character is something the parents should be focusing on.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, but it's not happening. Yeah it should, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: parents aren't teaching. They parents are afraid to correct their students,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: their kids. They don't want to the accountability of cleaning
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: your own room, of getting somewhere on time. The first
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: day I coached varsity sports, varsity baseball, I had a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: player we had we had two rules, but one rule.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: The main rule was beyond time period. We started practice
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes after school ended, and the school was across
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the street from the practice field.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: You could walk backwards or crawl and get.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: There on time if you just tried right twenty minutes,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: unless you had something after school and they tell me
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and text me, okay, fine, but by and large you're
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: there on time because you got twenty minutes. First day
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of practice, first year I was coaching kid walks up
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to practice ten minutes late.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Walks.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: First of all, in life, if you're late, we all
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: know you should probably start running when you're late to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: show you give a darn walks up to practice, Hey,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: what's up?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: We ran for ninety minutes there, I got you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Cut him? I couldn't cut him.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I wanted to.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I couldn't cut him, I asked, So we ran for
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: ninety minutes the first practice. The entire team, why they
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: do that? I wanted the team to clean him up.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted the team to be mad that they were
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: bent over wanting to throw up because of a guy
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: who just wandered on to practice field late. Why has
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that accountability falling to me? For sixteen seventeen year How
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: do those kids be sixteen seventeen years old to get
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to that point.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: That's the issue, being at home, not being held accountable
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: for anything anything.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Where's my dinner, where's my video games?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm brought brushing here, but she is.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: From the eight to four to three shout out to
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: my dad for never pressuring me in any sport. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: chose good, always had fun and competed. That's what it's about.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: And if you happen to be really good that can
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: come to you. That will be there for you, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you have to also want it. It can't be Greg saying, oh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I want my daughter to go row, but I only
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: want her to do it, and she's like, yeah, but
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: I want to go do this. That's not what it's about.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: You should allow your child to dictate what they want
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: to do, and if they become really good at it
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and they want to focus more on it, they can
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: come to you and have that discussion and you guys.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Can go forward with it. But it shouldn't be.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: The opposite what you're seeing a lot of in all
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: sports across America for youth.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: One from the two of six who said his son
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: pitched on the us A national team at the LBC
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Latin American Baseball Classic in the Dominican Republic and was anyway,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: there's a long backstory to that. But what he saw
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: pair of the teams in Latin America is that quote,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: these club teams are ruining high school sports in America
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: for everybody involved, and the parents pay the money for
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the club teams. Yes, total entitlement. Great topic, glad you're
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: talking about it. Last one for me from the two
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: five three. Let's not just put all of this on
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the parents. Some coaches are also the problem.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: My child wasn't allowed to play on his high school
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: team golf team because we weren't part of the local
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: country club. Kent went high school in Meridian Valley Country Club.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: This wasn't a parent thing. This is a clear school
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and coaching, absolutely right. But the main topic of it
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: today his parents taking advantage. Not to discredit what you're
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: talking about, though, because that's that's very important.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Two oh six Sorry, two oh six youth sports make
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: me sick and discussed it. I no longer coach youth
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: sports because of the parents. The issues all started when
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: junior high and middle schools stop their sports programs. This
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: allowed select and premier leagues to grab a hold of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the youth. The amount of money they charge has changed
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the way parents think about sports. This leads parents into
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: dumping money into private coaching and training. They tell the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: parents to lead them to getting college scholarships. The parents
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: are now entitled in their own minds use sports are destroyed.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It is very sad. It's a good summation of that dynamic.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The three to six oh I had a parent asked
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: for a meeting with my athletic directors as a coach
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in a school in the area. He was mad that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't consult as kid after a match. I found
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: out later from talking to my assistant that the kid
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: was upset. He was trying to get me fired so
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: they could The parents could then take over with a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: coach they wanted, something none of the players wanted to do.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Once again the parents getting involved. It was just what
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the whole story started with with the gig Harbor girls
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: High school coach with you talked about with John Manley.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: If you missed that conversation about the girls basketball coach
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: went nineteen and six and was one point from making
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the state tournament State finals into the comodome, go to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: ninety three KGr dot com or the iHeartRadio app you download,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: or interview with John Manley of the News Tribune, who
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: broke the story last night that that fired coach is
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: now unfired. Michelle Hackett as back as the girls basketball coach.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: After meddling parents didn't get their way, the district overruled
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the parents, and now Michelle Hackett is the coach again.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Four two five says you can't sit in the stands
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of bleachers anywhere and not hear parents griping.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: AU travel, ball, soccer, club, tennis, golf, all of it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Football is somewhat immune, but now they have seven on
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: seven leagues in the spring, and they have seven on
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: seven camps that these guys go to. There's another thing
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: for football. Used to be that football is a little
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: bit immune of this club stuff. But now football, if
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they think they're gonna get a college scholarship, ops, they
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: will quit the sport they used to play in the spring,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: track baseball because they want.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: To go to a seven on seven camp.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: And I deal with a lot of that in terms
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: of basketball with some kids of the communities that I
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: work at because they they get they see they see
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: one tunnel and I'm like, buddy, have you looked up
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: the percentages for you to even make a like.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Where do you rank?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Now? Oh?
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: I don't rank any So what are you talking about?
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: You're not even you don't even start, and you want
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: to do what unless you become six six tomorrow. I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: not trying to poo poo your dream, but this ain't happening.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: We come back.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna find the statistics, the latest updated statistics. It
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: has probably gotten much lower with the transfer portal of
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: youth sports high school players who become college athletes at all.
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  Speaker 1: Up next, though, Chris Crawford is again pinch hitting for
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  Speaker 1: Ian Furnesso's out today, We're gonna talk to Chris Talk
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  Speaker 1: on crosstalk to end our show before Chris takes over
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  Speaker 1: from twelve to three on ninety three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick, I wanted to give you these The NCAA
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  Speaker 1: did a participation study of high school sports to college
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and they found that over
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  Speaker 1: eight million students play high school sports in the United States.
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  Speaker 3: But check this out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's break it down by sports over one million high
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  Speaker 1: school players in football, Only seventy three thousand make college
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  Speaker 1: football at any level NAIA Junior College Division one two
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  Speaker 1: or three seventy three thousand out of a million boys
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  Speaker 1: basketball five hundred and forty thousand high school players, how
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  Speaker 1: many go to play college sports?
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  Speaker 5: Eighteen thousand. I'm gonna say about twenty thousand, eighteen thousand
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  Speaker 5: out of more than half a million. You know, the
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  Speaker 5: kid would tell you could be me me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually yeah, all right now I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Going to me.
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  Speaker 5: Are you even on your Are you even on varsity?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: I'm on JV.
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  Speaker 5: And what year are you? I'm a junior. Good luck, bud,
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  Speaker 5: best of luck to you. I'm my own trying to
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  Speaker 5: be mean.
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  Speaker 1: Girls' basketball four hundred and thirty thousand girls basketball players
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  Speaker 1: in high school. Only sixteen thousand play the college level.
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  Speaker 1: And that is with wow women's sports who have a
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  Speaker 1: title nine. They have more opportunities offen than men soccer
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  Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifty thousand high school players. I think
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  Speaker 1: eight and thirty thousand of them are in this area.
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  Speaker 1: Boys or girls combined, eight hundred and fifty thousand. How
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  Speaker 1: many go by college fifty thousand play out of eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand, that i'd be more baseball half
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  Speaker 1: a million high school players, how many go play professor
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  Speaker 1: or college baseball.
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  Speaker 3: At any level?
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  Speaker 1: Thirty k thirty four thousand out of half a million
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  Speaker 1: softball three hundred and sixty five thousand high school players
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  Speaker 1: with how many are playing in college seventeen thirty one thousand. Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: that's actually the highest of any group, and the highest
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  Speaker 1: is seven percent.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you might want to play volleyball.
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  Speaker 3: Then they didn't book down volleyball. But that's a good point.
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  Speaker 1: In all, only about six out of every one hundred
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  Speaker 1: high school athletes play any level of college varsity any
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  Speaker 1: level we're talking junior college, NAIA Division one, two or three.
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  Speaker 1: So this entitlement that parents have, they ought to be
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  Speaker 1: looking up these numbers going uh oh, why am I?
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  Speaker 1: Why am I paying all this money to my club
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  Speaker 1: soccer coach when I only have a spot.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta look at the reality, like, if you're not
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  Speaker 4: in any sports you play, if you are not the
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  Speaker 4: guy or gal, college is just an education thing for you.
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  Speaker 5: It's not oh I could probably play. No. No, if
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  Speaker 5: you want to be on the bench, sure you might
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  Speaker 5: have a possibility.
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  Speaker 6: Can you contextualize this conversation for me because I'm interested.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it has been an ongoing two hours of talking
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  Speaker 1: about the girls high school basketball coach at gig Harbor
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  Speaker 1: High School was fired two weeks ago after her only season,
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  Speaker 1: going nineteen and six and missing the state championship.
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  Speaker 3: By one point.
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  Speaker 5: So what was the reasoning for firing? The parents didn't
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  Speaker 5: like her, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And the athletic department said, Okay, we're replacing her, and
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  Speaker 1: the district last night stepped in and said, no, we're not,
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  Speaker 1: We're keeping her. You didn't fall pro call blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, since she was fired, a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: parents and more to the point, students, the athletes who
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  Speaker 1: actually worked with the coach like her and said why
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  Speaker 1: did you fire her? And it spawned a bigger conversation
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  Speaker 1: from John Manley the News Tribune about the entitlement of
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  Speaker 1: parents making decisions on coaching.
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  Speaker 6: There's even a bigger conversation regarding parents involving in kids
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  Speaker 6: sports that at the actual sporting events, I've seen some
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  Speaker 6: stuff about getting into fights with the referees and you know,
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  Speaker 6: all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about that I'm a high school football referee
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  Speaker 1: as well. I am glad that there is a sideline
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  Speaker 1: between me and the stands, unlike basketball where in this
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  Speaker 1: area there have been referees assaulted physically assaulted by parents
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  Speaker 1: at an eighth grade game.
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  Speaker 3: That happened a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Remember that that was down in it Was it Auburn
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  Speaker 5: or Kent?
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember, but I remember the story. That's inexcuseable, man,
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  Speaker 6: It's just the It's pathetic, is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, one million high school football players seventy three thousand,
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  Speaker 1: make it, almost one million soccer players fifty thousand, make it?
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  Speaker 5: Come on, sounds aol right. Your club program is not
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  Speaker 5: giving you that information.
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  Speaker 4: You can get to the I love the text in
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  Speaker 4: college from the four to two five. You dream crushers
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  Speaker 4: laughing out loud. Those numbers don't matter to parents. They
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  Speaker 4: all think their kids are gonna go somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Keep Zell, keep selling those Zelle's payments from venmo Are
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  Speaker 1: club dues. I'll tell you this, We'll get your scholarship,
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  Speaker 1: even though only six percent of you are gonna get one.
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  Speaker 4: My kid going run track, play baseball, soccer if he
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  Speaker 4: or she finds that she loves soccer more. She can
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  Speaker 4: play soccer when she gets to high school, and she says,
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking this series. We will then take the procedure
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  Speaker 4: to see are you good enough? Do I need to
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  Speaker 4: spend money on training? And if it works out for
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  Speaker 4: you can go play at college. That's amazing. If you
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  Speaker 4: play all four years and you had a good time
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  Speaker 4: doing it. But you're gonna go to go kooks w SU,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine too. I don't want to force any or
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  Speaker 4: my child to do anything they don't want to do.
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  Speaker 3: I hope you.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you hold I will because my parents did,
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  Speaker 1: and I will say I was guilty of this sometimes
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  Speaker 1: as a parent that stands too.
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  Speaker 5: I was at guilty of cheering or guilty.
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  Speaker 1: Of guilty of being too overbearing and too noisy and
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  Speaker 1: involved in I didn't talking to my kid in a
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  Speaker 1: non constructive way about the coaching decisions.
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  Speaker 5: I get that I did not have good car rides home.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Not everyone has one hundred percent record with Yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: don't think mine wasn't great, But I think you learned
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  Speaker 6: from that.
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  Speaker 5: I did, so that's I wish point. But I don't
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  Speaker 5: have more kids so I talk to the wife. That's
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  Speaker 5: the last thing we need now.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to summarize all this by saying it
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  Speaker 1: can be summarizing forwards, parents, parent, coaches, coach Andrews, you,
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  Speaker 1: how are you going to do a show with Chris
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  Speaker 1: Crawford next when Arsenal and Athletico are playing a second
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  Speaker 1: leg the semi finals of.
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  Speaker 6: The champions Someone has called me the master of multitasking
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  Speaker 6: before because I have massive ADHD, so I go back
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  Speaker 6: and forth between multiple tasks. So I've done it a lot.
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  Speaker 6: It's what makes me somewhat successful at my job.
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  Speaker 1: So Chris is off campus because he lives seven hour
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  Speaker 1: drive from here and you are friendly to him. He's
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  Speaker 1: filling in today free and faness what he got going
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  Speaker 1: on here?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll talk some Mariners after a big win last night.
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  Speaker 6: We got We're gonna listen to some of the interviews
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  Speaker 6: that we heard on Softing Dick Show yesterday from three
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  Speaker 6: Mariners players. We'll see which ones that Chris wants to
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  Speaker 6: chat about. Emerson Hancock, Ryan Wu probably will get to
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  Speaker 6: and kind of react to that because they were fantastic conversations.
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  Speaker 6: If you didn't hear him yesterday and then we also
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  Speaker 6: were going to talk to Joe Shean of the Joshian Newsletter,
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  Speaker 6: a very excellent analytic eye in terms of the national
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  Speaker 6: perspective around baseball. So I'm really excited for.
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  Speaker 3: That he might have something to say about John Stir because.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good point. He's in the New York area too,
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  Speaker 5: so yeah, in.
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  Speaker 3: The New York area. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: That's Anderson, Harris, Jessman McIntyre and Chris Crawford pinch hitting
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  Speaker 1: again for Ian Forness. They're up next, Greg Bell the
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  Speaker 1: News to Be and Chris very thank you. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: setting a recent record on our show for text messages
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  Speaker 1: and your input. It's really interesting. I'm we're they're still
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  Speaker 1: rolling out about this subject. Maybe we have to revisit
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  Speaker 1: it again at another time. But if you missed our
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  Speaker 1: show and our big conversation about this issue, go to
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  Speaker 1: nine through three KJR dot com or the iHeartRadio app. Chris,
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  Speaker 1: Andrews and Jessmen are up next. Greg and Chris say
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  Speaker 1: thank you, bye bye.