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Sen. Slotkin Urges ‘Signature’ Prosecutions to Deter Future Trump Staffers · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stool next
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Speaker 1: to Greg Karambas of Radio America and Jim Garrity of
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Speaker 1: National Review.
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Speaker 2: Three martinis coming up.
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Speaker 3: So glad to have you with us for the Tuesday
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Speaker 3: edition of the Three Martini Lunch. Jim Garrity not in today,
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Speaker 3: but we're also very happy to have in his place
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Speaker 3: former Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who now heads up
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Speaker 3: the Election Transparency Initiative. And Ken, it's always great to
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Speaker 3: have you. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to be with you again.
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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to cover a lot of big stories today.
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Speaker 3: We're going to talk a little bit about Virginia politics
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Speaker 3: and specifically the three, I think a lot of people
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Speaker 3: would consider radical amendments that voters in Virginia are already
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Speaker 3: facing because early voting started over a month ago now.
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Speaker 3: We'll also be talking about election integrity based on something
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Speaker 3: we heard from conservative commentator Larry O'Connor. But we're going
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Speaker 3: to start with comments made recently, I think maybe late
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Speaker 3: last week, by Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin. She was at
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Speaker 3: the University of Chicago and she was talking about and
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Speaker 3: was asked about what will it look like if there
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Speaker 3: is a Democratic majority? You know, you have the power
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Speaker 3: of investigation and subpoena and all this stuff. So what
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Speaker 3: are you going to do? And here is what she
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Speaker 3: said Democrats were going to do.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I want to look at these signature cases and not
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Speaker 2: just focus on the president, but on the people who
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Speaker 2: enabled him. I want young people coming out of school
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Speaker 2: to say, should I go work for the Trump administration? Like,
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Speaker 2: that sounds fun. I might get an opportunity. I want
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Speaker 2: them to be like, Lord, that might be buying myself
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Speaker 2: a ton of problems that I don't want. And so
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Speaker 2: let me avoid participating in that. I want that deterrence message.
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Speaker 3: So basically what she said was she wanted a couple
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Speaker 3: of pieces of signature Democratic legislation and a couple of
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Speaker 3: signature investigations, not necessarily going after everything. She mentioned the
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Speaker 3: East Wing and the ballroom. But then she got a
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Speaker 3: lot of blowback, not surprisingly, by suggesting that she wants
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Speaker 3: to scare young people out of serving in the Trump administration. So,
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Speaker 3: of course, to clear that up, she goes on MSNOW
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Speaker 3: with Nicole Wallace. She now accuses the right of intimidating her.
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Speaker 2: Also to kind of like try to play, you know,
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Speaker 2: reverse Uno or whatever on you and push back. And
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Speaker 2: I think the goal, by the way, is to intimidate.
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Speaker 2: The goal is to create so many threats against you,
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Speaker 2: your family and your staff that you shut up. My
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Speaker 2: staff has been doxed today. I mean, it has been
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Speaker 2: a very tough day for us purposely. They're doing that purposely.
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Speaker 2: And I think people need to understand that these are
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Speaker 2: kind of the authoritarian tactics that are used across the world,
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Speaker 2: not just by this president, but by people who understand
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Speaker 2: that threats of physical violence get their opponents to shut up.
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Speaker 3: And so what's the real reason she's being attacked? It's
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Speaker 3: not what she said at the University of Chicago. It's,
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Speaker 3: of course, because she's a woman.
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Speaker 2: I do think there's something about being a woman and
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Speaker 2: criticizing them and calling them out on that corruption that
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Speaker 2: really gets under their skin, obviously, or they wouldn't respond,
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Speaker 2: you know, remember the Second Amendment sweetheart or all that crap.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's it's more that it's not speaking
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Speaker 2: to them. It's speaking to the people who are potentially
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Speaker 2: going to be asked to follow illegal requests.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: It's speaking directly to the people who are on the
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Speaker 2: receiving end of this administration.
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Speaker 3: So, Ken, what do you make of the initial statement
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Speaker 3: and the attempted cleanup?
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Speaker 1: I think the intended cleanup is pure projection. Look, this
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Speaker 1: is someone who has never criticized Antifa and their violence
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Speaker 1: all over the country. 150 years ago, the Ku Klux
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Speaker 1: Klan was the violent domestic terrorist wing of the Democrat Party.
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Speaker 1: It was by its standards very successful. It was very
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Speaker 1: sad for this country, especially when Reconstruction ended. So now
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Speaker 1: 150 years later, somewhat less violent, nonetheless, with the countenance
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Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party, now it's Antifa and the like.
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Speaker 1: They have a violent wing of their party. The Republican
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Speaker 1: Party does not have that. These people are terrorists, and
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Speaker 1: we listen to Alyssa Slotkin tell us that she has
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Speaker 1: every intention to use the former CIA employee, that she
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Speaker 1: has the intention to use every tool of government to
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Speaker 1: intimidate young people from going into Republican administrations. They say
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Speaker 1: Trump because he's the scariest. But look, when Nancy Pelosi
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Speaker 1: put the magnetometers up on the House floor in 2021,
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Speaker 1: she wasn't directing them at Trump. She was saying Republican
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Speaker 1: congressmen were a dangerous threat. Ooh. And so this is
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Speaker 1: more of the same thing. They use Trump because everybody
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Speaker 1: knows who he is and he drums up their base.
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Speaker 1: But the fact is they aim this at all of
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Speaker 1: us on the right, all of us. And I know this.
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Speaker 1: I've had this aimed at me. And we've seen lots
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Speaker 1: of other people dragged into courts, me as a witness,
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Speaker 1: others as subjects of investigation and so forth. They are
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Speaker 1: tyrannical communists. Those two go together. They can't be separated.
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Speaker 1: And communism never succeeds unless which is why it always devolves,
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons it always devolves to tyranny, because
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Speaker 1: all they have left is force. And they are telling
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Speaker 1: us that's where they're going. She is a, quote, moderate
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Speaker 1: Democrat by today's standards, largely because Joe Manchin is gone.
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Speaker 1: So what a moderate Democrat is has moved so far
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Speaker 1: to the left, we can't even see them over the horizon.
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Speaker 1: She is insane and is a perfectly good representative of
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Speaker 1: her party.
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Speaker 3: Joe Manchin's actually campaigning for Susan Collins this week up
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Speaker 3: in Maine. What do you make of her?
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Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no.
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Speaker 3: That's not what I was saying. I was just saying
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Speaker 3: I want people to be careful. You might not want
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Speaker 3: to take a job because they're asking you to do
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Speaker 3: a bunch of illegal stuff. I wasn't talking about intimidating
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Speaker 3: people en masse.
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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of you showing the clip. So everybody
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Speaker 1: listening to you and me talk about it. can draw
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Speaker 1: their own conclusions. And by the way, everyone should draw
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Speaker 1: their own conclusions. I think you and I have thought
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Speaker 1: about this a lot, so it's valuable for people to
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Speaker 1: listen in. But, you know, back to Dietrich Bonhoeffer, you
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Speaker 1: need to think for yourself and draw your own conclusions.
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Speaker 1: Any reasonable person who listened to Alyssa Slotkin knows exactly
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Speaker 1: what she meant and intended. And the idea that she
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Speaker 1: goes back afterwards was, and says, well, I didn't really
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Speaker 1: mean that. What it really means is, oh, I didn't
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Speaker 1: mean to be that honest. I didn't mean to be
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Speaker 1: that forthright. I didn't mean to show you the playbook.
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Speaker 1: But look, this isn't new. They started this under Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: I know how much they hate Trump, but they started
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Speaker 1: this under Joe Biden. And they use the power of
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Speaker 1: government abusively, collusively, and it wasn't... To obtain justice. It
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Speaker 1: was to intimidate political opponents, all the while doing things
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Speaker 1: like opening the border and letting criminals out. So the
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Speaker 1: average person was made less safe and their political opponents
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Speaker 1: were targeted. They literally tried to keep Donald Trump off
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Speaker 1: the ballot. I mean, this is banana republic stuff. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And of course, she was one of the ones who
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Speaker 3: said a while back, she was among those who urged
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Speaker 3: members of the military not to obey what she considered
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Speaker 3: illegal orders. Never gave an example of what that would be. No,
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Speaker 3: she doesn't.
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Speaker 1: Illegal means something she doesn't like. That's all she means
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Speaker 1: by illegal. She doesn't actually mean in violation of the law.
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Speaker 1: I worked for Donald Trump for a good year and
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Speaker 1: a half or more. in the Department of Homeland Security
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Speaker 1: in a rough year, 2020, when Antifa was burning cities
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Speaker 1: all over the place and Democrats were letting them do it.
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Speaker 1: He never gave us an illegal order. He never gave
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Speaker 1: us anything that came close to an illegal order. They
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Speaker 1: just like to talk about this stuff, especially close to elections.
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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, in a moment, we'll get a little
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Speaker 3: bit closer to where we live in Virginia with some
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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, Election Day, of course, coming up now
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Speaker 3: in just a couple of weeks. In Virginia, though, we've
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Speaker 3: been voting since mid-September for some reason. But there are,
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Speaker 3: in addition to a U.S. Senate race and the congressional races,
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Speaker 3: it's a pretty simple ballot. But beyond that, there are
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Speaker 3: three constitutional amendments passed by the Democratic majority in the
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Speaker 3: state assembly. And you have talked about these at length,
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Speaker 3: but let's go through them. The first one is about
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Speaker 3: basically abortion on demand all the way to the moment
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Speaker 3: of birth. But here's the actual language. Should the Constitution
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Speaker 3: of Virginia be amended to, one, protect the freedom to
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Speaker 3: make personal decisions about prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care?
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Speaker 1: Bullshit alert. Bullshit alert.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Tell me what language are they using to— First
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Speaker 3: of all, it's.
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Speaker 1: Not an abortion amendment. It's a sex amendment that covers abortion.
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Speaker 1: The amendment itself is too long to read. But they
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Speaker 1: have gotten in the habit in the last two years
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Speaker 1: of making incredible political ballot language. Totally inaccurate. So we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about the Second Amendment also, which reverses
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Speaker 1: our old marriage amendment to say that, interestingly, anybody of
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Speaker 1: any gender or sex... I'm not sure. I'd love to
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Speaker 1: have them explain the difference between those two or what
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Speaker 1: they mean by each of them. There that says adults,
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Speaker 1: any two adults of any gender or sex or race
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Speaker 1: or anything else can get married. This is obviously just
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Speaker 1: political because there's nothing getting in the way of any
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Speaker 1: two adults getting married in light of the Oberfeld ruling
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Speaker 1: 11 years ago. Just like abortion, Virginia has had rising
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Speaker 1: abortion rates for years and years. We have the highest
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Speaker 1: numbers of abortions going on. It's not like the pro-abortion
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Speaker 1: people are in any danger. This is all political virtue signaling,
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Speaker 1: but they have written it so badly. They will get
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Speaker 1: rid of statutory rape in Virginia. They make the decision
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Speaker 1: maker on all things sex the girl having the sex.
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Speaker 1: So if it's voluntary by her, even if she's 12
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Speaker 1: years old, you can't prosecute anyone. And I love the
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Speaker 1: ads they're running in Virginia. Maybe you've seen them. Well,
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Speaker 1: this decision should be between a doctor and their patient. Well,
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Speaker 1: this amendment allows tow truck drivers to do abortions. You
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Speaker 1: don't need a doctor anywhere nearby. It allows school personnel
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Speaker 1: to take children for abortions without parental consent or notification.
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Speaker 1: Parents never have to know. They can also take them
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Speaker 1: for transgender surgeries. Parents never have to know. And it
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Speaker 1: insulates those people from any punishment at work or in
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Speaker 1: law from the parents. It's incredible. It's really very poorly drafted.
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Speaker 1: And the other side will say, oh, no, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: get rid of parental consent. But One of our state senators,
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Speaker 1: Tara Durant, proposed an amendment that would clarify that it
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Speaker 1: didn't get rid of parental consent, and the Democrats defeated
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Speaker 1: that amendment. So they're going to be hard-pressed to say
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Speaker 1: this doesn't wipe parents out of the decisions, it doesn't
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Speaker 1: give full autonomy, a word they really love in there,
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Speaker 1: to any girl of any age, any age. So they
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Speaker 1: pass this Because at the same time they passed that
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Speaker 1: marriage amendment where they referenced adults. Well, here they intentionally
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Speaker 1: don't reference adults. There's no designation of age. So it's
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Speaker 1: full autonomy for the girl involved, even if it's a
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Speaker 1: 40-year-old man having sex with a 10-year-old girl. Wiping out
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Speaker 1: statutory rape. Wipes it out. And, of course, it blows
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Speaker 1: the doors off when any kind of abortion can be had.
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Speaker 1: It's up to the moment of birth. No meaningful restrictions.
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Speaker 1: They say there are restrictions, but doctors on their own
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Speaker 1: side say anybody can get a note for that. So
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Speaker 1: there's no restriction at all at any point right up
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Speaker 1: to the moment of birth. And we're doing things like
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Speaker 1: getting rid of parental consent, getting rid of statutory rape.
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Speaker 3: What's the language in there, Ken? I mean, obviously they're
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Speaker 3: not going to say that in the amendment, but, you know,
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Speaker 3: it talks about prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, birth control, abortion,
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Speaker 3: miscarriage management, fertility care, protect doctors and nurses.
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Speaker 1: Anything associated with reproduction, which is sex. And they create
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Speaker 1: what they call a strict liability, not a strict liability standard, um,
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Speaker 1: the strict scrutiny standard, and then they go and define
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Speaker 1: it in the amendment. Now, if you and I were
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Speaker 1: talking about strict scrutiny, for the non-lawyers out there, strict
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Speaker 1: scrutiny is a thing in law. It's one of the
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Speaker 1: three levels of scrutiny for constitutional review, typically, and it's
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Speaker 1: the highest one. But then they go and define what
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Speaker 1: it means and And it doesn't mean what strict scrutiny
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Speaker 1: means in the existing law. They literally give complete individual
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Speaker 1: autonomy to the woman involved or girl involved. And so
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Speaker 1: they turn judgment over to that person. So as long
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Speaker 1: as the sex is consensual, then the age is irrelevant.
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Speaker 1: a long-standing legal standard. Really, they borrowed the name and
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Speaker 1: made their own. There is no other legal anything, constitutional
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Speaker 1: amendment in any other state, any law in any other state,
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Speaker 1: that has this standard. They invented it just for this purpose.
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Speaker 1: And it is sweeping. It is incredibly sweeping. And this
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Speaker 1: is going to be very, very damaging if and when
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Speaker 1: it passes. And its odds are painfully very good because
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Speaker 1: there isn't much of an oppositional campaign, largely probably because
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Speaker 1: the abortion side has been winning these referenda all over
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Speaker 1: the country, no matter what the language says, except in Florida.
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Speaker 1: And Virginia is not a particularly red state, so it
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Speaker 1: doesn't look like a ripe target to defeat this. I
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Speaker 1: know the Catholic Church, I'm Catholic, is motivated against it
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Speaker 1: and has been talking about it from the pulpits, but
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Speaker 1: only about a sixth of the state is Catholic. So
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a lot of real engagement
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Speaker 1: by other churches. That's really the only way this thing
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Speaker 1: is going to go down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I've had the same frustration that I
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Speaker 3: hadn't seen any organized opposition to ballot initiatives one and
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Speaker 3: two or three, which we'll talk about in a second.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's no state House or Senate races this
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Speaker 3: year in Virginia. There's a handful, maybe two or three
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Speaker 3: competitive congressional races. The Senate race, unfortunately, probably won't be
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Speaker 3: that competitive. So they should have money to spend driving
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Speaker 3: this message home. And then I came back from vacation
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Speaker 3: over this weekend. I saw my first yard sign in
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Speaker 3: opposition to Props 1 and 2. And the line on
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Speaker 3: top of the sign says, say yes to truth, vote
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Speaker 3: no on 1 and 2. And I'm thinking, Well, I'm
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Speaker 3: glad to see the sign, but the word yes should
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Speaker 3: never be on a sign where you're trying to get
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Speaker 3: people to vote no. So I'm not sure what happened there.
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Speaker 1: Well, what happened, it's churches who do things and they
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Speaker 1: think in very deep philosophical ways, not in political ways.
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Speaker 1: Vote no on one, you know, protect truth. But like
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Speaker 1: you said, the word yes should never be on there.
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Speaker 1: They are intentionally making this ballot measure confusing. And to
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Speaker 1: add to the confusion is to use the word yes
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Speaker 1: in anything discussing it. Exactly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, protect truth, stand up for truth, defend truth, whatever
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Speaker 3: you want to say, but leave the word yes out
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Speaker 3: of there. Okay, the third one is not related. to
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Speaker 3: abortion or marriage or sex. This says, this is about
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Speaker 3: giving felons the right to vote. Should the Constitution of
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Speaker 3: Virginia be amended to provide for the fundamental right to
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Speaker 3: vote in the Commonwealth to revise the qualifications of voters
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Speaker 3: so that a person convicted of a felony is not
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Speaker 3: entitled to vote during his period of incarceration, but is
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Speaker 3: automatically invested with the right to vote upon release from incarceration?
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Speaker 3: and to update the existing prohibition on voting by persons
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Speaker 3: found to be mentally incompetent to instead apply to persons
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Speaker 3: who have been found to lack the capacity to understand
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Speaker 3: the act of voting. So, I mean, this has been
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Speaker 3: a big deal for Abigail Spanberger. Terry McAuliffe was big
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Speaker 3: as governor on restoring felon voting rights. What's going on here?
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Speaker 1: So, I will at least say that one can discern
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Speaker 1: the guts of this actual amendment from their ballot language.
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Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha!
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Speaker 1: And what it is, is the minute you walk out
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Speaker 1: of prison, you get your voting rights back. You don't
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Speaker 1: have to finish probation. You don't have to pay your
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Speaker 1: court costs and restitution to the victims. The minute you
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Speaker 1: walk out the door, and of course, if you have
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Speaker 1: a felony with no jail time, you don't even lose
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Speaker 1: your voting rights. So... I will say Virginia is one
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Speaker 1: of the toughest on felon voting rights in the country.
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Speaker 1: Losing your voting rights is part of the punishment for
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Speaker 1: a felony in Virginia. That is a permanent impairment. The
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Speaker 1: governor can restore those under law right now, and Spanberger
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Speaker 1: is sort of doing it by auto pen, including for
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Speaker 1: dead people. That's a whole different story. But this would
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Speaker 1: eliminate the governor's role in judging each case. And automatically, really,
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Speaker 1: it flips Virginia from being tough on felons and voting
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Speaker 1: rights to making it almost irrelevant. The only thing left
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Speaker 1: would be time in prison. And literally, when you cross
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Speaker 1: the threshold, you get your voting rights back.
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Speaker 3: And so one of the things we've seen, of course,
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Speaker 3: is that Spanberger, at least the parole board that she
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Speaker 3: appointed everybody on, is issuing commutations or parole requests. at
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Speaker 3: a much, much more aggressive clip than the Elkin administration.
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Speaker 1: And for really gruesomely violent people.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, so all these people are going
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Speaker 3: to be able to vote as soon as they walk
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Speaker 3: out of the joint. Now, are these people also eligible
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Speaker 3: for jury duty once they're eligible to vote?
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's where you, when you're on the
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Speaker 1: voter rolls, that's... where jury duty is pulled from. Right.
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Speaker 1: So you can have some murderer who hasn't even finished
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Speaker 1: his probation or even paid restitution to his victims could
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Speaker 1: be sitting on a jury.
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Speaker 3: Gosh, you know, you would hope the prosecutors would flag
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Speaker 3: those people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm not worried about the prosecutors. I'm worried
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Speaker 1: about judges picked by this same General Assembly. Will they
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Speaker 1: accept the strike for cause?
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a whole other.
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Speaker 1: You know, our judiciary is sliding into the political left
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Speaker 1: as our General Assembly here in Virginia. It's not just
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Speaker 1: run by Democrats. It's run by Marxists. They're insane. And
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Speaker 1: a lot of the judges are following suit because Virginia
20:35
Speaker 1: is one of two states, along with South Carolina, where
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Speaker 1: the General Assembly elects the judges. And the judiciary is responding.
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Speaker 1: We're already seeing it at the Virginia Supreme Court level. Thankfully,
20:47
Speaker 1: it's still four or three Republican selections right now. Actually,
20:51
Speaker 1: it's three, four, but one of them is reasonable. And
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Speaker 1: even the judges, Democrat Supreme Court Justice on there, who
21:04
Speaker 1: I thought was reasonable, we watched this year flip and
21:08
Speaker 1: go pure political. So next year, next February, when the
21:12
Speaker 1: last Republican, not the last Republican, when the fourth Republican
21:17
Speaker 1: goes off of this seven-person panel bench, when they appoint
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Speaker 1: a new Marxist, it'll be four, three Marxists starting February
21:27
Speaker 1: of next year in the Virginia Supreme Court. And Really,
21:30
Speaker 1: there'll be no controls left within the state.
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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about Virginia a little bit more in
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Speaker 3: our chaser. Up next, we'll be talking about the integrity
21:38
Speaker 3: of our elections. But in the meantime, let's talk about,
21:41
Speaker 3: since we're just talking about abortion, the right way to
21:44
Speaker 3: act on this issue. If you could reach a scared
21:46
Speaker 3: pregnant woman before the abortion industry did, would you? And
21:49
Speaker 3: what if in the exact moment she was searching for
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21:55
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21:58
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22:02
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Speaker 3: normally want the baby, but they feel like they can't. Well,
22:10
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22:14
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Speaker 3: slash martini and give today. Well, Ken, as you know,
22:54
Speaker 3: and as we mentioned a couple of times already, early
22:56
Speaker 3: voting started really early in Virginia and some other states.
22:59
Speaker 3: But there's early voting in a lot of different states
23:01
Speaker 3: around the country at some point before the actual election day. And,
23:07
Speaker 3: you know, election integrity is something Republicans have wanted for
23:09
Speaker 3: a long time. Republicans, at least a lot of them,
23:12
Speaker 3: tried to push the Save America Act up on Capitol Hill,
23:15
Speaker 3: never got through the Senate. And now these anecdotes are
23:18
Speaker 3: coming out about voter rolls, which should come as no surprise.
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Speaker 3: Larry O'Connor, who's on Salem, and he's also on WMAL
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Speaker 3: here in the Washington, D.C. area. He's on a lot
23:29
Speaker 3: of different things. Larry's busy. Used to live in California,
23:32
Speaker 3: now lives outside of Washington, D.C., and had this little
23:35
Speaker 3: revelation for us a few days ago.
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Speaker 4: That is a mail-in ballot. It's the official ballot for
23:40
Speaker 4: Los Angeles County. This is the ballot that everybody in
23:42
Speaker 4: California gets, and specifically in Los Angeles County. This is
23:45
Speaker 4: the ballot you get. And see the name there? See
23:47
Speaker 4: the name?
23:48
Speaker 3: Can we make that bigger?
23:49
Speaker 1: Look at the name.
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Speaker 3: It's Lawrence O'Connor.
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Speaker 4: That's right. My name's Lawrence, but you can, in fact,
23:54
Speaker 4: call me Larry. Yeah, my name's Lawrence O'Connor. And you
23:58
Speaker 4: can see the date, Election Day, November of 2026. That
24:01
Speaker 4: is my ballot under my name in the county of
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Speaker 4: Los Angeles for the election coming up in two weeks,
24:08
Speaker 4: three weeks. I don't live in California. I don't live
24:11
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. I don't live west of the Mississippi.
24:15
Speaker 4: In fact, the closest ocean to me is just an
24:17
Speaker 4: hour away. It's the Atlantic. I live off the Chesapeake
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Speaker 4: Bay in Maryland, just outside of Washington, D.C. In fact,
24:25
Speaker 4: I've lived over here. for 15 years.
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Speaker 3: Ken, I wish Larry's example was unique. It is not.
24:34
Speaker 3: I'm sure there are others in the California system. I
24:37
Speaker 3: grew up in Michigan. The last time I voted in Michigan,
24:40
Speaker 3: John Engler was on the ballot. Yet, in 2020, when
24:46
Speaker 3: COVID hit, Jocelyn Benson, the secretary of state in Michigan,
24:49
Speaker 3: who is now running for governor, She has had no
24:51
Speaker 3: interest in ever cleaning up the rolls. And apparently no
24:54
Speaker 3: one else in the Secretary of State's positions in the
24:56
Speaker 3: years before her has either. My mother got an absentee
25:01
Speaker 3: ballot because they sent it to everybody. Absentee ballot request
25:03
Speaker 3: for me who hadn't lived in Michigan since the 1990s.
25:06
Speaker 3: That's how horrible some of these states are. So how
25:08
Speaker 3: much confidence can we have not only in the rolls, but,
25:11
Speaker 3: you know, these states, you know, doing their job.
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Speaker 1: So in the rolls, very little. Two percent of Americans
25:19
Speaker 1: move every month. And with very rare exceptions, we don't
25:25
Speaker 1: call our departing local election office and tell them, hey,
25:31
Speaker 1: I'm moving out of your jurisdiction. Frankly, in Democrat areas,
25:35
Speaker 1: even if you do, they don't take your name off
25:37
Speaker 1: the rolls. You could call them from the mortuary and
25:40
Speaker 1: they don't take your name off the rolls. So dirty
25:45
Speaker 1: voter rolls are a big deal. Combine it with what
25:49
Speaker 1: Larry just showed us. Now, in Michigan, they sent you
25:53
Speaker 1: a ballot request form. Right. So there's at least another step.
25:58
Speaker 1: That's what they do in Virginia as well. California, in
26:00
Speaker 1: that envelope, was an actual ballot, just like Oregon and
26:06
Speaker 1: Washington and Colorado. And by the way, red Utah. Arizona
26:11
Speaker 1: used to do this, but they fixed it. It's one
26:13
Speaker 1: of the things we at the Election Transparency Initiative worked
26:16
Speaker 1: very hard on is to get rid of these automatic
26:19
Speaker 1: mail outs because, and we've got reporters, I just talked
26:24
Speaker 1: to a reporter at the Daily Signal yesterday who got
26:27
Speaker 1: four of these, a little bit different. She lives in
26:31
Speaker 1: the District of Columbia. She got four ballots for the
26:35
Speaker 1: primary this summer, none of them having her name on it,
26:42
Speaker 1: and two of them having names for which You know
26:46
Speaker 1: how you move into a place and the people who
26:48
Speaker 1: live there before you, you get their mail for a while.
26:50
Speaker 1: She had never even seen two of these names before.
26:55
Speaker 1: That's how long it had been since they had been there.
26:58
Speaker 1: She'd gotten none of their other mail. Only the election
27:01
Speaker 1: office was screwing up so much. Literally no other entity
27:05
Speaker 1: in America was still mailing these people at that address,
27:08
Speaker 1: but they were. And it happened again this fall. She
27:11
Speaker 1: got four more ballots. And what she is getting are
27:15
Speaker 1: actual ballots. She can open those envelopes, vote them, put
27:22
Speaker 1: them back in, mail them in. And because no ID
27:26
Speaker 1: is required, like California, like Oregon, like Washington, all the
27:29
Speaker 1: states I mentioned, um, those ballots go right in the
27:32
Speaker 1: ballot box. They're literally spraying ballots in a lot of
27:37
Speaker 1: these particularly Western states, um, And now as we head
27:42
Speaker 1: northeast of where you and I live, they're getting California
27:46
Speaker 1: lunatic-wise as well. I will say that Colorado and California
27:51
Speaker 1: have voter ID and citizenship, voter roll, cleanup, referenda on
27:56
Speaker 1: the ballots. But they also have put it on with
27:59
Speaker 1: the kind of ballot language you and I were talking
28:01
Speaker 1: about with respect to the Virginia amendments. It's wildly deceiving.
28:06
Speaker 1: It says things like, do you want to deny people
28:08
Speaker 1: the right to vote who fill in the blank? and
28:13
Speaker 1: really what it is is voter ID and citizenship, which
28:16
Speaker 1: has over 70% support from Democrat voters, according to that
28:21
Speaker 1: right-wing nutjob institution, CNN.
28:28
Speaker 3: Well, the other thing California, of course, has is legalized
28:30
Speaker 3: ballot harvesting. So not only do they send out every ballot,
28:34
Speaker 3: no matter whether you ask for it or not, anyone
28:36
Speaker 3: can turn it in, right?
28:37
Speaker 1: Anyone can turn it in. And I mean, they just...
28:41
Speaker 1: The news this week out of California was the woman
28:44
Speaker 1: who registered her dog to vote and then actually voted
28:48
Speaker 1: the dog in several elections. They dropped the charges against
28:52
Speaker 1: her in Orange County. And so I'm trying to get
28:57
Speaker 1: an op-ed out there about even your dead. And they
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Speaker 1: mailed the dog a ballot after it was dead.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you couldn't.
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Speaker 1: If I made this stuff up, no one would believe it.
29:07
Speaker 1: But in California, it's called governance.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she was initially charged with five felonies because she
29:15
Speaker 3: registered her dog to vote, but was dismissed after pleading
29:17
Speaker 3: guilty and paying for anti-voter fraud billboards featuring her own pet.
29:22
Speaker 3: That's quite the plea bargain, Ken. I don't know if
29:24
Speaker 3: you would have made that same deal. I'm guessing not.
29:27
Speaker 1: No. No, not if Alyssa Slotkin has her way.
29:32
Speaker 3: All right. When we come back, what we should have
29:34
Speaker 3: learned a year ago. All right, Ken, last 60 seconds
29:42
Speaker 3: or so here. Virginia last year, we mentioned Abigail Spanberger,
29:46
Speaker 3: the very far left Virginia Assembly, but the whole campaign
29:50
Speaker 3: last year was moderation and affordability. We're going to deal
29:53
Speaker 3: with your your grocery prices and everything else. And that's
29:57
Speaker 3: all we hear now from whether it's Abdul El-Sayed every
30:00
Speaker 3: time he gets asked about anything else. We want to
30:01
Speaker 3: talk about grocery prices and gas prices. That sounds like
30:06
Speaker 3: it's in some states, at least if you look at
30:08
Speaker 3: the poll numbers, that it's working. But when you look
30:11
Speaker 3: at what the Virginia Democrats did after that message succeeded
30:15
Speaker 3: for them last year, I feel like that should be
30:18
Speaker 3: a canary in the coal mine. But A, Republicans aren't
30:20
Speaker 3: pointing to that very much. And B, I I guess
30:23
Speaker 3: some people are hard learners.
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Speaker 1: I think both of those are true. And the beauty
30:29
Speaker 1: of state governance is that it provides an immediate laboratory
30:35
Speaker 1: of democracy. So you can point to Abigail Spanberger's first
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Speaker 1: year when combating El-Sayed, because he's saying the same thing
30:45
Speaker 1: she said last year. And what has she done? She
30:47
Speaker 1: put us back in the greenhouse gas baloney, phony baloney.
30:51
Speaker 1: that guarantees higher electricity prices. It's already driving our electricity
30:56
Speaker 1: prices up, which drives business out. And by the way,
31:00
Speaker 1: something we don't always talk about, there are three things
31:03
Speaker 1: you can't escape, food, housing, and energy, right? You just
31:08
Speaker 1: can't escape those costs. And they take a bigger proportion
31:12
Speaker 1: of poor people's budgets. So when Democrats do things like
31:17
Speaker 1: drive up electricity prices, they are proportionally hurting poor people
31:22
Speaker 1: the worst. And that is immoral. It is immoral. And
31:26
Speaker 1: we should never leave out that aspect of their policies. Yes,
31:31
Speaker 1: they do terrible harm to the economy. Yes, it hurts
31:34
Speaker 1: everyone's affordability. But we, the free marketers, are the defenders
31:40
Speaker 1: of the poor. And they don't care about the poor.
31:43
Speaker 1: And they'll dump right on them, all while telling them
31:46
Speaker 1: what good friends they are and writing them welfare checks
31:49
Speaker 1: and doing all those other kinds of dependency things that
31:52
Speaker 1: communists love to do.
31:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, the promises never match the reality. That's what we
31:57
Speaker 3: should have learned a long time ago. So, Ken, great
32:00
Speaker 3: to have you with us today. Thanks so much for
32:02
Speaker 3: your time today. We really appreciate it.
32:03
Speaker 1: Good to be with you.
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Speaker 3: Ken Cuccinelli is the former Attorney General of Virginia. He's
32:07
Speaker 3: also the head of the Election Transparency Initiative. Jim Garrity
32:11
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