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FACE Act and How It Definitely Matters · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Start your day with Wes. You're listening to The West
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  Speaker 1: Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday Morning, third Day, February m West. Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Day after Groundhog Day always kind of feels like it
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  Speaker 2: should be Groundhog Day again or Groundhog Day again, right.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you, you know, had a great groundhog Day.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you celebrated six more weeks of winter according
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  Speaker 2: to the you know, the groundhog. I know there's regional
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  Speaker 2: ones everybody talks about. We have one in Georgia, but
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  Speaker 2: the one that they use for the purposes of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the national forecasting is the one in Pennsylvania, the famous
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  Speaker 2: one from the movie. And six more weeks. Look, I
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  Speaker 2: can handle six more weeks of cool weather. I could
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  Speaker 2: handle six more weeks of winter, just not not quite
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  Speaker 2: as cold as it's been. I know we're about to
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  Speaker 2: get a little bit of a break from it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's coming and we're kind of already starting to get
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  Speaker 2: I just know that the gas built needs a break.
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  Speaker 2: I just know that the heat has just been running
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  Speaker 2: and running and running. And I think back to when
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  Speaker 2: we first got that first dip in the fall of
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  Speaker 2: cool weather, and suddenly it was like we have to
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  Speaker 2: turn the heat on and our heater was not firing properly,
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  Speaker 2: and then we were able to have to you know,
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  Speaker 2: had to call and we were able to get that
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  Speaker 2: sorted out. And thankfully we have not had to endure
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  Speaker 2: any any kind of extreme cold weather with it. I
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  Speaker 2: know there's people that don't have heat and we haven't
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  Speaker 2: had to deal with that, and I think about that
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  Speaker 2: so and I just want to remind you the people
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  Speaker 2: like further north that like to make fun of us
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  Speaker 2: because we can't handle the cold weather. We're not used
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  Speaker 2: to this, and we're not in parts of the country
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  Speaker 2: that's been really like crazy cold and the amount of
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  Speaker 2: snow in the Carolinas and things like. Just know that
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  Speaker 2: when we struggle with that, and then in parts of
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  Speaker 2: the far north that are laughing at us and like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, you got you gotta function like you guys
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  Speaker 2: don't do great in the heat. We handle the heat,
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  Speaker 2: we endure the heat. We we function in the heat,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes you guys up there can't really function in
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  Speaker 2: the heat. That's all I want to point out. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's only fair that we remember that from time
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  Speaker 2: to time. I think that's that's important. One more quick thing,
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  Speaker 2: just following up on something that we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: and I mentioned it a couple of times, the passing
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  Speaker 2: of Brian Waters, my friend, former colleague, co worker boss
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  Speaker 2: at one point, gathering yesterday for his funeral and visitation,
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  Speaker 2: and it was a collection of former co workers together
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  Speaker 2: all to remember Brian, and it was like, it's a
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  Speaker 2: surreal thing. You know, people talk about this a lot
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to funerals, where you know, sometimes family members,
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  Speaker 2: distant cousins and things all come together and they don't
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  Speaker 2: see each other very often, but a funeral happens and
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  Speaker 2: then they do, and then they see each other and
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  Speaker 2: they're there for support and they have those moments where anything,
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  Speaker 2: why don't we get together more often? And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a shame it takes something like this to get
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  Speaker 2: everybody together. And we sort of had one of those
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  Speaker 2: yesterday with a lot of folks in the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the radio community over the years all getting together. Some
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  Speaker 2: of us never work together, but we knew each other,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not from you know, actually working in the building together,
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  Speaker 2: but we knew each other and then some of course
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  Speaker 2: did and I was one of the ones that kind
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  Speaker 2: of spanned a period of Brian's time where there were
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  Speaker 2: people that were finishing their time and when I was there,
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  Speaker 2: and then some that were just getting started when I
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  Speaker 2: was there, and so I was kind of one of
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  Speaker 2: the people in that little middle ground. There were certainly
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  Speaker 2: he worked at a different company after he left the
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  Speaker 2: company that I worked for, so there was there were
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  Speaker 2: people that he worked with there that were at this
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  Speaker 2: particular gathering. And most of them I knew in some capacity,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I said, whether I just you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe had worked with them or you know, a different company,
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  Speaker 2: or you know new of them just at events and things.
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  Speaker 2: It's an interesting gathering of people. And it was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that familiarity people that you hadn't seen in twenty years
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  Speaker 2: in some cases, and it was really good to see them.
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  Speaker 2: And it was really good to see them all coming
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  Speaker 2: together for him and to acknowledge him what he meant
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  Speaker 2: to everyone as a as a boss, as a coworker,
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  Speaker 2: as a colleague, as a friend, all of this things.
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  Speaker 2: It was a nice gathering and it was nice to
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  Speaker 2: see everyone there. And you know, again I mentioned this,
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  Speaker 2: take your time to acknowledge the people in your life.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't know how long you have with them,
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  Speaker 2: and you take it for granted. Sometimes Brian was about
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  Speaker 2: ten years older than me and having a couple of
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  Speaker 2: funerals close together. It's rough and it's not something that
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  Speaker 2: I want to make a habit of. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: some of these folks that I saw yesterday, you just
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  Speaker 2: kind of go, hey, this is good. We don't need
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  Speaker 2: to do this anymore. We don't need to keep doing
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  Speaker 2: this for the purposes of funerals. So let's figure that out.
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about a little bit more. I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned yesterday some of this stuff with Don Lemon in
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  Speaker 2: the Face Act. I have heard a lot of talk
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  Speaker 2: about the Face Act as it pertained to religious places
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  Speaker 2: of worship. I feel silly because I was kind of
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  Speaker 2: saying I didn't know what the significance of some of
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  Speaker 2: the arrests as it pertained to the abortion clinics and
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  Speaker 2: people that were protesting outside abortion clinics, And then I thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I just need to look it up and remember the
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  Speaker 2: Face Act the full thing. And yes, certainly protections for
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  Speaker 2: prohibiting the use of force, threat of force, or physical
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  Speaker 2: obstruction to injure, intimidate, or interfere with anyone obtaining or
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  Speaker 2: providing reproductive health services or exercising religious freedoms at a
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  Speaker 2: place of worship. Violations can result in significant finds and
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  Speaker 2: prison sentences. This is the way it's worded. So it
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  Speaker 2: was enacted to protect access to reproductive health clinics, including
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  Speaker 2: abortion clinics, and places of religious worship from violent or
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  Speaker 2: obstructive protests. So basically it made it illegal to use force,
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  Speaker 2: threats physical obstruction to interfere with people at those locations.
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  Speaker 2: And it says church of synagogue's mosques included abortion clinic
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  Speaker 2: protests also, So one of those laws that probably was
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  Speaker 2: put into place with the purposes of saying, hey, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to make it so people can't be difficult at
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  Speaker 2: an abortion clinic, can't be out there harassing people, and
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  Speaker 2: you can't be violent, and if you want to protest,
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  Speaker 2: you can, you know, peacefully protest in theory, and apparently
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  Speaker 2: there have been cases of people charged while peacefully protesting.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the other part of this. The first offense
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  Speaker 2: of a non violent violation of this up to six
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  Speaker 2: months in prison a ten thousand dollars fine. Offenses subsequently
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  Speaker 2: up to eighteen months in prison twenty five thousand dollars fine.
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  Speaker 2: If there's violence involved. Punishments can increase significantly if bodily
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  Speaker 2: injury or death results. So and in the civil US
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  Speaker 2: in general can bring up civil lawsuits or injunctive relief
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  Speaker 2: for damages and penalties not to prohibit peaceful protesting or
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  Speaker 2: non obstructive protests that are in fact protected by the
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  Speaker 2: First Amendment. So just laying all of that out and
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  Speaker 2: the people that are questioning, how can this protest that
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  Speaker 2: happened at this church be a violation of that? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's pretty clear that there were people that
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  Speaker 2: were going inside this church and we're using intimidation while
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  Speaker 2: they were in there and shouting down the minister, And
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  Speaker 2: the questions become, you know, how much did don Lemon
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  Speaker 2: know as he was going in the door and when
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  Speaker 2: he made himself part of the story. Is that the
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  Speaker 2: point where he's crossed into this, And that's where you know,
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  Speaker 2: ultimately you have to say, well, are we are we
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  Speaker 2: are we charging someone with something based on what their
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  Speaker 2: actual behavior was inside without trying to say we're going
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  Speaker 2: to hide behind this First Amendment thing. And that's sort
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  Speaker 2: of what I was trying to touch on yesterday. So
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  Speaker 2: an interesting point that someone made that asked well, you
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  Speaker 2: can't hide behind journalism. If a felony is being committed,
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  Speaker 2: If a crime is being committed, and you're witnessing someone
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  Speaker 2: committing a felony, you're watching someone murder someone. Then you
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  Speaker 2: know that they're going there to murder them, and you think, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to go cover it as a journalist,
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  Speaker 2: and you do nothing to prevent it, you do nothing
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  Speaker 2: to stop it. You're not doing it. You're not calling
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  Speaker 2: the police as it's taking place. Hey, they've pulled the
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  Speaker 2: gun on them, they're firing shots. You're not calling for help.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to interview the person that's lying there dying.
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  Speaker 2: That's where you can't hide behind journalism. That's where you
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  Speaker 2: can't say, look, I'm just a journalist and that's all
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  Speaker 2: i'm doing. I'm just here covering this event. You can't
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  Speaker 2: watch if you were there as you know the shooter
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  Speaker 2: was attempting to assassinate Donald Trump and you know, lined
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  Speaker 2: up to take the shot, and if you're just watching
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  Speaker 2: it and you're like, well, I'm going to get an
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  Speaker 2: interview with this guy when he's done. You you're not,
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  Speaker 2: you know, committing this particular offense, but you are not
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  Speaker 2: protected in First Amendment that you're not trying to help
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  Speaker 2: or you're not trying to stop this crime from happening.
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  Speaker 2: There's elements to all of this that complicate this journalism
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  Speaker 2: defense that comes in. And here's the other part of
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  Speaker 2: all of this. As we lay out some of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff with the Face Act, what what are we that
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  Speaker 2: we have to have a law that says that you
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  Speaker 2: can't use force, threats, physical obstruction to interfere with a
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  Speaker 2: church service? Like what if we now the abortion thing
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  Speaker 2: that was something that was much more frequent in the past.
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  Speaker 2: There was a time period where there were people that
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  Speaker 2: were being extremely difficult at these places and they were saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you're not going in, or they were shouting
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  Speaker 2: offensive things at them, whatever. It was not a peaceful protest.
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  Speaker 2: Now there have been cases of people charging with his
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  Speaker 2: Face Act when they were actually just standing there being peaceful,
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  Speaker 2: but someone didn't like them being there, they wanted them
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  Speaker 2: to move, They didn't move because they were there for
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  Speaker 2: a protest that they had signed up for, and then
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  Speaker 2: they've been charged. There have been cases of that, and
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  Speaker 2: to understand that there's a big difference between that and
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  Speaker 2: actually going into the abortion clinic. And shouting at people
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  Speaker 2: that are trying to have abortions or they're coming in
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  Speaker 2: for quote unquote reproductive care. So it's just a crazy
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  Speaker 2: place that we're in when it comes to what we're
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  Speaker 2: defining as a protest, what we're calling a protest, and
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  Speaker 2: these protests become hostile and violent. Hostile protests aren't legal anyway.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that we have just turned a blind eye
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  Speaker 2: in certain cities in certain states on certain specific laws
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  Speaker 2: because there's a political advantage to it. The fact that
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  Speaker 2: we have people that don't mind this intimidation that takes place,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that you have people that are specifically
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  Speaker 2: trying to scare or intimidate, using terror as a weapon
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  Speaker 2: to weaponize it because you don't like something that's in place.
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  Speaker 2: And in this case, in this church, we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: people who, Hey, this pastor in this church at in
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  Speaker 2: Saint Paul, Twin Cities church, this pastor he supports ice,
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to go after him during a church service,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no place for that. There's no place for
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  Speaker 2: that on the street, there's no place for that. With
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  Speaker 2: the molotov cocktails, there's no place for that. With throwing
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  Speaker 2: things at police, cars, and the fact that we have
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  Speaker 2: become a society that says we're going to allow so
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  Speaker 2: much of this that it might spill over into these
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  Speaker 2: and we need to have these laws in place to
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  Speaker 2: protect these particular people. It's just amazing to me how
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  Speaker 2: many laws now we've just turned the other way on.
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  Speaker 2: We just look and pretend that's not breaking the law.
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  Speaker 2: They're just angry, there's nothing terrible. They're just stealing small things.
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  Speaker 2: It's not worth trying to stop them. If they're just
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  Speaker 2: stealing small things. They've just come in the country illegally,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't really know anything about them or who
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  Speaker 2: they came in with, and they had some children with them,
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  Speaker 2: and we don't really know who the kids are, if
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  Speaker 2: they belong with them. But we're going to just look
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  Speaker 2: the other way because we're stuffing a bunch of people
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  Speaker 2: into certain districts where we can boost representation in a
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  Speaker 2: state or in a city or part of a city,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to let them be counted in the census.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me the things that we were so
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  Speaker 2: quick to turn a blind eye on and pretend like
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing going on here, there's no law being broken,
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  Speaker 2: when they literally are breaking a law in so many
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  Speaker 2: of these cays, just at the foundational level. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: don Lemon being arrested shouldn't surprise us. I think he
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  Speaker 2: wanted it. I've said that from the beginning. I think
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  Speaker 2: this is one of those things where he would say, look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to, you know, get myself arrested. This is
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  Speaker 2: somebody who hasn't had a great go in the journalism
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  Speaker 2: arena lately, lost jobs, lost multiple jobs. Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 2: this is the same guy who said, you know, women
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  Speaker 2: were past their prime once they got past forty. That's
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  Speaker 2: part of why he ended up losing his job at CNN.
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  Speaker 2: But as someone pointed out, you get arrested, they're covering
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  Speaker 2: you on CNN, so you're kind of back on CNN right.
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  Speaker 2: guess they can call it. Then they're Lending Tree. Why
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  Speaker 2: not football fans and those tuning in for the commercials
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  Speaker 2: the William Shatner ad by the way, fantastic excited for that.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it yet, just let it happen
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of the theme of the commercial, but anyway,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: tuning in for the commercials or halftime show are expected
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to spend an average of one hundred and twenty nine
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  Speaker 2: dollars on food and beverages, apparel, betting, and more. That's
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  Speaker 2: down one hundred and forty two dollars from last year.
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  Speaker 2: About twenty percent of people say they plan to save
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: money this year and spend a little bit less, nineteen
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: percent saying that they plan to spend more. Most popular purchase,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: of course, is food. Fifty four percent of Super Bowl
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: viewers say they plan to place a bet on the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: game this year. That's up forty one percent from last year.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: What a shocker. All the ads telling you to gamble
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: on sports is causing an uptick in the amount of
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: people gambling on sports. Remember the old days when you
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: could watch sports and just enjoy the sports. Now I
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: hear from so many people, so many people. Oh man,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it just makes it more interesting. If you got some
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: money on the line, if you just got a little
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: money at stake, then it makes it a little more interesting.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You're not a sports fan, then that's my argument. You're
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: into the high of gambling, right, You're not really a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: sports fan, all right, those glp ones and gyms weighs
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to lose weight. Right, So, there's a forty nine year
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: old man from Utah named Skip Boyce decided that the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: only way he can truly overhaul his health is by
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: locking himself in a room for entire year. Skip, who
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: currently weighs three hundred and fifteen pounds, has turned his
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: bedroom into a self contained isolation room where he'll sleep,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: work out, eat, live stream is progress twenty four to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: seven on YouTube? Is it about healthy or is it
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: about the YouTube?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: That's what I wonder. His wife and four adult kids
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: are surprisingly on board. She'll deliver food to the door
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: while he focuses on hitting his goals, including dropping to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: two hundred and five pounds, learning a new language, mastering
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: pull ups. Skip says he's doing it because modern life
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: constantly distracts him, and isolating himself is the only way
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: he can fully reset and build lasting habits. Look probably
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: would work, I mean, depends on what kind of food
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: his wife's bringing him. But I also think that if
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you're live streaming it and people care, then you know
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it's a job at that point, right, It's not just
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: doing it for health. You're doing it for a job,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: which I'm not locking that. Hey, this is my job,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: so I get it. This is what people do to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: earn money sometimes. But I just think we can't pretend
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: this is all about his health. Now, if he can
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: take getting healthier and losing weight and turn it into
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: something profitable, hey, that's kind of the idea, right, all right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: France is apparently ending conjugal rights. So lawmakers in France
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: have moved to pass the law that abolishes conjugal rights
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and old legal and cultural idea that spouses, usually wives,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: owe certain duties to each other once they were married.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Historically that included living together, providing companionship, and in many traditions,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you know the conjugal rights. You know what that means.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: So a new bill clarifying that living together as a
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: married couple does not imply an obligation to have relations
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: with one another, and then a lack of relations cannot
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: be used to assign blame and a divorce. Supporters say
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the new law will help challenge lingering beliefs that spouses,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: especially wives, oh relations within marriage. That'll do it for
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