Latest / Chuck in the Morning / Chuck and Buck 1-2 Hour 4: Hugh Millen, Mike Holmgren, One Last Thing
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- 0:13Speaker 1: You guys gotta have drums for a big, big game,
- 0:16Speaker 1: always a big football game. Yeah, drums are a big
- 0:18Speaker 1: part of.
- 0:18Speaker 2: It, all right, Chuck Bow, former Mariner, Bucky Jacobs, and
- 0:22Speaker 2: Anders Hurst with you here on this football Friday.
- 0:25Speaker 1: That is right. It is a football Friday, and it
- 0:28Speaker 1: wouldn't be football Friday without Mike holm'er just gonna join
- 0:30Speaker 1: us at nine thirty and our QB one joining us
- 0:34Speaker 1: now for x's and o's. It is the fantastic you
- 0:39Speaker 1: he Good morning, sir, Happy to great to be with you.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Happy New Year.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Man, it's twelve days of Christmas. It feels like with
- 0:45Speaker 3: all this good football going on, unbelievable. Wait yeah it yeah,
- 0:49Speaker 3: ped a couple duds yesterday, but man did it deliver
- 0:53Speaker 3: last night.
- 0:53Speaker 1: So yeah, great game last night. What did you What
- 0:56Speaker 1: do you think of the college football Playoff to this point?
- 1:00Speaker 3: Well, I'm just delighted that, you know, from the standpoint
- 1:04Speaker 3: of where we've advanced. We had we we used to
- 1:07Speaker 3: just vote, Now we're Then we had the two teams
- 1:10Speaker 3: in the BACS, then four teams in the College Football Playoff.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Now we have twelve, which I really think of ten
- 1:16Speaker 3: because you have to have an automatic two from the
- 1:18Speaker 3: Group of five in order to stay out of anti
- 1:20Speaker 3: trust court. So I love the direction it's going. I
- 1:23Speaker 3: will say this. I know the SEC is going to
- 1:26Speaker 3: take a lot of shots, and I want to just
- 1:28Speaker 3: point this out. So let's just compare the trust me.
- 1:32Speaker 3: I'm all down for barking about the conference. I mean
- 1:35Speaker 3: as a kid from from me age three to age
- 1:38Speaker 3: twenty eight. Those twenty five years, the PAC ten won
- 1:42Speaker 3: twenty out of twenty five Rose Bowls, again obviously against
- 1:47Speaker 3: the Big ten and and and only nine of those
- 1:50Speaker 3: were the UH with the PAC ten team favored. But
- 1:54Speaker 3: the SEC, the Big Ten is nine and four of
- 1:57Speaker 3: the SEC's four and eight. But that Big ten has
- 2:00Speaker 3: played four games against the Big Five. The SEC has
- 2:03Speaker 3: played one. They all of those were won by the
- 2:07Speaker 3: Big ten or the SEC against their own conference. The
- 2:10Speaker 3: Big ten hasn't played any SEC has played two games,
- 2:15Speaker 3: so two winners and two losses will throw those out.
- 2:17Speaker 3: So that leaves you with nine games for the Big Ten,
- 2:22Speaker 3: they're five and four. Because I'm throwing out the Group
- 2:25Speaker 3: of five and the SEC has seven games there they
- 2:29Speaker 3: are one and six. But if you go by what
- 2:33Speaker 3: we could term the ranking within the conference. For example,
- 2:38Speaker 3: Indiana one yesterday. They're the number one team in the
- 2:42Speaker 3: Big Ten. According to the CFP, Alabama was the number
- 2:45Speaker 3: five team in the SEC. So if we call that
- 2:48Speaker 3: a negative four for the SEC, got me by those
- 2:53Speaker 3: standards the Big Ten has in those nine games they
- 2:58Speaker 3: have combined their minus. The SEC has combined minus twenty
- 3:04Speaker 3: in seven games, so they average the SEC games have
- 3:07Speaker 3: averaged being in a lower seeding relative to the conference.
- 3:13Speaker 3: For example, let me just give one more example to
- 3:16Speaker 3: make this clear, Missouri played Virginia. Virginia is the number
- 3:19Speaker 3: three team in the ACC. Missouri is the number eight
- 3:22Speaker 3: team in the SEC. Missouri lost seventeen to three, but
- 3:26Speaker 3: they had a minus five conference So again, SEC minus twenty,
- 3:31Speaker 3: Big Ten minus seven. That's point eight average per game,
- 3:35Speaker 3: whereas the SEC has a minus two point nine, almost
- 3:38Speaker 3: almost three per and then the other conferences, the Big
- 3:41Speaker 3: twelve has a plus five. Again, SEC minus twenty, ACC
- 3:46Speaker 3: has a plus fifteen. So at any rate, I think
- 3:50Speaker 3: that's worth noting. The SEC last year had fifteen first
- 3:56Speaker 3: round draft picks, all time record for any conference, and
- 4:01Speaker 3: the starters in the NFL the SEC has forty six
- 4:05Speaker 3: percent more than the next closest conference was the Big Ten,
- 4:08Speaker 3: and the SEC has two fewer teams, So at any event,
- 4:13Speaker 3: that's just a thought. SEC is gonna take some shots.
- 4:16Speaker 3: When I watch the tape for the draft, I still say,
- 4:19Speaker 3: top to bill, I think that the Big Ten right
- 4:21Speaker 3: now has got the best teams in the top two
- 4:23Speaker 3: or three. But if you go all sixteen teams and
- 4:26Speaker 3: you went nine plays number nine and eleven plays number
- 4:29Speaker 3: eleven and seven plays number seven, I believe the SEC
- 4:32Speaker 3: would be winning a tournament against any conference.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably right, but I just I just really
- 4:38Speaker 1: do revel in the fact that all of those Hillbillies
- 4:42Speaker 1: think that they're gonna win. They can all do that,
- 4:45Speaker 1: we can all revel. Yet all those Hillbillies think they're
- 4:47Speaker 1: gonna win one thousand to three every time they face
- 4:50Speaker 1: somebody outside of conference, and it's just not true. All right, Well,
- 4:54Speaker 1: let's talk about Saturday Night's a big game, Yes, Seahawks
- 4:58Speaker 1: taking on the Sam Francisco forty nine ers. So where
- 5:02Speaker 1: does the breakdown begin? For Hugh Millen? What stands out
- 5:06Speaker 1: to you as a real pivotal aspect to score a
- 5:09Speaker 1: victory Saturday?
- 5:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I think brock Purty is red hot. He's over
- 5:13Speaker 3: the last three games, he's at one hundred and thirty
- 5:15Speaker 3: one point five passer rating with eleven touchdowns. Next closest
- 5:20Speaker 3: guy is eight. Sam Darnold in that period has three
- 5:23Speaker 3: He's averaged two hundred and ninety eight yards per game.
- 5:25Speaker 3: In that he's number one in yards per temp, number
- 5:29Speaker 3: one pass rating, you know, and to put in a context,
- 5:32Speaker 3: he's number two in completion percentage of seventy four point two.
- 5:35Speaker 3: The only guy ahead of him is Tyler Hunley. The
- 5:38Speaker 3: difference between Tyler Hunley and Purty. Tyler Hunley is five
- 5:41Speaker 3: point three yards per tempt, which is at the bottom,
- 5:44Speaker 3: and Brock Purty is nine point two, Like substantial difference.
- 5:48Speaker 3: So you got a not red hot, white hot quarterback
- 5:52Speaker 3: and you know he he pushing the ball down the field,
- 5:56Speaker 3: has just been studying this tape and you think of
- 5:58Speaker 3: him as a lollipop, you know, just kind of high
- 6:02Speaker 3: school level physical traits. But somehow he pushes the ball
- 6:07Speaker 3: down him and they did a bit a boot left.
- 6:10Speaker 3: He goes all the way back to the right hash
- 6:11Speaker 3: stops and he throws a far sideline comeback at twenty
- 6:17Speaker 3: two air yards Like that's those are the type of
- 6:19Speaker 3: plays that Mike Shanahan used to have in for John Elway.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Now the ball doesn't get there like John Elway. But schematically,
- 6:27Speaker 3: don't think of this guy. This guy is a you know,
- 6:31Speaker 3: he's coming after your throat. So I think that's that's
- 6:33Speaker 3: probably the thing that gets my tens in the most.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he obviously is hot right now, and yet
- 6:40Speaker 4: he's been back for what a month and a half,
- 6:43Speaker 4: and so he's not the only thing that this team
- 6:45Speaker 4: brings to the table. I mean, they've found themselves knocking
- 6:48Speaker 4: on the doorstep of that number one seed after he
- 6:51Speaker 4: was gone for a lot of it, in large part
- 6:53Speaker 4: because another guy that did stay healthy was Christian McCaffrey.
- 6:56Speaker 4: So you when you think of this guy, he's also
- 6:58Speaker 4: hot right now. One hundred, like almost two hundred yards
- 7:02Speaker 4: in his last week against Chicago. He's kind of hot.
- 7:05Speaker 4: Is this one of those guys you're not going to
- 7:07Speaker 4: stop him. You just hope to contain him. And if so,
- 7:09Speaker 4: how do you do that?
- 7:11Speaker 3: Well, I hope to stop him. I you know, he's
- 7:13Speaker 3: gonna get his yards. To your point, I don't want
- 7:15Speaker 3: to disagree. I think that is true, but you know,
- 7:18Speaker 3: they they run the stretch play, that wide stretch play,
- 7:21Speaker 3: and all of their play action it works off of that.
- 7:25Speaker 3: So you've got to you've got to defend the width
- 7:28Speaker 3: of the field and in your spacing, like you if
- 7:31Speaker 3: you can't just run to Christ McCaffrey because he's running
- 7:34Speaker 3: a stretch left, because brock Purty's going to come out
- 7:37Speaker 3: on the boot to his right, or he's going to
- 7:40Speaker 3: boot and then stop and throw back to his left.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Like I said, all the screens they do off of that,
- 7:45Speaker 3: so they really make you defend the width of the field.
- 7:48Speaker 3: I do like from a defensive standpoint, it sounds odd
- 7:52Speaker 3: that they're on the road. They're going to communicate better,
- 7:55Speaker 3: you know, you know they've been a substantially better defense
- 7:57Speaker 3: on the road. I mean, it's very obviously paradoxical, but
- 8:02Speaker 3: it's it's reality, and so I like that. The Seattle
- 8:05Speaker 3: is here's some things that you love about it. From
- 8:07Speaker 3: Seattle to standpoint, the defense of Seattle compared to the
- 8:12Speaker 3: forty nine er defense got met total defensive total EPA.
- 8:18Speaker 3: That's expected points at it Google, if you want to
- 8:21Speaker 3: know about it. I've run the correlation numbers. It's very
- 8:24Speaker 3: high in correlations. It's legit Seattle number one in the
- 8:28Speaker 3: NFL San Francisco twenty six. Third down defense Seattle number
- 8:32Speaker 3: one in EPA. It's San Francisco twenty one. But to
- 8:37Speaker 3: your question, opponent rushing yards per attempt, Seattle's defense number
- 8:43Speaker 3: one in the NFL, San Francisco just fifteen. And then
- 8:47Speaker 3: when you flip around and say, okay, that's the rushing
- 8:49Speaker 3: how about how you doing on the past. Seattle's defense
- 8:52Speaker 3: opponent netyards rushing per attempt number one in the NFL,
- 8:56Speaker 3: San Francisco just twenty one. So Seattle stops the run.
- 9:00Speaker 3: That's been the best, most consistent thing they've done all
- 9:03Speaker 3: year of five phases of football. I think their defensive
- 9:07Speaker 3: run stopping has been the best and most consistent you
- 9:10Speaker 3: could throw in special teams. Seattle's number one in special
- 9:13Speaker 3: teams EPA. They don't have a big advantage in that
- 9:16Speaker 3: regard because the forty nine ers are three. But yeah,
- 9:19Speaker 3: you love how Seattle has been able to stop the run.
- 9:22Speaker 3: They need to do it tomorrow night.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Hu melanis with us x's and o's in preparation for
- 9:27Speaker 1: Seahawks forty nine ers tomorrow night. For all the marbles
- 9:31Speaker 1: here X's and O's brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps.
- 9:34Speaker 1: A light choose chill. Let's look it to the other
- 9:38Speaker 1: side and talk about the offense, because I mean, look,
- 9:41Speaker 1: forty nine Ers offense is running red hot. Seahawks defense
- 9:45Speaker 1: is running red hot. If there's a question mark lately
- 9:47Speaker 1: for these two teams, forty nine Ers defense versus the
- 9:51Speaker 1: Seahawks offense, which isn't playing as effectively as it was
- 9:54Speaker 1: earlier in the year. So that matchup, how do you
- 9:58Speaker 1: expect that to go on Saturday night?
- 10:01Speaker 3: Well, you like, from a Seattle perspective, the idea that
- 10:05Speaker 3: Fred Warner's not playing. That guy's a sure far Hall
- 10:07Speaker 3: of Fame mid linebacker. And then of course Nick Bosa
- 10:13Speaker 3: isn't there to wreck the game like he did in
- 10:15Speaker 3: Game one at the end of that game. And so
- 10:19Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers percent of sacks, they are thirty second,
- 10:25Speaker 3: they're dead last. Hurries, they're only twenty fourth, where Seattle's
- 10:31Speaker 3: defensive second in that regard. Now, what are they doing
- 10:34Speaker 3: schematically percent of plays with five plus rushers? This is
- 10:39Speaker 3: important because this is hurt Seattle. And let's see if
- 10:43Speaker 3: Robert Slim makes an adjustment. But the forty nine ers
- 10:47Speaker 3: are only twenty fourth in the league and five or more.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Is that just call that a blitz? Right? But here's
- 10:53Speaker 3: a cool thing that really plays in Seattle's face. I'm
- 10:56Speaker 3: gonna read word for word right out of the NFL
- 10:59Speaker 3: stat port role ready quote percent of plays with a
- 11:03Speaker 3: five plus man rush that result in negative EPA for
- 11:08Speaker 3: the offense end quote?
- 11:09Speaker 1: Is that that confuser going to help you?
- 11:12Speaker 3: Basically, that's just saying, when you do blitz, are you
- 11:16Speaker 3: creating some kind of havoc Seattle's defense. I know you
- 11:20Speaker 3: asked me about Seal's offense. Seattle's defense in that regard
- 11:23Speaker 3: is number one in the NFL, but the forty nine
- 11:27Speaker 3: ers are just twenty eighth. That's a big difference, obviously, right,
- 11:30Speaker 3: So not only do the forteen so you could say
- 11:33Speaker 3: this about Seattle's defense, they don't blitz a lot. They're
- 11:35Speaker 3: only twenty fifth, but when they do, they're they're they're wreckers,
- 11:40Speaker 3: They're they're number one. Forty nine ers also don't blitz
- 11:43Speaker 3: a lot. They're twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty fourth Seattle,
- 11:47Speaker 3: San Francisco, but they're twenty eighth in terms of the
- 11:52Speaker 3: damage that they're inflicting as we're represented by that statistic.
- 11:56Speaker 3: So I like that for seat that's been a bit
- 12:00Speaker 3: big part of their problem offensively is just kind of
- 12:03Speaker 3: how their offensive line has handled the different pressures. You know,
- 12:08Speaker 3: you saw Minnesota. I mean they just ground him to
- 12:10Speaker 3: a halt. Certainly, Solo will watch that Viking tape and
- 12:14Speaker 3: perhaps try and duplicate it, but that hasn't been what
- 12:16Speaker 3: they do, and teams, as a general rule don't try
- 12:19Speaker 3: and remake themselves.
- 12:20Speaker 4: In Week eighteen, we had Greg on it this morning
- 12:25Speaker 4: at seven and he was kind of pointing towards number
- 12:27Speaker 4: three that Nicki mcmoy might be a key factor in
- 12:31Speaker 4: this rematch. He got hurt, I think in the fourth
- 12:33Speaker 4: or fifth play of the first game, and so how
- 12:36Speaker 4: important could he be? And what have you seen out
- 12:39Speaker 4: of him lately that you think might be just what
- 12:41Speaker 4: the doctor ordered for this rematch.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Well, one of the.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Things in studying this that I've always thought about Brock
- 12:47Speaker 3: Purdy's game is that his most effective play when I
- 12:51Speaker 3: close my eyes and I say, okay, what's the most
- 12:53Speaker 3: effective thing they do? If I was a forty nine
- 12:55Speaker 3: er fan, what would I think is really cool? Well,
- 12:57Speaker 3: I would love how brock Purdy, whether it's playofs or
- 13:01Speaker 3: not drop back his intermediate inbreaking routes, he's throwing in
- 13:07Speaker 3: between the numbers. On inbreaking routes, he probably throws it
- 13:11Speaker 3: as hard as he can, but it's got an arc
- 13:13Speaker 3: to it and it goes over the shallow layer and
- 13:15Speaker 3: in front of the deep layer, and he has he
- 13:17Speaker 3: has grade a elite level anticipation, so he just you know,
- 13:21Speaker 3: he just arcs these ball right into the deep middle.
- 13:25Speaker 3: This year he has not been good and he I
- 13:29Speaker 3: think his passer ratings under sixty five in that. But
- 13:32Speaker 3: he's doing a lot more on out routes I think
- 13:34Speaker 3: is uh his out routes I don't have in front
- 13:37Speaker 3: of me. But the outbreaking routes have been something that
- 13:41Speaker 3: has been far better for him. That's not normal brock Purty.
- 13:44Speaker 3: But when you're going to the out route, okay, now
- 13:47Speaker 3: you have to rally in space and nick emm and worry.
- 13:50Speaker 3: His ability to accelerate in the flat to cover ground
- 13:54Speaker 3: from the numbers to the sideline is as good as
- 13:57Speaker 3: anybody's now. He only played in four plays against the
- 14:01Speaker 3: forty nine ers in Week one. Of those they played
- 14:04Speaker 3: man and man one time, who was nick him and
- 14:07Speaker 3: Worry align against Christian McCaffrey right over the top. McCaffrey
- 14:13Speaker 3: loves to run those option routes. He's as good as
- 14:16Speaker 3: there is. You know, even going back, you know, you'd
- 14:18Speaker 3: have to go back to probably Marshall fault before you
- 14:20Speaker 3: find a better running back running option routes than Christian McCaffrey.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Seattle in just you know, the top week one, first
- 14:30Speaker 3: five plays of the season, they were willing to expose
- 14:33Speaker 3: themselves to that.
- 14:36Speaker 5: Option route.
- 14:36Speaker 3: So yeah, I think Aman Worry's got a playmaking ability,
- 14:40Speaker 3: played makers and mentality and he tackles well. I expect
- 14:44Speaker 3: them to be beg a big part of the win
- 14:46Speaker 3: if there's going to be one.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Hugh Mellan is w that's righty or on chucking back
- 14:50Speaker 1: x's and oh's before Seahawks forty nine ers tomorrow night
- 14:52Speaker 1: at five o'clock. All right, So you get to chat
- 14:57Speaker 1: and this saysn't a loaded statement with people that really
- 15:00Speaker 1: actually like Sam Donald here this morning? Yeah, and so
- 15:05Speaker 1: I would say, what do you want to see? I
- 15:08Speaker 1: mean here it is there's the big moment, all the
- 15:10Speaker 1: discussion about Sam Donald, give me, give me a couple
- 15:14Speaker 1: of things that will assure that Sam Donald has a
- 15:17Speaker 1: big game and comes through for the Seahawks in the
- 15:20Speaker 1: big moment.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Well, look, I have some concerns because you know, it's passerwading.
- 15:25Speaker 3: The first nine weeks was one hundred and fourteen. In
- 15:28Speaker 3: the last seven it's been eighty four. It's it's been
- 15:31Speaker 3: a thirty point drop. Yeah, we've all seen it. There's
- 15:34Speaker 3: been struggled. So I don't I don't think that it's
- 15:37Speaker 3: just gonna you know, all of a sudden just emerge.
- 15:40Speaker 3: Where I've been with Sam Donald is I just think
- 15:42Speaker 3: about it from a John Snyder and Mike McDonald perspective,
- 15:46Speaker 3: and I would think this, if you had one hundred
- 15:48Speaker 3: guys in a bar and you said, okay, we're gonna
- 15:51Speaker 3: line up, you know, in a row from you know,
- 15:54Speaker 3: most bullish about Sam Donald, to least even the least,
- 15:59Speaker 3: the dead last, the DFL guy in the in the bar,
- 16:03Speaker 3: would at least be able to have a grown man
- 16:05Speaker 3: conversation about Sam Donald and keep it respectful. For the
- 16:10Speaker 3: following reason, Sam Donald and the Seahawks, they just they've
- 16:15Speaker 3: they've already set a record for franchise with wins, and
- 16:17Speaker 3: you know, with the seventeenth. They might get another one.
- 16:20Speaker 3: They've already set the all time franchise record for points.
- 16:24Speaker 3: They're number two in the league. Sam Donald was voted
- 16:27Speaker 3: to the Pro Bowl number two quarterback in the NFC,
- 16:30Speaker 3: behind only Matthew Stafford, who's front runner for the MVP.
- 16:34Speaker 3: And by the way, the fans vote, which is one third,
- 16:37Speaker 3: Donald was not in the top ten. That means the
- 16:40Speaker 3: players in the coaches vote had to be resoundingly at
- 16:43Speaker 3: least number two. Because he's the number two in the NFC,
- 16:45Speaker 3: his contract is only is eighteenth out of all quarterbacks,
- 16:49Speaker 3: which allows him to do things like get Josh Jones
- 16:54Speaker 3: for four million instead of George Fant for one point
- 16:56Speaker 3: two million. And Josh Jones right now? Is this you know?
- 16:59Speaker 3: You just want to games, including against the Rams with
- 17:01Speaker 3: a backup left tackle who we can't even remember having
- 17:04Speaker 3: a bad play in these games. So so I would
- 17:07Speaker 3: I would think. And oh, by the way, that the
- 17:10Speaker 3: uh Sam Donald is number one in deep passer rating,
- 17:13Speaker 3: number number one in yards per drop back, number one
- 17:16Speaker 3: in percent of plays that are ten or more yards,
- 17:19Speaker 3: number one in net yards per sorry, number two in
- 17:21Speaker 3: net yards per tamp had been number one almost the
- 17:24Speaker 3: entire season. So those facts alone should at the very least,
- 17:30Speaker 3: we should be giving Sam Donald respect. We're not gonna
- 17:33Speaker 3: clown him like Vin Baker. We're not gonna clown him
- 17:36Speaker 3: like Jamal Adams and some of the other we can get,
- 17:38Speaker 3: you know, right like that, that would be my thought.
- 17:41Speaker 3: I like, I would just say, yes, there are legitimate
- 17:46Speaker 3: questions about what has happened over the last six weeks,
- 17:49Speaker 3: but there's just been too much on the good side.
- 17:51Speaker 3: In any event, I would say, I love that Rasid
- 17:56Speaker 3: shahit Is is healthy. I think that that's an important part.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Because you go back to last week Carolina. One of
- 18:03Speaker 3: the things I didn't like about Clint Kubiak's play calling
- 18:07Speaker 3: is that he should have they should have recognized that
- 18:10Speaker 3: the Carolina corners were squatting on them. You got you
- 18:13Speaker 3: gotta call those go routes, you got to call those
- 18:15Speaker 3: double moves and and hit some big plays and and
- 18:18Speaker 3: and they were playing a lot of what's called cover six.
- 18:21Speaker 3: They roll to a two deep on one side, but
- 18:24Speaker 3: then you got free access to the receivers on the other.
- 18:27Speaker 6: Uh.
- 18:27Speaker 3: We've already hit JSN on a number of posts Pittsburgh
- 18:31Speaker 3: and Jacksonville against that coverage. Uh, you know, crank one up.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Let's hit one of those tomorrow night. So so I think,
- 18:38Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm like all gas, no brakes, keep
- 18:41Speaker 3: pushing it down. And the final thought on that Pat Mahomes.
- 18:46Speaker 3: You go to Pro Football Focus, which is subscribed to
- 18:49Speaker 3: by all thirty two teams in the NFL. They have
- 18:52Speaker 3: a statistic called turnover worthy plays, which actually it kind
- 18:57Speaker 3: of weeds out the luck. So Sam Donold right now
- 19:00Speaker 3: he has nineteen turnover worthy place and but the I'm
- 19:08Speaker 3: trying to find the list of the guys that are.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I know that Bo Nicks has more, Trevor Lawrence has more,
- 19:14Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes has more. And in Pat Mahomes' career, if
- 19:20Speaker 3: you factor for the seventeen games because and I'm including
- 19:23Speaker 3: twenty eighteen and they you know, in the year he
- 19:26Speaker 3: had the MVP. Pat Mahomes, if you calculated over seventeen averages,
- 19:33Speaker 3: twenty point nine got me twenty point nine turnover worthy
- 19:38Speaker 3: plays per season. He's had five seasons where he's been
- 19:42Speaker 3: over twenty. Sam Donald's sitting at nineteen, you know, you know,
- 19:46Speaker 3: give him another one, because that's the pace he's on.
- 19:48Speaker 3: He would have twenty, we'll call it twenty point two
- 19:51Speaker 3: and UH, and Sam Donald is twenty point nine for
- 19:55Speaker 3: god darn it. Pat Mahomes is twenty point nine for
- 19:59Speaker 3: his entire career. And Sam Donald, if we give him
- 20:02Speaker 3: another one for Saturday, because that's the rate he's been on,
- 20:05Speaker 3: he's he's he'd be, you know, at twenty. So there
- 20:10Speaker 3: are there are coaches that look at guys and say,
- 20:14Speaker 3: if you're making the big plays, we can live with
- 20:17Speaker 3: the turnover worthy plays. And it's not that we like him, right,
- 20:22Speaker 3: but we're not going to try and neoter him out
- 20:24Speaker 3: of you because we don't want the unwanted consequences. Did
- 20:27Speaker 3: I I don't want to list the number of stats
- 20:31Speaker 3: that that are donald is number one or number two.
- 20:35Speaker 3: I don't want to relist it. But those are all
- 20:37Speaker 3: suggestive of big plays and and Sam Donald's fourth and
- 20:40Speaker 3: in the UH in terms of BTT big time throws
- 20:44Speaker 3: by p F f F you know, eighth and turnover
- 20:47Speaker 3: worthy plays. So I don't know, I think there's enough
- 20:51Speaker 3: enough of these facts that lean towards Sam Donald that
- 20:57Speaker 3: you know, I I don't get any type of venomous
- 21:02Speaker 3: criticism to him whatsoever. Don't understand it.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm glad he's our quarterback.
- 21:08Speaker 4: No Saturday, I thought you knew something about football. I mean,
- 21:13Speaker 4: this guy, he's just trash and we got to move
- 21:15Speaker 4: on from.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Him because because because NFL starting quarterbacks, they're just rolling
- 21:24Speaker 3: through the street like Steves brus right, like they just.
- 21:27Speaker 4: Oh you know there's another Tumbleweek's mill road time in
- 21:31Speaker 4: the playoffs.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Yeah, Philip Rivers, I think is available right now, so
- 21:36Speaker 1: we can do that. Uh so, uh big doings at
- 21:40Speaker 1: the Melons then tomorrow night, I mean.
- 21:42Speaker 3: What we what are we doing? Kids in adult kids
- 21:46Speaker 3: home from the East Coast. Got a bunch of friends in. Yeah,
- 21:49Speaker 3: we're gonna have a party and look, I'm concerned. I
- 21:52Speaker 3: I don't want to color myself is just like optimistic
- 21:55Speaker 3: about this. I have a lot of concerns. You know.
- 22:00Speaker 3: I think Kyle Shanahan, I think he's a this This
- 22:03Speaker 3: is such great theater. When you talk about Kyle Shanninghan
- 22:09Speaker 3: against Mike McDonald, it is is just like devout, like
- 22:13Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna kill one box of popcorn on
- 22:16Speaker 3: every series. That's how good this is. And uh, I'm
- 22:21Speaker 3: to devour it. You know it's just the best, so
- 22:24Speaker 3: at an event.
- 22:24Speaker 1: All right, well, enjoy, we'll break it down Monday.
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- 23:45Speaker 1: It's Chuck Buck and Andrews. So with you and joining
- 23:48Speaker 1: us now on the radio program is the legendary Mike Holmgrid.
- 23:54Speaker 6: Happy New Year to you, sir, Hey, Happy new year, guys.
- 23:58Speaker 3: Good to hear your voices.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Great to hear you as well. How did you survive
- 24:02Speaker 1: sun Katia with a thousand of your closest relatives.
- 24:07Speaker 6: Well, actually, I'm still here. Oh I'm still here. Yeah,
- 24:11Speaker 6: there's a lot of snow. Okay, and every time I
- 24:14Speaker 6: walk out, my grandchildren feel the need to pelp me
- 24:17Speaker 6: with a snowball. I don't know what that's all about,
- 24:20Speaker 6: but no, it's where we've had a blast. We're coming
- 24:23Speaker 6: home tomorrow.
- 24:24Speaker 4: You've introduced in them to what a whitewash is, coach,
- 24:27Speaker 4: Will you throw them down and snow in their face?
- 24:31Speaker 6: No? No, I know you know what, get them Kathy
- 24:33Speaker 6: would yell at me so much, really, but they're they're
- 24:36Speaker 6: throwing it at me. Oh No, you're the year, You're
- 24:40Speaker 6: the adult. I'm not so sure.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're being way too grown up about this.
- 24:46Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 24:47Speaker 1: You are the coach of some of the greatest quarterbacks
- 24:49Speaker 1: of all time. You could assemble a Hall of Fame
- 24:52Speaker 1: legendary great snowball throwing team, and you just you attack
- 24:58Speaker 1: your grandkids with Steve Young and Joe Mont and Brett Fahr.
- 25:02Speaker 6: That's what you do, you know what, that's a great idea.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, Hasselback would be great at this. He's got
- 25:14Speaker 1: a look.
- 25:15Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah he would be you know what, he'd
- 25:17Speaker 6: be on my team. Then I turned my back and
- 25:19Speaker 6: he nailed me. He would just throw on right at me.
- 25:24Speaker 1: All right. So, huge game tomorrow night. It doesn't get
- 25:27Speaker 1: any bigger than this in terms of a regular season game.
- 25:30Speaker 1: So what does it come down to for you? How
- 25:33Speaker 1: did the Seahawks emerge victorious tomorrow night in Santa Clara.
- 25:38Speaker 6: Well, I'll make it really simple, because I think both
- 25:43Speaker 6: teams are excellent. The forty nine ers offense is really rolling.
- 25:46Speaker 6: The Seahawks defense has played very well all year. I
- 25:50Speaker 6: think it's going to come down to what it usually
- 25:51Speaker 6: comes down, turnovers, And because I think it's going to
- 25:55Speaker 6: be a close game. You know, it's a great rivalry.
- 25:59Speaker 6: Uh Mike McDonald, he's been really good on the road
- 26:03Speaker 6: and so that I think you take away that advantage
- 26:06Speaker 6: for San Francisco. But I think it's going to come
- 26:09Speaker 6: down to turnovers. You know, Sam Master protect the ball.
- 26:12Speaker 6: I hope we see a lot of play action, pass
- 26:14Speaker 6: and movement in their in their play selection. But no,
- 26:19Speaker 6: it's going to be a great game. I think it's
- 26:21Speaker 6: going to be really close. The last time I said
- 26:23Speaker 6: it's going to be really close and low scoring was
- 26:28Speaker 6: the Seahawks versus the Rams, and it was thirty eight
- 26:30Speaker 6: thirty seven or something. So I will I will steer
- 26:33Speaker 6: clear of predicting the scoring output. But this is what
- 26:38Speaker 6: you play for. I mean this for the fans in
- 26:40Speaker 6: both cities. This is great coach.
- 26:44Speaker 4: I mean on the turnover front, I mean, we've got
- 26:46Speaker 4: some folks that just get you know, get hung up
- 26:49Speaker 4: on it to some degree. So I'll ask you, because
- 26:52Speaker 4: it was a point that Hugh made about there's a
- 26:56Speaker 4: risk of you if you kind of clip the wings
- 26:58Speaker 4: of your quarterback because you fearful of him making you know,
- 27:02Speaker 4: bad throws or you know, creating some turnovers, then you
- 27:07Speaker 4: take away maybe some of your ceilings, some of the
- 27:10Speaker 4: big play, the explosive plays.
- 27:12Speaker 5: Stuff like that. So how do you manage that?
- 27:14Speaker 6: You?
- 27:14Speaker 4: I mean, you're a perfect guy to ask with, having
- 27:16Speaker 4: done it with Brett Fahr for example. It's a gunslinger,
- 27:19Speaker 4: and yet you're like, hey, we got to calm that down.
- 27:22Speaker 4: But I only want you to calm it down to
- 27:23Speaker 4: the degree that is necessary and nothing more.
- 27:27Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Hugh has a good point because I
- 27:31Speaker 6: don't think you want to just hamstering your quarterback, you know.
- 27:35Speaker 6: But there are situations that you have talked about and
- 27:39Speaker 6: will continue to talk about, and we'll always talk about
- 27:42Speaker 6: with him. About this now right here, you have to
- 27:45Speaker 6: be careful, hold onto the ball, don't do this, don't
- 27:48Speaker 6: do this, don't do this, and then if he's listening,
- 27:51Speaker 6: and then he'll make adjustments and get better, I think,
- 27:54Speaker 6: and not turn the ball over so much. And I
- 27:58Speaker 6: know they've had those covered stations, you know with Sam,
- 28:03Speaker 6: But I listen, and you know we've talked about before.
- 28:06Speaker 6: I'm in his corner and I'm not going to hamstring
- 28:08Speaker 6: him because in the second half in drives, we've seen
- 28:11Speaker 6: it all season long. He has come through for the
- 28:14Speaker 6: most part, you know, and try made big throws, you know,
- 28:18Speaker 6: one games for them at tight games at the end
- 28:21Speaker 6: because of his play and things like that. So you
- 28:23Speaker 6: don't want to hamstring him. The only time that I
- 28:27Speaker 6: the example and I've told you guys before with Joe
- 28:30Speaker 6: Montana with the forty nine ers. Here you have the
- 28:31Speaker 6: greatest quarterback, one of the greatest that ever played. And
- 28:35Speaker 6: I evaluated after one season that he if he was
- 28:39Speaker 6: he didn't throw a lot of interceptions, but the interceptions
- 28:41Speaker 6: came on this one particular play and it was a
- 28:45Speaker 6: favorite of his, and it was a favorite of the
- 28:47Speaker 6: Bill Losses offense. And this is after Bill had left.
- 28:51Speaker 6: And so without getting fired, I said, okay, we're taking
- 28:56Speaker 6: this play out of the offense. And Joe didn't like
- 29:01Speaker 6: it very He goes, well, why I like it because
- 29:04Speaker 6: of this, And so we did that and it helped
- 29:08Speaker 6: a little bit, it really did. So you can't hamstring them,
- 29:12Speaker 6: but you can change some things.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Mike Homrid is with us here on this football Friday
- 29:18Speaker 1: as we get ready for Seahawks forty nine ers, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: so I would just ask you, in terms of the
- 29:24Speaker 1: scope of how big this game is in your experience,
- 29:29Speaker 1: did you constantly remind your guys during the course of
- 29:33Speaker 1: the week of how big the game is to try
- 29:35Speaker 1: to get them to rise to the moment or did
- 29:38Speaker 1: you try the other way, like try to treat it
- 29:40Speaker 1: just like a normal football game so that they weren't
- 29:43Speaker 1: too overhyped by the time that kickoff or a ride.
- 29:48Speaker 6: You know, there's a happy meeting there. I think the
- 29:52Speaker 6: players know, but to have to remind them, I think
- 29:55Speaker 6: is important. I mean, you just don't pound it every day,
- 29:58Speaker 6: but your mind them, Okay, this game, you know what
- 30:02Speaker 6: it means, and you know what we have to do,
- 30:05Speaker 6: and you know how however you decide to do that.
- 30:08Speaker 6: Then on game day, then you give your final speech
- 30:10Speaker 6: and then that's it. Then all speeches are over. But no,
- 30:14Speaker 6: they have to know and they know they already know,
- 30:17Speaker 6: but you impress upon that. But they also know and
- 30:21Speaker 6: the players are the players are smart. You know. This
- 30:23Speaker 6: is the beginning. This is the beginning at the journey
- 30:27Speaker 6: to the football, to the to the super Bowl, you know,
- 30:30Speaker 6: because you're gonna have playoffs and all sorts of stuff.
- 30:32Speaker 6: But to get the first round by and to win
- 30:36Speaker 6: the division, that's huge. But it's just the start.
- 30:40Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you.
- 30:41Speaker 4: I don't think that this is whoever loses is you know,
- 30:44Speaker 4: their chances are shot by any stretchs they're both going
- 30:46Speaker 4: to get to go into the dance. But I I
- 30:49Speaker 4: do you know, we talk about playing, you know, getting
- 30:51Speaker 4: right at the right time, playing hot down the stretch
- 30:54Speaker 4: going into the playoffs.
- 30:55Speaker 5: I mean, how much of that still weighs into it.
- 30:58Speaker 4: You don't necessarily want to go in on a losing
- 31:00Speaker 4: streak after a highly emotional game that cost you the
- 31:03Speaker 4: number one seed and a bye and all that stuff.
- 31:07Speaker 6: No, there's going to be a lot of emotions a buck,
- 31:09Speaker 6: You're right, and if you lose the game, you're going
- 31:11Speaker 6: to feel bad. You are going to feel bad. But
- 31:14Speaker 6: if it's a close ballgame and it's tight, and all
- 31:17Speaker 6: of a sudden a field goal beats you or something
- 31:19Speaker 6: beat you one play, then you can go in saying, okay,
- 31:22Speaker 6: that one play that was we can fix that. But
- 31:25Speaker 6: if all of a sudden, the games, like I watched
- 31:28Speaker 6: some of the college games yesterday, you lose thirty eight
- 31:32Speaker 6: to three, that can't happen. You know that can't happen now,
- 31:36Speaker 6: all of a sudden, that settles with you, and it
- 31:38Speaker 6: probably hurts you in the playoffs. But no, there's an
- 31:42Speaker 6: effect there, there's an emotional effect. But if it's a
- 31:45Speaker 6: close ball game one, you feel that, but you can't
- 31:49Speaker 6: bounce from that.
- 31:50Speaker 1: All right, I asked you this question. I'll ask you, so,
- 31:52Speaker 1: how are you watching the game and it sounds like
- 31:55Speaker 1: you're leaving son, Katie one day too early here. I
- 31:58Speaker 1: think maybe you ought to keep that a little palace
- 32:01Speaker 1: you got out there in theater and popcorn machine and
- 32:04Speaker 1: everything else, and just soak it all.
- 32:06Speaker 6: In, you know what. I'm glad you said that, because
- 32:09Speaker 6: the popcorn. They have a popcorn machine in there. It's unbelievable,
- 32:14Speaker 6: and you got this. It's just unbelievable. And I had
- 32:19Speaker 6: a lot of popcorn. But no, we're leaving, okay, And
- 32:22Speaker 6: tomorrow is supposed to be there's supposed to be a
- 32:23Speaker 6: little snow in the mountains. So if if we get
- 32:27Speaker 6: stuck in a little hut at the top of the
- 32:30Speaker 6: mountain tomorrow, and I'll have to phone you guys to
- 32:34Speaker 6: come up there and get me, Okay.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Bucky, we'll get that done for you,
- 32:38Speaker 1: and if you miss the game, we'll re enact it
- 32:40Speaker 1: for you. Play I play.
- 32:41Speaker 5: I got that.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, coach, Well be safe and keep dodging
- 32:46Speaker 1: those snowballs and we'll talk to you all Monday.
- 32:51Speaker 6: All right. It's great, Thank you.
- 32:52Speaker 1: Kick care Mike ol and b joining us right here
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- 33:47Speaker 1: the weekend. Here football Friday coming to a close. So
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- 34:37Speaker 1: Let you know that, all right, one last thing. We'll
- 34:40Speaker 1: just do one last thing. What do you got buck?
- 34:42Speaker 4: So you know, I have my issues with some people
- 34:46Speaker 4: around here that prematurely celebrate uh holidays and yeah, right,
- 34:54Speaker 4: I mean some people chuck that do that. You know
- 34:58Speaker 4: who I'm talking about. And yet I will say this.
- 35:03Speaker 4: I came home was it Tuesday?
- 35:07Speaker 5: I think after.
- 35:07Speaker 1: Work, and Kate had the Valentine's Day cards out already.
- 35:10Speaker 5: No, no, but she did have the Christmas tree taken out.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Oh wow.
- 35:15Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:17Speaker 8: I was like, whoa what, Yeah, I think it was
- 35:21Speaker 8: that day because he's like New Year, it's time to
- 35:25Speaker 8: And it just kind of shook me for a second,
- 35:27Speaker 8: right because I'm one that I loved.
- 35:28Speaker 5: Our Christmas tree is nice Christmas tree. It was very
- 35:31Speaker 5: well decorated. The kids did a good job this year,
- 35:33Speaker 5: and I was just was kind of shocked by it.
- 35:36Speaker 4: Like so the you know, I'm still going to get
- 35:39Speaker 4: on you if you start celebrating whatever draft or something,
- 35:43Speaker 4: you know, before we get to Valentine's Day or Saint
- 35:46Speaker 4: Patrick's Day or Easter or something. But at the same time,
- 35:50Speaker 4: I'm I'm with on the let the holiday linger a
- 35:53Speaker 4: little bit. Oh, I think this is just one where
- 35:55Speaker 4: she's like, well, no, it's like New Year's now New
- 35:57Speaker 4: Year's Eve, it's.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Still bringing you joy if it's still savoring extra joy.
- 36:01Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't discuss it, just it just was gone.
- 36:05Speaker 5: And then I was like, whoa, hey, what happened to
- 36:07Speaker 5: the tree?
- 36:08Speaker 4: She took it all down and put all the decorations
- 36:11Speaker 4: away and wanted to clean up the pine needles and
- 36:13Speaker 4: all this stuff. And so I get it. I'm not
- 36:15Speaker 4: like upset, but it shook me for a second there.
- 36:18Speaker 1: She might have been all joyed out, had my full full,
- 36:23Speaker 1: you know, belly full of America. It's possible, time to
- 36:26Speaker 1: just get back to being normal.
- 36:27Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, maybe that's maybe that's what it was.
- 36:30Speaker 5: She so full of joy she didn't eat anymore.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Yeah, she was full all right? Andrew what you got
- 36:35Speaker 1: for one last thing really quick?
- 36:37Speaker 9: I know those who are just starving for some stove contents.
- 36:41Speaker 9: I apologize that we didn't come up with an episode
- 36:45Speaker 9: this week, but Chuck and I will be back on
- 36:47Speaker 9: it next week. Get you guys something early and react
- 36:51Speaker 9: to the baseball's off season news.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Were back on it, dog on it. Yeah, Blackers. That
- 36:58Speaker 1: really hasn't been anything not Mariners Mariners related. And even
- 37:02Speaker 1: the stove is gone cold for the holidays. It really
- 37:05Speaker 1: has so, but it has to heat back up. I mean,
- 37:08Speaker 1: we're not that far away from pitchers and catchers, like
- 37:11Speaker 1: six weeks. Yep.
- 37:13Speaker 5: Uh yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 4: I actually got a text from my friend Gina. She
- 37:15Speaker 4: said the other day she goes, hey, happy baseball. So
- 37:19Speaker 4: Solstice Day it was the exact middle between the final
- 37:23Speaker 4: pitch of the World Series and the first pitch of
- 37:24Speaker 4: spring dream.
- 37:26Speaker 1: Yeah, oh nice. Yeah, with that, they got one more
- 37:31Speaker 1: big move in. They got one more big coming between
- 37:34Speaker 1: now and in spring training.
- 37:37Speaker 5: I'm ready. By the way, gess you guys are still
- 37:40Speaker 5: officially retired.
- 37:42Speaker 1: Yeah see these bad boys sign Yeah, Blucky's ready to go.
- 37:46Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you on Monday. Enjoy the weekend,
- 37:49Speaker 1: Enjoy tomorrow night's game. Of course, Monday morning quarterback starting
- 37:52Speaker 1: at six a m. We'll recap all of it for
- 37:56Speaker 1: you right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three
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