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#44 - TikTok's Uncertain Future: What's Next for the Platform? · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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So we have real time real time this is live baby
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does i see i love live stuff it's it's more it's
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more real but uh what so what
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do you think about what i'm saying about like we are on the precipice i
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just feel like the tiktok ban happening like we don't
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i don't think anyone knows what's going to happen on sunday when
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tiktok it could cease to exist or it
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could just be shut off for temporarily did trump say what he's
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going to do with it i think he's going to try to he said
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he's going to support it he's going to try to do something to bring it
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back bring it back but it's it's like in that little
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in-between phase like a day before he takes office
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and then also because really the real deal is the
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businesses the like apple google the
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businesses that they're out there they can be heavily fined like it
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was like like hundreds of million dollars millions of
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dollars it sounded like per user like for
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each like day or it was something crazy it was like billions of
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dollars that they could be fined if but but
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biden did say that he is not going to enforce it
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this little short window he has what so have
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you been keeping up with this jesse all i see is on tiktok everybody talking
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about it you know and everybody knows the titanic is going down and it's like
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we got some people that are just still playing you know playing their violins
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you know some people are keeping their cool some people are trying to cowardly
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try to sneak on the boats you know you know the the.
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Men you know the men trying to just sneak off whatever i'm just
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just saying you know from the movie titanic leonardo dicaprio
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you know i'm a little he's my i got i guess i got a man crush on leo you know
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he's he's the guy he's i loved him so much early on but i mean his acting career
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like he is i think the best actor out there so i like him too you know yeah over like he he's.
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The quintessential actor best best man out
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there no one rivals the one in revenant or
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he remember was that what it was called when he
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is like that really tough guy and he had he got
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mauled mauled by a bear yeah and then
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do you remember like he hid inside a it wasn't
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a bear he was a moose or something like
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that he uh yeah yeah i remember that he hid
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inside a moose you know inside one it wasn't
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a moose it was even hiding it was like or was it just to stay warm yeah it was
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just to stay warm yeah i could talk about leo all day long you know leo okay
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so i i wanted to talk you know mainly about like you know just because like
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trump is going into office on monday you know everything is going to be flipped.
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Upside down you know and did you hear about
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middle east has the middle east has struck peace you
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know before he's even taken taken office yikes it's
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like are they going to credit that to biden though it happened during his
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time yeah i mean anybody in politics is going
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to take credit for anything good and they're going to blame it on someone else for anything
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bad so it's like trump biden's already saying
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that he's going to take credit for whatever happens like
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economically you know when when trump takes office he's
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it's because he built that foundation but i mean
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but every president does that you know like every president
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is blaming the one before or taking credit for something
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you know and it's just politics yeah but
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i mean politics i mean it's it's it's an ugly word but
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it's it's also i mean it's the it's
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the best entertainment we got you know i mean sports can
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distract us and everything but like politicians are making
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real how our lives are affected you know
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like truly you know we it's not very entertaining to
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me it's entertainment to me it's like it's fun to watch you
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know it gives me anxiety it does not at all to me
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you know you know like i mean it what either
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way it would have went like who would have won i would have
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been okay with it and i think we all would have been okay with it.
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No one's whoever's our president's our president you know so it's
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like i think we're gonna be good either way but like it does
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feel a little bit better that trump is taken off actually
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it feels a lot better that trump has taken office just because
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i mean i feel like we'd relive a lot of stuff you know i think i think we're past
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you know past that i think everything we're moving forward
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it's onward and upward so that's how i feel do you
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think anything's gonna happen on monday like anyone i don't know what do you
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mean who doesn't want this to happen like a january 6th kind of thing no like
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i mean not like that i i mean he has been already two assassination attempts
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is that what you mean like something like that two yeah there's one that he
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actually got shot at and then another that
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I don't think the other guy got any shots off but they just caught him before
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he at his golf course that's right.
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So they stopped it in advance. Oh my gosh.
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But so, yeah, like, I don't know. I want to, I can remember like four years
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ago, Biden being sworn in.
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And I was definitely like, I was, I was, I was, I got behind him.
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You know, I felt like I, I was hopeful based on his message,
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what he like put out there.
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But I think, you know, that was a tough four years.
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Yeah. It was a tough four years. Kurt said yes. Would you say yes to Kurt?
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Do you think something's gonna happen is that what you said is that
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what you said that i don't know you just said yes yeah or
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maybe kurt what are you thinking tell us
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kurt how are you doing yeah so it's it's a
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pretty insane like situation i think no one in their right mind would have thought
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donald trump would have been president again it's not i if i mean that shows
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you anything can happen i mean he was like sworn off the face of the earth he
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was kicked off of all social media while he was a sitting president.
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He was still president and they kicked him off all social media.
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He tried to tweet from the POTUS Twitter feed and they stopped that.
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Everything, they completely silenced him whenever he left.
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It's like everything's completely flipped now.
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Everything is the most famous people or the wealthiest are now coming towards him.
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You know and like because they seems like all the business minds out there or.
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Rallying behind him they want to be associated with
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him so i mean he's good for
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business right he said lol it's yeah
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it's it's to me i i think he will
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definitely be good for business but a lot of the
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companies out there like they i don't
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know if they're just covering their backs or just jumping on the winning side winning team
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or what but elon musk was
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the one that was actually with him before all
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this you know there's been a lot of crazy moments
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you know and i think and not everyone's a trump
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supporter not everyone wants him but like it doesn't it
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doesn't matter like everybody it's like if if kamala
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would have won she's our president you know like if
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whoever like we can get behind our president
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you know because like we're all americans you know it doesn't
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have to be dividing lines you know like i don't know i'm thankful
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like everybody like you said everyone can just make what their
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the promises happen you know it all sounds good yeah so
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do you think something's gonna happen on monday jesse i don't know like what
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were you thinking when you said that like you know these have like riots and
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stuff what were those about remember they're like like when the january 6th
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happened like that when they used to just stuff happening all over even in like
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down the plaza there was bricks stored oh that was like that was the whole 2020 year like that i.
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I remember that like every city was like popping off
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with a lot of during cova there like that or it was before that no
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it was 2020 it was like going into that election season which
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was crazy because trump was president and i don't
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know like why he he doesn't have
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to be political anymore he's got he's not going
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to have another term after this you know this is this is
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it you know and like who's he gonna set up
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for success after him you know yeah so did starship the huge space x rocket
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blow up oh blow up blow up i don't know is that did something happen i don't
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know what do you know kurt what do you know her what's going on what is what's the starship no what's,
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starship space i'm thinking space space x rocket did something happen there
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what what was that one thing we just you could look it up we don't have we don't
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have a jamie yet we'll have a jamie soon i'll say i'll say jamie can you look
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that up you know joe rogan he has jamie on the web.
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Oh is that what there was something that was like the the star like
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the in the sky that i showed you and then elon even tweeted about it
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it was about i don't know what that was it was like those lights just streaking
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yeah that was that was that the explosion of that or i don't know like because
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i saw i did see that and i i tweeted out this is how war of the worlds was that
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was called war of the worlds what was that movie with tom cruise war of the worlds world worlds.
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It's like when you when you can't say something and you don't say it right the
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first time it loses all meaning you cannot remember it at all i've completely
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lost lost it what are you finding out jasmine you are you are jamie right now
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temporarily halts launches of musk starship after explosion.
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Was that what that was? The explosion happened after the starship's second stage,
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which is slated to carry cargo or astronauts on the way to the moon.
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I don't have time to look at news all day. I wish I did.
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I wish I did. I'm actually at work most of the day, so I'm not devouring the news like I wish I was.
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I wish I was devouring the news nonstop and know what's going on because you
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feel out of the loop when you can't watch news and you don't have social media
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in front of you all day. What's going on?
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Yeah i thought you're gonna say something oh space s
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test flight exploded and debris rained toward
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the caribbean maybe that's what he tweeted because he actually tweeted that
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out about but i don't i whenever i first saw it was like somebody saying it's
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it's starting it's beginning like almost like the end of the world's happening
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or i can i i mean that makes me like when it when the end of the world starts
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happening it's like there ain't no going back you know it's like we're.
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Checking our phones but then it's like we might lose it
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might be like an emp going off and just bam
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you know it's it's like we lose all connection i
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mean like right now we are able to communicate across the
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world right now anybody that's like across the seas
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i feel every like i keep thinking you're about to say something no no
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okay but yeah like i like we can like communal communication
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lines are up and it's like imagine them going down and
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we're just immediately isolated you know that's
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we i i'm not i'm not a doomsday person yes
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no i'm not i'm not a doomsday person i'm i try
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not to be a doomsday person but it's like i always i'm all i'm
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a prepper at heart in my mind i wish i
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was more like in like actual stuff in
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real stuff you know but i i wouldn't.
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Know how to start a fire i if i if we didn't have a lighter
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i i probably could figure it out you know you
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know you've kind of if if if the stuff hits the fan
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it's like anything we we got
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to make it happen you got to go we got to figure out like there ain't
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no going back we got to actually hunker down we actually got
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to learn how to move on with life but do
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you think anything like that will ever happen in our lifetime no it feels
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like it we always think something's gonna happen but like
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who are we in like the whole span of history that something's gonna
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happen with i can remember like in the 2000 before
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2010 like that's when i started actually watching the news
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and started i originally i started watching glenn beck
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on fox news i saw him and that was my favorite show i
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loved watching that and he was the first one that like kind of like i
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even got the idea of like you need to prepare you
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need to start having food for your family and
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but it's that's like almost 20 years now and
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it's nothing's significantly happened we're
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still going and we've never really
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bought a storage like like what are those
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the food things survival kits or
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whatever it's like where you have food for a long time but it's like whenever
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something actually does happen you know we would.
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Wish we would have that you know like we have some stuff stocked up
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but maybe not like that like how long would that actually last
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us probably not ever because there's only vegetables in
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those cans and we need to learn how to can
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and we need to learn how to have a can out there have yeah does anyone know
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how to can does it does anyone know how to like have a root cellar i i always
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thought a root cellar would be awesome but like i'm i feel like we've hit kind
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of bottom and we're ready to launch i feel like 2025 we're ready to launch this year.
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Especially i mean we are it's actually happening like i
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can remember like two months ago he got elected and it was kind of a boring
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two months i mean it wasn't like he's been making stuff happen he's definitely
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he's put trump has put together his cabinet of people which have been a lot
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of rock stars a lot of amazing people you know none of them i think were bad choices at all,
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you know matt gates he did not make the final
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cut but he was he would have been awesome i think
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and i mean like a lot of guys in there are going to start
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cleaning house and seriously draining this
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up i'm just like interested to see what actually happens whenever
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because i mean like the guys that he's like picked are like awesome like pete
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hegseth he's the one who was like kind of under the the microscope recently
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in front of congress and having to answer questions did you see any of that
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what just happened with all that i mean they were like the democrats were just just.
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Brutal i mean they were bringing up his like like you
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have like a kid out of wedlock or something or you cheated on
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someone and just like and he's such a good man he's such like
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a good guy and he's like a military like he
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was in the military he was mainly like a person like a host on fox news but
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like he just like took it and he did not react at all in a way that would be
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like easily impulsive to react when somebody's just attacking your your your
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character and everything about you You know, and he's just, I don't know.
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I don't know if I could do it.
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I would, I would, it would come, it would bleed out of me. Like I would,
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I would be hard for me to hide stuff.
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You would, people would be able to tell if I was starting to feel uncomfortable.
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You know, I'm not good at like, I don't, I don't know. I know.
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You don't know. You don't know. Maybe I would be awesome. Maybe I would be like
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a Navy seal under pressure.
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You know, maybe I would be, you never know. And when stuff happens,
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it's like, that's when your true colors show,
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you know, you can't you can all say be all talk but then
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when something happens that shows you who you are and it's
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like i hope that that goes well into someone being
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under fire and it's showing who they are like trump being shot at and like all
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like i can't the stuff that he's been through is like insane like the the fire
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he's been put through and he just doesn't even age like i mean he's definitely
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aged but like not like any other president you know stress doesn't affect Tim like others?
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I don't think I don't know I don't know how in the world Have you seen pictures
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of like before they took office then after they are just like the stress of
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the job you can just see on their face and their hair and their body.
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Brock obama definitely you definitely tell like i
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mean four years or eight years it's gonna age you anyway but it just
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seems like oh my gosh i mean how hard that job would
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be like the weight of the world like literally yeah it's like but it would be
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awesome nobody wants to give it up i mean nobody like you are like the most
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powerful man in the world why you think anybody wants to give it up who would
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want to give that up what i don't know i'm just i'm just not ambitious i guess I'd be like,
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let someone else do it. That's too much power. Who cares?
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I don't, I don't want to work that hard, I guess.
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No, I mean, I'm not saying like just power in itself, but just like,
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I mean, if you have like the presidential office, that would be just,
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you know, your life is mattering, you know, like you, I mean,
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you'd have to make, be making decisions constantly.
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I mean, you'd have to be like, but that's why Biden's presidency was such an anomaly.
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So it was so different. You know, it did not feel like he was in charge.
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Did you feel like? it didn't feel like it did not like a puppet yeah if it did
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not feel like he was the one making decisions and it's like i just remember
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him talking about the other world leaders and the other people doing something
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to america or not to america maybe it was other countries.
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Invading other countries and kamala and
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biden were like their message was don't don't and
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that's all they said and that was their thing and then trump is
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like if we don't have our hostages back by the time
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i take office there's gonna be hell in
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the middle east and now it's like happening like
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before he takes office there's peace between hamas peace between israel and
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and i mean like the hostages i'm assuming are getting ready to be released hopefully
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i mean he said if they don't take what because they have american citizens hamas
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had american citizens as hostage you know But I mean,
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I'm looking forward to it because it's not going to be like it was the last time he took office.
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Because before he even was sworn in, they started the whole Russiagate thing.
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It was all about he was in cahoots with Russia and all that.
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And that's all we heard the whole presidency.
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And it was over. And then they said, oh, that was just made up.
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That was all fabricated.
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And it's like everybody just moved on. And he's like he's been impeached twice.
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He's a convicted felon. And he's like, and it's like, none of these things are real or anything to me.
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He like, he is in my opinion, I know this probably will definitely rub a lot of people wrong way.
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I think he's been, he's like the best president in the United States history.
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Maybe, I mean, the other two you go to is George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
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But to me, the impact and the influence that he's made on the direction of our country.
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Is just not comparable with anyone else
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to me the biggest thing you know is definitely how he
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stepped in and the the conservative justices
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that he put in place to overturn roe v wade you
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know which i mean he brought
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it back to the states or he put the judges in
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place to to do that you know to overturn
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that so it's not just a law across the
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united states and i mean everybody has
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different opinions about that i i mean but it's then it's
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it's now decided each state you
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know that's i don't know i can't can't abortion is
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like that's a very hot topic you know you know
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it always will be you know and it's not like it's just something for
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our day and age it's probably been something years before that
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you know the i just think like the
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christians in like the first century they were the ones known for
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people would do exposure they'd put their children out there they don't want
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them or they can't take care of them maybe like they would put them out there
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to just die and the christians were the ones that came along and i don't understand
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that and they were the ones that get like i took them in mostly girls you know
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because how can someone do that i don't know.
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I don't know i don't i i but i all the the i i mean it's one thing when you
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don't see the child but it's like when you actually see it and you go through
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all the pain and the anguish of having it and the sickness and everything and then there's oh it's a.
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Girl or usually that they just let the girls out there right
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and why why is people obsessed with having
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boys why are people like why is that such a thing like
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why is that like i mean i i understand like
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if we need to go to war and but like
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why is having boys like that is like it's not
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as good if it feels like people like make it oh you got a boy you
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know sometimes you know or it's like to me
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but why is that like and it's not it is primarily it
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seems like it's not like just guys are
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like that you know i mean you see it from both guys and
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girls i know i don't like it but i mean everybody's
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everybody thinks one way or you know it's everybody's different everybody's
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different nobody's the same we're all unique
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we're all we all i
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mean just god has made us we have our own identity we're
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like there's no other brandon out there there's no
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other brandon out there but but i have heard i did have
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my uncle and my aunt once say that like they felt like
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they he was in the hospital my uncle was in the hospital and their
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their nurse was a guy and he looked.
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Just like me and he had the same mannerisms he
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was exactly like me and they told me that and i
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was like it wasn't me so maybe there was a guy out
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there like me it's funny yeah you know like uh maybe i'm
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a nurse in a multiverse in the
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in the multiverse you know you know what i'm saying it's this
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is this is good times this is like i'm just pumped because
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i really i was thinking about this earlier today
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like just how the the months of the year this is
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january january it like feels like a blur and it
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feels like and not in a good way january is just like to
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me it's just like i feel like i'm in a dream state and i start waking up kind
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of coming awake in february and then march and april that's when things like
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start like every year it feels like every year march and april and then may
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it's like this is awesome and then there hits a lull in summer and And then
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towards the end of the year,
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it's like it's back to like, you know, holiday season. It's fun.
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But is anyone else out there like that? Like this time of year,
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January, I don't know if it's just gray skies and it's just clouds or,
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or what, but it just doesn't feel like I feel like I'm in a dream state.
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Me too. Like the time just goes by so fast. I'm working on stuff and it's just
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hours have gone by. It feels like I've got nothing done.
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lady. You don't like being called a lady, do you?
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Why not? You'd rather be called a woman or a girl? That's weird.
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Lady just sounds older. Yeah, lovely lady.
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Lucky lady. You're a lucky lady. what's that
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from doug i don't know i but i
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know i remember that but i don't know what that's from either yeah i
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think it is so i i i said last week i was
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gonna try like i'm gonna have a daily i wanted
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to get it set up a daily kind of stream that i do
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myself and still keep the friday night with me and jesse
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doing this stream but just did not have did not
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have the vertical the vertical did not launch does that
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mean i my uh my didn't get up no no i
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i was not i wanted to get it set up so like kind of i could
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record in vertical and yeah the vertical
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yeah vertical recording yeah baby fancy yeah
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and like and i'm working in the studio you
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know working in the studio and just did not and i've got a couple new technologies
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working through and trying to figure out i am definitely trying to like a lot
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of these things a lot of these things that people with technology comes naturally
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i'm sure you know they just pick it up you know and that's why there's computer
23:23
guy. I need a computer guy.
23:26
You're the computer guy. And that's sad. If I'm the computer guy,
23:29
that is sad. That's not a good deal.
23:32
You are measured by the people who considers you the computer guy and the group that you're in.
23:41
I've been nominated that, but I don't think I have what it takes.
23:46
If you guys could only see this conglomeration of computers and tech stuff over here.
23:52
Oh my gosh. It's like it's Megadesk over there. Yes. Like 14-meter desk.
24:00
Megadesk, yes. it is something to behold something to behold alright Jesse so
24:06
what are you going to do when TikTok is no longer existent and I hope that's
24:11
not the case for anyone watching on TikTok,
24:14
put some stuff in there we want to see what you all are thinking if TikTok gets taken away.
24:22
I'll have a lot more time on my hands I think a lot of people will,
24:27
but not in a good way TikTok we've learned
24:30
so much i mean like so much i was
24:33
just watching like a video and just guy saying like
24:36
people come and like seeing what people are
24:39
doing on instagram and they're like they just look so dorky
24:42
and everything like that they're doing a little dance and tick tock tick tock
24:45
people like that was like two years ago it's like
24:48
tick tock is like always it's a lot faster pace and
24:51
it's just a different type of community i love tick
24:54
tock i love tick tock it's just i i i never
24:58
got good at the dances i never got good at the
25:00
dances and i but maybe maybe there's still time maybe
25:03
maybe someday i'll be on dances with the stars and i'll learn
25:06
how to get some rhythm what do you think what do you think jesse you
25:09
haven't done your movie quote in a while i'm i know i haven't you
25:12
know i just i haven't i haven't i don't
25:15
know what i i think i think it's that haze that dream.
25:18
State that i feel like i am i need leonardo dicaprio
25:21
in inception to come rescue me out
25:24
of this dream state i'm in like the third level of
25:28
dream you know and i need someone to just they why
25:31
did they never make an inception 2 that was such a good
25:33
movie that was an awesome movie i can't
25:36
think of really any movie he's done that's not been great i never watched
25:39
that something about gilbert grape yeah that was
25:42
like him and like but that was the one that kind of put him on the
25:45
map i think that's what like he got really famous for he
25:48
was in that and then i mean like most of my favorite movies are
25:51
his like he is like the hands down best actor like no one's better than him
25:56
even the movie wolf of wall street like he was awesome in that and even though
26:00
that movie is pretty like it has a lot of a lot of stuff in it and a lot of
26:05
stuff you know i like beware yeah beware if you check that one out.
26:10
He was just i just seen like video clips of
26:13
him like getting ready to do a shoot and it's like he just as i'm
26:16
sure like a lot of actors do they just go in like an like a
26:19
different state like he's just like the camera's about
26:21
to go on he's just like he's just like he just changes completely oh
26:25
my gosh it's just it's it's really cool i am
26:28
i love acting i love movies that we're actually gonna
26:30
go see a movie this weekend wolfman that looks
26:34
really good i that's what i've been wanting to see you don't
26:37
know anything about that you don't remember that i don't want to give anything thing
26:39
away and i don't i i don't even like to watch trailers i
26:43
don't like to watch trailers because i don't want to know anything about a movie but
26:46
you got to know a little bit about a movie before you want to go see it i
26:49
guess but jesse there's a lot of last a lot of last things happening you know
26:55
right now we're getting ready we're stepping into the unknown are you ready
26:59
to step into the unknown i mean it's the i don't i don't believe politicians
27:05
anymore do you believe politicians? No. Why not?
27:08
They never do what they say. Because it is like anything that's happening,
27:12
I mean it's their job, you know, they're just, they're putting on a show a lot
27:16
of the times, you know, and it's just to get in with the crowd and be liked.
27:20
It's a popularity contest, contest and all that and it's nothing, it's.
27:25
You know nothing you can't really if you have to take it
27:27
with a grain of salt a lot of things they say and a lot of things they do you know
27:30
it's like i don't know i don't buy
27:33
it don't buy it jesse but there are a lot of laughs anything any
27:36
other final things that you think that were kind of different does
27:40
like am i the only one that this friday feels weird
27:43
like this weird like i and i knew it would be like
27:46
this i knew it would be like this like i was expecting
27:49
it in what way the presidency or the
27:52
presidency and then also in tiktok tiktok it's
27:55
like that like i keep thinking tiktok is actually not really gonna go away i will
27:59
be really surprised if i click on there and it's gone it will
28:02
have to be on sunday it'll have something's gonna it's gonna
28:05
probably direct us to some page that's you know
28:08
it's like a electrical cord with a cat biting
28:11
through it and it says i don't know technical difficulties yeah
28:14
i mean they would have to strike some type of deal i don't
28:17
know it's like something's gonna happen it's so crazy that's how
28:20
a lot of people make their living but i
28:23
mean it's gonna like probably be stopped for a bit but
28:26
then it will they're gonna figure out something but it's all about like it has
28:30
to be bought by an american company has to be released by this by bite dance
28:35
you know they're the ones the that own it and they're the ones that like i mean
28:39
there's not really a separation between business and the state in china you know.
28:45
But I mean, we talk about this all the time. I'm not too concerned about China watching me.
28:50
But I mean, are you out there? Are you all like, do you feel weird if China
28:54
knows everything about you?
28:56
I mean, they make it. Just like the kind of videos you watch or like,
28:59
how can they get any more?
29:01
They just know you're buying patterns and like what you. I know it's like.
29:06
Know by buying patterns and get me more things like that. I know. I'm not too.
29:10
I know China, they say, is like our biggest threat. I mean, but maybe they are.
29:15
I, to me, I don't think they are at all. It doesn't, it doesn't feel like that. Like, I don't, I, I,
29:21
I think I need to kind of gain some knowledge on that, like,
29:24
because I don't, I don't see them as, you know, that is why I'm like kind of the, the odd, odd guy.
29:29
Cause I don't match up with anything specific.
29:32
Like, you know, feel like people that are conservative, they have to.
29:36
You know, like they're all against kind of China and all against like all these
29:40
other, I'm not too worried about it.
29:42
Are you, I try not to concern myself with it. I think most people don't,
29:45
aren't concerned with it. You know, I just thought like that.
29:49
I wouldn't even know his name, but like, it's a guy i really like on
29:51
tiktok and him and his dad they're walking off they're like we're
29:54
going to china you know it's that one guy he's uh yeah
29:57
there's so many out there but i probably wouldn't it's his the
30:00
son and his dad they're always doing videos together really like
30:03
new york accent yes okay yeah they're saying
30:06
like they're walking off to china you know because why because it's
30:10
getting shut down here you know and like we're only like gonna
30:13
go to china so they can be on tiktok yeah it's they
30:16
don't absolutely need the u.s but it's
30:19
definitely going to hurt them you know having a u.s
30:22
market is definitely like they're going to be able to survive but
30:25
it's like they need that's why i'm sorry i'm
30:29
wondering what's actually going to happen because i don't
30:32
see tiktok actually because a lot of
30:35
people that are very wealthy even elon stepped into the
30:38
conversation but that o'leary guy
30:41
him and these guys they're trying to buy tiktok but
30:44
tiktok does not want to they'll sell the platform but they
30:48
will not sell the out their algorithm like tiktok has
30:51
its own specific algorithm that makes it so
30:54
good it's like they've they built up like
30:57
this platform but it's the algorithm that is what
31:00
is the engine of it you know and i mean
31:03
if they did sell the platform without that i mean whoever bought
31:06
it would have immediate like access to like millions of
31:09
people right away but could they make it
31:12
keep it as good as it is what do you think jesse i don't know switching gears
31:15
a little bit kurt said i think i saw where they moved the presidential swearing.
31:18
In ceremonies inside the capitol they said because of cold oh because of cold
31:22
is that an excuse i mean i don't it's probably a good idea i mean he's behind
31:26
bulletproof like he's behind bulletproof like screening or anyways but like.
31:31
Because of cold i i don't doubt it but like i don't know i i they need to do
31:37
everything in their power to protect him you know i mean i think we've got past the window of some,
31:43
say Trump did get assassinated now. What if he did?
31:47
It wouldn't be as... I mean, it would be terrible, obviously.
31:51
But we're past that window of whoever J.D. Vance would be the one who would
31:57
take the office, take the home.
31:59
It wouldn't... So it's like people that are the crazies out there that would try to do something.
32:05
One, they don't have... If the Biden administration was somehow...
32:10
Doing something to allow because that first
32:14
assassination attempt like that was insane that a shooter
32:17
was able to get that close and that
32:20
to actually happen and they were told he's right there do
32:23
you see him oh yeah don't don't do anything right i
32:27
don't like it like everything that came up it was just you it
32:31
was hard not to be conspiratorial when that
32:34
happened and i think a lot of people like like
32:37
what you know that was just but it's like now at
32:40
this point like if something did happen it wouldn't what
32:42
would be the gain of the person doing it you know just because they don't like
32:45
him he's his party is one you
32:48
know so but it's like before he's sworn in if he did get assassinated
32:51
would it go to jd vance or would it go to whoever the speaker
32:54
is because there's always that deal and but i
32:57
think mike johnson's the speaker anyways how all
33:00
that you know there's there's different there's different laws people have
33:03
we have thousands of laws on the books you know and why
33:07
why they're that way i don't know jesse do you think
33:10
i think i think i think you need to understand the the
33:13
gravity of what we are stepping into okay you don't think so i'm just i'm excited
33:18
about it i think i don't think anything like crazy is gonna happen i don't think
33:22
so but like it to me it is it does feel like we're moving on you know it's almost
33:29
like the new year that we're into the new year already but what do you think about all that.
33:33
Do you think some people that don't like Trump, that they kind of like secretly
33:37
like, oh, but I'm a business owner and I know it's going to be better for me,
33:41
but I'm going to say that. They don't want to say that because.
33:44
Do you think? Not now. I mean, everybody, like, I think now people are definitely,
33:49
you know, on the Trump train.
33:50
I think most like business people out there, you know, and why,
33:54
what do you, you don't think that?
33:56
That's what I'm saying. No one's going to say it, but like, they might not like him personally.
34:00
A lot of people don't like him personally but they could be
34:03
really he his policies could be really good but even
34:06
like i mean i think a lot of people just their taste of
34:09
him has definitely changed it's not like it was can
34:12
you admit that jesse you're you're the you're the you're on
34:15
the ground what's the what's i don't what's the i'm trying to think what's that
34:19
word the scuttlebutt is that like what people say like what's the scuttlebutt
34:23
i have no idea i just i hear things in the background when you have it on but
34:28
you like nobody's really talking about this type of stuff nobody you still can't
34:31
like in like in regular public just bring it up you know people
34:35
they're not going to be too pleased like or it just
34:38
makes people uncomfortable you know a little bit but it's
34:40
it's it's a lot that's why it's easier to just talk about it on the internet you
34:43
know or just talk about with people over that and one-on-one conversation
34:46
you know it's but i'm i'm pumped i'm excited
34:49
about it but what's that what else is happening jesse what else
34:52
is going on what in your life what is
34:55
happening anything tell me tell me your deepest thoughts
34:59
what do you think of life tell me what you think of life mean what's the meaning
35:04
of life you ask me that i'll say something what no i i want to hear you no just
35:10
go i want to hear what you got what you think you're you got wisdom you got
35:15
wisdom lady you got wisdom got that wisdom.
35:20
That was from our not our youngest daughter but our that was from Bonnie.
35:25
Sophie when she was younger she would say she would bug Bonnie and Bonnie was
35:28
a little bit like little kid and she would go,
35:31
And that's become a thing. Now Jesse says it to me.
35:34
Because I bug her. Jesse? So what do you think? What about the Chiefs?
35:38
What about NFL? What's going on over there?
35:40
You tell me. I don't know. Do you even know when they're playing?
35:44
Tomorrow at 3.20. No. Tomorrow? Yes. That's what I said. But not at 3.20. When?
35:52
3.30. Same thing. Central time. I hope it's Central time. Because we got Bonnie's
35:57
game at 2 o'clock. Who wrote that schedule?
36:01
We'll be back in plenty of time. And shouldn't it be amended for the Chiefs
36:04
game? We'll be back in plenty of time.
36:06
I don't know. I think I like watching Bonnie more than the Chiefs sometimes. I do, too. I do, too.
36:12
I don't know. It's Bonnie. I mean, yeah.
36:16
I don't know. It's apples and oranges. Oh, yes. It's different.
36:19
Apples and oranges. Apples and oranges.
36:22
So, but we'll make it back. We're going to see that.
36:26
And hopefully i sports used
36:29
and they still do crush me at times but i'm like i'm
36:32
not as invested as i used to be in sports
36:35
i mean i used to be like and i mean if say the
36:38
chiefs did lose like you're like maybe a
36:41
few years ago like i mean i would be heartbroken i'd be
36:44
sad but i remember i used to be like i would be
36:47
wake up the next morning devastated you know
36:50
what i mean just like devastated like if you're if your sports team like you
36:53
just sad you know or definitely sad and i would
36:56
still be sad i would i would i would be sad i wouldn't be
36:59
happy about it i think we are just spoiled in kansas
37:02
city it's like the even the thought of us not
37:04
winning it's hard to even comprehend at this time it's it
37:07
really is and but it's that's it's not like
37:10
it's not good to be like that because we are
37:13
definitely capable of losing it's mahome seems
37:17
like he pulls it out every time but there's something happening like
37:20
with in sports it's not just like x's and
37:23
o's i mean there's deeper levels happening
37:26
you know i mean i go to the spiritual you
37:29
know i feel like even like why certain things happening
37:32
like even in our life you know in our life it.
37:35
Says there's spiritual forces at battling you know
37:38
for the the fight of people's souls you know that
37:41
we don't see that's happening and it's like that's got
37:44
even be taking place in some form or
37:47
fashion even with sports because i
37:50
mean how sports teams do that is definitely changing
37:53
the trajectory of this world and like it like it
37:56
does it does it like if one sports
37:59
team wins you know like it's gonna throw certain new
38:02
stars into the limelight or spotlight or whatever i mean i i just i don't think
38:08
it's just how good someone's prepared as opposed to the other team and how they.
38:13
Prepared or luck doesn't have to have anything to do with it there's so many
38:17
things that are happening that are have to be influencing who wins you know,
38:23
To me, it's not just like, why do you think one team goes up in a game and they're
38:27
winning, they're doing so good, and then you just know the other team is going to come back?
38:32
And it's always going to be, it has to be close.
38:35
I think God almost makes it entertaining for us, you know, in a sense.
38:40
I feel like that. I mean, he knows who's going to win.
38:44
Yeah. But he always allows somebody to come back. It's never just,
38:49
for the most part, it's always down to the wire.
38:52
Always it's just mental it's mental the the
38:55
people who are up they're like oh we got it in the bag and then they slack off
38:58
and then the other one's like no we'll show them it's all mental something's
39:02
happening to me something it's not just i see it
39:05
in my own sports teams it's just that you're you gotta conquer
39:08
the mental game first but no team
39:11
ever just completely runs away with
39:13
it you know maybe they're all professionals it's like
39:17
they always come back the chiefs are always in a
39:19
tight game every game every every week
39:22
we don't just kill anyone and i and maybe that's a
39:25
good thing because it wouldn't be as exciting if we were completely just
39:28
obliterating teams it wouldn't maybe maybe
39:31
my homes is doing that because he wants us to have a good time or he wants our
39:35
he wants our hearts to hurt a little bit i don't know but he and it's like sometimes
39:39
it's just like i don't know in sports and i've seen it even from from when i
39:42
played in high school it's like sometimes that you just lose it in your eyes
39:46
and it's like you feel like it's it's over you know.
39:50
I was going to say, after a game in high school, were you devastated?
39:54
But you never did until the very last game. My class, we lost in like,
40:01
like in jv and stuff like that yeah and like freshmen
40:04
did we redust it at that no i
40:07
not really i mean the main all that matters is varsity and varsity
40:10
they're winning every game you know and i didn't start until i was
40:13
senior year but like we did have some people in my class that started before
40:16
senior year and it's like so but i
40:19
can remember like the game that we lost it's just like i just
40:23
i felt like not like players but.
40:26
Like just you just you just they lost
40:29
it in their eyes like we you know we before
40:32
you actually lost when you were losing it felt like it it
40:35
felt like it like it because you've never done that before because and
40:38
it was we had some like our best player got hurt
40:41
in the first play at first play of the game our best
40:44
and then like and just things just it's you
40:47
things it doesn't seem like it's meant to be or something like
40:50
that and i don't know and you replay
40:53
some things in your mind you're like whatever and it's you feel
40:55
like we just i don't know and it was a team that we'd already beaten
40:58
it was like it was it was like something was against us
41:01
something said you weren't gonna win this it
41:04
felt like i don't know and that's why i think there is
41:07
that might be kind of weird and people don't think
41:10
about that i think there's bigger things out there than just sports i think that are
41:12
even influencing sports because i mean
41:15
the spiritual world is influencing everybody's lives because
41:18
it's concerned about everybody's lives you know like the enemy
41:21
is wanting men's souls as much as the as much as god wants men's souls you know
41:28
and there's this battle that's happening i mean it's still part of life why
41:31
do we have to segregate this is sports now this has nothing to do with god this
41:35
has nothing to do it's a spiritual world you know it's it's the same,
41:40
There's not this, this is, you know, this is divine. Yes. Yeah.
41:46
Everything is a part of it. Everything is influenced by it to me.
41:49
Nobody ever has anyone else ever thought about that? I've never really thought about that.
41:52
I think it is. I think it's, I mean, I don't think God is like,
41:55
oh, I hope Tom Brady wins this weekend or, or I'm going to make Tom Brady win.
41:59
But like, I think there's something out there that is, you know, I mean.
42:03
Things can happen, not just your physical ability, but definitely your mental
42:06
state, you know, and like the unseen world is the battle of the minds that's
42:11
what's happening it's a battle of people's minds,
42:14
you know and satan can bring us down like in
42:17
a second you know just by putting a cloud over our mind
42:20
and not letting us see you know and so it's like if you're
42:22
not thinking clearly on the game field like i don't know i don't think
42:25
he has that power what do you mean you can't just do that
42:28
do what cloud your mind he doesn't have any power
42:31
over that why what do you mean you don't think so
42:34
can satan read our mind no you don't
42:37
think satan can read our mind i've always heard that he can't either because
42:40
only god can but it definitely feels like he can it
42:44
definitely feels like the demonic world like i think it's our own sin nature
42:47
remember it says that leads you or stray or something but it feels like you
42:51
get tripped up and it feels like if like you know like that spiritual realm
42:56
is just watching me right now like a satan he's just he's just so familiar with me.
43:01
He knows what I'm thinking by just looking at me, but he's not actually reading my mind.
43:05
Because I've heard that too, that only God is the one who can see what we are thinking.
43:09
Maybe that's the case. I don't know. So you think that? Maybe. I don't know.
43:14
He's an angel. He doesn't have that power. He's not an equal with God.
43:19
There's a God column and a Satan column. He's not even...
43:23
Close to god's power what do you all think can
43:26
you know like can i like created things
43:30
can they can they see what we're thinking you know i mean like
43:32
we we have no idea what's happening spiritually like
43:35
in this world like we see the physical and that's all we see but like
43:39
how that is even happening like how how are the like
43:42
you know this angels and demons like battling for
43:45
our will and our mind how are they doing that like how
43:48
can it's hard for me to see how they're doing that without seeing
43:52
that they're reading what we're thinking like are they just
43:54
invisible or something like that and they can just see what we're doing but
43:57
maybe that's it maybe they're just invisible and that i just
44:00
think of it as a different realm that they're in this thought realm
44:03
of whatever and they're like that's how the spiritual
44:07
is it's almost thoughts like something i don't know like it's blowing my mind
44:11
jesse what i need to know i need to know these things i need to understand i
44:17
need to know what people think and i feel like i don't see anything because
44:20
i i need i'm gonna download like where i can just see the chat right in front
44:23
of me directly directly but.
44:25
We i wish we're gonna get that so we can actually probably just see it on the
44:27
the wall you know like the the screen you know i'll say jamie pull that up pull that up
44:34
i don't want to see that let me see if i can pull anything
44:37
up with this because i i picked i clicked in something a little bit
44:40
ago i was like ah i started talking i don't know i haven't heard
44:43
him crying yet he's doing pretty good i'd say
44:46
man i'm i'm seeing myself on there like gosh
44:49
this is the camera add 20 pounds because i'm
44:52
looking big looking looking looking toy looking what
44:56
gargantuan i i i see i that
44:59
always happens whenever like i found that work and i see myself on
45:01
the screen i mean like i gotta suck her in yeah i
45:04
gotta flex a little bit on the screen like wherever if we're ever on something
45:08
i think i was slouching yeah there we go looks and looking good but like is
45:13
that a real thing does the you need to do a little dance over there jesse do
45:17
a little dance do more of a dance
45:19
because it's it's kind of like focused really on me right now where is.
45:23
Where's who okay there i can actually see kind of the body said hey yeah well
45:29
it's i i set up the new new colors i can see it on the screen right there so
45:33
yeah we got we got our entourage out there where'd she say hey on i can i can
45:37
just see it on the screen itself she said right here what,
45:42
Are you looking at the same thing I am? No. Jesse, tell me your thoughts.
45:48
See it on the screen itself.
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See right there. Turn it down. See, that's what I'm talking about.
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I didn't want to click on something and start doing that.
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But at least I do look like the guy off of, what is that? Star Wars.
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You know, that little goblin guy thing.
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Jabba? Is that what it is? Do I look like Jabba?
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Jabba the Hutt? I think that's what I look like.
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I haven't been in the gym lately. We need to start going back.
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I need to start going back.
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You've already stepped in it today. You told me that I need to go back to the gym.
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Don't even say that. You know I don't. I said, you can leave Rowan at my parents'
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house. You can go do whatever. No, you said you can go work out.
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I said, you can go like whatever. You can go do whatever. You can go to the
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Y or whatever. Because you're already in town. You can go work out.
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That's what you said. Why? Jesse, stop.
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Stop. As you looked at my stomach. stop oh my gosh Jesse no,
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no no so Jesse you tell me your thoughts my eyelids are slamming shut why is that you got a condition.
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I've been so tell me what have you been watching lately I've been into this
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guy named Simone de Tremont he's like a Canadian and when he says his name he talks like,
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normal all the time but then when he says his name
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it's got like this amazing accent and he's a he's a camera guy
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simon owned it did did tremont
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it's that guy right there you try to say his name okay we'll
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try to say his name just right how would you say it i'm a
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dead tremont say into the simon dead
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tremont but when he says it it sounds awesome and
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whenever it's like you would believe anything he says when he says his name
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and he's really he's actually really good he's a photographer in canada he has
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a youtube channel i've recently subscribed and i've been watching a lot of his
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videos because i'm trying to get the camera going you know and figure out like the all that okay,
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when i all right jess did you have anything else no i have to go all right we're
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gonna we're gonna take a short break and then we're gonna do a little gaming
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so hang tight you know go go reflow your coffee.