Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Mcdonald's Hires AI Robot in China
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- 0:00McDonald's has actually placed a bipedal humanoid robot built by
- 0:03Keenan Robotics right on a restaurant floor in Shanghai to
- 0:07greet customers like it's wearing a custom red and yellow
- 0:09uniform and everything. Yeah.
- 0:10Seeing a walking, talking machine navigating A crowded
- 0:14fast food space is just startling.
- 0:17It really is. You are looking at a live
- 0:19deployment of embodied artificial intelligence
- 0:22interacting directly with the public.
- 0:24I mean we are looking at the exact point where factory
- 0:26automation bridges the gap and walks right into everyday
- 0:29customer. So if a global burger chain is
- 0:33successfully putting bipedal robots in front of customers
- 0:36today, what happens to the millions of human jobs that rely
- 0:40on the service industry tomorrow?
- 0:41Well, the machine operating inside that Shanghai Science and
- 0:44Technology Museum, McDonald's is specifically the Keenan X Man
- 0:48F1, and to understand why this is working, you really have to
- 0:51look at the physical construction.
- 0:52Right, the hardware. Exactly.
- 0:54It features 43° of freedom, so for context, a standard
- 0:59industrial robotic arm might have like 6° of freedom.
- 1:04Just enough to move up, down, left, right, rotate.
- 1:06Yeah, exactly. But 43° means the machine has
- 1:09individual articulation in its neck, shoulders, elbows, wrists,
- 1:13and even its fingers. It allows for incredibly fluid,
- 1:18highly nuanced physical movement.
- 1:20Movement that actually mimics a human being navigating physical
- 1:23space and driving. All of that articulation is a
- 1:28vision Language action model. Specifically their KOM 2 point O
- 1:32system. Right, because a standard
- 1:33language model just processes text.
- 1:35Yeah, but a vision Language action model does exactly what
- 1:38the name implies. It sees the physical world
- 1:40through cameras, processes, spoken language from a customer,
- 1:43and instantly translates both of those inputs into a physical
- 1:47action. Real time, and the most crucial
- 1:49part of how this operates on a restaurant floor is a concept
- 1:52Keenan calls pro S vocational training.
- 1:54Pro S. Yeah, they're not just giving
- 1:57the robot a general intelligence and hoping it figures out how to
- 1:59work in McDonald's. This software approach
- 2:01deconstructs highly complex service scenarios into
- 2:04independent, completely standardized work modules.
- 2:07So it operates almost like downloading a highly specific
- 2:10job description right into a physical body?
- 2:12Pretty much, yeah. Like, rather than programming a
- 2:14machine from scratch to just wander around a room, you are
- 2:18handing it a digital binder. You tell the system you know you
- 2:22are the greeter. Here are your specific
- 2:25parameters for exactly how to behave when the door opens or.
- 2:29You are the demonstrator. Here is the exact routine you
- 2:32run when a customer asks about a menu item.
- 2:35And the public response in Shanghai reflects how effective
- 2:38that programming really is. Oh, the robot was a massive hit
- 2:42with families eating there because of those 43° of freedom.
- 2:46It was capable of making heart shapes with its hands.
- 2:49Oh, wow. Yeah.
- 2:50It interacted directly with kids responding to their movements.
- 2:53It was actually so well received that customers gave it the
- 2:56nickname Alphabot. That shifts the robot from being
- 2:59just a generalized tool into a specialized employee.
- 3:02I mean, it opens up the ability for corporations to enforce
- 3:05absolute standardization in physical customer service.
- 3:08Right, when a company deploys a system like this, it ensures
- 3:12every single interaction is identical.
- 3:14Every customer gets the exact same greeting, the exact same
- 3:17posture, the exact same level of enthusiasm.
- 3:20It completely removes the variable of human mood or
- 3:23fatigue. And that standardization
- 3:25addresses a massive financial leak in the service sector.
- 3:29The fast food industry currently faces severe turnover, reaching
- 3:33a staggering 150% annually. A. 150%.
- 3:37Yeah, you have restaurants completely replacing their
- 3:40entire staff and then half of them again every single year.
- 3:44Research shows that costs businesses approximately $1600
- 3:48per lost employee. Because of the time spent
- 3:50interviewing, the cost of the uniform, the training shifts.
- 3:54Exactly, plus the inevitable mistakes made along the way when
- 3:57they're new. Meanwhile, McDonald's is pushing
- 3:59to expand to 50,000 global locations.
- 4:03The logistical nightmare of finding, hiring, and retaining
- 4:06enough humans for that with a 150% turnover rate is almost
- 4:11insurmountable. Right.
- 4:12And for context on how automation solves this
- 4:14mathematically, just look at competitor Yum China.
- 4:17What did they do? They managed to grow their store
- 4:19count by 56%. They added thousands of physical
- 4:24restaurant locations to their portfolio, but they kept their
- 4:27human workforce entirely flat at 420,000 people.
- 4:31Wow. They achieved that growth purely
- 4:34through heavy automation. And Keenan's explicit business
- 4:37model fits right into that exact math.
- 4:40They actually refer to themselves as a labor
- 4:42outsourcing company. Yeah, they're not just selling a
- 4:45piece of hardware. No, they're leasing these robots
- 4:48for less than half the cost of human labor.
- 4:51You are basically renting an employee.
- 4:53Think about growing a business by half without hiring a single
- 4:56new person. That is, yeah, yeah.
- 4:58That completely limits the need for future human hiring in high
- 5:02growth markets. It changes the financial math of
- 5:04expansion entirely. It makes robots a required
- 5:07baseline rather than a futuristic luxury.
- 5:10Right. You simply cannot compete if
- 5:12your labor costs are double your competitors because you were
- 5:15paying human wages and absorbing that $1600 turnover penalty.
- 5:19Not while the restaurant across the street is leasing a machine
- 5:22for a fraction of the price. But the X MNF 1 humanoid doesn't
- 5:26actually work alone in these environments.
- 5:28It relies on a matrix of other robots.
- 5:31OK, a matrix. Yeah, the system coordinates
- 5:34directly with Keenan's Diner Bot T series.
- 5:37Those are wheeled robots completely lacking A humanoid
- 5:40shape, and they handle the heavy lifting.
- 5:42Transporting food trays from the kitchen out to the dining room
- 5:44floor, right? Exactly.
- 5:46In some specific hardware configurations, Keenan even
- 5:50swaps the humanoids legs for specialized attachments so the
- 5:53machine can perform highly specific tasks faster than a
- 5:57bipedal walking motion allows. Wait, backup.
- 5:59If they remove the legs, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of
- 6:03having a bipedal humanoid on the floor?
- 6:05You would assume so, yeah. But bipedal movement is really
- 6:07just one tool in the box. Walking on 2 legs is
- 6:10computationally expensive and relatively slow when you're
- 6:14carrying heavyweight. So why have the humanoid at all?
- 6:17Because the humanoid serves as the social, relatable interface
- 6:20for the customer, it provides the smile, the eye contact, the
- 6:23verbal interaction. While the wheeled robots operate
- 6:26as the highly efficient unseen logistics network, moving the
- 6:29actual product around. Exactly.
- 6:31You have a friendly face taking your order while a highly
- 6:34efficient rolling cart handles the actual delivery of the the
- 6:37tray. That changes the vision of
- 6:39automation from a single stand alone machine doing everything
- 6:43to a coordinated swarm of specialized agents working
- 6:46together. And for humanoids to succeed as
- 6:49that social interface, they must be able to mimic human
- 6:53connection convincingly. You see this heavily prioritized
- 6:57in models like the Ahead Form desktop robot.
- 7:00This machine achieves human like connection using tiny brushless
- 7:04motors placed precisely under synthetic skin.
- 7:07To create micro expressions. Yeah, these motors pull and
- 7:10release the material so the robot blinks, softens its eyes,
- 7:14and smiles in perfect synchronization with its speech
- 7:17output. It even implements a short pause
- 7:19and a downward gaze before answering a question to simulate
- 7:22human thought. Which is wild.
- 7:24It is that slight pause is just like a conversational breath,
- 7:27like a response that comes out too fast with 0 hesitation feels
- 7:31completely robotic and unnatural.
- 7:33But programming a one second delay accompanied by a physical
- 7:37hift, an eye contact away from the user and then back, feels
- 7:41remarkably human. It signals to your brain that
- 7:45the entity is processing what you just said.
- 7:47Because people respond fundamentally differently to a
- 7:50physical machine that makes eye contact versus a Voice Assistant
- 7:54on a phone. Definitely.
- 7:55When a physical entity occupies your 3 dimensional space, turns
- 7:59its head to look at you, and physically reacts to your facial
- 8:03expressions, your brain categorizes it differently than
- 8:07a smart speaker sitting on a kitchen counter.
- 8:09And this opens up robotics to handle emotional labor.
- 8:12It changes the role of machines from purely physical workers
- 8:15moving boxes to entities that can address loneliness, provide
- 8:19companionship and elevate customer satisfaction.
- 8:22Yeah, a customer feels heard and respected when the machine
- 8:24taking their order softens its eyes and smiles at them.
- 8:27But operating heavy bipedal robots near humans does carry
- 8:30inherent physical risks. Oh, absolutely.
- 8:32A viral video captured a unitary H1 humanoid robot suffering a
- 8:36severe malfunction while suspended from a crane in a
- 8:38factory setting. It completely lost control of
- 8:42its motor functions. It flailed its arms and legs
- 8:45wildly and dragged its metal stand across the the floor until
- 8:48it smashed a computer. Wait.
- 8:50Hold on, it just started swinging its arms and destroyed
- 8:53a computer. Yes, the erratic movements were
- 8:55intense and highly destructive, and a previous unitary incident
- 8:59even involved a robot lunging unexpectedly toward a crowd of
- 9:02people. That's terrifying.
- 9:04When a machine weighing over 100 lbs loses spatial awareness, it
- 9:08becomes a severe hazard. But Keenan attemts to mitigate
- 9:12these exact risks in their models using reinforcement
- 9:15learning based dynamic balance. Like running simulations.
- 9:18Millions of simulations so the robot learns exactly how to
- 9:21correct its posture if it gets bumped.
- 9:23They also equip the robots with 3D LIDAR, which bounces light
- 9:27around the room to build a real time topographical map of the
- 9:31space. Along with force feedback
- 9:32sensors. Right.
- 9:33Those sensors allow the robot to feel physical resistance,
- 9:36ensuring it can safely navigate tight, crowded restaurant aisles
- 9:39without forcefully colliding with customers.
- 9:42These incidents limit how quickly high mass bipedal units
- 9:45can be deployed in crowded public spaces, though it creates
- 9:48an entirely new category of physical liability for
- 9:51businesses adopting embodied AI. For sure.
- 9:54I mean, a software glitch in a customer service chat bot gives
- 9:57you a weird sentence on a screen.
- 9:59A software glitch in a highly articulated heavy metal biped
- 10:03can cause serious physical damage to a customer or a
- 10:06storefront. And to prevent those errors and
- 10:09allow robots to adapt safely to unpredictable environments,
- 10:13manufacturers are radically upgrading the software brains
- 10:16powering the hardware. Boston Dynamics partnered with
- 10:19Google DeepMind to integrate the Gemini AI model into their
- 10:23Electric Atlas robot, didn't they?
- 10:26Yes, they did. So instead of being rigidly pre
- 10:28programmed to walk a specific path, Atlas can now look at a
- 10:31room, see a box sitting in the wrong place, understand it needs
- 10:34to be moved to a specific bin, and plan The Walking path
- 10:37entirely on its own. Using real time spatial
- 10:40reasoning? Exactly.
- 10:41I have to say, giving a highly strong physical robot the
- 10:43ability to reason and make its own decisions sounds incredibly
- 10:46dangerous. Really.
- 10:48Allowing a machine of that size to improvise its movements
- 10:51introduces a massive variable into a public space.
- 10:55If it decides on its own how to get from point A to point B, you
- 10:59lose the predictability of a programmed machine.
- 11:02I see what you're saying, but reasoning is exactly what
- 11:05prevents the robot from blindly executing a task and walking
- 11:08into a wall or a person. How so?
- 11:10If a pre programmed robot is told to walk exactly 10 feet
- 11:14forward and a child steps in the way at foot 5, the robot walks
- 11:18right into the child because it has no concept of the
- 11:20environment. A reasoning robot understands
- 11:23the environment has changed, recognizes the new obstacle, and
- 11:27instantly stops or alters its path.
- 11:29OK, that's a fairpoint, and Boston Dynamics recently
- 11:32released an unedited video of the research Atlas failing,
- 11:36slipping on ice, and completely collapsing during backflip
- 11:39attempts. Yeah, the machine miscalculates
- 11:40its landing, its joints give out and it crashes into the mat.
- 11:44It proves that the robots learn through making mistakes in
- 11:46complex environments. They're physically testing the
- 11:49limits of their own hardware, building an inherent
- 11:51understanding of gravity, momentum and friction.
- 11:54Which changes robots from rigid pre programmed tools into
- 11:58adaptable workers capable of learning entirely new tasks in
- 12:02less than a day based purely on observation.
- 12:05They're developing A fundamental understanding of physics and
- 12:08spatial relationships, allowing them to operate safely in spaces
- 12:11built for humans. Because attempting to automate
- 12:14physical spaces like fast food with software alone has distinct
- 12:18limits, McDonald's recently had to end its AI drive through
- 12:22trial with IBM. Oh yeah, they attempted to use
- 12:25purely voice based artificial intelligence to take customer
- 12:28orders and the system went viral for severe misinterpretations.
- 12:32It was adding incorrect items like single butter packets to
- 12:35orders. Or ringing up hundreds of
- 12:36dollars worth of Mcnuggets as frustrating customers laughed
- 12:39and repeatedly begged the microphone to stop adding items
- 12:42to the screen. Right, because software only AI
- 12:44struggles with the unpredictable nuances of human interaction in
- 12:47the physical world. Accents.
- 12:49Loud background noise from an engine.
- 12:51Hesitations. Yeah, or a customer changing
- 12:54their mind mid sentence. All of that completely derails a
- 12:57system that lacks physical context.
- 13:00The software only hears the audio, it cannot see the
- 13:03environment. Which is exactly why embodied AI
- 13:06machines equipped with cameras, spatial awareness, and a
- 13:08physical presence is necessary to bridge the gap that chat bots
- 13:12cannot cross. A robot standing on the floor
- 13:15can see if a customer is physically pointing at a
- 13:17specific menu item or if they look visually confused.
- 13:20The machine uses the visual data to add layers of context to the
- 13:23verbal command, allowing it to understand what the human
- 13:26actually wants. This limits the effectiveness of
- 13:29invisible software, only automation.
- 13:32It proves that to truly automate physical spaces, businesses
- 13:36require physical machines that can interpret physical context.
- 13:39You cannot run a restaurant with just a microphone and an
- 13:41algorithm. You need hardware that can
- 13:44observe the room. Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:46The deployment of humanoid robots in places like McDonald's
- 13:49shows that automation is stepping out from behind the
- 13:51counter and into the physical world.
- 13:54It merges social interaction with calculated efficiency,
- 13:57putting a red and yellow uniform on a highly advanced machine to
- 14:01provide a standardized, scalable workforce.
- 14:04But when the friendly, smiling robot handing you a burger costs
- 14:07half as much as a human, how long before human interaction
- 14:10becomes a premium luxury you have to pay extra for?
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