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Gilmore Girls Gazette: Parenthood: Are You Team Mark or Team Hank (Season 4 E9 & E10) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
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  Speaker 1: Y'll more girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and Danielle Romo,
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  Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome to a special episode of Parenthood,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to be the one starting it off
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  Speaker 1: because Daniellelle is not here today because she had a
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  Speaker 1: kid thing, and so Jackie and I are here to
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  Speaker 1: chit chat about our latest two episodes of Parenthood, which
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you quickly are episode nine and ten
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  Speaker 1: of season four. They are you Can't Always Get what
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  Speaker 1: You Want and Trouble in Candyland. Good episodes. Both good episodes,
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  Speaker 1: don't you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? And might I add this week, we've had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of schedule stuff, so this is the third episode
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  Speaker 2: I'm on this week. Phelated for somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. First of all, that's amazing because you
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  Speaker 1: did Gazette, right.
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  Speaker 2: Gazette, I did for Tara because she's in derry duty.
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  Speaker 2: I did tell me, Okay, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, everybody's scrawled back and you can just hear
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  Speaker 1: the Jackie Show all week. So there's a lot to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. But my first question for you is are
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  Speaker 1: you team Hank or are you team Mark?
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  Speaker 2: I'm team Mark. I know that there's chemistry with Hank
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  Speaker 2: looks so funny, but I feel bad for Mark. I'm
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  Speaker 2: like a super empathetic person.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When I watched this the first time,
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  Speaker 1: I was team Mark. Yeah, and it's so weird to say. However,
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  Speaker 1: many years later, when was this on what year? Let's see,
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  Speaker 1: this was on twenty twelve. Yep, so now it's twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six. I can't do the math. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give that as fourteen years. Yes, I have totally switched
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  Speaker 1: to team Hank. It's super weird. I think it's just
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  Speaker 1: because my age. I'm like, oh, I think I just
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  Speaker 1: get them better, Like the whole thing feels better. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I thought a lot about why did she
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  Speaker 1: want to go with Hank to La.
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  Speaker 2: And then Mark explained it at the end.
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  Speaker 1: What did he say explain?
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  Speaker 2: Remind me because at the end when he breaks up
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  Speaker 2: with her at the end of episode ten, he says,
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  Speaker 2: you have these good things and you tend to ruin it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, she's very going after the wounded soldier,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I get that. I totally get that, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he's right. I think he's right. But I also think
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  Speaker 1: she's drawn to Hank and she knows it because I
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  Speaker 1: thought about it a lot, like, first of all, it
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  Speaker 1: was a work thing, and this job is important to her,
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  Speaker 1: and she's never had a job that's like a career, right,
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  Speaker 1: She's been the bartender blah blah blah, So this is
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  Speaker 1: actually a career and it's important. And I know that
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  Speaker 1: if somebody asked me, hey, you have this work thing,
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  Speaker 1: even if I was supposed to go to a wedding
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  Speaker 1: with my boyfriend, I would be like, I gotta figure
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  Speaker 1: out how to do both. I've got to do this
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  Speaker 1: work thing too, you know what I mean, Like, sure,
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  Speaker 1: there's times when you can say I can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's also so drawn to him for a
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  Speaker 1: million reasons that it's why it's pulling her, which is
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  Speaker 1: what makes me this time realize she should be with Hank.
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  Speaker 1: He is the right one for her. Before I actually
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  Speaker 1: thought maybe it was Mark, and now I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's Hank. And I actually started to do some like
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  Speaker 1: you know, cheating, and I looked ahead at some of
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  Speaker 1: the clips of Hank on TikTok and it's like this round,
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  Speaker 1: I really see why Hank is the right one.
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  Speaker 2: I have to tell you something to do.
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  Speaker 1: You do it too.
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  Speaker 2: I cheated with Hank, and I know what happens.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I know. Have you not watched
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  Speaker 1: this before? No, I have not seen you and Danielle
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  Speaker 1: are on your first round? No, I like went to
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  Speaker 1: the Hank edits on TikTok because Hank is cool. Ray
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  Speaker 1: Ramondo is never been hotter than he is in this show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that, Like there's something cool about hiving
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  Speaker 2: and something about their chemistry. So I do see it.
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  Speaker 2: I do know, I do recognize and acknowledge.
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  Speaker 1: It was still a painful breakup, and I was desperately
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what restaurant they were at. What
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  Speaker 1: restaurant were they at when they break up?
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  Speaker 2: Was it the Yama Mode? No, that's in La.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, but did you know they're filming in La because
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  Speaker 1: remember they're on the trip to La, so it's something
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  Speaker 1: you know in La. But it was cringey and painful
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  Speaker 1: when she comes stumbling down the hallway and he's waiting
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  Speaker 1: for her at the door. Now, I do question how
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  Speaker 1: would he would know what her room number was? Because
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  Speaker 1: no hotel is giving that out unless she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe she told him I'm in room twenty
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  Speaker 1: seventeen or whatever, but that was I was like, but
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  Speaker 1: it was cringy and oh and then the elevator scene.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was afraid he was going to say
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  Speaker 1: something about kissing her, remember I was. That's what I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Oh my gosh, I'm glad he didn't because
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  Speaker 1: if we both thought that, it's kind of a clever
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  Speaker 1: move on it to not do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where Hank kind of is protective of it too.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, because he loves her.
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  Speaker 1: And then I can't remember how long it is before
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  Speaker 1: now she and Hank like hook up. How about the
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  Speaker 1: famous lady who I can't name playing the mother? She
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  Speaker 1: st recognizable playing, Yes, she's on a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: Breaking Bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was the she was Hank's actually, oh that's
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  Speaker 2: she was Hank. Hank's wife, wasn't she in this?
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  Speaker 1: She's Hank's wife.
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  Speaker 2: No, but in Breaking Bad, remember she.
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  Speaker 1: Was the main guy's wife known the brother in law's wife.
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  Speaker 1: I never watched Always More.
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  Speaker 2: Purple and his name was Hank the d oh the way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's weird. I never watched that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, it's so good.
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  Speaker 1: She's cool and we're not done with her. She's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have she comes around again. Yeah. So yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that was my lead storyline of the two episodes. I
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  Speaker 1: definitely was into their whole thing. There's some sort of
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  Speaker 1: awkward things again with Drew and Sarah and Mark and
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  Speaker 1: that all that just a little bit. It's nice that
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  Speaker 1: Drew's back with Amy, although we don't really see them much.
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  Speaker 1: I think we're just to assume they're fine. So let's
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  Speaker 1: go back to Max doesn't want the dance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's rough for me to watch because he's so like,
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  Speaker 1: no dance, you know, with the room and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, just do what the other kids want. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: But then you get the whole storyline about Christina really
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  Speaker 1: wanting him to go to the dance. You know, she's
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  Speaker 1: she's worried about her health. She dances with Max, although
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  Speaker 1: she did him dirty on the dancing. That's not how
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  Speaker 1: you dance, yeah, because it's like this, you don't put
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  Speaker 1: two arms up.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't try lock you're.
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  Speaker 1: Going well also, but she goes you put your arm
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  Speaker 1: on my shoulder and I put my arm on your shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: You don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like as if you put both arms on
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  Speaker 2: the shoulders and the hits.
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  Speaker 1: And the waist, right, I'm like, yeah, what so, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure she taught him the best dancing, but she
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  Speaker 1: did teach him how to go ask a girl to dance,
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  Speaker 1: and that was I'm cute. Yeah, that whole thing was cute.
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  Speaker 1: And she was smoking pot and when Julia came over
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  Speaker 1: for advice and then that's how we learned, they just
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  Speaker 1: bribe him and that was funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like, here's the candy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was all good, funny, good storylines Joel and Julia. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm concerned and we should be.
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  Speaker 2: So, oh, I don't cheat on that part.
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  Speaker 1: I won't ruin it for you. But okay, look, of
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  Speaker 1: course Jewels should be able to work jo and you
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  Speaker 1: know she comes around also, Oh then you know Amber's
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  Speaker 1: boyfriend breaking the glass. It's like, oh god, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many stressful things about that whole thing. Yeah, I feel
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  Speaker 1: for Julia, but also I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she should have been so like, oh, you're going back.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, Ego, you.
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  Speaker 1: Committed to the parenting, and it's like this guy's been
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  Speaker 1: committed to the parenting the whole time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like, you know, the episode before
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  Speaker 2: she mentioned that like staying at home doesn't fulfill her
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  Speaker 2: as like working.
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  Speaker 1: She needs to get back to work.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it was possibly like and both.
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  Speaker 1: Those kids are in school all day.
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  Speaker 2: They could figure this out that that part was like
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  Speaker 2: creeping into this episode because she wasn't feeling fulfilled and
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  Speaker 2: she's putting her insecurities on.
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  Speaker 1: Joel also was happy that Victor didn't get an A
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  Speaker 1: on the test because no kid's gonna like do that,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not realistic. But I did really like her
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  Speaker 1: going in and the explanation. Now, my one sort of
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  Speaker 1: thing is they've gone from zero to one hundred with Victor,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's sort of the problem, Like he
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  Speaker 1: needs some transition for this kid, Like this kid's mom
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  Speaker 1: went to prison. Yes he's been, he's not young, he's
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  Speaker 1: lived with in this tumultuous situation. You can't just be
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  Speaker 1: like I'm your mom, this is your dad. They haven't
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  Speaker 1: even adopted. I mean, the whole thing is like very confusing.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a little.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. Every time since you've mentioned
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  Speaker 2: that to Danielle, every time I see it, they're like
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  Speaker 2: I love you or call me mom. I'm just like
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  Speaker 2: right so soon totally.
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  Speaker 1: And the kid is obviously like, what kid is going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do that? No kid exactly. So
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  Speaker 1: that's a little funny in the storyline, but maybe intentional.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, so that one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in do it the whole thing I'm into. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god. How about Pamela Adlin.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I recognized her right away. I was like, of cours,
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  Speaker 2: perfect fit for her.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you the best trivia ever about Pamela Adlin. So,
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  Speaker 1: Pamela Adlin is becoming quite a famous actor right She's
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  Speaker 1: had her own show. She's like very well known. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's like not award nominated. So she is the
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  Speaker 1: neighbor to the Luncheonet, which also is weird because the
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  Speaker 1: Luncheonet feels very hate ashbury ish, and her condo looks
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  Speaker 1: like it's five million dollars, so it's like very very
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  Speaker 1: and also you knew that you were buying a condo
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  Speaker 1: right next to this. But I did love the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: scene where they all come in. But let me give
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  Speaker 1: you a little fun fact about Pamela Adlin Grease too.
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  Speaker 1: She is in Grease too. Oh so you know how
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  Speaker 1: the Pink Ladies, there's the little sister of one of
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  Speaker 1: them in Greece two, not Greece one. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: So there's sort of a younger sister in Greece two
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  Speaker 1: of the Pink Ladies, and it is played by Pamela Adlon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you another like fun trivia fact. Her daughter,
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  Speaker 2: right was in mar Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 1: One, Marty Supreme, Marty Supreme, Yes, with the guy that
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  Speaker 1: everyone loves shall no way. Yeah, her real life daughter.
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  Speaker 2: Her real life daughter is in Marty Supreme. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Okay has a different last name.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, because Pamela Adlin's probably the dad's last name
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Odessa, Odessa.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's your last name?
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  Speaker 2: A Zion? Oh yeah, good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff. So I did like when they when all
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  Speaker 1: the neighbors come in and I'm glad we won and
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  Speaker 1: we'd have to deal with this. It went on a
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  Speaker 1: little long, I would say it did.
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  Speaker 2: It did like I was like, we get it.
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  Speaker 1: I think too, but it was like we get it, blab.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like the neighbor situation. They're smoking, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand why they would be parking in her parking place.
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  Speaker 1: That was weird to me too. I'm like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they're not parking in your condo. Like that
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  Speaker 1: was weird. The smoking and the like loud and the peeing. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: but like I'm like, what are we towing cars for?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they were trying to like portray like cause I'm
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  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. I know there's like the new San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: They're redoing all these houses, taking over these like you know,
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  Speaker 2: expence or taking over these Victorian houses and all, and
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  Speaker 2: they're making them like blocks basically, and then you have
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  Speaker 2: like the historic stuff like the luncheon Nette. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to portray that San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, fine, Sure it just dragged. Yeah it was good. Also,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna get into court that fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's so true.
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  Speaker 1: Like literally you'd be in court seven months a year later,
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  Speaker 1: never two days later. So that was a little bit
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  Speaker 1: like really, all right, let's talk about Ryan and Amber
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  Speaker 1: and we're worried, right, Yeah, yes, all.
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  Speaker 2: The pills that he's taking, it's just sad and Ambers
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  Speaker 2: like tells him I love him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not as crazy about her pink streak and her hair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I had hair, so I kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's all fine. I just think I liked it. I
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  Speaker 1: liked it before. Somehow her hair got longer real fast,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know how that happened. She's sweet. I
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  Speaker 1: loved the scene with her and Craig t Nelson that
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  Speaker 1: was like, craigtie Nelson is like brilliant in this show.
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  Speaker 1: He is, He's so good, amazing. The acting is amazing
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  Speaker 1: in this show. I did. I was watching it with
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  Speaker 1: a friend and I remember like pausing it and saying,
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  Speaker 1: the actors are like amazing in this show. I shed
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  Speaker 1: some tears during it, just because it's like watching how
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  Speaker 1: brilliant they all are just makes you emotional.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I think I cry weekly with the show. When I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing the.
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  Speaker 1: It gets worse. That's the one thing I do remember.
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  Speaker 1: The earlier seasons were a little bit lighter, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more fun. It gets darker as we go very
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: deep right now, Yeah, and it just gets darker. So
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  Speaker 1: that was tough, but all I always enjoy it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad we're doing two at a time. I am kind
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  Speaker 1: of one to crank through it because I'm ready for
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  Speaker 1: some something fresh, but I definitely like it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, and Ryan Ryan Matt Lauria is like
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  Speaker 2: every time you go screaming, I just kind of tilt
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  Speaker 2: my head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the casting is brilliant because
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  Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights was cast so well.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you know, yeah, they all do a
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  Speaker 2: good job. And these are real life stories that you know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody in the writer's room has experienced, and so the
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  Speaker 2: actors have done a great job bringing that to life.
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  Speaker 2: And when we're watching, that's why we connect with it.
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  Speaker 1: And I do forget that she's Lauraai, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I like can embrace and lean in that Lauren is
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  Speaker 1: playing someone different. Yeah, and Peter Krausea, I'm not thinking
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  Speaker 1: about nine to one one Dax. You know, like they
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  Speaker 1: really become these characters. Craigina I have to say, it's
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Craigtinilsen to me is the he's like the glue or
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  Speaker 1: the best part or whatever. He really brings out brilliance.
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  Speaker 1: And May Whitman is just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I love her. I need to watch more
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: because she's really good. Wait wasn't she in when she
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: was little?
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  Speaker 1: Independence Day?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: One Fine Day with George Clooney, One Fine Day with
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: George Clooney, Fine Day. I haven't seen that one, but
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: it's it's so good. Yeah, so I like it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give this a nine. They all get a nine.
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  Speaker 1: But like you know, nothing too controversial, nothing too much
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  Speaker 1: to discuss, just kind of like okay, good good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, moving along. We're seeing, you know, them find their way.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: It's good anyway. It's look, it's Is it the most
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  Speaker 1: compelling podcast we've ever done. No, because the show is
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  Speaker 1: just good. But there's not a lot of controversy. There's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of hot takes. It's just as good.
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest hot take is like Hank versus
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  Speaker 1: Mark and I'm this round. I'm all for Hank.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's interesting that this round you are because
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  Speaker 2: you'll see that ye see it differently, so.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, same thing like with a Gilmour Rory's boyfriends. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you change with time. I don't know how we end this.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody don't forget.
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  Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am All In Podcast
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  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.