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- 0:00Three, two, one, zero.
- 0:04Ignition.
- 0:06Lift off.
- 0:09Ending small business failure.
- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
- 0:17Emerson.
- 0:18Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:23you need to succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:26Now here's your host, the small biz chat lady herself, Melinda Emerson.
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- 0:58Hi, everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Small Biz Chat podcast.
- 1:03I'm Melinda Emerson, small biz lady, your host, America's number one small business expert, and
- 1:09our mission is simple, to end small business failure with real talk and real strategies from
- 1:16business leaders who have done the work.
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- 1:37But if you do, we would really appreciate a glowing review.
- 1:41So to help more small business owners find the show.
- 1:45My guest is a wonderful woman by the name of Trey Bodge, and she is gonna be talking to us.
- 1:51She is the co founder of the Thread A Needle Alley Foundation, and she's an acclaimed
- 1:57lifestyle writer and TV commentator on smart shopping, personal finance, and parenting.
- 2:06As the CEO of Trey Barks Media LLC, she has appeared on more than 1,000 media appearances.
- 2:13The Today Show, Good Morning America, NBC Nightly News, and she's written for Women's Day
- 2:19and Newsweek.
- 2:20And she is a frequent panelist and podcast guest talking about all things money and how to
- 2:27be a great entrepreneur.
- 2:28Trae, welcome to the Small Bitch Tech Podcast.
- 2:31I'm so glad to join you today.
- 2:32Thank you.
- 2:33Thank you so much for being here.
- 2:35I'm so excited to talk to you because you're a money lady and I love money honeys.
- 2:41All right, so let's talk about, tell us about you.
- 2:46Like how did you become smart shopping experts over the years?
- 2:52It was a bit of a circuitous route, but I am a serial entrepreneur.
- 2:58I have owned many businesses throughout the years, one of which was a business I owned in
- 3:04the nineties, so I'm dating myself.
- 3:06But it was a cosmetic brand and we specialized in the reproduction of discontinued colors.
- 3:12We used to make bespoke colors for professional makeup artists, for runway and Broadway.
- 3:19And then I kind of hit a wall professionally.
- 3:21I felt like we were staying small.
- 3:23There was a lot more I wanted to do.
- 3:25And so I flailed around for a couple of years interviewing at different beauty companies like
- 3:32Estee Lauder, L'Oreal, and the brands that they own thinking that I was going to be an
- 3:36executive at one of these companies.
- 3:38And people were kind enough to see me, but they didn't see me fitting into that box of like VP
- 3:44of marketing or what have you.
- 3:45And it was very frustrating for me at the time, but they saw something I didn't see, which was
- 3:50that I am an entrepreneur at heart and I need to kind of drive my own bus.
- 3:54And so then I started kind of randomly writing budget friendly budget living content for a
- 4:01couple of websites through friends and colleagues.
- 4:04And then I started writing a lot for RetailMeNot, which was a it's a coupon site
- 4:09that was just starting out at the time in 2012, I believe.
- 4:13And then I became their spokesperson.
- 4:15And so it was such an interesting job and there were so many aspects of it that I loved.
- 4:21And when they had a layoff a few years later, I just thought, I think I can do this myself.
- 4:26And so I just kind of, after I was laid off, I just started writing content for my own website
- 4:32at truetray.com.
- 4:33And then I just started partnering with brands in different ways to bring their money saving
- 4:38messaging to the world and doing TV segments and radio interviews and podcast interviews.
- 4:43So that's kind of how I got here.
- 4:45I love it.
- 4:46I love it.
- 4:46Alright.
- 4:47So prices are crazy right now in America, right?
- 4:51Whether you go into the grocery store, Walmart, Dollar Store, wherever, like, things have
- 4:56become a lot more expensive.
- 4:59So what are your top three strategies that families can use today to stretch their
- 5:05dollars?
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:06So, I mean, you are so right.
- 5:07Prices are on the rise.
- 5:09And I just read a very interesting study by Goldman Sachs that found that Americans are
- 5:15only paying about 22 percent of the tariff related price hikes that we're seeing, and that
- 5:21that number is going to increase to 67% by October, which means that we're encountering
- 5:29high prices now, but that prices on imported items are continue to rise and at a very fast
- 5:36clip in the next couple of months.
- 5:37So there are a couple things that I've been talking about for over a decade that are more
- 5:43important than ever right now is first of all, just always make sure that you're comparing
- 5:48prices.
- 5:48Just because you find something at a retailer and even if it's on sale doesn't mean that you
- 5:53found the lowest price.
- 5:54So you always want to look around first.
- 5:57You always want to time your purchases strategically.
- 6:00So if there's a three day weekend coming, maybe that's a good time to wait to save some money
- 6:05or Black Friday, Cyber Monday, end of season sales, things like that that can save you a lot
- 6:10of money.
- 6:11And then the third or to use shopping tools to save even more like, deal sites, coupon sites,
- 6:18cashback sites, what offers or do your credit card, companies offering you, maybe they have
- 6:23an exclusive discount at a retailer that you plan to shop at.
- 6:26If you use those three tactics regularly, you can save a lot and hopefully offset some of
- 6:34these price hikes that we're gonna be encountering in the next few months.
- 6:37Now you mentioned your shopping tech tools.
- 6:42I need to know what is your shopping tech stack that you think we all should be using?
- 6:49Yeah, so first of all, comparing prices, like I mentioned, you wanna use a tool like Google
- 6:54Shopping or Yahoo Shopping.
- 6:56That's a really good way to say look up a name of an item and get a sense of where it's sold
- 7:01and for how much.
- 7:03There's also coupons on there.
- 7:05You can get price alerts.
- 7:07So those tools are really helpful and that's kind of your base camp for shopping.
- 7:11And then also, you want to make sure that whatever retailers that you're shopping with
- 7:15regularly, make sure to join their their free loyalty program because loyalty is more
- 7:21important to a retailer than almost anything else.
- 7:24They want you to come back again and again, and they're going to make that worth your while by
- 7:28offering you the ability to earn points towards free stuff, exclusive discounts, things like
- 7:34that.
- 7:34So you want to make sure to do that.
- 7:36And then sort of along those lines, you always want to look at the store brands.
- 7:40Store brands have come a long way.
- 7:42You know, when I was a kid, it was kind of like these black and white products next to the name
- 7:47brand on the supermarket shelves.
- 7:48And that was kind of embarrassing to buy that.
- 7:51It meant that you didn't have money.
- 7:53And that stigma is over, in my opinion.
- 7:55You know, store brands are, they look just as nice as the name brand.
- 7:59You do want to make sure with food that you want to compare ingredient by ingredient, make
- 8:03sure you're getting that high quality product.
- 8:06And then lastly, you know, use a coupon site or a cashback app at all times, especially when
- 8:12you're shopping online.
- 8:14It's very easy to do.
- 8:15Most of them have a browser plug in that once it's installed in your computer, it'll
- 8:19automatically alert you to available savings.
- 8:22One that I've just started using that's brand new in The US comes from Singapore.
- 8:26It's called ShopBack.
- 8:28And so this might be one that you've never heard of before.
- 8:30They have very high cash back offers.
- 8:33And so I've been racking up a lot of cash back in the last couple months since I've been
- 8:38testing this tool, but there are so many others.
- 8:40There's retail who I used to work with, Coupon Cabin, Slick Deals, Rakuten.
- 8:46So there are lots of good ones out there, but ShopBack happens to be my new favorite because
- 8:51I've been working with it exclusively the last couple months.
- 8:55All right.
- 8:55So let's talk about these limited time offers and bundled deals that people are all in the
- 9:01rowing out there.
- 9:02How can you decode which one of these are really something you should go to and not
- 9:06really overspending?
- 9:08Yeah, so this is really about being honest about what you need, you know, keeping a list
- 9:13of the things that you need that your family uses regularly.
- 9:16And then if you see, for example, a buy one or buy three, get one free, something like that,
- 9:22is this something that you're going to use before it goes bad?
- 9:24If the answer is yes, then that's a good deal.
- 9:27But sometimes people buy three and get one free and then two end up sitting around, you know,
- 9:33gathering dust and then wasting money.
- 9:35So you want to be really careful about those offers because if you're, for example, if you
- 9:41save 50% on something, you're still spending 50% And are you spending 50% on something
- 9:48that's useful to you?
- 9:49So just be really careful about, you know, those quick BOGO, save 50%, things like that
- 9:56can create a sense of urgency and make you feel that you need to buy it right now.
- 10:02You need to step back, take a breath and think about, is this a logical purchase for me and my
- 10:08family?
- 10:08And that's the way I like to look at that.
- 10:11And I often see this on sometimes on Amazon like I just need one thing of pink Himalayan
- 10:17salt but they don't sell it like that they sell it three to a pack you know it's like I don't
- 10:24need that I need one thing.
- 10:26You know?
- 10:26So I struggle with this because Amazon is a go to for a lot of things, but it's like, can I
- 10:33just get one thing of deodorant?
- 10:34Why do I have to buy five?
- 10:36Yeah.
- 10:36And with let's say, you know, you bring up two good examples, actually.
- 10:40Pink Himalayan salt, from what I understand, has an endless shelf life.
- 10:45Right?
- 10:45And so if this is something that you cook with regularly, you know, it might make sense to buy
- 10:49the three pack, but yogurt, are you going to go through three of those yogurts before you hit
- 10:53that expiration date?
- 10:54Or is one of them going to go bad and then you've wasted money?
- 10:57So I think that's a, those are two really good examples and how shoppers can look at these
- 11:02things and make the right decision.
- 11:04All right, so let's talk about shrinkflation and dynamic pricing because I have been
- 11:09astounded by, you know, how much shrinkflation has become a thing in America now.
- 11:16Mean, and it's like from the pancake mix to the box of granola bars to the whatever.
- 11:21I mean, it is just unbelievable.
- 11:23Can you talk about, you know, how we should check like unit prices, you know, sizes, timing
- 11:29before we buy?
- 11:31Yeah.
- 11:31And, you know, it's a tricky time when it comes to shrinkflation because we're already in it
- 11:35now.
- 11:36So there was a time when, you know, you get your, you look at the old box of Oreos next to
- 11:42the new box of Oreos and you're like, wait, why are there so fewer Oreos in the new one?
- 11:47We're not seeing the difference anymore because we're already in it.
- 11:51So that's really important to note.
- 11:53So when you're looking at Oreos, for example, maybe look at Oreos versus the store brand of
- 11:58Oreos and compare the ingredients, and then maybe try that store brand to see if it's as
- 12:03good as the original, because it's going to be hard to tell if something's sort of gone
- 12:08through a shrinkflation event.
- 12:10Right.
- 12:11But you mentioned unit pricing, that's really important.
- 12:14Unit pricing is something that it's really important to take to take a look at every time
- 12:18you're shopping, especially for food items and look at that unit price.
- 12:23And you'll see quite often that the store brand, the unit price is significantly lower.
- 12:28So store brands all day long for me and look at those unit prices and make your choices
- 12:34accordingly.
- 12:34You know, ultimately, if you buy a larger quantity of something, it's typically has a
- 12:41lower unit price.
- 12:42And so there is that value there.
- 12:43But are you gonna go through all that yogurt before it goes bad is the sort of secondary
- 12:48question.
- 12:50Yeah.
- 12:50I'm tired of throwing spinach down the garbage disposal for sure.
- 12:53All right.
- 12:53So talk to me about this wonderful new organization that you and your family started
- 13:01to help business owners.
- 13:05Yeah, so it's called Threadneedle Alley Foundation and it's called Threadneedle Alley
- 13:09because that was the name of the alley where my mom's retail store was for over twenty years.
- 13:16She's kind of the OG entrepreneur.
- 13:19She was such an inspiration to me.
- 13:21I grew up as a young girl working in her store.
- 13:24I watched how she kind of cobbled together her budgets every month, and I did, I helped her
- 13:31with her buying.
- 13:31It was a store that sold beautiful hand lotions and soaps and And things like so it was, just
- 13:39in heaven as a kid.
- 13:41And so that's where I learned about entrepreneurship and sort of paving your own
- 13:46way.
- 13:46And when she passed away a couple of years ago, you know, my husband brought up a great point,
- 13:50like you should do something good sort of in memory of your mom and how much she taught you.
- 13:57And then I started thinking about my family, and we have this legacy of entrepreneurship in
- 14:02my family.
- 14:03And I have two founders, they're both members of my family.
- 14:08They both knew my mom really well and knew her in her store on Threadneedle Alley.
- 14:13So there's such a great tie in there.
- 14:15This is something we're so passionate about.
- 14:17And so what we wanted to do is commit sort of put our own money, you know, where our mouths
- 14:23are, right?
- 14:24We want to give three $5,000 grants plus a year of mentorship to entrepreneurs in midlife.
- 14:32So we're looking for people who are age 40 and up.
- 14:36And we love this cohort because this is kind of someone who either they've been working many
- 14:42jobs over the years and they have a lot of experience, they want to try something new and
- 14:46start their own business, or perhaps they've been a stay at home parent and taking care of
- 14:51their kids.
- 14:52And now their kids are heading off into the world and they have time now to start this
- 14:56business.
- 14:56And so we were focusing on that cohort right now.
- 15:00And so we're opening up our applications at the November, and you can go to
- 15:05threadneedleally.org, which is where you can find more information about our organization.
- 15:10And then those, that grant application will be open November 1.
- 15:14We'll keep those applications open until the 2025.
- 15:18And then we'll be announcing our three winners in 02/15/2026, which would have been my mom's
- 15:25birthday.
- 15:26And so we are so excited to support entrepreneurs in this age bracket, not only
- 15:33with a monetary grant, but also with mentorship.
- 15:37So we'll be checking in with our winners every month.
- 15:40They will have a chief mentor, and then they'll have access to over 25 mentors who are all
- 15:47entrepreneurs and all 40 years and older, who will help them with any variety of questions
- 15:53that they have, challenges.
- 15:55We have certified financial planners, we have graphic designers, we have content creators, we
- 16:02have a whole host of amazing people who will be able to help.
- 16:05Because I do think that the challenge that many entrepreneurs face is not only financial, but
- 16:12it's also knowledge and how to answer those questions that you have when you've hit this
- 16:17wall to have someone to answer that question for you, think will be really valuable.
- 16:22I love it, I love it.
- 16:23So how can people support you?
- 16:25You told us how to enter.
- 16:26So tell me, I know you guys are accepting donations, right?
- 16:30And maybe even sponsors too, like how can people involved in support you guys?
- 16:36Yeah, so we are a five zero one(three).
- 16:40We, all donations are tax deductible.
- 16:42We are actively fundraising.
- 16:44So the founders and I, and sort of my mom as the fourth partner, we're all giving money
- 16:49every year to cover these three grants and some operating budget every year.
- 16:54However, we want to give more grants.
- 16:56We want to venture beyond entrepreneurs 40 and up at some point.
- 17:01We'd love to help young people too.
- 17:03We'd love to have a podcast where we're sharing actionable advice for entrepreneurs.
- 17:08So there's a lot that we want to do that we need dollars for.
- 17:11So we are accepting tax deductible donations.
- 17:16We're also looking for volunteers if someone is retired, for example, and it is amazing, an
- 17:23amazing admin or someone who loves to research grants or a grant writer.
- 17:28Those are just a few of the people that I need because I'm the most active partner of the
- 17:35three partners and I need help because I'm also running my other money saving business,
- 17:42obviously, and working with brands.
- 17:44And so there are lots of different ways that you can support, but those monetary donations
- 17:49are really crucial.
- 17:51And then also if you're a business and you're looking to maybe have a grant in your own name,
- 17:55and you'd like to partner with us or support us, we are very open to growing beyond what
- 18:01we're first offering those $35,000 grants.
- 18:04So our website is, I think pretty comprehensive and it'll tell you about our story and who our
- 18:10mentors are and our founders and how you can donate.
- 18:13And then of course, how you can apply for grants as well.
- 18:16But if you have an idea for me, I am very open to hearing
- 18:21those thoughts.
- 18:22All right, give us that website one more time, Trey.
- 18:25Sure, it's threadneedleally.org.
- 18:28And then you can also go to threadneedleally.org on Instagram and we're on
- 18:34LinkedIn as well and Facebook.
- 18:36Perfect.
- 18:37Perfect.
- 18:37All right.
- 18:38Last question.
- 18:39What is the best business advice anyone has ever given you?
- 18:44You know, I think it really came from my mom, you know, and it wasn't necessarily something
- 18:48that she said, but something that she did.
- 18:51You know, she paved her own way.
- 18:53She created her own business.
- 18:55And I was so inspired by that.
- 18:59I grew up just thinking that that's what you did.
- 19:01And so it's so ingrained in me that it's absolutely possible to pave your own way to
- 19:08create your own path.
- 19:11And then along those lines, you know, just really digging in and being consistent, you
- 19:15know, and when you hit a wall, asking for help.
- 19:18And that's kind of why at Threadneedle Alley, we're offering mentorship as well, because I
- 19:23just think a lot of times there are so many things you don't know as an entrepreneur and
- 19:27who do you ask, right?
- 19:28So that's why that mentorship piece is really But my mom was the person who, she inspired me
- 19:35so much to create these different businesses for myself.
- 19:38I love it.
- 19:39I love it.
- 19:39Well, thank you so much for being here and for sharing your wonderful mother's story.
- 19:44And we want to make sure that we send people over to you.
- 19:47So we're going to put it out on the blog.
- 19:48We're going to put it in the show notes.
- 19:50They're going to know about your wonderful organization.
- 19:59Thanks for listening to the Small Biz Chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
- 20:04Subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts, and join us next Wednesday for
- 20:09more fantastic information and interviews.
- 20:12You can find more sources and small business success strategies by visiting Melinda's
- 20:16website, succeedasyourownboss.com.
- 20:20Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you next week.