Latest / Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast / Episode 102: The Audiobook Wizard: Bridging the Gap for Blind and Visually Impaired Children
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- 2:57Richard Riemann, the Audiobook Wizard, Enhanced audiobooks at audiobookwizard Shop.
- 3:06Thank you, Richard, for appearing on the Children's Book Authors podcast, Adventures in the Heart.
- 3:13Richard has written two children's books in the Tales of Princesdom.
- 3:18And if you refer to episode 94, you'll learn so much more about Richard and his children's books on that episode.
- 3:27Richard, I look forward to our conversation.
- 3:29This is very unique for me and I've always indicated to our guests that if I can bring on professionals that are doing, I don't want to say a supportive role, but doing things that help support children's book authorship
- 3:45and how to grow your children's book business, that's one of the goals of our podcast show.
- 3:51So I really appreciate you coming on.
- 3:53Before we get into the details of your audiobook business, can you tell us why you chose children's books as the base of your business?
- 4:05Yes, Rick, I was a volunteer for Learning Ally Reading Books for the Blind.
- 4:12And I also was a guide for blind skiers, Actually, in fact, I was a racing guide.
- 4:19I was the one who would be right behind them, going left, going through the gates were blind skiers, which of course was thrilling for them.
- 4:29Incredible.
- 4:30Doing stuff that sighted people can't do is great.
- 4:35But then I became part of the blind community that way.
- 4:39I was also diagnosed with glaucoma myself, so I was told that I was going to be losing my eyesight within five to 10 years.
- 4:50All of those things had me say, okay, what can I do for the blind community?
- 4:58And the skiers would tell me there's a big gap in the audiobook world where chapter books are all audiobooks, and it's great to have those.
- 5:10But if you're blind and young, illustrated books don't make a lot of sense.
- 5:15Just read out loud.
- 5:16Sometimes it's like reading a poem without the pictures described.
- 5:21It's a nice story, but you're missing at least half the story because you can't see the illustrations.
- 5:29And I said, okay, there's this thing called audio description that's out there that's being used in movies and TV shows to fill in the gaps for the blind.
- 5:43And I said, what about if we do that with children's illustrated books?
- 5:48What if we describe all the pictures?
- 5:50That's how I got into it.
- 5:51Terrific.
- 5:52Your whole story is very close to my heart because my mother had diabetes through most of her life, and later in life it caused her to become about 90% blind.
- 6:03She could see shapes, but she couldn't really see much More than that.
- 6:07And she was a ferocious reader.
- 6:10She read thousands of books.
- 6:12And towards her, her latter years, she relied on audiobooks.
- 6:17So I have to tell you, I have firsthand experience at how much joy those audiobooks brought to my mother.
- 6:25To delve into children's book author.
- 6:28Audiobooks is phenomenal.
- 6:31And I think it really opens up people's eyes, if I can say that.
- 6:36Yeah.
- 6:37And to understand.
- 6:39Wow.
- 6:40Yes.
- 6:40When you've got into this whole audiobook and it's really entertainment.
- 6:47Because as a children's book reader, the beautiful thing about children's books is they have illustrations.
- 6:54And so as a child, you interpret the illustration in your own way.
- 7:01That allows your own creative imagination to take you whatever direction you want to go.
- 7:07In a child who cannot see, you're filling in some of that creative energy to allow them to flourish with their thoughts.
- 7:17So talk to us about what you've seen when you.
- 7:22In those circumstances, when you've read to children that are blind and how this dialogue starts with them, it makes it.
- 7:31A different experience when the pictures are described.
- 7:36I'm going to take the opportunity just to read a little bit of the description of the COVID of my book, the Day the Clouds Went Away.
- 7:44Terrific.
- 7:45And I just before you do that, Richard, both your books are in audiobook descriptive format.
- 7:52Yes.
- 7:53Okay, thank you.
- 7:54I just want to make sure the audience knows that.
- 7:56And I've created over 200 illustrated books in the audiobook.
- 8:02Audiobooks with Audio Description format.
- 8:04So what we do is.
- 8:05Okay, here is the COVID of my book, the Day the Clouds Went Away.
- 8:11On the COVID in a bright blue sky, puffy white clouds float above a distant mountain range and a green valley with a meandering stream that flows by a castle.
- 8:23On a cliff.
- 8:23Above the castle, a princess holds a white owl and watches a wizard with a long white beard as he holds up a magic wand.
- 8:32The princess has long brown hair and her gown is purple and white.
- 8:37The wizard's cloak and hat are cobalt blue with white moons and stars adorning them.
- 8:43The wand shines, forming a cat shaped cloud and a dog shaped cloud which leap through the sky in purple letters.
- 8:52The title appears the Day the Clouds Went Away.
- 8:56Thank you, Richard.
- 8:57And while Richard was reading that, I had Richard's book cover in front of me to follow along.
- 9:04Unbelievable.
- 9:05Great job.
- 9:06I really appreciate you doing that so that people have a feel for what you do and what it's all about.
- 9:15Yes.
- 9:15It really is, as we say, painting the word pictures.
- 9:20It's another dimension to your book.
- 9:22I've had Authors say with those descriptions, I saw things in my book that I didn't even notice.
- 9:29And it's my book that it's.
- 9:33Audio description is an art.
- 9:35It's also writing.
- 9:36And there are professional audio description writers out there.
- 9:40But I also have shortcuts for authors if they want to write the descriptions themselves of the.
- 9:48The books to create an audiobook.
- 9:50That's true.
- 9:51It's interesting because I was talking to a gentleman, Peter Cotton from South Carolina, and he wrote a book series, Fred the Snake.
- 10:01And what is interesting about that is he started his book authorship at the age of 77.
- 10:08He's now 85.
- 10:09But he told me he published his 10th book.
- 10:12And when he went back to his first book and read it again, he said he didn't realize the power of illustrations because when he went back, he noticed things that he had never noticed before.
- 10:26So he had his book on the market for 10 years and was going back and finding things.
- 10:31So it's neat that an audiobook person like yourself interprets the illustrations and probably goes more into depth than even yourself as a reader.
- 10:45Yes.
- 10:46I think that parents reading the book out loud to their kids might describe a little bit, but they don't go into the depth that we're talking about with the real audio description of the pictures.
- 10:59It's creating a new art form that is terrific.
- 11:03I noticed on episode 94 when you and I talked about your books, when you started to write your books and started to look for an illustrator and then you found an illustrator, how did you communicate with the illustrator
- 11:17that not only were the illustrations going to be important to support the words that you wrote, but they were also going to be important in the descriptive audiobooks that you were also going to produce.
- 11:32So tell us about that, because I've never had anybody do that before.
- 11:36Yeah.
- 11:37We visited the enhanced audiobooks library that I have created where you can see and hear hundreds of illustrated children's books turned into audiobooks with description, turned into videos with captions as well as description.
- 11:57And some of the videos have a sign American Sign Language interpreter interpreting the book as we go.
- 12:05And that's@enhancedaudiobooks.org and so she was able to listen to and see what I was doing as far as having the pictures described.
- 12:18And she knew before she started the illustrations that's what I was going to do.
- 12:25Wow.
- 12:26I want to get deeper into this whole.
- 12:29Your business itself.
- 12:31I'd like to talk to you about your website.
- 12:34Can you tell everybody the name of your website?
- 12:37AudioBookWizard Shop.
- 12:40It's the AudioBook Wizard Shop at AudioBookWizard Shop.
- 13:15And if you went to AudioWizard.com, you have that domain also, correct?
- 13:20Yeah.
- 13:20It will forward to you to the shop.
- 13:23Okay, terrific.
- 13:24I'll double check it.
- 13:25But I could tell you.
- 13:27I could tell you it does because I did that.
- 13:30Okay, good.
- 13:31So, yes.
- 13:32And in the shop, basically, I've created tools not just for illustrated book authors, but for all book authors about book video trailers, the basically about my library, about courses that I am creating.
- 13:51I'm in the process of.
- 13:52I went to your website.
- 13:53I noticed you had seven different services listed, which is phenomenal.
- 13:59It's all about book marketing too.
- 14:01How to differentiate yourself from market, how to create those little Facebook videos and things that you can use to.
- 14:10To promote the sales of your book.
- 14:13As a children's book author, if I reached out to you about your services, what kind of questions would you ask me to find out how you might help me as a children's book author?
- 14:26Let's just use for fun.
- 14:28I've got two children's books.
- 14:30One's our original book called the Adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear.
- 14:34And then the second book in our series is called Hijinks from the Big Head Folk Music Festival.
- 14:41So pick whatever one you would like and then pretend I'm a potential customer and take me through that process.
- 14:48Okay.
- 14:49First, I would want you to send me a PDF of the book so I can see it for myself.
- 14:55And then I will ask you, okay, let's make sure.
- 14:59Do you want this from the point of view of a male voice or a female voice?
- 15:04Because that determines which voice is going to read the text of the book and which voice is going to read the audio description.
- 15:14It's always nice to have a contrast, especially for blind children, where it tells them that, okay, you're leaving the text and you're going into description.
- 15:24So that's one of the first things that I would ask you about.
- 15:29I would ask you if you want music, if you want any sound effects.
- 15:36You have to be careful with sound effects with books for the blind because children can be startled if there's a sudden big noise that comes out of an audiobook.
- 15:47Especially blind children.
- 15:49If a lion roars out of nowhere, it can really startle them.
- 15:53So you have to be a little careful about sound effects.
- 15:56And they're normally not in a lot of audiobooks unless they're full cast productions.
- 16:01But what we're doing is we're taking your book and separating out the text and Then figuring out where the descriptions of the pictures will go to make the story flow.
- 16:16But really that's all you need to do is to give me that kind of direction.
- 16:22And I can decide which narrator voices would fit your book, whether it's my voice or my daughter's voice, who's also an audiobook narrator or somebody else.
- 16:34I actually hire a lot of blind and low vision narrators.
- 16:40Wow.
- 16:40To do my book.
- 16:42I think that's important for the blind community too, to make sure they have opportunities.
- 16:48And I provide them with braille scripts if they read braille.
- 16:51You've created these enhanced audiobooks?
- 16:55Yes.
- 16:56And I'm just curious about commercial viability in terms of, I believe on kdp, like Kindle Direct Press, you can add audiobooks as part of your offering.
- 17:12Yes.
- 17:12Is there a difference between an audiobook and an enhanced audiobook?
- 17:20Yes.
- 17:21And the difference is that the pictures are audio described.
- 17:27And I put a little ad audio description banner on the COVID of the logo to tell people that this is special audiobook, that it has description.
- 17:40And you have to make sure when you're marketing your book that people know that the pictures are described because it makes it a different experience.
- 17:51And when they hear the sample, they will know what it sounds like when the pictures are described.
- 18:00We know that you've written two children's books.
- 18:04Tell us the name of your children's books.
- 18:06It's the Day the Clouds Went Away and the Day the Bees Went Away.
- 18:12Terrific.
- 18:13Thank you.
- 18:14And those are both enhanced audiobooks, correct?
- 18:18Yes.
- 18:19I have made sure that they're available as enhanced audiobooks.
- 18:23And in the Day the Clouds Went Away, there's also a video in the enhanced audiobooks library that includes the sign language with it.
- 18:33And are they also just audiobooks when.
- 18:37You say just audiobooks?
- 18:39No, I offer video versions and I offer two kinds of video versions of illustrated books.
- 18:47Number one, I can take your script and make it into a song and basically have the pictures in the video and your words as the lyrics in the song.
- 19:02Yes, I'm using AI to do that, but I call it ethical AI.
- 19:07I'm not stealing from anybody.
- 19:09I'm using your book, your words, and basically enhancing it with a tool.
- 19:17So that's one way that I do it.
- 19:20And the other way is to do a video version with the pictures described.
- 19:26And I also put together, offer the video versions and those can be used.
- 19:32Most authors will use excerpts from those videos to market their book.
- 19:38And the best way to market an audiobook.
- 19:41Let me make sure I mention this, is mention you have an audiobook every time you talk about your book.
- 19:47Because audiobooks are growing at such a rapid rate, over half the people in America are now listening to audiobooks.
- 19:56And you are doing something when you add descriptions.
- 20:01It's not just for blind and low vision children.
- 20:05It's for all children.
- 20:06They can listen to the car, to your book, and enjoy the illustrations.
- 20:11And that's what I wanted to delve into because I've been separating audiobook from enhanced audio book.
- 20:18But at the end of the day, if I had an enhanced audiobook, would that be commercially viable for being my audiobook?
- 20:32So in other words, if I offered to people, I said, I have an audiobook, but it's actually an enhanced audiobook.
- 20:39Yes.
- 20:40What's the commercial viability of that versus just a plain audiobook?
- 20:45I've had to differentiate my audiobook.
- 20:49Audible has told me that once I have enough of these audiobooks with audio description, enhanced audiobooks, they will add a search category for them.
- 21:01So I'm working on that currently.
- 21:03Okay.
- 21:04But even more than that, I have a partner, Pro Audio Voices, and it's for narrators of all kinds of audiobooks.
- 21:15And they have a publishing arm, Amplify Audiobooks, which publishes the audiobooks on all the platforms, on Audible, on Findaway Voices, which is now in audio, the audiobooks.com Barnes Noble audiobooks, all of these.
- 21:36So you have a place.
- 21:38I create a page where your audiobook is and people can buy your audiobook directly from the page and get 65% royalties as opposed to what you get normally from the audibles of the world.
- 21:56And you can send people there to buy your audiobook.
- 22:01It will also be on all the other platforms.
- 22:04And so I have a distribution agreement for these audiobooks with Audio Description.
- 22:10And we're just starting this is growing enhanced audiobooks as a concept.
- 22:16I have appeared at the Audio Publishers association conference.
- 22:21In fact, I got a recognition award from them in New York for my contributions to the blind community.
- 22:30Also, the American Council of the Blind has given me an award for doing these books.
- 22:37So they are invested in letting them know when these books are out and adding them to sites that are out there for the blind, letting them know that these books are available.
- 22:50And here's the link to buy them.
- 22:52So it's going out there to not just the normal reading community, but also the blind community.
- 23:00I can see how enhanced audiobooks can be your audiobook because they're so rich in detail and you're triggering the child's imagination through the words that they're listening to.
- 23:17Is that your experience?
- 23:19Yes.
- 23:20There are more than 2 million blind and low vision children in the U.S.
- 23:24and not all of them are learning braille anymore.
- 23:27In fact, Braille is almost a dying art.
- 23:30Fewer braille schools, fewer braille teachers.
- 23:34And because of the availability of so much audio, the children are learning to be dependent upon audio descriptions with their devices and stuff that will read stuff to them than they are actually reading braille.
- 23:51So this is an important change in the blind community, but it's much more than that.
- 23:56It's.
- 23:56We're making the books available to everyone out there in a different way, in a different form.
- 24:02That's terrific.
- 24:04So I want to dig a little deeper because I want children's book authors who may be thinking, oh, this sounds really interesting, I should contact Richard.
- 24:14I wanted to delve a little deeper into how you handle the character development, the story and the moral or the lesson.
- 24:26Because generally children's books, they always have a subtle.
- 24:31They always have a subtle lesson or moral.
- 24:35So how do you weave all that through as you're doing the audiobook?
- 24:40I disagree with you.
- 24:41I think many of the books actually hit you over the head with a hammer as far as what their message is not so subtle.
- 24:49Okay.
- 24:50Subtle is good, but it's not at all highly recommend being subtle.
- 24:56Yeah.
- 24:56For the day the bees went away.
- 24:58And I don't say don't kill the bees.
- 25:00Don't kill the bees.
- 25:01It's a story about how important bees are.
- 25:05Right.
- 25:06I come to you with my book now and I've got, I've got several characters, I've got a story and I've got a subtle or maybe not so subtle message or moral.
- 25:18Talk to me like you were talking to a potential client.
- 25:22What would you say to me?
- 25:23That message is going to come through loud and clear.
- 25:27Even louder and clearer than just even reading your book out loud because you're not missing that half the story that's in the illustrations.
- 25:40And if you've written a good book, and I'm sure it's a great book, those pictures are going to totally support the story and it'll be interweaved the descriptions into the story itself.
- 25:53Okay.
- 25:53We're not going to change anything.
- 25:56That's the point of the audio description is not to interpret your words, but.
- 26:01To enhance them, basically.
- 26:03To enhance them, yes.
- 26:06Okay, terrific, terrific.
- 26:08And talk to us because you're the first one I've actually had on that has had this focused on an enhanced audiobook for children.
- 26:18And you have two books that are now on the marketplace that are enhanced audiobooks, talk to us not as the producer or the creator of the enhanced audiobooks, but talk to us as a children's book authority.
- 26:37And knowing that you have a couple more offerings in your stable to sell to people and it's the revenue generators,.
- 26:47I've created basically a marketing site for authors to go beyond what they've already written and put it in different formats, audio, with audio descriptions of the pictures, video that they can use to market their books and promote their
- 27:06books, and also put a video up on YouTube to.
- 27:11To help promote their books, always with the link to buy their book.
- 27:16So it's unique.
- 27:17And I create these trailers, music trailers for the books, just different things so you can stand out in the book community.
- 27:28And how is it working for you on your social media?
- 27:32I am known far and wide as the Audiobook wizard, because that's the identity I've created.
- 27:40Nobody remembers my name.
- 27:42Richard Riemann.
- 27:44Rhymes with demon, as my mother used to say.
- 27:47Nobody can spell it because it's R I, E, M a N.
- 27:51So they.
- 27:52They say Riemann.
- 27:53So nobody's going to find me by my name or search for my books under my name.
- 28:00But I'm the Audiobook Wizard.
- 28:03And when I go to conferences and I speak at schools and do all the things that I do to support my business, that's how I'm known, the Audiobook Wizard.
- 28:15And I talked like that when I presented the children and in full wizard outfit, the hat, the long white beard, everything.
- 28:25And that is also a plus for an author if they can create a unique identity, usually for their characters, not for themselves.
- 28:36Your book has characters that stand out, and basically you want those characters to come out of the book and help promote it.
- 28:47And that's one of the things that I help do.
- 28:49It's interesting you should say that, because I had a guest on who wrote a book on podcasting for kids and Amanda Cupido, episode 62.
- 28:58It's all about encouraging children to be podcasters.
- 29:04And what was interesting about it is Amanda, she had said to me, rick, you know what I've done?
- 29:13Because I said to her, is that your character on the front cover of your book?
- 29:20And she said, actually, I'm not only the adult, there was also a child on the book.
- 29:27And she says, that's my younger self.
- 29:30And I thought, oh, that's cool.
- 29:32But what she said to me is she said, you notice what I'm wearing as an adult?
- 29:37And I said, okay.
- 29:39She said, when I go do book readings, I make sure that I wear exactly that outfit to go with my Persona from that children's book.
- 29:50And I thought, brilliant.
- 29:52And so she said, what about you?
- 29:54And I said, actually, in our first book and our second book, I said, I'm actually a character.
- 30:00I'm the papa.
- 30:01That's what my grandchildren call me, and my granddaughter's called me that.
- 30:06Since she could speak, I developed a character.
- 30:10I'll just show you, Richard.
- 30:11But the papa has green framed glasses and an orange jacket with green pants and a green tie.
- 30:20And she said to me, rick, you should buy that outfit.
- 30:23And that's who you should be when you go do your children's book reading.
- 30:27And so you've inspired me even further, Richard, because of what you've done is create this Persona and had some fun with it.
- 30:37And you know what?
- 30:37That's the beautiful thing about it.
- 30:39You've written a children's book.
- 30:41Have fun with it.
- 30:43Thank you for sharing your Persona and how you.
- 30:46What you're doing with that.
- 30:48The one important thing is that we haven't been covered yet.
- 30:52What is audio description?
- 30:55What does a book sound like with audio description?
- 30:59And in the previous.
- 31:01Our previous talk, I did the COVID description.
- 31:03But let me just read you the descriptions of a few of my pages.
- 31:08Terrific.
- 31:08And let you know what it sounds like and see if you can visualize in your mind what these pictures look like.
- 31:17On the cliff above the valley in the castle, Princess Claudia raises her arm and Iris, the owl, spreads her wings to take off and fly over the manicured garden bushes shaped and cut into a maze of intersecting paths
- 31:33and a purple flowering tree on the bank of the stream.
- 31:37In the garden, Dumbledore uses his magic wand to sculpt bushes in the shape like an owl.
- 31:43A round fountain stands in the center of a maze, and an arched arbor has a cover of draping yellow leaves.
- 31:51Princess Claudia smiles as she sniffs flowers on a rose bush.
- 31:56And finally, Dumbledore points his wand toward the ominous dark clouds rolling above the castle and its beam of golden light tangles with a bolt of lightning.
- 32:09And those are just the descriptions of the pictures.
- 32:12Terrific.
- 32:14And I'm curious now just to talk a bit more about.
- 32:19When I talk to children's book authors about how to build out their business, they always have to think about, once you've produced a book, you have this product and you have to market it.
- 32:30And you and I Talked on episode 94, we talked about, once you produce a children's book, you've got a business, and you need to know how to support that business.
- 32:41Sometimes it's broadening your reach and building out.
- 32:45So when you started your book authorship, and of course, being someone who comes from an audiobook background, talk to us about you started your audiobook business and then you became a children's book author and are using your children's
- 33:06books as more of a enhancement rather than the core of your business.
- 33:11Am I summarizing that correct?
- 33:13That's correct.
- 33:14The books are important to my business, especially since I work exclusively almost with illustrated book authors.
- 33:24I wanted to let them know that I am one, that I feel their pain of trying to market, of trying to produce these books.
- 33:33I have the experience with them of how to raise money to do it, how to find a good illustrator, how to find a good editor, all the entire process.
- 33:47And where should you market the book?
- 33:49Where what are the most important things you can do for the book itself?
- 33:54Not just the audiobook, but the audiobook becomes a way, once again, to differentiate yourself.
- 34:01On your Audible book page, on your Amazon book page, they will have an excerpt from your audiobook.
- 34:10So you're selling to people who want to hear your book as well as those who want to buy your book.
- 34:16And many of them will do both.
- 34:18They'll buy the ebook and the audiobook, or buy your paperback, hardcover, especially when they hear an excerpt from it as a sample, when you create the audio side so it all blends together.
- 34:33Fantastic.
- 34:34Because you know what, Richard is interesting?
- 34:36When we launched our first book, we actually did up a free bookmark.
- 34:40And in the middle of it is a QR code.
- 34:43And the QR code, if you scan it, takes you to my middle granddaughter, who at the time had the perfect voice to be the narrator.
- 34:53And she's narrated several books, and we captured her young voice.
- 34:59And the nice thing about it is not only getting the audiobook for free, you also got the story behind the story.
- 35:07And it's my oldest granddaughter who I interviewed, like, on a podcasting format to tell the story behind the story on how the adventures of Caboose the Rocky Mountain Bear came to life.
- 35:20Audio can be so impactful, but what you've done is you've just taken it to the next level, which is incredible.
- 35:27And you have taken the first step in creating the audiobook.
- 35:32Just the.
- 35:32With the words that are there.
- 35:35But what I would do is I would take your existing audio that's already been recorded and add the audio description to that to make it an enhanced audiobook.
- 35:47Wow.
- 35:48So you would be able to retain the recordings already that you've done the narration part, and I probably myself would describe all the pictures and that's how it would become an enhanced audiobook.
- 36:04Isn't that terrific?
- 36:06Well, Richard, now you got the juices flowing.
- 36:09Because, you know what, with my five grandchildren, of course, four of them have actually narrated, including my wife has narrated one of the books.
- 36:19And I thought, because what happens is, as the cost to produce a printed book is, because if you're not the illustrator can be quite expensive.
- 36:30And we've written actually 38 stories in the Adventures of Caboose, the Rocky Mountain Bear.
- 36:37We've published two print versions and we probably narrated about half of the stories.
- 36:44So I've captured their young voices to do that.
- 36:46So thank you for mentioning that.
- 36:48That's quite interesting.
- 36:50Yeah, it's.
- 36:51And can every author narrate their own book?
- 36:56Probably not.
- 36:57And the reason is it's not that you have a terrible voice, it's that it's not reading your book out loud.
- 37:05It is actually narrating your book, telling a story.
- 37:11You have to have that storytelling approach.
- 37:15You're not just reading the words out loud.
- 37:17And that's critically important, especially in children's books that you're telling a story.
- 37:26And young voices, kids, that's what they do.
- 37:30They get excited, they tell the story.
- 37:32Yes, yes.
- 37:33And in their voices.
- 37:35It sounds so cute when that happens.
- 37:38No doubt about it.
- 37:40That's great.
- 37:41I want to talk to you about success because in episode 94, we talked about your success as a children's book author and how you envision success.
- 37:54Talk to us about how you envision because you actually have a unique niche.
- 38:01You've taken children's books and you've actually created enhanced audiobooks from those illustrated children's books.
- 38:09Talk to us about how you had envisioned success because you mentioned now you're up to about 200 illustrated books that you have enhanced audio books.
- 38:19Wow.
- 38:19So take us from when you first started and what you thought it looked like and what it looks like now.
- 38:26I decided to create a nonprofit, my nonprofit Imagination Storybooks.
- 38:32And I made it a point to hire blind and low vision narrators.
- 38:38Our main editor was blind since birth, Audio editor.
- 38:44And to have this be a non profit creating these books for specifically for the blind and deaf communities because we did the videos with sign language.
- 39:32And this was my goal to make as many books as possible accessible to the blind and deaf community.
- 39:42And then I realized that beyond that, all books which are enhanced with audio description can become audiobooks for all children to hear in the car, if they're on their devices, basically to Hear the rich descriptions of the pictures.
- 40:01And so I went beyond the nonprofit and created the enhanced audiobooks business so that authors can make money from these audiobooks, up to 65% of the royalties given to them on a monthly basis.
- 40:18Through my distribution partner, Amplify Audiobooks, I've created a whole business to help encourage illustrated book authors to make their books accessible and also to be able to make money with the accessible versions.
- 40:38And that's.
- 40:39That goes beyond just the nonprofit.
- 40:42I love it.
- 40:43I love it.
- 40:44What advice you would give to someone who is just published their first children's book and who wants to use your service or services?
- 40:55What would you say to someone you know, and they're on a.
- 40:59Remember, they're probably a starving artist.
- 41:03Yeah.
- 41:03So what would you say to them if they said, you know what, Richard, it's tough enough for me making printing book sales.
- 41:13Now I'm coming to you for an enhanced audiobook.
- 41:16Where should I start?
- 41:17You can start with the video promos for your book that are under $100 to produce.
- 41:25That is something that I think everybody should have a good book trailer.
- 41:30We're not even talking about the described part.
- 41:33We're talking about bringing your life, your book to life in video, but with the audio being read part of it.
- 41:40Your book being read in audio and enhancing a book is hundreds of dollars, not thousands.
- 41:48And you get that hundreds of dollars back by selling your audiobook and getting 65% royalties on the sales.
- 41:58So that encourages it.
- 42:01It's not just you've spent the money, you've created it.
- 42:04Goodbye.
- 42:05It is something that will be with your book.
- 42:09As I mentioned, the audio excerpt will be on your Amazon page audiobook.
- 42:15And promote your book to all of those people who love audiobooks.
- 42:21And it' certainly a big growing population.
- 42:24Terrific.
- 42:25And also put your book in the enhanced audiobooks library once it's created.
- 42:30That's free.
- 42:32Right.
- 42:32And that library is available to kids and teachers and parents.
- 42:38And it's something that I'm very proud of as a place where all of these audiobooks with description, the enhanced audiobooks, are all in one place where people can find them.
- 42:50My Tools start at $97, so it's not a big investment.
- 42:54And I would tell people what I'm doing is so different than what's out there that Visit my shop, AudioBookWizard Shop, and see all the examples and see if it fits your vision for your.
- 43:11Book and what keeps you going as the audiobook wizard.
- 43:17Yeah, as I mentioned, Rick, I'm in my 70s now and I've had many adventures in my life.
- 43:23Full career as a radio news anchor and reporter, Washington bureau chief for the RKO Radio Network, traveling with President Reagan around the world in the press plane.
- 43:36I've had quite the adventures before I went into audiobooks and narrating audiobooks.
- 43:43And this is the next stage of my life is making these audiobooks, illustrated enhanced audiobooks available for a generation of children that is now tied to electronics.
- 44:00Try to get the books in their hands.
- 44:02Absolutely.
- 44:04But if their iPad is the way they listen to books, let's make sure that illustrated books are on their iPad too, that have been enhanced.
- 44:14Terrific.
- 44:15And encouragement for listeners.
- 44:20Why should listeners purchase the audiobooks?
- 44:25Number one, you talk about an audiobook and you think it's just being read out loud, narrated.
- 44:31But when we talk about enhanced audiobooks now, you've got the descriptions of the pictures and it becomes a completely different experience for everyone, for every child.
- 44:44And it, as an author, it makes you unique in that you have something like that you can offer out to the world.
- 44:53It's a promotional tool.
- 44:55You can go to your local TV station and say, look, I've made an enhanced audiobook promotion version of my book for blind and low vision children.
- 45:06That differentiates you right off the bat.
- 45:09Absolutely.
- 45:10It gives it a news angle.
- 45:13That's the type of thing that you can do with these enhanced audiobooks.
- 45:17That is terrific.
- 45:19Final thoughts.
- 45:20Richard, is there anything you'd like to share about this whole Audiobook wizard experience with that I haven't asked you?
- 45:31Yeah, let's go back to my identity as the Audiobook Wizard.
- 45:37And it's not just the voice, it's the full outfit.
- 45:41It's me creating that Persona.
- 45:44And if you take your character and create a Persona for that character, it's all about differentiating yourself from the crowd.
- 45:56What makes your book different.
- 45:58And that's one of the things that I've learned by being the Audiobook Wizard.
- 46:05People are expecting different things from me than they would normally experience at a reading of a book.
- 46:12That type of thing.
- 46:13You've created a wonderful book, you've written, had it illustrated, paid all that money to get that done.
- 46:21Go beyond just the book community, get out into the audiobook community, get on YouTube, get on other platforms.
- 46:30That's the most important thing.
- 46:32Richard, thank you so much for being a guest on children's book authors podcast, Adventures in the Heart.
- 46:40Your generosity of time and insights will definitely inspire and benefit authors and readers.
- 46:49And we promise to provide our audience with links to Richard's social media and website and if you've enjoyed the episode, please hit the subscribe button to listen to future episodes.
- 47:01And feel free to share this episode with anyone inspired by or who might enjoy finding out why and how they should create an enhanced audiobook to support their children's book business.
- 47:16Thank you.
- 47:16Richard the Audiobook wizard thank you.