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Little Trailers and a Big Game · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large NuRD Drunk Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Aerial casting and with me as always
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  Speaker 1: is the incredible John as Interestring. Want to expostulate what
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  Speaker 1: majesty is, what duty is? One days, day, night, nine
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  Speaker 1: times time went to nothing but the waste night, day
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  Speaker 1: and time. Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit
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  Speaker 1: and tediousness, limbs and o what flourishes, I will be
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  Speaker 1: breached a loobles and as mad, and I'd call it
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  Speaker 1: but to define true, man, it's what is it but
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  Speaker 1: to be nothing else but mad. I didn't know we
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to be brushing off our Shakespeare monologue. Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta warn a girl. I mean I I messed
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  Speaker 1: that up out of the gate. I messed up the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of that. But that's okay, because you know it's
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  Speaker 1: not like performing the part of Polonius, and you should
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  Speaker 1: always be ready to brush up Shakespeare. Shakespeare, Yeah, stop
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  Speaker 1: quoting him now, yeah yeah, Well it's like I haven't
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  Speaker 1: I could more easily pull out right now the dead
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  Speaker 1: in a Box monologue from Rosencranz and Guildenster. And I've
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  Speaker 1: looked at that one a little bit more closely than
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  Speaker 1: some of the Shakespeare. Oh that's such a good monologue.
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  Speaker 1: I actually I actually did have that memorized once upon
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  Speaker 1: a time as a comedic monologue for auditions, but it's
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  Speaker 1: been a very long time, so I couldn't do it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But I just I do think that that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the more brilliant comedic monologues that comes from the modern era.
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  Speaker 1: There's that, and then there's one about Cereal from a
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  Speaker 1: series of plays called The Norman Conquests, which, despite the
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  Speaker 1: name or not about Norman's coming to England and taking
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  Speaker 1: over the country. It's about a guy named Norman who
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  Speaker 1: has slept his way through essentially a family of people. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've got a few comedic monologues. I've got
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  Speaker 1: the in a Box, which is my all time fave. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I've got close behind is the one that you wrote
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  Speaker 1: me specifically, UM that I do use and I have
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  Speaker 1: up on some of my acting sites as an example
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  Speaker 1: of my monologue ability. And then um, after that, I've
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  Speaker 1: got like one that was actually written for young adults
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  Speaker 1: about being Cinderella's ugly stepsister, which sounds incredibly cheesy and dorky,
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  Speaker 1: but it consistently gets last. Um. But yeah, I I've
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  Speaker 1: learned quite a few Shakespeare monologues. I performed quite a
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  Speaker 1: show a few Shakespeare monologues. But I really do feel
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  Speaker 1: like that is one where like you don't use it
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  Speaker 1: and then you lose it. Yeah. No, there's a simmate storage,
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  Speaker 1: the polonious one I have, Like it's like it's it's
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  Speaker 1: branded into my brain. But uh, there's another one that
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  Speaker 1: I used to do with Hot Spur. But for my
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  Speaker 1: own part, true my Lord, I would be content to
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  Speaker 1: be there with respect for the love I bear your house, um,
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  Speaker 1: which is from King Henry the fourth part one, and
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  Speaker 1: and Hot Spur he's reading a letter and he's getting
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  Speaker 1: angry as he's reading the letter. Uh, and he's having
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  Speaker 1: an argument with the letter, like there's no one else
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  Speaker 1: on stage but him, and he's just getting more and
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  Speaker 1: more angry. And to me, it's hilarious. It's it's it
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  Speaker 1: could be done as either a dramatic or a comedic monologue,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one of my favorites. But at this point,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot quote it all the way through. I'd have
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  Speaker 1: to refresh it. Same with a there's a the we Few,
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  Speaker 1: We Happy Few, we band of brothers from Henry the Five.
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  Speaker 1: I used that one at the Georgia Renaissance Festival over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over again when I was playing Shakespeare
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  Speaker 1: and I had that like I I was having fun.
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  Speaker 1: I was chewing the scenery with that one, and I
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  Speaker 1: could not, for the life of me give you that
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  Speaker 1: that speech all the way through. Today, Well, i've yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and the ones that. So there was a Shakespeare monologue
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  Speaker 1: I did to get into the Renaissance Festival. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Shakespeare, guys, because there's a trailer for a kind
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  Speaker 1: of vaguely Shakespeare movie that looks pretty cool that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about. But now we're on a tangent,
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  Speaker 1: so enjoy um that I did the Shakespeare monologue to
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  Speaker 1: get cast at the Renaissance Festival. About this shoe has
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  Speaker 1: no soul in it, this shoe is my dog. No,
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  Speaker 1: the shoe on my other foot. I don't remember what
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  Speaker 1: it's from though. That's weird. I can't place that off
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  Speaker 1: the top of my head. But then my my deep
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  Speaker 1: scholarship of Shakespeare ended about twenty years ago, so it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of I'm definitely rusty. Yeah, you guys get to
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  Speaker 1: listen to me time kiss. Now I've got to figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. Well, I'll tell you that. My my audition
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  Speaker 1: piece for the Renaissance Festival, which this goes all the
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  Speaker 1: way back to nine, was a comedic monologue delivered by
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  Speaker 1: Peter Cook as part of Beyond the Fringe. The rumor
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  Speaker 1: was that he was pushed out on stage two stalled
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  Speaker 1: because there was some mechanics that were not behaving properly
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  Speaker 1: in the show they were doing, and they needed to
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  Speaker 1: stall for time, and he went out and delivered this
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  Speaker 1: monologue about how he could have been a judge but
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  Speaker 1: he never had the Latin, so instead he became a
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  Speaker 1: coal miner. And it's a a funny, funny little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And that was what I auditioned with, and uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it got me. Got my foot in the door and
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  Speaker 1: then and then the festival slammed the door in my
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  Speaker 1: foot many, many, many times. Yeah. I did launce seen
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  Speaker 1: three Act two from Two Gentlemen of verona Um, which
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  Speaker 1: I still love that monologue. It's great especially if you're
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  Speaker 1: if you're casting panel is okay with you throwing shoes
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  Speaker 1: at them? Um, yeah, those were the days, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean other than that, like I've done the
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  Speaker 1: out out damn spot, I've done the to be or
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  Speaker 1: not to be. I've done friends, Woman's countrymen again all
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  Speaker 1: for Like I was a part of a Shakespeare troup
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  Speaker 1: for quite a few years. But those monologues I did
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  Speaker 1: as a part of the Renaissance festival, and I did
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  Speaker 1: them at nauseum. And yeah I could, I could tell
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  Speaker 1: you bits and pieces, but I'd have to refresh. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan and I anybody who's listen knows we both like Shakespeare. Um,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we'll brush up on it. Um now seriously, now
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  Speaker 1: I've got like this urge to like I've been working
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  Speaker 1: through some comedic monologues just to practice acting, and now
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  Speaker 1: I've got the search just to jump back into Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 1: It is such such a great medium, and it's so
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  Speaker 1: interesting how there are so many different schools on how
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  Speaker 1: to present it and perform it. Yeah, I mean there's
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  Speaker 1: like they are throughout my life. There are Shakespearean speeches
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  Speaker 1: where I would have delivered it entirely differently when I
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  Speaker 1: was younger than to how I would do it now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not to say that the younger version of
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  Speaker 1: me had the wrong take on the speech necessarily. I
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  Speaker 1: mean in some cases definitely where I just was like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get what this was all about. But in
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  Speaker 1: most cases it's like, no, it was more that, um
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  Speaker 1: that I was just in a different place in my
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  Speaker 1: life and the speech meant something different to me at
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  Speaker 1: that point, and today it means something else. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what something is really cool about theater that can continue
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  Speaker 1: to live on well after it came out. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's remarkable, right because it's
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  Speaker 1: not like Shakespeare was the only playwright active in the
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  Speaker 1: Elizabethan era. There were plenty of others, but for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, most of their works haven't survived, or at
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  Speaker 1: least not to the extent that Shakespeare's works does. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you get, you know, like Marlowe and a few others,
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  Speaker 1: but they aren't held to the same height. Which is
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  Speaker 1: funny because, um, I kind of agree with what Douglas
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  Speaker 1: Adams used to say, which is that Shakespeare was brilliant
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  Speaker 1: with his histories and his tragedies, but his comedies kind
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  Speaker 1: of stink. For the most part with a couple of exceptions.
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  Speaker 1: But but to be fair, a reason why I think
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  Speaker 1: the comedy's sort of staying is that we're so far
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  Speaker 1: removed from the pronunciation and vocabulary that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the word play is lost on us because we don't
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  Speaker 1: use those terms anymore, nor do we pronounce them the
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  Speaker 1: same way that they did back in Elizabethan, England. I
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  Speaker 1: get it, you know it. You have to present the
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  Speaker 1: phrases really well for people to get what what what
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  Speaker 1: some of the puns are nowadays. I the comedies are
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  Speaker 1: my favorite, honestly, I'll say the histories are. I've always
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  Speaker 1: struggled to get into the histories, but that's just me
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  Speaker 1: in general. No, I get it, Like I think the
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  Speaker 1: Henry add I think. I think Henry the Fourth Part
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  Speaker 1: one through Henry the Fifth in particular, I think those
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  Speaker 1: are probably the easiest to get into among the histories.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Richard the Second I think is a terribly
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  Speaker 1: underperformed play. I think it's really really good. Richard the
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  Speaker 1: Third is far more famous, but it's also really long
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  Speaker 1: and really dense. Uh. And also you have to be
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  Speaker 1: willing to go along for the ride with a a
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  Speaker 1: villain as your your main character through the entirety of
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  Speaker 1: the play, and it gets a little wearing at the time. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what's your favorite what's your favorite Shakespearean play? Oh? Gosh, Um,
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  Speaker 1: it changes it. Like like you said, like when you're
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  Speaker 1: when you're delivering Shakespeare, depending on where you are in
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  Speaker 1: your life, you're and that's sorry, I'm gonna go on
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  Speaker 1: a little b Any train. The great thing about acting,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that makes each act or unique individuals, the
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  Speaker 1: thing that makes it where there aren't wrong you just
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  Speaker 1: have to make a choice and be honest about it,
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  Speaker 1: is because everybody looks at situations written in a story
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  Speaker 1: in a different way based on their personal experiences. And
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  Speaker 1: that means you could have seventy different ways to um
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  Speaker 1: perform lines or a scene or a monologue that are
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  Speaker 1: all truthful and all legitimate and just all based in
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  Speaker 1: different people's experiences. It's what makes acting great. It's one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I like about Shakespeare is even though
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  Speaker 1: there are specific things and ideas he was getting across,
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  Speaker 1: there are so many ways you could take them even nowadays. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but so it really kind of depends on where I
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  Speaker 1: am in life. For a long time, I would have
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  Speaker 1: said Taming of the Shrewd, just because I really liked
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people find it problematic, but
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  Speaker 1: I to me, it was always like this incredibly strong
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  Speaker 1: woman and this incredibly strong man like truth thing. It
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  Speaker 1: was never it was never Catherine giving up her freedoms
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  Speaker 1: or her opinions or her strength. It was them being like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're equal opponents. We're gonna we're gonna call it
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  Speaker 1: truth and learn how to live together. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that's really important in life, is learning how to
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  Speaker 1: live with someone else without giving up who you are.
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  Speaker 1: That's definitely a tough one because obviously there is this
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  Speaker 1: this one interpretation of her subjugating herself to Petrivia. But
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  Speaker 1: I've always felt I've always heard it as like very
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  Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. Well it, I mean, for one thing,
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  Speaker 1: we've we're seeing it through a modern lens and a
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  Speaker 1: modern interpretation, right, But then there's another interpretation I've seen
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  Speaker 1: where it's that she is starting to embrace the concept
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  Speaker 1: of play that Petruchio when he's when he's saying that
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  Speaker 1: the day is night and the night is day, and
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  Speaker 1: the sun is the moon and the moon is the sun,
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  Speaker 1: and that sort of thing that it's not that necessarily.
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  Speaker 1: One interpretation is it's not necessarily that he's saying what
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  Speaker 1: I say goes and you have to follow what I say.
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  Speaker 1: But rather let us occasionally pretend that things are what
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  Speaker 1: they are not, and that this is a playful thing,
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  Speaker 1: and that she in turn learns that by playing she
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  Speaker 1: can find joy and encourage joy and others as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to being truish. But that's just one interpretation. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make it any more or less valid than others. And certainly,
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  Speaker 1: in the presentation of the material, you can either have
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  Speaker 1: a story where it is about two equals finding a
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  Speaker 1: way to coexist with one another and then flourish, or
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  Speaker 1: you can present it in a way as a a
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  Speaker 1: willful and independent woman being beaten down to the point
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  Speaker 1: where she's subjugated to a man. Yeah, yeah, and and
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  Speaker 1: and certainly you know, I haven't done the research to
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  Speaker 1: know how it was originally intended. Um, but like so,
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  Speaker 1: that used to be my favorite, Um, the ones that
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  Speaker 1: always always delight me, or Midsummer Night Dream, Much Ado
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  Speaker 1: about Nothing and Twelfth Night. Um, maybe I'm a basic
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  Speaker 1: Shakespeare b but well if so, then I am too,
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  Speaker 1: because much Ado about Nothing is my favorite of all
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  Speaker 1: the plays. I love it. I love it um. Such
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  Speaker 1: such fun characters, such fun play even though they're comedic. UM.
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  Speaker 1: And recently for a class, for an Udah hogging class,
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  Speaker 1: I did a deep dive into Lady Macbeth and well,
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  Speaker 1: my my interpretation of her was not with some of
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  Speaker 1: the other classmates necessarily thought of Lady Macbeth. I had
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  Speaker 1: so much fun with it just of this. I think
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about it maybe on the show, definitely lean
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  Speaker 1: private about. You know, here's this very strong woman who
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  Speaker 1: has to be cool and calm and collected and calculating
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  Speaker 1: all the time. So who is she behind closed doors?
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  Speaker 1: You know? And yeah, we talked about between the two
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  Speaker 1: of us, and Ariel was explaining to me her interpretation,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought it was a brilliant and valid interpretation.
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  Speaker 1: Essentially that when she's not performing for anyone, when she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be the in control queen who does
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  Speaker 1: not betray her inner thoughts and feelings because of her position,
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  Speaker 1: because of her role, that she cannot do that because
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  Speaker 1: if it does, if she does, then she shows weakness
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  Speaker 1: and that she has shows vulnerability. That behind closed doors,
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  Speaker 1: she lets that veil drop. I thought that was a
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  Speaker 1: brilliant approach, Thank you, And I mean you might. You
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  Speaker 1: might argue that by letting that veil drop it allows
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  Speaker 1: her some release, so she may not go insane in
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  Speaker 1: her sleep walking later. But I don't necessarily think that's
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  Speaker 1: too true. I think I think you can be incredibly stressed.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can be emotional. I think you can
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  Speaker 1: be a strong woman. You can have emotions. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can segment those off. How many people man or
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  Speaker 1: woman or other have had to segment off different parts
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  Speaker 1: of their lives to to succeed or or survive, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and still just have the stress get to you. I
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  Speaker 1: think once you've committed regicide things, things can weigh on you,
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  Speaker 1: even if you have even if you of the occasional
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  Speaker 1: cathartic emotional release. Yeah yeah, so, um, you know, make
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  Speaker 1: thatth has never been one of I guess I'm spitting
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  Speaker 1: and turning around on the ground. If you're superstitious, I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing that for you right now. What twe spin? Spin spin? Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not super stick super superstitious, And also this is
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  Speaker 1: a podcast, but um, yeah, no, so that one I've
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  Speaker 1: I've recently enjoyed diving into even though it's not one
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  Speaker 1: of my faves. We have talked so much about Shakespeare, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's we don't ever have an agenda
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  Speaker 1: for the very opening of the show, so uh, and
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  Speaker 1: it's again something we're very passionate about and we're both
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  Speaker 1: very geeky about. It has played a part in our
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  Speaker 1: professional lives to some extent, like whether we've been performing
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  Speaker 1: in Shakespearean plays or we've uh done parodies of Shakespeare,
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  Speaker 1: which I used to do at the Renaissance Festival. I
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  Speaker 1: played Shakespeare for a season the character of Shakespeare at
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  Speaker 1: the Renaissance Festival. So like, it's it's an important part,
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  Speaker 1: and it's obviously also a literary influence that continues to
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  Speaker 1: inspire stories today. Where you know, Shakespeare stole almost everything
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  Speaker 1: he ever worked on, or at least he took inspiration
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  Speaker 1: from things that almost everything he worked on, with the
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  Speaker 1: possible exception of the Tempest. But but clearly, like those
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  Speaker 1: influences are still being felt today. So I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people are still stealing and just rebooting stuff. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's so many different examples of modern films and
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  Speaker 1: television series that were at some point or another inspired
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  Speaker 1: by Shakespeare, but we're going to be inspired to now
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  Speaker 1: jump into our beloved thirty seconds or less segment and
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  Speaker 1: I will get started now. So first up, we got
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  Speaker 1: word that there is a How to Train Your Dragon
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  Speaker 1: live action film in production. How to Train Your Dragon
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  Speaker 1: obviously a beloved series both in book form and in movies,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, bringing it from the animation to the live
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  Speaker 1: action world is what we can plan to see next. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it might take quite a while before that comes to pass,
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  Speaker 1: but it is in the works. I got one quick
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  Speaker 1: thing to say on that, which is they are. At first,
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  Speaker 1: I was like live action. There's so many dragons. Those
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  Speaker 1: can't be live action. They better be practical effects. But
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  Speaker 1: they are aware that they've got a really fine line
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  Speaker 1: to walk to make the dragons both likable and believable
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  Speaker 1: in a live action movie. Um, and they want to
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  Speaker 1: do that right. So hopefully they'll figure that out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they'll take some some cues from Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 1: They did dragons pretty well, not as like likable characters necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, you kind of felt like there was
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  Speaker 1: something there right, Like they did a pretty good job
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  Speaker 1: with the creation of the dragons. Okay, you're up arial
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  Speaker 1: all right. Uh. Emma Corring, who most people know as uh,
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  Speaker 1: Princess Diana in the fourth season of The Crown, which
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  Speaker 1: I have not watched. She was also in My Policeman
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  Speaker 1: and Lady chatter Lee's lover is joining Deadpool three as
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  Speaker 1: the villain. We don't know who, but we know that
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  Speaker 1: she's joining um buffer buffer buffer hopefully. Yeah. I know,
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  Speaker 1: we've got about ten seconds to kill so uh cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it does allow us to speculate who that
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  Speaker 1: villain might be, might even be a totally original character
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  Speaker 1: and not based off someone from the comics. We don't know, uh, Honestly, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm cool with not knowing anything else about Deadpool until
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  Speaker 1: it comes out because they've already got my ticket. Same cool,
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  Speaker 1: all right? Speaking about Deadpool, Uh, the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: have Wolverine coming into the m c U not a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: huge surprise, especially after Doctor Strange and the Multiverse amandess
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: where we got other characters. But recently Patrick Stewart hinted
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: that perhaps he's not done with the MCU, and moreover,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: that sir Ian McKellen might also pop up. Now how
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: they might do that, who's to say? Could be anything
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: could be in Dead Bull. Maybe it's something else. Maybe
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it's just wishfhole thinking we do not know m Maybe
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it's they're going to start their own geek podcast. Maybe
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they'll do Waiting for GOODO. But in MCU that I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: would I would watch that. I would watch that. Waiting
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: for GOODO is it's so funny? Um okay. Next we
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: have our first look of Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and Falia Do, which is the sequel to The Joker.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Um They released it on Valentine's Day. Lady Gaga looks
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: appropriately infatuated and kind of obsessed with the Joker in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the picture, but other than that, it just kind of
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: looks like Lady Gaga. It doesn't you know. I didn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: watch The Joker, so maybe it's just the tone of
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the movie in the universe, but she doesn't. There's nothing
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: about her that screams Harley Quinn. Yeah, I agree. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: think they took a very grounded approach with the first
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Joker film, so I'm guessing that's the same that they're
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: going to do with the sequel. Uh. A lot of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: people are worried that this version of Harley Quinn is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: going to take a big step back from the more
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: recent versions of her, where she's got more agency and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: is more of her own character. And of course, in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: past versions she was just completely in the thrall of
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the Joker and didn't have much much to her own credit. Uh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and that is unfortunate. Hopefully that is not what we're
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: going to get. I'm worried that it is what we're
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: going to get because it kind of falls into the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: same sort of pathway that the first Joker tread, which
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is kind of aggrieved white guy syndrome. Um. But you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: we can always hope that she's got more agency than that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We'll just have to wait and see. Okay, sorry, I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: didn't mean to drag that on for super long, but no,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: it's it's fun. I dragged on how to Train your Dragon,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So I dragged a dragon. I dragged Yeah, okay, from
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: from Joker to Poker right. So, as Ariel was just
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: hinting at, we have learned that poker Face is getting
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a second season. I've been watching poker Face. I'll probably
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: chat about in a second when we get through with
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the segment um. And yeah, it's it's really an entertaining show.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It's got its own issues, I would say, but it's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: been fun and it's nice to hear that they'll do
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: some more of them, so that's cool. I also have
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: some stuff to say about Peacock in just a second,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but what Ai'll talk first, Yeah, and the thing I'm
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: going to talk about, I'm gonna try to keep to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I'm super excited. Bill Waterson, the cartoonist best
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: known for Calvin's Calvin and Hobbs, went into retirement a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: while backing years or something, and now he's back with
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a new book along with caricaturist John cash Um. It
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is called The Mysteries. It's about a king who sends
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: out a team of knights to investigate some strange disasters happening,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and only one returns later. It's not at all in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this It's not like when Bill Waterson did a guest
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: illustration uh Lock and Key. It doesn't look at all
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like Calvin and Hobbs, but the the sample images look brilliant.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I loved Bill Waterson's work, and I am excited to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: read this new series, The Mysteries. It's cool like Calvin
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and Hobbs was such a an important comic strip for
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: me when I was growing up. Like, I loved that series,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and I have an enormous amount of respect for Bill
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Waterson for the way he handled his retirement because, unlike
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of other creators, he was always concerned about
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: like he did. He never wanted to give in to commercialism,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: uh and marketing and merchandizing and all that sort of stuff.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So all that Calvin and Hobbs imagery that you see,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: none of that is licensed. It's all been essentially pirate
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: id because that's not what he was about, and that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: he was like, no, I told the story I wanted
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to tell. The format of newspapers was such that it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't letting me express the story in the way that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I felt it needed to be expressed. And so I,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: rather than compromise, I'm out and man like that's that's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a powerful statement. Yeah, yeah, I thought honestly, I thought
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it was because he had told his story and he
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: was done. But you know, either way, great for um sticking,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: sticking to your quality control. Now before anyone at me
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: at me, I know that he did a stint on
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Pearls before Swine, which is another comic series, as a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: guest um in the last twenty eight years. But um,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that was brief. Okay. Finally, so Variety has a piece
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: about how Paramount Plus now Paramount Plus with Showtime and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Peacock are both having some issues because, like a lot
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of streaming platforms, they're losing money. The long term revenue
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: strategy is one that's unsustainable because you can't can constantly
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: add people, and so there's some questions about whether or
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: not these will stick around or if they will have
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to collapse. That's technically my thirty seconds, but I will say,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: like this is a continuation of what we've been hearing
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: since last year with Netflix really hitting the first major
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: stumbling block of its history. It's the same story that
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: we've seen over and over again, and it may very
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: well mean that this over saturation of streaming services that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we're in right now will be a very different picture
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: by the end of this year. Yeah, um, which as
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: an actor is both very frightening and also you know, again,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I want I want things to be made that are good,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and I want them to be sustainable so that people
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: can enjoy them for many seasons. So well, and and
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: like how I can understand as an actor being scared
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of seeing platforms go away because it could be mean
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that opportunities are decreasing, But at the same time, you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be stuck in a Quimby situation
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: right where you're like, Oh, I'm so excited I landed
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: this gig, and then like two weeks later the executives
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we decided to quit. Was stopped at
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: We're closed up shop. Like, like I said, it's it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a double edged sword, Like, I definitely want more opportunities,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: but I also want those opportunities to last. Um. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you know, and the quality because there, yeah, the more
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: quality things you put out, the more people are going
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to subscribe to streaming network. You know. Um, if you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: putting out a bunch of crap, people might let it go.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I know some people are like I don't like anything
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: that's coming out on Netflix. Not to say the stuff
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: on Netflix was crap, but it just wasn't for them
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and so they left. Um, but that's when Netflix was
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: turning out like a billion things of every kind of genre. Um.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But uh. But at the same time, like I don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: pay for every streaming service, I can't, so I also
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: from a consumer standpoint, I am happy to be able
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to pair that down. Yeah, and you know me, like, like,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: there are certain streaming services I do not subscribe to,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: like Hulu is one of them. Right, Um, I finally
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: subscribe to Peacock And of course now I've got Apple
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: TV Plus because of our lovely listener who who gifted
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: us some certificates so that we could try it out,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: which is awesome. Thank you, Gregory. We we've been waiting
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: until uh, until we have had time to actually sit
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and watch Apple TV. Um, but look forward to super
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: jumping into that. Gregory is an awesome listener. And I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: started by watching the first episode of Severance, which I
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: had already heard was like way up my alley and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: holy cats, were they right? Because I I watched it,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I thought, man, this is such a fun original. Not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not fun as in like were having lots of fun,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: but more like a creative science fiction concept, high concept
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: that is executed so well. I wouldn't say that it
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was like a billion percent original, right. I had heard
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of similar concepts within sci fi, but the way they
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: do it, it's so grounded and like there's just enough
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: humor without turning it into a comedy that I really
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: dig it. I haven't jumped into that. I'm really honest,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I have been focusing on my my gig at the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: beginning of next month, but that's that's this week. This week,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm catching up on Last of Us and I'm starting
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Apple TV and I'm super excited. Well before we jump
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: into all of our our trailer news because spoiler alert,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that's what like of this uppisode is going to be.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Um we you know, Ariel has been super busy working
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: on a gig that's coming up. We talked about it
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in a previous episode. She's her band is playing a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: show coming up soon at a local improv theater here
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But I have caught totally up on on
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the Last of Us. Ariel is still working on that,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and Uh, I want to say that her theory, she
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: she proposed a theory where every other episode was going
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: to be an emotionally traumatic one and then it'll alternate
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: with one where you can kind of recover a little bit. Uh.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Episode five proves that she's she's onto something because one, three,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: and five all destroyed me, and two and four, while
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: they had their emotional moments, did not, So I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think you might have guessed their secret sauce. Ariel
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I'm very smart. That's true. Yeah, it is true. Over
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the weekend, I sat down and I watched a sports event,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the Big Game, The Big Game, um, of which there
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: were many fun commercials, or at least I expected that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go off on a little tangent. Jonathan
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't like watching the Big Game, but I do. Um.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I enjoy sports ball a little bit, and uh, I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: used to. I used to kind of like playing it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I was never good at uh. But uh, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I so I want to watch the game, and I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: want to watch the commercials. But the commercials this year,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: we're all pointing you to go watch a full commercial elsewhere,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: whether via QR code or YouTube or something like that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And either I'm going to have to stop watching the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: thing that I turned on to watch to go watch
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: your commercial and miss parts of the game or other
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: commercials that you know historically have been fun, or I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: have to wait till the end of the event, at
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: which case I've probably forgotten that I want to watch
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: or full commercial. Um Um. I understand saving money, and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I understand like building a pipe that I wasn't a
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: fan of the trend to this year. Yeah, where where
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the commercial serves as like, here's the first half or
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: maybe first third of whatever it is we're doing, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: to see the rest you have to go online, whereas
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: for me, I just saw them all online. So the
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: thing that Ariel was trying to avoid leading into the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Big Game ended up being the right way to just
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: go ahead and consume the darn stuff. Uh. But yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: we've got a whole bunch of trailers that were shown
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: during that game. If you're wondering why we keep saying
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the Big Game, that's because the official terms are all trademarked,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's it's it's dangerous to say that name
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: because you can get you can get takedown strikes and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: stuff and copyright now well, trademark notices really, um things
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I learned today. Yeah, No, it's kind a lame. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: mean it's not kind of lame. It's extremely lame because
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, dude, you're getting so much free publicity except
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you're saying no. But on the flip side, that's how
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: protecting your trademark works. If you don't actively do it,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: then you lose trademark protection entirely. I get it, But
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like that particular event is even though it
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: is one specific event. I feel like it's used in
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the same way that like iron hook connectivity strips or
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: wound coverage elastics. I don't know what the engineering terms
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: are or nose tissues are, you know, like you use
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the brand names interchangeable as the like that's a compliment, right,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: That's well that that's what they want to avoid though,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: because you know that's they don't want it to enter
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: into the common parlance because then you lose that trademark protection,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: which if you're using the trademarked term as leverage so
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that you can charge a truckload of money for thirty
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: seconds of commercial time, then you can start to see why.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But even so it is it's a ridiculous situation. Anyway,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. Let's let's talk about some
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: of the movie trailers that were kind of use the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Big Game as a debut platform. And first up we
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: have the flash Yes, which was one of the ones
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that said here's a tiny little clip, go watch it online.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: So eventually did that. I made a list. I had
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to keep a list during the game of things that
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I wanted to go watch later. Frustrating. Um, so this
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: trailer focused a lot on the special guests that would
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: show up in it. UM, I feel like it gave
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a good idea of what the plot would be without
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: um giving away too much. And also Flashpoint is a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: pretty dark storyline, which is what this Flash movie is. UM.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the trailer at least had a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: good amount of heart and a good amount of like
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: fun things in it that I didn't feel slogged down
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: watching the trailer, which is conflicting to me because we
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: all know that Ezra Miller has caused enough problems that
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: they may not continue being the Flash, But the trailer
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: looked really good to me. Agreed, I I feel much
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the same way. I certainly think that the trailer presents
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a a I mean, James Gunn has said that it
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: was like the best DC film to date in the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: in the modern DC universe, and the trailer seems to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: indicate that that could very well be the case. Uh.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It was great seeing Michael Keaton's version of Batman on screen,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and which is not a surprise, I mean, we've that's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: been talked about for a couple of years now as
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: this film was in development, but also hearing Danny Elfman's
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Batman score from the Tim Burton Batman films was great,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Like I loved it when that popped up as part
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: of the score for Batman Versus Superman, where you had
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the John Williams Superman theme and the Danny Elfman Batman
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: theme kind of interplay with one another. I thought that
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was the best thing about that terrible movie, and so
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I u as in wrestling terms, I marked out when
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I heard the Danny Elfman theme come up. Uh. I.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I still feel very conflicted about this because of the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: stuff that Ezra Miller did. I don't find it as
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: easy to forgive as some of the industry has seemed
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to indicate, because some of the charges are so disturbing
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and serious that I don't think you can just say, like, oh,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it's a mental health thing. They're working on it, they're
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: trying to be a better person. Those are all good things,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but the the extent of the alleged UH crimes is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: such that I cannot easily say, yeah, I want to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: go see a movie with this person in it. So
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it's m I feel a bit conflicted about that. Look,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I I'm in the same boat. Honestly, I like I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: own a baby Driver, which was a very fun movie,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: but had a very problematic actor in it, found out
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: after I bought Baby Driver. Um, and I like the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: rest of the actors in it. So it is it is,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: it is, you know it is hard. Yeah. How do
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you think I feel my house is in Baby Driver? Yeah? Yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking of DC, something I did watch I think I
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: watched it this weekend was Black Adam have already talked
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: about that with you? No, you haven't. I have not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: seen it, So what was your was your reaction? Um?
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I think the storyline was really weak. I think in
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: d C has this problem where like they I don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: even know if it's The storyline and plot was weak.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: It used a fictional country and it felt like it
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was trying to make a political message with a fictional country,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: but it was neither a good nor strong enough political message.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And also, um, they didn't make it relatable to nowadays.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like that being said, the acting was some
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of like the street level characters of the non superhero
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: characters were a little blase. Um. The all the superheroes
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I thought were fantastically cast, and I really enjoyed watching
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: every single one of them as their superhero. I would
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: watch them again as their superhero. I felt like some
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: of them didn't belong in the Black Adam movie. And
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I felt like there was a lot of comedy that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: was really great comedy, really well delivered, but also did
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: not fit in the movie. Like there's a moment where
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson as uh fifth Adam, I think that's what
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: he goes by through most of the movie. It's his name,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: um drop somebody and tries to deliver a catchphrase and uh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: it doesn't get the timing right. It's a brilliant moment,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: but that moment within the larger moment I didn't fit.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, because we all know Dwyne Johnson has fantastic
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: comedic timing. Um, So you know it's it's a little
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: sad because I loved Hawkman, I loved uh is It,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Doctor Fate, doctor Feete. Yes, I liked Adam Smasher, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: liked cyclone Um, and I liked I like some of
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the street level characters. There were some really good moments.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: There were some really good and funny moments, and there
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: were some really good overall moments, but I just felt
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: it was a little messy and a little disjointed in
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a little week well, also, I can't tell you the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: moment because I don't remember. But my husband pointed out
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: they set up a Chekhov's gun um and then never
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: used it. They failed to pay off. Yeah, and like
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I've blocked it out of my memory, but when he
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: told me, I was infuriated about it. That's just a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: basic rule, Like you have basic rules of storytelling. You show,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you don't tell, and if you show a gun, you
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: gotta shoot the darn gun. Yeah. That being said, I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: really liked so we all know that Hawkman and Black
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Adam have to fight at some point during the movie,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and the movie has been out long enough that I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: don't feel like it's spoilers. Um. I really liked how
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like Hawkman was not stronger than Black Adam, but he
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: was so tenacious, which is what I want out of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: my Hawkman. So that was that was really good. That
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: was Those were good moments. All I want out of
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: my Hawkman is for him to do a Brian Blessed
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: impression the entire time. I mean, I get it, like
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of to have a Hawkman in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the Flash is kind of paralleling. Um. Yeah, for those
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: of you who don't know what I'm talking about, you
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: need to watch the nine eighties film Flash. Gordon brilliant, brilliant,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: brilliant soundtrack by Queen and Brian Blessed plays the leader
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: of the Hawkman and uh and he he leaves no
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: scenery unchewed. It's a fun it's a fun old movie.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: It's definitely old. It doesn't completely hold up, but it's
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: very confusing as a young child to Flash, very very schlocky,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and it's it's even when it was made, it was
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: essentially trying to kind of embrace the pulp uh hero
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: tone and the comedic or at least the over the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: top tone of the original storyline, which came out like
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: forty years earlier. So uh, it was. It was definitely
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: a product that was searching for the right audience. And
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the people who love it love it, and everyone else
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is like, I don't ever need to see that. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: just like Black Adam. If you loved it, that's super awesome.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: There were some good moments and there were some great characters.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Something else I definitely don't need to see. As Transformers
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Rise of the Beasts, we got another trailer for that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: This new trailer didn't sell you anymore. No, I mean,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: like they've already burnt every bridge for Transformers for me, Like,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen two Transformers movies. They were not consecutive, but
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: they both did have Sam Witwicky as the protagonist, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that is the least likable protagonist of I've ever watched.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Possibly like he is. He is an unredeemable, terrible human being.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: He is just a horrible human being, not a villain,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: just a selfish, idiotic character that I cannot care about
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and therefore have no desire to watch now. To be fair,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the Rise of the Beast does not have that character
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: in it, but I just don't know Anthony Ramos, who
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: is delightful. Anthony Ramos was in Hamilton's and in The
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Heights and a bunch of other stuff. That's great, and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I hope that Anthony Ramos makes all of the money
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: from this film, but I will not care about it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Like I also, I also don't have a soft spot
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: on my heart for the Transformers. Like I recognize what
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the Transformers are. They were as a cartoon that was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: made to sell toys. That's what the Transformers existed to do.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: The toys were awesome, they were great. Like people, we
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: people had to figure out how to make the toys
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: be able to transform into different stuff, and they did it,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and those toys were really cool. Yeah, including like the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: current Lego Transformer that also transforms without taking it apart. Yeah,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that's to me, that's brilliant. Like, that's just amazing creativity there.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: The stories, at least in the original run, left a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: lot to be desired. That doesn't mean that there weren't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: better storytellers who came along and actually tried to make
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: really compelling narratives out of the Transformer stories. It's just
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that I never really bought into that. I never really
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: cared about it. And when I watched the films, the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: films were so waited on spectacle, and that spectacle was
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: all computer generated, and like the transformation sequences, it just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: looked like flashy metal gears and stuff in front of
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: your face and then suddenly it was something else. It
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: never looked like the thing that was a robot went
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: through a logical set of steps to turn into whatever
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: else it was. I agree, And I had the same
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: problem with um Cyborg in the Justice League movie. Um, yeah, no,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I get it this look. I am not excited to
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: watch the Rise of the Beasts either. There was one
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: moment in this trailer that I thought was cute, which
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: means it's to me better than the last trailer. May
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: what was the moment that was cute? It was where
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Anthony Ramos was talking to one of the sassier transformers
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: whose name I can't remember at the moment, Porsche though maybe.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Well it's the reason why I say Porsche is because
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the Porsche logo is extremely prominent in this Rise of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the Beasts trailer, and uh, it almost feels like gets
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: more like, hey, this is also a commercial for Porsche,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the car brand that needs to be advertised
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: because who hasn't heard of Porsche? I mean, I don't know.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just maybe I'm just grouchy, and that's it. That's
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: what we can just chocol this up to. Jonathan's a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: grouchy man, that is true. Well, did the New Guardians
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: of the Galaxy trailer at least make you not a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: little grouchy? I thought this one was a great trailer.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: It's still obviously indicating that this is going to be
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: a truly emotional film, that it's got a lot of
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: finality to it. We know that, Uh, Dave Batista, for example,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: this is the last of the movies he's going to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: appear in as Drags, which at least suggests that this
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: character may not survive throughout the film. Maybe he does,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: maybe he goes to live out the rest of his
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: days somewhere else when he like he's finally satisfied or something.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: We don't know, but my money is on he doesn't
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: make it. There's a lot of crying in the trailer.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of crying in the trailer, but I
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: liked bits of it. I also thought the fleeting hint
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: we get that perhaps Peter Quill and Nebula might harbor
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: some sort of feelings for each other was really interesting.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that's just going to be a joke
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: or if that's actually going to play out more in
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the movie. I did not expect to like Karen Gillan
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: as Nebula as much as I have. Uh, she's brilliant
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in that role. Um, she is great. Yeah, it's well,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: it's a character who doesn't have any real humor to
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: her at all when you first encounter her in the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: m c U. And then as the series goes on,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: they really they really use her like she's very similar
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to tracks, right, like she She misinterprets things, she doesn't
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: understand references, she gets things wrong all the time. But
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: she's got a d percent conviction when she's delivering whatever
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the line is, and that's where the comedy comes out of.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So very similar to drag them anyways, But Karen Gillen
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: is just so good at delivering those moments that it
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: really it works, it sells. Yeah, yeah, she she has
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: risen in in my ranks of actresses that I really
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: enjoy um. I liked the Galaxy of the Guardians the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Guardians Lord Guardians of the Galaxy three trailer, this one
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: more than the last one. It felt a little less
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: dire um and I also liked I like the look
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: of Adam Warlock, so I'm excited to get to see
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: him do his thing. I like that actor. We've been
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: waiting for so long for Adam Warlock, since Guardians of
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the Galaxy too. We've been waiting for the emergence of
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: this character. Like I was worried that this was gonna
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: be an unresolved Tchekhov's gun. Yeah, listen, I just hope
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: they bring Ben Browder back as his uh peace Keeper
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: gold Peacekeeper guy. Uh. He wasn't a peacekeeper and guardians
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the galaxy too, but he might as well have been,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: which is the militant race in um for Escape. Well,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: we also got another spot for the movie that I
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: have famously been a little skeptical about, which is Dungeons
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and Dragons. I like that you put this down as
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: the D and D Big Game spot because I read
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it as their big game spot and it's only a
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: thirty second trailer. No, it's for the Big Game because
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: we can't say the other name for it. The thing is,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: they didn't. I don't think they played it during the
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Big Game. Well, it was when I was doing like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: my rounds on YouTube because I didn't watch the game.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: As Zariel mentioned, I was just on YouTube looking for
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: trailers that were debuting around the time of the game.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: This was one of the ones that popped up, and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: not being able to verify one way or the other,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I just put it down as the Big Game trailer.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: That's fine. I mean they released it around that time
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: specifically for that. It's a thirty second spot. It's mainly
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: just action, we really honest, but that kind of made
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: me more excited about the movie. There is one moment
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: where uh, Michelle Rodriguez takes like a bow and arrow
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and sticks it around. I'm guessing they're bad guys to adversaries.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Next and like pulls it and like uh clotheslines them
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: with the arrow the bow, and I thought that was
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: so much fun. Yeah, it was a creative use of
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: the weapon, like really explains how the fighter class is
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: important in D in D because having that proficiency with
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: all the different weapons lets you do stuff like that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, without you probably wouldn't be able to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: get through. And they look, I am sure there's going
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: to be more like relationships set up and character set
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: up that will make the jokes funnier and make those
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: moments better. Um. You know, they don't want to explain
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: too much because then it goes into telling and not showing. Yeah. Um,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I honestly like that moment made me feel like something
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I would have done as a finer. Indeed, to be
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: completely honest, I don't I don't always play chaotic characters,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: but sometimes my parties bring that out in me. Um.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know. I'm I'm getting from your
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: tone that this still did not give you any hope
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for the movie. It's I wouldn't say I don't have
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: any hope for it. I will say that I don't.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: First of all, Okay, based on what I've seen, I
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be better than any other D
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and D movie, but that is hardly over bar. Yeah,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: it's a very low bar to clear. Uh. I think
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: it will be a perfectly adequate fantasy action film. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: do not think it's going to join the ranks of
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the fantasy films that I really love and will go
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: back to watch again and again. So and some of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: the films I really love, a lot of people would
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: argue do not merit a lot of acclaim because they
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: were just kind of they were okay. But when you're
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: looking at the fantasy genre, there are a few standouts
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: like the Lord of the Rings trilogy, not the Hobbit stuff,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: but the Lord of the Rings trilogy that are that
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: are viewed as like, this is the top of the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: top for this genre. But then you've got a really
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: big gap, and you have a whole bunch of movies
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: that are kind of in the middle where they're okay. Uh,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And maybe some of them are super schlocky, but they're entertaining.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe some of them aren't very schlocky, but they have
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: their own drawbacks, and then beneath that, you've got everything else.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And I think this one's going to kind of fall
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: into that middle ground for me, but for other people,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: maybe they will love it, maybe will become their favorite
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: fantasy film, which would be awesome. Listen, I super respect
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: your opinion. I don't even necessarily think you're wrong. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: suspect that you will be correct, but I hope that
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it surprises you, so do I I mean, if I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: if I go into it and I come out and
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I say, man, and I was completely wrong about that.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I love that movie. That's the best problem in the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: world to have to come onto a podcast and say, y'all,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I was wrong. This movie rocks. That's a great that's
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: a great problem, which is exactly what you're going to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: say when you watch Fast X. I'm sure. Yeah, after
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I've get my way through Fast one through nine, plus
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Hobbs and Shaw and any other spinoffs I don't know about.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, So we also talked about We also looked
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: at the trailer for Fast ten uh and um yeah yeah.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Jason Momoa is in it, um as the bad guy.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Because you know, every movie has to have a big
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: beefy bad guy in it, or a big beefy antagonist,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: if not an outright bad guy. So we've had like
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: big beefy charismatic antagonist. Yeah, because we had Dwayne the Rock,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Johnson and John Cena and not all of these were
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like quote unquote bad guys, but they were antagonists, right,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: they opposed uh the family and oh so you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: we get Jason Momoa being Jason Momo. He's essentially Aquaman
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: but in a car. Yeah. I mean I had a
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: friend after watching the Fast X trailer from the Super Bowl, go, uh,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: these are these are the expendable babies, the expendables babies,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: And I agree, it's the expendables, but they're all younger,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: not retired esque retired, not all of the like, yeah,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like I don't know. It doesn't
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: much expendables either two or three. I saw the I
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: saw most of the first one, but yeah, I just
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it never has hit me.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not a car person, so that's a big part
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: of it, right, Like I just couldn't care less about cars. Okay,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I still love you with my friend, that's fine. Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: we all have our drawbacks in mind is that I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: could not care less about cars and car related media. Um,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: we already established that with Transformers, right so, But but
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that clearly these are movies that are designed to be
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: viewed in a cinema on the big screen with the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: crazy surround sounds, so that you get sensory overload as
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: these impossible scenarios play out on the screen in front
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: of you. But again, because they have gotten so crazy,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: so uh ridiculously over the top that it's divorced from
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: reality to me. So I just can't buy into it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I I I watch it and I just think, well,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: this is just so ridiculous that I can't even have
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: fun with it. You might as well, in the next movie,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: have them drive a car straight up the side of
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: a skyscraper from the ground all the way to the top,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: because it's just as realistic as the other stuff we're watching.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And why not at this point, or have a car,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you know, be able to drive in the middle of
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the sky it doesn't have any rockets, or it's just
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: driving through the sky. Why not. Okay, so you won't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: watch Fast X, You'll just watch Space Already. Listen, there
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: were a bunch of trailers that came out around the
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Big Game that we're not connected to the Big Game
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: or marketed as a part of the Big Game. Um,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: that all all honest, most of them, not all. Most
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: of them look pretty cool to me. Um, we're running
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: very long, so I don't know how long we're gonna
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna spend on each of these, but we'll definitely
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: put them in the show notes. The first is Space Oddity,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: which is something I didn't know about until Jonathan found it.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Um about a guy who's like, I got nothing left
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to lose. I'm going to go to Mars and I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: know I'm never coming back, and then just like his
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: family struggles around that, and like what happens when you build,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: when you do build relationships on Earth and do your
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: priorities change? It looks delightful. Yeah, this looks like a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: really interesting film because, like the basic premise is like, well,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: let's let's assume we've reached a point where we can
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: send a human being to Mars. Are talking about it,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: but but we also know that it's a one way trip,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that there is no way to get the person back
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to Earth. So when they go to Mars, that's where
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: they're going to live out the rest of their lives.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: So some people look at it and say, well, that's
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: just a death sentence. Others might say, no, you're gonna
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: live out your life. But and yes, you will die,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: and you will die on Mars as opposed to on Earth,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: but you will eventually die here on Earth. It's not
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: like it's a death sentence. It's just you're living out
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: your life in a different place. And the character encounter
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: as a young woman named Daisy who that's who he
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: starts to kind of develop feelings for and develop at
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: least a close relationship like a friendship, if not at
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: a romantic relationship, and that this is going to end
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: up affecting how he feels about the decision and to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: question whether or not his decision is a good one.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: It has had the best reviews because it actually was
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival last summer. It just
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: hadn't been released to wide release yet. But it was
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: directed by Cia Sedgwick and Kevin Bacon shows up in it,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: so not a big surprise there, but yeah, they it
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: looks interesting to me. It's an interesting concept of for it.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: And then You've got some other fun geeky folks in it,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: like Simon Helberg of Big Bang Theory fame. I think
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of him as Moist from Dr Horrible Singalong Blog. He's
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: in it as a character named Dmitri, so you get
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: to listen to him to a Russian accent, which to
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: me is worth the price of admission. Yeah. Yeah, I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's gonna be I think I'll
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's not going to be like a ha
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: ha or super exciting movie, but it'll be interesting. Um Okay.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Next we have School Spirits, which is about a girl
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: who gets murdered, uh supposedly but doesn't know by who,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: and ends up haunting her high school with a bunch
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: of other ghosts who got also killed at high school
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and are just stuck there now. Yeah, so it's it's
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: kind of like the same rules you would find for beetlejuice,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: where you are limited your existence is limited to haunt
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: the place of your death, which I mean, I guess
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of ghost lore is based around that too, right,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Like the ghost is tied to a physical location because
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: that physical location is where the person who would uh
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: evolve into a ghost was was extinguished, and so it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: part part mystery, part like teenage drama. Y Uh, there's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of comedy in the preview that we saw,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: but obviously if you're talking about solving a murderer and
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you're talking about teenagers in the school, there's some heavy
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: stuff there too. Uh. But yeah, she ends up as
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: a ghost, joining kind of like a ghost support group
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: at the school of other people who have suffered, you know,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: a tragic fate on school grounds. And uh, I thought
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked uh interesting, I mean interesting enough
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: for me to at least check out the beginning of
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the series. Yeah, I like it looked interesting to me too.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It it had a really good balance between the suspense
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and the comedy and the I guess the feels as
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: much feels as a trailer can give you. Um. Yeah, no,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I'm for a high school drama. This is one of
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: the ones that I am more excited about. Yeah, same here. Uh, Like,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I haven't felt any need to watch was it is
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a wolf pack. That's the one that Sarah Michelle Geller
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: has has appeared in. Now, I haven't watched any of that,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: nor did I watched Teen Wolf. I it takes a
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: special kind of pitch for me to get invested in
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: a in a teen age series at this point, simply
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: because I'm so far removed from that. I don't have kids,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and so I don't have that connective tissue anymore. I'm
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I'm so beyond the drama of being a teenager. I
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: don't even have any context of what being a teenager
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: today even is like because the world is so different
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: from when I was a teenager. I totally get that, Well,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: do you do? You have better context for what it's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like to be a very creepy child nowadays? I mean,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I've always had that always. Yeah. So we are now
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: at the point of the episode where we have to
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: talk about a trailer that I picked because it's a
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: horror movie trailer and it's not an episode of Larger
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: or Drunk Collider. Unless I make arial watch a trailer
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: for a horror movie. You made me watch two scary
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: trailers this week, I would only say this is I'd say, so,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a movie that actually was was uh
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: scheduled to be released back in twenty but then a
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: little thing called COVID nineteen totally mess that up. And
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: it's yet another take on the Stephen King story of
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: Children of the Corn. This particular Children of the Corn film,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: uh is sort of a prequel. It's it's how the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: children end up if you don't know what the premises
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: behind Children of the Corn. In the story, some adults
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: end up stopping in this little town I believe it's
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: in Nebraska, and discover that all the adults in the
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: town have been killed by the children who live in
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: the town, and that the children have a society where
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: at the age of nineteen you are sacrificed to an
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: entity called He who walks behind the Rose and uh,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: it's a horror ws not r O s e yes, yes,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: the rows of corn in other words, and that the
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: characters have to try and find a way to escape
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: these evil children. Well, this series or this movie is
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: a sin really, the the unfolding of how a child
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: encounters this this entity is seduced by that in the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: sense of she is convinced by the entity that this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: is the right thing to do, and then leads the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: children on there evil crusade to extinguish all the adults.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: So the trailer looks well done. What I will say
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: is I never watched the original. I never read the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Stephen King story. Uh, the the only knowledge I have
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: of the original Children of the Corn movie. And this
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: may not even be correct because when I was Google
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: image searching, which man my ad choice is going to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: be weird now? Was uh Disney Adventure there. Disney used
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: to have a like a comic book slash readers digest
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: for children called Disney Adventures, and I used to get
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: that as a subscription or buy it in the grocery
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: store when I had enough allowance money. And there was
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: one Halloween episode where they went into like special effects makeup,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and I think they had special effects makeup for Children
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of the Corn where it looks like you kind of
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: had like Cornel's boiling off of your face, looking like
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Google searching for like Children of the Corn disfiguration or
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: special effects makeup, I couldn't find any of that. So
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: this might be a completely false memory I've just made
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: up and has really stuck with me. Yeah, I you
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: describing that makes like rings no bells for me. Now,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I've seen there are a lot of Children of the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Corn movies, y'all. They're like eleven or twelve of them
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: already at this point. And well, and they're not all
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: like sequential either, because people have retold the story multiple times. Um,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: but I and I haven't seen all of them, so
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I can't say that that definitively never was part of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: the Children of the Corn. You did read every Disney Adventures.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: All I'm trying to say, Ariel, is that that doesn't
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: ring any bells for me. That's all I can say.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: All I can say is that I am not familiar
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: with this grotesque description that you have just given us.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I am certain that there was this, uh there was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: this special effects makeup in a Disneydventures magazine, whether it
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: was attached to the Children of the Corn or I
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: just think that because they used corn as a part
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: of the makeup process. I don't know if anybody out
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: there read that issue. Let me know if you remember.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Um that being said, I will not watch this new movie,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: no matter how well it looks like it's done. I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: know I've been delving more into scary and more into
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Stephen King, but I was recently talking about uh, like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: middle school reading material for kids, and The Lord of
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: the Flies came up, and I remember how much that
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: book and that movie really old movie like super disturbed me.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I'm done with creepy little children for a while. Yeah, well,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: children are a never ending source of creepiness for me.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: And whether it's the creepy girl who keeps crawling out
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: of my TV I am so tired of that BS
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, or we're talking about those twins at
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: the hotel I have to go to all the time
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: for work telling me that I need to play. You know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: I get it, you can get me you need to
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: play more. But yeah, well, I will say that the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: feeling I get from watching like a really well done
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: peace that it has creepy children in it. The feeling
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I get from that is the same feeling I got
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: when I walked through the Center of Puppetry Arts Museum
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: after hours one day with all the lights off, because
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: seeing all the dead puppets just staring at me, and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: then occasionally one on a actuator would turn its head,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that gave me that same feeling. So let's say the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: middle of the day, and I love the Center for
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: publisher Yards. But middle of the day, if you go
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: into museum and you're like the only person there, it's
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: still a little creepy, I'm gonna say. And I love puppets.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I've done puppeteering. Um okay, I'm from creepy to just
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: a really cool trailer. Jonathan said this might be made
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: just be made for him, but it is also made
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: for me. There's a movie coming out called The Lost King.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Apparently it's based on a true story that I'm not
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: familiar with, but it's about a woman who kind of
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: gets aged out of her job and then goes to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: try to find Is it Richard the Third's bones is? Yes?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: And this actually this actually did Okay, some variation of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: this story actually did happen. Now. I say it like
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: that because there are conflicting narratives over who had the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: most involvement at different stages. This particular film is taking
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the position of the woman in question, who became uh
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: fixated on trying to find the remains of Richard the Third. So,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Richard the Third famously was defeated at the Battle of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Bosworth Field. Henry Tutor, who would become Henry the Seventh,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: was victorious in that and Richard the Third was killed
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: in that battle, but his body had been lost to time.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: It was said to have been buried in like a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Gray Friars church grounds, but that church grounds had long
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: since been lost over the ages as the town in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the area had grown. And so this woman becomes obsessed
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: with Richard the third One because she thinks that he
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: has been unfairly maligned, largely by Shakespeare, and that the
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: trailer starts with her watching the play and saying, I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: don't think he'd be this bad just because of the disfiguration.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Basically yeah, yeah, and then um, the the story is
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: about her kind of solving the mystery of where his
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: bones might be based upon historical accounts and like the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: geographic features of the town. And it is true that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: several years ago, a decade ago at this point, essentially
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: that an excavation at a parking lot or car park
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: if you prefer, in England un covered the remains of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Richard the Third which had been thought to potentially have
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: been lost forever. There were a lot of people who
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: assumed that his body had been thrown into a nearby river. Uh.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: So this is kind of the story behind that discovery,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: with the bias being on one side's version of that story.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: But just know that there are other versions, Like it's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: not just hers, there are others that conflict somewhat with
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: her account, but it is a fascinating little bit of history.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: And the fact that they dramatize this where the woman
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: frequently imagines Richard the Third appearing before her, is really
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. Yeah. At one point she says, I'm
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: pretty sure that I'm imagining you, which which isn't. I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: didn't expect her to say, the trailer looks great. You
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: should check it out. I think I will. Definitely. I'm
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna say I think I will watch this movie.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: This is this is going on my watch list. Um.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Something I don't know if it's going on my watch
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: list is the new Great Expectations series that is being
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: produced by Tom Harley and Ridley Scott. Um it's I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: never read Great Expectations, but I did not know that
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: it was as creepy as it is. And I know
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Charles Dickens does creepy stuff. Christmas Carol is technically creepy.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know this was so creepy. Jonathan, Well, this
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: is the this is the half scary trailer. I mean,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: it does have creepy elements to it. Miss Havisham in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Great Expectations is uh, certainly an eccentric woman, but you
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: could easily imagine her as being very creepy, especially when
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: you start to learn more and more about her, her
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: motivations and her her perspective in life. But she's a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: woman who has left at the altar, and so that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: experience forever changes her to the point where she where's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: her wedding dress? From that point forward. UM At one point,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: she has lost one of her shoes and she just
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: continues to move around walking in one shoe. And she
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: has not done that. I've done that, I've done that. Well,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: she she becomes, She becomes this this very powerful influence
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: for the protagonist of the UM. The the story Pip
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Philip Parrop better known as Pip. And yeah, this trailer,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Like I had forgotten how uh dramatic that story is
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: and how much violence is in it. And like, as
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I was watching the trailer, I was because I haven't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: read Great Expectations since I was a kid, but I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: did read it, And as I was watching, and I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: was thinking, like, wow, I remember the basics of this
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: story about miss Havisham and her vendetta against all men
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: and her desire to make pips life miserable because he's male. Uh,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: But I didn't remember any of the other details. And
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: as this trailer was playing out, I was like, man,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: this is hardcore, and uh yeah, I think it's a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: really effective trailer. It's definitely grittier than what you typically
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: see with a Dickens and adaptation. M hmm yeah. Um,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: speaking of effective trailers, we got a trailer for a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Tetris film that is coming out on Apple TV plus. Um.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: This is not, as far as I know, the same
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Tetris trilogy movie h three quel that we were going
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: to get. Um, but it looks really good. It stars
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Taran Edgerton. Um. They kind of like despite it being
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: like based on the real bonkers story of Tetris, like
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: they put in like little bits during action moments of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: like them going eight that it looks this. I did
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: not think I could be so excited for a Tetris film. Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: So this is the story behind the discovery of Tetris
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: by the Western world, because Tetris was programmed by a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: man who was living in the then Soviet Union, and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: the story about how how do you get something that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: was created in the Soviet Union so that you can
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: produce it as a video game that's accessible to the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: rest of the world because the Soviet Union was notoriously
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: closed off to the rest of the world, especially well
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the capitalist world, and so this story is is sort
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: of a recounting of what that process was like. And
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: by the way, I have covered that story before in
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: tech stuff at least part of it, and um, spoiler alert,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: it does not It does not see great riches and
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: acclaim fall on the the guy who programmed it, because
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: the Soviet Union's stance was that the state owns everything,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: not the individual. So yeah, did not he did not
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: enjoy great success from it, at least not initially. It
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: took a long time for any acknowledgement really to follow
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: his way. But yeah, this was This is one of
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: those games that, because it really became known in the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: West at the same time as the launch of the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Game Boy, would be a huge part of the game
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Boys success story. So I am also excited. I also
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: think that the style they've gone with is really engaging.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I I think so too. Um. I actually had a
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: friend because I shared this trailer as soon as I
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: saw it on I've got a like a discord friend
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: group that we'll share trailers so that we don't miss them,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of the things that we
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: talked about here I share with that group. So I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: shared the Tuchis trailer no one had found it yet,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: and I had a friend pop up saying I got
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: to see the machine that that game was created on,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: UM during a job interview. Uh, which is pretty interesting. Um,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: if you watched the film, I'm sure you'll understand why
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: that's fascinating. Yeah, I'm just super excited about it. Also,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie they played my band plays the Tetris theme.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: It's actually called the Kotabushka. I might be mispronouncing it,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: but that's how we say. It's a Ukrainian folk tune,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: is what I know it as, UM and like there's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: a dance to it. The sea does a bunch of
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: stuff to it. But my band plays it, and in
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: the trailer they I don't know if it's a full
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: mash up, but they interspersed final Countdown with it, And now,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: like I desperately want to recreate that version of the song,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: just just saying Yeah, we have a couple of superhero
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: things to talk about. I'm going to say briefly because
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: we are running along. UM. The first is that Leslie
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Grace who was the star of that Backgirl movie that
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: got scrapped. Um says she saw clips of it and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: thought it was really good. Yes, she was essentially saying
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: that the narrative of it being positioned as unreleasable in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: her opinion, that doesn't hold water. She said, no, it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: was you know, the version I saw. Obviously, it wasn't
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: a finished film and they were still supposed to be
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: reshoots and we were looking to get the money to
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: fund those reshoots. But that the version she saw was good.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: And she is extremely diplomatic in the interview where she
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: talks about this and Fraser both were very diplomatic. Yeah
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: they Fraser, they but yeah, they both. They both were
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: very diplomatic in it obviously, because you know, you've got
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: to be careful. You don't want to burn bridges. You
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: don't want to get a reputation for being difficult to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: work with. Even if you're right in the studio is wrong,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: you still have to be careful. So I and I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to put words in her mouth. I don't
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: want to suggest that perhaps she feels more, she has
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: more strong feelings than what she indicates in the interview.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Her interview, maybe her perspective, in which case she has
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: a much more mature perspective of than I would have
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: if I were in her position. Well, I mean, so
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to know like the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: full truth, because it basically comes down to he said
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: she said at this point for most of the public, right, Um,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: that's that's even the wrong phrase, like just what the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: studio says versus what the actors say. She did not
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: see a full finish, she just saw clips from it.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: And one, I think it's amazing that she can watch
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: back her for performance and think it's really good. I
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: have a hard time with that. I'm still growing as
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: an actor, but I know a lot of actors have
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: difficulties with that. So one, I think that's fantastic. Um, Right,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: And Fraser talks highly about her, and I think his
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: work ethic and his acting ability is fantastic too, So
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you know, there's that that being said, The clips might
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: have been great, but as an overall movie like it
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: may not have felled to the acting. It might have
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: fallen to editing or the script or the continuity of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the story, or you know, even just the fact the
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  Speaker 1: amount of reshoots they'd have to do to get it
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  Speaker 1: to where they thought it was going to be profitable,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: was more than they wanted to spend. Yeah, Or it
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  Speaker 1: could be that David Zaslov said I need a tax
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  Speaker 1: right off. Let's entirely possible too. And you know studios
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  Speaker 1: will say very um diplomatic things sometimes to cover there.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I can't prove I don't know either,
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  Speaker 1: but I worked for David Zaslov, So I'll just say
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  Speaker 1: that if that, in fact is what happened, I am
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: not surprised. So I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: just saying I get it. You have more insight. But
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: the other thing is Leslie grief should be diplomatic because
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: just because they scrapped the one of the things that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Brandon Fraser said was that, you know, it's sad that, uh,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: this is another um example of inclusivity that that children,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: young girls are not going to get to see and say,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: there's a bad girl that looks like me because Leslie
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Grace is Latina. Um. But there is a chance that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: they might make a different a girl movie. She hasn't
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: shown up in the d C EU, so they could
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: reuse her if in fact, her performances were good, she
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: could show up elsewhere. She could show up in the Batman,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: in the in the other verse. It's not what it's
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: called the else worlds the same thing. Um. So like, yeah,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you you never know what opportunities will open when a
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: door closes, and I hope more opportunities open up for her.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: I guess I also do want to say that I'm
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: sad we don't get to see Brendan Fraser playing a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: bad guy. Uh, yeah, I get it. Uh, My folks
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: just watched the old George of the Jungle over the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: weekend and now I'm feeling I have to go back
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: and watch some Um. But no, I agree. He was
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: the Firefly, um, which is not a h It's not
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  Speaker 1: a villain that I'm super excited about. But I'm always
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: excited to see people play outside of their normal cast type.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: And I know that. I mean I would I would
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: pose it that robot Man is like an antihero. Sometimes
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: it is not a very good person. Sure, yeah, no,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: the entire group is filled with not very good people,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: but it's not outright villains, but very usually very very
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: very damaged literally in some cases people, Uh what you
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: know what, there's been a lot of superhero movies in
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: the last couple of decades, A lot of them superhero movies,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: superhero series, animated films, animated series, podcasts, all sorts of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: superhero material that has just flooded the mainstream culture. What
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: do you do if you are freaking tired of superheroes? Well,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Kevin Figy is that correct? Thank you? Listen. I can
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: never pronounce his name correctly, so I just do it
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: differently every time, Mr, Mr m Kevin mc u um.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I really need to learn how to pronounce his name.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: But anyhow, I'm so sorry. I appreciate all the work
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you do for m CO. I enjoy the m CU
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: has a plan um and that is too. It seems
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: like release less m c U material and space it
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: out more so each thing hits a little bit better
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: when you watch it. Because he also agrees that the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: market is kind of oversaturated. Yeah, I don't think that's
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: a bad plan. I don't think it's a bad plan either.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's necessary. I My own perspective on this
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: is that, uh, there's a double edged sword that everyone
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: acknowledges and that you really only appreciate once things get
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: to an oversaturated point, and that's Marvel's approach to have
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: like this incredible, um uh expanded universe that all ties
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: in with each other to some extent, with you know,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: some outliers like Agents of Shield kind of split off
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: from the m CU narrative. The Netflix Street Hero series
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: are kind of semi cannon to MCU, but not really
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: but still like to to have like everything that from
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: the middle of phase two moving forward being all incorporated
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and supporting one another. You start to fall into the
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: same traps that the comic books do, which is that
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: it gets so complex and things depend so much on
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: you having watched other stuff so that you will have
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: an understanding of what the heck is going on, and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the one thing you did want to watch that if
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: things start to if like the quality starts to dip
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: at all, then everybody suffers, right, because if every piece
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: is dependent upon every other piece, and you get a
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: string of pieces that are of middling to lower quality,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: you really run in danger of not just Superhero if
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: it's League, but specifically Marvel fatigue. Uh. You know, I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: would argue like the Eternals was a big miss. Ultimately,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: at least for me, the Eternals was a big miss.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Uh well, in Humans was was undeniably a miss, to
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the point where no one even talks about it. I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: think I think the Eternals was a big miss for
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: most people. Even the people I know who kind of
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it only kind of enjoyed it. Yeah, and then
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you know, you had things like like Spider Man, uh
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: no way Home. I thought was just okay. I know
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: some people really loved it. I did not love it.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was okay. Doctor Strange and the
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: Multiverse of Madness. I did not like. I felt like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: they did Wanda dirty in that movie. Um, and I
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: do not like how they handled Wanda in the film,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: and that ultimately it was a mess. I had entertaining
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: moments and I loved see things like I love seeing
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Read Richard's show up in in a Marvel movie for
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: all of like a minute. But but like, uh, you know,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: it's enough missteps where even like, even if everything were great,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I think people would be getting tired. But because not
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: everything has been great, it's making it worse. I agree,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: And I say this as someone who still loves superhero movies.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I will always love superhero movies. I do feel like
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: the last few from m m c U haven't been
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: as strong as they could have been or should have been. UM.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: And again, like I also say this as as an
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: actor who still wants to be cast as Ben Grimm
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: in the Fantastic Four movie, It's not gonna happen. You
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: don't sound like you grew up on Yancey Street. I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: could learn. Look, I have an accent class this evening.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Um not not for Ben Graham's accent, for a different one,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: but I could learn their plenty of people who learn accents.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: It took it took Nicole Kim in like two months
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to learn how to sound like Lucille Ball. I can
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: do it, um anyhow Uh. That being said, I do
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: think that UM taking some more time to make sure
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: that the stories are are more different and diverse and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: UM really something is a good choice. Also, much much
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: like the m c U maybe has run on a
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: little bit more than they should have, I feel like
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: we have to today well to be fair aerial, I
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: also have like about probably ten minutes of material that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: I have to cut from this episode, so it's not
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: quite as long as it appears on our on our recording,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's more like six but Okay, regardless. If
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: you want to say anything else about mc U Johnathan,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I was just gonna say that. I think,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: you know, focusing on things like making a diverse universe
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: is great. I think that making sure that the stories
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: being told serve the characters and the actors really well
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: is very important because otherwise you stand the risk of
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: being accused of, uh creating works with diversity just for
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the sake of having diversity, which ultimately is more harmful
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: than helpful. Do you want to make sure that the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: stories due service to both the characters and the people performing,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, it just it rings hollow and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: you want all those efforts to be sincere. So but
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: I think, I think it's a great goal to have.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I think being measured in the storytelling, making sure that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: each story has its own identity is really important. We've
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: taught in the past about how one of the big
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: problems of especially the first Marvel film, in a new
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Characters franchise typically is introduced character, introduced villain who has
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: variant of characters powers, have a c G I slug
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: fest at the end, and then repeat it happened in
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Iron Man, it happened in Aunt Man Happened Doctor Strange, like,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: we saw an over division as good as that show was,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: so like we've seen that story play out so many
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: times that it would be nice to kind of step
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: away from that. Also, I think, like Ariel and I
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: both feel that practical effects are always more compelling than
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: lots of an overreliance on c G. I know, obviously
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about meta humans with supermowers, there's a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: limit to what you can do then still make it
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: look really convincing. But the flip side of that is
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: you don't want the end of your movie to look
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: like it was the final boss fight in the PS
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: three game, right, And unfortunately a lot of superhero films,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: both Marvel and DC fall into that category. So I
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: think there are a lot of things they can do
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: they can help with this, and um also like addressing
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: some of these issues can help remove some of the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: criticisms that the superhero genre has received from other filmmakers,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, like a lot of filmmakers will
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: argue that a superhero movie is not a real film, right,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: that it's it's just it's just spectacle and there's nothing
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: to it, Like to give your characters a real emotional grounding,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: to tell stories that are worth telling, and to treat
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: superheroes the way that a lot of uh sociologists would
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: think of it as in this is this was largely
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: America's version of creating its own mythology. And if you
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: think of it as a mythology and try and tell
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: stories that fall into that sort of mindset, perhaps then
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: you can have some some really entertaining and moving and
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: valuable films as opposed to just we need to print
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: more money, so let's make another Avengers film. I agree that.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Being said, there's some em C M c U stuff
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: that I am very much looking forward to, like echo, Um,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the Marvels, you know. Yeah, I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: want to Sea again. Yeah. Um, I would be good
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: with the second to even season of Miss Marvel too. Um.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I've liked most of their TV stuff quite honestly, but
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: absence does make the heart grow fonder. So um, I
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: think we both agree this is a good move if
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: they can stick to it. Yes, I know that it's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: hard to do because Disney loves money a lot. I mean,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I know money is the root of all evil, but
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I can't like I like money too. Well, the love
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: of money is the root of all evil. Money itself
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: is not the root of all evil. It's the love
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: of money. Um. But just I want to get it
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: there before the comments get to me. Okay, but but
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: I also also like this is probably another way of
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: of hedging the fact that will probably get fewer series
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: meant for the streaming platform because as we know, as
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier today, streaming is really hard
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: to make work from a revenue perspective, and we're seeing
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: we're seeing streaming platforms across the entire industry cut back
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: on their expenses. If if it means less series that
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: hit me as poorly as the Book of bubble Foot did,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: then yeah, I'm happy for that. Okay. Well, now now
• 1:27:34
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