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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a
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  Speaker 1: guy who successfully had Michael Strahan going into space before
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  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian became a lawyer. J P. Jack. You heard
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  Speaker 1: it here first, it came true. Welcome in. It's Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. On a Monday afternoon busy program. As usual,
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  Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, joining us Pride of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli, will review Week fourteen
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  Speaker 1: Titans twenty Jaguars nothing. Urban Meyer taking some heat again
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  Speaker 1: after some weekend reports offense was shut out in the game,
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  Speaker 1: the defense fault the best they could. Draft talk begins.
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  Speaker 1: Because the Jaguars has been officially a Liven add from
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  Speaker 1: the postseason, social media questions will go around the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: In Week four, team Let's review the Titans over the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars twenty to nothing, the Jaguars second five game losing
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  Speaker 1: streak of the season. The jack shut out for the
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  Speaker 1: first time since two thousand nine, held under two hundred
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  Speaker 1: yards for the third time this season and now in
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  Speaker 1: back to back games, and the worst part of it
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  Speaker 1: a franchise record low eight rushing yards on a franchise
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  Speaker 1: record low eight rushing attempts, seven of those by running backs.
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  Speaker 1: This performance after the weekend report by Tom Pelli Sero
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  Speaker 1: of NFL Media of discontent and tension boiling over the coaches, players,
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  Speaker 1: and head coach Urban Meyer, and then Urban after the
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  Speaker 1: game on his conversations with owner Shot Khan and Urban's
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  Speaker 1: belief on getting this turned around, I assured him that
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  Speaker 1: we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that depends on Once again, I still think
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  Speaker 1: there's good pieces you watch, don't you watch out there
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  Speaker 1: today Miles Jack and that defense and some of those kids.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Roy smoot, I mean I was those guys are
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  Speaker 1: playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores
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  Speaker 1: on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the answer start leaking information or some nonsense. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again,
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  Speaker 1: I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No,
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  Speaker 1: let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a
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  Speaker 1: position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother
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  Speaker 1: said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy
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  Speaker 1: very little my time. And if if there is a source,
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  Speaker 1: that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds. If there's
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  Speaker 1: some source that's doing it, that's Urban Meyer yesterday, Tony
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  Speaker 1: Boselli and Pete Prisco with us now here on Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Good afternoon, Tony, good afternoon. Well there is
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  Speaker 1: a source, to be clear, I mean, let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I appreciate what Urban said, but Tom
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  Speaker 1: peal Sero is a national writer that's pretty well respected.
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  Speaker 1: And Jason Locha Ford, which I know everyone can't stand
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville best, but is also we're so Tom Pella
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  Speaker 1: Serlo with the NFL dot Com, Jason Loaf with CBS Sports,
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  Speaker 1: which is Pete's company, UM employer. Like, these are respectable
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  Speaker 1: guys that typically and I'll let Pete speak to this,
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  Speaker 1: don't report stuff unless they have confirmed sources in a building.
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  Speaker 1: So it's either coming from the building or it's coming
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  Speaker 1: through an agent that got it from their client in
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  Speaker 1: the building. So there's sources. I mean, there's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: now Urban has said the whole thing is not true
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  Speaker 1: about the Marvin Jones. He said that today again in
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  Speaker 1: his press conference. Um, and I'm not here to say
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  Speaker 1: who's right, who's wrong, who's telling the truth. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what's out there is and so
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  Speaker 1: he's denying it. Tom Pella Sero doubled down. The bottom
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  Speaker 1: line is this, in my opinion, like this thing is
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  Speaker 1: not working right now. I mean, you are. You're regressing
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  Speaker 1: as an offense, your first overall pick is regressing as
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  Speaker 1: a player. You have scored nine points a game since
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  Speaker 1: the Bay. You have talked about wanting to rush the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and you ran it eight times. They had six rushes
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  Speaker 1: JP and I don't because I heard Urban today and
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  Speaker 1: I disagree with them. Well, the game gets out of hand,
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  Speaker 1: No, no no, no, no, it was a ten nothing game
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter and you would
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  Speaker 1: run the ball six times. That doesn't line up. And so,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, those are the things that are going on.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all today. But it's uh, there's
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  Speaker 1: not a lot of happiness in Paradise right now. Pete Prisco,
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  Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What is up? Look, their journalists
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  Speaker 1: they don't make stuff up. They're not making it up. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I just happened to look back at
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  Speaker 1: a tweet in August and from the ten ten Excel account.
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  Speaker 1: I just found it. It said Pete Prisco is hearing
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  Speaker 1: players aren't thrilled with Urban Meyer. I mean that was
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago. I didn't make it up, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And to say that journalists or whoever make it up
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  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Your your reputation is on the line. There's
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  Speaker 1: stuff there. There's plenty of stuff. And I mentioned some
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  Speaker 1: of it on here. Okay. We we've mentioned plenty of
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  Speaker 1: it on here. I've mentioned plenty of it on CBS
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  Speaker 1: Sports HQ. Over the last four months, there have been instances,
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  Speaker 1: there have been issues, players griping, moaning grown it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's happened. For him to say he's not concerned about it, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he isn't. That's the same as Tom Coughlin used
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  Speaker 1: to say he wasn't concerned about any of it, and
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  Speaker 1: then he can complain about all of it. They of
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  Speaker 1: course they're concerned about it. Um, that's the way of life.
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  Speaker 1: It is. And I've had many of talk with coaches.
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  Speaker 1: I said this to him, I go, why would you
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  Speaker 1: care so much about it why, And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: it is, you know, their reputation. I get it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not made up. Let's be real, it's not made up.
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  Speaker 1: So how can you prove it's made up? You can't.
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  Speaker 1: If you go ask Marvin Jones if it's if he
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  Speaker 1: had that incident an issue with Urban, what's he gonna say? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I did, then Urban's lion. No, I didn't. Then Pallasaro
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  Speaker 1: like it looks bad. So I just I think there's
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  Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire, there's it's a situation in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: You can't deny that in Urban. If he was truthful,
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  Speaker 1: he would know that he knows that there's nothing warm
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  Speaker 1: and fuzzy with him and his coaches and his players.
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  Speaker 1: It just isn't now. Whether he can fix that, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, And whether Sean Khan wants him to fix it,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. Maybe he does, Maybe he thinks he
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  Speaker 1: can fix it, maybe he thinks he can change him.
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  Speaker 1: But like this much, I know Trevor Lawrence is rotting
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  Speaker 1: away before our eyes, and I think it's up to Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that I think which should be should happen.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Who is the franchise. He is the friend.
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  Speaker 1: It's not Urban Meyer, it's Trevor Lawrence. He's the franchise.
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  Speaker 1: And if there eroting his skills and letting all his
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  Speaker 1: talent rot away, then or then he needs to go
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  Speaker 1: to shot Khan and his agent. They need to go
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  Speaker 1: to shot Khan and they need to sit down and say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't working. If they want him out,
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  Speaker 1: then that's on them. We don't decide who gets fired.
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  Speaker 1: We don't. That's not our job. Our job is to
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  Speaker 1: evaluate it and on the outside looking in, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in every meeting, and neither is Tony or neither
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  Speaker 1: you j P. It's just not working. It's a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: There's no other way to describe it. And here's the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing about it. I've been around that team since
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  Speaker 1: nineteen nine or and even be even before that, when
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Weaver was the owner in Touchdown Jacksonville. I was
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  Speaker 1: the first guy was around those people all my life.
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  Speaker 1: I was around Tom Coughin day in and day out.
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  Speaker 1: He was an obsession of mine. And I've been around
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  Speaker 1: that building for a long time and I know that
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  Speaker 1: fan base and everybody mocks the fan base, which is
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  Speaker 1: a joke because there's a passionate fan base there, you know, nationally,
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  Speaker 1: Oh there's a who goes to their games. Let me,
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  Speaker 1: you guys know, and the generation that's now, they're now,
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  Speaker 1: they're die hard fans. They grew up with it. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't sleep and go to school when they lost the
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  Speaker 1: championship game in ninety nine. They're passionate as hell and
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  Speaker 1: they care. And I never have ever seen it this
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  Speaker 1: bad among the fan base ever, in the worst years
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  Speaker 1: they've ever had, It's never been this bad. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the problem because I think the tickets are not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get sold, and that's when you have a problem. They're
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  Speaker 1: the most distrusted I've ever seen him. And you guys
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  Speaker 1: live in town now. I don't, but I talked to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I read a lot of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and I hear a lot of things. This is the
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  Speaker 1: worst the fan base has ever been. And it's unfair
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  Speaker 1: to them because now there's a reputation out there, Oh well,
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  Speaker 1: they won't go buy tickets. It's a bad fan base. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not. It's a great fan base. It's a young
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  Speaker 1: fan base. The Foo Foo wanted cheese crowd that went
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  Speaker 1: in the nineties, they're gone. But now it's a diehard
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  Speaker 1: fan base and they need to be heard and if
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  Speaker 1: they want changes, I think that the people need to
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  Speaker 1: pay attention. That's Pete Prisco CBS Sports. Well, it's it's frustrating.
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  Speaker 1: It's frustrating for all sides. Absolutely frustrating as the frustrated
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  Speaker 1: and sure the coaches are frustrated, the players are frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Urban said something I agree with, like when
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  Speaker 1: you lose, it's it's it's maddening you put this much
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  Speaker 1: time and effort in Like he's right, but right now
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  Speaker 1: I tend to agree with Pete. Where they're smoked, there's fire.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of chirping going on,
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  Speaker 1: and there's some sources. There are there's somebody in the
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  Speaker 1: building that is feeding the It's probably more than one,
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  Speaker 1: because typically you're not going to write something that um
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  Speaker 1: explicit without confirment sources and what extent it happened to,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not here. I just know this.
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  Speaker 1: You are two and eleven. Your offense is atrocious. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: they scored zero. You have no no identity. I can't
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  Speaker 1: tell you what you're trying to do the fact that
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  Speaker 1: we ran the ball eight times last day yesterday is
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  Speaker 1: unacceptable in my opinion. It's unacceptable. You have a struggling quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: you have a offensive receiving corps that struggles to get
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  Speaker 1: open by themselves one on one or two. You're have
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  Speaker 1: an offensive line who's struggling in the passing game right now,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to run the ball. And they did not.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do it, they didn't try to do it.
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  Speaker 1: The run game is a is something that where you
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  Speaker 1: have to be committed to it and understand as long
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  Speaker 1: as you're within you know, shouting distance and ten nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You're in shouting distance in the middle of the third
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  Speaker 1: quarter because your defense is playing good football, like you
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  Speaker 1: can trust them, you have to be running it and
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  Speaker 1: you have to be okay with three yards, two yards
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  Speaker 1: maybe no game, Hey I'll bust a five, get an eight,
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  Speaker 1: like you have to keep going and you're like, it's
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  Speaker 1: okay to run on second and ten when your defense
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  Speaker 1: is playing the way they were. But having eight carries
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  Speaker 1: in a game that was ten nothing in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the third that's just not very good. It's not
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  Speaker 1: well thought out, and that's my struggle. That's where you
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  Speaker 1: start getting frustrated. And I think we're the fan base
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  Speaker 1: and you watched the game and I call the games.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing, what's the game plan,
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  Speaker 1: what's her identity? What are we trying to do to
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  Speaker 1: help six? And it's been this JP. I've been consistent
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  Speaker 1: with this from the first day when we threw it
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  Speaker 1: fifty one times against Houston. I thought it was absolutely
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous that your best player, James Robinson, and you're not
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  Speaker 1: feeding them and working through him. And they've yet to
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  Speaker 1: do it. And we went through the carries a couple
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. I don't think they have a great plan.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't know what they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to do. All right, here's a question for you both.
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  Speaker 1: Can they can urban and can the coaching staff and
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  Speaker 1: players pull something together in the final month. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen much of that lately. Honestly, there's no evidence that
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  Speaker 1: tells me they can when they can do it. There's
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  Speaker 1: no evidence. Offensively they're going back they've been, they're getting worse,
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  Speaker 1: and and the defense actually played well and hard on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a good sign. And here's the thing Pete, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I know what Joe Colin wants to do. Like this
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  Speaker 1: is who they are. They're gonna try to play good
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  Speaker 1: run defense. They're gonna blitz them you know what out
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  Speaker 1: of you, and they're gonna try to pressure the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: with more than four because they can't do it for consistently.
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  Speaker 1: So he's gonna come after you. He's gonna bring the
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  Speaker 1: Nickel blitz. He's gonna bring ras Shawn Jenkins down. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna come after it. He's are in Mike scrape with
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  Speaker 1: Will said, he's in a blitz, Miles. I mean he's
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  Speaker 1: coming at you like I know, and like he is.
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  Speaker 1: They've been consistently saying that all years. And are they perfect? No?
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  Speaker 1: But but are they are they like good enough? Like
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  Speaker 1: you give up twenty points in this league and you're
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  Speaker 1: getting up ten at the middle of the third quarter,
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  Speaker 1: you should be in it. And Urban said it, and
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  Speaker 1: I agree with Urban than that, And so at least
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  Speaker 1: I know what they're trying to do. And I think
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna keep on fighting. And I give Urban and
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  Speaker 1: his coaching staff because you have to give him credit
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna also criticize another areas they are playing
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  Speaker 1: hard on defense. Still they're they're attacking, they're trying things,
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  Speaker 1: and their special teams are good. They're atrocious an offense,
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  Speaker 1: they're atrocious, no other way to say. And here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing about about this whole thing. You know we're
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're not good. When you sit here and say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what are the solutions? Is it the change coordinators? Is
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  Speaker 1: the fire of the offensive staff as they get rid
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  Speaker 1: of this guy, get rid of that guy. Let's just say,
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  Speaker 1: for the stake of the argument, that urban Meyer came
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  Speaker 1: back for next year and the offensive staff didn't. That's
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  Speaker 1: gonna cost your boatload of money to replace that offensive staff.
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  Speaker 1: If those guys don't get jobs, you have to pay them.
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  Speaker 1: And then if they do get jobs, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to pay the offsets. So you're gonna cost it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: cost you a boatload of money to replace the type staff.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. Who's gonna want to come
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  Speaker 1: work there? Well that but Pete, that's a good one,
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  Speaker 1: and we I want to talk about that later, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: because you bring up a great point there, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off. And I can tell JP's
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  Speaker 1: look at the clock, and we're about yeah, he's looking
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  Speaker 1: at the clock time. Because like, let's just take what
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  Speaker 1: we've all the noise that's come out of here, and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, it's been coming out of here since October.
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  Speaker 1: If this isn't like all of a sudden breaking news,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you've heard the murmuring and the like questions
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  Speaker 1: and the controversy and national media get and let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you and Pete correct me if I'm wrong. The
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  Speaker 1: way national media gets the off is either a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with the coach, relationship with the players are direct from there,
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  Speaker 1: but more times than not, it's through the agents. Because
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  Speaker 1: the relationship to the agents the players of the coach
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  Speaker 1: and talk to the agents and they go the agents
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  Speaker 1: are going to the national media. My wrong, Pete, Well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time and you can get it from
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  Speaker 1: the agent. But you're right about what you said earlier.
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  Speaker 1: If if if Tom, Paula Sarah got it from an agent,
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  Speaker 1: then he could cross check it with another agent, if
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  Speaker 1: you have two or three and the agent says, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my guys, really frustrating there, this is what happened. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it happened. You got validation and you've got a story
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly where a lot of it comes from. But
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  Speaker 1: you're also hearing it from leaking inside. Look, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear the league. Look, but Pete, my point
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  Speaker 1: is that, and I want to I want to unpack
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  Speaker 1: this a little bit because I do what Pete saying.
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  Speaker 1: And again, who knows what's gonna happen. They have four
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  Speaker 1: games left. They got the Texans this week. We should
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  Speaker 1: talk about them, like like it feels low right now,
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  Speaker 1: you get swept by the Texans, will feel a whole
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  Speaker 1: new low here. Yeah it could. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's fast forward to the off season and if there
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  Speaker 1: is going to be if Urban Meyer makes wholesale changes
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  Speaker 1: because it's just not working well. Now you have a
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  Speaker 1: perception issue. And I talked to coaches around the league,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you Pete does too, is and they
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  Speaker 1: all talk that's a small community and like that, like
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  Speaker 1: that starts like a brush fryer starts, you know, burning
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  Speaker 1: is okay, Now Urban's gotta go get a brand new
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  Speaker 1: staff and where do they come from? And now now
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  Speaker 1: with that, he has relationships guy like Dan Bullen, and
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  Speaker 1: IM like I'm not and I'm not saying Dary Bellbs
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  Speaker 1: giving fired. I'm just saying, these are the things that
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  Speaker 1: all the noise, and then you get the free agencies
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to get to recruit guys to come. And
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  Speaker 1: so it's a lot why this is bad and why
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  Speaker 1: I hate this for the organization. And while this, you
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  Speaker 1: need to find a way to win. Like winning cures
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  Speaker 1: everything I said all the time. It's like a good
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  Speaker 1: gravy on a bad piece of meat makes everything better.
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  Speaker 1: Is you have to win because you've got to quiet
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  Speaker 1: this stuff down because it will carry into the off season.
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  Speaker 1: It will impact you for next year. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: let's take our first time out plenty on that ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco will have a chance, of course, to a
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  Speaker 1: jump in on that one. We'll talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more about the offense yesterday. The offensive line has some
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  Speaker 1: issues in past protection. Tony you said, do you think yeah,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: okay um. And then in the second hour we'll get
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: your social media questions. We'll go around the National Football League.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Plenty ahead, We're just getting started. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
• 17:37
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• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Give Up on the run of the road. Good questions,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Good questions when they were gonna answered, Oh, I would
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: say we probably did. What happens, you get down a
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: little bit, you get frustrated, and you're you know, there's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a play caller, you get stuck in second or fourteen
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: second and ten eight carries for the serio yard or whatever,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: eight yards or something like that. So but we we
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: have to establish the orders going on ten one now,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: so you know there's still you still run them all
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that one can sure. That's head coach Urban Meyer today
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: afternoon after it's twenty to nothing lost to the Tennessee
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Titans for the Jaguars in Week fourteen. The Jags are
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: now two and eleven and on their second five game
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: losing skin of the season. J P. Shadrick Tony Bisselli
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida, reacting
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to the game and everything around it. And there there
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you have the answer on the running game, Tony, that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you've brought up a moment ago. Eight carries, eight yards,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: seven carries by running back. He really didn't, he really
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: didn't answer. It was that Gary Smith. That Gary Smith. Yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't flippidly say how about a good answer,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even answer the question. That's the part of that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: What bothers me about that is there's no passion back.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: If you would asked Tom calf In that question the
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: exact same situation, Oh my god, the reaction you would
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: have got from that, it's just okay, fine, good. I mean, Joe,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: show me something, you know that's I want to see
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: some burning passion for the game. It's so it's like
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: when he walked off the field Sunday, what was that
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: he looked lost? That was a powerful handshake with Mike Rabel.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, he would have thought they were They
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: never each other before. I met the man for fifteen minutes,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: and I got a better handshake than that. Give me
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a break. I just maybe that's what I want to
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: see more of it. At least show me some care.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I want to passion. Get angry at somebody in that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: press conference, because clearly they were trying to was that
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: today that happened today? Right? They were trying to get
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a rise out of him. It's almost like I've seen
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: this playoff before. By the way, there's a wounded animal
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: and the vultures starts circling if the animal isn't wounded.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: The vultures don't circle unless you're a true vulture, then
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you eat anything. But you see, don't you see that happening.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: That's like it's like a it's like the vultures are
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: starting to circle now. But part of the problem is
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Pete is and for whatever reason, and maybe this is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the advice the Urbans getting. He does not give clear
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: concise answers. They're vague there I don't know, there a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to ask an assistant coach, which we then find out
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that might not be the truth, that it might have
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: been his decision. I mean, based on the reports, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: so I think you're seeing the media basically saying I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: think fans and in general people are saying, wait a second,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like we want a straight answer, because I think that's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: been part of the problem is and maybe that's the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: advice he's getting. I don't know Urban Meyer. I've literally
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: had two conversations with the man. I didn't follow him
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: closely outside of knowing he was super successful um at
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: arb At, uh at Ohio State and uh Florida obviously,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: But I mean I've never watched press conference before maybe
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this is his style, maybe this is what he's been
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: told to do, but it's not building confidence. And I
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: think you're seeing people like wait a second, no, no, no,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like hey, wait, what's the answer. It's like today talking
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about young players and guys getting more playing time. The
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: questions about Cisco, Yes, and the question is like why
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: isn't he playing more? In Urbans, it is always doing better.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: We're getting it more time. Yeah, we're getting it more involved. Well,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: he had zero snaps on defense. It's not consistent. He
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: had special teams. That's right, No, absolutely, but the question
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: defense and the question but the question was in Urban
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: said he's doing a great job on special teams and
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: everyone said, yes, that's great. He had to punch out
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the fumble. They didn't get called doing a great job.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. The question follow up questions like when's he
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: gonna get on what about defense? Well, we're getting it
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: more involved. He's been more involved. So that's my point
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: is saying this is a lot of this is you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: build confidence, and like you can, may give you an
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: analogy because it's the best way I can do on
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the Just coming off the top of my head is
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget when I was a player, and you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Kevin Gobrye was our offense coring there and then Mike
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Masor was the UH was our offensive line coach. And
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they'd always say, until you answer the question on the tape,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they're gonna keep on asking. And what they'd say is like, okay,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: if you have to play a bear front, which is
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: a defensive front war the center and the two guards
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: are covered up, it's a heavy stop to run. And
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: they say, if you don't have an answer, then you're
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: gonna keep on seeing it over and over again. If
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you get the Mike sam Blitz and you don't have
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: an answer for it on film as an offense, they're
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gonna keep on going at you and going at you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: because that's it. And I like sometimes is like you
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: don't get clear answers or they're a little bit you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have questions about them, And I think that's what you're seeing, Pete.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: To your point, you're used the vulture analogy, like people
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: are like, no, no, we want to know, like and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that until we get clear and concise, I think that's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: where we're gonna go down. But the scariest thing about
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it is what if he doesn't know the answers. Well,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that's all another issue, Pete. If that's the fact, I'm
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: giving him the benefit of doubt that he knows the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: answer and he just doesn't want to answer it, that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the scary part if he doesn't know the answer. One
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: thing he said yesterday, he never had to deal with
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: this before the leaks or whatever, because he let me
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: tell you something, there's a big difference between covering college
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: football covering the NFL, and I know I've done both.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It's a it's a different animal. It's entire and particularly
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: at Ohio State, where everything's great, you're winning. At Florida,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: where everything's great, you're winning, it's a different, different animal.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You're dealing with sheltered college kids who get very little
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: access and very little that you know. You don't deal
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: with the agent and everything else. Well, here you're dealing
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: with players who are men. A you want to be
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: treated like men, and B you have agents like Tony
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: talked about, you have periphery people that are involved, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: there's more. You're gonna get stuff out. That's why you've
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: never had to deal with this. How many guys carvered
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Ohio State on a daily basis day in and day out.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: One two maybe be guys and nationally, yeah, they were
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a big program, but there's so any of them that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you don't necessarily focus in on that one. And so
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: now in the NFL is like thirty two national writers.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: There's a ton of them National you know, TV people everywhere,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, and there's more people around
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in the city that are there every day, so you're
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: dealing with that constantly. It is a different thing, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I've covered both of them, Tony, it's entirely different. But Pete,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't you think it's like some of the problem is
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes not just giving clear, concise answers like this is
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: what we're doing, is where we're going. It's my decision,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like what I'm the James Robinson, my decision not to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: play or I'm not getting to it. It's a coach's decision.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: That's why, Like one thing about Tom would answer them,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: would answer the question as as maniacal as he was,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: he would answer the question, no, no, we didn't go there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: But this is the reason why we didn't think we
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: could run the ball. We didn't want to run the ball.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It was our prode. We came in with a plan
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball next time, We're gonna run the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: ball better. Boom and the story. You got your answer
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and you moved on. So I think that's part of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so until I walked down the hall with him and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: grated him the entire time, of course you didn't, Pete.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, like like just as a test case, like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: putting you in the press conference, like rewinding the tape,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of like letting Pete to tend the press conference and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: ask questions. Is the beat writer. I don't think anyone
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: know what. I never liked. I never liked asking him
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: in that setting because then those guys always got my
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: material on TV before I could get into paper the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: next day. Remember, So I'd wait and walk down the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: hallway with Tom stop and talk to him and asking
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: my questions, let him scream and yell at me for
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, and then I got my story because I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: didn't want to ask the questions, so everybody else had them.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So I didn't ask him in that You're you're sneaky Pete.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You are sneaky, sneaky Pete. That's good, that's good, peat guy,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: sneak Pete. I like I like that. Last week it
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was Flipper, snee Flipper. We keep adding names up for Pete.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Let's come back in the moment. We're gonna here from
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the four interception game yesterday,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball played. Okay, we'll get to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that coming up. Draft talk we'll commence tonight the Jaguars
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: have been officially eliminated from the playoffs, and then the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: second hour, your social media questions and much more. It
• 27:18
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• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We had a couple of couple
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of calls that killed some momentum. Have to look at up.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they were bad calls, but just you
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: look at it. You know, we had a big play
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and there's a whole wink call brings it back. So
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta be more, you know, we gotta
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: be better with penalties, like we've said earlier in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: year as well, and then for me, I just gotta
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: finish better. We're gonna keep playing. Like I said, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: felt really good at being of the game. I thought
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: we were doing a good job taking with the defense
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: has given us. I felt like we were on all
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: of our assignments, and I just got away from us
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in the end. And I didn't think we played, um
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a full game at all. Obviously you can tell that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But um, we gotta help our defense. You know, they
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: kept us in the game, gave us plenty of chances
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and didn't We didn't do anything with it. So that's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. After the game in Nashville. He was twenty
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: four or forty passing two d twenty one yards, a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: career high, four interceptions, thirty five and a half rating.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Ran the ball once for two yards. That's what of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the rushing yards for the Jags yesterday. It's a good job,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: thank you, matth Um. So there you go. Fourteen picks
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: for the season. Trevor Lawrence struggle yesterday. Now you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: he also said that, you know, a couple of tip balls,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: should not should have made the catch on one, two
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: or just kind of bad decisions and you know, so
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a mixed bag in the interceptions department yesterday.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: They all count on his ledger though, welcome back. It's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Seaguars Happy hour. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: recapping a twenty to nothing loss. They need to score.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Like I and I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: get what Trevor is saying, and I can't even magine,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the difficult how difficult this is for him,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: first of all, pick all the pressure, wanting it to
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: be good, wanting to be the guy, wanting to come
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to this organization to change things in it being worse
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: than ever. That's that's not easy, and I feel for him.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: But the reality is, even at the beginning, it wasn't good.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: We're moving the ball. With four minutes left in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: first half, he had thirty three net yards. It was
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it was never good. Like I heard her would say, well,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: they were weird fishing and passing the game. What does that?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? When you don't score points and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you have thirty three net yards? Nothing is good. It
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't good, like there was nothing good. And I watched
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: it today on tape and it was it was awful.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: It's nothing good. These guys don't get open. The offensive
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: line was awful and detection at times. Andrew doing well.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks has been can never to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: stop testing me and tweeting me about the offensive line.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Like somehow I've like defended this group all year I said,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: they've been I said, and people backed me up on this.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: The first half of the year. They weren't the problem.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: They played solid football. They're running the ball. James Robinson
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: was averaging five yards of carry before Seattle. They were
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: low stack toll. They weren't. Jay rob got hurt, like
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the whole things fell apart. Might go to my point
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: of saying he was your best player, that you should
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: have featured him more. And the offensive line now is
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: playing poorly this week. Both guards no good. Last week,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: both guards no good. Showan Taylor inconsistent all year, not
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: good this week. Shatley was fine and Cam Robinson has
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: been the best offensive linemen on the team this year.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So everyone on Twitter leave me alone. Yeah, and they
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: got to think about the right tackle position play water.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: What does it hurt at this point, like I've been
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: against it. What about by the way I brought that up,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you are going I got thrown to the wolf and
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I shut you down. I'm at the point now like
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: how like now, find out if he can do it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Find out if he can do it. If you can't
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: do it, then you have then you know you got
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of positions, Like now you're fixing let's just
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: be clear offensively, gotta fix for wide receiver, yeah, gotta
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: fix tight end. Yeah Okay, Well, like, what's you're rolling
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: with Dan Arnold again? If he's healthy? Okay, let's get
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that one. Fine. You gotta fix the offensive line? Sure,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: what do you do it? Running back? See who's healthy
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: next year? There's e t n ready to roll. My
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: point is like, and wait, you know the offensive line
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: is made up five people. You have to make a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: decision on Cam Robinson. You have to make a decision
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: on your left guard, which I can't imagine. Way he's
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: been playing, they're gonna bring him back. You gotta make
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: a decision for Brandon Linder, who has been hurt all year.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: The last couple of years, he's been struggling to healthy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Think he's missed forty games in his career somewhere around that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And I hate it because I love I mean, I'm
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a big brand, wonder a guy, and you got what
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: do you do with a j can He's been out
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: all year, basically was not playing great before you got hurt,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: had a very good year last year. Your right tackle
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: is struggling like no one's business. Like you like find
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: out if Walker Little can do something, so you have
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: you can check the box at one place. You're not
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: fixing everything, yeah, because you only because remember that, like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we were talking about this last year, you only can
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: fix so many things each year. Well, things that you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: thought were okay, remember Urban and Trent Bak he told us,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: and Obviouslyason, oh I love her offensive line. We have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a good, strong group. They brought him all back. Okay,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Well that's not playing out right now the way any
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of us thought. And so now you add that to
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the list. So you gotta start checking things off the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: list and find out if guys could play. Can Walker
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Little play at this level? Let's go find out Ken
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: will Richardson play, if he plays some more? Can he
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: play somewhere at least we've seen him in games, right,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But look the way Andrew Normal was playing. He ain't
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: coming back next year. So put somebody else in there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Why Pete and you know me, I'm not one of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: these like but at this point, I it's hard to argue.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So I was, So I was right. You weren't two
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: weeks ago? You are? You can you can say it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you're you are? Now you have do they have any
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: any backups? Besides okay we walk a little Richardson and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Shatley's in there is there's nobody else right A J.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Cannons And I are you have McDermott, Casey McDermott, who's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the backup center with Linda out? Like No, it's not
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like it's a lot of depth that you're talking about.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Nobody has that. Nobody has no I know that, But
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it's not like you have a bunch of young guys
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you've been developing. That's why I'm like, you gotta go
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: find out what Walker little is. Like I'm at the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: point is, look at the Green Bay pack Look at
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers up. They're on their third tackle,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: they're on they have a rookie right guard. They last
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: night they're starting right tackle who's a converted guard went
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: out and they had to put it back up in
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: there and they're in their backup center. They just keep winning.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: May granted they have Aaron Rodgers and I'm not let
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: me give you a couple of games figure out a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: way at times to I don't think anyways getting better
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: on that offensive line. Let me I went through this
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the other day with somebody who has gotten better on
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the offense in the last six weeks, who has improved?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Anybody name one? Got one for me, Tony JK got one. Treadwell,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: fred Well has played better. Okay, I like it. You
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: got one, ding ding ding, That's all I got. You
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: just asked for one. Yeah, you gave you gave me one,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and I'll give it to you. Because he actually, at
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: times it looks like an NFL receive or should be
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: a complimentary player on the offense. Maybe, but that's it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: The back hasn't gotten better. He's because they don't use him,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and he's been heard quarterbacks gotten worse. The line has
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: gotten worse. The receivers are no better. I mean, every
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: time Chanak goes in motion, they're gonna throw a screen
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: behind a lot of scrimmage and ask the two receivers
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to block. It's just it's maddening to watch, demanding office
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to watch. I'm at the point now, place Cisco, put
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: him in there, start them. Fine, if you can play
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: all the all the young guns are getting in the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: well like this. What's his name, Jordan Smith? I don't
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: even know whose name has never been around, Like get
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: him up. What do you have to like, what is
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like is this what is Jason giving you? What is
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: John Warden? I know he had a good game whatever
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: last week? What like what are you getting find out?
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Like are you building this in around John ward And
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like the lord is the free agents? Okay, great, let's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: get Jordan Smith. Can he rush the pastor because we
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't rush the pastor very well? And you know it's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a outside of d want Smoot is our best defensive
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: player's consent. Every week. You know, he's gonna have a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: few tackles, probably a sack. He's gonna press with the quarterback.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: He's yeah, good, like good. But my point is put
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Jordan Smith out there. What other rookies we have to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to j um j to Philly. He got his opportunity
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: last week. It was not great. It's really about it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I mean to fill a Jordan Smith, Cisco, Tyson Campbell,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: start with Walker, little Jordan Smith and Cisco let's go
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: or put Jordan Smith out on third down whatever, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: why not, I'm there, I've given up. Hey, let's uh,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: we'll take another time out. We'll come back a little
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: defensive talk and dig into their day as a whole
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: yesterday Second Hour, We're gonna keep it real. Who at
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: some point in the second were not keeping it real? Now, Oh,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: it's real. It's it's been kept real for a long
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: time around here. So when we keep it real, though,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk draft because the Jaguars have been eliminated
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: from postseason contention. Of course, your social media questions plenty ahead, Veterans,
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• 37:36
  Speaker 1: kind of hard findal worry. But it's not like I'm
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: little sitting to give up. You know. My main thing
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: is I've been a leader dying. You know, we've gotta
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: keep fighting. It doesn't matter the outcome circumstances. You got said,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the main thing you coming back. We're not gonna lay
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: down for nobody. Um So I bet to be drawn board,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, each week, and you know, we gotta figure
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: out something, how to get better at something. So that's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the part we're gonna figure out. I gonna take you
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours figure out what happened? Like us when
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: you got and make some some arrangement, make this stuff work,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: get this stuff clicking, and get us going so we
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: don't figure it out. That's Shakuille Griffin, Jaguar's cornerback yesterday
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in Nashville after Jaguars lost to the Titans twenty nothing,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the final score. First shutout lost for the Jags since
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: two thousand nine when they lost forty one nothing at Seattle.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. J P, Shadrick, Pete, Prisco,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Tony wassellly and you know, the defense. We'll get back
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to the offense a little later. There's plenty of time
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: for that. Of course. The defense yesterday allowed two hundred
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: sixty three yards to the Titans. That's the second best
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: day of the season for the Jaguars defense as a
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: whole in total areage allowed UM. And then after the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: interceptions from Trevor Lawrence those change possessions, they allowed twenty
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: one yards and three points after those interceptions. So they
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: did what they could do. They just didn't have a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: lot of help from it. I mean, then he couldn't
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: go off the field. I mean, the flip side of
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: it is they had trouble getting off the field the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: first three drives. There were some long drives, long drives.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: They didn't force a pun they gave up a touchdown,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: missfield goal in a field role, ten plays, nine plays,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: fift plays respective, that's part of your job too. You
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: have to give your offense. You gotta get some three
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and ounce up your offense out um. But overall, yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: it's ten nothing middle of the third. Let's go do
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: something right, right, So, I mean Peter was the second
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: best day by yardage. I mean, they're they're doing what
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: they can on defense. No, they actually played well in defense,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and and you know, look, they playing hard. They're not
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the greatest in terms of talent, they do play hard.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: And I think Joe Cohen's done a good job compensating
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: for the lack of talent. I think that he just
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: pure talent. He has to go win. I mean there's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: another side of the ball. Who's playing well on that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. In that smoot we talked about,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that is one again. Yeah, I think Dwan smooth plays.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: He's another one that plays hard and tough and physical.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: He's starting every week. Yeah, yeah, I think if you need,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you could start him at one end. If you had
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the elite dominant edge Russia at the other end. Yeah,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Josh disappeared the last three weeks and I don't know
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: where he report. He was on the injury report last week.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I know that shoulder. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you know that's started to become a problem too if
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: he's on the injury because he was on the injury report,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: he's been injured a bunch. No, but he's playing. If
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you go play, you gotta produce. If you want to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be the guy, you gotta go sack the quarterback like
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Carold I mean, is he as good as Harold Andry
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the past should be. He's not. Right now, Carol and
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: has eleven sacks. I think us Miles Jack is Miles Jack.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He didn't play that well on Sunday. I didn't think
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: he was Okay, he was fine. Damian Wilson was good.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Wilson had ten tackles in a sack. Roy Robertson Harris
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: or or Roy roberts either one. Both are good. Robertson
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Harris he had four tackles in a sack and two
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: quarterback hits um sorry, Sekille Griffin played well. Ray Shan Jenkins.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I thought played well. Um, they were physical. Yeah, they played.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I mean they did a good job. I think uh
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: von hell Hamilton after getting I think he got benched,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: No real report. He wasn't active last week. He was better.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: He still gets pushed around a little bit. Um. It's
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: about wingered. Everybody's all over wingered. Stupid penalty. You can't
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: hit the quarterback in the head, and you can't. Everyone
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: knows you can't go dive it offensive lineman's legs as
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: they're trying to block you. You can't do it. Don't
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: do it. Stupid. Um. And and is that where Cisco
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: goes in, Yeah, that's where I put him. I would
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: start next week, Raid, start Ray Shon Jenkins in Cisco
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: in the secondary, and I would start I would start walking.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I'd start Walker little at right tackle. If you don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: want to start right tackle, guess what, Walker, you're starting
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a left guard. Like I'm putting you on the field.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: You gotta go play. I picked you in the second round.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I gotta know if you can count on you to
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: be a starter next year. I'm playing at that that draft.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: That draft needs to get guys on the field. I mean,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: out of that draft. There's two guys playing. That's it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Quarterback number one overall and Tyson Campbell that's it. No,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta you can't blame matt On. You can't blame
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that on the previous regime. So that's what I'm doing.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, defensively give Joe cole credit. I mean, first
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: year coordinator, tough situation. You see some growing pains of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: getting guys on the field at times, but you know
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: he keeps on working at that. I like Joe, I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: root for Joe's a friend, um, and I think you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: like it was ugly at early, it was not good,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: but they've gotten better, and you know that's all you
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: can ask Like if like, if you just told me
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the offense is getting better too, Okay, Like I actually
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: could live with if you're like two and eleven, if
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you like you're progressing, like there's so. I think one
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: of the big issues that this for franchise has, this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: organization has is I think people have lost hope. I ain't.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: The fans right now are like, what do I have
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: forged next year? I can't even talk about draft anymore.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I was all excited about Urban and and Trevor, it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: worse now than it was last year, and so you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: lose hope, and that's what we You can't have happened.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: That's why they have to win this week. They gotta
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: go beat the Texans. Are you gonna lock it? No,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't do that to the team. My
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: locks have been terrible this year. But I mean, listen,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the Texans have a workie quarterback, Davis Mills. He's play,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: he played, He's played better than the rockie quarterback in Jacksonville.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: They got a bunch of they got a bunch of
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: different pieces and parts and stuff, and guys hurt. So like,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you gotta go beat those guys. You have to because
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you want a new low. No, I don't you want
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: a new low. No, I don't go losing the Texas
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is I'm no, thanks, We can't. Can't lose them home game,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: defend the bank, locked down the bank, lock it down.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: All that you have to You gotta win the game.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Got to score well. And here's the thing. They're scoring
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: nine points a game. Now here's mr By. It's only
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: under fourtun seas. The good news is we're averaging thirteen
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: point eight thirteen point eight points a game. But that's
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: point two more points In the Houston Texas they're only
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: at thirteen point six. I said, we just go with
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: the stats, win the game, move on analytics. Analytics, they
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: don't lie. Like the under, what's gonna be a low
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a low score a gay. I've never
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: been an over under, but if I was setting the line,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I put it in like twenty one, no six? What
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: does that even mean? Whatever? What's what's the low line?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: What's the lower over under? In high thirties? Is a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: low over under? Oh gosh, they're not getting high thirties.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: That means it's like, you know, sixteen to fourteen. Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: it's thirty, I go thirty. You know, it's still when
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you look back on it, in the last month and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a half of the season's still amazing. At the Pubblo
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Bills scored lost nine six, nine to six, and the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and the Jags had to Trevor had a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: good day in London, but they had to kick those
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: fifty plus yard field goals to win. I mean, yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, That's how You've won two close ones,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like really close ones. You haven't lost any close ones,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: haven't not really they had lee to other times but
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: there was nothing like in the fourth quarter, world like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you gave up a game when he drives biting our fingernails. Hey,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. Uh. The second hour
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour, we'll hit the top news oh
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the day. We'll keep it real with draft talk. We'll
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: get your social questions go around the league planning ahead.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: This Jaguars Happy Hour presented by je Home Loans on
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Good Today, Tom Paul Sarah publicly
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: doubled down to what he said that he insisted at
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: all the things that he wrote in his mind, according
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to his sources, absolutely happened. So you have these two
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: diametrically opposed and sorry, down it. I had a heated
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: argument with yeah, yeah, it didn't happen. I got little
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: we gotta be law like heart. Marvin's text number or
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: inappropriate name that is urban Meyer today and welcome back.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour our number two. What a show
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it's been so far. One hour to go. Well, the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are trying to recover from a twenty nothing lost
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to the Titans. Urban Meyer taking heat again after that
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Saturday NFL media report of tenship between coaches, players, and Urban,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: including an alleged shouting incident with Marvin Jones Jr. Calling
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: assistant coaches losers. Urban denies each of those, by the way,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and then the game came along. Well, let me get
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: through the open here. The game came along after that.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Twenty nothing the final score the Jags second five game
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: losing streak of the season. Now, the Jags shut out
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand nine, held under
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: two hundred guards for the third time this season and
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: now and back to back games, and a franchise record
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: low eight rushing yards on a franchise record low eight
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: rushing attempts, penalties all day long. The defense did fight,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: but they were on the field a lot up. Next
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the battle of two and eleven teams in Week fifteen,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans got
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: them in Week one, and they've gotten the last seven straight.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: In fact, Houston's won seven in a row in the
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: series and eighteen of the last twenty four against the Jacks. Yes,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: first of all, like this is the same stories last week.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: The Titans have beat us every year since. I think
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I just like got the same rundown script and like
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: just changed the name. I'm sorry I started giggling. But
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: when you said the meeting where erber Meyer was calling
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: coaches losers, which he denied. To be clear, he denied,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I would have paid money if that actually, if that really,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: if it happened. Let's let's assume Tom Palastrow's sources tell
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: the truth. Whatever. I would love to be in that meeting,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: because you know many times I was called a loser
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and bad names by coaches. It's an offensive, lineman. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: would have paid money to be in the rumor it's going.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I used to picture all the coaches around He's like,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: you're a loser, because it's a little bit of what
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: it was like at times as a player. Because Arvid's
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: delone coach he said, guess what it all? It all
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: rolls downhill, and you know what the all is. It's
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: something stinky and you don't want on you. But Pete,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: that just makes me laugh. Can you imagine the head
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: coach walking around the staff going, you're a loser. Your
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: resume stinks and you you stink and just would be beautiful. Well,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: isn't that the same staff that he said? Um? He hired.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: It was the best of the best. To be clear,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: he's saying he never said that to them. He's saying
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Tom Palasero's report is not accurate. You guys said pellasar
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: double down? Where did he double down on radio in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville to day? He was on tinte XL earlier today. Okay, alright,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: he doubled down, so he said it happened that. Look,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it probably did happen. You wouldn't report that if it
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: didn't happen. And and look, the only way to see
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it's like the old days. You can't go in the
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: locker room anymore. If the locker room was open, you'd
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: go Smart Jones face to face. Did you imagine we're
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: talking about that during the break that's closed now and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: there's only a mixed media zone you can get select players,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: and only tiered individuals can do that, so they all
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and only in group setting. So he's not you know,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: in the old days, he used to be able to
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: go in there and you'd go over to a player
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and you know, hey, what's going on again? The you
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: know you're not playing real well and he's not playing you.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: You're mad? Yeah, man, Okay, I got a story. You know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: he can't do that anymore because, hey, the guy's not
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: going to answer that question in a group setting. He's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you anything in a group setting.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: And look, I guarantee you if that happened, there's four
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: or five other players that saw it or know about it.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And so if you're covering the team, you could go
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: in there and ask them, here's what you these. Let's
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: just cut to the chase. Make Bernie Parmarily and and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Marvin Jones available to the media. Mark get it over
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: with the order told last week that Parmaly was gonna
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: be available this coming week, So is he going to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: be I'm just saying, like at some point just like
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: get it over with. Like I'm so like where I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: agree with Urbans, like we need to move beyond this,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Like it's time to move on. But as long as
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I think it's like
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: there's a credibility because right now it's a credibility issue
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: from the standpoint of it's the national media's word against
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: your word. The only way to like solve it, and
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: it's terrible because you put your assistant coach in a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: bad place and you put the player in a bad place.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: But but that's what you did, and that's what it is.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: They're all we're all adults just rolling out of the media.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Get it over with. Well, what is Barba Jones gonna say? Well,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: but Pete, at least they'll be over Here's the other
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: thing about Margaret Jones and doored years with the lot, right,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: And there was this one. You didn't hear anything like
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: this about Marvin Jones, didn't He was with the Bengals
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: before that, with the Lions, a ten year pro now, yeah,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and if it didn't happen, why would someone pick up
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Marvin Jones as the person saying that I don't know,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I just like rollout. There's Look, but I've heard of
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: other ones too, that there's been other players that I've
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: had issues with him. Let's let's not sugarcoat the thing.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: But my point is this is the problem. Tom had issues,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Tony Thomas issues with every player. Sure, here's the other side.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Does care everybody have to be happy all the time?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: That's my point? Who cares? I got in a shouting match,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: had to be separated from Kevin Gilbride in Mike and
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I had plenty shouting matches at each other in disagreement practice.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: What did you do wrong, Tony? What did you do wrong? Kevin?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It was Kevin's vault. He lost them. I love Kevin
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Gilbright too. I tell him, like he knows that, Kevin.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: But Kevin had a he had a short temper once
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: a while, and I remember, yeah, short temper, great football coach,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: great dude. Love Kevin, and he uh and he like
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I like it only happened a few times during the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: whole season, but he would just all of a sudden
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: snap and lose it on guys and like just lose it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Like I can't even repeat what we said on the radio.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: And I would never do that because I and that
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: just what happened. And I remember like sitting there going,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: if he ever does that to me, I'm not like,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And so we run the like we've
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: lost like six in a row. It's miserable, Like everyone's tight,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: it's tense, and we run a slip screen sixties slip
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: screen left. And it's a difficult play for the tackle
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: because you have to it's timing and like you have
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: to read it up to the make sure you go
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: up to the alley inside up alley outside and anyways,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: and I guess he didn't like how I did it.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: And before I can turn around and get back to
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the huddle, he is in my grill, like just undressing me.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: That's why I said, I'd love to see if if
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: that did happen where urban was undressing the coaches, I'd
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: be I'd be great. I'd love to sit there and
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: have popcorn watch. But he was undressing me, just going
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: at it, and I was like, and I lost it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I snapped and I went after him and we had
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: to be separated because Kevin is the type of dude
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: like I would have whipped I would have I would
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: have whipped his rear end. But Kevin wasn't gonna let
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: him back down, and so he was coming like we're
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: being pulled apart, chaos on the field. Guess what. Afterwards,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I went to his office and coach, you're the coach
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: on the player in my bad he said. We talked
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: to him, Mike masor I would have given you a beat.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Mike made the late Mike Major and I Tom and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I had words like like he was because you get
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: he did like your competitors, not because I disrespec were
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: he disrespected, like you're mad things aren't going well. You
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: are going you can ask or you could ask for
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: us to be respected. And here's the thing. Here's the thing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin's first couple of years on the Virgin going rotten.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: You're going rot. And so it got salvaged and he
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: did a lot of he did some self reflection and
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: inner we started helping you. You aren't change at all, Pete.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: He was the same guy. We won and guys like winning.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: And he was a good guess what. And he was
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: a good coach. He was organized, he was detailed. I'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: not and this is I'm not even say anything about
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Urban right now. I'm just saying what Tom was. He
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: was miserable. He was he was. He whipped the crap
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: out of us daily. We started winning. Winning fixes everything
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and here and I want to go back to like
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I like, here's the big thing. I don't get, like
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: all the smoke and all the noise coming out like
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: it's a lot. The least of my worries is a
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: coach and a player going at it, Like here's the answer.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Let's say it did happen. Urbans just said, yeah, we
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: had a disagreement. We handled it provably. I'm not going
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to discuss it with you. Okay, it's over. Marvin called
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Marvin here, Marvin, Yeah, we had a coach coach and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: we discussed like men were good. Okay, big deal. Who
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: can like okay publicly have going here. It's saying after
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: all these years that you you guys weren't happy that
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he called out Brunelle after the interception after the in
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: the Titans game and embarrassed him and that ended up
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: being a rift between the two of them. I'm not
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: gonna get into that. Still under the bridge, Tony, come on.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: My point is this, it's it's not like the Marvin
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Jones or it's not the James right, it's not these one.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: It's almost how we were the response to them, like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: if you guess what, you're the head coach. If you
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: wanted to bench James Robinson because he fumbled, then bencham.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: You're the head coach, Bill Belijack does it all the time,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: but then you gotta bench Carl's high too. You don't
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: get it both ways, and you don't. I don't think
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: you're gonna go tell the media it's will go after
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: go after running back coach because I don't know. And
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: then the report is it was your decision like those
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: are like things you just like, I don't know what
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: we're hiding from. Just call it as it is. Yeah,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I benched him. I guess what if you fumbling out
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: with a bench again, Pete, you asked the question a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: moment ago. We didn't get your answers about Urban. What
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: was it? Is it fixable? Is his handling of this
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: team fixable? Can he change who he is a little bit?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it is. And look, I
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: can tell stories about Tom back in the day, and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you know when I wrote a bunch of them about
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: how he was. He was a dictator and drove people crazy.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Two years ago, three years ago, I wrote a column,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: big story on what went on after two thousand and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: seventeen with that team. Remember all the crap that went
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: on with that team. So crap happens on all teams,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and you know this, Tony, every single one of them
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: has stuff going on, and you're right, it's how does
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the head coach handle it? And he does not do
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: a great job of handling it. Yeah, I benched him,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: sit him down, Like you said, I sat him down
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and needed to be benched. Why aren't we running the ball.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. But I'm gonna get to the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: heart of it. I want to run the ball more.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: We will run the ball more. But you don't get
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: to say that we're not gonna get to it. I'm
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the head coach. You're right, I need to fix it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: It's not good enough. Like here's the thing, Like, just
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: like you are the head coach, like you are the leader.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Not only are you the head coach, you run the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: entire building. You have final say on anything that happens
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: in this building about football. You can't get up there
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and say I don't know, or blame somebody else or
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: this person. You gotta say I own it, and you
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: know what way? And you fumble, you don't play, you
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: know you do this, you don't play. I might. Here's
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: my expectations. Like I don't need to hear, and I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: don't think people like I think it's losing. It's like
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: losing a little bit. Like I don't care. I don't
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: care how much you like a guy, how he's a
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: great guy, he's a great competitor. No one cares, No
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: one cares, No one cares, So they have has finals
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: say on personnel decisions. He has final say on the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: roster decisions. He has finals. Say everything, doesn't play he
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: has finals, say on everything. He has finals, say on radio,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: has finals. JP's career has finals. That's a lot of
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: pressure on that one. No, but you know what I'm saying,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not even trying to. I'm not trying
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: to take a Pete laugh again. By the way, I'm not.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: This isn't a shot at Erman like. It's answering your question.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: It's to your question. Can he fix it? Not the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: way you're going right now. I don't think you can.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: You want to, I'll give you. And we used Tom
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Coughlin here a lot. I happened to love the man
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: in respect him. Do I agree with everything he did?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Not even close have him and I have it our
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: run ins, absolutely, But I think like Tom Coughlin, successful
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: NFL head coach, he is good and he's good what
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: he does. I don't have to agree with everything he did,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: and that's not my job. I was a player when
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: he went to New York and you know this beat.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: He had a revolt going on, and he if he
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: didn't change they working, he wouldn't have two Super Bowl rings,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: and he adjusted his approach because the veteran team, he
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: had guys like stray Hand and Tiki Barbor and like
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: who he was and what they were trying do. He
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: adjusted and that is well, Chronicles, I'm not telling anything
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: that's like breaking news, and so can urban fix it?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: You better take its a You better start looking in
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the mirror and start with you and what do you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: need to do because what is ever is going on
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: right now is not working, and I hope he can
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: fix it. I don't like, like, I don't think firing
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: a guy after one year is good. I mean, do
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you hear all this chatter fire herban, get rid of herban,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah whatever, like that's not good for
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: any organization. It's not good for good for the Arizona.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: It was good for the Arizona Cardinals, what's happened here once,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: But it's not good for any organization. It was damn
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: good for the Arizona Cardinal. But Peach, you know what
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Overall, I'm with you. I normally would never
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I agree with you. Let it play out.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: And so my point is saying that I asked Hayes
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Carline this the other day and I was on with them.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I said, normally, have you gone to any of the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Monday and Wednesday press conferences and come away because wins
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and losses, Yeah, that's the most important thing. But in
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the first year you kind of get the benefit of depth.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: You come away from Monday or Wednesday press conferences with
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Urban taking He's got it down, he's he's he's answered
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: my questions, he's telling me about football. He's got it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: all down. Yeah, it'll work out in the long run.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And Hayes answered me honestly said no, not once. And
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I think if you asked all the media, all the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: media guys that question, they'd answer it the exact same way.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: My point. But that's my point, Pete, I'm going back Kenny,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: fix it. I hope so. I hope so, because two
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: and eleven not very good. You're one in fifteen last
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: year and the way it's going right now. I don't
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: know what the line is. I don't gamble and I know,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: but you know what's the line on the gates. But
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are picking the I mean,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: it's a coin for the best us to get to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Houston Texas who have this man little her entire roster
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: and spent nothing in free agent for the most part,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: very little rebuild scrap. I get the Jets after that.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: You better, like my point is saying this, you gotta
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: like this is going on track. Is a worst season
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: than you were last year when you looking expectations everything.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: So I hope he can figure it out. Pete, what's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: up real quick before I gotta get a break. But
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: I happen to see this tweet today. This was from Dent. Dent,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I saw it when I looked up something. If they
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: don't win a division in two years, then something is wrong.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Chris go on Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer. That was that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: was in January last year when I knew Trevor Larns
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: was coming. Well, something seems to be wrong because they
• 1:03:53
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• 1:04:17
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  Speaker 1: eliminated from the postseason. The Jaguars Draft talk will commence tonight.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: You're on Jaguars Love It, I Love It. Draft order
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: as it sits today. Number one would be the Detroit
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Lions at one eleven and one. The Jaguars would be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: number two. They have the same exact record and strength
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: of schedule is Houston at the moment, but the division
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: record is the next tiebreaker down. That's why the Texans
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: have the better division record their third Jaguars currently our
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: second in the draft, and then there's four straight New
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: York teams that would pick after that evidence today there's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a dozen of course in today, there are four weeks
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: left in the season. Okay, so the Giants have five
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: and six and the Jets at four because they both
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: had trades earlier. So those where the Bears and the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are. And the Eagles have three picks too. Yeah,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: they start with the tenth right now, and they've got
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: two others later in the first round. So all right,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? Draft? This is this? It is
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: this is the draft topic. Keep it real here. Let's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: just say, let's say, what are we doing. I don't
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: know what we're doing? Okay, are keeping it real? There's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: a draft or what do you want? No? No, no,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go through. Let's just say, in this scenario
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that the Lions take Aidan Hutchinson, the local kid from
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Michigan first overall. I wanted Aiden Hutchinson. Well you're not
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: getting them, keep losing them. But here's the Lions have
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: left to play. Where's Arizona. They're not winning at Atlanta,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: probably not winning, at Seattle, probably not winning, and then
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: home against Green Bay. So they're gonna have the first
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: overall pick. It looks like, oh I think they can
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: beat Seattle. See they can beat Seattle. In Seattle. Seattle
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: is no good and then they gotta hope like Green
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Bay isn't playing for anything in the final week of
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the season. But in all likelihood, the Jabra is gonna
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: be picking second. So if they're picking because we beat
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: this week, you just said they're not going to I
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: never said that. I said if they don't be dark, Okay, fine,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I'll lock it. They're gonna beat Wow. He just we're
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: gonna come off to Jack and we'll score some points
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and win. They're gonna it's gonna Let me tell you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the score of the game. I can't wait to hear.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: This should be the final score. Thirteen point eight to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: thirteen point six. Jain. Okay, So say Hutchinson goes first
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: overall to the Lions, then one number. Do you have
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the number two pick? Where you take? What? What do
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you take it? Tone you're taking a there's an elite
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: pass rusher in Oregon, although some people question that, Um,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: do you take a wide receiver there? I think it's
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: way high for wide receiver. I'm not taking I'm not
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: taking receiver to overall. You don't need a quarterback, so
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: you take the pass rusher from Oregon. In this scenario. Now,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: if you can't play him not taking him, well, he
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: can't play. I think he's pretty good. He just but
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: then is he deaf? Is he Dion Jordan's No. If
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: he's that and it's the second pick, them all pretty good.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Like if it's the second pick, he better. In fact,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: there's some people still think you might go first. Okay,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: who's like, what are the like? I don't even know
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: who the top five players are in the draft. What
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: about the big offensive tackle from Alabama? Evan Neil's name
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: Evan Neil? Then you got the corner from LSU Stingley
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Stingley last year. You can have a receiver involved, and uh,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: you could get value by trading in a way, getting
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: more picks because somebody wants a quarterback. Is there anyone
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: who wants to trade up with me? Because I want
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: to trade back to like five, six, seven and get
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a receiver with extra picks. H with the Giants to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: be able to pack. Do they want a new quarterback?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Are they done with him? What quarterback? Who's trade up
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: for any quarterback in this draft? Anyway? Nobody is? Nobody
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: is and that's the problem. So it's pass rusher, corner,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: trade down and take a speed receiver. But we know
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: what they need. It's not hard to figure out. But
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: they do need They ne need an offensive tackle, don't they.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Do they need an officsive tackle
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: after drafting one at the top of the second round
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: last year? Yes? Answer, Well, I don't know. That's why
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you got to play Walker little the last four weeks.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Tony, I agree with because nothing against
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: you want Taylor. Well, I guess it is against him
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: because what I've seen the last two years, I've not
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: seen a guy get better. I've seen a guy get
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: worse than inconsistent. Yeah, and it's not a guy that
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: leads you to optimism for next year. So yeah, play
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Walker Little, Play Walker little. Then we'll get into draft talk.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Great draft talk, that crazy. Now we're gonna have we
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: got we got tons of draft talk. There's gonna be
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: so much draft talk. Why do you hate it so much?
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: It's a reality, you gotta I've done no work to
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: figure out who is even available. Well, I mean that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: this was the deal. When the Jaguars are efficient eliminated,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the draft talk begins, and that's what we've done tonight.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, you need a receiver, You need someone who
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: can play like and here's the word. I mean you
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: know this, Pete. The word is now that Tampa's gonna
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: offer whatever it takes a kip, keep Chris Godwin or
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: franchise him. Correct, Davante Adams isn't going anywhere Chris Godwin.
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  Speaker 1: So that leaves you a pool of guys like Mike Williams,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Alan Robinson, um, those kind of players that that doesn't
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: make you that much better. And I don't think you
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: overpay those guys. Mhm. Yeah, So you have to draft
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: not just one receiver, Tony, you have to draft like
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: two or three. Well, this goes back to last year.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you be like, you know, I hate doing
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: this because we're keeping it real. So we're keeping it real,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: just keeping it like et N maybe is a great player,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: he's been hurt. So this is no like judgment on E.
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  Speaker 1: T N. I just wouldn't have picked it back there.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Like how about getting Friarmouth the tight end for Pittsburgh.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Watched him all year at that position to gets a playmaker.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: How about going and getting you know, the little slot
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: receiver that Arizona got out of Purdue or the little
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: slot out of you like out of old miss. How
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: about someone can run? Why like a playmaker in the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: passing game? You get a quarterback? Uh, it's just curious
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to me. Like how because now we're starting you want
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you want my draft, you want me keeping a real
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: draft talk. I'm frustrate because you need like fifteen positions.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: You don't have enough picks because what have you fixed
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: in here? Get a quarterback and you know you have
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: a corner I like, I like Tyson camp I think
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good player. But what else do
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: you have? What did you fix? Nothing? Well, I don't know.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. What didn't see You haven't seen
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of those guys out there. But E T.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: N was picked because they didn't like James Robinson. Period.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: That's the end of that story. It's it's it's hard
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: to argue that right now. That was Keeping it Real
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• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: what's keeping it real? Have you seen some of the
• 1:12:21
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• 1:12:24
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• 1:12:28
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• 1:12:41
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• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: is Happy. What are you laughing at, Tony? But your
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: microphone is on. We're on the air. Sorry this picture,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I'll send it your way. I don't want to get
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: into it. It's just that's great. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Our social media questions coming up? What are you? What
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: is this? What is this? It's like trying. Okay, that's enough.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I saw that. Yes, that's great, thank you. This is
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: awful radio we put out. We put out the bat
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: signal every Monday. This has been our most responsive Monday.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: I must say, I'm just guessing. I all the statue
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: of the analytics to back that up, but um, you know,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: it feels like it and let's get to it. Social
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  Speaker 1: media question number one, at least the ones that can
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: make the air at Matthew lock eight, can you draw
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: similarities to that of the fins and flores the bills
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  Speaker 1: and McDermott. The Bengals and Stacy franchise has had major
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: issues at the start. Stuck to the course and now
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: performing that's fair Bills, the Bills McDermot did not. They
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: made the playoffs for first year from the mistake and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: they actually lost to the Jaguars here ten three his
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: first year, so that was not really that many issues.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Finns Flores started terrible, ended up closing out the season
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  Speaker 1: on a high note because they got better each week.
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  Speaker 1: Not the same story here, um Stacy and question mark Bengals. Um,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: they were terrible and yeah, I guess that would be
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: the one that you could say was like really really
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: bad and then they got better this year after the
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: year two of the with the quarterback. But even last
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt. Last year quarterback got hurt. Remember last
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: year they were bad, but they were scoring points, throwing
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: the ball over the field. The movement that wasn't like this,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: like they were losing games because they couldn't protect the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback is getting killed. But they know it all. They
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of offense. Bet if I'm not mistaken, well,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: and you know you mentioned the Bills and McDermott and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: the interesting thing about that is Josh Allen threw ten
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: touchdown passes and twelve picks that for first year he
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: was bad. He was BADFS No, he didn't. Mc dermott
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  Speaker 1: went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and then they
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: and then they then they went and made the pick
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  Speaker 1: and drafted Josh out went backwards a year but played
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: good deeper they were still in games, and then third
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: year back in the playoffs. So it just doesn't. It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It has no feel of that. No, no, none, so no,
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  Speaker 1: so none of the above. Maybe Bengals a little bit pizza. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting you down for no pete. Question number two
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: at nine oh four and more, why didn't the Jags
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: utilize the waiver wire during the season. I'm guessing this
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: is in reference to Cunningham this week, who was waived
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the Texans. The Titans ended up claiming him. I think
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Jack Hunningham is a good football player, but he was
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: also guaranteed ten half million dollars next year that you'd
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: be on the hook for, so you better that is
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: he worth? Is he worth that? No Leading tackler in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: the league last year. I'm just telling you why they
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: didn't do it. The question was why they didn't do it,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: and that's why, all right, if you want to be
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: on the hook for ten a half million for Zach
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Cunningham next year. Question number three social media at stut Winters.
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  Speaker 1: I'm demoralized, frustrated, and at an all time low as
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: a fan. Can you give me any reason, any at
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: all to believe in this team next year? And note
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: the British spelling of demoralized with an S. He's from London.
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  Speaker 1: I got nothing off the top of my head right now.
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  Speaker 1: My only, my only hope for next year. That's next year.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing right now that gives you confidence
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  Speaker 1: that things are gonna be like rosy. Now with that,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you get through, get through the season, like figure out
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: what happens, like get this losing behind you, and I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: think you'll start feeling hopeful again as we get towards
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: free agency. They have a good cap, you know, hopefully,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Trevor, second year player, it's a big job.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: So that I like, I just contradicted myself. I sip,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: I flipped, call me flipper, clipper, flipper, flipper, I'm flipper
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  Speaker 1: this week. Um, there is things to hope for a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: good cap you have a young quarterback. Um oh, I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: still believe in those are the two things. Cap room,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: young quarterback. They did so they did a wonderful job
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: with that cap room they had last That's where I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: started with no hope. I was trying to give hope.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: So if I go down that path, hope take take
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  Speaker 1: the cap back because they had a lot of cap
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: room last year, they did nothing with it. Um So
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  Speaker 1: that's not a plus. The plus is the quarterback if
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: you don't ruin him, and the ruining him. You know.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Tony before I talked to him,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and we were talking about is this David Carr? And
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: the answer to that question is no. And the reason
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: it's no is because Trevor Lawrence stands in there and
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: takes him beating and just gets back up and goes
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: back and he plays the next play. He's a tough guy.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: And as a defensive rusher, if I saw that that long,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: that long quarterback standing in the pocket with a big
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: target like that, I'd want to blast them too. And
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: and he takes a ton of hits and he just
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: keeps getting up and you gotta admit there's times when
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: he takes those shots and you go, this might be
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: the one. But he keeps getting up and that's a
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: great sign. He's not I think his fundamentals are waning.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I think his eye level has come down because of
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: the shots. I think he's sped up a little bit
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: because of being hit, and he doesn't trust his receivers,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: which has led to all kinds problems for him. He
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: got fooled on the one interception. Let's be real, they
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: dropped out the end. He didn't see him. Rookie got
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: fooled the deep throw that he was picked. That was
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: a terrible throw, terrible decision. He had Marvin Jones on
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the other side. He didn't even look over there. And
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: so there's there's different types of interceptions. Some of them
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: were rookie throws, some of them are just trying to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: make him play. But through it all, he just keeps
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: getting right back up and going up there and taking
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: those shots. And that's the best sign of all for him,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and that should give the jah War's hope. Question number
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: four social media on fire today at Devil x Jaguar,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Please someone explain while we run the ball six times
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  Speaker 1: in the game, we were in until about the fourth
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: quarter Why does this team hate Robinson? What do they
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: see and hide? This feels like a nightmare. We have
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: never woke up from wow intense well I addressed, I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: don't I don't have an answer for you. Behind is
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: in can Cushing protocol? By the way, is um? I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: have no for you. I don't know if Urban hates
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: James Robinson or not. Don't have any perspective on that.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I have not asked urban Meyer about that. I don't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: understand why they don't run him more um as of late.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: If it's because of injury, great, Um, then why are
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: you playing him wait in the game when he's injured? Yeah,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: that excuse goes out the window. So I don't buy
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: that one. Um. But I don't know why, how why
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: you don't run the ball? I have no idea. I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: can't answer. It makes no sense to me. Like this
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: is like we heard him answered earlier, and I don't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: buy it. Like it's tend evidence, it's not out of hand,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: it's nothing. The evidence is there that they don't like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: James Robinson. Look, if you were in a court of
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: law and you had to convict somebody of not liking
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: James Robinson, they'd be guilty period. There's too much evidence there. Wow.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Let me tell you. If if
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: you're committed to the run it, you've run thirty plays,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: it's ten nothing. You're losing. You've thrown it, you've dropped
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: back the past twenty four times, you've handed it off
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: six times. That's eight split. Your run pass ratio is
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: you you're telling me you're committed. You're telling me because
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the game got a hand. I don't buy it. That's
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: not true. That's just not the facts. Like I don't
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: care what it said. It's what I watch and what
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I see and what I call. That's not the fact
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: is you aren't committed to the run. You're not, and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: that's okay. The game they were committed to the run
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: the last time they played Tennessee. Yeah they ran the ball,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: well they did. How many rushers do they have that game?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: A lot? I mean J rob went over a hundred
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: yards of that game. Absolutely, dude. Let's see J Robin
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: that game had had uh eighteen carries a hundred forty
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: nine yards. Trevor had seven carries, Hi'd had five, Agnew
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: had one, So thirteen thirty one. How you should be
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: another social media question from Twitter today, what a place
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: at rate us under score Joe Hanson Happy birthday for yesterday, JP.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you thanks for a great commentary yesterday, Tony, You're welcome.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: With very little to be gained winning again this season,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: why aren't we maximizing the playing time for our rookies
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: to help their development for next season? Hashtag duvall. I
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: don't see Pete on that question anywhere, Tony, because what
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: did you do yesterday? JP? I worked here, I mean
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: for you. So he's thanking you for a birthday present
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: for you working on a Sunday. I just said a
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: happy birthday. Okay, That's all he said. Was that was it?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't your birthday? Right? Yeah? It was? It was. Yeah,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Well we didn't know that. I did already wish happy birthday.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Pete. I'm not like Pete. You know.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I know my co workers and when their birthdays I
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: called them wishing happy birthday. Good job, Pete, very nice.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: So what do you is that the right age? No?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Actually forty the Big four oh yesterday? Wow? JP's forty YEP,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: and Basella you're gonna be fifty soon, right, I'll be
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: fifty next day April, Pete. Wow, so you're gonna go
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: into hall as a fifty year old? Not there yet,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: but hopefully maybe a fifty year old. I like it.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that'd be good. I think we have one more
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: social media QUI, well, we answered the rest of that
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: earlier tonight. The rookies playing and all that Cisco and
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: all that at M camp zero one four? Who are
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: we taking in the draft? What are the chances of
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: landing up? Playmate? You're in free agency? Hashtag go Jagsny?
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Who are you taking in the d I don't know.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: You love the drunk care right now? Um? Well, what
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: playmakers out there? It's gonna be a free agent. I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: don't know yet. Chris Godwin, he's not Pete. We'll just
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: talked about that. Mike Williams he's okay, you can't run.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: He's big, he runs better than that Allen Robbinson does. Yeah,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. Maybe Mike Williams. Maybe, I don't know. Well,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: I gotta draft. You gotta draft that speed. That Spete
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: needs to be drafted. And Rod Dalmore and Elijah Morea
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: say hello from last year? How are they doing? Pete? Um?
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: I just watched the Rams on Rams Cardinals game on
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: tape from the first time around. Boy, they got creative
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: with Ron dal Moore, all those Jets sweeps and runs
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: and everything else. How about good night, and I know
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: we'll get to Monday Night football jps will read no
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey to night yea cod covid. Yeah that's that's
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: a blow for them. Yeah big um. We'll come back. Hey,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: thanks for all the social media submissions. We can only
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: get to six tonight. And if you want to read
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: the rest, go check out Twitter and hit any of
• 1:25:21
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• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: We're back in a moment. We'll go around the NFL
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: and here's some radio calls from week number fourteen. It's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour Monday afternoon. J P Shadrick Tony was
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Sally Pete Prisco after a Jaguars lost to the Tennessee
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Titans in Week fourteen, twenty nil. Jaguars ran for eight
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: yards in the game yesterday. We have covered that. Let's
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and here's some radio
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: calls from some of the games on the league Thursday,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: the Vikings over the Steelers thirty six to twenty eight. Tony,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: you were at that game right Thursday night football. It was.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: It was a crazy game. Yeah, it was all over
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: the place, like the Steelers were getting killed. They couldn't
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: tackle Dalvin Cook and he was on pace for like
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the league record at one in one game um. He
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: was averaging at one point eighteen eighteen yards and carry um.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, like midway through the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: third quarter, the Vikings can't help twenty nine nothing, can't
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: help themselves, start throwing interceptions and turn it over and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: it comes Pittsburgh had had the chance to tie it
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: up at the end. What were they doing? What were
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: they doing? Her Cousins had that glazed look on his
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: face until he had that shot to oz Osborne down
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the field. You did that game, Tony, Yeah? Did you
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: see Keenan? How didin't go on the field beforehand with
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: all the COVID part Yeah? Yeah. Halkins over the Panthers
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: yesterday one the Browns over the Ravens. Miles Garrett with
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: a fumble return touchdown. Jim Donovan on the Cleveland Browns
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Radio Network. Three receivers near side to the left. Brown
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: comes out near side to the left. He's the widest
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: one out wide to the right. In the backfield, it's
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Habeas Murray. Huckley takes the shotgun staff back to pass.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Let's the ball got stripped away. Hit in the air
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: of the bronze fight for the ball and it's picked
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: up by Biles Garrett. He's got a score. Touchdown. Rolling
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: on the field is a thumb will recovered by the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: deepends cuts down Miles Garrett hit the ball, it burned
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: it around, he picked it up and then he ran
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: the last fifteen yards, went it for a touchdown. Have
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: the Bronze League twenty three to three? Want to play
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Pete Garrett the best defensive player in the league this year?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: For you. He's been phenomenal. He's in the conversation, no
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: doubt about it. What one quick thing about a game
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  Speaker 1: down nine with eight and a half minutes to go
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  Speaker 1: in the game, John Harbor went for two. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: making a seven point games, so you know what you need.
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  Speaker 1: That's when they analytics say, it's like, if you miss it,
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  Speaker 1: you're still doing two scores, right, I know, But if
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  Speaker 1: you do that, I think it's been tried like eleven
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  Speaker 1: times in the last decade or something, and you know
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  Speaker 1: how many teams have won doing that one. It's stupid.
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  Speaker 1: You're missing my point. I'm just telling you what I
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  Speaker 1: didn't say. I agree with it. I would I would
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  Speaker 1: kick the extra point and be down eight, know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to win at the end. The
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  Speaker 1: whole idea of knowing what you gotta get, well, who can't.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference? You know what you you're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to get that two point at some point, but why
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  Speaker 1: not keep it so you can get it later in
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  Speaker 1: the game and have a chance to win it. Keep
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  Speaker 1: it turned out, by the way, as it turned out,
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  Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown and kicked the extra point. Have
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  Speaker 1: they kicked the extra point, they would have been had
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to go for two, and or if they
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  Speaker 1: got the two when they did it, they could extra
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  Speaker 1: point with the time it the bottom line, here's the
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  Speaker 1: thing where your argument falls apart. Pete. Either way you
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  Speaker 1: need a two point conversion. So what does it matter
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  Speaker 1: if you do a way or after later? It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't get it, you're done, You're down to
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  Speaker 1: you're down nine. No you're not done. They start a
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  Speaker 1: chance with the onside kick. My point is if you
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  Speaker 1: don't get if you have a chance, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: get the boy play then to Pete. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: get the two point at the end, you start to
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  Speaker 1: kick down inside, you're missing them. Just the math part
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  Speaker 1: of it, just math. No, I get the math part.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. You got to get a two pointers sooner
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  Speaker 1: or later. Like I know, I get that. As a journalist.
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  Speaker 1: You don't do a lot of math, a lot of writing.
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  Speaker 1: I know the math. I know the math and that
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  Speaker 1: By the way, all the data says going for two
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  Speaker 1: down by nine is not right, that's not true. The
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  Speaker 1: analytics say, do it. It gives you a better chance
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  Speaker 1: of winning. I just explained to it's happened. What the
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  Speaker 1: data says. Look at the analytics. I'm not listen. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the algorithm to draw it up for you.
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  Speaker 1: Right now. That's what it's at. I was told there
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  Speaker 1: would be no math, uh in this Listening to the
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks hard headed Seahawks over the Texans were shot Penny
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  Speaker 1: a forty seven yard touchdown run for the Hawks. Steve
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  Speaker 1: Rabel of Seahawks Broadcasting with a call second down and
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  Speaker 1: seven run by Penny left side, breaks one tackle first down.
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  Speaker 1: He has gone ten five touchdown Seahawks. Ras Shot Penny
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  Speaker 1: breaks in at the line of scrimmage and takes off
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  Speaker 1: for forty seven yards. There's a hundred plus day for
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, a hundred thirty seven yards for just Rashad Penny.
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  Speaker 1: Neither one of these teams had a great record of
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  Speaker 1: course coming in. Seahawks are now five and eight, and
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  Speaker 1: have they kind of figured some things out or they
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  Speaker 1: just playing a bad team yesterday, pet oh, they were
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  Speaker 1: playing a bad team. But they want a couple of
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  Speaker 1: a row and they still have hope. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: gotta win out basically to get in. But but they're
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  Speaker 1: playing bad. Russell Wilson is playing better that since Pete
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  Speaker 1: Carroll stormed off the podium, since his finger got better.
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  Speaker 1: That's basically what it is. Is that that helps also
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Raiders. Big about the Raiders dancing on
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  Speaker 1: the arrowhead logo in the middle of the field for
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  Speaker 1: the game, and you can say, and got way, got
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  Speaker 1: him going, and then they promptly gave up forty eight
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  Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Mistake. Does that matter? No, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a bad bad it's a bad look. It's a bad look,
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  Speaker 1: but had no impact in the game. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: might have given up forty eight anyway. So the chief
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs still haven't look great on offense yet think
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  Speaker 1: about that they scored forty eight a great on offense.
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  Speaker 1: He but just playing fantastic like a defensive score early
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  Speaker 1: in the game. Saints over the Jets thirty to nine yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys against Washington a fumble return touchdown
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  Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys defense Brad sham on one of
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  Speaker 1: last three the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network
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  Speaker 1: to Washington late first quarter at their own empty gun
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  Speaker 1: for Heineck, fourth and two back to throw rushing sack
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  Speaker 1: back Parsons to fumble out recovered by Dallas. They'll run
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  Speaker 1: it down the sideline Churnstrong dances in. There will be
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  Speaker 1: a Dallas touchdown that made an eight team nothing. Dallas
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  Speaker 1: goes on to win. Yeah, and that's the end of
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  Speaker 1: the division. That that division is over. Cowboys are in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. And and I'm gonna say this about the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys front man. They get DeMarcus Lawrence back. Randy Gregory
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  Speaker 1: is now back Neville. Gallimore's back in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: that line. He had a sack, and they can move
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  Speaker 1: Parsons all over the place. They're gonna be a handful
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  Speaker 1: for profitsive lines in the postseason. I agree. Broncos over
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  Speaker 1: the Lions thirty eight to ten, Chargers over the Giants
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven. Want to throw by her Bert on that
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  Speaker 1: touchdown pass like sixty in the airs. That throw is
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  Speaker 1: the one. Those are the ones that should be made
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  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville every once in a while. Over the Bengals. Three.
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  Speaker 1: The Buccaneers against the Bills, a wild game in Tampa,
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  Speaker 1: the game winning overtime touchdown Jane dicker Off on the
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  Speaker 1: Bucketeers Radio Network. Godwin wide to the left, Evans wide
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  Speaker 1: to the right, shotgun look with four net on the
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  Speaker 1: right hip of Brady. Here's the snap pressure coming from
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  Speaker 1: the outside. Brady throw pot ball first out of the
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  Speaker 1: fifty outside the number sporting tell the thirty yard line.
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  Speaker 1: Parraman pushhot Parraman touchdown, Tampa Bay Fox running overtime Paramon
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  Speaker 1: Paramon Parraman, wild one in Tampa. They're good, Pete, they're running,
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  Speaker 1: They're getting you know, this is what they did last year.
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  Speaker 1: Down the stretch, start playing really good football. And the
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  Speaker 1: question now is the Bills are sitting in the seventh
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  Speaker 1: spot for the play house right now. If it ended today,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills make the playoffs. Yeah. Their schedule is easy.
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  Speaker 1: They got New England and three Winnie winnable games at home, Jets, Falcons, Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: They're in. And one quick thing about Perriman. He was
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  Speaker 1: out there available and he can run the Packers over
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  Speaker 1: the Bears last night to thirty thank you piece Monday
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  Speaker 1: Night football. It's a huge game in the NFC West.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald no, Jaylon Ramsey. Tonight though and
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  Speaker 1: the eight and for Los Angeles. Rams was at Kyler
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  Speaker 1: Murray and the ten and two Arizona Cardinals. Second meeting
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  Speaker 1: of the year. The Cardinals won it back in Week four.
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  Speaker 1: Who you got tonight, ton I think the Cardinals laying
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  Speaker 1: on them. I think the Cardinals are better. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals are better too. I think they win that game.
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  Speaker 1: And look, the Cardinals don't get any respect. Their their
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  Speaker 1: third and scoring differential, fourth and total offense and fourth
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  Speaker 1: the total defense, and nobody believes in them. Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: got ten wins. Wow, I need to beat the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I think the Rams will
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  Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but I don't think they're gonna make
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  Speaker 1: any noise in the playoffs. All right, but you know
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, and I think this is still right. Peat
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  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. We're JP. Maybe. No, the
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  Speaker 1: Rams have not beaten a team with a winning record
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  Speaker 1: this year. Well they beat the box Box. Sorry, maybe
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  Speaker 1: one team with about this Matt staffords and seventeen against
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  Speaker 1: teams five games above his career. Wow. Wow, Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: the old Kirk Cousins thing, like he had issues with
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  Speaker 1: teams winning. Yeah. Hey, Pete, fun show today. We'll talk
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  Speaker 1: to you next week. You gotta see you guys. I
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  Speaker 1: had fun. You didn't have fun, Tony, I had fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to do this after a win. Thought, let's
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  Speaker 1: get some ws for sure. Pete Briscoe, Tony Biselli, our
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  Speaker 1: entire crew, Brent Reaber, Joe Fortunado, I'm J. P. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. Thanks for listening. It's
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