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The Motorsport Brief | James Allen on the Red Bull rebuild & Oscar’s summer musings. · Rusty's Garage

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  A listener production.
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  Welcome to the Motorsport Brief, a mid-season F1 report.
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  Is the biggest story of the year so far over or is there more to come?
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  Hi everyone, Rusty here back in the garage.
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  In the wake of Christian Horner's shock sacking from Red Bull Racing, the drive to survive producers must be frothing.
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  Some have wondered if this has been coming for a while.
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  Will it be enough to keep Max Verstappen?
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  And can the team get back to the kind of dizzy heights of the Vettel era and add to what Max has achieved this decade?
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  Shortly to former F1 lead commentator James Allen, who's
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  Feature ep you can find in our library, what it was like working alongside the legendary Murray Walker back in the day, and a whole lot more.
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  He's very articulate, James, as you'll hear.
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  It's a great story.
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  For something completely different, check out our recent feature releases with Aussie sprint car legend Brooke Tattnall, growing up with his famous racing father, George, getting a break in the US and how tough that was.
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  being his own identity, plus the next gen. That's right, the third generation Tattnall chasing the Speedway dream.
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  You might also like to hear from the new promoter of the Australian Rally Championship, Adrian Coppin, growing up around events, setting up bunting in the backyard as a youngster.
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  Sorry, mate, that is a true story.
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  To his own domestic and international drives, bringing future WRC stars down under to compete, working in key operational roles at Rally Australia, Motorsport Australia and SRO in this part of the world, plus his plans for the future of the ARC.
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  Now to our guest for this ep of the shorty.
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  James Allen and I worked together for years on the 10 coverage of the Australian Grand Prix at Albert Park.
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  He is incredibly well respected in the F1 paddock.
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  These days, he's the president of Autosport Business and F1 at the Motorsport Network.
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  They are go-to trusted news sites for anything on the sport.
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  He also hosts the excellent James Allen on F1 Pod, which you can check out when you're finished with this episode.
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  Hello, mate.
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  Thank you very much for coming back on.
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  Rusty, it's great to see you.
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  Now that the week has sort of passed, that the dust is kind of settling a little bit, are we any clearer on why Christian was shown the door?
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  I mean, intense political pressure perhaps from Team Verstappen.
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  Was it purely the drop in performance, the prospect of losing Max if it triggered an escape clause?
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  What do you reckon?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, it's a very good question.
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  And obviously, in terms of actual announcements and formal kind of acknowledgements, there is nothing.
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  My understanding from conversations is that it's a combination of all of those things.
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  The performance clearly is the first and foremost thing in Formula One.
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  Over 20 years, Christian had built a world-class outfit.
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  in Milton Keynes, which is about an hour north of London.
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  They'd also recently expanded into building engines as well, which is always a bit of an Achilles heel of Red Bull over the years.
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  They were always reliant on if they didn't have a works engine, it made them vulnerable to competition against Ferrari and Mercedes.
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  So they took the bullet, made the massive investment in the engine division.
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  That's a little bit behind, as you would expect, when we're talking about the 2026 engines.
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  But more importantly,
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  the current car and the current DNA of Red Bull racing is on the wrong track.
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  And that's evidenced by the fact that, you know, poor old Liam Lawson had a really rough ride at the beginning of the year.
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  Only lasted a couple of races, got replaced by Yuki Tsunoda.
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  yuki sunoda exactly and um and he's he's only managed to score seven points in that second car so if both drivers at red bull racing were performing as yuki is um then they would be at the bottom of the constructors championship which is not where red bull racing should be max verstappen's an extraterrestrial as you well know and is pulling out performances from that car that are incredible and what happened was
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  12 months ago or 18 months ago when Christian ran into some difficulties with an employee who made some claims of inappropriate behavior towards him and there was an internal investigation, two internal investigations within Red Bull, he was exonerated at the time.
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  But you'll remember that there was a cache of material that was released, never verified or anything like that, but it did create a very...
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  and toxic environment around the team.
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  And Max Verstappen's father, Joss, said, if Christian Horner stays, this team will explode.
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  It will fall apart.
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  Subsequent to that, Adrian Newey, the great genius designer, left the team.
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  Jonathan Wheatley, who was like the sergeant major, the disciplinarian that managed that team,
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  He left and he's now doing great things at the Sauber outfit.
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  A guy called Will Courtney, who was one of the key people on the pit wall that calls the race strategy during the races, that's won them so many races.
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  He's left, gone to McLaren.
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  So there was a brain drain happening.
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  And then the big, as you said in your question, $10 million question was what was going to happen with Max Verstappen?
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  Was he going to be the next one in this talent drain out of Red Bull Racing?
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  Yeah.
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  There was a disagreement, an argument after the Silverstone Grand Prix, where Verstappen had a difficult afternoon against the McLarens, between Jos Verstappen and Christian.
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  And then 48 hours later, Christian was relieved of his operational duties, announced it to the team the following day and exited the building.
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  He's still on the payroll at Red Bull Racing.
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  but I think it's a combination of performance, the atmosphere within the team, what they call in team sports losing the locker room or losing the dressing room as a manager, and also the issues with Verstappen.
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  And I guess the question then, Rusty, is does it make it more or less likely that Max will stay now that this has happened?
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  This is sort of one of the things I want to come to.
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  Firstly, Laurent Mechies comes in from Racing Bulls.
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  He's got a great CV, as you know, form with that race team at the moment.
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  Are the ingredients going to be right for him to put some sort of rebuild together?
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  And how hard is that mission?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I mean, I know Laurent very well.
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  He's a good friend and he's been through the various different areas of the sport.
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  You know, he had a spell at the FIA where he was working on the race operations side.
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  He was an engineer at Toro Rosso, as it was then called, now Racing Bulls.
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  He was also the sporting director at Ferrari and then came back to be the boss at Racing Bulls prior to this promotion to Rebel Racing.
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  Very competent guy, engineering background, but a good manager.
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  But if you think about it, he's not just taking on a team principal role, he's taking on the CEO role as well, which means he's also got to get the Red Bull powertrains, the engine division, going in the right direction.
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  Those engines are going to be badged forward next season in Formula One with a major rule change.
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  So that's an awful lot for someone to take on their plate and...
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  He knows the setup, which is why I don't think he probably had too much choice in this.
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  I think it was a you're doing this rather than would you like to do this.
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  Had to uproot his family and move them from Italy to England, which is right in the middle of the year as a major undertaking.
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  Very capable guy.
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  But he's obviously going to have to get everyone sort of singing on the same hymn sheet.
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  And again, the crucial element of that is, does Max Verstappen stay around?
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  Can they continue to count on him as they go into the 2026 season?
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  Or is he...
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  Is he going to jump ship and perhaps go to Mercedes, which Toto Wolff is trying very, very hard to organise?
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  And I think that everybody's hanging out to wait and see what Max's decision is.
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  And if you weigh it up from his point of view, on the one hand, you could say with a major rule change like this, where the engines and the chassis are changing for next year, you're better off sticking with the people you know.
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  and then in his case have a look at the competitive landscape during 2026 last time we had a big rule change like this rusty you'll remember red bull were on the right side of it in 2022 and max was dominant before that 2014 mercedes were on the right side of it and lewis hamilton was dominant nika rosberg and matt and the red bull racing really suffered at that point
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  So he'll look and say, is it going to be Mercedes?
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  Is it going to be Aston Martin with Adrian Newey designing the car and works Honda engines exclusively?
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  Is that the direction to go in?
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  So he can buy himself some time to make the right decision rather than having to jump now with a leap of faith that you believe one of them or the other might be the one to go for.
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  On the other hand, he might look at Red Bull and say, this team's in turmoil.
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  I need to get out of here as quickly as possible.
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  My hunch is...
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  The racing intelligence would be stay where you are for a year and then move at the end of 26.
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  My kids, I try to tell them, James, all the time to go to trusted places like a motorsport.com or an autosport and so on, somewhere where there's credibility.
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  But they've come to me with things like –
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  flight plans on social media of Max Verstappen's plane and tracking Toto Wolff's boat and so on.
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  And, you know, trying to understand if this will be the end of the story or if Max would stay or jump.
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  I'm glad you've shed a bit of light on that.
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  Can we come back to Christian just briefly?
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  I mean, he's got a lot of IP from his time at Red Bull.
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  Could you – and I know there's a contract to work out and probably a sizable severance and maybe even gardening leave.
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  Could you see him, you know, going to a Cadillac or staying in the pit lane?
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  What do you think there?
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  Yeah.
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  I think Christian, his pride will be hurt by this.
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  And I think he'll probably want to prove that he is as good as he's always said he was to the owners of Red Bull Racing that's kept him in post for 20 years.
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  And his track record speaks for itself.
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  Eight drivers' championships, six constructors' championships.
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  I think it's 124 race victories.
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  and over 250 podiums.
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  So he's a very, very successful, probably one of the most successful team principals in F1 history, and he's only just turned 51.
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  So there's a lot more to come from Christian Horner if he wants another big job.
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  He's a very wealthy man already.
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  He might want to go and do something else.
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  But if he does want to stay in Formula 1,
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  my hunch would be that he would want a piece of the action.
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  Like Toto Wolff is a shareholder at Mercedes, like Adrian Newey is a shareholder at Aston Martin, I don't think he will want to be anybody's employee anymore.
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  There were some suggestions that Ferrari were trying to get hold of him.
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  Obviously, that's a big job, an exciting job, to return Ferrari to greatness, but there wouldn't be any shareholding attached to that, and you'd have to move the family to Italy and all the rest of it.
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  John Elkin, the chairman of Ferrari, has already said that's not likely to happen.
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  And I don't think that is the direction of travel.
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  I think he's more likely to turn up either at a team like Alpine, perhaps try and buy the team with some wealthy kind of Middle Eastern or American backers.
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  perhaps be involved in a startup like, you know, of a new team coming into the sport.
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  He'd be very credible if he presented a 12th team proposal with backers.
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  But I think he'd be more likely to want to start from an existing base like an Alpine, if he could, or a Haas or whatever, to try and buy a team that's there and then take it from there.
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  If he wants the challenge.
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  I think his wife is very supportive of him having a big career in England.
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  Formula One and wanting to continue with all of that so we will see and just coming back to your kids and their social media tracking There's been a lot about this actually Because the boats in Sardinia and all this kind of thing but the slightly more kind of prosaically of course the reality is that Max Verstappen and Toto Wolff live a matter of a few hundred meters away from each other in Monaco and if they wanted to meet they literally just have to walk around to each other's house knock on the door and sit there and
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  in the back of the house so no one's looking and have a conversation they don't need to go uh all the way to italy or track on their jets or any of that stuff so uh that's the nature of it they're both they're both monaco residents so it's it's easier for and they talk a lot right they're always talking max's dad is always talking to toto and max's manager raymond vermoulin is always talking to him as well this is a fantastic chat we might get james just to hold there for a moment a quick break back with more on rusty's garage right after this
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  You're listening to the Motorsport Brief, our short cast, as we kind of do a report at the midpoint of the 2024 F1 season.
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  Lots of races to come.
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  A close fight in the title between Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri.
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  And whilst the beginning of the podcast has focused on Christian Horner and his departure from Red Bull Racing, we will talk a bit about Oscar's form and his chances in this second half.
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  Back to the convo now.
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  You and I were on the grid in Abu Dhabi back in 2010 for the title decider.
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  It seems like yesterday we were doing that broadcast.
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  Red Bull, I remember, had the music blaring in the garage.
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  They came, James.
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  They disrupted.
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  They conquered.
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  And very impressively with some of the stats that you rolled off before.
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  Can you see them feeling it all, given the passing of Dietrich Matisic in the past 18 months, two years?
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  Can you see them feeling like they have ticked?
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  the formula one box and maybe you know feeling like they've done what they needed to do in formula one or will they be hungrier than ever to prove the doubt is wrong here i mean to me it's very hard to imagine the sport without a red bull now isn't it well we've got two haven't we because they've got two teams racing bulls and the junior team and red bull racing racing bulls of course where liam lawson is is at the moment um i think the
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  Well, a couple of things.
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  Firstly, the team was set up and the whole vision was that of Dietrich Matteschitz, who was the guy that ran Red Bull.
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  He died a few years ago, as you say, and a lot of the problems that have happened that we've been talking about here stem from his death because he was kind of a strong man figure who held the whole thing together.
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  And what he said went.
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  And without without him there, everybody's kind of fighting like rats in a sack for supremacy.
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  So that's a big part of what's led us to this to this situation with Red Bull and with Christian Horner.
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  So, but at the same time, the whole notion of speed and excitement and adrenaline and extreme sport is, which Formula One definitely is, is part of Red Bull's DNA.
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  So, you know, why would they take themselves out of, you know, especially at the moment, Formula One is booming like I've never seen it before in my 35 year career, even when Senna and Prost were at it and in their prime, you know.
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  It was nothing like as big a deal as it is today.
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  So this isn't the moment to quit Formula One.
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  There's still a lot more growth to come.
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  And also the valuations of the team.
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  You know, these are business people at heart.
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  Yes, they want to sell energy drinks, and that is their business.
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  But the value of their two teams combined is probably somewhere in the region of $5 to $6 billion US.
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  Currently, and there's every reason to believe...
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  because that's doubled in the last couple of years, there's every reason to believe that could double again in the next two to five years.
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  So, you know, they could be sitting on two assets there that in a few years from now will be worth $10 billion.
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  I sound like Austin Powers here, don't I?
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  $10 billion.
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  But that's a lot of money, Rusty.
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  That would see you and I comfortably in retirement and utes and fishing trips, wouldn't it?
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  It certainly would.
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  20 years is a long time in this brutal business, James.
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  Even outside of motorsport, it's rare to hear someone say now that they've been with a company or been in that role like Christian for two decades.
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  Maybe it was just time beyond the scandal, the tension and everything else that's transpired there.
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  Can I come to, at this point, if you don't mind, a bit of Oscar Piastri chat?
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  I said recently, park the patriotism.
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  We cannot discount Lando Norris.
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  He is energised by Monaco, the Silverstone win as well.
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  He trails Oscar by eight points now on the ladder.
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  Can McLaren keep letting these two race?
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  We love that they do, but surely this back half of the season is going to get interesting.
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  Yeah, I think so.
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  I mean, it was, what was it, July last year, where things got a little bit tasty between Oscar and Lando in, um, in Hungary and there was some team orders there.
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  And, uh, and then there were a few other examples, uh, as the season went on and they weren't even really fighting for a driver's title at that point.
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  It was, uh, Verstappen was a bit too far away.
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  It's now a two horse race.
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  There's no question.
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  We're at the halfway stage in the championship, 12 rounds down, 12 to go.
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  Um,
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  And I would have said, if we'd had this conversation in the middle of June, that the momentum was definitely with Oscar Piastri and that Lando, psychologically, I think, was struggling a bit.
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  I think the last two rounds in Austria and Silverstone, the manner of the victories, have reset things.
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  Piastri made two mistakes in Silverstone, one in qualifying and another one in the race, where although he claims that he was just doing the same thing as he'd always done behind the safety car with his braking patterns...
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  The reality is he left the door open for Verstappen to make that look worse than perhaps it was and get him a penalty, which, again, was probably more severe than it should have been.
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  The net-net is he didn't win the British Grand Prix, which he should have done, and Lando Norris won it...
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  And because Oscar was faster than him really throughout that.
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  I was there, I was watching it trackside and Oscar definitely had the faster car that day and was the faster man, but he didn't win the race.
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  And he'll have to go away and think about that because now with only eight point gap and 12 rounds to go, it's going to be a case of ebbs and flows.
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  It's absolutely essential that both drivers finish every race.
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  That's fundamental because if you drop points,
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  If you don't score any points, as Norris didn't in Canada, you lose a lot of ground.
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  And I don't know if you're aware of this, Rusty, but Oscar is now on the third longest points running streak in Formula One history.
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  He scored points in 29 consecutive races.
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  which goes back to the 2023 season.
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  So there's only Verstappen and Hamilton have managed a longer streak than, even Schumacher didn't manage it, right?
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  29 consecutive point finishes.
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  So that's a big part of why Oscar is where he is, his consistency, bringing the car home and usually at the front.
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  So he needs to rediscover that groove.
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  If you'd asked me in June who my money was on for the world championship, I would have said Oscar.
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  But I think this mental reset of Norris shows a different side of him, shows a depth to the competitor that perhaps we weren't sure was there.
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  He's not against Max Verstappen, where you would say that Norris might crumble when he's up against Max sometimes.
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  He's up against his teammate, which makes things more intimate and more difficult and creates more tension within the team.
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  But equally, I think it's easier for Norris to take on Piastri than it would be to take on Verstappen in a similar situation.
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  So I would not want to predict which of those two is going to be world champion.
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  But there is no doubt that we are going to have a new Formula One world champion come December.
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  Now, you have to get to the office, so you've been very good with your time.
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  Rapid-fire questions to finish, if that's okay.
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  Biggest surprise of the season so far for you?
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  Got to be the Hulk at Silverstone, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, a long time coming.
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  What, 240-odd Grands Prixs without getting on the podium?
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  Le Mans winner, of course, and certainly a driver who should have had a podium before now.
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  I think, no, I don't think so.
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  I think the biggest surprise of the season for me has been Hadjar in the Racing Bulls car.
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  The rookies are actually, those two, him and...
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  He's performing very, very well in qualifying, but also Behrman is six for six in qualifying against his more experienced teammate Ocon.
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  I think the rookies are doing quite a good job.
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  Antonelli, a little bit less so, but he's got, what, 42, 43 percent of the points of Russell.
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  So he needs to step that up in the second half.
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  But yeah, I think I think my surprise of the season is probably Hadjar.
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  I think he's really caught my eye.
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  That wasn't a very quick answer.
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  Sorry.
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  No, that's a that's a great shout, though, and a very good point.
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  Can Lewis Hamilton win a Grand Prix, not a sprint, before the end of 2025?
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  Yes or no?
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  What do you reckon?
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  Yes, he can.
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  Yes, he can.
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  It's a struggle, but Ferrari, I don't think they'll be doing too many more upgrades.
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  They did lack a bit of pace, but they're not far off.
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  They just need to execute better.
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  Okay.
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  An underachiever or achievers so far?
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  Well, Red Bull, massively underachievers.
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  An overachiever.
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  Russell's done pretty well, got his victories, had five podiums.
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  He's been right up at the front in a not fantastic Mercedes.
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  He'd be an overachiever, I would say.
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  Yeah.
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  And Williams.
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  Williams are much more competitive first half of the season than most people thought they would be.
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  That's good.
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  Can Fred Vassour weather what seems like a bit of a storm and stay at the helm of Ferrari, do you think?
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  Well, there's two questions there.
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  Can he stay at the helm of Ferrari short term?
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  And then can he stay at the helm of Ferrari beyond the end of his current contract, which expires at the end of this year?
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  I don't think they'll sack him before the end of the year, but I don't think they'll retain him next year.
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  So I don't think Fred will be leading Ferrari in 2026.
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  Okay.
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  Wow.
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  That's a big one.
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  I would have thought stability would be a bit of a key there.
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  Finally, we get nervous to ask this, and you've just said it's enormously hard to even contemplate.
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  Could Oscar be the first Aussie to clinch that driver's crown, the first since Alan Jones did back in 1980?
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  I mean, I think he's been the favourite for the last few months.
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  He's been leading this world championship now for most of the season.
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  He's got used to it.
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  He knows what it feels like.
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  He's got the best car.
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  He just has to be...
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  not just consistent, but just be as smart as he was earlier on and try and give Norris as many hard days as possible and knock him off balance.
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  I think it's a bit like Rosberg-Hamilton.
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  Rosberg won in 2016 because he managed to get under Hamilton's skin and he managed to knock him off his stride.
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  And that's what Oscar needs to do to Norris, I think.
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  And then if he does that, I think he'll be the world champion.
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  Some nice parallels drawn with Alain Prost in recent times.
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  So hopefully he channels more of that in the back end of this season.
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  Action resumes at Spa at the Belgian Grand Prix at the end of July.
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  James, we owe you a beer and more.
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  Thank you very much for coming back on The Garage.
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  It's always great to see you, Rusty.
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  And interesting you mentioned Prost there.
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  If people haven't seen it, I really recommend the Prost documentary series.
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  It really does lift the lid on what was an incredible rivalry between him and Senna, but from Prost's point of view, which is a story that's not really been shared very much.
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  So check that out wherever you can find it.
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  Geez, good.
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  I am indebted to James Allen for coming back on.
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  Make sure you visit motorsport.com for all the latest news or autosport while you're at it and check out his podcast too.
• 22:53
  Just a little reminder that nominations for the 2026 Australian Motorsport Hall of Fame will close on Thursday, the 31st of July, 2025.
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  So not many weeks left to go at the time we record here that closure foreclosed.
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  finishes just before midnight Australian Eastern Standard Time.
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  So if you know a competitor, maybe someone in the industry that you feel is worthy of being inducted into the Australian Motorsport Hall of Fame, you can go to any of the member bodies that are a part of that.
• 23:26
  They have shared the link details, or you can also go to Australian Motorsport Hall of Fame, all one word, .com.au, click on About,
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  go to nominate and fill in the details.
• 23:38
  There is a little bit of work to do there, but over to you and we'll be announcing the latest inductees as we've done in recent years in the build-up to the Australian Formula One Grand Prix next March.
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  That's it for today.
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  We'll catch you next time.
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  Bye for now.