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🎪 Bloody Mary, Killer Clowns & Lies Our Parents Told Us | Urban Legends, Halloween Horror & '90s Nostalgia · This Is My Circus

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I'm Stephanie.
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I'm Meredith.
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And welcome to This Is My Circus.
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This is my urban legend circus.
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Yes, it is.
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Urban legends are so cool.
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I think that they're really cool.
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I do, too.
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But a little bit creepy.
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Oh, a, a lot of bit creepy.
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There's so many different ones that are just, worldwide almost.
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Mm-hmm.
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But I'm sure we'll talk about some of them.
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But local ones are really creepy to me.
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Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
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And Brian forgets that I'm not from this area, and he'll be like...
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I'll never forget one time he was like,"That's Crybaby Bridge." And I was like,"What are you talking about?" So then he tell, starts telling me this story about this bridge and you can guess, you hear babies crying- Mm-hmm all that kind of stuff.
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And I was like, I thought he was making it up.
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And then one day somebody was like,"That's Crybaby Bridge." And I was like He wasn't lying.
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Right.
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I don't really know a lot, like, local to this area, though.
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Yeah, me either.
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But I'm not from here either, so.
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Right.
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In Pennsylvania, there wasn't, really any, super urban legends.
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I mean, we just had, like, the generic, Yeah Bloody Mary- Right whatever, you know?
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Right like, that kind of stuff.
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But- But not, something that happened- Well, yeah in a, on a street in your town- Mm-hmm or anything like that.
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I mean, we had haunted places that were- Oh, yeah?
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featured on, on, MTV.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, but, like, not- Did you ever go try to explore any of these haunted places?
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We peeked one of'em into a haunted house one year Halloween.
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Shut up.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, the one that was on MTV.
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I bet they made some cash.
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They did.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, it wasn't, like, super scary.
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But- No no.
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I think it's just the aspect of it's truly a haunted place that give it that vibe.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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That's cool, though.
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We didn't have any, like, super- We didn't either localized ones growing up.
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Not that I can think of, anyway.
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Mm-mm.
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Just, like, you were saying, the, the standard ones.
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Yeah.
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Same old, same old.
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The one that everybody had.
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Yeah.
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But they're fascinating and they're fun and especially with, um, fun might be the wrong word.
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They're fun to scare our friends with.
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Yes.
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Well, just to, you know me, I'm a history nerd, so just to hear the history of some of them is really neat.
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Yeah.
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It's Halloween week.
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Yes, it is.
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We did not dress up.
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Did not.
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Well, we both wore the green.
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Yeah.
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So.
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Unagi.
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Yeah.
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No, no dressing up.
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What would we dress up as an urban legend?
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Crybabies?
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Well- Should I worn a diaper?
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I don't, we could've worn our costumes from two years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, how is your week going?
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It's okay.
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Yeah?
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I guess.
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Yeah.
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It's Monday, always have to, stop and think what day it is so I can, process.
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In your head, what day of the week does the week start on?
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Is yours, like, Sunday to Saturday?
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I, I don't know.
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I don't really have a s- You don't have that?
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I have the calendar in my head, and it's, Sunday to Saturday, and that's, how it looks in my head.
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I can't look ahead.
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I am, like, day by day.
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How am I going to make it through today?
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Uh, yeah, I get that.
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That- I get that that is my train of thought.
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Okay, okay.
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Well, since day one was yesterday for me, this week is fine.
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It hasn't gone off the rails yet.
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Not yet.
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I'm sure, you know, subject to changes.
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Senior week for Jackson at, school, so they're announcing the seniors, on Friday night.
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Okay.
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Which is, uh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's their last regular season home game, so they're doing that.
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And I'm just trying to get that stuff arranged and, just trying to get through it.
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And that's gotta be emotional, too.
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It is.
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For senior year.
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Oh, God, I'm dying.
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Yeah.
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And now apparently, because, you know, of course in my chat is a bunch of senior stuff, so all of my algorithms are nothing but- Senior senior stuff.
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And, it's, like, showing these videos of these moms.
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Oh my God, I'm gonna cry talking about it.
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okay, you remember when Dylan played sports- Mm-hmm especially football?
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'Cause that was...
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Was that his first sport?
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No, he did taekwondo.
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Oh, he did taekwondo.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I'm sure you helped him put his cleats on, right?
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And it's videos of these moms taking their sons' cleats off.
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I can't.
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And it's like,"I put on your first pair and I'm taking off the last." Oh.
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But it...
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I'm doing it to myself- Yeah'cause I keep watching these things.
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I know.
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And luckily Jackson'll probably get to play more.
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This isn't it.
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Yeah.
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Since he's probably gonna go to college and play football.
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That's the plan.
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Yeah.
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But it's tough.
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Yeah.
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Um, having a hard time.
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But it's good to know, like- that we get a senior night.
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Sometimes there's been thi- for instance, like during COVID, things just kind of stopped, and you didn't get some of those last moments for whatever reason.
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Yeah.
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So I'm glad that, we get this.
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And we'll talk next week.
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I think I'm gonna wear, those under-eye, eye things, like, all week.
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Yeah.
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At least maybe that'll help with all the swelling on my face.
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I don't know.
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You can...
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parents escort them out, and I'm sure I'm just gonna be a blubbering mess.
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Yeah.
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And I'm trying to decide.
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Do I pre-game?
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Probably, I would.
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But would that make it worse?
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Oh, yeah.
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Mm.
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Like, will that make me more emotional?
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Or- You want one of my, anxiety pills like, a beta blocker.
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Maybe.
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Well, I mean, and I've got something to chill me out- Yeah like when I get too anxious, but I don't want it to just, make me- Totally emotionless.
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But it's either gonna- Or to fall one, one way or the other.
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Right.
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Right.
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I don't want to be,"Woo, hoo, hoo," you know?
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So I don't know.
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And you know, you also want to remember every part of it, too, so I'm probably just gonna go in cold and, just be a mess.
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So it's okay.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, it was a good week.
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But wear waterproof mascara.
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Am, am I cry- am I leaking right now?
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Yep.
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Yep.
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See?
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Not this one.
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Don't use the Silver Tube by Maybelline.
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ELF has a really good waterproof mascara.
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Do they?
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Yeah.
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Okay, I'll have to try it out.
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still good week.
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Still, still good.
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Yeah.
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Still fun.
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How about you?
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What you got going on?
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oh, I did a, a smoking hypnosis.
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What's a smoking hypnosis?
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Oh, it's just- Oh, it's, it's- To stop, like, the urges or for vaping.
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I love that, but you know, in my mind, I was picturing, like, fog.
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Yeah.
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Like, thinking that- Yeah was your background.
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Yeah, true.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Um- Oh, that's awesome.
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I did it on Tammy.
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She said that, her urges had, lessened it takes a couple of sessions.
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Uh-huh.
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So that was the first one.
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We're gonna do another one- That's really cool soon.
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So she's let me use her as a guinea pig.
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That's really cool.
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Yeah.
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So we'll see.
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How long did one session...
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Is about one session, for anybody, not necessarily- Like, 30 to 40 minutes.
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Okay.
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Depending on what we're working on but she's like, it was so weird." She's like,"I almost felt like I was, levitating." She's like,"It was feeling, weightless while you were doing it." She said, You can hear everything, and you're, like, aware." Oh, interesting.
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But she's like,"I felt...
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My whole body just felt weightless." We need to do that.
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Sign me up.
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Okay.
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Count me down.
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Okay.
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I don't know which aspect of my life we're gonna work on, but- we'll find one and just l- lock in.
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But the funny part is, I'll record my own hypnosis and try,, for myself, but I fall asleep like that.
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And I had talked to my trainer- Mm-hmm and he said it's because, He finds that people who are super stressed or have, so much anxiety or, whatever, like, on their mind- Mm-hmm fall asleep.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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It's like they get to that point and they just completely shut.
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And it's just because they don't ever have that, just relaxation point.
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Yeah.
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And as soon as they get to a certain, point in the going under part- Mm-hmm out- All the way.
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Yeah.
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Do you have massages?
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I have had, yeah.
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Do you fall asleep?
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No.
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Well, no.
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Okay.
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I feel, so awkward.
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I am not surprised one bit.
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But, I feel like I told this story before.
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When, I had gotten into a car accident and they sent me for massage therapy- Mm-hmm and the girl was doing the massage.
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You know, you're laying there naked.
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Yeah.
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And- Naked.
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So she's like,"Oh, you know, do you have any kids?" I'm like,"Yeah, my son's..." I think he was in, like, first or second grade at Griggs.
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Mm-hmm.
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And she's like,"Oh, my son goes there, too." And I'm like,"Oh, what grade is he in?" And it was the same grade, and I'm like,"Oh, I sub there.
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Who's your kid?
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I might probably know him." And she says the name, and it was, like, the worst kid in the class.
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Oh my God.
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Like, the horrible, makes you hate children kid.
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M- no, this kid threw a chair across the room because I wouldn't let him have iPad time because he wouldn't do his work.
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Was that the day you hung up your substitute teacher lanyard?
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That was the day that I, like, oh my gosh, so I called the vice principal.
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He comes, takes him out of the classroom for five minutes and brings him back.
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And I'm like,"No, no, y- so- This, this room's not big enough for the both of us.
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So- So if he's coming in, I'm...
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Heck no I, you...
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We do not get paid for this.
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Right.
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I'm like,"That is a big no." Yeah.
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So then I got, like, super tense and I was like,"Nope, don't know him." I relate with that.
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And she's like,"You're really tense today." And I'm like,"Uh-huh." Uh-huh.
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I wasn't till I got here.
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It's completely fine.
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Aw.
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Yeah.
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But I mean, I've had other massages- Yeah that were great- Yeah but that was, my, Well, that's, Yeah awkward.
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I would prefer to go to a professional service like that, or, my nurse or whatever, not knowing the person.
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Yeah.
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I just feel more comfort...
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Like, it's not in the moment.
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I don't want...
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Yeah, like- But it's, if I see you after.
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Mm-hmm.
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It's like the walk of shame.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The one-night stand?
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Yes.
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Not that I've ever had that, but- Same.
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But still, you know, I see it in movies.
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So I hear.
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That's what Steph told me.
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Oh, gosh, that's funny.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I mean, I love a massage.
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Me too.
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But yeah.
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Yeah.
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If I, when I...
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Let's manifest it.
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When I'm rich, I would have a massage every week.
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Yeah.
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Every other week, whatever my schedule would allow.
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But I- But I'm super ticklish too, though.
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Are you?
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I am.
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Mm-hmm.
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really ticklish.
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I used to be really ticklish and I'm not anymore.
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And it's like, I think it's more'cause I'm so tense that I'm like just waiting for it.
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Yeah.
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And like I psych myself out.
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I feel like you're waiting for it right now, like I'm gonna gooch you or something.
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I think, so my sister used to hold me down and tickle me when we were little.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I think I, I built up walls to protect myself.
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Yeah.
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So I'm not like really ticklish anymore.
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Yeah.
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But that's so funny.
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Yeah.
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I'm so ticklish.
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We grew up in the'80s,'90s.
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Yes.
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We are'80s babies.
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'80s babies, yep.
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We grew up at a time, without cell phones.
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Right.
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So we...
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I think now, like, sleepovers are probably just, they're all scrolling or taking videos and posting Snaps.
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I think I agree, and I think they all wear, the headbands with, the eye patches that I'm gonna be wearing the rest of the week.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and really cute PJs.
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Yeah, we did not have cute PJs.
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No.
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We had horrible- No, and, and we were awkward looking, and they all look beautiful now.
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Our hair.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh, yeah.
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Okay, go ahead., So it was a- I- I'll stop being upset about that a much simpler time.
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Yes.
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we didn't have social media, so we didn't have all the distractions, but apparently before our parents cared whether we, Mm-hmm came home before- the streetlights came on, we were definitely in for some psychological warfare.
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Yep.
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We couldn't say Bloody Mary in the mirror, couldn't flash our headlights at strangers.
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Oh gosh, I forgot about that one.
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Couldn't eat our Halloween candy without it being inspected for razor blades.
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Mm-hmm.
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And God forbid you turned on the dome light in the car.
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Oh my gosh, yes.
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That was a federal offense.
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That was...
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Like, every- I still ask Brian,"Can I turn this light on?" He's like,"Yes." And somehow despite all these dangers, our parents let us roam the neighborhood unsupervised until the streetlights came on.
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We're literally trying to summon ghosts, and they're like,"Okay, just come back when the lights come back on." Good luck.
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And wave to sc- Yeah.
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Like this, like,"Toodaloo." Toodles.
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So today we're revisiting, the urban legends, sleepover games, creepy chain letters, and absolutely unhinged warnings that defined our childhoods.
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Yes.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited, too.
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The nostalgia.
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You know I have...
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I'm a sucker for the nostalgia things.
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We had some interesting urban legends that we grew up with.
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Absolutely.
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So all of the ones that I'm really familiar with are more of like a sleepover thing.
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Yeah, same.
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Okay, like girls sleepover and you're staying up late and you're telling all the stories.
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I wonder if boys did this?
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They had sleepovers, but I feel like they...
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Well, the sleepovers at my house, they were like outside playing basketball till like 3:00 AM.
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Not in my house when I was little.
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Yeah.
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But like my house Yeah.
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It's like outside and eat, or outside, come in and eat, outside.
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So I don't know if they really did this kind of stuff.
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When my brother had friends sleep over, we weren't allowed to go hang out with them.
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Yeah.
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They didn't want girls, especially like little sisters there.
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I really don't know.
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But the girls did it.
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Yeah.
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definitely a sleepover thing.
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It's funny when you think about it.
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It's like, what, what are we really trying to do?
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What are we really trying to prove?
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One that really stood out to me...
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You wanna just go through some of them?
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Yeah.
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I had a couple that are my favorites or that just like pop in my mind immediately.
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Great.
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First one's Bloody Mary.
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Mm-hmm.
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And the Bloody Mary thing was you would go into a bathroom, you'd turn off the lights, you'd stand in front of the mirror, and you'd say Bloody Mary three times.
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Mm.
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That was how we did it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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What y'all do?
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Same.
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Mm-hmm.
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And supposedly a terrifying woman or spirit would appear in the mirror, and different versions said she might scratch you or scream or come after you.
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I did this all the time.
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And it was always so funny,'cause there was like eight of us at a sleepover.
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Right.
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Especially if it was a birthday party where they could have more over, and you're all in this little bathroom, and you're all staring in the mirror.
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And,"Oh, I saw something there." Everybody's trying to get out as fast as they can.
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But what were we gonna do?
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If she appeared, what was the plan?
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There was no plan.
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There was no plan.
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Absolutely not.
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Was the first child- Right who decided summoning a horrifying- Yep bloody woman- Mm-hmm ghost- Was this is a great idea was a good idea?
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Right.
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Great idea.
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And as I was thinking about these and the whole sleepover thing, this is where we did them, I'm sure I learned these from my older sister.
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You think so?
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I think so, because I'm sure she had people over, and they would do these.
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And then I would go to somebody else's house, and e- they might have even had older siblings too or- Yeah whatever, and we're like,"Oh, look, let's try to do this.
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They did this." Yeah.
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It's just passed down from generation.
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Do kids still do that?
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I doubt it because they have cell phones now.
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Everything's online.
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Their urban legends are online.
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I guess.
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If anybody knows, I'm gonna have to reach out to some of my friends that have girls.
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Do girls still do this stuff?
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Yeah.
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'Cause I know I want to know.
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Yeah.
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What was another, what was one of your favorites?
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Candyman.
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yes.
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So- Forgot about that one.
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Yeah.
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Candyman was also a movie- Mm-hmm which we saw that.
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I saw that in the theater.
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Yeah.
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We saw it when it came out on VHS.
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Yep.
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Blockbuster.
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Yep.
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The legend is you look in the mirror and say Candyman five times, according to the 1992 horror movie.
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You summon a murderous spirit with a hook for a hand.
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That is terrifying.
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Again, why were we wanting to do this?
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Yeah.
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So the backstory, the character comes from Clive Barker's short story, The Forbidden, which I didn't know that.
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I didn't know that either.
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Adapted into the film Candyman.
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The movie's mirror summoning ritual draws on Bloody Mary's folklore, so it's just a spin- Mm-hmm on Bloody Mary.
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Mm-hmm.
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But 10 times worse- Yeah and terrifying.
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Let's just add all the scary things.
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So now it's a man.
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Now he's got a hook hand.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And these ghosts apparently, are evil.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Did you ever do Candyman?
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No.
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We did after we saw the movie.
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Okay.
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And I was probably like- 10, maybe 11.
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Yeah, that tracks'cause I was a little bit older.
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I think that's why we didn't do it with you.
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Yeah.
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I was way more mature at that point.
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But yeah, I was, like, petrified, but it did not work, obviously.
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It didn't work.
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No.
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No.
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Mm-mm.
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No.
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No.
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Another one of my favorites was light as a feather, stiff as a board.
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Yes.
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That was probably hands down my favorite one.
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Did it ever work?
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You know, I think it did.
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Uh, you know, we all were slipping our hands underneath- Yeah trying to help lift.
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Okay, so let me explain it for poor people that might not have ever been able- Okay to do this before.
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So one person lies on the floor, everybody gathers around, and you put two fingers underneath the person, and then everybody says,"Light as a feather, stiff as a board." And the idea is that that person will mysteriously just become light enough to lift.
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With two fingers.
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Everybody.
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What- Yeah you got seven people.
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Yeah.
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My fingers are not very strong.
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You can have the feet.
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But then I remember, people like, being like,"Oh my God." And then, you know, you drop her and she gets, like, that far off the ground, or half of her body gets up.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we're just out here trying to make people levitate.
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We- It's fine should have a grownup, adult girl slumber party and do this stuff and see if it works.
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Did you do light as a feather, stiff as a board?
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We did, but it never worked.
16:00
You would definitely be the person.
16:02
Oh, I'd have to be the floater?
16:03
Oh yeah.
16:04
Yeah.
16:05
You're the floater.
16:05
You're, you got this.
16:09
Yeah.
16:10
I really can't see today's girls doing that.
16:12
No, me either.
16:12
Again, they're all just sit on their phones I know.
16:15
Okay, what else you got?
16:16
Ouija boards.
16:18
I never touched a Ouija board.
16:19
I have.
16:21
you and your friends put the fingers on the little planchet and start asking questions.
16:25
Suddenly it moves and spells out a name.
16:27
So it has a board with the alphabet on it, and numbers, and yes and nos.
16:30
Mm-hmm.
16:31
So you ask the questions, you move the little movie thing, and it's supposed to spell out answers to your questions.
16:37
Mm-hmm.
16:38
interesting facts.
16:38
Ouija boards became commercially popular in the late 1800s during the Spiritualism movement.
16:44
The movement can be explained by ideomotor effect, tiny unconscious muscles, movements that people don't realize they're making.
16:52
So subconsciously you're moving this thing- Mm-hmm to answer your own questions.
16:55
Mm-hmm.
16:57
In 1973, the film the Exorcism helped strengthen their sinister reputation.
17:01
Okay.
17:01
So imagine you're a ghost just minding your own business.
17:06
You're summoned by a bunch of 10-year-olds.
17:08
What?
17:09
Does- Brittany.
17:12
D- does Bob like me?
17:14
Yeah.
17:16
No.
17:18
Everybody has a crush on Bob so yeah.
17:20
Yeah.
17:21
Do you remember the game Teen Heart Throb?
17:23
Yes.
17:24
I loved that game.
17:26
Yes.
17:26
Mm-hmm.
17:27
But I remember looking at all those dudes and being like,"None of these are the ones.
17:31
The- they're not for me, but give me a mix of a couple of them." Yeah.
17:35
But- Build my own.
17:36
And can I build my own heartthrob.
17:38
There, I've seen, it's probably on TikTok or whatever, of where are the teen heartthrobs now.
17:43
Oh my gosh, hilarious.
17:45
Yes.
17:45
So funny.
17:46
Yeah.
17:47
Let's do the killer in the backseat.
17:48
Okay.
17:49
Yeah, go for it.
17:50
I just had a quick note about this, but basically what we did, and I'm curious too because, you grew up in PA, right?
17:56
Mm-hmm.
17:56
And I'm just curious on how different things were.
17:58
Did we have Southern ghosts?
18:01
I'm just kidding.
18:01
Did they have accents?
18:03
100%.
18:04
But yeah, so you're riding in the car, somebody flashes their lights.
18:07
There's somebody in the backseat trying to kill you.
18:09
Mm-hmm.
18:09
Is that what y'all had too?
18:10
Yeah.
18:10
Uh-huh.
18:11
And it was supposed to be, like, a gang initiation.
18:13
Yes.
18:13
Yeah.
18:14
Yes.
18:14
Then it turned into...
18:15
So the first part of it that we knew was flashing your lights, somebody trying, somebody in your backseat, be careful.
18:20
Mm.
18:20
Like, whatever.
18:21
And then it turned into that, and then try to get people to stop and then they would kill you- Yeah because, like you said, gang initiation.
18:27
Mm-hmm.
18:28
So that was up there too.
18:29
Yeah.
18:29
That's funny.
18:30
Yeah.
18:31
I guess it's a maybe a nationwide thing.
18:32
I guess.
18:33
That one, all of these were.
18:34
Yeah.
18:35
babysitter and the Man Upstairs?
18:37
Oh, yeah.
18:38
The story goes a teenage babysitter is watching two children in a big house.
18:42
The kids are asleep upstairs, and she's watching television downstairs.
18:45
The phone rings.
18:46
A strange man tells her to check on the children.
18:48
She hangs up thinking it's a prank.
18:50
The calls keep coming.
18:51
Eventually she contacts the police, who trace the calls.
18:53
Then comes a terrifying warning.
18:55
The calls are coming from inside the house.
18:57
Yeah, and then Drew Barrymore just dies.
19:00
Yeah.
19:01
In some of the darker versions, the children have already been killed.
19:04
Mm-hmm.
19:04
This is an urban legend circulating by the early 1960s, later influencing horror movies, including When a Stranger Calls.
19:11
Mm-hmm.
19:12
So yeah, our$3 an hour babysitting job was terrifying, hearing these stories.
19:18
Mm-hmm.
19:19
Okay, so let's pause.
19:20
say these were, these were today.
19:22
Mm-hmm.
19:23
How are they calling the babysitters now in the house?
19:26
The cellphone and- On Snap?
19:27
Yeah.
19:29
And you know, a lot of, new cars, the headlights stay on.
19:32
How are you flashing your headlights at people?
19:34
True.
19:35
I guess, like, high and low beam.
19:36
Yeah.
19:37
Yeah.
19:37
A lot of these, they're, they're just not the same anymore, are they?
19:40
No, you can't slam a phone down anymore.
19:42
No, it's not the same to just- push the off button.
19:46
I did see that they were making, like, holders for your cellphones, like the old- To make it look like a- Yeah phone in a...
19:53
I need a cradle, too.
19:54
Yeah or the thing that you put it on the wall.
19:57
Did you have a phone in your room?
19:58
We just had a cordless phone.
19:59
Yeah.
20:00
My sister and I had phones in our rooms.
20:02
We didn't have a separate line, but we both had phones in our rooms, and it was, like, the curly one I thought I was somebody too.
20:07
Yeah having a phone in my room.
20:08
And when you listen in on your sister's conversation.
20:10
Oh, 100%.
20:11
We sound so much alike, oh, oh, all the time.
20:14
With her being older, I was finding out things I did not need to know.
20:19
Like what?
20:21
She had boyfriends.
20:22
Let me just say that.
20:24
That liked her.
20:25
Um- You remember, you had to wait until after a certain time because it was- Oh, my God, yeah not- I got three minutes after 9:00.
20:30
Yeah.
20:32
Long distance wasn't long distance after a certain time.
20:34
Oh, yeah.
20:35
Yeah.
20:36
Yeah.
20:36
Oh, my gosh, the days.
20:37
Yeah.
20:37
You don't have to worry about that no more.
20:39
Right?
20:40
I don't know how this one would be done either, satanic messages in music.
20:44
Yeah.
20:44
Well, I think that still happens now.
20:46
But how?
20:47
So the thing that this, cassette tapes or records played backwards- Mm-hmm would be satanic messages telling you to kill your mother and eat a cat or something like that.
20:57
I don't know.
20:58
Um- Not the mom.
21:01
Not the mom.
21:02
Um, but yeah, I don't know how, like, how would you do that now with, like, a, a download?
21:07
Yeah.
21:08
Well, I think, subliminal messages, like they put it so- Yeah low that you- Yeah can't really hear it, but you subconsciously hear it.
21:14
Yeah.
21:15
Which they say really does happen.
21:16
Well, I mean, it's a form of hypnosis, I guess- Yeah where it's in your subconscious.
21:20
Like the Disney things where everything says sex.
21:23
Yeah.
21:23
People are too obsessed with that.
21:25
Yeah.
21:25
Like that, come on.
21:26
Some of it, though, was legit.
21:28
Some of it was, but I felt like you can find things in anything.
21:31
Yeah.
21:31
I think some of them are really a reach.
21:33
Yeah.
21:33
Some of them, yeah, it's like, oh, that's very phallic.
21:38
The Little Mermaid cover.
21:39
Yes.
21:41
But some of them, I'm like,"Okay, now you're just really trying to find something to stir something up here." Yeah.
21:45
But anyway.
21:46
Yeah.
21:47
Mm.
21:48
I know.
21:48
Well.
21:50
Moving on.
21:51
The hook on the car door, which this I think was related to the documentary.
21:56
Yeah, and actually the babysitter one is in the documentary too.
21:59
Yeah.
21:59
We might not have made it that far.
22:00
No.
22:01
It's okay.
22:02
So the hook on the car door, the story goes a teenage couple is parked at Lover's Lane when the radio announces an escaped murderer with a hook for a hand.
22:12
A girl demands that they leave.
22:13
The boyfriend reluctantly starts the car and drives away.
22:15
When they get home, they discover something hanging from the passenger side door handle, a bloody hook.
22:23
I was like,"What?" Another famous urban legend widely retold with different settings, they just didn't want you to go make out with boys.
22:30
Like, that's why the parents told this story.
22:33
Well, you'd think so, but then in the documentary we're gonna talk about later- Yeah it's, it's curious.
22:38
Yeah.
22:39
I never heard that one before.
22:40
We didn't go and park.
22:42
Right.
22:42
We didn't have, like, the- You didn't have a Lover's Lane.
22:45
No.
22:46
So- Maybe that's why we didn't ever hear about it Yeah, I don't remember hearing that one either.
22:50
But when we were doing most of these, we were younger.
22:53
Yeah.
22:54
So maybe that's it too, like it was- Yeah, an older one, like a- Yeah yeah well, and my sister, let me call her.
22:59
Yeah.
22:59
Oh yeah, she might know about that one.
23:01
She's old.
23:02
She's a old hag.
23:04
Did you believe any of these growing up, though?
23:06
Were you, like, legit thinking something was serious?
23:09
I think the Ouija board, I was like, maybe you can talk to spirits- Yeah because I do believe in ghosts and I do believe in that stuff.
23:16
Mm-hmm.
23:16
So I think probably that was- Mm-hmm the one that I was like,"Okay,""If this is gonna happen- Mm-hmm this is it." Yeah.
23:23
Yeah the other ones, I think I was just scared, like, to be scared.
23:26
Yeah.
23:26
Yeah.
23:27
'Cause everybody else was scared, it kinda gives you that- Yeah that energy, yeah.
23:30
I really thought the, backwards music thing was real.
23:32
I thought that, Ozzy Osbourne was a devil worshiper, and he might've been, I don't even k- I don't know.
23:36
But you know- Yeah we talked about grew up really religious and all the things, and I was very judgmental, so I really believed that one was like,"Megadeth?
23:45
Oh my God, you're..." Oh, no.
23:47
Yeah.
23:48
Oh.
23:48
That was me.
23:49
No.
23:49
That was me.
23:50
I, yeah, the Ouija board was the only one that I was like,"Okay," like- Yeah"If this is gonna happen- Yeah this is it." This is the one that could, could really- And then also, the gang initiation thing.
23:59
Yeah I was scared of that, but...
24:01
Did you ever have somebody, flash their lights at you and you were like,"Aww"?
24:05
Yeah, but then, it also means, there's a cop up ahead.
24:07
Yes.
24:07
Yes.
24:08
I tried explaining that to Jackson one time.
24:10
I was like,"Now, when somebody..." Did you ever explain that to Dylan, do you think?
24:13
Do you remember?
24:13
Yeah, but then if you get, I'm like,"But don't do it because of a cop." Right.
24:16
It's driving- There's a, there's a- Yeah there's a sweet spot.
24:18
But I, I tried to telling Jackson, I said,"When flashes, there's something up ahead." Yeah.
24:21
There could be just a wreck or whatever, but probably a cop, so just be on the lookout.
24:25
Yeah, yeah.
24:27
Now a lot of the apps now that tell you there's a cop sitting up there.
24:29
Uh-huh.
24:30
I saw a TikTok, that a cop was on the Waze app and kept hitting, no longer there.
24:36
That is, um, that's sweet revenge.
24:40
And every time a car drove by, it would pop back up on his screen.
24:42
And he...
24:43
Yeah.
24:44
That's so funny.
24:47
Oh, gosh.
24:47
That's so funny.
24:48
I just think it's funny that we survived that, though.
24:50
Like we were here s- you know, summoning spirits and Ouija boards and lifting up our friends with our fingers or whatever and- True now we've got kids who don't even know how to answer like a rotary phone.
25:02
They can't write in- write in cursive.
25:03
I was just gonna say that.
25:06
All right, so let's do Halloween myths and things that were supposed to kill us.
25:09
Oh, okay.
25:11
Razor blades- Yep in candy.
25:14
Mm-hmm.
25:14
Poisoned, drugged candy.
25:16
Like that never happened.
25:17
No.
25:18
I wanted some.
25:18
Every piece of candy.
25:20
We got by, too.
25:22
Chalk another...
25:23
또 Another thing that I was so paranoid about that never even happened.
25:27
Every Halloween, parents warned that strangers were secretly putting razor blades, needles, poison or drugs in our candy.
25:34
Mm-hmm.
25:34
Um, sociologist Joel Best had researched Halloween candy contamination claims going back to 1958 and found no documented cases of a child being killed or seriously injured by a random contaminated trick or treat, treat.
25:47
Trick or treat.
25:48
Isolated tampering incidents have occurred, but the widespread stranger danger panic is- Mm greatly exaggerated.
25:53
Yeah, yeah.
25:54
Do you remember when they were x-raying candy?
25:57
Like they would have news segments,"Bring your candy up here and have it x-rayed to make sure there's no razor blades in it." Yeah.
26:02
Why don't we just cut it out then?
26:03
What was awful too, is at one point I did totally believe this, and so I would go trick-or-treating with my siblings.
26:08
Mm-hmm.
26:09
They're all older so I went with them.
26:11
Yeah.
26:11
My parents didn't go with us because we're six years apart.
26:14
Right.
26:14
So I was- You were fine.
26:15
Yeah.
26:15
And obviously it wasn't as crazy back then.
26:18
They didn't care.
26:18
I got it.
26:19
Every freaking house.
26:20
So, yeah.
26:20
Yeah.
26:21
But we wouldn't eat our candy like on our way.
26:24
Like we would have to wait until it gets checked.
26:26
And then- And then I'm, and then I'm like, you know what that really was?
26:29
That was them doing the parent tax.
26:30
That was the candy tax, where they were just trying to pick out what they wanted.
26:35
I candy text Jackson all the time I used to.
26:37
No one uses it where you're from, but Trey, I used to.
26:39
And I was like,"There's a thing called the, the parent text." Mm-hmm.
26:42
Mm-hmm.
26:43
But we like the same kinds, so I always felt bad, like, taking his Reese cups.
26:47
Yeah.
26:48
I don't, yeah, I don't eat peanut butter, so he was good on that front.
26:51
Did you want, like, the Sweetarts?
26:53
No, I wanted, the Crunch bars.
26:55
Okay.
26:55
Or- I'll get you that a Snickers.
26:57
Yeah.
26:58
Sour Patch Kids.
26:59
Okay.
27:00
Brian came out of the gas station the other day with candy.
27:03
Ooh, Nerds too.
27:05
Like Nerds?
27:05
Nerds are, like, the worst candy though.
27:07
There are so many chemicals in it.
27:08
Yeah.
27:08
And you're only supposed to have, 100 a year to be whatever considered safe.
27:13
Are we, like, radioactive then?
27:14
Yeah, because in those little boxes, there's more than 100.
27:17
Oh, yeah.
27:18
We were coming back from a trip this weekend, and Brian went and pumped gas and went and got something.
27:23
Me and Jackson stayed in the car, and he came out with candy.
27:25
It's like a roll of Spree.
27:27
Jackson was like,"You buy the worst candy." He was like,"You are the one who keeps them in business.
27:33
Nobody else buy these things but you." The chewy Sprees are good.
27:37
Get over it.
27:40
Do you remember Razzles, the candy that would turn into gum?
27:43
Yes.
27:44
Yeah.
27:45
I really like the little wax candy.
27:47
Ew.
27:47
I know, so weird, but y- like, just'cause you take it out and, like, drink the juice.
27:51
Ew.
27:52
Did you like candy corn?
27:53
No.
27:54
Oh, I don't like candy corn.
27:55
Ugh.
27:55
But do you remember the...
27:56
I'm sorry, I'm totally sidetracking us.
27:58
It's what we do.
27:59
The, taffy butterscotchy thing that are in red and, orange and black- Yeah, yeah wrappers.
28:03
Uh-huh.
28:03
And people are like,"Does anybody know what these are called?" What are these?
28:09
I used to eat them though.
28:10
Yeah, me too.
28:14
What's your all-time favorite Halloween candy, though?
28:16
Like, it doesn't have to be, like, regular candy.
28:19
It can be, I guess, whatever, any kind of candy.
28:20
Just anything chocolate.
28:22
Yeah.
28:22
But not a Whopper.
28:23
Mm-mm, lead those away from me.
28:25
Get'em out.
28:27
And not a Goober.
28:29
Really?
28:29
Do you like- Yeah.
28:31
Wait, Goober.
28:32
That's the chocolate-covered peanuts.
28:33
Goobers are fine, no Raisinet.
28:34
Ew.
28:35
That's just a waste of a raisin and chocolate.
28:38
Ugh.
28:38
And not to sound snooty, but not the off-name chocolate.
28:41
Yeah.
28:42
But anything chocolate, that's the top.
28:44
Okay.
28:45
That's the top.
28:46
And then after that, I don't even really want anything, like, sour or anything like that.
28:50
What about you?
28:50
What are your favorites?
28:51
Sour Patch Kids.
28:52
You are a Sour Patch.
28:53
No, I'm just kidding.
28:55
It fits you, bitch.
28:57
So that would be, like, what you would want first?
28:59
Yeah, that's what I would want.
29:00
If they're like,"Okay-" But I don't, I haven't eaten candy because I've watched so many things on how many chemicals are in the candy.
29:05
Yeah.
29:06
I haven't eaten candy since July.
29:08
other than gum.
29:09
And gum's terrible, too, but, like, I'm not- Yeah giving up my gum.
29:12
But I haven't eaten, an actual piece of candy- Oh since July.
29:16
Yay, you.
29:18
I'm just kidding.
29:19
It's been a very boring life.
29:21
Well, there are so m- like, the, like, the red dyes and all that kind of stuff is crazy.
29:25
But there's, stuff to kill bugs in, in the candy.
29:28
Then it's like why even put that in there?
29:29
Yeah.
29:29
It makes no sense.
29:30
Yeah.
29:31
They're just trying to kill us slowly.
29:32
Uh, yeah.
29:34
Probably right.
29:34
I have stopped eating candy and almost everything.
29:38
It's not even enjoyable to eat anymore.
29:40
I- I get that.
29:41
I'm so burnt out on, fixing and figuring out meals.
29:44
Mm-hmm.
29:44
I have no desire to do any of that.
29:46
I have so many saved videos on Facebook.
29:48
Uh-huh.
29:48
And I never make any of them.
29:49
I know.
29:50
All right.
29:50
Black cats and Halloween superstitions.
29:52
Yeah.
29:53
I feel so bad for black cats.
29:54
I do too.
29:54
They get a bad rap.
29:55
They do.
29:56
Just like the number 13.
29:57
Mm-hmm.
29:58
It's not a bad number.
29:59
Saw it.
29:59
Cause my birthday's on the 13th.
30:01
Right.
30:02
But black cats crossing your path is supposed to bring you bad luck.
30:05
Mm-hmm.
30:05
Black cats are witches in disguise, black cats are dangerous around Halloween, breaking a mirror brings seven years bad luck.
30:11
Oh, yeah.
30:12
Walking underneath a ladder brings bad luck.
30:14
Spilling salt means you need to throw some over your shoulder.
30:17
And I never remember which shoulder, so I'm always just like- Both a little bit of both.
30:21
Yep.
30:22
Feel pity for the one behind me.
30:25
Black cats have been associated with witchcraft in parts of European history, but other traditions see them as good luck.
30:32
Animal welfare organizations also emphasize that claims of widespread ritual to harm adopted black cats at Halloween lack supporting evidence.
30:40
So I've seen things where, um, some shelters were, will, like, do free adoption for their black cats, like, the month of October or something like that.
30:47
Yeah.
30:47
But I'd love to have a cat.
30:49
Would you?
30:50
Mm-hmm.
30:50
I just don't want to deal with the litter box.
30:52
Mm.
30:53
Yeah.
30:55
And I don't want it anywhere near the kitchen- Yeah at all.
30:58
Yeah,'cause they jump on the counters.
31:00
Mm-hmm.
31:00
They, they...
31:01
Yeah.
31:01
But they're...
31:02
Maybe I don't want cats.
31:05
Go visit one.
31:06
Now there is also, because we're in the age of the internet- Yes there's also internet, urban legends now.
31:12
Oh, gosh.
31:13
I didn't even think of that.
31:14
Chain letters.
31:16
An email would show up announcing that a girl had died under mysterious circumstances and now her ghost was coming to get you unless you forwarded the message to 10 people- Mm-hmm within the next 10 minutes.
31:25
Hmm.
31:26
Did you do physical chain letters, though, when you were younger?
31:28
Yeah.
31:29
Okay.
31:29
Mm-hmm.
31:29
I was gonna say, There's just enough difference between us that when we were younger- Yeah that would've probably been a big difference.
31:34
Yeah.
31:34
The writing them and then mailing them.
31:36
Mm-hmm.
31:37
Yeah, maybe that's why my life's so F-ed up'cause I didn't send'em fast enough.
31:41
Same.
31:42
I only sent those to nine people and then- Yeah.
31:44
Don't know how to bounce back.
31:45
That's it.
31:49
Yeah.
31:50
Creepy email attachments, a mysterious photo someone sent you claiming that looking closely would reveal a ghost, almost always blurry enough to be- Oh a shower curtain.
31:59
Yeah.
32:01
Haunted websites, pages that insisted you were about to experience paranormal activity, often followed by a terrifying pop-up image.
32:09
Mm-hmm.
32:09
I hate those.
32:10
I know.
32:10
They always get me.
32:11
Ugh.
32:12
Now they're all over, Facebook.
32:14
Mm-hmm.
32:14
You don't have to go to a weird website.
32:16
They're just there.
32:18
Subliminal messages, like you said.
32:19
Mm-hmm.
32:19
Playing songs backwards supposedly revealed Satanic messages.
32:23
Cursed videos, the idea that watching a certain video would bring bad luck or summon, uh, something supernatural.
32:29
Early jump scares.
32:32
Remember staring intently into an image because someone told you there was a hidden ghost, only for a screamy face to fill the screen.
32:39
Mm-hmm.
32:40
Slender Man.
32:41
I didn't hear about that growing up, though.
32:42
Neither did I.
32:43
This is, a new age- The new stuff, yeah.
32:45
I think- Kids today are so much more gullible.
32:47
I don't know why.
32:48
Yeah.
32:49
You would think that they would not be because of the internet.
32:51
You would think that because that they have everything at their fingertips, that they would be well-versed in all of the things, and just know.
32:59
But it's almost like no.
33:00
Yeah.
33:01
Yeah.
33:01
It's almost like they, they have all the things, but don't believe any of the things.
33:04
Yes.
33:04
So, our parents lied to us a lot.
33:08
Yeah.
33:09
And not just about, Santa Claus.
33:12
What did they say about Santa?
33:15
now we have a collection of lies we grew up believing.
33:19
Uh-huh.
33:20
We didn't have Google to fact-check.
33:23
We didn't have a Google machine.
33:24
No Google machine.
33:25
All right.
33:26
What they told us- I'm scared I'm getting ready to have some revelations right now.
33:29
Oh, God.
33:31
What you got?
33:32
All right.
33:32
So turn off that dome light or the police will arrest us.
33:34
Oh, yeah.
33:35
Yeah.
33:35
Um, yeah, I don't know why we believed that too.
33:38
Like, that makes no sense.
33:39
Still an issue for me.
33:40
Still, still, still have to make sure that it's okay that I do it.
33:44
Gum stays in your stomach for seven years.
33:46
God, yeah.
33:47
I totally believed that.
33:49
Yeah, same.
33:50
Yeah.
33:50
Apparently, my stomach was like- a Hubba Bubba storage.
33:54
'Cause I always swallowed my gum.
33:56
Did you like bubble tape?
33:57
Yeah.
33:58
God, yeah.
33:58
So good.
33:59
Don't sit too close to the TV or you're gonna lose your eyesight.
34:02
keep making that face and it will freeze that way.
34:04
Yeah.
34:05
If you go outside with wet hair, you'll catch a cold.
34:08
Mm-hmm.
34:09
Um, cracking your knuckles will give you arthritis.
34:11
Yeah, I wonder, though, if that one's true or not.
34:13
Why?
34:14
Because I have arthritis in my hands really bad.
34:16
Oh.
34:17
And I was a bad knuckle cracker.
34:19
Knuckle cracker.
34:19
Like, I used to crack my neck.
34:21
Oh, I crack my back all the time.
34:22
Does it bother you?
34:24
Like- To crack it?
34:24
No, like, does it hurt?
34:26
Oh, it just feels a little tight, so I'll, like, twist- So you twist and it cracks.
34:29
Yeah.
34:29
I used to do that.
34:30
I can literally remember being in my freshman science class doing that, and, leaning back and, the whole thing cracking.
34:36
Mm-hmm.
34:36
And here we are.
34:37
I watched, the chiropractor guys on TikTok.
34:40
So are you official now?
34:42
No.
34:42
But, they tell you how to, crack your own back and, do the things, and it's like- Yeah.
34:46
Do, do, do, do, do, do, like, the little cracky sounds.
34:48
Mm-hmm.
34:48
And I'm like,"Mine doesn't do that.
34:50
I want it to do that." Right.
34:51
Right.
34:51
I hated to see that.
34:52
It, it looks like it feels really good.
34:54
I know.
34:54
I know.
34:55
If you swallow a watermelon seed, one will grow in your stomach.
34:58
Yeah.
34:58
I totally believed that one, too- I did when I was little.
35:01
I thought that one was kind of just, like, a deterrent.
35:03
Like, just don't, don't be stupid.
35:04
Don't swallow- I just, like- there, there has to be some f- sort of truth to it.
35:07
Why would they lie to me?
35:09
You didn't even question it.
35:09
No.
35:10
Well, I was probably, like, five or six, but, no.
35:11
Yeah.
35:11
My parents wouldn't lie to me.
35:13
Right.
35:13
Why would they lie?
35:15
Liars.
35:16
Lying liars.
35:18
Don't cross your eyes or they'll stay that way.
35:20
Yeah.
35:20
The ice cream truck only plays music when it's out- Out of ice cream.
35:24
I never got told that one I didn't either But that's a good one.
35:27
That is a good one.
35:30
That is a good one.
35:31
Did you have a ice cream truck by you?
35:33
Mm-hmm.
35:33
Yeah.
35:33
We had, we had one in our neighborhood growing up.
35:34
Yeah.
35:35
And we were cutting grass this summer, actually the spring before Jackson was hurting.
35:39
One came through.
35:40
Me and Jackson ran, and we were getting ice cream cones over there cutting grass, like,"What are y'all do-?" I was like,"My SpongeBob ice cream." That's awesome.
35:48
It was great.
35:49
It was great.
35:51
If you tell a lie, I'll know.
35:52
But they did know.
35:54
And I think- Just like we know now I know.
35:55
But, that was a true one.
35:56
That wasn't- Mm like a, a lie lie.
35:58
Yeah.
35:59
We're leaving in five minutes.
36:01
Lots.
36:01
We're leaving in five minutes.
36:02
Lots.
36:02
Especially with six people trying to get out the door.
36:04
Oh, I'm sure, yeah.
36:06
If you touch a frog, you'll get warts.
36:08
Oh, yes.
36:09
I did hear that one.
36:10
I wonder where that one came from.
36:11
And why?
36:12
What's wrong with frogs?
36:14
I mean, they are kinda gross Some of them are poisonous.
36:16
Yeah.
36:16
Maybe that's where it came from.
36:17
Oh, maybe.
36:18
Okay.
36:19
Don't go outside barefoot or you'll catch a disease.
36:22
I was always barefoot.
36:23
I still am.
36:23
I was always barefoot.
36:24
I'm still always barefoot.
36:25
But we didn't, like, live in the city where we were walking around No where 1,000 people were every day And there was no, like, needles that we might step on.
36:33
No, we were like out in the sticks.
36:34
No risk of, of sages walking around in our yards.
36:36
We were on a mountain.
36:37
Right.
36:37
Don't play with that or you'll poke your eye out.
36:40
Yeah.
36:40
Don't turn on the car's inside light because Dad can't see.
36:43
Oh.
36:43
But that was the same dome light- Yeah thing.
36:45
I still say, I do say the, poke your eye out thing.
36:48
Like,"Be careful.
36:48
Somebody's gonna get hurt." Not so much anymore, but when Jackson was little.
36:52
What is that, the Christmas story?
36:54
Yeah.
36:54
Yep.
36:54
Who's future I- Yeah Coffee will stunt your growth.
36:57
Uh-huh.
36:58
I did hear that one.
36:59
Yeah.
36:59
I'm like,"I'm, I'm not growing any taller." This is- What, we're, we're- I'm at max capacity.
37:07
Don't read in the dark, you'll ruin your eyes.
37:09
Mm-hmm.
37:09
So we were discouraging children from reading.
37:11
Yes.
37:11
Okay.
37:12
Santa is watching you.
37:13
Oh, yeah.
37:14
Now we got the Elf on the Shelf that watches you.
37:16
Which is creepier- Yeah.
37:17
a grown man or a little elf?
37:20
Yeah.
37:21
The, oh, the elf goes tells the grown man, who's then gonna have the consequences.
37:26
No, thanks.
37:26
Yeah.
37:27
What was the most ridiculous thing that you got told?
37:33
Oh, can't swim if you've eaten.
37:35
You have to wait 30 minutes.
37:36
Yes.
37:36
That was probably the one that was like the worst in my childhood.
37:39
Yes.
37:40
Same.
37:40
Yeah.
37:41
Yeah.
37:41
And I believed it, and we honored that.
37:44
Honored it.
37:46
We did not.
37:46
We, we, yeah.
37:47
We believed it.
37:49
We just did it anyway.
37:50
Mom was right there while we were at the pool.
37:51
Same.
37:53
There's four of us.
37:54
She's chasing us.
37:55
Well, we kept up with everybody.
37:56
Y'all totally had her outnumbered.
38:00
That was the one that was probably, I believed it.
38:02
I lived that.
38:03
Yeah.
38:04
I believed it, I just And I believed the gum one, and obviously the one, the light in the car.
38:09
Yeah.
38:10
Well, I think e- all kids did,'cause we were petrified that our parents were gonna get arrested.
38:14
And then go to jail, and we'd have to go into the system.
38:16
Yeah.
38:16
And then all of a sudden it's just we're singing It's a Hard Knock Life.
38:21
All of a sudden we're all Annie.
38:22
We're all Annie, waiting for Daddy Warbucks in his helicopter.
38:26
Like it was a whole plan.
38:27
Wait, is that bad?
38:28
No, I'm just kidding.
38:30
Did your parents ever threaten to leave you, somewhere if you didn't behave?
38:34
No.
38:35
But I was really, really, really good, and my mom was way too sweet.
38:38
Yeah.
38:38
She should have.
38:39
She should...
38:40
Especially, in my teen years.
38:42
Yeah.
38:42
When I was young, no, but when I was 14, she should've left me somewhere for sure.
38:45
My sister would always hide in the clothes racks.
38:48
Mm.
38:49
To jump out or just to freak her out?
38:50
Just to freak her out.
38:51
Okay.
38:52
I would do it, too.
38:53
I would do that to, to jump out and scare her.
38:55
No, she would do it to just freak her out.
38:58
Um, so I always got put in charge of watching my older sister.
39:01
Of course.
39:03
That's funny.
39:04
if your childhood had a warning label, what would it say?
39:07
Oh my I don't know.
39:09
That's hard What do you think?
39:12
Um, don't eat the candy.
39:16
Don't eat the candy.
39:17
I really don't know.
39:18
I don't know either I think mine, mine would've been like, like don't wander off.
39:23
Like stay close.
39:23
Stranger danger was a thing.
39:24
Stranger danger, yeah, yeah.
39:25
Was a real thing.
39:27
Okay, I think that's all it is.
39:27
Do you wanna do am I the a-hole?
39:29
Yeah.
39:29
Okay.
39:30
All right, Am I the a-hole for not letting my kids stay with their grandparents as their uncle caused them to have nightmares due to scary stories?
39:37
I have a special connection to this.
39:39
Okay.
39:40
My uncle would pick me up from pre-K and kindergarten- Mm-hmm and, have me watch Freddy Krueger.
39:46
And then my brother would sit outside of my bedroom door and sing the one, two, Freddy's coming for you song.
39:50
Oh, that's terrifying.
39:52
Yeah.
39:53
Do you think your mom wrote this then?
39:55
Probably.
39:57
Nope, she didn't.
39:58
I, 40-year-old male.
39:59
Yeah.
40:00
And my partner, male, 42.
40:03
Have two children, both under four.
40:05
As a family, we're close to both sides of the family.
40:08
It's not unusual for us to leave the kids with their grandparents so we can get nights to ourselves, be it work or social reasons.
40:14
However, after a recent visit to my in-laws, both of the kids starting having nightmares about scary things that were coming to get them, et cetera.
40:22
After a few nights and conversations between me and my partner trying to work out if they'd watched anything scary or we'd watched anything that might trigger them, we drew a blank.
40:29
After talking to our eldest, we managed to piece together that my brother-in-law, who's 29, has told them scary stories.
40:36
My brother-in-law lives with his parents and has done for the past few years since his last serious relationship broke down Not broke up, broke down.
40:46
Oh, I'm sure there's some story behind that.
40:48
That says a lot right there.
40:51
"He's always been amazing with the kids and they love him.
40:54
I decided to call him and see what he had to say, as I believe my child, but also wanted to hear his side.
40:58
Long story short..." Looking at how long this is, he probably should have said long story long.
41:02
Mm..
41:02
"He said he told them about scarecrows that will walk at night and kidnap children from their beds." Oh my God.
41:10
"For the record, we live beside a field and yes, there are scarecrows in it." Oh my gosh.
41:15
And what he said, there were four and under?
41:17
Uh-huh.
41:18
"The conflict started as I asked him to tell the kids he was making these stories up and even suggested we go on a walk in the field to show them the scarecrows are just straw people wearing human clothes." I don't know if that's better.
41:28
No.
41:29
He laughs and said there was no way he's gonna do that, as kids being scared is just a part of growing up.
41:33
It's also called trauma." I mean, a little bit is okay.
41:36
I don't know.
41:36
Okay, so- That's terrifying though, Lily.
41:38
That, that's terrible.
41:39
Ne- ne- next to- Four years old next to a field?
41:40
Yeah.
41:41
Yeah.
41:41
No.
41:41
"O- obviously said he'd upset the kids and I expected him to put it right.
41:45
Well, again, he refused and we ended the call.
41:47
When I ended the call, I told my partner that"there was no way the kids were gonna stay at his parents' until this was resolved.
41:52
My partner was, and rightly so, pissed at me, said I shouldn't take it out on them that his brother is a tool.""So I told him to call his brother to fix it, and he got the same result.
42:02
As a result of this, his parents were told about the situation and explained due to my brother-in-law not willing to tell the kids he was making stuff up to scare them, the kids wouldn't be left on their own at their house if he was there.
42:14
My father-in-law is amazing, and has told him to basically tell the truth and he wants to see the kids, but my mother-in-law claims I'm overreacting.
42:20
My brother-in-law will tell the truth in time, but doesn't like being told to do things.
42:25
My kids don't want to see their uncle just now.
42:27
Actually, the more time passes, the less they wanna see him, and don't wanna go to their grandparents' as he's there.
42:33
This has been explained to my mother-in-law, who vehemently defends their uncle." But- That, that's the reason why he is the way he is uh, uh.
42:40
"My in-laws visit my house to see the kids, and we'll still go out and about, so it's not like the kids are being withheld from the grandparents.
42:46
I just won't budge until he apologizes or tells the kids the truth, but I really don't want him being left with the kids now.
42:52
Am I the a-hole for not letting the kids stay at their grandparents'?
42:56
I agree 100%, boundaries.
42:58
Yeah.
42:58
100%.
42:59
That is so young.
43:00
That is not even really started kindergarten.
43:03
Four years old.
43:03
That's pre-K.
43:04
Yeah.
43:05
Yeah.
43:05
And you're- That's Freddy Krueger age.
43:08
Yeah.
43:09
And you turned out just fine.
43:12
I don't see the problem.
43:15
The fact that the mom is like,"Well, he doesn't like to be told what to do, so he'll do it on his own time," no.
43:21
Tell him to get off of his video game,'cause I'm sure he's got a headset on- Yeah in his lair.
43:26
He's playing with gun girls.
43:27
Yes.
43:28
And he's cussing out Tristan on the World of Warcraft or whatever they play now, and get off of his rumpus and go apologize to his nephews and tell them he- Oh, my God.
43:38
That's crazy.
43:40
Yeah., Let's see.
43:41
The consensus is he is not an a-hole, and I agree.
43:44
That's terrible.
43:45
I get if they're a little bit older, doing spooky stuff.
43:48
Like I told you before, we used to mess with Jackson- Yeah and his friends when they'd spend the night and stuff.
43:51
But not at four.
43:52
No.
43:53
And not when you live next to a field.
43:55
No.
43:56
With scarecrows.
43:58
I cannot...
43:59
Jackson did have night terrors.
44:00
Yeah.
44:01
And same thing, trying to figure out exactly what was...
44:05
we didn't even watch Scooby-Doo when he was growing up.
44:06
Yeah.
44:06
Like, trying to figure out...
44:08
I can't imagine doing that stuff on purpose.
44:10
Yeah.
44:11
Anyway, not the a-hole.
44:12
No.
44:12
I hope you're not talking to him anymore.
44:14
Yeah.
44:16
Dylan didn't have night terrors, he just literally talked to ghosts.
44:19
Oh, my God.
44:21
Do you think it was a ghost in specific?
44:23
Was it somebody in your family or somebody you knew?
44:25
Well, in Tennessee we lived on a old battleground, and I would literally look in the monitor and he'd be talking to something.
44:33
And- I did not know that I've talked about this before.
44:36
I don't reme- I'm shocked all over again.
44:39
Yeah, and I would go in there, I'm like,"What are you doing?" And he was two, so you know, it's like they're- Yeah talking, but whatever.
44:44
Right.
44:44
And he said,"The man needs help," and like he'd be talking to, something.
44:49
A Union soldier?
44:51
That is insane.
44:53
And then when we moved into our house here, he was like three.
44:56
Mm-hmm.
44:57
Three or four,'cause it was Christmastime.
44:58
And, Brandon's dad had come down right before Christmas.
45:02
Mm-hmm.
45:02
And he said, I, why don't I ever see your dad?" And I said,"Well, my dad died.
45:06
He's in heaven." Mm-hmm.
45:07
And he said,"Can I see a picture?" And I took out a picture.
45:10
I had no pictures out.
45:11
He had never seen my dad before- Mm-hmm ever.
45:13
And he said,"Well, he comes to visit." And I said,"Well, can you tell him I said hi and I love him the next time you see him?" Aw.
45:21
But like around like probably five, six, He just stopped.
45:24
He had a really bad head injury too, like when this had started.
45:27
At daycare he had split his head open.
45:29
Okay.
45:30
Twice.
45:30
He had fallen at daycare and hit his head on a bookshelf.
45:34
And then probably like a week or two later the same thing had happened, so we went to two hospital visits in two weeks.
45:39
That was fun.
45:40
Yeah, how was that visit with DSS?
45:43
Well, that, no, I, I checked the accident reports through- Yeah the daycare.
45:45
Yeah.
45:45
And obviously he di- he was not in my care at the time.
45:47
Right.
45:48
So as the daycare, I am coming from work.
45:50
Yeah, but I swear to God that house was haunted anyway.
45:53
There or here?
45:54
No, there.
45:55
Uh-huh.
45:55
In Tennessee,'cause right when Dylan was born it was Christmas Day.
45:59
I was rocking Dylan in the rocking chair in his bedroom, and Mo did this like super low growl that he does when anybody was around Dylan that he didn't know.
46:07
Mm-hmm.
46:07
And he was like watching something, like going back and forth.
46:11
And whatever it was, it looked like, uh, Mo watched it go out the room, and then he laid down and he was totally fine That is crazy.
46:19
Yeah.
46:20
So 100% believe that house was haunted, or there was some kind of something.
46:24
I don't know.
46:26
Okay, a couple of things.
46:27
That's wild.
46:30
Okay.
46:31
Other than that, even if you've told me this before, I'm still totally crazy.
46:36
Like, this is crazy.
46:38
You're gonna tell me this again in a, in a year or two- Yeah and I'm probably gonna act the same way.
46:42
Have you ever seen a ghost?
46:44
No, but when my dad died, he died in April, so it was probably like a month or two later, my radio would go off and on, by itself.
46:53
Okay.
46:53
Like, in your room?
46:54
Yeah.
46:54
Okay.
46:55
And, it was like the most random times.
46:57
Mm-hmm.
46:57
And it would be really loud.
46:59
And I didn't have the volume loud when when I turned it off.
47:02
Right.
47:02
It was to the point where I wouldn't sleep in my bedroom.
47:05
I was, scared just to sleep in my bedroom.
47:08
I slept on the couch for like a year.
47:11
Mm-hmm.
47:12
So I never had any experiences like that, but I can remember, the house I grew up in, typical house built in the early'80s where your living room and your kitchen area are here, long hall, bedrooms at the end.
47:24
Mm-hmm.
47:24
And, bedroom at the end, and I can remember coming down the hall and going and trying to go into the bathroom and seeing my grandmother, who had passed, sitting in a chair.
47:33
Mm-hmm.
47:34
And I was like...
47:36
Okay.""Hi, Grandma." Yeah.
47:40
"Missed you, Nana.
47:41
Hope all is okay.
47:42
I'll be right back." Just the one time.
47:44
Never saw her again.
47:46
But that same house is the house that my mom and my dad moved into soon after, so they both lived there.
47:52
Well, he died tragically when I was young, and my mom would see him occasionally walk back and forth by this window.
47:59
And then when my sister and I got older, we had conversations that we had both also seen him- Mm walk back and forth the same window without knowing,, my mom had seen it.
48:09
Yeah.
48:09
I think Posey knew my mom had seen it.
48:11
I didn't know, and I was like,"Did you know I used to see Daddy walking by?" She was like,"Shut up." And I was like,"Yeah." And she was like, we all seen Daddy, like, walk." Yeah.
48:18
It's crazy.
48:19
Mm-hmm.
48:20
Spooky.
48:21
Yeah.
48:22
I believe in all the things.
48:23
I really do.
48:23
I know, I know.
48:24
And I wish I knew, like, a real psychic.
48:27
Like somebody that...
48:29
I don't know if I wanna, go- Like a medium?
48:31
I don't know if I would do it, though.
48:33
If you could, if you could talk to like a medium, what would be...
48:37
what would you want out of that?
48:38
Like, to talk to- I don't know if I would want to.
48:41
Mm-hmm.
48:41
My sister did it.
48:42
Mm-hmm.
48:42
And she got stuff that nobo- I mean, even if they went on her social or whatever- Yeah like, there, there's stuff that came through that nobody would know.
48:49
Mm-hmm.
48:49
Like my uncle used to take her to Arby's, before they got their, allergy shots, and so roast beef kept coming up.
48:56
That's crazy.
48:57
Yeah, it was legit.
48:58
Uh-huh.
48:58
I was, like, bawling when she was telling me this stuff.
48:59
Yeah.
49:00
Like, you know, my dad came through or whatever and, so I don't know if I am emotionally strong enough- Mm-hmm for that type of thing.
49:07
Well, I think I would be scared that, like I'm like I wanna do it, but I'd be scared that the information I got is not what I was looking for.
49:14
Yeah.
49:14
I wanna be the one to ask the questions and to know the things.
49:16
Yeah.
49:17
I don't want them to just be able to just tell me whatever they want to.
49:19
Yeah.
49:20
Yeah.
49:21
Oh, it's a control thing.
49:22
I can admit it.
49:22
Yeah.
49:23
I think, ugh, one hand, I'm like that'd be real- Like, I just wanna connect with my dad.
49:26
Yeah.
49:26
I just wanna,"Hey, you're doing really good," so.
49:29
Yeah, yeah.
49:30
I think I'm scared.
49:31
Yeah like, and I don't think that I'm emotionally strong enough- Yeah to get the messages.
49:36
I'm not.
49:37
I was bawling when my sister was telling me- Yeah her, her stuff.
49:39
So- Yeah I don't think I'm strong enough.
49:42
Yeah.
49:43
So not mature enough to talk about the S-E-X.
49:45
Nope.
49:46
And I'm not strong enough to talk to ghosts.
49:49
Or get messages.
49:51
I just think- it would, take me out for, a week.
49:53
Yeah.
49:53
I would be, like, emotionally- Drained drained for, a week.
49:56
Yeah.
49:56
I think I'd be wrecked.
49:57
I mean, I'm pretty unstable these days anyway.
50:00
Yeah.
50:00
So I think it would...
50:01
Yeah, I would be, I would be a basket case.
50:04
Yeah.
50:05
And I'm probably, looking for something to, fill, a void.
50:07
A validation- Yeah or just an appro- something.
50:10
Yeah, I've got daddy issues 100%.
50:14
Yeah.
50:15
Same.
50:16
Same.
50:17
But- I will probably end up connecting with, a relative I never knew- Yeah.
50:21
that I had nothing to do with, or something totally random, and I'm like,"This is just a waste of my time." Unless they- I'm emotional unless they tell you where the treasure's buried.
50:29
Yes.
50:30
I wanna know that.
50:30
Yeah.
50:31
Ah.
50:32
Yeah.
50:32
That would be fun We should have named our podcast Daddy Issues.
50:35
Yeah.
50:38
So many.
50:39
We could do an offshoot, it's Mess circus daddy issues.
50:42
No- Trade- Trademark, nobody say that.
50:44
That would be a, that would be the after dark version.
50:46
Yeah.
50:48
That's funny.
50:48
I think that's really cool.
50:49
Oh, gosh.
50:50
All right, So were we supposed to watch a, What were we doing?
50:52
We watched a documentary.
50:54
Obviously you didn't like it.
50:56
I made it, halfway through.
50:58
I did make it through but, like I was telling you, I get kind of distracted in these'cause I get locked in on, parts that don't matter.
51:05
Yeah.
51:06
Hyper fixate.
51:07
Yes.
51:07
Yes, surprise.
51:09
So we did Killer Legends on Prime, and it basically just talked about four legends and their origins and that kind of thing.
51:17
We kind of touched on them, and it just kind of goes through them and basically their history.
51:20
again, I didn't make it through it I don't know why.
51:22
I've been struggling lately, getting through documentaries.
51:25
I don't- Yeah.
51:26
No, it's okay they did go through, like, real true crime cases.
51:30
Right, and what the point of the documentary was, was trying to figure out, did these legends come from these things that had really happened, and then they just kind of escalated and snowballed- Okay and yes, evolved and, and other things.
51:41
For instance, the, the one we were talking about, the hook, that the hook hand came from Texarkana.
51:47
Mm-hmm.
51:48
Which was the funniest name of a city in Texas.
51:51
But that came from, truly teenagers getting killed on Lover's Lane.
51:54
Actually, they weren't all teenagers.
51:56
I did have a problem.
51:57
One girl was like 15, and the dude she was with was 29, but- Yeah it was in the'40s, and I guess that was okay then.
52:04
But it was still really gross.
52:06
But, people, on quote"Lover's Lane" were getting shot in the head.
52:10
Yeah.
52:11
So that's kind of where that triggered from.
52:13
Mm-hmm.
52:14
The other one that it talked about that I found was really interesting was the candy thing.
52:18
Yeah.
52:19
Did you get to that one?
52:20
Mm-hmm.
52:20
And I noticed when you read the thing earlier, you said that there's no recorded instances of trick-or-treaters getting treats from unidentified sources that had died.
52:31
There was the one child who did get a Pixy Stick when he was at home that his dad gave him.
52:38
His dad killed him.
52:39
But yeah, so it wasn't like he, from a random- It wasn't an unknown source.
52:42
Yeah.
52:43
Correct.
52:43
Right.
52:43
Correct.
52:44
So when you said that, I was listening, really keenly like,"How are they gonna word that?" But yeah- Yeah you're exactly right.
52:49
His dad intentionally gave it to him with cyanide in it.
52:52
And that was devastating.
52:53
Did you see the pictures?
52:55
They had pictures of the little boy sitting on the couch, right before the dad gave him the Pixy Stick- Yeah in his little creepy Planet of the Apes costume.
53:03
Ugh.
53:04
And can we talk about how horrible costumes were?
53:06
I think- They were terrifying we said this, probably three years ago, but we had the worst costumes.
53:12
The plastic mask.
53:13
I was a Smurf one year.
53:14
Yes.
53:15
And you s- were you too?
53:17
No.
53:17
Me either.
53:17
But I, like, but I had, like, a Cabbage Patch one.
53:19
Yes.
53:19
But I swear they all had the same face, and they just painted them different.
53:22
They painted them differently.
53:23
The eye holes never lined up.
53:24
No.
53:24
And they were scary, and the rubber band things- You couldn't breathe oh, they were miserable, but yeah, so it's just- And then you were in a trash bag.
53:30
You were in a trash bag.
53:31
It was a painted trash bag.
53:33
So terrible.
53:34
And our parents probably spent their last dimes on that- Yeah trying to get those for us.
53:38
Ugh.
53:39
Terrible.
53:39
They, they were scary.
53:41
But he was in Planet of the Apes, so he had, a monkey face on it.
53:45
It, it was terrible, but anyway, his dad killed him with the Pixy Stick for insurance money.
53:49
Yeah.
53:50
So that was fun.
53:52
Let's see.
53:52
There were two more.
53:53
It was the, the babysitter one.
53:56
I didn't make it this far.
53:57
Okay.
53:57
So they talked about that one, and that really, what happened there were there were two girls that were, like, babysitting two or three blocks apart, and they both got, murdered and sexually assaulted.
54:10
And so yeah, we think that's where that one came from.
54:13
Mm-hmm.
54:13
And again, that one's in, like, the'40s or'50s, too.
54:16
Yeah.
54:16
Like, all of these are so old.
54:18
God, think about that.
54:18
It's about 100 years old by now.
54:20
Yeah.
54:21
Oh.
54:22
The last one was Killer Clowns.
54:23
Oh.
54:24
Yeah.
54:25
And, um- So I'm glad I didn't make it- That's the one I didn't watch, but...
54:28
And I kind of just listened to it as they were talking about it, and they just talked about, like, John Wayne Gacy.
54:33
Mm-hmm.
54:34
I, I hate true- And, and different stories like that.
54:36
And these, these were from Chicago in the'80s, so that's what that last one was.
54:41
Clowns terrify me.
54:42
Well, they started talking about that and some of it why clowns are...
54:46
And I was listening with half an ear at this point, but do you remember, though, several years ago here- Yes the clowns?
54:53
They are lucky they didn't get shot, because let me- I know listen.
54:57
If I didn't have a heart attack prior to And if you knew how to shoot a gun.
55:00
If I knew how to...
55:01
But listen, I would've tackled.
55:03
I would've tackled.
55:04
Yeah.
55:04
And I would've bumbled.
55:06
I mean, so for those that don't know, I think it was, like, r- before 2020.
55:09
Like, our kids were- No, it was during COVID.
55:12
It was- Was it during COVID?
55:12
Yeah.
55:13
Well, it was around then.
55:14
Okay.
55:15
I knew our kids were, like, older, m- but not, mine wasn't in high school.
55:17
Yeah.
55:18
No, no, no.
55:18
But yeah, there were just clowns randomly, showing up in fields and stuff, and people were just driving by and seeing these- In, like, neighborhoods, though.
55:25
It evolved into neighborhoods.
55:27
How none of these people got shot- I know'cause a memory just keep popped up not too long ago of, like,"I need to learn how to shoot." And it was the- I've known this would have been a problem for a minute.
55:38
And it was a news article of these clowns- Yeah that were just, standing, still, just staring.
55:44
Yeah.
55:45
No.
55:46
I can't believe that somebody's stupid enough to do that.
55:48
No, they were that bored.
55:50
I guess.
55:50
But- COVID was rough, but come on now.
55:52
Oh my God.
55:54
Yeah.
55:54
That is terrifying.
55:57
Yeah.
55:57
I am so freaking scared of clowns.
56:00
I'm not scared of clowns, but- I am terrified I should be.
56:03
Like, I- Terrified they're just, they're just weird Okay, so one story that I did think was interesting, okay, and I'll try to tell it quick.
56:10
You know, circuses used to travel by train, and there was a train wreck where everybody basically just died and got incinerated, except for one.
56:17
There was one survivor that was a clown, and the rest of his life he was, like, a sad clown.
56:22
That was, you know how that some of them have the faces painted down?
56:25
And they're, like, buried in a mass grave.
56:26
What was it called?
56:27
It was the Circus Train Disaster.
56:29
It was really original.
56:30
Your face right now.
56:32
Yeah.
56:32
He's a demon.
56:33
That's the only reason he survived it.
56:38
Okay, let's stop.
56:40
We've transitioned.
56:44
He was just a sad clown.
56:45
He's a demon.
56:47
There's no other reason that He lived through an incineration.
56:50
Well, yeah.
56:52
Yeah, you're probably right.
56:54
Okay.
56:54
All right, that's it.
56:55
So happy Halloween everybody.
56:58
Next week we're starting, some Thanksgiving- We're gonna do some family drama.
57:01
Yeah.
57:02
All month all month for just family drama, and not just our own either.
57:06
Not our own.
57:07
Lord knows there's enough.
57:08
There's plenty.
57:10
next week we're gonna be doing Family Secrets Week.
57:12
Yes.
57:12
So we will be reading The Family Upstairs- Yep by Lisa Jewell.
57:16
It, yep.
57:17
Um, so we're going back to books.
57:19
We'll see if that catches our attention a little bit more.
57:21
Yeah.
57:22
So, come back for some family drama next week.
57:25
Not ours.
57:26
Not ours.
57:27
I mean, we'll probably tell you some anyway, but- Yeah.
57:30
Yeah.
57:31
Oversharing.
57:33
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57:33
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57:33
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57:35
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