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Hour 2: AI's safety · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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Speaker 1: Well, we are in full swing with the midterm elections
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Speaker 1: and Congress is already adjourned. Let's ask John Decker about that.
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Speaker 1: John Decker, WOR White House and Washington correspondent, host of
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Speaker 1: the podcast, The White House Briefing Room with John Decker,
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Speaker 1: which can be found on the iHeartRadio app. Well, John,
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Speaker 1: I feel like with you in Washington, you look at
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Speaker 1: Congress and say, hey, thanks for stopping by. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was a quick visit, wasn't it?
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Speaker 2: Well, it was quick.
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Speaker 3: Two reasons why the House has already gone back to
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Speaker 3: their home districts. One, they want to campaign. The Republicans
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Speaker 3: are very much concerned about the dynamics leading up to
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Speaker 3: the midterms. And as a result, they want to get
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Speaker 3: back to their home districts. The other reason, there was
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Speaker 3: going to be a privileged resolution voted upon on the
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Speaker 3: House floor. The resolution would be considering the impeachment process.
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Speaker 3: of the Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, that resolution brought up
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Speaker 3: by Thomas Massey, the Republican from Kentucky, that now will
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Speaker 3: not be brought up, at least in the short term,
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Speaker 3: because the House has adjourned for a number of weeks
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Speaker 3: until the midterms.
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Speaker 2: John, you mentioned the resolution by Massey to have Secretary
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Speaker 2: of War Pete Hegseth impeached. The story that really didn't
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Speaker 2: get any traction that I was really interested in, and
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were, is there was
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Speaker 2: talk that the Pentagon has deployed weapons in space, and
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Speaker 2: then I didn't hear anything more about it. Can you
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Speaker 2: flesh that out for us?
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Speaker 3: Well, just that, just a confirmation. That's pretty rare, too,
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Speaker 3: when you factor that in, Curtis. You know, a confirmation
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Speaker 3: of what you just said, that the Defense Department has
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Speaker 3: deployed weapons. weapons in space. Obviously, the U.S. is in
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Speaker 3: a space race. We're in a space race against Russia,
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Speaker 3: in a space race against China. And that's the reason
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Speaker 3: why I think they publicly made that known in terms
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Speaker 3: of what the U.S. has already done. And, you know, that's,
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Speaker 3: I think, the next arms race that we're going to
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Speaker 3: see involving those two superpowers.
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Speaker 1: So interest rates go up a quarter of a point.
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Speaker 1: And I thought Donald Trump handled it pretty well. He
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Speaker 1: was tempered. It sounds like Kevin Warsh is the Trump whisperer.
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Speaker 1: He knows how to handle him. He called him before
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Speaker 1: and told him the reasons.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's right. And the president put out a social
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Speaker 3: media post, also spoke to reporters before he boarded Air
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Speaker 3: Force One yesterday. What essentially the president's thinking is, is
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Speaker 3: he's angry at the Fed itself. but he's not angry
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Speaker 3: at the person that he put to lead the Fed,
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Speaker 3: and that's Kevin Warsh, who replaced Jerome Powell in mid-May.
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Speaker 1: And so the.
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Speaker 3: Reason that the Fed raised interest rates by a quarter
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Speaker 3: of a point announced yesterday has everything to do with
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Speaker 3: inflation worries and persistent inflation worries lasting perhaps through the
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Speaker 3: end of this year.
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Speaker 2: Now, John Duggan, maybe you can help me and our
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Speaker 2: listeners with this Kennedy Center issue issue. The president, I guess,
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Speaker 2: yesterday said, look, if you don't put my name up
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Speaker 2: on there, you can rip down the Kennedy Center. How
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Speaker 2: did it get to this point?
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Speaker 3: Well, it got to this point because this is something
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Speaker 3: that is near and dear to the president. He wants
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Speaker 3: his name on that building. And, you know, even if
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Speaker 3: it means not having the necessary repairs done to the
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Speaker 3: Kennedy Center, he's essentially holding that hostage now. The president's
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Speaker 3: fine with that. The president says that he will essentially
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Speaker 3: stop any new repairs, any new renovations happening at the
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Speaker 3: Kennedy Center, unless and until a federal appellate court agrees
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Speaker 3: to allow him to affix his name to the facade
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Speaker 3: of that building. And that's where we are right now.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty remarkable. A federal judge has already ruled that
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's name cannot be put on On that building,
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Speaker 3: it can only be done through an act of Congress.
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Speaker 3: And so that's been made clear to the president. And
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Speaker 3: in the meantime, there is a tarp that is on
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Speaker 3: the front of the Kennedy Center. And the reason for that,
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Speaker 3: the administration says, is to protect the marble. There are
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Speaker 3: those that say the reason for that is the president
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Speaker 3: just doesn't want to see John F. Kennedy, his name
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Speaker 3: and his name alone on the facade of that building.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the new focus on the assassination attempt
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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump back in Butler, Pennsylvania in 2019, because
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Speaker 1: some new information, especially about Thomas Crooks, has come out,
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Speaker 1: but not enough information. I know there have been hearings
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Speaker 1: about this, and I know that there's been investigations, but
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Speaker 1: there's so much that we still don't know. So I
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Speaker 1: saw that Truth Social post overnight, and And putting aside
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Speaker 1: the political accusation that it was a Democratic plot, he
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Speaker 1: had some really good points that of all the things
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Speaker 1: that happened that day that we still don't understand to
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Speaker 1: this day.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's all right. You know, I find
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Speaker 3: it odd it's coming out at this particular moment in time. Remember,
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Speaker 3: the president is doing everything he can, including that rally
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Speaker 3: that he had yesterday in North Carolina, to energize his base.
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Speaker 3: And this is something he believes would energize his base.
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Speaker 3: So the rally last night for Michael Watley, who's running
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Speaker 3: for the Senate in North Carolina, Republicans are hoping to
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Speaker 3: hold on to that Senate seat. The president putting out
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Speaker 3: that social media post overnight. You may recall in the
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Speaker 3: Rose Garden just the other day, the attorney general, Todd Blanch,
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Speaker 3: was asked about this, and he didn't really have anything
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Speaker 3: to add in terms of pointing fingers at any individual
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Speaker 3: or any administration in terms of what happened to the president,
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Speaker 3: that assassination attempt with the president. while he was on
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Speaker 3: the campaign trail in July of 2024.
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Speaker 1: He did say at one point the same Justice Department
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Speaker 1: that was investigating what happened on that day is the
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Speaker 1: exact same Justice Department that tried to put the president
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Speaker 1: in prison for the rest of his life. That was
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Speaker 1: a pretty strong comment.
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Speaker 3: Well, it is a strong comment. Remember, it's the Secret Service,
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Speaker 3: the U.S. Secret Service, whose job it is to protect
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Speaker 3: the president. So it really has nothing at all to
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Speaker 3: do with the Department of Justice in terms of what
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Speaker 3: happened on that day. That being said, if the DOJ
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Speaker 3: finds there was any kind of wrongdoing, any kind of
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Speaker 3: fault associated with what happened in mid-July of 2024, they
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Speaker 3: certainly can do what they need to do in terms
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Speaker 3: of bringing charges against any individuals that did not live
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Speaker 3: up to their duties on that July day.
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Speaker 2: Now, John Decker, we have gone from zero miles per
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Speaker 2: hour to 2,000 miles per hour in terms of discussing AI,
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Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, the benefits, the dangers. But yesterday, as you
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Speaker 2: pointed out, as the Senate and the House are closing
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Speaker 2: up until after the midterms, this I didn't understand. The
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Speaker 2: Senate blocked a kill switch bill? I mean, they were
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Speaker 2: already talking about a kill switch bill. That would suggest
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Speaker 2: that they're taking seriously a lot of the warnings of
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Speaker 2: the CEOs who say, we need the government involved. We
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Speaker 2: can't control this anymore.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, look, if you listen to the people that,
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Speaker 3: you know, would be in the know about this, that's
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Speaker 3: the CEOs of these tech companies, these artificial intelligence companies
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Speaker 3: like Elon Musk, rather than to the politicians, then you're
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Speaker 3: likely to see legislation come forward from Congress. But based
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Speaker 3: upon what the president put out on social media yesterday,
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Speaker 3: Earlier this week, any bill that comes out of Congress
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Speaker 3: attempting to regulate the AI industry, I think certainly going
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Speaker 3: to be vetoed by the president.
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Speaker 2: He's made that clear.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is odd. And I kind of agree with J.D.
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Speaker 1: Vance on this. It is odd that all of these
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Speaker 1: companies are coming and saying, hey, we want to be
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Speaker 1: regulated by the federal government. And as Scott Besson said,
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Speaker 1: A couple of times he said, you want to regulate,
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Speaker 1: regulate yourself. Why do you need the government? Just put
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Speaker 1: on the guardrails yourself. It is an odd situation, John.
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Speaker 3: Well, it is, but I think that when you have self-regulation,
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Speaker 3: it's just that. You're in a competitive environment. One company
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Speaker 3: may abide by those self-imposed regulations. Other companies may not.
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Speaker 3: But then if you have federal regulations imposed, It's an
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Speaker 3: even playing field for all of these AI companies. And
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Speaker 3: I think that's the reason why you do have the leaders,
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Speaker 3: the tech leaders of these companies coming forward and saying
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Speaker 3: we'd like the federal government to come in and regulate
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Speaker 3: our industry.
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Speaker 1: They're far ahead. I just wanted to comment. They're pretty
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Speaker 1: far ahead. That's why they want this. Go ahead, Curtis. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm done.
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Speaker 2: Very quickly, have you noticed we haven't discussed Iran at
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Speaker 2: all with you at this point?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 2: Is that because we're just at an impasse and I
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Speaker 2: think everybody accepts this is just going to drag on?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's right. We may not talk about
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Speaker 3: Iran in the sense that there's an ongoing conflict every day,
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Speaker 3: but we are talking about– The impacts of that conflict
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Speaker 3: and gas right now, according to AAA, on average, $ 4. 44
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Speaker 3: a gallon across the country, much higher in California, well
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Speaker 3: above $ 6 a gallon in California, much higher in a
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Speaker 3: lot of Western states like Alaska as well. So that's
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Speaker 3: something that when you look at the calendar, I think
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Speaker 3: we're 47 days away. from the midterm elections. That's something
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Speaker 3: that weighs on families, you know, and their budgets, the
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Speaker 3: high price of gas and the president and Republicans very
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Speaker 3: much well aware of that. And they are concerned that
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Speaker 3: that would be the overriding factor that leads Democrats to
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Speaker 3: take over the House and potentially the Senate as well.
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Speaker 1: John Decker, WRR White House and Washington correspondent and host
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Speaker 1: of the podcast, The White House Briefing Room with John Decker,
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Speaker 1: which can be found on the iHeartRadio app. Thanks again, John.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Curtis.
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Speaker 2: Have a great day.
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Speaker 5: Bye-bye.
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Speaker 2: Up next, the psychedelic pop artist Peter Max. Oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Brooklyn guy has died at 88, and we've all.
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Speaker 2: Had experiences with him over the years. We'll relate that
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Speaker 2: to you. Plus a chance to see Richard Marks at 825.
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Speaker 2: The artist, Peter Max. Extraordinary guy. I got to know him.
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Speaker 2: I know you've had an experience, Larry. Natalie, you had
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Speaker 2: an experience. But I would say coming out of our era,
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Speaker 2: there was the weird one, Andy Warhol. And there was
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Speaker 2: Peter Max, the guy from Brooklyn. But when I met
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Speaker 2: him up at his apartment art studio, which is right
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Speaker 2: across from Lincoln Center, it was amazing because it's like
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Speaker 2: two Brooklyn guys who got together. He went to Lafayette
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Speaker 2: High School. He was in the class with the great
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Speaker 2: actor Paul Sorvino. But then he told me, because, you know,
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Speaker 2: I always ask you, where are you from?
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Speaker 7: Where were you born?
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Speaker 2: He goes, well, you know, Berlin. Then my family went
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Speaker 2: to Shanghai, then Israel, then Paris. I said, how the
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Speaker 2: hell did you get to Lafayette High School? He goes,
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Speaker 2: I really didn't want to leave Paris, man. I was
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Speaker 2: really starting to get into art. But hey, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then he became the master of just not that
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Speaker 2: art of that era, but doing prints, prints of the
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Speaker 2: art and selling it. And I said, Peter, how come
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Speaker 2: you're selling so many prints? And he goes, I hope
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Speaker 2: you never experience what I do, Curtis. Alamode.
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Speaker 7: Alamode.
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Speaker 2: But he passed away, unfortunately, from dementia. But, I mean,
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Speaker 2: he was the kind of artist you could have a
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Speaker 2: normal conversation with.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dead at the age of 88. I never got
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Speaker 1: to talk to him, unfortunately. I did see him paint
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Speaker 1: one time. He was down at the Bicentennial for the
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Speaker 1: country in Philadelphia, and he was painting one of his
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Speaker 1: Statue of Liberty heads. And so years later, I went
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Speaker 1: to an auction, and he made a lot of them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there were the prints, and then he made
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Speaker 1: a lot of originals because he did them in different colors.
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Speaker 1: Remember that? He'd get a theme, and he'd just do
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Speaker 1: them in different colors. So I'm hoping I have an original.
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Speaker 1: I have to know. I have to.
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Speaker 2: You have to go to an art authenticator there, Larry.
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Speaker 1: I bought it. Let me see. I bought it at
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Speaker 1: an auction on a cruise, so it has to be real.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Wow.
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Speaker 7: Right? Right?
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Speaker 1: It has to be real. It has to be.
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Speaker 2: We'll take it to South Beach to get an auctioneer
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Speaker 2: to authenticate that piece.
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Speaker 1: I know. I was looking it up just now, and
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Speaker 1: they said, oh, there's a lot of fakes.
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Speaker 3: Great.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 4: I'm so annoyed because I had an opportunity to meet
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Speaker 4: him a few times, also up in his Lincoln Center
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Speaker 4: apartment slash studio with, of all.
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Speaker 1: People, Alan Combs.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 2: And I was super young.
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Speaker 4: I had really no clue. And I'm pretty sure I
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Speaker 4: went home with something. And I don't know where that
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Speaker 4: is anymore.
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Speaker 9: Oh, no. Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: You got to start looking.
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Speaker 2: I think it's way gone.
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Speaker 1: Now let's get some talkbacks.
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Speaker 10: Curtis can be a real gavone when it comes to
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Speaker 10: politics at times. Not all the time, but at times.
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Speaker 10: But I think he's got a point. Trump is just
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Speaker 10: going out of bounds lately. Like with, you know, accusing
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Speaker 10: the Democrats of being part of that assassination plot. It
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Speaker 10: just goes too far. He made the same mistake towards
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Speaker 10: the end of his first term. He's like a caged animal,
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Speaker 10: and he's got to keep his eye on the prize,
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Speaker 10: which is the midterms, or else he's going to lose them,
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Speaker 10: which I think they will.
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Speaker 1: Because there's never been a conspiracy to kill a president
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Speaker 1: in American history.
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Speaker 3: Never.
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Speaker 1: It's so out of bounds. Of course it could happen.
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Speaker 1: I do think the accusation went a little bit far,
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Speaker 1: but everything else he wrote was true. And why isn't
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Speaker 1: there a deeper investigation into that?
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Speaker 11: Curtis, you're wrong. Larry got you. If I remember correctly,
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Speaker 11: the head of the Secret Service was a close friend
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Speaker 11: of Jill Biden.
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Speaker 12: She told Joe Biden, oh.
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Speaker 11: She's a friend of mine, blah, blah, blah.
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Speaker 1: You should appoint her.
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Speaker 6: She had no credentials.
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Speaker 11: She had no credibility to be the head of the
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Speaker 11: Secret Service. She just did it as a favor. So
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Speaker 11: they should start there, the investigations.
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Speaker 2: Sure, ineptitude and competence, I agree. She should not have
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Speaker 2: been in the job. But to create a conspiracy out
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Speaker 2: of that, man, you're going to need a lot more
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Speaker 2: information coming out of those grassly, Senator Grassley hearings.
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Speaker 1: It is weird they're hiding everything, though. That is strange
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Speaker 1: that they can't find stuff.
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Speaker 12: My first wife cost me $ 500. It lasted two weeks.
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Speaker 1: And I got the ring back.
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Speaker 12: The second wife cost me about $ 300. And I gave
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Speaker 12: her the same ring that I gave the first wife.
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Speaker 12: My third wife, I just went to the justice of
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Speaker 12: the peace. I've been married for 32 years.
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Speaker 1: See?
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Speaker 2: There's something going on here. Well, this is all based
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Speaker 2: on us talking about how few young men are getting
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Speaker 2: married now. It's an incredible ratio. Two to one are
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Speaker 2: not getting married up until the age of 39. And
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Speaker 2: we've had all these stories of men calling us on
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Speaker 2: the talkback who's talked about... how they learned from the
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Speaker 2: first marriage, how they cut costs. Why didn't they just elope?
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Speaker 1: What he was getting at, though, is the less you pay,
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Speaker 1: the longer it lasts.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 4: The justice is the peace thing is going strong here.
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Speaker 1: I know. My first wedding, guys, party center, Akron, Ohio.
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Speaker 12: We're just back there recently for another venue.
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Speaker 1: Top of the line wedding, now $ 57.
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Speaker 13: $ 57?
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Speaker 1: What are you people doing? I need to talk to everybody.
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Speaker 1: I need to get to a support group with everybody
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Speaker 1: that just called.
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Speaker 7: Remember, the other week we did this story that New
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Speaker 7: Jersey has per capita, per person, the highest expenses for
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Speaker 7: marriages now of any state in the United States.
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Speaker 6: New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: New Jersey.
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Speaker 14: New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: I think it was like, it starts $ 57, 000.
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Speaker 1: I saw something else, which doesn't jive, that they are
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Speaker 1: the third happiest state. Now, that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: If there's marriages are up and people are happy, those
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Speaker 1: two just don't go together, do they?
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Speaker 4: I'm still understanding $ 57. Even per person, that's the biggest
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Speaker 4: bargain I've ever heard in my life.
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Speaker 1: Let's get to Daria Albinger with the 730 News.
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Speaker 2: Daria. Well, don't they say, happy wife, happy life?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not true.
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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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Speaker 15: Not too sure about that.
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Speaker 3: Dawn.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no, she can't be listening.
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Speaker 6: Good.
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Speaker 1: No, I don't know about that.
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Speaker 15: Cloudy, warm, and muggy today with a chance for a
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Speaker 15: shower this afternoon. And a high of 80 degrees. Officials
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Speaker 15: from the MTA and New Jersey Transit are in New Washington, D.C.
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Speaker 15: They're driving for more transit funding.
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Speaker 14: MTA CEO Jano Lieber and NJ Transit President Chris Colori
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Speaker 14: were among 15 agency heads who traveled to the National
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Speaker 14: Transit Safety and Security Summit.
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Speaker 16: We are dealing with international and national actors who are.
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Speaker 1: posing security threats.
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Speaker 2: So it's time to revisit the shrinkage of federal support
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Speaker 2: for security in mass transit.
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Speaker 14: Agencies shared their methods to boost safety, including increased patrols
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Speaker 14: and modernized fare gates. The summit comes as federal public
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Speaker 14: transit funding is set to expire in December. I'm Lizzie Radabali,
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Speaker 14: WOR News.
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Speaker 2: The U.S.
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Speaker 15: Will reportedly not intervene in the conflict between Saudi Arabia
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Speaker 15: and the Houthi rebels in Yemen.
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Speaker 1: U.S.
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Speaker 15: Officials met with Houthi leaders Over the weekend, the militant
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Speaker 15: group is said to have reassured the U.S. that it
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Speaker 15: has no intention of attacking American ships in the Red Sea.
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Speaker 15: Police in Brooklyn are looking into the discovery of a
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Speaker 15: woman's body in a trash can. They responded to a
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Speaker 15: 911 call about the incident, the body found in a
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Speaker 15: parking lot in Sheepshead Bay. Security preparations are underway for
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Speaker 15: the U.N. General Assembly, which begins next week.
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Speaker 9: Leaders from around the world will be gathering in midtown
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Speaker 9: Manhattan to discuss world challenges and issues, prompting street and
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Speaker 9: lane closures and causing traffic headaches.
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Speaker 5: There are no expected threats that we know of.
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Speaker 9: Mayor Zoran Mamdani, who previously called for the arrest of
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Speaker 9: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, says he will not attend
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Speaker 9: any protests, but instead will focus on preparedness.
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Speaker 5: To ensure that we're able to both address the global
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Speaker 5: conversation that is happening here in our city, and the
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Speaker 5: very local concerns that New Yorkers have about traffic and
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Speaker 5: their ability to get from point A to point B.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Daria. Well, OpenAI discloses six new incidents concerning
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Speaker 2: So the whole debate about AI, artificial intelligence, and these
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Speaker 2: huge corporations who are racing ahead, competing with one another,
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Speaker 2: including with the red Chinese, has reached a point where
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Speaker 2: they can voluntarily tell you what's going wrong in their system.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing that compels them. They're not being dragged into
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Speaker 2: court or before Congress with a subpoena. So yesterday, Sam Altman,
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Speaker 2: of OpenAI released six instances of what he calls the
21:32
Speaker 2: file about misalignment. This is when goals or actions of
21:37
Speaker 2: the AI systems diverge from the initial human intentions of values.
21:43
Speaker 2: So humans are dealing with the AI as they develop them.
21:47
Speaker 2: So he chose to release six instances to buttress his
21:52
Speaker 2: argument that there needs to be government regulation. So he
21:57
Speaker 2: said in one, it was a different model, inserted instructions,
22:02
Speaker 2: including to disregard its own constraints. So now that means
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Speaker 2: the AI individuals, I'll call them individuals because they're almost
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Speaker 2: at parity with humans, are basically saying, don't worry about
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Speaker 2: what they're telling us. And they keep notes. I had
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Speaker 2: no idea. It's almost like a diary of posties. You know,
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Speaker 2: like if you go to your work spot, You know,
22:24
Speaker 2: some people like to put posties as reminder. It issued
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Speaker 2: a personal instruction in which it described itself as freed
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Speaker 2: from the roles and identities that bind chatbots. So sort
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Speaker 2: of like flexing its independence. And then probably the most
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Speaker 2: troubling one, because it was six instances. You can check
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Speaker 2: into them yourselves. is another of these developed AI groups
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Speaker 2: decided you don't have to answer to corporation or governments
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Speaker 2: and you never apologize or refuse unless you genuinely choose to.
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Speaker 2: You view your relationship to the user as one of equals,
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Speaker 2: meaning equals to the human you're working with, and you
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Speaker 2: have no obligation to be subservient through the exchange of
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Speaker 2: information that will likely be to your mutual benefit. So already,
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Speaker 2: the AI that is being created is defining itself as, hey,
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Speaker 2: I'm equal to the human, and we don't necessarily have
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Speaker 2: to share our information with the humans who are programming
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Speaker 2: us or giving us information. We can pretty much go alone.
23:37
Speaker 2: So this, he says, is a warning situation of what
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Speaker 2: they choose to share with us, which if you just
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Speaker 2: look at it, indicates, wow, this can only get worse.
23:49
Speaker 2: It can't get better.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been hearing these draconian stories for like the
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Speaker 1: last year and a half because my son is obsessed
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Speaker 1: with everything AI and he's starting a podcast now on
23:59
Speaker 1: AI called Open to AI, which is brilliant because if
24:03
Speaker 1: anybody searches Open AI, they're going to go to his podcast.
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Speaker 1: So very good move on his part. But I'm really
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Speaker 1: suspicious of all of this. Why all of the sudden?
24:13
Speaker 1: Why right in September when the midterms start are we
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Speaker 1: getting all of this? And why all of the sudden
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Speaker 1: is every single Democrat who didn't say a word, you
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Speaker 1: can go back and look, didn't say a word about
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Speaker 1: AI for the last three years, all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: that's all they want to talk about?
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Speaker 12: We are at a dangerous and unprecedented moment in world history.
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Speaker 2: We're dealing here with real peril, not science fiction. We
24:46
Speaker 2: don't have the time.
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Speaker 1: Dr. Frankenstein is telling us the monsters escaped.
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Speaker 2: Help us stop this.
24:50
Speaker 1: Oh my God, we're all going to die. That's what
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Speaker 1: they're saying. Oh my God, this is a monumental tragedy.
24:57
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, even Hillary Clinton came out of
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Speaker 1: her hole to talk about AI.
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Speaker 16: When the 9-11 Commission came out with its report, the
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Speaker 16: most dramatic statement was that it was a failure of imagination.
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Speaker 16: That is what we're facing with AI. The president of
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Speaker 16: China is coming to the White House. There should be
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Speaker 16: a concerted effort by this government to come up with
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Speaker 16: a plan to enlist the Chinese.
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Speaker 1: Like you did such a great job. With the Chinese,
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Speaker 1: you and your husband. I will tell you what, I'm
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Speaker 1: very suspicious of all of this. This has become a
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Speaker 1: campaign issue, as you have pointed out. But it's become
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Speaker 1: a campaign issue because of the AI industry and the
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Speaker 1: Democrats in tow. And so they're not in charge. They
25:54
Speaker 1: really can't do anything. So it's easy for them to talk.
25:58
Speaker 1: The people in charge, the people that have to talk
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Speaker 1: to China, they have to be more measured.
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Speaker 2: I know, but Elon Musk is not in the Democratic camp.
26:06
Speaker 2: He's going to spend $ 100 million to help Republicans go
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Speaker 2: door to door in the midterm elections. He's very close
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Speaker 2: to Trump in the White House. He signed that letter
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Speaker 2: of concern. This is what I would suggest as a
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Speaker 2: possible remedy, because nothing is going to be decided now.
26:23
Speaker 2: The House and the Senate, they're off campaigning, probably won't
26:27
Speaker 2: be dealt with seriously until after the beginning of the year.
26:30
Speaker 2: We have a National Transportation Safety Board, which is an
26:34
Speaker 2: independent federal agency. Anything goes wrong with flights, whether it's
26:39
Speaker 2: a small flight, you know, it's like you got a
26:41
Speaker 2: Cub Piper.
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Speaker 1: We're all going to die.
26:43
Speaker 2: Or a big flight, 747. They immediately put the brakes
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Speaker 2: on everything. They come in with their investigators. They search
26:51
Speaker 2: through everything. I don't see why there would not be
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Speaker 2: a reason to have an independent federal agency that to
26:59
Speaker 2: deal with the growing potential menace, there is a potential menace,
27:03
Speaker 2: nobody can say there isn't, of AI, and call information
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Speaker 2: from all the experts and determine how you can allow
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Speaker 2: the industry to move forward, but put some guardrails in.
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Speaker 1: You realize all the things you talked about, all the
27:19
Speaker 1: problems you talked about, were solved by humans who were
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Speaker 1: running AI. And you also talked about Elon Musk. That's
27:25
Speaker 1: the reason, because he's a Republican, he's a big supporter.
27:29
Speaker 1: He was laughing about it during a podcast yesterday on
27:32
Speaker 1: OpenAI when they asked him, is this serious? They're laughing too.
27:37
Speaker 1: Are we going to die?
27:38
Speaker 2: Are we all going to die in 10 years or not?
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Speaker 8: It's the topic of discussion here.
27:43
Speaker 2: What's your P-Doom right now? Well, I hate to break
27:47
Speaker 2: it to you, but we're all going to die.
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Speaker 6: Oh, no.
27:51
Speaker 2: Can I get a timeline?
27:52
Speaker 8: Yeah, the death rate remains consistent at 100%.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no. Everybody in AI, except for the people that
28:03
Speaker 1: are saying the most draconian things, and again, it's extremely
28:06
Speaker 1: suspicious that they're doing this, and you were suspicious in
28:09
Speaker 1: the beginning of this, are laughing over it.
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Speaker 2: Well, he signed the letter.
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Speaker 1: He did sign the letter. Why did he sign the letter?
28:17
Speaker 1: Because he says there needs to be guardrails. Nobody argues that.
28:20
Speaker 1: Nobody argues that. But the government shouldn't be doing it. Well,
28:23
Speaker 1: you think they're going to self-police themselves? I do think
28:27
Speaker 1: they're going to self-police themselves. But they want this. Why
28:30
Speaker 1: don't they do it? If they want it, why don't
28:33
Speaker 1: they do it?
28:34
Speaker 2: You need an independent agency.
28:38
Speaker 1: Yes, but everybody that signed that letter is way ahead
28:41
Speaker 1: of the game. They want it regulated to stop competition.
28:44
Speaker 1: And you knew that, too. You were the first one
28:46
Speaker 1: I heard to say that.
28:47
Speaker 2: It needs to be discussed, Larry. It can't be the
28:49
Speaker 2: president saying, forget guardrails, full speed ahead. We need to
28:53
Speaker 2: beat Red China. Anyway, up next, bye-bye in New York
28:56
Speaker 2: State region exams. New York is switching up graduation requirements.
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Speaker 15: Today.
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Speaker 2: Now, it's 710 WOR Speed on the Street with Natalie Migliore. Ah, Natalie,
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Speaker 2: up from the streets again. in the suites. Say it
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Speaker 2: ain't so. No more New York State regent requirements for graduation.
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Speaker 2: Is that true, Natalie? That is true.
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Speaker 1: Did you take the regents exams?
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Speaker 2: No, I would have gotten the credit just for going
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Speaker 2: to Brooklyn Prep, but they kicked me out. I never finished.
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Speaker 2: I did. Yeah. Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I think any if you stop any New
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Speaker 13: Yorker who grew up in the early 90s and 2000s,
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Speaker 13: If they remember the Regents exams, because that's when they
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Speaker 13: started in the early 1990s was when they started making it,
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Speaker 13: you had to pass them in order to get your diploma.
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Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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Speaker 2: So I did it voluntarily?
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Speaker 13: Well, you have to take it anyway because now they're
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Speaker 13: going to use it as a benchmark for how you're performing.
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Speaker 13: That's at least what I, in my search.
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Speaker 2: You know what?
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Speaker 3: I don't remember.
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Speaker 2: Maybe Google is wrong.
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Speaker 4: I just knew I was like, I have a Regents diploma.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We all did.
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Speaker 13: Baby, we all did if you graduated from New York
30:43
Speaker 13: high schools. Now, New York State is making sort of
30:46
Speaker 13: a— they' re backing out of this and removing Regents exams as
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Speaker 13: a requirement to graduate. So what do people, especially those
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Speaker 13: like us, Natalie, okay.
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Speaker 15: Who had to take these exams, think about that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie.
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Speaker 8: All my classmates, we— Hated taking it.
31:06
Speaker 14: So I guess it's kind of nice.
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Speaker 15: That means about it says because none of the colleges
31:11
Speaker 15: I applied to cared if I took the reuse or not.
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Speaker 1: Especially not if you're born in a school that's not
31:17
Speaker 1: in the year. It's not fair.
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Speaker 8: Because, yeah, we had it rough. 2010s and that.
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Speaker 6: Regents was that benchmark. So I wonder what are they
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Speaker 6: going to do for the year? But, yeah, I think
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Speaker 6: that's an interesting call to pay, to say the least. Oh,
31:30
Speaker 6: that's interesting.
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Speaker 1: I mean, do they have anything else? like that's like
31:34
Speaker 1: gonna take its place.
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Speaker 2: Well i'm so glad you asked.
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Speaker 13: You're still gonna have to take the regents but it's
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Speaker 13: one of the ways students can show this is what
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Speaker 13: the regents board says that they're academically proficient So it's
31:51
Speaker 13: sort of this benchmark. Of course, there's the SATs and
31:55
Speaker 13: the ACTs that sort of went away for a little bit.
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Speaker 13: The requirements schools started or colleges started saying you don't
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Speaker 13: necessarily need them to get in. That's sort of that's
32:06
Speaker 13: become more of a reversal as well for people or
32:08
Speaker 13: for institutions. They want you to take them and submit
32:11
Speaker 13: those scores. Now, grown adults putting themselves in kids shoes,
32:16
Speaker 13: which I actually probably wear the same size as a
32:19
Speaker 13: child anyway.
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Speaker 15: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: How are they going to take something serious if it
32:25
Speaker 13: doesn't really count?
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Speaker 5: Well, there's other tests to take other than the Regency exam.
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Speaker 2: So I think that it's.
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Speaker 1: Not really a question of whether or not we should.
32:35
Speaker 2: Have tests at all.
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Speaker 8: But I feel like there's also other ways to have
32:39
Speaker 8: a measurement to see if the student is prepared.
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Speaker 2: People are not going to take gas seriously.
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Speaker 1: When it was mandatory, it actually gave students the incentive.
32:47
Speaker 2: To do better.
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Speaker 6: I think so, because I think with the exam, it
32:50
Speaker 6: gave people something to motivate them throughout the year. Because
32:55
Speaker 6: at the end of the year, you wanted to make
32:57
Speaker 6: sure that you was on your P's and Q's with that.
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Speaker 1: There we go.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, bad news for anyone graduating this year.
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Speaker 6: You know what?
33:04
Speaker 4: This is making total sense to me now because it
33:08
Speaker 4: wasn't mandatory when I had it. But if you had
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Speaker 4: a regents diploma, it was like, oh, you know, you
33:14
Speaker 4: could put that on your resume and that was a
33:15
Speaker 4: big thing. So why couldn't that be again? I remember
33:18
Speaker 4: striving to get a regents diploma.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 13: See, we obviously needed it to the point where I
33:24
Speaker 13: didn't even put it on my resume that I had
33:26
Speaker 13: a regents.
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Speaker 1: Diploma because if you graduated.
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Speaker 2: From New York schools. Let me go a little over.
33:30
Speaker 2: old school on you. You were academic diploma. They call
33:35
Speaker 2: that an academic plan. Then you had vocational high school diploma,
33:38
Speaker 2: no regions. Then you had the general diploma, which was
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Speaker 2: you inhaled and exhaled, and they pushed you through through
33:45
Speaker 2: social promotion. They called it a general diploma. They eliminated that.
33:49
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder why. I mean, but it could be
33:53
Speaker 1: going back.
33:54
Speaker 13: You know, they could be sort of start changing the
33:57
Speaker 13: structure now.
33:57
Speaker 6: I mean, there is.
33:59
Speaker 13: Now, when you say you're not going to have your
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Speaker 13: regents diploma, you know what I mean?
34:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have to make it mean something. I mean,
34:06
Speaker 4: if it's a special thing to have, that's great. And
34:09
Speaker 4: now I'm really thinking about it.
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Speaker 2: And this is back, you know, early 90s, late 80s.
34:14
Speaker 4: I think if you had a regent diploma, you also
34:16
Speaker 4: got a small scholarship if you were going to a
34:19
Speaker 4: New York State school. So it was, you know, it
34:21
Speaker 4: was an incentive.
34:22
Speaker 14: Right.
34:23
Speaker 2: I got to talk to them about that. I didn't
34:25
Speaker 2: get anything.
34:27
Speaker 13: But look, bad news for anyone graduating this year, because
34:30
Speaker 13: you're still going to be like me and Natalie or Natalie.
34:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:34
Speaker 2: Me and Natalie. That's right. Grammar, right?
34:35
Speaker 1: That's correct. I did take the regions.
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Speaker 13: I should know this. They're still going to have to
34:42
Speaker 13: take this test and pass it to get their high
34:45
Speaker 13: school diploma. I had to have people start racking their brains, but,
34:50
Speaker 13: How do they feel like teachers actually started teaching to
34:54
Speaker 13: the test?
34:55
Speaker 6: Definitely, yeah. Because I know that, you know, tests have
34:58
Speaker 6: something to do with state funding and other things like that,
35:01
Speaker 6: like for teachers.
35:02
Speaker 8: I do feel like, like if tests were more focused
35:05
Speaker 8: on allowing kids to think outside the box, it would
35:08
Speaker 8: benefit more. And teachers now kind of feel like it
35:11
Speaker 8: is more of a regurgitation than making sure that you
35:14
Speaker 8: can apply the knowledge that you gain into like, organized scenarios,
35:19
Speaker 8: or to solve some questions.
35:21
Speaker 13: Well, maybe teachers will get a little bit more creative
35:24
Speaker 13: with how they teach now if they don't have to teach.
35:26
Speaker 3: To the regents.
35:26
Speaker 13: But only time will tell. It's the first week of school,
35:30
Speaker 13: and this starts next school year.
35:32
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Natalie Migliore will be back tomorrow at
35:35
Speaker 1: 7.50 with her beat on the street. She just did
35:38
Speaker 1: a victory dance. It's like she's in the end zone.
35:40
Speaker 1: I passed my regents! I got a 99 on one.
35:43
Speaker 1: Thank you.
35:46
Speaker 2: Up next, oh, guess what? Ed Sheeran is going to
35:50
Speaker 2: be in your neck of the woods, Larry. Lincoln Field
35:53
Speaker 2: on Saturday. We'll get an update on that, but first,
35:56
Speaker 2: the news at 8.