Latest / The SmallBizChat with Melinda Emerson / Small Business Hacks to Grow Your Business with Barry Moltz
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- 0:003, 10, 1, 0, ignition, liftoff,
- 0:08Ending small business failure.
- 0:11Welcome to the Small Biz Chat podcast with a number 1 small business expert Melinda Emerson.
- 0:17Bolinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the information
- 0:21you need to succeed and live the life you've dream of.
- 0:25Now here's the small biz lady herself.
- 0:29Melinda Emerson.
- 0:31Hi, everybody.
- 0:32I'm Melinda Emerson, the small biz lady.
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- 1:14I am so excited to have my dear friend, Barry Bolt, who's been helping small businesses get
- 1:20unstacked 20 years or so back on small business chat with us tonight.
- 1:24He is an author.
- 1:26A keynote speaker, a business consultant, and, you know, I like to say I'm America's number 1
- 1:32small business expert, but he always says, that he's number 2.
- 1:35Very most welcome to Small Biz Chat.
- 1:37I am so excited to hear about your new book.
- 1:40Small Business hacks, a 100 Shortcuts, 26 SaaS.
- 1:43Welcome to Small Beach chat Live.
- 1:45Melinda.
- 1:46So, listen, what do you
- 1:47think the biggest issues are that small businesses struggle with?
- 1:50I think the biggest businesses that small business struggle with definitely is cash flow.
- 1:55You know, people always focused on how big their sales are, how much profit they make.
- 2:00But let's face it.
- 2:01Cash flow is king.
- 2:03Every business goes out of business to the exact same.
- 2:05Here's in Melinda.
- 2:06They run out of cash.
- 2:07And people are too focused in the top line and the bottom line.
- 2:10They gotta think about how much cash they got in the bank.
- 2:13Now your book is all about small business tell us what what is a business hack?
- 2:19When I when I think they're hacking, I think somebody's gonna hack my Facebook account.
- 2:23Like, tell me what you mean.
- 2:24But yeah.
- 2:25I mean, the Russians are not only only people that actually hack accounts.
- 2:28Right?
- 2:29A hack is really in in our vernacular.
- 2:31It's really a shortcut.
- 2:32You know, a small business owner gets into business because they wanna help a customer
- 2:37solve a problem.
- 2:38They don't realize as you and I know all the other things they have to do like They've got
- 2:42to pay employee taxes.
- 2:44Right?
- 2:44They've got to negotiate at least.
- 2:46They've gotta deal with the unemployment office.
- 2:48They gotta figure out a marketing strategy, all of those kinds of things.
- 2:52And they don't have time for it.
- 2:54So what are the shortcuts?
- 2:55Now you could go on Google or Yahoo and you could search for it, but then you get anything
- 2:59and we all know Melinda just because on the internet doesn't mean that it's true.
- 3:03So myself and Rivelsonski who have over we are not 60 years in small business We put together
- 3:11a series of experts that really help us with the top 100 issues that small business owners
- 3:17face as they're trying to run their business.
- 3:19Well, good.
- 3:21I'm so glad you cleared that up for us.
- 3:23Now tell me get just tell me some of favorite hacks that you highlight in your book?
- 3:28Well, actually, one of my favorite hacks is one that I did get from one of the people that's
- 3:33gonna be on the show tonight which is Pam slim.
- 3:36It's how you get someone to reply to an email.
- 3:40And I just love this because you put in the title please reply a, b, or c.
- 3:44And you put like a, you're no longer interested.
- 3:47B, I'm still interested, but I've been busy.
- 3:50Contact me a month or see.
- 3:52Let's talk right now.
- 3:53And I have to tell you my experience has been 95% of the people respond with a single letter
- 3:59and then at least you could move forward or forget about them.
- 4:01And I wanna thank Pam slim for that hack.
- 4:05That's good stuff.
- 4:06Give me another one.
- 4:07Give me
- 4:07another one.
- 4:09Well, another one of my favorite ones is actually how do you go out and pick a lawyer?
- 4:15And our hat really is you should never really hopefully have to use a lawyer, right?
- 4:20Because a lot of small business owners, they get frustrated that I'm just gonna, you know,
- 4:24one of the favorite languages.
- 4:25I'm gonna sue that guy.
- 4:26Right?
- 4:27We've all said that.
- 4:28But when you sue someone, the only people that really come out ahead is really.
- 4:35Right.
- 4:35You've gotta figure out how you really can put together some kind of deal that everyone knows
- 4:42what the expectations are so you don't have to use a lawyer in the short run or the long run.
- 4:47That's actually good advice for business or personal.
- 4:50It's like those of us who've been sued and sue other people, we know it.
- 4:55Shoot at.
- 4:56Alright.
- 4:57So now let's talk about what are your favorite hacks for customer service?
- 5:02Cause that seems to be a big issue.
- 5:03Like, we run out here.
- 5:04We sell stuff you know, we get people's money, but then we gotta ship the stuff, or we gotta,
- 5:09you know, service the stuff.
- 5:10Like, how what is the best way to provide excellent customer service as a small business.
- 5:16See, I don't even like to call Melinda customer service anymore because to me, that's reactive.
- 5:20I like to call customer experience because let's face it.
- 5:23People don't buy products anymore.
- 5:25They buy experiences.
- 5:26They buy relationships with companies.
- 5:29So you as a small business owner, you've gotta personalize it just as much as you can.
- 5:34I mean, Seth Gordon was just on one of my radio shows.
- 5:37He said, you know, It's really great that you sold that woman the engagement ring, but after
- 5:41she got married, did you send her a gift?
- 5:43Did you see how her engagement party went?
- 5:46Because you wanna follow-up and create that relationship because not that she's gonna buy
- 5:49another engagement ring but she's gonna tell everybody else the amazing experience she had
- 5:54it just wasn't a commodity.
- 5:55If you're just selling a product, then, you know, you're not gonna win as a small business
- 6:00owner.
- 6:00You can't compete with price That's not a way to compete with Amazon.
- 6:05Right.
- 6:05The race at the bottom is a race nobody wins.
- 6:07You definitely don't wanna be out here competing on price.
- 6:12Now let's talk about sales hacks.
- 6:14What how can you keep your pipeline filled, you know, as a business owner?
- 6:18Cause it seems to me that we sell a job, and then we start working on the job.
- 6:22And then we look up, and that job is about to end.
- 6:24And we're like, oh, no.
- 6:25I need another job.
- 6:26Like, it's like this feast or famine thing constantly.
- 6:29How can you avoid Yeah.
- 6:30I call this the double helix trap.
- 6:32You know, we only do marketing.
- 6:33We have no sales, but as soon as we get sales, there's all marketing.
- 6:36We stop doing that marketing.
- 6:37So you have to have a automated marketing strategy that happens no matter what you're
- 6:42doing.
- 6:42And it's an older kind of, a strategy, but I think a lot of it's still effective, which is
- 6:47content marketing strategy.
- 6:49We have to go out there and to touch people once a week with some kind of advice.
- 6:54Now We're not selling them.
- 6:56We're building relationship by giving them advice because I believe Melinda, we actually
- 7:00can't sell any to anybody We have to be there when people are ready to buy.
- 7:04And the only way they're gonna be familiar with you when they're ready to buy is if you talk to
- 7:08them every single week and try to offer them help.
- 7:10Now let's talk about that.
- 7:12When you say talk to him every week, are they getting a phone call from me, or are they
- 7:16getting an email for Lee?
- 7:17You might be getting an email with some kind of content.
- 7:20You know, so for example, you might if you're a plumber, you might send them an article that
- 7:25says, the most dangerous thing in your house, which, of course, is water.
- 7:28Right?
- 7:29You're not trying to sell them your service.
- 7:31You're showing yourself as an expert.
- 7:32You could also be putting this on Facebook or Twitter or social media or Instagram.
- 7:37Those types of things.
- 7:38You could show them a customer experience.
- 7:40But what I wanna emphasize is you're not saying, hey, I've got a sale this week.
- 7:44It's 50% off.
- 7:46Right.
- 7:46That's the wrong thing, the absolutely wrong thing to say.
- 7:50Alright.
- 7:50One more question.
- 7:52Tell me of all the 100 packs in your book.
- 7:56Which one is your favorite?
- 7:58Well, I already mentioned one of my favorites, but one of my other favorites is that people
- 8:03actually give up when they go to look for a new domain name and it's not available.
- 8:08I will tell you almost no domain names are now available, but you have to realize there's
- 8:13actually ten steps that domain names go through if they're let go or people aren't paying their
- 8:20bills or something like that.
- 8:22And if you're a patient and you stay in touch, you can actually get the domain name you want,
- 8:27and we go through the 10 steps you gotta get.
- 8:29So I really like that one.
- 8:30You shouldn't give up on it.
- 8:32I agree with that.
- 8:32And, actually, that's how I got the URL fix your business dot com because I waited.
- 8:37You know, like like a a a patient kid on east, you know, Christmas morning.
- 8:42I was like, I waited and I got it.
- 8:44And that's why I was in ended up being able to call my book, fix your business.
- 8:48Mary, this is great stuff, but put a pin in that.
- 8:52When we come right back, we're gonna get very most to tell us even more information, even
- 8:57more hacks.
- 8:58So listen.
- 8:59I'm Melinda Emerson, and I want you to stay with us.
- 9:04My new book fixture business is really about encouraging people to take back control of
- 9:08their business.
- 9:08And change how their businesses is run.
- 9:11It's not okay to skip paychecks.
- 9:13It's not okay to never feel like you can take a vacation, and it's also not okay not know how
- 9:18much profit you've made in your business until your taxes are done.
- 9:21I really want business owners to stop letting their businesses be runaway train.
- 9:26I've written this book to teach people processes and systems to help them run their
- 9:30businesses intentionally.
- 9:32My goal is to help existing entrepreneurs create a business that allows them to live
- 9:37their dream life.
- 9:40Hi, everybody, and welcome back.
- 9:42I'm Melinda Emerson.
- 9:43Small biz lady and the host of small biz chat.
- 9:46Now listen, I want to talk more to bearing molts about this email thing.
- 9:51You know, I'm not gonna let it go.
- 9:53Email is a good and bad thing for any small business owners.
- 9:58I wanna welcome back very molds to talk to me about Barry, everybody hates email, but it
- 10:04can't be avoided.
- 10:05It's 87% of marketers are out here still using email.
- 10:09But I don't know about you.
- 10:10I feel like you remember years ago when people used to open their mail and if over a trash
- 10:15can, like, that's kinda how I And I need you to help us out.
- 10:21You know, there are people out here saying email marketing's dead.
- 10:24It's really about mobile web marketing, but Is that true?
- 10:27Like, what's going on with email?
- 10:29Listen.
- 10:29It all depends on what your customers, how your customers wanna be communicated with.
- 10:34Right, Melinda?
- 10:34Some still wanna be communicated with email.
- 10:36And I think one of the biggest problems of people that use email marketing is they never
- 10:41go back and see how different email actually did they sent the email out.
- 10:45Who actually opened it up?
- 10:47What links?
- 10:47What things would be interested?
- 10:48What subjects are really working?
- 10:50Right?
- 10:50And you can also further sub subset once people do open up emails.
- 10:55One of the really good things that you have a sophisticated email program, like, I know you
- 10:59and I and some of the other guests do many of us use Infusionsoft.
- 11:03What happens is that you're sending certain sequences to people over time.
- 11:08And then based on their answers, they get different emails.
- 11:11That's really specialized and customized email, and they're just not saying the same glass to
- 11:16everyone.
- 11:17That's really where email is going because people want Melinda personalization and
- 11:21customization.
- 11:22Right.
- 11:23Now I couldn't agree with you more You've got to segment your list in order for email to be
- 11:29effective.
- 11:30The right email has to go to the right person.
- 11:33And really, it's about making sure that you clean up your list, you know, every 12 months,
- 11:38right, you should be looking at who hadn't opened your emails in 12 months.
- 11:41If they haven't opened your email in 12 months, they need to get put on a different list.
- 11:45I don't believe in deleting emails, but I believe that you need to start engaging people
- 11:50differently versus who's opening your stuff versus who's not.
- 11:54Now one of the things that I know about you is you talk a lot about taking a no for a no.
- 12:00You know, I know, you know, sometimes you can as a business owner, you can turn into a small
- 12:05business stalker almost.
- 12:07And I think that that's dangerous for us to get into.
- 12:10Can you talk about when to give up on chasing a customer?
- 12:14Well, I'm a real big believer that you have to have a system about how many times you touch
- 12:19someone.
- 12:19I believe that it's four times And what you really do is you wanna get a no from someone so
- 12:25you can let them go.
- 12:26One of the problems that a lot of people have in sales is Melinda, they have a really good
- 12:29meeting really good call, really good visit, and and the customer says, I wanna do business
- 12:34with you.
- 12:34And then guess what?
- 12:35You never hear from them again.
- 12:37And you keep going after that same person over and over and over again, and they moved on a
- 12:41long time ago.
- 12:42So if you can get a no or no, not now, you can move on to other people.
- 12:47I also don't believe in taking people off list until they take themselves off, but I do
- 12:53believe they should be on a different list and perhaps be sending that email less frequently
- 12:58because they're not interested hearing from you.
- 13:00A lot of small business owners also get nervous when people unsubscribe I think it's great
- 13:05people have subscribed.
- 13:06I don't wanna talk to you either.
- 13:11I love it.
- 13:11I love it.
- 13:12Now I I have to say I I do take it personal when people unsubscribe.
- 13:15But
- 13:17I cry every single time.
- 13:18It's very hot.
- 13:20No.
- 13:20I'm always, like, I almost wanna call him up, but what do we do?
- 13:24What happened?
- 13:24You know, I need to let it go.
- 13:26I know I do.
- 13:27Anyway, but listen.
- 13:29What is the best advice that you could give a business owner right now who's trying to
- 13:34reinvent their business?
- 13:36Well, I think yep.
- 13:37Pick one thing that you really wanna work on.
- 13:39What is really holding you back?
- 13:41I mean, I talk about getting small business unstuck.
- 13:44You really have to choose that one thing.
- 13:46It's very difficult, Melinda, to work on 3 or 4 things.
- 13:49Pick the one thing that you think is holding you back.
- 13:52Is it marketing?
- 13:53Is it sales?
- 13:54Is it motivating a manager or people?
- 13:56Is it your finances?
- 13:57Is it retaining customers?
- 13:59What is really holding you back?
- 14:00From taking your business to next step.
- 14:03Focus on that.
- 14:04I think that's great advice.
- 14:06And, you know, the other thing I think too is if your business is stuck, know that 50% of all
- 14:11business problems are not so well hidden personal problems.
- 14:13What's wrong with your business might actually be you.
- 14:17Right?
- 14:17So Listen.
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- 14:41Thank you for joining us tonight on small biz chat.
- 14:44I am Melinda Emerson, the small biz lady, and it is my privilege to help you take your
- 14:49business to the next level.
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- 14:59Next time, I wanna help you live your dream life as an entrepreneur.
- 15:04Thank you so much, guys, and good night.
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