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Episode 319: Life (SG-U 1.09) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode three hundred and nineteen. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: Stargate Universe season one, episode nine, and this one's called
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  Speaker 1: Life Live.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch the line again? You go, mate, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Boys?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You just like the setup, like being isolated. Dude, do
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  Speaker 3: look like fun at all bringing it up?
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I left it. Maddie's mic on you don't know
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  Speaker 2: that song?
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  Speaker 1: My name is Brendan Gibson and joining us is the
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  Speaker 1: song tune guru himself five pitch Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Afraid of the dark, especially when the men of park
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  Speaker 2: never walk under. Is there a lot about toasting that
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  Speaker 2: as well? I like eating toast?
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm toast.
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  Speaker 1: You want a great patreo TOAs Patreon dot com fort
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  Speaker 1: slash get in the gate? Yeah, jumping on board.
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  Speaker 2: I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: Hiray is that her name? Yes, you're telling the story, mate.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent, Rather have a piece of toes. Watch the evening news.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: What a basic bitch. That's racist. She happens to be
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  Speaker 2: a black woman. She racist?
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough? Then here we are, we're talking life. Should
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  Speaker 1: Should I sing again? Can I please? Can I sing again?
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  Speaker 2: You can? Okay, I'll save it. I'll save it. I'll
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  Speaker 2: save it as an outroll. Save my voice, save my instrument.
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  Speaker 2: Good call.
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  Speaker 1: Let's jump into the old synopsis that we got going
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  Speaker 1: here from the great people at Prime. If they want
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  Speaker 1: to jump on and sponsor the show, they won't, especially
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  Speaker 1: especially headed into next year with a new new Stargate show.
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  Speaker 1: And I've already been calling it s G. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for God's sake, throw us some bloody cash. Is outrageous, and.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about it anyway, so you may as well
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  Speaker 2: bullshit austraining correspondence, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Life Using the Communication Stones, Lieutenant Scott and Camille Ray
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  Speaker 1: use their time back on Earth to visit those they've
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  Speaker 1: left behind. A board Destiny, the crew stumbles upon a
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  Speaker 1: piece of ancient technology that carries the promise of a
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  Speaker 1: way home. There's a little bit more to it than that.
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  Speaker 1: They totally missed Camille's trip to Lesbos. Yeah, let's let's recap.
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  Speaker 1: She went to Greece.
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  Speaker 2: She went to Greece to the island of Lesbos. Or
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  Speaker 2: is it the Isle or the island of Lesbos? I
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  Speaker 2: believe's the Isle of Lesbos. It depends if you're I'm
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  Speaker 2: pretty sure it depends if you like them on depends
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  Speaker 2: if you eat them or not. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Two tickets Lesbos please, first class, first class, God all
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  Speaker 1: the way, John Bojet, Let's rock and roll, Mitch, first timer.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this? Because for me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like halfway through. First of all, I hate the intro music,
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  Speaker 1: not that I hate the song, but just which one
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  Speaker 1: was it?
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  Speaker 2: Again? It was? Uh oh the worst day since yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's the one. Oh yeah, we forgot to do
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  Speaker 2: it last week, Mitch. What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: No? I liked it.
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  Speaker 4: I think off the back of last week, which felt like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that singular episode, which felt a bit more
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  Speaker 4: SG one SGU and it's weird, like this one's going
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  Speaker 4: on and it's back to being a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: personal drama. We're focusing on characters, and I thought, holy shit,
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  Speaker 4: I so much prefer this in SGU than what we
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  Speaker 4: got last week, which was this sort of more real
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  Speaker 4: sci fi type action. We're on an alien planet with
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  Speaker 4: time traveling, not not by a crazy amount, but just
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  Speaker 4: I think, I don't know, this is what I've gotten
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  Speaker 4: used to with s This is what SGU is to me,
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  Speaker 4: is these people getting to know these people, and and
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  Speaker 4: the sort of the struggle that they're in being lost
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  Speaker 4: out there, whereas last week was this little loft shoot
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more what we've been used to with
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  Speaker 4: SG one end and A. But yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: and I think just the I don't know touch more
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  Speaker 4: of the sadness about it and whether or not it
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  Speaker 4: was the you know, tickets to Lesbos or whatever. But
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  Speaker 4: going back and you know younger twelve he is married
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  Speaker 4: through and Phillips.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well not married because he was legal, so they
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  Speaker 2: went to Lesbos and got married. The Greek stoke here
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  Speaker 2: they've been doing.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: And look, guys, you know you're going to love this.
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  Speaker 4: We obviously already loved Migna from a bunch of different stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But when the street fighter and the actress whose name
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  Speaker 4: is Rico Aylesworth a ka missus Tony l Mada from
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  Speaker 4: twenty four season two lost, thanks very much.
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  Speaker 2: Actually yes, I do think not. In the audio commentary,
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  Speaker 2: Louis Fererra confirmed it's Louis Fererra. He says it himself.
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  Speaker 2: He goes by Louis. Yeah he was in that same season,
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  Speaker 2: because he said he did an episode of twenty four
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  Speaker 2: with her. Lululu Louis that he would have.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was around for a while, and then you've
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  Speaker 4: got Oltmate who's in charge of Mignah's character and keeps
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  Speaker 4: checking in with her. He was a later addition to
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  Speaker 4: twenty four, So it was a big of twenty four adrenaline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently in the audio because Mignah was actually in
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  Speaker 2: this audio. It was Migna, Louis Fererra, and I've totally
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  Speaker 2: blanked on what Lieutenant's got. His real name is Scott Scott. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was the three of them. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she did say actually her and her and the actress
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  Speaker 2: that played Sharon met that day, so I think that
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  Speaker 2: was just making out men. I was very excited because
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  Speaker 2: she was like, she was like, this is my first
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  Speaker 2: on screen girl kiss. But yeah, I think they had
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  Speaker 2: pretty good chemistry for like people who've just met that day.
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  Speaker 2: It did feel like they had a bit of a history,
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  Speaker 2: which I quite liked.
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  Speaker 3: Especially motion.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, that's that's not going away anytime soon, is it.
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  Speaker 2: That's well. I think I think the Camille Sharon stuff
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  Speaker 2: was kind of, in a way my favorite part of
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  Speaker 2: this episode, just because I didn't really connect with the
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  Speaker 2: Scott stuff and yeah, Like I guess I was really
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  Speaker 2: curious about what you guys would think about it being
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  Speaker 2: the married men, not because they're lesbians, but because like
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  Speaker 2: the idea of, say, for example, your wife, this is
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  Speaker 2: probably a bad example of if your wives were on
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  Speaker 2: destiny and they came to visit you in another woman's body.
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  Speaker 2: Now I know that you're both you're both going to
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  Speaker 2: it's zoomed in on face. Yeah, yeah, like now I
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  Speaker 2: now you have to remember it might not be a
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  Speaker 2: woman that you find attractive, you know, I mean from
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  Speaker 2: your point of view, Brandon, what if what if it
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  Speaker 2: was Tory Higginson was the woman that came home and
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  Speaker 2: said hello and Bedona? You know it's I think she's gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: You're just not a fan of Tory that I never
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  Speaker 2: said that. Oh okay, it's just weird. It's just a
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  Speaker 2: weird situation. Okay. So yeah, like I I would, I
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  Speaker 2: think I would have a very hard time. But for me,
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  Speaker 2: it is very much a what's what's the word? It's
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  Speaker 2: a it's a too far of a scenario for me
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  Speaker 2: because I don't have a significant other, so I have
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  Speaker 2: to imagine being connected enough to a significant other, imagine
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  Speaker 2: them in another body ridiculous, Whereas.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I look at and I'm like, there's no
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  Speaker 1: way you'd be that comfortable and hugging this person. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even matter if you believe the consciousness is inside,
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  Speaker 1: it's still yeah, some other someone else's body and they're
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  Speaker 1: coming back to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's like for Rent, yeah, because it's like
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  Speaker 2: I can understand that fixing the bathroom at a hotel,
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't do it. Yeah, And it's and it's the
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  Speaker 2: sci fi, you know, version of your wives asking you
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  Speaker 2: would you still love me if I was this or
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  Speaker 2: I would you still love me if I was this
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  Speaker 2: or that or whatever? And you have to be like, yes, dear,
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  Speaker 2: of course I would. But this is the sci fi
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  Speaker 2: version where it's like, well, if your wife comes home
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  Speaker 2: in a different body, that's awkward. I mean, if she
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  Speaker 2: comes home in Galgadat's body, well, then that's a different scenario.
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  Speaker 2: You can you can. I'm sure you guys would be
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  Speaker 2: able to push through at that point. But in the
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  Speaker 2: same wow, I'm sure if you guys both came home
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  Speaker 2: to your wives in a Hemsworth body, then you know
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  Speaker 2: your wives would be like, oh, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Like I guess I'm not a fan of caramel ice cream,
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  Speaker 1: but if I only have vanilla my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: I'll try you to try. You're good to try if caramel,
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  Speaker 2: happy with it? Right? But if it's if it's if
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  Speaker 2: it's vanilla coated in caramels, then are we are we
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  Speaker 2: saying Madana's the other woman woman you've been with or
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  Speaker 2: is it just you've just had vanilla for the last
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  Speaker 2: twenty years? Yeah that's true. Yeah, okay, all right, but
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  Speaker 2: you have tried like you were you were going with
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  Speaker 2: neapolitan when you what I mean, yeah, a bit of
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  Speaker 2: rocky road and then.
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  Speaker 5: That's gonna Robins thirty one flavors favor It wasn't at
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  Speaker 5: not quite thirty one, gold medal ribbon, get amongst it.
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  Speaker 5: What about you, Mitchell, Well, I feel like we've already
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  Speaker 5: covered this in the podcast, Like I feel like we're
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  Speaker 5: starting the same conversation where like I think you put
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  Speaker 5: it forward to us a couple of episodes ago.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe when Chloe I went.
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  Speaker 4: Back and yeah, I believe it, Yeah, get it, get
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  Speaker 4: in here, get in here, duh, I believe you. But no,
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  Speaker 4: I found myself thinking the same thing where I feel
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  Speaker 4: like Sharon did put up a little bit of hesitance
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  Speaker 4: like oh this, I don't know, this feels a little weird,
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  Speaker 4: and she's like, just trust me, it's me, and there
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  Speaker 4: was the hug. But then you know, within four minutes
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  Speaker 4: of screen time they're getting undressed in front of each
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  Speaker 4: other and showering and whatever else. It was like they
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  Speaker 4: caught up pretty quickly. And that's where I think, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the audience is treated a little basic because we're
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  Speaker 4: seeing MG Nah playing that characters. I would love to
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  Speaker 4: see one of these scenes where it's the other actress
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  Speaker 4: and where they're seeing it from Sharon's point of view,
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  Speaker 4: going oh, I can't believe how comfortable you are here,
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  Speaker 4: and especially in the more intimate moments and things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, although one thing.
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  Speaker 4: I was actually really happy that they touched on was
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  Speaker 4: after they'd had dinner and I found myself asking the question,
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  Speaker 4: and then later on Sharon's talking to to what am
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  Speaker 4: I forgetting bouncing off her name?
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep calling it Na and yeah, Camille, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 4: She said, oh, you know this body, it's it is different.
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  Speaker 4: Food tastes a little different, And that's exactly what I've
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  Speaker 4: been thinking about when she was eating. I thought, you
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  Speaker 4: don't have the same taste buds. You're not going to
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  Speaker 4: automatically like the same food. Obviously she knows how to
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  Speaker 4: speak her you know, a foreign language or her native language.
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  Speaker 4: So I liked that element at the start, saying using
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  Speaker 4: her native tongue, perhaps well.
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  Speaker 3: Out right referring to the to the to the to
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  Speaker 3: the ugly chair. So I liked that.
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  Speaker 4: But then to go share that same in this body,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, that's something that we've never something that
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  Speaker 4: we've never touched on before in any of these body
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  Speaker 4: swap things that I've ever watched, And whether it be
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  Speaker 4: something like The Change Up with Ryan Reynolds and Jason
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  Speaker 4: Bateman or a Freaky Friday anything, I don't remember ever
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  Speaker 4: seeing them going, oh, this food tastes different in this body.
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  Speaker 4: So I I just like that little little change that
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  Speaker 4: that was nice, especially in such an intimate setting of
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  Speaker 4: them just you know, cuddling on the couch.
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  Speaker 2: Well done to you, Mitchell the cinophile that you are
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  Speaker 2: pulling up the Change Up as a body swap movie.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about that last week. Completely forgotten about that
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  Speaker 2: movie existence my last week. I went six weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: I completely forgot about that. Yeah, I what I came
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  Speaker 2: away with in this episode, aside from a handful of lube,
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  Speaker 2: was I'm joking. Obviously, obviously Sharon doesn't do anything for me.
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  Speaker 2: What that was interesting is I.
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  Speaker 3: Wonder if.
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  Speaker 2: In a twenty twenty six mental health kind of way,
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if we would actually look at that as
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  Speaker 2: actually being harder on the people stuck on destiny in
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  Speaker 2: terms of like the fact that imagine, yeah, it's tortu
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  Speaker 2: image and the only way you get to go back
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  Speaker 2: and see your loved ones is in another person's body
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  Speaker 2: and they're making love to another person's body. You're in
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  Speaker 2: another person's body. So there is always going to be
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  Speaker 2: no matter how much you try and forget it. Like
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  Speaker 2: what Mitchell saying with the different taste buds thing, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: there's always going to be reminded that you're not actually there.
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  Speaker 2: Pussy tastes a little different. Something was interesting in the
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  Speaker 2: the Something that I thought was interesting in the audio
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  Speaker 2: commentary that Louis Ferrera I believe brought up is he
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  Speaker 2: said this is his favorite episode to date so far.
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  Speaker 2: Something that he loved about the dichotomy between the Scott
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  Speaker 2: story and the Camille story is how they were kind
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  Speaker 2: of like polar opposites of each other in that Camille was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, leaning like trying to get Sharon to believe
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  Speaker 2: that it's her and try and establish that connection, whereas
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  Speaker 2: Scott was actually using the fact that he was in
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  Speaker 2: another person's body to his better. He had the anonymity
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  Speaker 2: that he was able to you know, trying to trying
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  Speaker 2: to reach out to his quote unquote family. Yeah, in
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  Speaker 2: kind of the polar opposite way that Camille was. And
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't actually considered that until until he mentioned that
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  Speaker 2: in the auto commentary. And I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: whether that was intentional by Carl Binder, but I really
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  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, And I think she did the same
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  Speaker 2: when she went and visited her parents. Blink and you
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  Speaker 2: miss it. Oh yeah, Oh I told you it wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be long. If you were looking away, you'd be like
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  Speaker 2: that you took ages with Sharon. What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't because I was I looked away
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  Speaker 1: and I looked back, and like, what she just got
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  Speaker 1: back in the She got back in the car after
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  Speaker 1: seeing her parents, but I thought it was after when
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  Speaker 1: he knocks on the door, on her door, and then
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  Speaker 1: she's ready to go and she goes, oh yeah car Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because there was a line about that too, where it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have clearance, they don't have security clearance, where
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  Speaker 2: Sharon does.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess that's the same as when Eli went back,
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  Speaker 1: because he could have told her not to.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Now the what's her name? The sixteen year
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  Speaker 2: old baby mama? Oh, I didn't even she doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a name. Probably No, I don't think she returns, does
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  Speaker 2: share at this point? I think that's it. No, I think,
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  Speaker 2: and we never see her again. We just call her
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  Speaker 2: the mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the thing I liked the most out
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  Speaker 1: of it, by the way, written by behind her, isn't
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  Speaker 1: it in the binder? Binder's done something here where I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was the nicest touch the episode where she
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  Speaker 1: forgot the boat because in the.
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  Speaker 2: Painting or previous episodes, during the the montage at the
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  Speaker 2: Star was in the montage, yea, she was during the
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  Speaker 2: the painting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and she forgot the boat. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's torture. Yeah, that's torture.
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  Speaker 2: And then even when she leaves, there's that moment where
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: as soon as Sharon closes the door she breaks down
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  Speaker 2: as well, like it's yeah, it's tough, it's yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: almost better that they didn't have any contact, almost like
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  Speaker 2: it's it's would for the people at home to know
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  Speaker 2: they're alive. But having contact that way does seem like
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: a really kind of like double edged sword. And then
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: on the flip side, we've got flipper over until she's done, Mitchell,
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  Speaker 2: I think we kind of alluded to it a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, but yeah, Telford getting busy with Young's
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  Speaker 2: wife after the experiment a couple of weeks ago where
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: you know, they swapped bodies mid mid you reckon they
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: didn't again and then she and then she's up, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's like he told you that. You believe that guy, scoundrel?
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  Speaker 2: I mean the rig of Telford, though, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I feel like ownA Grauer has probably got
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit of an upgrade just in terms of
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  Speaker 2: the rig. Yeah, I think I think Lewis might think
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  Speaker 2: he might be prettier. I think in the fart J Louis, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think for me, I think I think Colonel Young's
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: got the face card. But LDP and rig well done,
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  Speaker 2: sir d Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think when the episode opens and they're having dinner
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  Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, you dirty dog. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: because you don't get much context, I thought, are you
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: here pretending to be Rush or are you coming back
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  Speaker 4: as this friend? And you've just got this like we
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: see you know, he woke up and he was in
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  Speaker 4: the middle of that act and he's got this fascination,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: this desire for it, and maybe he'd already had it in
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: their brief moments or it was just one of those
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  Speaker 4: things that just, you know, all of a sudden, he's like,
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  Speaker 4: I've just seen the goods. But then to go to
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: her and be like, yeah, let me tell you something
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  Speaker 4: about your husband, I'm like, oh, you are so like
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I gues you don't like the guy. But oh that's
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: a yeah, yeah, we see it play out, but it's
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: just a yeah, yeah, just the torture of it all,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: like knowing now that that's going on, and it is.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's a little a little weird on what's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: the young's wife's name, Emily, Emily, Oh, that's right, because
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Emily and Emmett, that's right. I think it is a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: little a little odd because again it's like what we
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: said with the whole stone thing doesn't sort of really
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: show the the authenticity of the moment. But if you
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: think about like Emily's shelter, yeah, like she's she's ridden
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: that and that's and that's when that's when Telford jumped
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: back into his body, right, she was climaxing and she's
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: writing him that she doesn't know that, but she's had
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: sex with that body. It definitely knows. Yeah, so it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: like she's like, oh hello, So again going back to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like the scenario was saying to you guys before, it's like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: so yeah, it's it's suddenly it's like your wives are
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: on destiny. Then the body that they rocked up to
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: bang you with shows up the next day, but it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the person who actually owns that body, And it's like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I just want to have dinner, and you're in your
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: head going all I've I've seen everything you've got. I've
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: seen you breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I can taste that
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: breakfast burrito. Yeah yeah, that would be a very very
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: weird scenario. And I feel like that's almost the I
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: don't want to women blame, but I feel like that's
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that's the bigger betrayal of the two things. But I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: guess you know, also Emily and Emmett aren't exactly on
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the best of her.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like he cheated on her, so she's figured, well,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not technically cheating on you because I'm banging you,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: but it is another person's body. Yeah, and then the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: new body comes up, and then she should be sliding
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: around on a seat. By dinner with Telford, she would
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: have jumped him and he would have been okay with it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I guess it is interesting too because obviously
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: every couple has their own rules. Like I don't know,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I don't expect you guys to say it on the pod,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, certain couples they consider if
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: their husband's watching pawn, that's cheating if you're like some
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: of them. Some couples, it's like emotional cheat, like talking
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to an X is worse than sleeping with some random
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, you know. I mean, there's there's
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: emotional cheating, and then there's physical cheating, and and every
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: couple has their own sort of version of water is
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, then then the flip side is you've got
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: open couples and you've got you know, all that kind
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of that kind of scene. I think it was obvious
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that they weren't open because she was not happy. You
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: knew they were far from an open couple.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like in two thousand and nine, an open
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: couple wasn't really a very common thing as much as
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it is now.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's the whole reason you get married,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: isn't it. What's that so you monogamous?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of people that consider
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: monogamy to be a you know, a very outdated, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: religious based practice. But yeah, it's just because someone wants
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to be monogamous, they can be. You know, I'm not
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: particularly religious, but I think more of it like a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: family centrist, because if you're cheating on your wife, you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: cheating on your family. Oh absolutely, But when it's an
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: open relationship, it's not cheating. Then you've got to hide
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it from the kids. Yeah, that's where it becomes a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: different scenario because you can't explain to a five year
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: old what an open marriage is. But then again, you're
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: also not explaining to your five year old every time
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: you bend your wife had a kitchen bench so that's true,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: but they watch.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Let the boy watch, let him learn.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Jeez, obviously I'm joking.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Shit, he aches, Yeah, I think I feel like for me,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I was more angry that she didn't that Scott in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Scott's storyline, that she didn't tell him that he had
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: a son. She told him, yeah, she was going to
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: take care of it and didn't, And I was like, dude,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that's so rough, especially for the kid, like he's clearly
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: being neglected. Yeah, and psychologically, like, aside from the physical neglect,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the psychological neglect of a child age thinking, oh, my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: dad doesn't love me, he doesn't want to spend time
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: with me, or anything like that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so bad. Did they even try and buy
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it back at all? I don't remember. Was there a
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: line where it's like she tried to reach out to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: him because she couldn't find it. Didn't want to be
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: a burden. Damn that's what she said. That's damn shit. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that's that's all right, fair enough if you don't want
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: anything to do with him, but think of your son,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: because it's like, psychologically, it's like a devouring mother, as
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: they say, what devouring mother? Never heard of that? I
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: think it's like a Fred one of them. Okay, Yeah,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it's Yeah, so it's one of those things. I mean,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's a very hard thing to to sympathize
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with and and see her point of view in that regard,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: especially when it's I don't want to say it's selfish,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: but it's very kind of obviously she's thinking about herself
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: more than she's thinking about her son. But I guess
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the other flip side is she I guess doesn't know.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I mean may or may not know. I don't think
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: they really talking about theisode is what's worse either what
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: she did or like from her point of view, that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: or letting the child get to know the father and
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the father not having an interest like he's that but
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: it's also taking the choice away.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's yeah, he's a good guy. Yeahs from
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: all he's made O stuff he's made. Yeah, he's made mistakes,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but I think he's a good man.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: So why wouldn't like, why wouldn't you want someone like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that as the father? Although they did, didn't They They
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: got together when they were sixteen or something, she was sixteen,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: she was, was he not? I thought he was supposed
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to be sixteen as well.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. But then how old was the kid?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Kid was eight? Eight? Oh, okay, so to make him
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: want in his like mid twenties, Yes, No, I just
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: been in terms of I was just trying to buy
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Scott's age. Now. I was like, yeah, I thought the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: kid kid was five, and I'm like, well, then he'd
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: only be twenty one, and I don't buy Lieutenant Scott
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: has been a twenty one year old, but I would
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: buy him as like a twenty four year old. Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I was fired up because, yeah, like psychologically for the kid,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you'd be devastated that dad doesn't want to see me.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: And if I was, if I was Scott in Telford's body,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I would have said, hey, mate, your dad's on a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: mission for the military saving the world.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That's not bad. He wants to come back, but he's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: stuck over there, so just to let you know. Yeah,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And that's a nice midway point because you don't also
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: don't want to burden the child with, oh, your dad
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: didn't know you even existed because your mum didn't tell him. Yeah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: because then that puts a wedge between child and mother,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: and you don't want to do that either. Yeah, so yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's very much a yeah. I think that's a
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: that's a really good sort of middle ground. It's not
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: going to sort of so at least the kids like, oh, okay,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: my dad doesn't hate me. He's just doing he's stuck
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: on a mission. He can't come home. Yeah, I mean
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: especially yeah, and that year old kid in American all,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: my dad's a hero, you know. Yeah, it's going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: give him something. Someone at school will be like, sure, mate, yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: we've heard about your mum. May your mum got a
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: john from the strip club to dress up as a colonel.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it does say colonel on
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: my uniform.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: But then he's like, I'm going to give you my
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: monthly pay from the Air Force, and she's like, nah,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I'll keep stripping.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Thanks. I'm like, okay, go power. As as they are
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: each to their own, Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you could kind of feel it, treading that fine
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: line of him, you know, try and do the right
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: thing and provide for a kid that he didn't know
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: that he had, but immediately trying and like but also
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: not blaming her. Like he was clearly angry but couldn't
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: express it very much. He did a little bit there
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: where he's like, why wouldn't you tell it, but then
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: had to sort of hold that in because it was
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: very much not his body. But then try to go, Okay, well,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: what can I possibly do when I'm on the other
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: side of the universe. I can just give you cash,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: and hey, then you can go back and you can
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: chase that dream that you had the last time I
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: saw you, before this, before this happened, before he happened,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: and her being like, nah, look it was never gonna
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: happen anyway, rather not, and then him sort of trying
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to push her but not you know, no, you're disgusting
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: because you're a dancer, Like you need to go on
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: back and get a you know, a legitimate like, you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: a good job, an honorable job or something. And then
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I think you'd regardless of what you thought about what
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: she was doing there, there'd be a viewer out there going, ah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: you know, her body, her choice.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: You can't tell her what to do, you can't force her.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: But that's not what he was doing.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: But it is a very fine line there where it's
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: like he's just waltzing into her life and being like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: all right, let me pay for shit, so you can
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: go do something that you swore off doing, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: nine or ten years ago.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: But also it's like, you know, to play devil's advocate.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: If she is stripping that much and they're still living
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: in abject poverty, she's not that great at a job.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Like you know, there's strippers here in Brisbane that can
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: pull two or three grand a night, which is more
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: than we make in a week. I guess she said
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: she just started, so.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, just a daytime shift.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well that's like the D team pulling in.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: She's not even getting weak nights. Although in America it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: very different though, Like you got to strip club and
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: there's like a there's a bar with hot wings and
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: pancakes and waffles and all that kind of shit as well. Yeah,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: This one for a long time, but I know that
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: after like the second half of a very weird Christmas
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: party that we had, and of all people, it was
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the captain of the Queen Team, as he referred to himself,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a lovely Brad and at the end of the.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Christmas party he said, let's go to the strip.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Club, and we went to Love and Rockets, Loving rockets
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and ordered pizza. So we ordered pizza Cultra food and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: then we were all hand feeding pizza to prostitute ship.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: He's done.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: You went to that party. I wondered where you went.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I went behind the curtain. You know there's that big curtain. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I went behind there. Yeah, for the private dance area.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Is there cake back here? Private dance? Oh there's sorry, Mitchell,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I cut you off. What were you again to tell
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: us about the about the strippers?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, nothing, I'm just thinking too.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I've got the episode on behind me and just reminded
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: me of like the Great Book Ends, right, like at
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: the start with with Mignaha and yeah, she's drawing, which
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you guys referred to and then which I had to
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: like rewatch the start of it there because when she
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: referred to it, she's, I can't believe I forgot about
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: the what was it in the end?
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: The boat? Bring the boat?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And she just.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Started crying and I'm like, did you just forget it
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: was on there? And then I had that's right, she
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: was drawing and she'd forgotten to put that little detail in.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: But sort of okay, there's the payoff where we could
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: see Okay, she's just drawing a painting the tanging in
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: her house, like you know, what a what a weird
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: emotional reaction to have, but that's how she's dealing with it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: And then you know, we see her have that shower,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: which I thought was in strange, Like I guess she
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: was going off to be intimate with her wife. She's
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: cleaning the stranger's body.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't know, she just went back. Yeah, like
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't know how long that lady's been sitting in that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: chair in starting command.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: But I mean the limited time that you're gonna have
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: with your wife and you're spending you know, ten minutes.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Then just has her having this very private shower. But
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: then we get to the end and it's like no, no, no,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: she was having a shower in her house and she.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Was having a private moment in her house with her
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: wife outside.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Because then at the end we see her very emotional
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: having one of the what is it like the steam
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: shower essentially, you know, on this alien the other side
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: of the universe, just sitting there by yourself, really emotional,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and it's like here, it's the same thing, but it's
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: completely different. And it was the second time that had
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: happened in the episode, so I just really.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Liked It's kind of a more depressing version of like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you know when you go on holiday and then when
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you come home and just like take a shower in
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: your own shower and go to bed in your own
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and just like oh yeah, yeah, that familiarity. I think
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: my favorite part of the episode though, was the c
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: side the dentist chair. The dentist chair, I was thinking, Oh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that's the Atlantis control chair or the one from me,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: like a proto, Yeah, that's what I chair. But it's
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: actually not that. It's a face sucker. Yeah, it's the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Proto repository. Yeah, which is super cool. This is what
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Rush says.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: Neural interface a precursor to an ancient device s G
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: one discovered several years ago, a reposed to re of
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: knowledge that can be literally downloaded into one's mind. You
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: think this is one of those things.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Within that knowledge.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: Maybe the master called to unlock the ship's core systems,
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: navigation propulsion. You're sure, Well, we can't be said until
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: someone actually sits in the chair. It looks like it
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: holds you down and shoots bolts into your head. These
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: are merely electrodes, allowing the transfer of data. Do you
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: know what a device like this did to General O'Neil.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: The sheer amount of information overwhelmed them. Yes, it damn
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: near killed them. That's incredible discovery, and it damn near
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: killed them back. The only thing we know for sure
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: as ancient device like this is pretty much a death sentence.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: Nobody sits in this thing. We guard dt ol post it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So what do me to do? Colonell just ignore what
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this chair can do. I'm not telling you to ignore.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you to study it without sitting in it.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I love it when they refer to SG one. It
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: gives me goosebumps. Do you know what that did to General?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I now led to a great discovery? Yeah, the as god?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah and so good man.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I I definitely felt young mare in terms if I
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like to study things before I sit on them too,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: only for a moment, just for a moment.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: You're wait, what's that?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Only for a moment, only for a moment. What's that moment?
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: You're right there with the SG one like they're just
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: mentioning SG one. It's not like what they almost could
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: get away with doing in this show by going, oh,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Stargate Command Unit number one or something like that, going
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: eh is one of those teams.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: That worked for that base that had that gate system.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: You know, we've also got the team that's out there
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: and the pegasusmission in Atlantis, and yeah, it's like no
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: SG one, It's like no, these guys are legendary.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: So it's so cool.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: It is like enterprise, like it has that sense of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it like people know who that is. People in the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: show know who it is, and then it's matter as
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: well because the audience, even if they haven't seen it,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: they know what it is.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely some gravitas because like, yeah, they were
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the frontline team, as they like to say. So yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it's I guess without spoiling anything for Mitch obviously, like
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: you know, we didn't really get any resolution to the chair,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: so we do see it a little bit more throughout
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the season and the questions around it and all that
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and obviously runs some running, some tests
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff on it, because yeah, it
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: didn't really share. Yeah, yeah, I think I think the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: chair is a would plot device for the season, but
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: it just yeah, there's not a lot in this episode
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to go off. Really. I did love when Young's was like, okay,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: sit in it, go just go, yeah, go, And then
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Russia's like, oh well, well hold off, hold on, wait,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: hold on. You know what I was thinking though, but
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: who's gonna who's going to translate when I go ancient?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: That's brilliant because that that's that's what Russia is there for.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: No one else knows ancient as well as him or
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: from Eli apparently. But it was interesting the whole the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: big reveal at the end that the planet didn't exist,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and the false data that Rush was able to put
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: into the computer and all that kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, okay,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: so Russian knows a lot more about destiny than he's
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: letting on like it very much. So far as felt
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like Destiny is very much on autopilot and we're just
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: along for the ride. But the fact that Russia has
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: figured out a way to put information into obviously, like
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you know, an ancient probably look at it and go.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It probably looked like a kid's drawing on your open
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: notes in Yeah, look at ians you type that yourself. Yeah,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: he's an AFFI, David, you know, he's here's here's my
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: rates notice from the from the council I was like, no,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that's not it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I put this in the start menu.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of a PC nothing happened, but it was
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I think it was good thinking by Rush personally because
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he could tell people are on edge, people are getting
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: fired up. There's that bold guy who is making people
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: run around the ship. Yeah, even when they're they're on
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: low calorie diet, which is not good for you.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned that last week aerobic. I thought, yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: that had never occurred to me. The yeah, they're all
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: on in a calorie deficit because they're just eating the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: grul at the moment. They don't have enough food, they
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: don't enough water, especially when yeah, when they're on water
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: rations and then and even when they found fruit that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: was a different timeline, yes, because it was only the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: end of this episode that old mate there was a
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: little tiny sprout that just come out to little hydroponics.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the fact he one of the things he
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: was winging about is there's not enough water and there's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: not enough food. So it's like, yeah, like he was
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: making everyone do laps and they like, you know, even
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Scott had that thing about Eli, you've got to be
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: doing exercises, you know, Young Colonel Young once everybody you
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: know fit, But it's like that for what that's burning
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: calories they can't afford. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, because they're
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: going to need to be drinking a lot more water
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: to replenish what they're losing by exercising all that kind
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: of stuff. So yeah, I'd never thought about that before. Obviously,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: there's an element of I think Young was just doing
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: it from a psychic point of view and trying to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: give people something to do to fill the hours. But yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: like doing military grade like sit ups and push ups
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and running and all the kind of all these you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: basic nerds. It's like, yeah, that's not actually doing what
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you think it's doing.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Doesn't help it. Yeah, you're right, psychologically it would help
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: get the blood pumping. But just doors and well, Chloe
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was doing.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Her were doing, but she.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Obviously reserved the best spot in the ship though, I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: what a what a backdrop to I mean, that's gorgeous
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: out the window.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: The window, Yeah kind of I'm talking about Eli. Obviously, No,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I was just a Camille just going and sitting down
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and just watching Chloe do yoga. Thinking about Sharon. She
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: forgot the boat, but she can certainly see the man
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: in the boat. I'm trying to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Trying to get off destiny. But I guess the controversy
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of the episode is that Eli does find out that
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: Rush planted that information about an Chris type planet and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: then he goes blabbing onto it about it for it
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: to everybody, Yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Which didn't what didn't like two episodes ago, Young be like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I want you to work for Rush, but keep an
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: eye on him and report to me, and like those
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: whole things'll not tell Scott.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we yelled out, so ra can here. Yeah, and
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: then and then at that point, wouldn't you as as
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Young Gomie come here. This stays between the four us,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: not go to Rush and then go oh Camille knows,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: so everyone on the ship knows, just like come on, man, yeah,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, why are you angry Rush? Because
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Rush they kind of buried the hatchet a few episodes ago,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and Rush says, yeah, oh, Young says for the sake
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: of the crew, And he's like, for the sake of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the crew, yeah, And that was for the sake of crew,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: because look what it did to morale. It's like it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: a year, so it's a ridiculous time away yeah, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: also like if they don't find the Icarus planet, he's like, oh,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: the sense is wrong. Yeah, why wouldn't Why wouldn't Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Young Paul Camelle in because it's like, well Young was
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: finding out at that exact same moment.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like he didn't he didn't know either. Like so
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it's like you can't blame Young for that. But I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: think maybe it's you know, like you look at when
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: the doctor whatever his name is, was like having his
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: meanty bee to TJ. He was still very much it
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: was an us and them. He was like, you're not
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: giving us enough food. You're doing this because he's just
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: like the military, the military of the ear so it's
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: his sort of you know, I think amping up the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: divide between the civilians and the military and this. But yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you're right, it would have made more sense to Camille's HR. Yeah,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: and she is the highest ranking IOWA person on board,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: so it's like it would make sense for Young to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: pull her in and work with her, and yeah, that
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: doesn't like having Camille be a part of, you know,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: the leading group of like just I guess maybe it's
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: because Young is military and he's used to a clear
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: chain of command. But it's like if Young goes into
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a room with three generals, who's the general that he
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: listens to the most, you know what I mean. So
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's there's nothing to say that Young, Camille
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: and Rush couldn't be the three leaders of the expedition
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: or something like that, or you know, or ether and
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: she leads the citizens pavilitari and she she she obviously
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: reports to him. Yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And then also the guy from twenty four, the midchestaid before,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the bold guy who's from the Iowa. He's literally told
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: her if he spy on them for us, you'll get
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a promotion. Not that she probably gives a shit about
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: that from where she from her point of view, but
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, at least I can report back that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the Icarus thing is bullshit. Yeah, the Acurus style planet
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: is bullshit. So then she can get in on getting
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: in command potentially.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I thought something was interesting. Is this something that's been
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: established before the fact that they said something about naturally
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: occurring in the Quadria? Because I feel like when we
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: first got introduced to Naquadria, it was on Jonas's planet
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: and it was kind of like native to his planet,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: and then we found out that was because a neuvous
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: had been running experiments on the Naquita and had turned
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: it into the quadria based on some experiments or whatever.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But up until this point, have we had was it
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Anubis or the other guy that was the original goal? Oh?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Could have been the original goal? Yeah, yeah, it could
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: have been the original goal that was on that planet
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: was experimenting and managed to sort of create naquadria or
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: convert the Naquita quad Does it does it occur naturally
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in this like? Have we heard of it occur naturally before?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Ye?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: There? Or is that part of Russia's lie? Because would
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: no one else know that the quadria can't form naturally,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't grow on trees? Yeah? But also Icarus had no quadria,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah, but that was within the Milky Way,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: which is reasonable. Yeah, the reason you could buy that
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: it was you know. So yeah, maybe maybe the naturally
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: occurring quadria was part of the lie, and maybe that
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: was supposed to cure us in as an audience, that
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it was some kind of a lie for the reveal
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: later on. Yeah, that's true. Perhaps, Yeah, I don't know
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: if they would have gone that deep. Yeah, is it?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Is it something because Obviously, it's not something where we're
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: a bunch of Stargate nerds, So it's not something that's
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: full front in our brain about natural versus artificial. No quadria,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: just the writer's point of view. Are they in their minds?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Is it so obvious that the quadria can't be naturally
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: occurring that that's supposed to be a clue to us?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But we haven't really spoken about a quadria since what
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: season six, season seven of SG one. Yeah, because for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the last five years went back. Yeah, for the last
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: five years, it's all been about ZZPMS kind of platform. Yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: we'd kind of forgotten about a quadria, and a quadria
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: was kind of secondary now to zz edpms. Yeah, yeah,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: How do we feel?
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I know we touched on obviously the trickiness of the
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: back and forth with the Stones and the marital dramas
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: or solutions that can conjure up.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: But the convenience civil union Mitchell civil union dramas.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Of course, it was two thousand and nine what seemed
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: to me at the time a matter of convenience that
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: how young was you know, tipped off that maybe old
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Lou Diamond was doing the dirty Was that Scott had
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: a dream and said, hey, maybe because I've been in
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: his body and he's done this that I remember something
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: that I'm like.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Really like, we've it's a hugelye which is so weird.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're watching a show where they're literally using
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: a stone to transport their consciousness across like billion.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Do it, do it? Do it?
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Do it?
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Do it?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Do it?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Cross continue and then that like that happens and I'm like, oh,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: really like that doesn't that doesn't that seems a little
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: far fetched, Like in this show of all things, they
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: add that little extra detail, and I thought they just
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: needed to obviously get to the point where yeah, Young
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: can bust in and scream at Telford, you know, having
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: to be with his wife, and I don't know, I'm like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: how else could we have gotten there? I feel like
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: there's another bunch of different established or just exactly yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you know, some very basic way other than going, oh,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: let's introduce something else into the into the mythology, into
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: the cannon of what these does may be able to do.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: But then it's a big for me, it's a bigger
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: jump going Scott going to tell Young because it's like
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: if I had a dream about Young's wife.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: That's a bit weird.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Telford and Young did swap bodies, and then I've
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: swapped with him, so maybe I'm seeing Young's memory. I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: won't say it because that's ridiculous for me to go
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and cause some shit with my superior. And I've also
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: seen her on a picture in his office, so there's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it's not like he hadn't seen her before.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I wonder if it was eleven it was an eleventh
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: hour like patch, because perhaps the original script was Telford
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: swapped with Scott. So because it'slt have been established that
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: if Destiny drops out of FTL, yeah, you go back
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: into your own body, So perhaps it was originally written
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: that Scott was in Telford's body. So at one point
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Destiny dropped out of FTL and then Scott was back
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: like we saw, saw what was happening. But then that
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have worked for Young to be able to go
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: and confront Telford later. Oh no, no, sorry, no, because
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Young would have been in Telford's body on Earth. So
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: if Telford was visiting Emily, then yeah, he wouldn't have
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't have dropped back. Yeah, he wouldn't be able
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: to go back. So yeah, I don't know that is Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: that is a very weird, weird way to do it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, unless the like the dream was more vivid
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and more realistic and he's more lucid in it. He's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: like he's like your wife, Emily, roast beef or any yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: any or roast beef or are we talking am sandwich
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and how we spoke about it? I don't know. Maybe
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: in the in the episode where Chloe and Eli went
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: back to Earth for their surely even stuff like that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: we're talking about when Chloe was in the car with
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: e Lie, who did she see, like when she was
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: drunk wanting to get back at her boyfriend and stuff
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: like that, well pretty confirmed in this episode. Like it's
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: reiterated it that you see the original owner of the body,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: even if you're both on the stones, you see the
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: original owner of the body. Because when when Scott and
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Camille transferred to Earth, the first thing Camille says is
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Lieutenant Scott, it's me Camille. So yeah, so Chloe, that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a real hit for me to Eli's
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: ego if I was Eli. The fact that Eli was
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: in that hot dude's body, that dude that was getting
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: hit on by other chicks and stuff like that. And
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: even in that body, he got friend zoned by com
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: He didn't even try. But he remember Jack from Hook,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: but you didn't even try, didn't even try. Why would
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: he try? That's who your son Jack's really named after?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Is it is? Did you see the podcast where the
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: guy that played Rufio, he was doing a pod cast
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and he tells the story he lost his virginity on
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: that movie. Robin Williams, unbelievable, not on set, but yeah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: well he I don't know, on one of his off
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: days or something like that, he lost his v card.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: So it's a chubby one with ubb others called Goldberg.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: It wants me a Goldberg. Oh can you believe? In
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: our chat last week talking about our five Desert Island movies,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: none of us mentioned any of the Mighty Ducks films.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: That's a shame. That's a true. Hook is great. Hook's good.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: A little longer, yeah, a little long yeah, it could.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: He could take a just run maybe ten or fifteen,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: just just.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little I'll do a Google to two.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's like one fifty one like
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: an hour fifty one, two hours, fifteen minutes, sixteen minutes. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: see sh sorry it needs to be sub too. I
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: think it could. He could handle to be sub two hours.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Famously, Spielberg didn't even like it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, did we did we need? The slow reveal
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: of Maggie Smith in Old Lady Makeup coming down the stairs?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: How dare you?
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? But she wasn't doing anything. She was just
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: standing there and sihouette at the top of the stairs.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: She's Maggie Smith. You just needed to be Maggie Smith.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: But she wasn't. She was just standing there.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: There was no lines.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: You couldn't see her face, you couldn't see her fara
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: with some acting. How good was Dustin Hoffman? Was pretty good?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: How good?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: We didn't even know it was him for like twenty years?
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: How good was Glenn closest to me? Here's the other one?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the other She was that good We didn't even
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: know that she was.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was wild.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: What did that Let's get the ship out of me?
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Really to torture my kids with that movie?
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Just that scene of bangering? Oh yeah? Was it?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Was it?
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: The order you played in this episode or last week?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I forgot to hit up Mitch about it. The when
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Robert Carlyle was talking about Butchering Sun Dance and he
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: said his dad used to take him before movies a week.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, she need ended up. You go, mate,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I do need to It was a thousand dollars back then. Well,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Mitch doesn't pay for movies either, So there you go.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Still in the cards.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I've got, I've got, I've got a good conscience, so
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I don't like to to use and the views the freebiees.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I think that's my problem.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you're just jealous of the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: fact that Robert Carlos dad had the time to take
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: his four movies a week. And it's just like miss
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: like I would pay full price. I just want the
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: time to be able to take my kids to four
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: movies a week. He was a single dad. Oh there
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the mother left ship crazy story wild. Well, I mean's
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: don't leave Sarah just so you can take your kids
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: to four movies a week. That's not how that works.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Don't don't see any correlation between those two.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: If I went missing, she would know where to find me.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Mini, Matt. I just wanted to add that
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: in that's what ELI called Scott's son. His name was Matthew,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't it. They that's a bit weird to not tell
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: the father of the child about the child, but then
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: named the child after the father that you didn't tell
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the child about, like.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Demons.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And she's a stripper, so no daddy issues whatsoever.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I wrote this note down, and this was six weeks ago,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: so I had no idea what it's referring, but it's
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: written down here. It says you're dirty skank. I wouldn't
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: bang you with Telford's dick. I'm assuming that's about Emily.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I mean,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: but what would Telfords dick be doing matt was in
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Telford's body? Oh yeah, because yah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: you know that makes more sense he does, doesn't it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean, if you've got you're the
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: only one that can be on the stones, if you've
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: got LDP's rig. Plus. I guess it's been established he
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: spends way more time in the Stone waiting room than
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: anyone else because he wants to be on Destiny. Yeah,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: he must just be doing pushups and sit ups all day. Yeah, Yeah, No,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: that's fair. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't go near Matt's
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: baby Mama. God, No, I wouldn't. I mean I could,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I could do some damage if I was in l
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: dp's body for for a couple of hours. But yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't waste that on on Matt's Could you like
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: throwing the sausage in the hallway, Well that's saying not
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: with her, but with l DP. I could do some
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: damage elsewhere, absolutely anywhere. You know what I mean. You
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: know you saw him, You saw him in the towel,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you saw what lou Diamond Phillips was working with.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I had this last bit here. I just thought
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: this was really great dialogue between Young and rush uh
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's quintessential Stargate riding.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: You lie to these people.
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: I gave him a hope, false hope.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Rush.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so was dialing Earth. I knew it
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: was pointless at the taime, but you persisted?
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: Why to brust morale?
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: You tell me the difference? The difference one is a lie.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Who cares? Who else knows about this?
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: That ray over her? So we can assume everyone knows
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: on the shower. Well done, come on, you've just ruined
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: the chance to maximize productivity. I wasn't the one who
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: planet false information. They may very well be and NI
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: Chris type planet buried in the data, they'll be very
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: well be.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I've only begun to scratch the surface.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: But about a lot further on, if you would just
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: let me use that with the chest chair.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: It could be a self vanded could kill somebodifice that
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: they could save.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: The life of everyone else in the ship. I'm not
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: stomping your rush. Go shit, be my guest.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: That's what I thought.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like that. That's good. I stopped paying
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: attention after Rush said one word, and it reminded me
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: of a clip from the Craig Fergus and Show that
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna play. I haven't. We might have to edit
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: around and see how we go. But this is careful.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite bits gaff.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: It is an infuriating argument to have, Like he's having
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: a go at young saying, oh what your dog?
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Your dog? The SGC you dold earth is to boost morale.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you piece of ship.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And he's like, I told you it was a dumb idea,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: wouldn't work. So which one which isn't.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: But then for him to then see what we should
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: have done was telling him there was a planet that's
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: going to help us out, because then it's going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: bruist productivity. Why because then morale is going to be up.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like you
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: just said that his idea was dumb, and then you've
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: essentially explained your reasoning but by the same thing, like
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: it just.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Like that's what makes it a good argument.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Like Evil's advocate though, is Russia's plan doesn't deplete their powers.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: It doesn't use energy, it just uses Oh no, I
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: mean from from Russia's point of view, that's why he
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: thinks his idea is better because yeah, he's just like, well,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I'm going to boost productivity with the minimum. He's a robot,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: he's you know, with the minimum. Well, he's like I said,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: he's a pragmatist. He's like, what is the best what
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: is the best way to meet access his chair? Well,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: we need the code, guys, so anyone who wants to
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: volunteer to jump in the chair. Yeah, it's not guarded
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: at the moment. Hey, chlole, We remember the other week
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: when you were saying you were the most useless person here.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: I've got an idea how you can be useful.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: But as far as the power argument goes, like, is
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: that even an issue anymore?
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Like not now, but like in terms of your argument
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: with Rush saying don't dial Earth on Day one had
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: no power and they didn't know that they could go
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: through the sun, Yeah, the stars. Yeah, that's when Maddie
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: saan Devil's advocate.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, ultimately, in hindsight, they're both doing the same thing. Yeah,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: they're both They're both right and they're both wrong. Yeah,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, which is a really interesting and the thing
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I like about Stargate is it finally got to the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to the point in the argument where it's a satisfying
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: ending and you're like, okay, young one, even if you
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: agree with Rush, young one, because Rush doesn't have the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: balls to sit in the chair. Yeah yeah, in a way,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I guess you could. And I've never really thought about
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: this before, but in a way, I guess Young and
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Rush are kind of like the mirror universe evil version
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: of O'Neill and Jackson. Like O'Neil and Jackson fought like
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: cats and dogs, but always backed each other up even
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: when they didn't agree with each other, you know, because
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I think Daniel had the wisdom to know when to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: back down or know when he was just shouting in
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a brick wall that Jack was incapable of, you know,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: listening to what he's saying. But Jack also had the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: wisdom to on occasion listen to Daniel and actually take
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: his advice and go, it sucks, but you're right.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: And they would, you know, that both of them would. Yeah,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: They're almost like you know that old Warner Brothers cartoon
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: where it was the coyote and the sheep dog that
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: would just kind of like clock off and clock off
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: to yeah, how to say am? How to which did
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you really? That's not actually wildly coyote, that's a different
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: coyota really Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, So it's like
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like Jack and Daniel knew how to clock
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: off on when they were enemies and when they weren't,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: whereas Young and Rush hate each other, I guess, yeah,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it wasn't as bad on Icarus because they could clock off, yes, almost,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: And I feel like Young didn't really have to deal
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: with Rush too much because it was just, hey, we're
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: waiting around for you to figure out this Icrest problem
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: to be able to dial the ninth Chevron, whereas team, yeah,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: he's in charge of the base, whereas Telford was the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: one that was like was going to have to wrangle
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Rush and deal with him and all that kind of thing.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: And now they've been thrust into this situation.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: And I think Rush on Icarus was on his best
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: behavior even ye because when the Senator comes, like, he's
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: all quite prim and proper.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and I pause. So I also think Rush
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: knows Telford's weaknesses. He knows how to massage Telford because
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Telford's Telford's all about the He wants the glory and
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: he wants the the accolades for you know all this guy.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: That's that's one of the reasons why he's so hell
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: bent on trying to get spend as much time on
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Icarus because he wants to be on there, Like he
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: is so like motivated by his career and he wants
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: you know, he wants all that. Like I understand when
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: it was a mystery, when when the ninth Chevron was
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: a mystery, but then when you know it's this kind
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: of a derelic ship, which is a piece of shit. Yeah,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I would do and you can't come home. I think
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Telford just wants that no one else has done it.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: He wants to he wants he wants to do something
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that no other human being has done. He wants to
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: be in charge of that. He has this ambition that
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Young does not have. Young has. I feel like Young
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: has no ambition. If anything. I feel like Young was
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: almost doing his way to retirement. You know what I mean.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, So.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Ye say, glorified position right with Telford to be able
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: to like I should have been there and I'd be
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: doing a better job. But he can't be there, so
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: he can't be doing anything. So he's a he's a
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: very privileged position where he's not in any danger, but
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: he's full of criticism and he probably enjoys that to
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: some extent too.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think once I think he knows the
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: importance of the Icarus project and destiny on you know,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: stuff that we as an audience don't know that Rush
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: has alluded to. I think Telford wants that glory. He
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: wants he wants to take credit for all of Russia's work,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: like all the things that Rush does, and Rush knows
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: how to manipulate Telford to like Telford's a little bit dumb,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He's he can be manipulated Russia.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Rush can can guide him to acquiesce to whatever Rush wants,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: whereas Young doesn't fall for any of that bullshit. And
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: that's why they butt heads, because I think Young sees
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: when Rush is full of shit and calls him on,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: and Russia is like, fuck, I can't manipulate this guy.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: He's like he what was that line? Was it a
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Jack and Daniel line where it's like, I thought you're
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: okay once I roughed when I was once I smoothed
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: your rough edges, and then he said, oh, it's funny,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I thought you were okay once I smoothed your rough
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: edges or something like that. Or I could be thinking
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: of another quote from something else, but I feel like
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I think when they're having the beer at O'Neil's house, Yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: one of those situations maybe early on, you know, when
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: when Daniel left after died or something. Was it when
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Jack left? I feel like I feel like it was
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: when Daniel was going to leave the program but they
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: ended up coming back at the end of the episode.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah you could that, but yeah, yeah, it could have been,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: But I just feel like Rush is like I've spent
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: all this time figuring out how Telford works and figuring
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: out how to manipulate him to get what I want,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: and now I'm stuck with Young, who I don't know
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: how to manipulate or potentially can't be manipulated in the
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: same way. So I think I think that's where a
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: lot of for me, that's where a lot of the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: tension comes from.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Young understands his mote, stands Rush's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: motives better than Telford.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Telford and Rush also both wanted to
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: be on Death They wanted to take part that were
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: going to be part of the expedition. Young had no interest.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: So Young's Young's priorities at the moment are I need
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: to get these people home, yeah, whereas Rush whereas Russias
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: are we need to figure out how this ship works
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: and unlockdown so I can ascend.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Basically yeah, yeah, so you can go and see his
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: dead wife played the violin with her, That's what I assume.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Especially in last week's episode when he talked a
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: lot about ascension as like the afterlife and stuff like that,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: It's like he wants to be with his wife that bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing sucks for him to find out that, you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: she's already dead. So Shikanta said, how can she ascend
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: but she's dead? She's dead? All right?
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: That's us for episode three hundred and nineteen. Join us
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  Speaker 2: one fits in great. But season two they start getting
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