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- 0:22Happy for all days, all the days. We've got some fun stuff to
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- 0:44anyway, and gifted. So we got Coop in the house. We've got
- 0:47some fun stuff to talk about because it's been one of those weekends. Right,
- 0:52We're gonna talk about last week and how I went to the camps.
- 0:56We'll talk about ov weekend as well as who we may have landed. Right.
- 1:00We also got to commit me for twenty twenty six. We're gonna talk
- 1:03about him, dive into that. I also was listening to Oklahoma Breakdown.
- 1:07If you saw my video earlier, got a little heat check, goa talk
- 1:11about that a little bit too, because I gotta get Koop's opinion all the
- 1:14thoughts of the team going forward. So hit us up on the unfairfan line
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- 1:34Happy Sunday, my man. Happy Father's Day to you, Happy Father's
- 1:36Day to all the father's in here. How's it going, a man,
- 1:38Happy Father's Day to everybody out. It's a it's a it's official visit season.
- 1:44So the ramp up, the ramp up is going. It is nice.
- 1:49I bet, I bet James. No, I did not get an
- 1:52offer. I went to the camp and they told me to leave immediately,
- 1:56expeditiously or whatnot. No kidding, but no, there was it was.
- 2:00The camp was cool. Of course I didn't get an offer, but there
- 2:01was a lot of cool stuff that was going on there. Lenman, thank
- 2:05you for pulling up very tipsy. First. Glad that you were able to
- 2:07join us. Robbie, Glad to see you as usual. Same thing with
- 2:10you, Steven G. You're always consistent. Thanks to my people. Happy
- 2:14Father's Day to the dawn. Have Father's at everybody else too. Thank y'all
- 2:17for joining us late. We pushed it back. Of course, a little
- 2:21big Coop was out getting some fishing in with the with the kiddos man.
- 2:25How was that? Uh? Yeah, the uh man got a new fishing
- 2:30pole for the for Father's Day. And so my daughter is, my daughter
- 2:35has fishing traps. We get a pond back behind the house. So she's
- 2:38got fishing traps and a net and everything and uh and she wanted to use
- 2:43my fishing pole. So went out there and we got a couple and found
- 2:46an found a bandoned water snake she almost stepped on. So you know that
- 2:50that kind of stuff. Ate some good food. Uh. I like taking
- 2:53care of my family on Father's Day. It's uh, it's that's I'm not
- 2:58gonna take a day off. It's it's it's time to go. So it's
- 3:00just been great. So doing this a little bit later in the evening allow
- 3:05you guys to wrap up your Father's take fun, right, you know,
- 3:07always no days off. Right, you can go ahead and get that grill
- 3:10or what. Now. I was lucky I didn't have to cook today.
- 3:13I got to enjoy some food. But the best party is of course,
- 3:15Koop. As you said, you were gifted a fishing pole and your daughter
- 3:19want to use it, so she got to basically break it in for you.
- 3:23You know, that's always a big plus, right. The beauties of
- 3:25being a pops man ain't nothing better than being a dad man. Kids are
- 3:29awesome, love mine. They're terrorists. They terrorize me all the time.
- 3:32But I love every minute of it. And it's what you know, just
- 3:36you know, makes enjoyment in life. So if you ever having the opportunity's
- 3:39fun. And what we get to talk about now is other people's kids,
- 3:43right the best part we get to talk about them and send them home.
- 3:46We don't have to actually take care of these, but team will because as
- 3:51fans, we're gonna have to take care of some of these because we know
- 3:53that if we can gain these commitments, we need to. Soone talk camp
- 3:55first, the fun of the camp. So and PG actually hung out a
- 4:01shot up a message he may join, he may not. I'm not sure
- 4:03he. I think he's probably still cooking or whatnot. But we had went
- 4:08to went to the Previtables camp. You know, they had that on Tuesday
- 4:13and Thursday. I showed up on uh. I was able to go on
- 4:15Thursday for a little bit and see some of the skills positions. They had
- 4:20the quarterbacks going as well in the afternoon at the quarterbacks and the wide receiver's
- 4:26going and they had wide receiver dB drills. Think the linebacker was doing some
- 4:29stuff. And let's start about this first. What's going on? Be Rich,
- 4:35thank you for pulling up. Gotta give you that insight for sooner stuff
- 4:39and happy Father's Day. I know that you are, you know'll be up
- 4:43there in Ohio. We'll providing you that sooner content. So thank you for
- 4:46pulling up as usual. But we got to talk about this. This Jane
- 4:50O'Neil quarterback, this situation doub so I saw him in person, and if
- 4:56you follow me on the expert or whatnot, you did see be some videos
- 5:00on him. You saw PG drop, some videos you saw from all the
- 5:03outlets. Yeah, he's the real deal and he he did an interview from
- 5:11correct with Scoop as well as Raff. I did a interview with you folks
- 5:14and basically said, after this unofficial visit and can't visit Oklahoma's is number one
- 5:18team. Then of course you saw the plethora of the crystal balls flow in.
- 5:24So I'm sensing as he had stated in the interview late July early August,
- 5:29Man, we may have our quarterback for twenty twenty six, which is
- 5:32huge to have this summer because that leads us into next recruiting cycle of having
- 5:39someone being busy attracting other talent in and when I heard how he kind of
- 5:45ties in and weaves in with Oklahola, like there's a bunch of strands that
- 5:48cross pass over the years, which is dope but cool. When you saw
- 5:54some of that video, when you saw some of the film, Man,
- 5:57what got you excited about ja do you? First? Foremost? I would
- 6:02say that, you know, when people talk about meeting Adriane Peterson or Samajah
- 6:08p Ryan, like early in Kenneth Murray early in their career. Sometimes even
- 6:14at camps, people were like I walked up to him trying to figure out
- 6:16whose dad that person was, and O'Neil looks like, I mean, he's
- 6:20grown a man, Like he looks like someone's pops, and so it looks
- 6:25like, you know, I should go ahead and tell him, you know,
- 6:29you know, happy Father's Day too, But but no, I mean
- 6:31he you know, right at the first bit, I mean when he throws
- 6:35the ball, it is it's just beautiful and you know from everything that I
- 6:41heard from you guys, and then you know, I would love to have
- 6:44been down there, but I had several doctors appointments and stuff, so I
- 6:47couldn't make it down there. But you know, there was a lot of
- 6:50buzz around him throwing. He looks like Jameis Winston like when he was at
- 6:54Florida State. Yes, that's who he looks like. Right when I first
- 6:59saw and I mean Jameis Winston in college was that dude. And so,
- 7:04you know, disregarding anything about crab legs and everything else, but but no,
- 7:09I mean, he just he's big, He has a he has a
- 7:12grown man's body already. I mean it's the arm strength this guy has coaching
- 7:17out in front of him that's gonna make him better. So you know,
- 7:20what you don't see is decision making. But you know he's going to have
- 7:26some time to to hit it up. So, uh it sounds like this
- 7:31is going to be set up pretty pretty soon. And when as Oklahoma continues
- 7:35to climb, we need the quarterback in place for like a legit dude on
- 7:44the quarterback uh spot, and that helps you get closer to those one of
- 7:47those you know, one, two, three or four class in the you
- 7:50know, for that year, you've got to have that big time quarterback.
- 7:54It's hard for even Oklahoma to have a top one or two class, you
- 7:59know if you don't have a quarterback, a big stud quarterback, not just
- 8:03say you know, taking somebody for the class, but I mean having the
- 8:05dude. So expect this twenty six class to just be absolute fire. And
- 8:11it sets up you know what are we looking at three or four classes in
- 8:13a row where brand Vinnibles is just doing work? So all right, he's
- 8:16and then asking adding to the future, that adding guys that are ready to
- 8:20recruit for the future. And that was the thing that I mean, like
- 8:22I said, what jumped out to me and just watching him just when he's
- 8:26just watching him throw the ball during the camp, I'm just like, first
- 8:31off, like you say, he's huge, I mean he's he's a legitimate
- 8:33sixty three probably too ten, right, I think he's listed at two hundred.
- 8:37He's a legitimate sixt three to ten, if not to twenty. He's
- 8:41a huge human being. And then on top of that, I think what
- 8:45was crazy about him the most was he's a sophomore. Right, so he's
- 8:50saying, age's my son sitting having a conversation with him. Dude, super
- 8:54mature. And you know, his focus was on getting better every day,
- 9:00right. You know, he kind of talked about the recruiting process a little
- 9:03bit and said, you know, there's certain things that's involved, and you
- 9:05you know, you got to pay attention to if it exists. But for
- 9:07me, the focus is getting better every day and really you know, pushing
- 9:11forward. At the same time, when I was talking to PG, He's
- 9:15okay with me saying this. Like Jayden was focused on he was trying to
- 9:20get people there, Like he actually recruited guys to come to the Venables camp,
- 9:31like he told them, Hey, I need y'all to go ahead and
- 9:33pull up and join your boy. And being able to see do that,
- 9:41I mean obvious leadership. Right. And if even if he you know,
- 9:45quote unquote doesn't pick Oklahoma, which I think he's picking Oklahoma, I'm just
- 9:46gonna say that now. He came in with the thought process of I want
- 9:52I want to recruit some folks to wherever I go. So if I can
- 9:56get you to come to the camp that I'm at, we can chop it
- 9:58up, build some relationship, ship rapport and then pushed forward to some and
- 10:01and wherever we end up, hopefully we can end up together. I love
- 10:05that aspect of his personality, and I love that he knows that he's a
- 10:09centerpiece. And of course everybody that watched him believe me, everybody's watching him
- 10:16and was like, oh, this guy's really good, Like there was no
- 10:22denying how good he is, just going through the camps right his awareness.
- 10:28Like the one video I posted on on social media, he was directing his
- 10:35wide receiver and telling him, hey, no go here, Yeah, this
- 10:37is what you're gonna do. And he basically looked at him and kind of
- 10:39mouthed him where he wanted to go. Then the dude get the route.
- 10:41Boom, he stopped back by box launched it and it was a beautiful spiral
- 10:46that landed right in his hand, just in the bucket, right the bucket.
- 10:52So for anybody recognized, this is most likely your QB for the next
- 10:58who this is twenty six. He's gonna he's gonna play. I mean,
- 11:03based upon the sidegold quarterbacks from Jackson Arnold down to Michael Hawkins to Kevin Sperry
- 11:07to him, he's gonna get you at least two years and there's he may
- 11:13be good enough to try to steal a spot early, right, Like he
- 11:18has the the the the pocket awareness and movement mobility to play. Not saying
- 11:26he's Caleb Williams, but he could play like him, especially at his size,
- 11:30like he's not little. That's that's the means what jumped out. So
- 11:35yeah, we we may have quep you one. And it's cool. He's
- 11:37a Cali kid, you know, and there's a linebacker in town with them,
- 11:41with them Michael was it? Uh uh oh he gosh, I always
- 11:48forget how to pronounce his name. That's on me. But he oh sure,
- 11:54I can't think you could do first Anyway, he was in town as
- 11:58well, and they will go to the same school. So he's trying to
- 12:00recruit a linebacker for the class A problem to come here. Yeah, and
- 12:05now he's gonna be a five star like Chaos. No, he will be
- 12:09because right now he's ranked at about like seventy eighth in the country. He'll
- 12:13be our Nick Jackson Arnold. He'll be a top he'll be a top thirty
- 12:16two player in the country by the end of next cycle. That's how good
- 12:20he is. That's how good he is. Yeah, when and then you
- 12:24know when he hits the you know, the Elite eleven and all the quarterback
- 12:28circuits and stuff like that, I mean you're gonna see that. But and
- 12:31I saw where you know, some folks were comparing him to Caleb Williams,
- 12:35you know, from the leadership standpoint and just kind of like the playmaking football
- 12:39IQ, when to pull it down, when when to toss it? I
- 12:41mean, yeah, that he just he's got so many great pieces and you
- 12:46know it's a dad gum shame that he can't find himself a good school to
- 12:50go to over there in California. But you know, we will definitely oblige.
- 12:56And but the leadership piece, I mean he like you said with the
- 12:58line backer, you know, he was talking to Zusie and Heywood. I
- 13:03mean he is just talking to everybody, trying to get folks. I mean,
- 13:07he is trying to set himself up. And so I mean that's what
- 13:11you want in a quarterback, is somebody who's gonna come in because I when
- 13:13you look at the talent and you're like, all right, talents check,
- 13:16there we go, you try to dig into some of the leadership stuff and
- 13:20that's Brentvinnable's way is to get leaders team captain's on here. So I mean,
- 13:26I don't want to freak anybody out, but I mean a guy like
- 13:30this coming in, I mean you start looking because when you see everybody kind
- 13:33of gathering around and oohing and awe and a stuff like that, I mean,
- 13:37you know, you got to be a pretty confident person, you know,
- 13:41like you said, from Arnold to Hawkins to Sperry, and you know,
- 13:46start breaking all that. I mean, everybody, everybody that is in
- 13:50front of him, they know who he is at this point, so you
- 13:54know, hopefully nobody gets scared off. But if that is the case,
- 13:58I mean, this is a dude who you feel good about. Yeah,
- 14:01I feel great about him. And you know, this is a very good
- 14:05point, Brandon, And he makes mention of not saying it isn't important to
- 14:09get a great high school quarterback, but it's not as important as is as
- 14:11it used to be with the Portal. The Portal always have some top notched
- 14:15quarterbacks too. That's a fair point. But it's only if you're willing to
- 14:18get a veteran presence that you could try to quickly acclimate. The best thing
- 14:22is having a quarterback that's been in your system for a couple of years and
- 14:26then they go out there and tear it up. Right. It's it's always
- 14:28having that familiarity with not only the wide receivers and then a dude that's recruiting
- 14:33other players in right. Yeah, transfers are usually coming in solo. Occasionally
- 14:37may bring a wide receiver or a tight end. We saw that with Jackson
- 14:39Dart back in the day. But most of the time they're usually riding solo.
- 14:43And for you, what you want is you want to find a way
- 14:46to get a dude that's going to recruit other players to his class so they
- 14:48can grow together. Right, growing internally through the recruiting process has it still
- 14:54shows it's proven to be the best way. Now as the portal matures and
- 14:58everything gets better, Wolf start to have some actual case studies. So if
- 15:01you can refresher Robb's multiple times I lie a Colorado, then we'll be able
- 15:07to tell if that's something that's viable and that can work. But overall,
- 15:11I'm excited and I'm with you, Steven G. I do see that there
- 15:15is a very great chance that he'll be top fifteen. He's just that talented
- 15:20right, he's getting a lot of attention too as he's going to these camps
- 15:22ATLIT eleven. He'll end up being a probably a finalist. He may win
- 15:26that thing, like Jackson Arnold did. I expect him to be a five
- 15:30star plus for the twenty six cycle. And like I said, we get
- 15:31him, We land him this summer. That just spearheads twenty six with him,
- 15:37Jonathan Hatton and the other recruit we just got. Let's talk about him
- 15:41really quickly. So we got our sun as a commit that literally, literally
- 15:48to me, came out of nowhere, Like I wasn't prepared for this now
- 15:52granted, and some other folks knew that this was a potential because there was
- 15:56some you know, conversations around it. But we got ourselves a uh,
- 16:00we gotta say, it's a tight end for the twenty sixth class. So
- 16:03you've got Jonathan Hadden Junior, the running back that committed last year like randomly,
- 16:11like it went September October or something cool. What was that? It
- 16:14was weird because like you get it, and if I'm correct, the coaching
- 16:18staff at Oklahoma was still in shock that you had that that happened, Like
- 16:23it's like we did you know this dude was gonna commit, But then here
- 16:29this weekend twenty six, you got yourself your tight end in h rider mix.
- 16:33Right. Writer is out of Frisco, Texas tight end. He is
- 16:41nice size, like six' four, but two twenty he's definitely gonna get
- 16:45bigger than that. He has the size to be bigger than that too.
- 16:48Look at that, look at that catch and just hit, just run people
- 16:49over. Frisco, Texas plays at Long Star High School. And I think
- 16:55this is the thing that jumped out to me when I was kind of,
- 16:57you know, reading up on some stuff. Not only if I'm correct,
- 17:00his pops is a legacy OU, but also his wide receiver coach, which
- 17:10that I don't know why to do it. His wide receiver coach is Travis
- 17:14Wilson, who played wide receiver here. He got two Big twelve championships and
- 17:19then his head coach graduated and think played baseball at OU as well. So
- 17:23it's a lot of OU legacy there. But he's out of the Frisco area,
- 17:27and yeah he decided that Nah, wrap it up. I'm here,
- 17:33And the way he plays tougher, I don't like giving people that level of
- 17:40Mark Andrews right now. But hey, you may not, may not,
- 17:42I may not can be argued with it. Cool what you think about that?
- 17:45Yeah, I mean you look at him and there's some of the you
- 17:48know, his highlights we're watching right now. You see some you know what
- 17:52you saw from Vower Sharp, you know when he's coming in. Just the
- 17:55athletic to change the direction is what really just impresses me. He's got good
- 18:00feet, he can stay above his feet, he doesn't extend himself out.
- 18:03And so I mean, yeah, it's hard to say, like, hey,
- 18:07this guy's going to be the next Mark Andrews. But with you know,
- 18:11Zvon Mitchell being on in the fold, I got to think that we
- 18:14get somebody else here. I mean, there's just opportunities when you got guys
- 18:18who are connected to the program. You just don't want to miss out on
- 18:19him. And I do believe that, you know, you got Jonathan Hadden
- 18:25looks like he So I'm looking at the date. The commit was October third,
- 18:29so he's been in the fold for you know, close to nine months
- 18:33now, so you have him in here. So I mean quarterback, tied
- 18:37end running back to start off your twenty sixth class and I'm kind of speaking
- 18:41that the O'Neal piece. Yeah, just I mean, and with the defensive
- 18:47line, and you know there's work that you know, we'll talk about on
- 18:51the offensive line that could be kind of coming fruition. You start feeling,
- 18:55you start feeling really good, and oh, he's going to have a shot.
- 18:57You do some damage in the SEC this year in that twenty sixth class,
- 19:02we've got a chance to pushing number one. Yep, we'll have the
- 19:06opportunity. And I think Jay O'Neil's gonna be a spearhead for that. Right,
- 19:07Jonathan Hatten's gonna definitely continue to rise, especially as he's been showing a
- 19:11lot of speed right his hundreds. I think he's like at the ten five
- 19:15ten six range. I actually he may be faster, and that I may
- 19:18be just misquoting it, but I know he's fast, and he keeps improving.
- 19:23Then you know, Jayden O'Neill will continue to rise, and I think
- 19:27mix was gonna is gonna continue to grow in as just and just as James
- 19:33here pointed out, he's listed it too in a quarter and he looks it
- 19:37like he legitimately looks it. And then when you watch him play, You're
- 19:40like, oh, man, he's nimble, you can move him out in
- 19:42the slot. And so makes you think about like the recruiting here for tight
- 19:47end right now, right, So talk about Von Mitchell when when George Stoyer
- 19:51was on here on Wednesday night, we talked about kind of the way the
- 19:56recruiting has gone at the tight end role. And I know everybody hasn't been
- 19:59quote unquote that's impressed. But the Von Mitchell is a twenty five that reclassified,
- 20:07so he's seventeen years old. He's out there looking like a girl man.
- 20:11So there's a chance that you know, development there is going to continue
- 20:12to grow this class. When I was at the camp, I was watching
- 20:18Treney Washington, the athlete out of Carl Albert. He can play tight end
- 20:23because I mean he's a legitimate six three two twenty he's legitimately that side side,
- 20:30he's a pretty solid dude. He could easily play tight end like that.
- 20:33That's your that's your tight end for this class to add to what we've
- 20:37already got, and the rest of our tight ends is still pretty young.
- 20:40So I think, if anything, you're probably gonna want to take a couple
- 20:42in twenty six to really make sure you boaster up twenty six and probably twenty
- 20:47seven. But I think we have a pretty heavy room. And I also
- 20:52believe, and this is why I want to eat your thoughts on Coop,
- 20:53I still believe that Coach Finley's best chance is to go ahead and continue to
- 21:03live in the portal for tight Ends. What you think, well, I
- 21:07mean, like I can't remember who we said it earlier about, you know,
- 21:10potentially going in there for a quarterback. This is one that you can
- 21:14do. I mean, you look at Jake Roberts, Jake Roberts. I
- 21:18mean, it didn't story us saying Jake Roberts is going to play a lot
- 21:19this year. You know, he may be the starter up friends, and
- 21:26so I mean you can go after that type of guy. But I mean,
- 21:30you with the young crop that you have on here, you kind of
- 21:34I mean, you're gonna need somebody who can come in and just you know,
- 21:38maybe be some leadership and be a Jake Roberts type of the guy,
- 21:41because I mean, some of the talent's going to start scaring folks away,
- 21:45and it's you're going to have to have just that that we're good right now,
- 21:51the tight Ends I'm happy Helms is Helms is starting to kind of put
- 21:55some stuff together. The help is there now you know you still got macins
- 22:00Hire. It's the tight end. This is what I would say with jo
- 22:03John Finley. Don't let any potential Ohio state commits affect your thoughts on Joe
- 22:11John Finley. The situation is just kind of a one off. He's putting
- 22:15in work with Von Mitchell coming in, Yes, Hawkins helps out with that,
- 22:18but you got to have team recruiting with the coaches to play in the
- 22:22big boy leagues. No, and that's fair. It's it's the one thing
- 22:29that I feel like JJF is at a disadvantage is on that the way that
- 22:36we've leveraged tight end since he's been part of this regime. So, like
- 22:40you mentioned, I think it's just got to take some time. We've got
- 22:42to prove it. My only fear that I've had this year is dog our
- 22:47wide receiver room is pretty stacked, right, And it's not that it's just
- 22:51stacked with kids that we like, but it's it's it's it's proven statistically like
- 22:59we're bringing back like over three thousand something yards right in production, including if
- 23:03you had your transferring in at six hundred additional yards. We got a lot
- 23:08of talent coming through on the wide receiver side. But if we can find
- 23:11a way to levers a tight end and show that no, the tight end
- 23:15is one that we care about, there's a very very good chance that we
- 23:19can uh may do something. So yeah, and I won't say that you
- 23:29listen, you could be very very excited about the recruiting, the high school
- 23:33recruiting, but let's be honest, we have I mean, look at Bryce
- 23:41Foster. Bryce Foster was like one of the biggest misses, one of the
- 23:44biggest meltdowns that we've ever had when he chose A and N Well, he
- 23:48just didn't pan out. So I mean, you you're still going to have
- 23:51those situations where we win, we pay a guy he you know, we
- 23:55play the nil game and he shows out and he doesn't turn out. You
- 23:59know it. There's it's different. It's different being made on campus when you're
- 24:03a high school senior. But you come on to campus and I mean,
- 24:07let's be honest, you're a student athlete, but I mean you're putting in
- 24:11a good amount of time on the football field and sometimes it just it isn't
- 24:14for everybody, and sometimes that passionate fire kind of disappears. So you want
- 24:18to continue to build these recruiting classes, get these quarterbacks. I mean,
- 24:22hell yeah. If I could say, like next one up, let's let's
- 24:25put a just top quality, borderline four star, five star center in with
- 24:30this crew, and that is your four wall foundation for a for a pretty
- 24:34darden good class. Sermon, that's real. So I think this class is
- 24:41gonna round out very nicely. And yeah, I like where we're going with
- 24:48twenty six. We're already starting early. Twenty five started off super early for
- 24:52us, if you'll remember, so kind of a level set things for those
- 24:56that I know maybe having some questions of wondering for twenty twenty five. The
- 25:03reason why we started super fast than that class was in twenty twenty three,
- 25:11the NCAAA had only extended for two years if they did not limit how many
- 25:15scholarships. If for the uninitiated before that, the limit was twenty five scholarships
- 25:22per season. Right, you're gonna have no more than twenty five signees for
- 25:25your class, and right at COVID they changed that. Then when the portal
- 25:30stuff came through, the coaches complained and said look, you're allowing kids to
- 25:33transfer at least one time, just our Willy Milly. Well, we need
- 25:38to be able to fill our rosters with somebody, right, We're not gonna
- 25:41always be able to get transfers. And so they lifted the restriction of how
- 25:45many scholarships you could do per class. And that's when you start to see
- 25:48these bigger classes like we had with twenty seven last year and twenty six a
- 25:52year before. You start to see those bigger classes. Well, the NCAA
- 25:56ruled on it in twenty twenty three that they're gonna to just keep it going
- 26:00forward, and so twenty four wasn't gonna be the last year moving forward.
- 26:04Your numbers eighty five, so if you want to, you can recruit eighty
- 26:07five kids. Ain't nobody gonna recruit eighty five freshmen because nobody wants eighty five
- 26:11freshmen to try to play. You gotta have experience if you want to survive
- 26:15in this game. But now it's unlimited as far as it's it's whatever scholarship
- 26:21you have available. So for this class, so twenty five, all these
- 26:25kids started to get in early because there was rumbles that people believed it was
- 26:27going back to twenty five, so you start to see a lot of these
- 26:30kids jump in early. That's why this year was the anomaly of all the
- 26:33other years we've had, because typically we get most of our commitments in July.
- 26:38July is the staff encourages doing your official visits. But when you raise
- 26:45a lot of things down, lock it down and then go nowhere else,
- 26:48and it's usually in July. So July is when most of them finish up
- 26:52their last visits because quiet period ends at the end of it starts next month,
- 26:59not the Monday. Come up with the Monday after that, and then
- 27:02it goes all the way through to the end of July. And this we'll
- 27:03have our party at the palace at the end of the month. And so
- 27:07because of that, that's the anticipation that you know, we'll probably see more
- 27:11commitments. Now we gotta start talking about these twenty five kids that he come
- 27:17to visit, because we had a lot of them first of the list looks
- 27:19like it popped up. I think I want to talk about him. Elijah
- 27:22with Lindez, Oh boy Coop see the pictures. That's how the pictures about
- 27:33the pretty dope and uh, he would like he enjoyed himself. Why can't
- 27:41we play with these jerseys more often? These jerseys are so I mean,
- 27:45they're so dope. I it's like every one of these pictures look, I
- 27:52mean just look, I mean just absolutely phenomenal. And they're like, let's
- 27:56let's keep them for recruiting. This is the one that I love. This
- 27:59is everybody love. Yeah, yeah, right, the Miami ALIU to a
- 28:10kid that's currently committed to Miami, Miami. And based upon all the social
- 28:18media posts that we've seen, I saw something from ou Insider if I'm correct
- 28:21Scoops Pop something on social media's kind of some interviews they have. Check out
- 28:23their articles if you're subscribed. If not, feel fretty subscribe the Insiders.
- 28:29They always got some great detail in there. They able to get a lot
- 28:32dig a lot deeper into there. And one thing I saw in there is
- 28:36that Oklahoma has flown up the list right in the social media posts, They're
- 28:41up, like up, like to the point where he's like, they have
- 28:45a legitimate chance. There's a good shot. He was very much impressed,
- 28:48and he liked the fact that when he got in there, you had BV
- 28:52in there really talking details, Ali talking details about his game and how he
- 28:57fits what Okaoma's doing. I think Olhoma really wants him. I think he's
- 29:00the linebacker. If there's a linebacker in this class that they will to get
- 29:03their hands on outside of what we already got. That's the one I'm sensing.
- 29:08This is the dude. How you feeling about him? I mean you
- 29:15I feel good about him. I'll leave it there. He he this is
- 29:19this is one of those linebackers that he just reckless abandon. I mean,
- 29:26it reminds me of Lewis Carter h So you know, I just go with
- 29:32this is when you when you're doing pictures like the like the Dunk one,
- 29:37you're kind of saying something and it's just not it's just not. It's just
- 29:42not what you want to see as a my I mean, Miami's taken some
- 29:45l's from Oklahoma here recently, and I'm just gonna go ahead and say that.
- 29:49You know, if anybody's connecting dots on that piece down there in South
- 29:52Beach, they are not very excited. And so I mean, I love
- 29:59for him. You absolutely flip. If we hear that, you guys will
- 30:03find it out here first. And so we you know, this is a
- 30:07this is a kid though that oh you had did they did what they were
- 30:10supposed to do this weekend. Yeah, and we did our homework with him
- 30:15or whatnot. When you see him as far as size wise six, I
- 30:18saw him somewhere like six to two, about two and a quarter so big
- 30:22linebacker, big linebacker originally someone mentioned in the comics is originally from Florida.
- 30:30Simphy Green said, send him to Morgantown. That's funny. I love it.
- 30:33I'm totally with that, my man. If you know, if we
- 30:37do get tired of him, we'll send him there. Both think we will
- 30:38get tired. But yeah, no, I mean consensus composite four star,
- 30:44top two hundred player in the country. I talked about him in a video
- 30:48on the Sooner or Later Sports channel. He he likes to hit people,
- 30:53right, kind of like you know, you're excitement around the Criminson missile.
- 30:57He likes to hit people and that fits right in them of what Brent Vinnables
- 31:03and staff is doing. So yeah, if we can get a hold of
- 31:07him, done deal. But that picture is dope. I love this and
- 31:12I and I tweeted it. He said he has an a NonStop motor or
- 31:18what however he words it on there, does that not sound exactly like the
- 31:21guy that Brent Vinnables and Zach Ally want? Yes, I mean, yes,
- 31:26is the answer to that question. It is the exactly. It's a
- 31:29nose for the football you you play. And you know what, it's great
- 31:33because he is a linebacker and you know it's not converting a you know,
- 31:37a high school quarterback athlete to a linebacker. I mean, he knows how
- 31:41to play this game. And so I got to think that if we do
- 31:44flip him, that is a conversation that Ali and Venables are having with him
- 31:48and helping him and working with him this whole in season, this whole season
- 31:52and getting him prepared. They're going to start that coaching pretty quickly. And
- 31:56I mean, I just love to sit in with a guy like Lewis Carter,
- 32:00Elijah Mendez Mendez and get in there and I'd like to be a fly
- 32:04on the wall for a film session with like him, Venables and Ali just
- 32:07watching linebacker stuff. I mean that would just be an absolute I mean joy,
- 32:14No, I agree, And then of course you had the visit.
- 32:15If we're going to continue the linebacker conversation, you got this guy, right,
- 32:21here, the California kid. I'm a post up here. Give me
- 32:25a second if I can get my computer to act right. But you got
- 32:30Michael ian Ucher, that's his name, ian Ucherer, linebacker. He's the
- 32:36one from California. That was his boy asked him to pull up right.
- 32:44He was actually invited by well, I think j and O'Neill was there while
- 32:47because he was doing his visit while jan O'Dell was in town. And this
- 32:52dude rumor has he he enjoyed his time here at Oklahoma. And so since
- 32:59that's the case, that's another linebacker option we have. I do like him.
- 33:05I like his game. I'm still big on Melndez because if you think
- 33:09about it, linebacker wise, we probably won't take two in his class.
- 33:13Right, you're your Your athlete is Marcus James six three two twenty. He's
- 33:23legitimate two in size. Carl Albert. That's one linebacker, and now we
- 33:27got to figure out who the second one. Now, I would like to
- 33:30have two. I wouldn't complain about having two more, but I believe it's
- 33:34probably gonna be Marcus James with hopefully one of these two at linebacker. What
- 33:39you thinking, Coop? Yeah, I don't. I mean, just with
- 33:44the numbers that you're looking at, I mean, you gotta think that there's
- 33:49gonna be one. I gotta think that there's just one spot left. And
- 33:52I'm not gonna cry on either of those two guys. And you know,
- 33:57obviously with Reggie Powers on the team is a big dude, and he says,
- 34:01Melndez is a big dude, so right, I'll take I'll take stuff
- 34:07straight from the players every day of the week. And he is committing July
- 34:12first, Melndez is and I'm not know about not sure about Mark, but
- 34:15Melndez definitely is, so yeah, I don't know, but he's he's nice,
- 34:21he's he's pre he Neutier is a pre nice sized dude as well.
- 34:25And so I'm actually curious which one Oklahoma truly prefers who can who they can
- 34:31land because I'm here with with with Mark, the SMU is really winning a
- 34:37lot of that battle. But he comes in. I mean, he's a
- 34:40nice size as well. Six two two fifteen out of a Narbonne, Harbor
- 34:46City, California, same school as I mentioned by Jay O'Neill. So they're
- 34:51teammates. And I mean, of course, as we said, he wants
- 34:55to stack talent with them, so he's seen them play. He believes he's
- 34:59good and and Oklahoma does too, because we gave my offer and immediately scheduled
- 35:02his ov to get him in town to try to have this conversation. So
- 35:07I like Mark, I do. I like Mark a lot, leaning more
- 35:10me Lindez. We can steal him. But either one of the two,
- 35:14I know this staff. I'll make him good. Yeah it's again. I
- 35:20think that at six and one half a dozen the other. I would love
- 35:22either of these two guys. I've got a video on Mark that maybe maybe
- 35:28when you're not dropped here earlier in the week, just a little film breakdown,
- 35:30a little quick one of him. And I mean he is a guy
- 35:35who again seeks out contact. He is nimble on his feet, He runs
- 35:39around and when he comes he comes with some with some thumb at sosolutely all
- 35:45right, O line. We had a visitor, so I did a video
- 35:49I recorded earlier, edited, but I didn't publish it. I forgot and
- 35:53went looked stile. She didn't pulish it. I probably need to go and
- 35:55publish it. Went published it. It has some information in there that was
- 36:00not as accurate. So scoops had put out their document, their the graphic
- 36:05about who was also to visit this weekend. Right, you have Mark on
- 36:07there, you had Melndez, he had all the big offensive linemen, but
- 36:10one was on there that did not make which was Ty Heywood. It appears
- 36:15that Ty is rescheduling his visit for this week instead of over the weekend because
- 36:22of a family emergency and supposedly, I think Parker mentioned that it's a legitimate
- 36:29one when when someone talked about it, and so he's expected to be here
- 36:34within the next you know, the next few days. I think maybe around
- 36:38the nineteenth or something like that. So it's what the sixteen is a finably
- 36:42nineteenth, it's when the camps and stuff. But we didn't see this guy,
- 36:45the one that y'all won't Michael Fasussi, big time offensive lineman that is
- 36:52yeah. And he's taking a picture with the ub eaten boat calling him the
- 36:55goat, which you know, gets everybody excited. I'm ready to see what
- 37:00all of the actual articles and stuff say about him, because everybody's excited about
- 37:07him and hopes that there's a good chance that we can we can land him.
- 37:10He's a huge human being as well, right, which I love this
- 37:15picture. This one made me smile. Coop, how do you feel?
- 37:16What do you think? What do you think about for Susie who's right there
- 37:20knocking on five star plus status. I mean, Fasusie is a guy that
- 37:24if you, if you do a lot of uh listening to podcasts across listen
- 37:30to the guys who are doing breakdowns. I mean, this is the guy
- 37:32who could step in day one whatever program he goes to and be a starter,
- 37:37a major contributor of rotation in. I mean, this is this is
- 37:42He's been to Oklahoma dozens of times, he knows everything about and he is
- 37:46getting his pool from Texas, He's getting pooled from elsewhere. And you know
- 37:52we've always said that shout out to our boy PG. Uh. He you
- 37:55know, he speaks to a lot of these guys and pretty consistantly and uh
- 38:00you know PG at times has had smiles on his face, and that time
- 38:05has had very very you know, very straight, you know, neutral face.
- 38:09You know when he's talking to us and he's smiling right now. So
- 38:13you know, if you if you land for Sussi, this is one that
- 38:17that makes you very very very confident you match him with with boj who's already
- 38:22on and you know he's still in on several other guys, and we are
- 38:28a we are a few offensive linemen. I expect offensive linemen to continue to
- 38:34drop and commit, you know, between here and the signing day. Let's
- 38:40see how many we take. I think that we're going to have a few
- 38:44offensive linemen in this class. Yeah, no, that's fair. And I
- 38:49know that Texas is a big player in his recruitment. He is the one
- 38:52guy that you know, Texas really wants. But of course you see the
- 38:57numbers here on them size wise five star. Only one that done have a
- 39:00five star right now is on three, but he's number thirty two, So
- 39:05technically in their metrics he is a five star. But I think by the
- 39:07time the end of the cycle, he's a five star plus top you know,
- 39:10fifteen player in the country. I know Texas leads with him in Louisville,
- 39:15but rumor has it he likes Oklahoma as well, and so if he
- 39:22likes Oklahoma the way that we think he likes Oklahoma, yeah, sign yet
- 39:28we need him, Jay, this is not going to be one that the
- 39:32decision. I don't think Nil will be the finality for this. I think
- 39:36Nil packages are going to be pretty good one way or the other. I
- 39:40don't think Ksusi is a guy who is just going to be like I like
- 39:44Texas, like Oklahoma absolutely equally, and I'm gonna choose this one because of
- 39:47Nil. I don't think that's the case. I think I think he continues.
- 39:51He's been here several times and I'm pretty sure that when I mean,
- 39:58I'm pretty sure this is Sorry. I was thrown off by the dogs too,
- 40:01Sorry about that. Yeah, they were losing their minds just now.
- 40:02I don't know why they were there. They fight for they knew dog do
- 40:10they're lett him out, shouting out Susie's I like that. Well we'll go
- 40:15with that because that's definitely not what happened. But yeah, but no,
- 40:22no, right, I hope Oklahoma does what they can to like fight for
- 40:29this one. I've heard that. I've heard from a few people. I've
- 40:31seen a few people talk about this on socials. Then Oklahoma wants to make
- 40:37a big splash on the offensive line, and he is that guy. He's
- 40:43one of those right him, Lamont Rodgers, Ty hey Wood. They really
- 40:46want to make a splash. So if we do what we need to.
- 40:52There's a chance, right, So what y'all think. I think we got
- 40:58a good chance of laying hands on one of these big time offensive linemen.
- 41:01So you had Fasussie pulling up our boy. Emmett Jones was doing what he
- 41:08does best. He had this young man in town, Cortez Mills, kind
- 41:14of shocked me. Wide receiver consensus by the four star top roughly one hundred
- 41:19player in the country. He's right there and he can play. I wouldn't
- 41:23look at some of his feeling like, oh he's a playmaker, especially at
- 41:27his height, like I actually think that he's under height on this one.
- 41:30I think he's closer to six one sixty two. But he can ball.
- 41:37He's good. He had him and he also had Marcus Harris, so you
- 41:39had two wire receivers that came out. I know where Quincy Porter is supposed
- 41:43to come next week. He committed to Ohio State a couple of days ago,
- 41:49So the big question is being okay, does he still make the trip.
- 41:52I think he probably still makes the visit because that's one of the schools
- 41:54where kids committing and they go visit elsewhere. Still, but hardline is just
- 41:59that good that there's no concern for them. You know, it's one of
- 42:01those should I be worried? Nah, because uh yeah, our guy is
- 42:08Brian Hartline. So Emma Jones was working wide receivers and since and we're probably
- 42:14gonna take one or two. What you think Emma Jones is just that guy.
- 42:22I mean he gets the conversation. Not every single wide receiver who's going
- 42:27to show up in Oklahoma. It's going to be a commitment. But I
- 42:30think that there's there's a lot to be said about who he. I mean
- 42:34again, when you're just saying Cortez Mills, like, I mean he that
- 42:37wasn't That wasn't something that like Cortes Mills has been a guy that's been playing
- 42:42this for a long time. Emm it just continues to do work. And
- 42:45we knew that with the wide receiver class this year, we were going to
- 42:47be looking at, you know, a couple of guys and I would just
- 42:52I just continue to say, I mean, the guy needs a raise.
- 42:54He I mean, Heartline has the belt right now for you know, top
- 43:00cruiterer. But Emma Jones had a couple more a couple more years where he's
- 43:07putting together these wide receiver classes like this. I mean, he's gonna be
- 43:09He's going to be in the ring with Heartline as that top guy. And
- 43:13then you know, if Hartline ever takes an offensive coordinator position, you know
- 43:16that that that makes it a little bit more difficult. But I mean,
- 43:20Cortes Mills is a guy who, I mean kind of has somewhere between Sterling
- 43:23Shepherd and Hollywood Brown. I thought this also, mighty put that in there.
- 43:27I mean, he's bigger than Hollywood. He's about the size of Sterling
- 43:30and and you know, the guy just signed another contract in the NFL.
- 43:34I mean, he has had a lot of injuries. But when you are
- 43:37a great dude and you are a good football player and a great teammate,
- 43:40people are going to continue to go after you and have you come in and
- 43:44again, more and more and more just quality guys coming. And then again
- 43:49if you throw in success in the SEC there's still to a lot of these
- 43:53kids and a lot of people outside of Oklahoma, there's still a lot of
- 43:57people who are waiting to see so you know, wait wait until the winning
- 44:01starts. On top of the continued stacking of just absolute guys and competitive depth
- 44:09at every single position, lemon. You cannot take a drink, You're cut
- 44:14off. So so vodkaic commercial that does the take a water break, I'll
- 44:20take Colin a water break, Colin a water break, all right. So
- 44:25this just happened. We had a commitment for twenty twenty four. Sounds like
- 44:32it was a PWO. Now I saw this dude. Oh man, it's
- 44:38been about a week. We saw this Devin O'Neil, Devin Owen, I'm
- 44:47sorry, Devin Owen out on our gal Texas twenty twenty four safety he Safety
- 44:58six and we saw him and his I think it's an Instagram and his Twitter
- 45:06account or ex what is gonna call it expert was on there and he committed.
- 45:14He shown in there in his in his description that he was a we'll
- 45:17go up here dB at o U, which was interesting because we was trying
- 45:23to figure out who his dude is, right I who is that? Well,
- 45:29it appears he got a offer in June and then June twelfth, and
- 45:37then a few days later he went ahead and just straight committed. So the
- 45:39graphic drop Colin Kennedy. He's actually put out an article on it. Make
- 45:44sure y'all check that out. But I went to go find of course his
- 45:47film, y'all know me, you have to go look at who gonna gonna
- 45:52were gonna play a little film while we talk about him, and I was
- 45:54kind of wondering, hmmm, who this dude is, because I right,
- 46:01I heard of him before, right, And it appears that uh, he'd
- 46:09play so he played safety, hronto safety and outside linebackers. So it sounds
- 46:15like a quote unquote Chetao. And I don't know, I don't think he's
- 46:22he's a p WO. But it's not bad. You're stacking talent that's big
- 46:27and fast enough to cause problems. Coop, had you heard anything about this
- 46:30dude? I mean, like you said, uh, there was some traffic
- 46:36and then it just disappeared and then now here he is this guy all right,
- 46:39when you're when you when you bring p W. I was in like
- 46:42this guy this is nothing, but you know, great depth, A motor
- 46:46guy, a guy who is going to go out and it does not matter
- 46:50when he's on the practice field. He is going to continue to be one
- 46:53of those people who just is I mean, look, look look at Boganowski,
- 46:58Like I that's kind of what you see here is just a guy who
- 47:00just wants to go out and do some work. And so yeah, these
- 47:05guys, these are absolute dudes. And another another Brandon Hall, just go
- 47:08ahead and bring in in, uh, you know, just a safety role
- 47:12and uh throw him in with a bunch of other dudes. It's you can't
- 47:15you can't help it. I mean, it's it's when you've got such quality
- 47:19kids just coming in over and over and over again. And plus uh you
- 47:22know, you got uh you know, Bogo and Powers already on deck.
- 47:27They are gonna, you know, they're gonna take in this guy and they're
- 47:29gonna work with him too. And so you know, you're you're, you're,
- 47:32you're nice. And he's throwing out highlights with the caveat that Hey he's
- 47:36got an ankle spring and he just took it to th house. No right,
- 47:44and so yeah, so this is the safety is this is the safety
- 47:46to just commit it. And I just no clue. He's just he's just
- 47:51out of nowhere. Right, we beget these random commitments with you know,
- 47:54I'm not complaining about right, if he can play, if they feel like
- 47:58that he can add value to a little bit of not any competitive depth,
- 48:00but you know, good guys for like you know, practice and all of
- 48:05that. You gotta have good bodies in order to be successful, especially in
- 48:07the SEC, because that's the one thing that happens at the SEC is you
- 48:12lose bodies fast. But you need guys that you could train against and all
- 48:14of that. Yeah, I did not see that coming. But hey,
- 48:20welcome to the foe. Guys, what was the fall? We appreciate your
- 48:25service. We want you here, welme in a nation. So what I'm
- 48:30Jason, see you in here Hall of Fame. Emmy Jones of course he's
- 48:37Yeah, Emmy Jones is trying to get himself another race, and he's gonna
- 48:42have me advocating like crazy for him once again, just because of that.
- 48:47And then of course Marcus Harris, he's another wide receiver that we're looking at.
- 48:52I just pull him up, actually pull him up now, Coop,
- 48:55do we need to go ahead and pay hmm Jones more money? And Timmy,
- 49:00I'll pass away the collection plate. Everybody toss it in there. And
- 49:06but yeah, also, yeah, if you guys see, if you guys
- 49:07see any of the shirts, the bread vitibles and stuff like that, you
- 49:10know, hit up Jay, hit up myself. Let us know, you
- 49:13know, we've got some more stuff. Do we have the the shirts available
- 49:17for purchase? Jane. We had a couple of people saying, yeah,
- 49:21yeah, yeah, it's it's on the it's in the description below. Just
- 49:25go to the merch shop buy them up. Yeah, we've always got the
- 49:30shirts available. They're on a print on demand, so they're available. Got
- 49:34some more designs coming soon to add for the football season, face some retro
- 49:37fields or whatnot. But yeah, shirts there ready for you all. Let
- 49:42me get Marcus Harris's film up at a matter day. He is from California,
- 49:52another you know, California, California wide receiver, feels that we have
- 49:55this thing for these Cali kids. And he's actually really good too, So
- 50:01let me go ahead and add that for y'all's enjoyment. I mean, do
- 50:07you think that while you're pulling that up, do you think that Lincoln Riley
- 50:13sees these types of things, like my disdain for Lincoln Riley, like he's
- 50:17gotten what he's deserved. Everybody thought he was going to be off to the
- 50:21NFL. That luster has disappeared, dissipated quite a bit. And yeah,
- 50:25I mean, I just got to think that he sees all these Cali guys
- 50:29going back out there, and all the garbage that he dropped about recruiting Mecca
- 50:32and all that junk. I mean, it just continues to make me laugh
- 50:36just because it's I mean, when you have a school with tradition, you're
- 50:40going to draw and then when you have a program set up like this,
- 50:45it's just it's just these guys want to come out here. I mean,
- 50:49the pipeline doesn't seem to be stopping Florida and Calli kids. They don't mind
- 50:52coming to Oklahoma now, they really don't. And it seems to be something
- 50:57that we're trying. And the good thing is is we recruit not only Okay
- 51:00Prep, but we we do the nationwide piece. Of course, Texas is
- 51:04one of our biggest hot beds because you know, we own the northern part
- 51:06of it. But we're we're going for the Florida's right. Like as we
- 51:10all know, Breventables loves his Florida linebackers. You know, he inherited Stutsman,
- 51:15but he brought in you know, Lewis Carters of the world. He
- 51:16loves players, especially for Tampa Catholic, Right, that's the school that he
- 51:21talks. He praises the most epl came from there, right him and Lose
- 51:24Carter You they they're heavy in that area. Same thing with California. Uh.
- 51:31We we have a tendency of stats. Some guys up from there,
- 51:34you know, lone Star High School. That's when Marvin Uh, that's where
- 51:37MEM's came from. And as well as now writer mix. We like,
- 51:42that's what we like to do. We like to like to recruit nationwide.
- 51:45That's very big in the philosophy of this staff. It's say, if we're
- 51:52gonna win national championships, we can't just do it here. But looking at
- 51:53him, Marcus Man five to eleven, roughly six feet, I think he's
- 52:00one thing to show me. One of his deals showed he's about six feet.
- 52:02We'll figure out whatever his combine actual height it is. But he's a
- 52:07good route runner, gets open, can jump, finds high point the ball
- 52:10pulls it in. I see why Emma Jones was going after him because you
- 52:15had him on the list. You have I think many choice as well as
- 52:17Andrew marsh coming next week. Like Emmett's on a role in pulling in elite
- 52:24wide receiver play if we can get if we how many wid receivers can you
- 52:32have. It makes me think about like Ohio State and what they're doing and
- 52:35all these wide receivers, Like how many great wide receivers can you have?
- 52:37Right? At certain point we gotta figure out something, right, Well,
- 52:42I mean theoes Trajan Bridges. You can get all the stars you want,
- 52:49and between injuries and just stuff that doesn't happen, I mean you you always
- 52:54want to take it. And yeah, I mean because you just got to
- 52:58think. I mean, there's going to be Look at Jamison Williams. Jamison
- 53:00Williams leaves Ohio State because he is behind I mean first round draft picks galore
- 53:07right, and so he goes to Alabama and he shows out and he becomes
- 53:10who he is. Now, if you can quit the gambling and everything that,
- 53:14you know, it's a different story. But but you you want to
- 53:17take these guys, if these guys want to come here, you want to
- 53:20take the people who who if they want to be here, let's let's let's
- 53:22oblige. Let's let's bring him in and let's go. Because you know,
- 53:27this is a quarterback driven league. When you have the quarterbacks in the fold
- 53:30that we already have and the ones coming down the bike guys are going to
- 53:36flock to it. They're going to go and especially when you know, if
- 53:38if Marcus Harris pulls up and he's like, yeah, let me see what
- 53:42this is about, and he sees O'Neill out there dropping bombs, he sees
- 53:45the Sperry family there, he sees Jackson Arnold, he sees Hawkins. He
- 53:50talks to these players, and you're just like, I mean, where where's
- 53:53the weakness at quarterback? At that point, you just have like stud after
- 53:59stud after stud. So let's let it roll and just bring in the guys.
- 54:02And if you I personally believe this, I'm want to say something semi
- 54:07controversial because when we got a specific defensive back and he chose US over Alabama.
- 54:19This is a few years ago. This guy transferred out and let latromacutchem,
- 54:24I didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. And I thought I've
- 54:27always thought, man, did he not go to Alabama because he kind of
- 54:30knew and so he came here. And I thought that that's how we got
- 54:35some of the bigger in defensive recruits. Was we got guys who just I
- 54:40don't think that they really wanted to step up and that's the previous regime.
- 54:45Now people want to come and play for Venables. They want to play for
- 54:49Baits, they want to play for Chavis, they want to play for Ali,
- 54:51they want to play for Coach Hall, they want to play for Vallai.
- 54:54They want to play and they know that this is no longer just an
- 54:59absolute you with best on defense. You are a dude, and you are
- 55:02You've got to be a guy to come on this defense and actually show up
- 55:07and be a player. So now these guys that are committing wide receiver,
- 55:12safeties, defensive backs, linebackers, defensive lineman. Here soon these guys want
- 55:16to come and they know what's in front of them and they're ready to compete.
- 55:20And that's where you want to be as a program. Yeah, you
- 55:22gotta competition and iron shoppers, iron all the cliches you got behind that that's
- 55:29critical, right, That's critical for success in the SEC as we all know
- 55:34of it. Right, So all right, we're gonna wrap this up.
- 55:37Last thing, I was watching Oklahoma Breakdown. I think they had an interview
- 55:39today with Lane Johnson. Everybody's talking about it. That will be my listening
- 55:43for tomorrow at the gym tomorrow morning. If he says anything controversial, of
- 55:47course I will talk about it. But they did want Andy Staples at on
- 55:53three. He has his own show, the Andy Staples Show. He does
- 55:57every like every morning at like eight o'clock. He's and something like that.
- 56:00Anyway, and Coop ain't watched it. If you all haven't watched it yet,
- 56:07not gonna be spoiling too much. I want you to go watch it.
- 56:08I'll make sure to put in the description below. But I put out
- 56:10a video earlier talking about one of the experts kind of giving an idea of
- 56:15what they thought about, you know, Oklahoma and the SEC and all of
- 56:17that. And there was two things that jumped out to me that Andy spoke
- 56:21about. There's a long list of things he talked about in there about Oklahoma
- 56:24and Texas is really good. But two things. One talked about Jackson Arnold,
- 56:29and he said, of course, you know, with Jackson Arnold,
- 56:30you only got one game of tape, but you saw good things out of
- 56:34him there. And you also see him being a true freshman, which to
- 56:37me makes me feel good, right. I like that people recognize that,
- 56:40oh, he made a true freshman mistake, meaning that they recognized that he
- 56:45shouldn't do that same thing as a sophomore, So that kind of gives him
- 56:47a little bit of grace. But you saw really good things that could turn,
- 56:52you know, look really good long term for Oklahoma. But what he
- 56:55said, he said one thing that jumped out to me, Coop, I
- 56:58don't want to get your thoughts on this. He said that just about every
- 57:01coach he talked to, Jackson Arnold was the quarterback they wanted out of that
- 57:05class. And that class was a good class. Right, you had number
- 57:08one, hat Arch Manning or whatnot. Everybody has their opinions on him.
- 57:12He had Arch, you had Nelson, You had Dante Moore, you had
- 57:16Nico Yama Liava, you had Dayden Rashata in that class, right, Elia
- 57:23Holdenstein Over there at Alabama, you had a list quarterbacks in that class,
- 57:29and a lot of them all said they wanted Jackson Arnold. That jumped out
- 57:34to me because it kind of confirms what we've all been talking about about our
- 57:38confidence and Brinvivnable's confidence about him going forward. Other teams want this is the
- 57:45quarterback. The other teams want it. They felt like he's probably the one
- 57:47with the most likely the highest floor as in. He's gonna be successful regardless.
- 57:52The question is is how successful and how great will he be? He's
- 57:57gonna be good no matter what, at least at the collegiate level. Can
- 58:00he be pro level to where he leads Oklahoma to the promised lane? How
- 58:07excited did you give an ahirt that coup Staples knows what he's talking about?
- 58:12Right? He really does actually like Andy Stables now and I and again,
- 58:19Andy Staples is looking at stuff from a national perspective, right, so you
- 58:22feel still all the guys that we've always seen who put out the Lindy's magazines,
- 58:29none of those guys dig dig dig dig dig dig dig on every aspect.
- 58:37So I don't necessarily think I mean, obviously Texas is going to be
- 58:39heading into the you know, SEC a little bit more assurance on the offensive
- 58:45line, but I don't think they touch our defensive line. So I mean
- 58:50it's a split right there. You can't lose I mean, you're your top
- 58:52two, you know, producing guys who helped you be what you haven't been
- 58:58in god knows how long, and so you can't lose those guys and all
- 59:01of a sudden be like, oh we're gonna roll two more guys in here,
- 59:04and they're just gonna be fine. So but Staples, he sees these
- 59:08things. He sees the program. He's been around, a lot of these
- 59:12guys are starting to come around, Paul Feinbaum. They're talking, they're seeing
- 59:15the setup. Now, you know what My coach, my baseball coach Kansas,
- 59:22was from Missouri and he always said, you know what, from the
- 59:23show me state, So you can't tell me, You're gonna have to show
- 59:27me. And so it is time to show me. It is going to
- 59:30be time for oh, you to show the rest of the people so they
- 59:34can start believing how we believe that being said, I mean, you get
- 59:39a national perspective from a guy like that, and he says the things that
- 59:44he did, you feel pretty good that it's not just crimson colored glasses that
- 59:49are, you know, tainting our vision. Yep. Agree. And another
- 59:55thing that that Andy jumped into was about ou in Texas going into the SEC
- 1:00:00Right, of course, it's like everybody else, everybody's giving the Texas hype
- 1:00:04and his reasoning. I actually when he said it, I was like,
- 1:00:09there's a little contradiction here, but I get what you're trying to say,
- 1:00:13right, he pointed out, you know, are refresh on the trenches in
- 1:00:19comparison to Texas. You know, Texas bringing back all the offensive linemen.
- 1:00:22I get it, they're protecting their quarterback. That's actually a very good thing
- 1:00:24to have moving into no matter where you're at. And the way that they
- 1:00:28were able to push around Alabama when they played them, They're like, Okay,
- 1:00:30that's kind of what's helping them is those people are returning even though Oklahoma
- 1:00:35did push them around, right, he said, even though y'all Oka woman
- 1:00:38did push them around. That's why you see a lot of that hype with
- 1:00:43it there. Returning to quarterback who's been there now on his third year,
- 1:00:45and an offensive line with with a potential first round draft pick in banks in
- 1:00:51which Oklahoma last year had Tyler Goeid in first round, right, and you
- 1:00:54had Walter Rowski drafted later. He kind of talked through that. But the
- 1:00:58thing that jumped out to me too about the comments around Olahoma. He was
- 1:01:01like, this is one thing to remember when it comes to Oklahoma is that
- 1:01:07no matter where Oklahoma goes, they figure out ways to end up at the
- 1:01:10top. You know, uh, you know, the swack the Big Eight
- 1:01:20Big twelve right whatever the current conference, current initu iteration of it is right
- 1:01:27now and whatnot. But no matter what, Oklahoma's always found a way to
- 1:01:30end up at the top. And he's like, so, I'm not worried
- 1:01:32about Oklahoma. There may be some bumps in the road, but I have
- 1:01:36no concern there because Oklahoma's always found a way. You can tell that leadership
- 1:01:42there from Jokistick Leon and everyone around that understand what needs to be done to
- 1:01:46be successful no matter where you're at. And then bringing in a coach like
- 1:01:50Venables, of course, who has won a national championship against SEC schools from
- 1:01:53a school that was not in the SEC, basically said yeah, Okhoma's gonna
- 1:02:00figure it out. May take a year. But at the same time he
- 1:02:05was bagging on Vegas's spread number. He's just like, yeah, that's an
- 1:02:08absurd number. I don't even understand where that came from, just because of
- 1:02:14history has proven it. Oklahoma's always figured it out. And so I thought
- 1:02:16that was very intriguing, and I thought that was probably the most thoughtful way
- 1:02:21of explaining the Texas love and the Oklahoma peace. And he's just like,
- 1:02:23yeah, y'all gotta figure out your offensive line, which I agree, we
- 1:02:28just gotta prove it. I think it's figured out, but we just have
- 1:02:30to prove it. And I agree that the proof is more so in the
- 1:02:35putting. You gotta kind of show that you got it. You can't.
- 1:02:37You can't just rely off of hearsay all the time. Sometimes you go go
- 1:02:40on the field and do it. And we did that. Like with the
- 1:02:43wide receiver room, we were concerned about the wide receiver room and then boom,
- 1:02:46they showed out and you're like, oh, okay, no, So
- 1:02:49the new coach that came in, we don't need to be concerned anymore.
- 1:02:52The new coach knows what he's doing. He did a really good job of
- 1:02:53making things happen. Now he just gotta let old Faithful the beaten Bow do
- 1:02:58what he does best and get us an elite offensive line next season, and
- 1:03:02hopefully it's someone that looks like they're going to get drafted in the first round.
- 1:03:06If we do that, everyone's going to shut up about concerns with Oklahoma.
- 1:03:12And we also were nervous about the wide receiver with the reports coming through
- 1:03:16that a certain slot guy was the one that was showing out and he didn't
- 1:03:22show up, So you weren't even excited about the guys who ended up producing
- 1:03:29with arel Antony looking like a number one guy now fully fully believe that andrel
- 1:03:34Antony is is guys. I will say this, if you got some extra
- 1:03:37coins around, by the Jaden Gibson stock, Like I just continue to say,
- 1:03:44by the Jaden Gibson stock. I mean, when we were down on
- 1:03:45the field after the spring game, that guy, he just had an aura
- 1:03:50about him, like he was like he knows that it's coming. It wasn't
- 1:03:52cocky, it wasn't flashy. I mean he was just confident. And we
- 1:03:58already know who Anderson is, Burks, we know what we have. You
- 1:04:01know, a lot of excitement with him, and so yeah, I mean
- 1:04:05you continue with each one of these receivers, they blew up. This coaching
- 1:04:13staff is great. We're still great. I mean we still have three of
- 1:04:16our starters on offensive line. You feel really really good about it. It's
- 1:04:20how does a gel and how does how do you? How do you fill
- 1:04:24that in? I still maintain our off first line offensive line is going to
- 1:04:28be really really good. We just walk. We walk a thin line with
- 1:04:32injuries and unless they happen short term into the year because you start getting Effett
- 1:04:39back, you know, you get Gary Hatchett, you know, in full
- 1:04:43and full health, you get epl and all the newvies in with a with
- 1:04:47some time underneath their belts, and hopefully they're going to have some time early.
- 1:04:50So I think it's overblown. Jason said it in here. You know,
- 1:04:55the only thing I really just have no damn clue about is the kicker.
- 1:04:58And that's really the only thing. And you know what, I'm not
- 1:05:00gonna waste time on our podcast talking about the kicker at yet. You know,
- 1:05:03I will handle that. They got a job to do, go out
- 1:05:05there and kick the dad gun ball. You got a special teams coach,
- 1:05:09and you've got a good competition, so you just don't know right now.
- 1:05:12So I think that if if you think about the offensive line, you just
- 1:05:16got to trust in a dude who is really good at coaching and great pieces
- 1:05:21that are already there. Yep. And that's where I'm at. That's where
- 1:05:26I why I don't have the same concern as most when it comes to that,
- 1:05:29because he's proven to us enough times that yeah, yeah, if he
- 1:05:38gures itself out right, and I totally get the thought process around the overblown
- 1:05:43piece, but we would be considered overblown too if we return, you know,
- 1:05:46five offensive linemen from last season, right, we would be if Geiden
- 1:05:49came back, right, and you know we had four more offensive linemen starting
- 1:05:58that. If basically this line here and it had already been here a year,
- 1:06:02our height would have beenough. Just up as hot. It makes sense,
- 1:06:05there's logic behind it, and it's all because continuity really helps when it
- 1:06:11comes off to the line. Now, execution is gonna be the question.
- 1:06:14And I hope that they continue to do not to do max protect against us
- 1:06:16and we let came Willard run through all of them because I think he really
- 1:06:21is gonna He's gonna be nasty on the line him and dominate with Dejon and
- 1:06:27you bring the young pup. Look, man, I'm already salivating. All
- 1:06:30right, strap it up with a bowl and it Thank y'all for pulling up
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- 1:06:46words, just hang in. I mean this is the beginning of official businesses.
- 1:06:53I mean, like, what were two weeks in and all this excitement.
- 1:06:57You know, you look back at the twenty five class and you're like,
- 1:07:00oh, you know this is gonna be a good one. We talked
- 1:07:00about the offensive line. You see these pieces come through. Now the twenty
- 1:07:04six class is going to start filling out. You've got a commitment of the
- 1:07:08twenty seven class. I mean, there's not a lot that you can just
- 1:07:11absolutely just be down in the dumps about. So uh yeah, I say,
- 1:07:15don't don't get too all cut up in in hype and everything like that.
- 1:07:17Sit back, relaxed. The off season is the off season. Guys
- 1:07:20got to do it on the field. So so just uh just put the
- 1:07:25smile on. And I mean here in the next couple of weeks, we're
- 1:07:27gonna have some fireworks. Yes we are so alright, and figuratively literally and
- 1:07:32figuredly we will catch all of y'all on the other side. I'll be easy pigs.