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Full Show Podcast: 27 February 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens on
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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Welcome to the program. Thank you
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Speaker 3: for choosing us today. Over the next sixty minutes, international
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Speaker 3: tourist spending has returned to pre COVID levels, but tourism
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Speaker 3: domestically has dipped. This is according to the latest figures
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Speaker 3: out of Stats New Zealand. And we're going to talk
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Speaker 3: to the tourism industry next when Simpeter's has met with
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Speaker 3: high ranking officials in China. So what is in play?
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Speaker 3: Andrew Little will be talking to us in ten minutes
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Speaker 3: time to Matatini has going off and Nicola Willis thinks
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Speaker 3: it could go global. So how successful has this Kappahaka
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Speaker 3: festival been? And the power of citizens arrest is not
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Speaker 3: going down as well as expected with retail, so what
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Speaker 3: are they worried about. We'll talk about this just before six.
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Speaker 3: We'll have correspondence from right around New Zealand and around
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Speaker 3: the world. We're going to America today and news as
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Speaker 3: it breaks. Plus you can say whatever you like about
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Speaker 3: send me an email. Dickens at news talk zeb dot
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Speaker 3: co dot nz. It's eight after.
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Speaker 1: Five the agenda.
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Speaker 3: It's Thursday, the twenty seventh of February. Ukraine's President Voladimiya
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Speaker 3: Zelensky has confirmed the United States has given no security
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Speaker 3: guarantees yet in the proposed mineral deals. Zelensky heads to
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Speaker 3: the White House this week. He's expected to sign the deal,
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Speaker 3: but he says it's more of a framework.
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Speaker 4: I really asked for at least an understanding that we
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Speaker 4: see this as far of future security guarantees. Therefore, even
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Speaker 4: in the framework agreement, I really wanted at least a
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Speaker 4: sentence to appear the guarantees of Ukraine's security, and the
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Speaker 4: government officials briefed me it has appeared.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has rejected calls for
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Speaker 3: European peacekeepers to be deployed on Ukrainian soil under the
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Speaker 3: terms of any peace deal to end the war, and
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Speaker 3: that you know, might just be a deal breaker. BP
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Speaker 3: has announced it's going to cut its renewable energy investments
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Speaker 3: and instead focus on increasing oil and gas production. The
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Speaker 3: move has been announced after pressure from some investors unhappy
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Speaker 3: that its profits and share price have been lower than
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Speaker 3: its rivals. To Australia, where a top radio presenter has
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Speaker 3: left nationwide radio station Triple M after making comments about
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Speaker 3: the country's women's football team they called the Matilda's. Marty
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Speaker 3: Schergeld said on air the players reminded him of Year
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Speaker 3: ten girls. It implied that their matches were boring.
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Speaker 5: These comments reflect offensive and outdated ideas about women's football.
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Speaker 5: They are degrading and demeaning to every woman and girl
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Speaker 5: who wants to be treated as an equal participant in
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Speaker 5: society and in sport.
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Speaker 3: And finally, Donald Trump has shared his vision for the
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Speaker 3: future of the Gaza Strip in an AI video. It
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Speaker 3: includes skyscrapers, golden statues of Trump, and dollar bills raining
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Speaker 3: down upon the children there. And this is the jingle
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Speaker 3: he used, shame Right, Golden Future, Life the Diner to one. Okay,
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Speaker 3: it is ten out to five.
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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property Search Simple,
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Speaker 1: Youth Talk said.
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Speaker 3: Be here's a truism about being a human. Human civilization
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Speaker 3: is built on energy. The taming of fire and then
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Speaker 3: the development of controlled energy release is what pushed on
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Speaker 3: our progress since the Stone Age when they first set
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Speaker 3: up a fire and roasted a wilderbeast. Food and water
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Speaker 3: are important, but without energy, we can't sustain the incredible
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Speaker 3: human population growth of the last two hundred years and
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Speaker 3: the cities we have built. So with everything that's going
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Speaker 3: on around us in New Zealand and our day to
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Speaker 3: day chatter, it's important to remember that we sit in
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Speaker 3: an ongoing and long lasting energy crisis. So we know
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Speaker 3: that eighty five percent of our energy comes from renewables
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Speaker 3: that's fired on by wind and water, and that's unreliable. Yesterday,
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Speaker 3: Meridian Energy announced a one hundred and twenty one million
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Speaker 3: dollar loss caused by last winter's power shortages caused by
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Speaker 3: empty hydro lakes, and in announcing the result, the CEO
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Speaker 3: said the company took a hit for New Zealand to
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Speaker 3: keep us powered up so we can keep making some money.
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Speaker 3: That's why Genesis Energy announced last week they're importing a
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Speaker 3: million tons of coal as backup. Today, farmers are being
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Speaker 3: worn that a late summer drought is imminent. Yes, it's
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Speaker 3: rained this summer, but the wind has blown drying out
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Speaker 3: the country. You can see it in your lawn and
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Speaker 3: Tahlanaki seminars are already being held to prepare farmers for
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Speaker 3: what has been called a one and fifty year event.
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Speaker 3: So it's dry, and it's continuing to be dry, and
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Speaker 3: so the chances of another power crisis this winter are
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Speaker 3: very high. So for any green minded folk out there,
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Speaker 3: I need to tell you that the possibility of reducing
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Speaker 3: our dependence on fossil fuel is a fantasy. Until humankind
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Speaker 3: invents an energy source that is independent of the rain
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Speaker 3: and the wind and the sun, we will be constrained
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Speaker 3: in our ability to grow, no matter what we say
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Speaker 3: about productivity or economic growth. And can I just say
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Speaker 3: that is not pessimism, that is the reality of where
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Speaker 3: we are twelve after five. I've been loathed to criticize
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Speaker 3: the school lunch program, but come on, Lincoln Heights has
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Speaker 3: had but a chicken for eleven days out of seventeen.
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Speaker 3: Just imagine it, not but a chicken again. It was
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Speaker 3: day nine a Pitipit lunches for Massy Primary School in
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Speaker 3: West Aukland yesterday, So in an ideal world, we wouldn't
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Speaker 3: need school lunches. But this is not an ideal world.
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Speaker 3: School lunches are a staple in England. They were developed
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Speaker 3: in post war austerity, when basic nutrition was poor the
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Speaker 3: kids had to be fed. The fact that we believed
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Speaker 3: we need school lunches in the first place was evidence
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Speaker 3: of how far we've slipped in terms of caring for
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Speaker 3: our kids. For whatever reason, we've ended out with people
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Speaker 3: who can have kids but can't afford to feed them.
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Speaker 3: So school lunches became a thing. And then David Seymour
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Speaker 3: thought he could make them better by making them cheaper
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Speaker 3: by centralizing the production. Can I just note the irony
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Speaker 3: of that centralizing of production is a bit of a
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Speaker 3: socialist thing, but it came from David Seymour. But he
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Speaker 3: promised that his school lunch program would be as good
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Speaker 3: and probably better. Well it isn't. And that's it. Five
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Speaker 3: point thirteen. So the tourists are back, good news, but
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Speaker 3: do they come with a headache. We're going to talk
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Speaker 3: about the tourism numbers that are starting to pick up
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Speaker 3: again with a tourism holding CEO grant website. He's with
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Speaker 3: us in just a few moments time here on News
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Speaker 3: Talks AB Andrew.
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Speaker 3: Zib it is sixteen minutes up to five and finally
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Speaker 3: some good news for the tourism sector. The tourists are
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Speaker 3: back and they're spending the big BIS. New data shows
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Speaker 3: that international tourism expenditure was up fifty nine point nine percent.
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Speaker 3: They spent sixteen point nine billion dollars in New Zealand.
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Speaker 3: To give you some sort of comparison, in twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 3: it was seventeen point two billion, so it's pretty much
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Speaker 3: back there. The numbers are promising and Tourism Holding CEO
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Speaker 3: Grant Webster joins me. Now, good morning to your grants.
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Speaker 2: Good morning Andrew.
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Speaker 3: So finally it's happened. What's causing the increase?
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Speaker 2: Ah, this was the way it's going to happen. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's in our DNA on a global basis that we
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Speaker 2: want to get out and about and visit the world.
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Speaker 2: So people look at the opportunity and New Zealand to
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Speaker 2: an attractive destination. So that coming.
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Speaker 3: So why is domestic tourism down?
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's just a somewhat be the economy, but
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Speaker 2: it's the growth and outbound as well. So just like
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Speaker 2: people want to come here, is the number of New
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Speaker 2: Zealanders want to get back out overseas. So that's understandable.
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Speaker 3: So how is the tourism industry reacting because there's a
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Speaker 3: surge of people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean there's something like a fifteen percent
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Speaker 2: increase in the number of tourism businesses in that satellite
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Speaker 2: account information that came out yesterday as well. That's great.
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Speaker 2: So we're actually attracting more employment. People are seeing as
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to start their own business, and so I
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Speaker 2: think the industry is responding really really well. It's exciting.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Now, Queenstown civic officials were in the news yesterday.
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Speaker 3: They're unhappy that the country has moved from high wealth tourists,
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Speaker 3: which was the labor thing, to what seems to be
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Speaker 3: mass tourism. Anyone who wants to come here, come on,
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Speaker 3: everyone must go. They say that approach is unsustainable without
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Speaker 3: a big infrastructure spend. Do they have a point.
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Speaker 2: I think that it's a very small point that's relative
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Speaker 2: to a few locations at a very short time of
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Speaker 2: the year. Now, the reality is New Zealand's expensive. You know,
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Speaker 2: our total visitor numbers haven't got back to pre COVID,
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Speaker 2: but as you said in your opening, we're very close
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Speaker 2: to total spend, so we're in a spen of destination.
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Speaker 2: We're already getting high value tourists. That's who comes. People
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Speaker 2: who sort of masterism go to different destinations that are
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Speaker 2: a lot cheaper. So we're alway getting high value tourists.
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Speaker 2: And we've got plenty of infrastructure throughout the country that
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Speaker 2: can sustain really good growth for a number of years
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Speaker 2: to come. So maybe there's some places at peak times
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Speaker 2: of the year that need some support and that will come.
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Speaker 3: That'll come, okay, So what is the industry doing to
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Speaker 3: support this trend of improvement continuing? And how do you
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Speaker 3: feel about everyone must go?
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Speaker 6: Ah?
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Speaker 2: So look, it's great to have any kind of campaign
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Speaker 2: that's going to support the winter tourism business, and that's
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Speaker 2: what that campaign's targeting. Australia's coming here over the next
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Speaker 2: short period. We've been breafed of a good event strategy
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Speaker 2: for some time, so we haven't had any big events
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Speaker 2: since over winter, since the FIFA World Cup, so I
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Speaker 2: think that's all goods let's go the tagline. Some people
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Speaker 2: love it, some people don't by to buy the pointers.
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Speaker 2: We're out there and we're asking for business, and so
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Speaker 2: I think the industry's in behind touris in New Zealand
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Speaker 2: and wants to see them do well.
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Speaker 3: Grab we episode. I thank you for your time today.
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Speaker 3: Granted is the CEO of Tourism Holdings. G has just
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Speaker 3: sent me a text and said down in hockey Ticket
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Speaker 3: at the moment, working man, the places going off people everywhere.
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Speaker 3: All motels are full and have been all weakened by
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Speaker 3: the way. The weather's been really great on the West
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Speaker 3: coast as well. So this is good news. Are the
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Speaker 3: texts that have arrived. Oh, for goodness sake, we had
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Speaker 3: sandwiches every day in our school lunches for years, made
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Speaker 3: by our mother. Beggars can't be choosers. And that's a
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Speaker 3: comment I guess about the eleven days of butter chicken
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Speaker 3: in a row? And when does this restraining law come
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Speaker 3: into effect? This is the citizens arresting. It will help
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Speaker 3: supermarkets a lot. Thank you Sarah for your text. We're
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Speaker 3: going to talk about this just before six o'clock because
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Speaker 3: retailers are not as happy as you might expect. But
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Speaker 3: next China, Winston is there, he's been talking to high
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Speaker 3: ranking officials. So what's on the table and what are
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Speaker 3: the risks? Andrew Little is joining us next The.
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Speaker 3: Said, be hey, it's five twenty two. So Winston Peter's
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Speaker 3: met with China's Foreign minister overnight as those warships in
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Speaker 3: closer to Australia. They're well into Australia's Exclusive Economic zone
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Speaker 3: at this point. But New Zealanders and Australians are like
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Speaker 3: hopeful that Winston has had some words with Chinese officials.
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Speaker 3: But to give us some sort of insight about what's
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Speaker 3: happening at that level, I'm joined by former Defense Minister
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Speaker 3: Andrew Little from the Labor Party.
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Speaker 7: Hello Andrew, good morning.
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Speaker 3: So what are the rules around being in an exclusive
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Speaker 3: economic zone?
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Speaker 7: Well, as long as they as long as you're in
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Speaker 7: international waters and you obeying the rules under the United
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Speaker 7: Nation's Convention on the Law of the Sea, then that's
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Speaker 7: all fine. They and that's what China is doing. But
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Speaker 7: there's no question why they are down here and they're
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Speaker 7: live firing, and all the rest of it is they
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Speaker 7: are projecting and making it very care to Australia and
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Speaker 7: New Zealand and no doubt the rest of the pacifics
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Speaker 7: that they are capable of doing this, that they have
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Speaker 7: vessels that can come the far and this is about
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Speaker 7: projecting their military strength that they have at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Power projection. This is true. How close can the steps
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Speaker 3: get before they've overstepped.
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Speaker 7: Once around then the twelve mile zone of twelve miles
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Speaker 7: or four Then at that point it's expected that there
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Speaker 7: would be permission and that would be that would be
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Speaker 7: properly notified in a way That hasn't happened so far.
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Speaker 7: But at the moment, every indication is that they are
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Speaker 7: observing the law of the sea. And all we can
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Speaker 7: already do is observe at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So, Wissa Peter's met with Wang Yi, who's China's
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Speaker 3: foreign minister, last night. We've all seen the releases. You've
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Speaker 3: been a defense minister. Can you read between the lines
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Speaker 3: and tell us how successful that meeting was or not.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw the statement they've released and they've reported
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Speaker 7: those recorded the issues that were raised. That's the way
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Speaker 7: these things happen, that the statements tend to be pretty
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Speaker 7: bland and very polite and all the rest of it.
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Speaker 7: But I think we can be assured that the issues
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Speaker 7: were raised, and I expect that mister Peters, as a
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Speaker 7: long serving foreign minister, done it many times, and who
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Speaker 7: knows when he would have been pretty forceful I expect
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Speaker 7: and his representations about that. The way you deal with China,
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Speaker 7: to make your point is, you know, what you say
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Speaker 7: behind closed doors in the room is one thing. The
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Speaker 7: way you talk about what you said afterwards is a
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Speaker 7: different thing. That's just the way you keep face with China.
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Speaker 7: That has more of an impact than sort that the
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Speaker 7: megaphone diplomacy that we've seen in another case, Well, you're.
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Speaker 3: Talking about megaphone diplomacy. Acting Prime Minister David Seymour yesterday
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Speaker 3: had some fairly harsh words for China, and there is
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Speaker 3: there really a risk in using strong language and domestic
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Speaker 3: media to define our position, just trying to really take offense.
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Speaker 7: I mean, China will understand that, you know, politicians of
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Speaker 7: whatever country, but here in your zin need to speak
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Speaker 7: to a domestic audience and we'll say those things. I think, however,
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Speaker 7: they will also expect that when there is a bilateral
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Speaker 7: dialogue such as the one that Features has been in,
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Speaker 7: that issues will be raised and it's that's the forum
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Speaker 7: to have the argument about it. And I think the
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think the other thing about dealing with
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Speaker 7: China is understanding that the relationship with China is multi dimensional.
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Speaker 7: So there is you know, there's the trade relationship, which
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Speaker 7: is really positive, but there's also what they do and
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Speaker 7: how they relate to other countries, particularly in our region,
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Speaker 7: so that isn't protected positive and that's that's we We
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Speaker 7: just have to navigate that style of relationship with China.
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Speaker 7: But having having the dialogue is important. Raising INFUSA is important,
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Speaker 7: but China will understand that politicians have to speak to
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Speaker 7: a domestic audience as well.
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Speaker 3: Hekay, Andrew Little and I thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: your expertise. Andrew is the former Defense Minister and has
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Speaker 3: talked to China before. And it's now five twenty six.
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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge. Thank you for choosing us. It is five
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Speaker 3: twenty eight. So the power of citizens arrest was all
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Speaker 3: the talk yesterday and I think we all agree that
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Speaker 3: poor old dairy owners and small retailers who watch rat
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Speaker 3: bags nicking their stuff need the ability to be able
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Speaker 3: to detain the thieves. But the announcement came without many details.
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Speaker 3: The Justice Minister, Paul Goldsworth says the changes will expand
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Speaker 3: a person's ability to detain someone committing a crime to
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Speaker 3: any time of the day and over any stolen goods.
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Speaker 3: So what we've got at the moment citizens arrest can
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Speaker 3: be made right now, but it can't be made outside
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Speaker 3: the hours of nine pm to six am unless the
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Speaker 3: goods being stolen are worth at least one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: And you can make your citizens arrest, but you need
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Speaker 3: to know your law. You need to know whether the
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Speaker 3: crime committed is going to attract a custody or sentence
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Speaker 3: more than three years, and you need to know the
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Speaker 3: legal definition of reasonable. So when appearing on Ryan Bridges
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Speaker 3: Show last night, the Minister stammered and under and art
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Speaker 3: and then stressed it's only a proposal, and he seemed
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Speaker 3: vague on the rules of engagement, which is what we
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Speaker 3: all wanted and that is critical information. In other interviews yesterday,
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Speaker 3: the minister also said the courts will provide guidance as
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Speaker 3: to the boundaries of the law. So in other words,
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Speaker 3: he's saying, have a crack and if it all goes
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Speaker 3: horribly wrong and the shopkeeper ends out in court, well
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Speaker 3: we'll figure out the rules better. No wonder. Many in
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Speaker 3: retail say it will change nothing. It is a big
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Speaker 3: risk taking on a criminal. You'll probably discover they're much
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Speaker 3: more at home with violence than you are. Already, though,
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Speaker 3: we've seen shopkeepers defend their shop from robbers with softball
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Speaker 3: bats and not get into trouble. So does it really help.
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Speaker 3: We will see when it's written. And at the very least,
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see a good robust law that enables
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Speaker 3: shopkeepers to be able to stop customers leaving shops with
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Speaker 3: stuff in their bag. You may remember the well known
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Speaker 3: criminal Goalri's garment got away with refusing a bag check.
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Speaker 3: I hope that sort of thing stops. But so far
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Speaker 3: the citizens arrest law is I hate to say it,
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Speaker 3: here comes that phrase. It's a bit of an announcement
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Speaker 3: of an announcement and it needs a lot more work.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens, So another artist has canceled their tours in
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Speaker 3: museum will tell you more about that. I'm I want
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Speaker 3: to talk to you about Tamatatini. We're going to America.
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Speaker 3: A bit later on a group of civil servants are
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Speaker 3: rebelling against Elon Musk And before six we'll talk to
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Speaker 3: retail about the wall.
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Speaker 3: out from the concert. People have booked tickets from all
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Speaker 3: tickets as well. They're waiting for it. This is becoming
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Speaker 3: tickets for the final day of Tamatatini Festival have sold out.
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Speaker 3: There will be no gate sales available. This is the
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Speaker 3: big kapahaka thing happening in Taiwanaki. The bowl of Brooklyn's
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Speaker 3: and New Plymouth, where the festival is being held, holds
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Speaker 3: fifteen thousand people. It is full. You can still see
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Speaker 3: it on TV, Mardi TV and TV and Z two
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Speaker 3: and online MARLDI plus and TV and Z plus and
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Speaker 3: around the country. The festival is bringing ewe together in
18:56
Speaker 3: the hometowns. Nati Fatu is hosting fan zones in Auckland,
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Speaker 3: dudes and performances and you can watch the event on
19:02
Speaker 3: a big screen. This thing is going off right absolutely
19:05
Speaker 3: fall on Saturday. I don't know if you've ever been
19:07
Speaker 3: to it, to Matatini. I've been to one. It's astounding.
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Speaker 3: Nikola Wurs went to this one and came out raving
19:13
Speaker 3: about the whole thing and said this thing should go global.
19:16
Speaker 3: So make it one of your resolutions in the future.
19:18
Speaker 3: When to Matatini comes near, you have a crack and
19:20
Speaker 3: well done to the organizers. It is our twenty two
19:22
Speaker 3: to six dickades around the country. We go Callen Procter
19:26
Speaker 3: joins us Fromdunedin. How THEO callum warning Andrew. So the
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Speaker 3: trial continues for our fourteen year old accused of murder.
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Speaker 8: Ye look, this trial began yesterday here in Dunedin's High Court.
19:38
Speaker 8: Sixteen year old and Nardie maclan McLaren tanner excuse me,
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Speaker 8: died of a single stab wound at the Great King
19:45
Speaker 8: Street bus hub here last May. The boy accused Whati's
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Speaker 8: thirteen at the time. He's fourteen. Now He's pleaded not
19:51
Speaker 8: guilty to his murder. He says he was acting in
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Speaker 8: self defense so used today on the first day of
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Speaker 8: the Crown prosecutors says that McLaren Tannah told the boy
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Speaker 8: to pull his socks down and made a derogatory remark
20:02
Speaker 8: while walking past them. He says the boy pulled the finger,
20:04
Speaker 8: yelled back and then swung a kitchen knife at McLaren Taner.
20:08
Speaker 8: A CCTV footage of the stabbing was shown to the
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Speaker 8: jury yesterday. The trials set down for.
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Speaker 3: Three weeks horrific. How's your weather?
20:17
Speaker 8: It's mostly fine in twenty one today thank you.
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Speaker 3: Calum Claire Sherwood from Christiach Hello, Hello, you can get
20:23
Speaker 3: back into the Christchurch Cathedral.
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Speaker 9: Yes again, Andrew Look, Cantabrian's will have the opportunity to
20:28
Speaker 9: spend some time within our cathedral, despite of course, the
20:32
Speaker 9: restoration works officially at a standstill. News talk s head
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Speaker 9: Beacon today reveal the Reinstatement Group has been issued another
20:38
Speaker 9: certificate of public use.
20:40
Speaker 6: For this year.
20:41
Speaker 9: That will mean that they can continue to host some
20:44
Speaker 9: short term visits inside the building, which is now stabilized.
20:48
Speaker 9: These visits will be under a very strict health and
20:50
Speaker 9: safety management plan that includes some public tours that they're
20:54
Speaker 9: planning as part of our Open christ Church Festival which
20:57
Speaker 9: happens here in May. Chairman of the RST Statement Group,
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Speaker 9: Mark Stewart has also said that the keeping restoration funding
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Speaker 9: conversations alive with various different parties despite a reduction to
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Speaker 9: one point eight full time equivalent staff.
21:12
Speaker 3: Now, if you're out and about today, how's the weather,
21:15
Speaker 3: I'm a bit cloudy around here.
21:16
Speaker 9: Easterly is developing a high of twenty.
21:19
Speaker 3: And I thank you, Max told, joins us from Wellington, halimex,
21:22
Speaker 3: good morning. Bus fares are on the rise. Yeah.
21:26
Speaker 10: Bus rides in the city could be about to get
21:28
Speaker 10: more expensive, particularly at off peak times, quite significantly as well.
21:33
Speaker 10: The Regional Council today to decide whether to take off
21:37
Speaker 10: peak adult fairs from two dollars twenty two to three
21:40
Speaker 10: dollars seventeen around the city, boosting child fairs by forty
21:45
Speaker 10: three percent as well in off peak times to a
21:47
Speaker 10: dollar sixty a. Peak fairs also expected to rise by
21:51
Speaker 10: but not by nearly as much. We're talking cents rather
21:55
Speaker 10: than dollars. Why inflation cost pressures the usual from Metlink,
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Speaker 10: Regional Council's Transports Thomas Nash, also blaming reduced government funding.
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Speaker 3: Sah, that's a big word. How's you wear that? Four letters?
22:10
Speaker 10: But mostly fine after a cloudy starts some scattered drizzle
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Speaker 10: further north. Mid twenties.
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Speaker 3: Never read about who, joins us from Walkanhella. Never our readings.
22:20
Speaker 3: So which councilors are going for reelection and who aren't?
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Speaker 11: Yes, let's talk about local elections.
22:24
Speaker 12: So what we do know?
22:25
Speaker 11: Andrew five Auckland councilors they're going to be running in
22:28
Speaker 11: this year's local elections. One is ruled out running others.
22:31
Speaker 11: They're keeping pretty tight lived about it. So news talks,
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Speaker 11: he'd be asked every sitting counselor what are your plans?
22:37
Speaker 11: What are you going to do this year?
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Speaker 2: So what we do know?
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Speaker 11: Morris Williamson, Julie Ferry, Andy Baker, Shane Henderson can turn
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Speaker 11: it now.
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Speaker 3: They're all having a go.
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Speaker 11: Angela Dalton, she's the only counselor who was ruled out
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Speaker 11: run Mike Lee Desley Simpson there yet to make a decision,
22:53
Speaker 11: and as we well know, faux ward counselor that's Karen Leone.
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Speaker 11: She's focusing all her efforts. This is on her mirror run.
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Speaker 11: So the remaining councilors they didn't respond before deadline.
23:03
Speaker 3: Right now, how's the weather?
23:05
Speaker 11: The weather well partly cloudy, isolated, Charles clearing becoming fine,
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Speaker 11: another muggy one twenty five the high and.
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Speaker 3: No thank you, I thank you. It is now eighteen
23:12
Speaker 3: minutes to six. Were off to America in just a
23:14
Speaker 3: few moments time with our correspondent Mitch here's the story
23:17
Speaker 3: out of America. They saw a bruise on Donald Trump's
23:20
Speaker 3: hand and everyone said, ah, he might be unwell. Was
23:23
Speaker 3: it an IV mark? This was all noticed during a
23:26
Speaker 3: recent meeting with Emmanuel Macron, the French President. The White
23:29
Speaker 3: House though, has said it's a result of handshaking, and
23:33
Speaker 3: as spokespeople have taken on his habit of aggrandizing, and
23:36
Speaker 3: they claim that President Trump has shaken more hands than
23:39
Speaker 3: any other president in history, and that's probably true. So
23:43
Speaker 3: Mitch mccanner's next, as we talk America here on News
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Speaker 3: Talks here b it's seventeen to.
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Speaker 1: Six international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
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Speaker 3: So I think it's probably true that President Trump has
23:57
Speaker 3: shaken more hands than any other president in history in
24:00
Speaker 3: that period of time, that initial time. Now the Texas
24:02
Speaker 3: says President Trump has probably signed more documents than any
24:05
Speaker 3: other president, and that might be true as well. Let's
24:07
Speaker 3: go to America. Mitch McCann, good morning to you. Andrew,
24:10
Speaker 3: Good morning, how are you good. We have a group
24:12
Speaker 3: of civil servants who are rebelling against Elon Musk and Doge. Yeah,
24:16
Speaker 3: that's right.
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Speaker 12: Elon Musk this morning is actually joining Donald Trump and
24:20
Speaker 12: the White House Cabinet for the first photo op of
24:22
Speaker 12: the year. That's despite Elon Musk not even being a
24:25
Speaker 12: member of the cabinet. And it comes and been more
24:27
Speaker 12: scrutiny over his role in the government and this Department
24:31
Speaker 12: of Government Efficiency known as DOGE. Now, this is the
24:34
Speaker 12: group spearheading the mass layoffs of tens of thousands of
24:38
Speaker 12: government workers. Now twenty one government workers, mostly IT and
24:42
Speaker 12: computer specialists have now resigned in protest started their jobs
24:47
Speaker 12: were folded into the department. They'll pin this open letter
24:50
Speaker 12: refusing to quote use the technical expertise to compromise core
24:54
Speaker 12: government systems and jepandize American sensitive data. And right down
24:59
Speaker 12: here in the US, a huge amount of scrutiny being
25:02
Speaker 12: leveled at Elon Musk over what role he's actually playing
25:05
Speaker 12: in the government, how much sensitive data he has access to,
25:08
Speaker 12: and whether or not all these layoffs are actually justified.
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Speaker 3: All right, have we got measles in Texas?
25:14
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right. This is the first death being reported
25:17
Speaker 12: now after an outbreak of measles that started late last
25:19
Speaker 12: month in rural Texas. The outbreak in West Texas has
25:23
Speaker 12: grown to one hundred and twenty four cases across nine counties,
25:27
Speaker 12: and there are nine cases in New Mexico as well.
25:29
Speaker 12: And we found this interesting. One of the counties with
25:32
Speaker 12: eighty cases has one of the highest rates of school
25:35
Speaker 12: age children who have opted outs of one of the
25:38
Speaker 12: required vaccines. So a story to watch there in Texas.
25:42
Speaker 12: And just some breaking news I'm seeing now, Andrew. This
25:45
Speaker 12: US Russia meeting between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin is
25:49
Speaker 12: reportedly going to take place on the twenty seventh or
25:53
Speaker 12: in the coming days in Istanbul. So that's somebody keep
25:57
Speaker 12: an eye in as well, these negotiations to see how
25:59
Speaker 12: this peace steal is going to happen in Ukraine.
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Speaker 3: Great stuff mentioned, and I thank you so much at
26:05
Speaker 3: stan Bull consent to Nople. This song just just leaped
26:08
Speaker 3: into my head. Further US news, by the way, President
26:12
Speaker 3: Trump has announced a gold card visa program. Sound familiar.
26:15
Speaker 3: You'll get your gold card visa if you willing to
26:17
Speaker 3: pay about five million dollars. He said, anyone can go
26:20
Speaker 3: for it. As long as they're wealthy, they're going to
26:22
Speaker 3: be welcomed. He was asked about Russian oligarchs, he said,
26:24
Speaker 3: I know some very nice ones. It is twelve to
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Speaker 3: six Andrew Dickens, all Right, the big story yesterday was
26:30
Speaker 3: the announcement of citizens arrests, and we thought retailers would
26:33
Speaker 3: love them, but a lot of retailers came out and
26:35
Speaker 3: they did not seem to be on board with the
26:37
Speaker 3: government's proposed changes to the citizen arrest laws. You can
26:40
Speaker 3: still do it now, but it's pretty pretty difficult. And
26:43
Speaker 3: now the new proposal is to allow citizens to intervene
26:46
Speaker 3: and stop any crimes act offense at any time of
26:49
Speaker 3: the day and allowing them to detain alleged offenders and
26:53
Speaker 3: to use restraints. So retailers that came out yesterday and
26:56
Speaker 3: they we're concerned that this will end up actually increasing
26:59
Speaker 3: crime and putting staff at risk. As I'm joined now
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Speaker 3: by Retail New Zealand chief executive Carolyn Young.
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Speaker 6: Hello, Carolyn, Well, Emma, how are you this morning?
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Speaker 3: I'm very well. What's your problem with it?
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Speaker 6: Look, the challenge with this is that retailers are not
27:14
Speaker 6: trained to deal with law enforcement issues, which is what
27:18
Speaker 6: we're talking about. When you've most well, any training that
27:22
Speaker 6: you never see around retail from specialist training providers are
27:26
Speaker 6: always talking about how you remain calm. You don't. You
27:30
Speaker 6: don't engage in with inwardly with the alleged defenders in
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Speaker 6: your store. You don't physically engage with them. You keep
27:38
Speaker 6: a safe distance. You try and get nails the store
27:40
Speaker 6: as soon as possible. What retailers want to be able
27:44
Speaker 6: to do is to be able to legally be able
27:47
Speaker 6: to ask to get the stop back. All of our
27:50
Speaker 6: members have told us they don't want to be able
27:51
Speaker 6: to do that in a physical way. They want to
27:53
Speaker 6: be able to get people out of their premises and
27:55
Speaker 6: they want to be able to trespass them with the
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Speaker 6: law that's got some teeth in it, so that they
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Speaker 6: be able to return to their store again and create harm.
28:03
Speaker 6: Actually physically engaging with something, it's not something that retailers do.
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Speaker 6: You know, it's an extremely dangerous thing. You don't know.
28:11
Speaker 6: Is somebody on medication? Are they on drugs? Do they
28:14
Speaker 6: have a hidden weapon. A lot of retail workers are
28:19
Speaker 6: quite young. You know a lot of people that work
28:20
Speaker 6: on shop floors. Many of us have had our first
28:24
Speaker 6: jobs in retail. You don't have the life experience or
28:27
Speaker 6: the knowledge around how you want to engage in that
28:29
Speaker 6: sort of space, and we fear that it will create
28:33
Speaker 6: a situation where if an offender thinks that they might
28:36
Speaker 6: be a physically approached and restraint, that they will come
28:41
Speaker 6: and armed with more expansive weapons. We'll see more knives
28:46
Speaker 6: or their guns, all of those sorts of things.
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Speaker 3: But this is really actually I caught it an announcement
28:50
Speaker 3: of an announcement, because this is an announcement of a proposal.
28:53
Speaker 3: It was there needed to be a lot more clarification
28:56
Speaker 3: about what is meant by detaining and what is meant
28:58
Speaker 3: by using restraints, in fact, what is meant by the
29:00
Speaker 3: entire law. So obviously it's going to Select Committee. Obviously
29:03
Speaker 3: it's going to be debated, So you're going to have
29:05
Speaker 3: the opportunity to go there and eyeball Justice Minister Paul
29:08
Speaker 3: Goldsmith and make these changes, aren't you.
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Speaker 6: We'll certainly be making a strong submission about this, and
29:14
Speaker 6: we know that in legislation and case or already there's
29:18
Speaker 6: you know, it's already defined what reasonable force looks like.
29:22
Speaker 6: And when you're talking about restraints, we know that they're
29:24
Speaker 6: talking about mechanical restraints, so you're talking about handcuffs and
29:28
Speaker 6: or something like cable ties and things like that. So
29:33
Speaker 6: you know, we know a lot about what they're already
29:35
Speaker 6: talking about, and you know, retail just isn't set up
29:38
Speaker 6: to be detaining offenders in store.
29:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, and one of the parties that came out and
29:45
Speaker 3: weren't full bore into it was supermarkets, which we everyone
29:49
Speaker 3: was a bit surprised at because we've all seen people
29:50
Speaker 3: waltz out of supermarkets with stuff. But as they said,
29:54
Speaker 3: they've already got their security guards, they've already got all
29:56
Speaker 3: the same concerns that you have about the whole process.
30:01
Speaker 3: So you know, the point is, shouldn't retailers be working
30:06
Speaker 3: together to actually sort themselves out without the help of
30:08
Speaker 3: the government.
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Speaker 6: So we are absolutely working together around what we need
30:14
Speaker 6: to do to prevent retail crime, and our focus is
30:16
Speaker 6: on prevention and keeping people safe. Every business has to
30:20
Speaker 6: comply to the health and safety regulations, and if you're
30:22
Speaker 6: putting staff potentially in harm's way by having to engage
30:25
Speaker 6: with an alleged defender in store, then you're not going
30:28
Speaker 6: to be able to comply with health and safety regulation.
30:30
Speaker 6: So you're going to be in lots of trouble with
30:32
Speaker 6: the Labor Department. So, you know, preventive measures like facial
30:37
Speaker 6: recognition technology where you can. You're identifying prior offenders in
30:42
Speaker 6: your store and ensuring that they don't come in store.
30:44
Speaker 6: Really ways to keep staff and customers safe. We know
30:48
Speaker 6: that in retail and specifically if you're thinking about social markets,
30:52
Speaker 6: between thirty five and fifty percenters offenders are recipibus offenders,
30:56
Speaker 6: so they're coming back time and time again. Facial recognition
31:00
Speaker 6: and stop them coming in the door. So the goose
31:01
Speaker 6: of technology moving forward, it's really important.
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Speaker 3: Carolyn, I thank you so much. Carolyn Young is the
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Speaker 3: Retail New Zealand chief executive and yes she does have
31:08
Speaker 3: a mandate to speak on behalf of retailers. And a
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Speaker 3: textas says, the minister clearly said yesterday the citizen arrest
31:14
Speaker 3: law was for dairy owners. Yes, but there was no
31:16
Speaker 3: detail on how it would actually work. And he said that,
31:18
Speaker 3: he said we're about to talk about this, so we're
31:21
Speaker 3: talking about it. It is now seven minutes to six.
31:24
Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens
31:28
Speaker 1: and one Room to make your property search simple. News talks,
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Speaker 1: it'd be.
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Speaker 3: Five to six. Thank you for a text. Ninety two
31:35
Speaker 3: ninety two small charge applies. Steve says, these new self
31:38
Speaker 3: defense laws are great. This retail spokesperson is being hysterical.
31:41
Speaker 3: Most shop listeners can be detained. I've seen it. I've
31:44
Speaker 3: detained them myself. I'm trained in jiu jitsu and I
31:46
Speaker 3: don't have a problem doing it. Well done, Steve, and
31:48
Speaker 3: you're right you can make a citizen's arrest right now.
31:51
Speaker 3: But it's legally fraught. And of course I'm glad that
31:54
Speaker 3: you know that about the laws because as I understand
31:56
Speaker 3: it as a proposal and the laws are well long
32:00
Speaker 3: way from being fine. Eyes mean, while Liam Lawson's driving
32:03
Speaker 3: quite fast. Make yeah it's spun, but most of them
32:07
Speaker 3: have Antonelli. Interestingly enough, and there's the name you want
32:11
Speaker 3: to watch this year. He's posted the fastest time so far.
32:14
Speaker 3: The big news is they had a power cut so
32:15
Speaker 3: they got an extended period of time. This is day
32:17
Speaker 3: one to BEF one testing. So Aston Martin's got problems.
32:21
Speaker 3: Lewis had some problems, but he seems he's got all
32:24
Speaker 3: of tomorrow. He's going to be in the cow all
32:26
Speaker 3: of tomorrow, so to get some laps. He's there or
32:28
Speaker 3: there about. But that Antonelli feller, you know, they were
32:30
Speaker 3: talking about him actually getting up into the big ranks
32:33
Speaker 3: before Liam last year. So you know, this is all
32:35
Speaker 3: very interesting. Hey, and the Herald reckons that the Warriors
32:39
Speaker 3: are going to come second to last.
32:41
Speaker 13: The well, that's the Morning Herald in Sydney and they've
32:45
Speaker 13: got them with seven wins for the whole season and
32:49
Speaker 13: they've gone through it's worth reading in the sense they've
32:52
Speaker 13: gone through each and every round and said here is
32:54
Speaker 13: where we're going to lose and why we're going to lose.
32:56
Speaker 13: And so basically what they're saying is we know better
32:59
Speaker 13: now than we were last year.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, no, no.
33:02
Speaker 13: The good news is they're.
33:03
Speaker 3: Wrong because it's our year. Because it is our year.
33:08
Speaker 13: And funnily enough, we've got Andrew Webster on the program
33:11
Speaker 13: in Vegas after eight o'clock this morning, who I'm pretty
33:14
Speaker 13: sure is going to confirm indeed, why aren't you there?
33:16
Speaker 10: It is our year?
33:18
Speaker 2: You know what?
33:19
Speaker 13: Well, one, because I've got a job, but team more importantly,
33:22
Speaker 13: I think it's a distraction.
33:23
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I will ask you for Vegas, baby. Yeah, exactly.
33:26
Speaker 13: There's a lot If you're a young Warrior, you know
33:28
Speaker 13: you're concentrating on the game, are you're having a good time?
33:30
Speaker 13: And so that would be a real thing for a coach.
33:32
Speaker 6: Anyway.
33:32
Speaker 3: He's with this after a very good stuff. My name
33:35
Speaker 3: is Andrew Dickons like to thank I might producer ken
33:37
Speaker 3: Zy and they set up staff. He worked late last
33:40
Speaker 3: night and I'll be back again tomorrow and have yourself
33:42
Speaker 3: a great day.
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