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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, this is Silenus from Jimmy Borgere and I'm the
- 0:04Speaker 1: guitar player and lyricist for the band and I been
- 0:08Speaker 1: with the band since its inception nineteen ninety threetasty, thanks
- 0:14Speaker 1: for joining us the save name. Thank you, thanks for
- 0:16Speaker 1: having me my pleasure.
- 0:18Speaker 2: So, Jimmy Port release your Chen studio album Grant Serpent
- 0:22Speaker 2: Rising on May the twenty second, Mate, So how you
- 0:25Speaker 2: feel about it?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Ah, it feels great to finally have the offering ready
- 0:31Speaker 1: for the populace. You know, it's been a long time coming,
- 0:36Speaker 1: quite a few years since the last one, so some
- 0:40Speaker 1: of these songs are already kind of old for us.
- 0:43Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it just feels great to finally have
- 0:46Speaker 1: it out for the audience.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Can you tell us a bit more about the album
- 0:52Speaker 2: from a musical point of view and what you're going
- 0:53Speaker 2: for with this one.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I think we've just approached it like we always approach
- 1:00Speaker 1: a new album. We don't really have a specific recipe
- 1:03Speaker 1: in that sense. We we get together with the stuff
- 1:07Speaker 1: that we have collected individually and uh, basically throw it
- 1:12Speaker 1: into the pot and stir around and see what brew
- 1:16Speaker 1: comes out of it. In the end, you know, it's
- 1:18Speaker 1: it's nothing more dramatical than that. But yeah, some songs
- 1:23Speaker 1: needs a little bit more time than others. It all,
- 1:26Speaker 1: it all depends you have you don't really have, and
- 1:30Speaker 1: often on switch create creative buttons, so to speak. So
- 1:37Speaker 1: you just have to try and you know, go about
- 1:43Speaker 1: it while the iron is hot, so to speak.
- 1:47Speaker 2: So from long term fans, the band mate, like, I
- 1:49Speaker 2: would you say this one differs musical lydio previous album thenion.
- 1:54Speaker 1: I think it's just for us, it's it's a new
- 1:57Speaker 1: album with the collection of great songs the way you
- 2:00Speaker 1: see it. And for us, even now talking to you,
- 2:03Speaker 1: it's still some weeks until the release of the album,
- 2:08Speaker 1: So for us it's already the success, you know, because
- 2:12Speaker 1: we have achieved the goal we set out to do.
- 2:14Speaker 1: And I think, speaking in terms of how it differentiate
- 2:22Speaker 1: from from previous albums, I think it's just you know,
- 2:27Speaker 1: a way of showcasing in all its different eras. Basically,
- 2:31Speaker 1: I think it, you know, includes the earlier part of
- 2:35Speaker 1: the band, the middle part of the band, and the
- 2:37Speaker 1: current part of the band. So looking at like that,
- 2:41Speaker 1: it's it's a good variety, has a lot of dynamics
- 2:45Speaker 1: and a lot of what we're known for over the years, and.
- 2:50Speaker 2: The album opens through the track tri Dentian, which features
- 2:53Speaker 2: a beautiful string intro passage mad Life. It's actually quite
- 2:57Speaker 2: deceptive when you listen to the rest of the album.
- 2:59Speaker 2: So what was that process behind opening with something like that?
- 3:03Speaker 1: Well, I think the word the deception is is quite
- 3:07Speaker 1: famous in these times, isn't it. So No, I think
- 3:12Speaker 1: we are. We always had somewhat of an introduction to
- 3:16Speaker 1: to the albums, you know, and we also have an
- 3:18Speaker 1: outroduction to the to the album this time, it's no difference.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I think it's cool to have something that builds anticipation,
- 3:27Speaker 1: you know, and creates a wonder within the listener. So
- 3:33Speaker 1: starting it slow and nice and easy pc IS is
- 3:37Speaker 1: always a good thing before you break out in full glory.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Yeah nice. All our brand sat at writing goes for
- 3:47Speaker 2: nearly an hour, mate, which is then in the modern
- 3:50Speaker 2: age where the music's digested so quickly and so easily,
- 3:54Speaker 2: like it's a bit of a risk have an album
- 3:55Speaker 2: that long, but I think it's still important that we
- 3:58Speaker 2: do have albums that take you want a journey for
- 4:01Speaker 2: so long instead of just being over and done with it.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Well, I think first and foremost. Dimmi Burger has never
- 4:08Speaker 1: been a band that has compromised, and this time is
- 4:12Speaker 1: no difference. Obviously, we are ware of people's really short
- 4:17Speaker 1: attention tension span these days, but we cannot write art
- 4:22Speaker 1: for anyone else but ourselves first and foremost, and so
- 4:28Speaker 1: we approach it the way we think is best for us.
- 4:31Speaker 1: And then if that means we have to adapt sooner
- 4:36Speaker 1: or later, or people have to adapt to us, it
- 4:38Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. We do our We do it our
- 4:43Speaker 1: thing and our way, and that's how it's supposed to
- 4:47Speaker 1: be done, I think. So. I know that for every
- 4:49Speaker 1: new album there's obviously going to be people that this
- 4:53Speaker 1: is not for me, which is perfectly fine. You know,
- 4:55Speaker 1: we don't lose sleep over that, but we will do
- 5:00Speaker 1: We will get a lot of new listeners and maybe
- 5:05Speaker 1: bring back some of our old fans as well with
- 5:07Speaker 1: this new one.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Yeah, and I noticed there's no song on their court
- 5:11Speaker 2: Grand Serpent Rising, which indicates that the title has got
- 5:14Speaker 2: a bit deeper significance.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. I think it's important to have substance
- 5:21Speaker 1: and depth in the lyrical department. You know, it hasn't
- 5:25Speaker 1: always been like that for us. If you look at
- 5:28Speaker 1: earlier albums, but I think, you know, I grew up
- 5:31Speaker 1: listening to you know, grew up in the eighties, listening
- 5:35Speaker 1: to seventies and eighties stuff, and I was always intrigued
- 5:39Speaker 1: with the combo of imagery, the musical part and the
- 5:44Speaker 1: lyrical parts. So I kind of like got lost in
- 5:47Speaker 1: that and the drifting away, you know, and I think
- 5:52Speaker 1: I'm a fan of that. You know, I'm a fan
- 5:54Speaker 1: of words, and I'm a fan of storytelling. And this
- 5:59Speaker 1: time it's it's probably more private and more personal than ever,
- 6:05Speaker 1: but I tried to code it in a way so
- 6:09Speaker 1: that I leave room for interpretation from the listener and
- 6:13Speaker 1: the viewer, because if I tell people what I mean
- 6:17Speaker 1: with this and this sentence, this and this lyric this
- 6:20Speaker 1: and this word and text, that's kind of like against
- 6:24Speaker 1: the whole purpose. You know, I want people to reinvoke
- 6:29Speaker 1: that wonder about and curiosity basically. So you know, that's
- 6:38Speaker 1: where we're at.
- 6:40Speaker 2: And it's your first album without your guitarist Golda, so
- 6:45Speaker 2: was much difference on the creative and the recording process
- 6:49Speaker 2: about having been used to having someone else around us
- 6:51Speaker 2: at all.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I think, you know, ever since we started writing songs
- 6:56Speaker 1: for this album in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. Things. Uh,
- 7:02Speaker 1: we took things in different periods of time. You know.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Sometimes we felt we were really busy with writing. Some
- 7:08Speaker 1: other times there was you know, we had to focus
- 7:12Speaker 1: on other parts of our lives, you know. So, but
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think it's just for this album in particular, it
- 7:21Speaker 1: just made for me and Shagratt to to take even
- 7:26Speaker 1: more responsibility than before, you know, because it was mostly
- 7:30Speaker 1: us that put this stuff together, obviously with with input
- 7:33Speaker 1: from the other guys. But so in that sense, it's
- 7:37Speaker 1: not so much different from earlier years. It's just I
- 7:40Speaker 1: think it's maybe make it for an even more varied
- 7:45Speaker 1: sounding record than before, and it's less cooks in the kitchen,
- 7:49Speaker 1: which is kind of like a blessing in disguise, you know,
- 7:55Speaker 1: less mess I guess before.
- 7:59Speaker 2: This is your Chedch studio album mate, So do you
- 8:02Speaker 2: think it becomes easier or hard? Did it come up
- 8:05Speaker 2: with fresh standing material? The more more?
- 8:08Speaker 1: You're right, Well, I think it's a true edge swort
- 8:11Speaker 1: in many ways. If I'm going to be positive, I
- 8:15Speaker 1: think it's easier, So I'll go with the positive youth.
- 8:20Speaker 1: I think we're as we've gotten older, we've obviously got
- 8:25Speaker 1: more experienced, and I think it's it's easier to see
- 8:29Speaker 1: where the silver lining is now than it was before.
- 8:33Speaker 1: You know, we we kind of have gotten better at
- 8:36Speaker 1: extracting the strengths out of each other. And yeah, we've
- 8:43Speaker 1: just gotten better at analyzing on the spot. Basically, you know,
- 8:47Speaker 1: take things a bit more spontaneous and maybe perhaps not
- 8:51Speaker 1: over analyzing too much, and I think that gives room
- 8:57Speaker 1: for a better flow. Basically, at the end of the day,
- 9:01Speaker 1: it's for us. It's a new album with collection of
- 9:05Speaker 1: what we think are great songs, and we'll see how
- 9:08Speaker 1: it stands the test of time. But if you don't
- 9:11Speaker 1: have the hunger and motivation and purpose of thinking that
- 9:15Speaker 1: you can do a better album than the previous one,
- 9:18Speaker 1: then there's no point to continue. So that's where we're at.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Yeah. Cool, And I'd got to say, it's a couple
- 9:25Speaker 2: of tracks say that you've sung in Norwegian as well.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Why decided to do that on this album?
- 9:32Speaker 1: I think it was, you know, nothing that was premeditated
- 9:37Speaker 1: in that sense. But one lyric I was working on.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I first tried it out with English and I couldn't
- 9:46Speaker 1: really convey the feeling and the meaning behind it. So
- 9:49Speaker 1: I tried it in Norwegian and suddenly it just clicked,
- 9:51Speaker 1: you know, And I proposed that for the other guys
- 9:55Speaker 1: and they thought it was a good idea. So one
- 9:58Speaker 1: lyric will led to another basically, so it's nothing more
- 10:02Speaker 1: dramatic than that. But I think the Norwegian lyrics just
- 10:08Speaker 1: gives the red thread back to the past of the
- 10:12Speaker 1: band where we had you know, the two first albums
- 10:14Speaker 1: were entirely in Norwegian, so it's nothing new for us,
- 10:18Speaker 1: but we haven't done it for a while, and it
- 10:20Speaker 1: feels nice and fresh to do something in our own
- 10:25Speaker 1: native language again.
- 10:27Speaker 2: Now the album comes out on my twenty second mate,
- 10:29Speaker 2: So what do you got planned up with that? Are
- 10:31Speaker 2: you got a bit of a sure happening.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Or yeah, we got we got some shows lined up.
- 10:36Speaker 1: You know. We have decided to do shorter runs when
- 10:40Speaker 1: it comes to touring, and rather do it more a
- 10:42Speaker 1: bit more frequently, instead of those long runs where you
- 10:46Speaker 1: can easily fall into a somewhat of a routine trap.
- 10:50Speaker 1: You know, we want to keep ourselves on our toes
- 10:53Speaker 1: and totally focused. And I think it's with the age
- 10:58Speaker 1: and health and everything else that comes with being fifty
- 11:03Speaker 1: plus you know, we think it's better for ourselves and
- 11:06Speaker 1: also then of course the fans who wants to see
- 11:11Speaker 1: a fresh sounding looking band on stage.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Very COOLO may Well. Thanks very much for you, Jim,
- 11:16Speaker 2: it's been a pleasure speaking with you. Brand's Serpent Rising
- 11:19Speaker 2: is out May the twenty second, and it's a vicious
- 11:22Speaker 2: slab of brutality image you've done well. Best of Black.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Man, I really appreciate those words, and
- 11:29Speaker 1: good talking to you again and see you when we
- 11:32Speaker 1: come over.