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- 0:00Speaker 1: At a Los Angeles department store, a pattern of small
- 0:03Speaker 1: charges for children's clothing and shoes brings the LAPD forgery
- 0:08Speaker 1: detail into a long-running case. From NBC, this is Dragnet,
- 0:14Speaker 1: episode 216, Big Little Mother, first heard October 6th, 1953.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Jack Webb is Sergeant Joe Friday, with Ben Alexander as
- 0:26Speaker 1: Officer Frank Smith. following leads that begin at the Beckworth
- 0:30Speaker 1: Department Store and its credit office. It is a day
- 0:33Speaker 1: watch assignment in the forgery detail where store personnel and
- 0:37Speaker 1: account paperwork may point the way forward. And now we
- 0:42Speaker 1: return to the original broadcast.
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- 1:25Speaker 4: the past six years, a forger has been working in
- 1:27Speaker 4: your city. The victims describe the suspect as a woman.
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- 2:21Speaker 2: next 30 minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
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- 2:38Speaker 3: It was Friday, September 18th. It was warm in Los Angeles.
- 2:47Speaker 3: We were working the day watch out of forgery detail.
- 2:49Speaker 3: My partner's Frank Smith. The boss is Captain Welsh. My
- 2:51Speaker 3: name's Friday. We were on our way out from the office,
- 2:54Speaker 3: and it was 10.42 a.m. when we got to the
- 2:55Speaker 3: ninth floor of the Beckworth Department Store, the credit manager's office.
- 3:01Speaker 4: Yes?
- 3:01Speaker 3: We'd like to see Mr. Donaldson, please.
- 3:03Speaker 6: May I see who's calling?
- 3:04Speaker 3: Sergeant Friday, Los Angeles Police Department.
- 3:06Speaker 6: Oh, yes, he's expecting you. Just a moment.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Yes?
- 3:09Speaker 6: The gentlemen from the police department are here, Mr.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Donaldson.
- 3:11Speaker 7: Send them in, please.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 3:14Speaker 6: You want to go right in? That's the door.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
- 3:17Speaker 7: Come on in, gentlemen.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Thank you. Mr. Donaldson?
- 3:25Speaker 4: Yes?
- 3:26Speaker 3: I'm Sergeant Friday. This is my partner, Frank Smith.
- 3:28Speaker 7: How do you do?
- 3:28Speaker 4: How do you do, sir?
- 3:30Speaker 7: Sit down.
- 3:30Speaker 3: Thank you very much, sir. Now, do you want to
- 3:33Speaker 3: tell us what this is all about?
- 3:34Speaker 7: Well, it's the little mother again. I've got the receipts
- 3:36Speaker 7: here on the desk. Is Sergeant Ferguson still.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Working on this case?
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 3:42Speaker 7: I talked to him the last time we were stuck.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Usual type of things, Charlie?
- 3:45Speaker 7: Yes, children's shoes, dresses, sweaters, same as always.
- 3:49Speaker 3: I see. Now, I wonder if I can have those slips, Mr. Donaldson. Sure.
- 3:52Speaker 7: Here you are.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 3:53Speaker 7: All made out the same day.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
- 3:56Speaker 3: August 22nd. Yes.
- 3:58Speaker 7: Our experience is that she usually comes in on a Saturday.
- 4:01Speaker 7: Seems that the store is more crowded then, and the
- 4:03Speaker 7: girls don't take any more time to verify the accounts
- 4:06Speaker 7: than they have to.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Can I see those, Joe? Yeah, here you are. All right.
- 4:09Speaker 3: I wonder if we could talk to the salesgirl who
- 4:10Speaker 3: waited on her. Sure.
- 4:11Speaker 7: I'll have her set up.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Fine.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Yes, sir. Ms.
- 4:15Speaker 7: Firestone, would you please have Mrs. Allen set up?
- 4:17Speaker 8: Yes, sir.
- 4:18Speaker 9: I notice here the only items you charge not for
- 4:20Speaker 9: children is a woman's slip.
- 4:22Speaker 7: Yes, we've had a couple of them in the past,
- 4:24Speaker 7: pieces of women's clothing... I talked to Sergeant Ferguson about
- 4:27Speaker 7: it when he was here.
- 4:28Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Did you get the bulletin we sent out this month?
- 4:30Speaker 3: Beg pardon? The bulletin giving the woman's description, samples of
- 4:33Speaker 3: her handwriting. Did you get it? Yes, sir, we did.
- 4:35Speaker 7: You've got to understand, Sergeant, this is one of the
- 4:38Speaker 7: biggest stores in the city. We do a lot of business.
- 4:41Speaker 7: It'll be almost impossible to alert all the salesgirls to
- 4:44Speaker 7: watch for the woman.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we understand that. But was the description sent
- 4:47Speaker 3: to the children's department? It was.
- 4:48Speaker 7: It didn't do any good, though. If a woman charged
- 4:51Speaker 7: large amounts, it might be easier, but... Look at the
- 4:54Speaker 7: sales slips yourself. $ 4 shoes, $ 3 dresses. Nothing to make
- 4:59Speaker 7: a charge like that stand out. We make sure that
- 5:02Speaker 7: there's an account in the name and then let it go.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Don't you use the charge-at-plate system?
- 5:06Speaker 7: Yes, we do. But if a customer wants to charge
- 5:08Speaker 7: an item and hasn't got the plate, we usually just
- 5:11Speaker 7: verify the account and let them sign the sales slip.
- 5:14Speaker 10: Well, how about identification?
- 5:16Speaker 7: Well, normally we do ask for it. But as I said,
- 5:18Speaker 7: these sales are such small amounts and the woman comes
- 5:21Speaker 7: in when the store is crowded... The girl just called
- 5:24Speaker 7: the credit department and let her sign the receipt.
- 5:26Speaker 3: I see.
- 5:27Speaker 7: Oh, excuse me.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 5:29Speaker 7: Yes?
- 5:29Speaker 3: Mrs. Allen's here.
- 5:31Speaker 7: Oh, all right.
- 5:32Speaker 3: Just a moment. Yes, sir.
- 5:34Speaker 7: The woman who waited on her is out in the office.
- 5:36Speaker 7: Do you want to talk to her in here?
- 5:38Speaker 3: Well, we don't want to take up any more of
- 5:39Speaker 3: your time, sir. We can see her out there. All right.
- 5:41Speaker 7: If there's anything else you need, I'll be here.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 5:45Speaker 7: Oh, officer.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 5:47Speaker 7: You know, I feel a little funny about this thing.
- 5:50Speaker 9: Why is that, sir?
- 5:51Speaker 7: Well, the things she's charged.
- 5:53Speaker 9: What's that?
- 5:54Speaker 7: The things she's taken. They're almost all kids' clothes. Doesn't
- 5:58Speaker 7: seem to be interested in anything else. Total amounts of
- 6:01Speaker 7: the articles she's taken don't add up to much. It's
- 6:04Speaker 7: the principle of the thing more than the value. It
- 6:06Speaker 7: just seems that the only thing she's interested in is
- 6:08Speaker 7: the children. It feels a little funny to call the
- 6:12Speaker 7: police about a person like that.
- 6:13Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we understand.
- 6:15Speaker 7: We've got a lot of this going on, but the others, they...
- 6:18Speaker 7: They take things for themselves, luxuries, you know, expensive items.
- 6:21Speaker 7: But she doesn't, just for the kids. She doesn't seem
- 6:23Speaker 7: to be at all interested in herself.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Well, we are.
- 6:28Speaker 7: Yes, well, I suppose so. Well, I'll be here if
- 6:30Speaker 7: you need anything more.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Thank you, Mr.
- 6:32Speaker 9: Donaldson. Thanks very much. We'll be in touch with you.
- 6:34Speaker 7: You'll bring the sales slips back, won't you?
- 6:36Speaker 3: Yes, sir, as soon as we've had the chance to
- 6:37Speaker 3: photograph them.
- 6:38Speaker 7: Well, I hope you can do something about it.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Yes, sir, so do we. Thank you very much.
- 6:43Speaker 7: Anything you need, you let me know.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you.
- 6:47Speaker 6: Just a moment Mrs.
- 6:48Speaker 7: Allen Yes These are the police.
- 6:50Speaker 10: Officers How you doing, ma'am?
- 6:53Speaker 3: I'm Sergeant Friday This is my partner, Frank Smith.
- 6:55Speaker 9: Hello How you doing, Mrs.
- 6:56Speaker 4: Allen?
- 6:56Speaker 9: You want to sit down over here, please?
- 6:59Speaker 6: Yes, all right.
- 7:03Speaker 11: I feel just terrible about this Ma'am All this forgery thing.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Now, you waited on the woman, didn't you?
- 7:09Speaker 11: Yes, at least in the little girl's department What if
- 7:11Speaker 11: you could describe her for us?
- 7:13Speaker 3: Well, she was a.
- 7:14Speaker 11: Little woman I'd say a ten How's that again, ma'am?
- 7:17Speaker 6: A size 10.
- 7:19Speaker 3: Oh.
- 7:20Speaker 6: 5'1, about 105 pounds. Cute as a button.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Did she have the children with her?
- 7:25Speaker 8: No.
- 7:25Speaker 6: No, she didn't.
- 7:27Speaker 11: I thought it was a little funny at the time,
- 7:28Speaker 11: but as I say, we were so busy with the
- 7:30Speaker 11: school rush that afternoon that none of us girls had
- 7:32Speaker 11: a chance to really think about anything.
- 7:34Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. What color hair did she have?
- 7:36Speaker 6: Kind of sandy color. Guess you'd call it a blonde.
- 7:39Speaker 5: Wore it up in a bun.
- 7:40Speaker 6: You know, back here, you know.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am.
- 7:43Speaker 6: The other girls noticed it.
- 7:45Speaker 5: Long.
- 7:46Speaker 6: Looked nice.
- 7:47Speaker 11: Different than all the other short-haired customers. Kind of old-fashioned
- 7:51Speaker 11: and homey.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. How was she dressed?
- 7:53Speaker 6: Not very well. Had a little blue hat, dark coat,
- 7:56Speaker 6: cloth coat. Collar came up like this, you know? Slash pockets. Nice,
- 8:02Speaker 6: but not expensive.
- 8:03Speaker 3: I see, ma'am. Now, would you know her if you
- 8:05Speaker 3: saw her again? Oh, my, yes. Sure would. Well, we'd
- 8:07Speaker 3: like you to come over to our office and look
- 8:09Speaker 3: at some pictures, if you would. All right.
- 8:11Speaker 6: I'll have to talk to the floor manager.
- 8:13Speaker 3: We'll take care of that, Mrs.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Allen.
- 8:14Speaker 5: All right.
- 8:16Speaker 6: Do you think that you might have a picture of her?
- 8:18Speaker 3: We don't know.
- 8:19Speaker 6: I kind of hope not.
- 8:20Speaker 4: Ma'am?
- 8:21Speaker 11: I hope you don't have a picture.
- 8:24Speaker 6: I guess it's a little sinful to even think of it,
- 8:26Speaker 6: but she had a reason for what she did. I'm
- 8:28Speaker 6: sure of it.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Why do you say that, Mrs.
- 8:29Speaker 4: Allen?
- 8:31Speaker 6: Officer, I've been.
- 8:32Speaker 11: Selling for a long time. I met a lot of
- 8:35Speaker 11: people in that time. Nice ones and nasty ones. And
- 8:37Speaker 11: believe me, this is one of the sweetest people I've
- 8:40Speaker 11: ever served.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
- 8:42Speaker 5: I understand that you call her the little mother.
- 8:45Speaker 6: Isn't that right?
- 8:45Speaker 3: Well, we don't, ma'am. That's what the newspapers call her.
- 8:48Speaker 6: Well, it fits her to a tee. Right to a tee.
- 8:50Speaker 6: The way she bustled around those dresses, looking, testing. She
- 8:54Speaker 6: was just like a mother hen trying to find something
- 8:56Speaker 6: for her brood. Little doll, cute as a button. She's
- 8:59Speaker 6: just got to have a reason for what she's doing.
- 9:02Speaker 7: Sergeant Friday?
- 9:03Speaker 4: Yes, Mr.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Donaldson?
- 9:04Speaker 7: I'm glad I caught you. I think we've got it.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Sir?
- 9:07Speaker 7: The little mother is downstairs now.
- 9:09Speaker 4: The Little Mother.
- 9:15Speaker 3: For the last six years, the same woman had been
- 9:17Speaker 3: operating in the downtown department stores. During that period, she'd
- 9:19Speaker 3: forged a total of $ 1, 300 worth of merchandise that we
- 9:22Speaker 3: knew of. Because of her M.O., there was no way
- 9:24Speaker 3: of telling how much more had gone undetected. The operation
- 9:27Speaker 3: was a simple one. She'd enter a store, go to
- 9:29Speaker 3: one of the departments. There, she'd pick up articles of apparel,
- 9:32Speaker 3: mostly for children, and then ask to charge them. She'd
- 9:34Speaker 3: explain that she'd forgotten her charger plate, and after the
- 9:37Speaker 3: account had been verified, she'd sign the charge slip. These
- 9:39Speaker 3: slips would be put in the mail to the people
- 9:41Speaker 3: who maintained the account, and it wouldn't be until they
- 9:43Speaker 3: noticed a discrepancy that we'd be notified. Usually a month
- 9:47Speaker 3: would pass between the time the clothing was taken and
- 9:49Speaker 3: we were told of it. In the six years that
- 9:51Speaker 3: the little mother, as the newspapers had dubbed her, had
- 9:53Speaker 3: been operating, almost every team of detectives in the forgery
- 9:55Speaker 3: detail had worked on the case. Statements from salesgirls who'd
- 9:58Speaker 3: waited on her were taken. Photostats of the sales slips
- 10:01Speaker 3: were made, witnesses were interrogated, and then when the sum
- 10:03Speaker 3: total of actual physical evidence was weighed and sifted, there
- 10:06Speaker 3: was no lead to the identity of the forger. The
- 10:08Speaker 3: police department had gotten out printed bulletins and copies of
- 10:11Speaker 3: composite drawings of the suspect, and these had been distributed
- 10:13Speaker 3: to all department stores in the area. But because of
- 10:15Speaker 3: the suspect's appearance and the way she operated, none of
- 10:18Speaker 3: the victims became suspicious in time to notify us. The
- 10:21Speaker 3: department store's protective lead was working with us, but they
- 10:23Speaker 3: met with the same dead ends that we'd found. Meanwhile,
- 10:26Speaker 3: the evidence continued to pile up. The operation continued to work.
- 10:30Speaker 3: When the manager of Beckworth's department store told us that
- 10:32Speaker 3: the suspect was in the store, Frank and I were
- 10:34Speaker 3: able to come up with the first concrete lead we'd
- 10:35Speaker 3: had since we'd been working on the case. In the
- 10:38Speaker 3: company of the manager and the saleswoman, Mrs. Myra Allen,
- 10:41Speaker 3: Frank and I went down to the boys' department where
- 10:42Speaker 3: the suspect was reported to be. Down this way.
- 10:45Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
- 10:46Speaker 7: The girl said she was over by boys' suits. I
- 10:48Speaker 7: hope they were able to hold her.
- 10:49Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
- 10:50Speaker 7: Just a minute.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 10:52Speaker 7: I know I don't have to tell you gentlemen about
- 10:54Speaker 7: the store's liability in a situation like this.
- 10:56Speaker 3: No, sir.
- 10:56Speaker 7: Now, I'm sure it's her, but it could be very
- 10:58Speaker 7: embarrassing and expensive to the store if we made a mistake.
- 11:01Speaker 3: All right, sir. We understand.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Good.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Over here.
- 11:03Speaker 4: All right.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Mr. Donaldson? Mr.
- 11:07Speaker 7: Donaldson? Yes, Miss Franklin.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Where is she?
- 11:09Speaker 6: It's not my fault. You've got to believe that.
- 11:10Speaker 3: What's the matter, miss?
- 11:11Speaker 7: Don't tell me you stopped the wrong person. You caused
- 11:13Speaker 7: trouble with an innocent party and she could sue the store.
- 11:15Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Mr.
- 11:16Speaker 6: Donaldson.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Where is the woman, miss?
- 11:17Speaker 6: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
- 11:18Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am.
- 11:18Speaker 6: She wouldn't wait.
- 11:24Speaker 3: A quick search of the immediate vicinity in the store
- 11:26Speaker 3: failed to turn up the suspect. The department store security
- 11:29Speaker 3: staff was notified and a watch was put on all
- 11:31Speaker 3: of the doors. The credit department was notified and they
- 11:34Speaker 3: took action. We checked with the elevator operators. We found
- 11:37Speaker 3: one that told us she'd seen a woman who answered
- 11:38Speaker 3: the description get in her car. She explained that the
- 11:40Speaker 3: woman seemed to be in a hurry and had left
- 11:42Speaker 3: the elevator as soon as it had reached the main floor.
- 11:44Speaker 3: A further check of the store netted us nothing. The
- 11:47Speaker 3: suspect had escaped. In the downtown crowds, it would have
- 11:50Speaker 3: been almost impossible to try to find her on the street. However,
- 11:53Speaker 3: an additional broadcast carrying a complete description of the clothing
- 11:55Speaker 3: she was wearing was gotten out to all cars in
- 11:57Speaker 3: the area. The first good chance we'd had for apprehending
- 12:00Speaker 3: her was gone. We had to go back to the
- 12:02Speaker 3: legwork and the waiting. Three months passed. During that time,
- 12:06Speaker 3: Frank and I cleaned up a series of counterfeit payroll
- 12:08Speaker 3: check cashings. Another 30 days went by without activity for
- 12:10Speaker 3: the little mother. There were four new sales slips added
- 12:13Speaker 3: to the file, but when the leads resulting from these
- 12:15Speaker 3: were checked out, we were no closer to her than
- 12:17Speaker 3: we'd been six years before. Thursday, December 17th, 1255 p.m.
- 12:21Speaker 3: I checked into the office.
- 12:24Speaker 9: Joe, that you?
- 12:25Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:26Speaker 3: What do you got? I'll just talk to Skipper. Yeah?
- 12:29Speaker 9: Got a couple of more beefs about the little mother.
- 12:30Speaker 3: When did they come in? This morning. Where are they?
- 12:33Speaker 3: Don Myers got them. He's checking the handwriting. Well, how
- 12:35Speaker 3: about the name she used? Wait a minute.
- 12:37Speaker 9: I got them here in my book. There they are.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Mrs.
- 12:41Speaker 9: Norris Farrell, Mrs.
- 12:42Speaker 3: James Slagle, I guess it is, and Mrs. Ross Neiman.
- 12:45Speaker 9: I called the stores and got the information on these people.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Did you talk to them?
- 12:49Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 12:49Speaker 3: Asked all the routine stuff.
- 12:51Speaker 9: None of them can think of any friends who match
- 12:53Speaker 9: the description.
- 12:53Speaker 3: How about the things she charged? Anything there?
- 12:56Speaker 4: No.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Usual items. Let's see.
- 12:58Speaker 9: A pair of Levi's for kids. One child's cotton dress.
- 13:02Speaker 3: There is one thing different. What's that?
- 13:04Speaker 9: I checked the sizes of the clothes. Last bunch of
- 13:07Speaker 9: sales slips we had, the dresses were for a 10-year-old.
- 13:09Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 13:10Speaker 9: This time she bought them for a 12-year-old.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Kids are getting bigger, Joe. You know, that's a big help.
- 13:15Speaker 3: All we got to do is look for a couple
- 13:16Speaker 3: of kids that are growing. Well, I was just trying
- 13:18Speaker 3: to help, Joe. No, I mean, it just doesn't seem
- 13:20Speaker 3: to be anywhere to go. All the time we've put in,
- 13:23Speaker 3: all the people we've talked to, all we got for
- 13:25Speaker 3: it is a file drawer all to ourself on the thing. Again. Forgery, Friday.
- 13:32Speaker 4: Who?
- 13:33Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. Mm-hmm.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
- 13:36Speaker 3: I remember. Where is she now? I see.
- 13:41Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:41Speaker 3: We can be right over. Yes, ma'am. Bye.
- 13:43Speaker 7: Bye.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Well, we got it.
- 13:45Speaker 5: What do you mean?
- 13:45Speaker 3: That was Mrs.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Allen.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Remember the sales lady over at Beckworth's?
- 13:48Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I think I do. What'd she have to say? Told
- 13:51Speaker 3: me she's having lunch in the restaurant at the corner
- 13:52Speaker 3: of Jackson and Hill.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Our suspect's sitting next to her. 1.02 p.m. We checked
- 14:03Speaker 3: out of the office and drove over to the restaurant.
- 14:04Speaker 3: It was located at the rear of a large drugstore.
- 14:06Speaker 3: When we came into the place, Mrs. Allen met us
- 14:08Speaker 3: at the entrance. She took us back down the counter
- 14:10Speaker 3: and pointed out a small woman sitting on the last stool.
- 14:12Speaker 6: That's her.
- 14:13Speaker 3: You sure, ma'am?
- 14:14Speaker 6: I'm positive. That's her.
- 14:15Speaker 3: All right. Let's go. Yes. You want to wait here, Ms.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Allen?
- 14:19Speaker 3: Certainly.
- 14:24Speaker 5: Something you gentlemen want?
- 14:25Speaker 3: We're police officers, ma'am. We'd like to talk to you.
- 14:27Speaker 5: Police?
- 14:27Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. You want to step over there to talk?
- 14:29Speaker 3: Might be better.
- 14:30Speaker 5: Well, if you want to say anything to me, you
- 14:31Speaker 5: can say it right here. I haven't done anything wrong.
- 14:33Speaker 3: I wonder if we could see your identification. Why? Your identification, ma'am.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Could we see it?
- 14:38Speaker 5: All right.
- 14:38Speaker 3: Just a minute.
- 14:39Speaker 5: I've got it in my purse. Getting terrible. I don't
- 14:45Speaker 5: know what you officers are trying to find out, but
- 14:47Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you right now, if you can't
- 14:48Speaker 5: prove you've got a reason for making me do this,
- 14:50Speaker 5: you're in trouble.
- 14:51Speaker 3: We're not making you do anything, ma'am. We don't want
- 14:52Speaker 3: to cause you any embarrassment.
- 14:53Speaker 5: Funny way of showing it. I want to tell you
- 14:56Speaker 5: that my husband knows people in this town. When he
- 14:57Speaker 5: hears about this, he.
- 14:59Speaker 6: Oh, here you are.
- 14:59Speaker 5: Here's my driver's license.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Would you take it out of your wallet, please?
- 15:04Speaker 4: Here.
- 15:05Speaker 8: Mrs.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Evelyn Nelson?
- 15:07Speaker 5: That's who I am.
- 15:07Speaker 3: Is this your present address?
- 15:09Speaker 5: No, it isn't. We moved a few months ago, but
- 15:11Speaker 5: I haven't had a chance to have it changed. Is
- 15:13Speaker 5: that all you want?
- 15:14Speaker 3: No, Ms. Nelson, it isn't. I wonder if we could
- 15:16Speaker 3: talk to you in our office.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Why?
- 15:17Speaker 5: I always thought you had to arrest people before you
- 15:19Speaker 5: could order them around.
- 15:20Speaker 3: We're asking you to come over to the city hall
- 15:22Speaker 3: with us, if you will, ma'am, and a few things
- 15:23Speaker 3: we'd like to check out.
- 15:24Speaker 5: What things?
- 15:26Speaker 3: I wonder if I can see what you've got in
- 15:27Speaker 3: the bags here.
- 15:28Speaker 5: What are you looking for?
- 15:29Speaker 3: Do you mind if we took a look?
- 15:30Speaker 5: Well, they're just some clothes for my children. Nothing in
- 15:32Speaker 5: there to interest you.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Well, then it wouldn't hurt if we looked, would it?
- 15:36Speaker 10: Go ahead.
- 15:37Speaker 5: You won't find anything.
- 15:38Speaker 3: You want to take a couple of these, Frank? Yeah,
- 15:40Speaker 3: I bet. Well?
- 15:47Speaker 5: What about it? Did you find anything wrong? Maybe a gun?
- 15:49Speaker 3: No, ma'am, but I wonder if you could explain this.
- 15:51Speaker 5: What's that?
- 15:52Speaker 3: This charge slip here. Signed by Mrs. Ross Neiman.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Well, certainly that was probably in the bag when I
- 15:56Speaker 5: bought the things. I don't know anything about it.
- 15:58Speaker 3: All right, Mrs. Nelson. I'm afraid we're going to have
- 15:59Speaker 3: to ask you to come with us.
- 16:00Speaker 5: On what charge?
- 16:01Speaker 3: Suspicion of forgery.
- 16:13Speaker 2: You are listening to Dragnet, the authentic story of your
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- 17:35Speaker 3: We returned the suspect to the city hall for questioning.
- 17:37Speaker 3: While Frank checked her name through the files, I tried
- 17:39Speaker 3: to get her to talk. For 20 minutes, her attitude
- 17:42Speaker 3: was one of surprise, and she answered the questions I
- 17:44Speaker 3: put to her with indignance. Finally, she lapsed into silence
- 17:46Speaker 3: and wouldn't reply at all to further interrogation. Frank came
- 17:50Speaker 3: back from R & I with the information that there
- 17:51Speaker 3: was no arrest record for Mrs.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Nelson.
- 17:53Speaker 3: We put out calls to the salesgirls who had waited
- 17:55Speaker 3: on the little mother in the past and asked them
- 17:56Speaker 3: to come down to the office to see if they
- 17:58Speaker 3: could identify the suspect.
- 17:59Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Room 29.
- 18:01Speaker 9: Yeah, come right in the first street entrance, turn left
- 18:04Speaker 9: into the police department. That's right, ma'am.
- 18:06Speaker 3: There's an arch there. Go right through it.
- 18:09Speaker 9: Straight down the hall to the right. Well, it's the
- 18:11Speaker 9: only way you can go. It's on the left as
- 18:13Speaker 9: you go down the hall.
- 18:15Speaker 3: That's right, 29.
- 18:15Speaker 9: If you ask for Sergeant Friday or Officer Smith... No, ma'am.
- 18:20Speaker 3: Smith. That's all right, ma'am. We'll expect you. Goodbye. I'll
- 18:24Speaker 3: call the next one. Yeah. You know, you'd save yourself
- 18:28Speaker 3: and us a lot of trouble if you'd tell us
- 18:30Speaker 3: the truth, Mrs. Nelson.
- 18:34Speaker 4: Mrs.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Nelson?
- 18:39Speaker 9: Hello, may I speak with Miss Brundage, please?
- 18:41Speaker 3: In children's wear?
- 18:43Speaker 9: Yes, ma'am, I will.
- 18:46Speaker 5: Hang up the phone.
- 18:48Speaker 3: Beg your pardon?
- 18:49Speaker 5: You don't have to go through this anymore.
- 18:52Speaker 3: All right, ma'am. You want to tell us about it?
- 18:58Speaker 4: Mrs.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Nelson?
- 19:01Speaker 5: I only did it for them, the kids. I didn't
- 19:03Speaker 5: want to. How do you think I felt when I
- 19:05Speaker 5: knew I was stealing? How do you think I felt?
- 19:08Speaker 3: You want to go ahead?
- 19:10Speaker 5: My husband, Paul, is a good man. What he's done,
- 19:13Speaker 5: he thinks is right. I can't quarrel with him. But
- 19:16Speaker 5: he doesn't know. He doesn't understand. It isn't that he
- 19:21Speaker 5: doesn't love the kids.
- 19:22Speaker 4: He does.
- 19:22Speaker 5: He really does. It's just that he doesn't understand. You
- 19:25Speaker 5: can see that, can't you? He doesn't understand about them.
- 19:29Speaker 5: Either of you have a handkerchief? I came away this
- 19:32Speaker 5: morning without one.
- 19:33Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Here you are.
- 19:35Speaker 4: Thanks.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Want to go ahead, please?
- 19:41Speaker 5: All his life, he's worked. Put in long hours without
- 19:44Speaker 5: a thought of what he was doing to himself.
- 19:46Speaker 7: Every nickel.
- 19:47Speaker 5: Every nickel he made was put away so he'd be
- 19:49Speaker 5: able to feel secure. so he wouldn't have to worry
- 19:51Speaker 5: about anything. It was all right when we first got married.
- 19:54Speaker 5: I could understand it then. I went along with what
- 19:57Speaker 5: he thought. But the last few years, it's gotten to
- 19:59Speaker 5: be an obsession with him. The almighty dollar, that's all
- 20:02Speaker 5: that seems important to him.
- 20:03Speaker 3: And what kind of work does your husband do, Mrs.
- 20:05Speaker 4: Nelson?
- 20:06Speaker 5: He owns a grocery store.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Small place, but it does good, makes a good living.
- 20:12Speaker 5: Only we aren't living, we're existing. He gives me $ 10
- 20:15Speaker 5: a week to run the house and buy clothes for
- 20:17Speaker 5: the kids. I've tried, Lord knows I've tried, budget meals,
- 20:20Speaker 5: cheap cuts of meat, day-old bread. Any way you spend it,
- 20:24Speaker 5: no matter how you figure, $ 10 just doesn't go very far.
- 20:30Speaker 3: Well, now, Mrs.
- 20:31Speaker 9: Nelson, didn't you talk to your husband about it? Didn't
- 20:33Speaker 9: you ask him for additional money for the expenses?
- 20:35Speaker 4: Yes.
- 20:36Speaker 5: Yes, I'd ask him, and he'd tell me that I
- 20:38Speaker 5: had to make do all the time, make do just
- 20:40Speaker 5: a little longer until he had the money in the bank.
- 20:43Speaker 5: Then we'd be all right. Only the more it went on,
- 20:46Speaker 5: the worse it got. It didn't seem to make any
- 20:48Speaker 5: difference how much money we had, how the total in
- 20:51Speaker 5: the past book went up. He wasn't satisfied. Had to
- 20:54Speaker 5: be a little more, a little more. I guess I'm
- 21:00Speaker 5: feeling sorry for myself, but you see, he could afford
- 21:03Speaker 5: to buy the kid decent clothes, at least that. You
- 21:07Speaker 5: agree with me, don't you?
- 21:08Speaker 3: Well, that's hard to say, ma'am.
- 21:10Speaker 5: Not for me. I'll never forget the day when my
- 21:12Speaker 5: boy came home crying. Been fighting. One of the other
- 21:16Speaker 5: boys at school had said something about the patches on
- 21:18Speaker 5: his clothes. Just a little kid, that's all he was,
- 21:21Speaker 5: ridiculed by his friends. That's when I made up my
- 21:24Speaker 5: mind to do something about it.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Does your husband know anything about your activities?
- 21:28Speaker 8: No, nothing.
- 21:29Speaker 3: How'd you explain the new clothes for the youngster to him?
- 21:31Speaker 5: I didn't have to. Last year, he's been working so
- 21:34Speaker 5: hard at the store, I hardly ever see him. Kids
- 21:37Speaker 5: don't hardly know him. He even spends Sunday at the
- 21:39Speaker 5: store dressing the windows.
- 21:41Speaker 3: You mean he spends all his time there?
- 21:42Speaker 5: Every minute he's not asleep. He let one clerk he
- 21:45Speaker 5: had go so he could save the money. Always save
- 21:48Speaker 5: the money. It doesn't make any difference who gets hurt.
- 21:51Speaker 5: Get that dollar and put it away. That's what counts.
- 21:55Speaker 5: Put the dollar away. You know something, officer?
- 22:02Speaker 3: What's that, Ms. Nelson?
- 22:04Speaker 5: I haven't been able to sit down and talk to
- 22:06Speaker 5: my husband for six weeks. Six weeks. He gets home
- 22:09Speaker 5: at 12.30, 1 o'clock in the morning. He's up and
- 22:14Speaker 5: gone at 6.30. Kids are always asking when Daddy's coming home.
- 22:19Speaker 5: How do you answer him? How do you make him understand?
- 22:22Speaker 7: I can't.
- 22:24Speaker 5: I've tried the only way I know how. And I
- 22:27Speaker 5: did it so wrong.
- 22:28Speaker 3: All right, Miss Nelson. We'll try to work it out.
- 22:35Speaker 3: Can I use your phone?
- 22:36Speaker 5: I've got to tell the children what to do about dinner.
- 22:39Speaker 3: I'll call for you if you like, ma'am. What's the number?
- 22:42Speaker 5: Hollywood 98844.
- 22:43Speaker 10: Where's your husband now, Ms.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Nelson?
- 22:58Speaker 5: At the store, I guess. You going to call him?
- 23:00Speaker 3: I think we should, ma'am. Let him know what's happened.
- 23:02Speaker 6: I guess so.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Somebody's got to take care of the kids.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Hello, I'm calling for Mrs. Nelson. I wonder if I
- 23:06Speaker 3: could speak to her son. This is Sergeant Friday, Los
- 23:08Speaker 3: Angeles Police Department. Who? Yes, no, she's down here now.
- 23:13Speaker 3: Room 29. All right.
- 23:16Speaker 4: Fine.
- 23:19Speaker 5: Was that my boy? I wanted to talk to him.
- 23:21Speaker 3: No, ma'am, that was your husband. He's on his way
- 23:22Speaker 3: down here. Hello? 2.14 p.m., Paul Nelson walked into the office.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Frank and I took him and his wife to the
- 23:34Speaker 3: interrogation room. She'd asked us while we waited for him
- 23:37Speaker 3: if we'd let her talk to him for a few
- 23:38Speaker 3: minutes alone. We stayed out in the hall, and after
- 23:40Speaker 3: a brief wait, Paul Nelson opened the door and asked
- 23:42Speaker 3: us to come into the room. His wife had evidently
- 23:44Speaker 3: told him the full story because he was visibly shaken.
- 23:46Speaker 3: He walked over to his wife and sat down beside her.
- 23:49Speaker 7: Well, I guess I've really done it, haven't I?
- 23:51Speaker 9: What do you mean, sir?
- 23:52Speaker 8: I've really ruined everything. My home, my kids, everything. All
- 23:56Speaker 8: the time it was happening, I never knew it, never
- 23:58Speaker 8: had an idea.
- 23:58Speaker 5: Don't blame yourself too much, Paul.
- 24:00Speaker 8: But I should have known.
- 24:01Speaker 3: I should have seen it myself.
- 24:03Speaker 8: Even when you tried to tell me, I was too
- 24:04Speaker 8: busy to see it.
- 24:05Speaker 3: Too wrapped up with the business.
- 24:06Speaker 5: It wasn't for me, Paul. It was for the children.
- 24:08Speaker 8: It doesn't make any difference who it was for. I'm
- 24:11Speaker 8: the one who caused it. I'm the one. It's my fault.
- 24:14Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Evelyn.
- 24:15Speaker 8: How can I ever make it up to you?
- 24:18Speaker 5: Don't think about that now, Paul. It won't do any good.
- 24:21Speaker 5: What's been done can't be changed.
- 24:23Speaker 3: How about it, officer? Sir?
- 24:25Speaker 8: What happens now?
- 24:26Speaker 3: Well, your wife is going to be given a preliminary hearing.
- 24:28Speaker 3: She'll have the chance to plead guilty. If she does,
- 24:30Speaker 3: the court will decide what to do.
- 24:32Speaker 8: What's the punishment for what she's done?
- 24:35Speaker 3: Well, according to Section 473 of the Penal Code, it's
- 24:37Speaker 3: imprisonment in the state penitentiary for one to 14 years
- 24:39Speaker 3: or for not more than a year in the county jail.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Is there any way out of it? What do you mean?
- 24:43Speaker 8: Any way of getting Evelyn out of it? If I
- 24:45Speaker 8: went to the judge and told him why she did it,
- 24:47Speaker 8: if I told him it was my fault, would that.
- 24:48Speaker 2: Make a difference?
- 24:49Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd be up to the court.
- 24:51Speaker 7: But I could try.
- 24:51Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
- 24:53Speaker 8: If I paid the money back for all the things
- 24:54Speaker 8: she's taken, I can afford it. I could go to
- 24:56Speaker 8: the stores and pay them. Maybe they'd feel different then, huh?
- 24:59Speaker 8: I could make it up to them.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Everything would be all right. Well, it's been going on
- 25:02Speaker 3: for six years, you know.
- 25:03Speaker 8: But if I did pay the stores back, it'd make
- 25:05Speaker 8: it up to them, wouldn't it?
- 25:06Speaker 3: Maybe, but how about your wife?
- 25:08Speaker 4: What?
- 25:08Speaker 3: How are you going to make it up to her? 4.30 p.m.,
- 25:16Speaker 3: the suspect was released on a writ. The next afternoon,
- 25:19Speaker 3: Frank and I met with Mr. and Mrs. Nelson and
- 25:20Speaker 3: their attorney. We talked over the case. It seemed that
- 25:23Speaker 3: the husband's change of heart was permanent. He swore that
- 25:25Speaker 3: he'd never give his wife cause for unhappiness again. Two
- 25:28Speaker 3: weeks later, in Department 89 of the Superior Court, Mrs.
- 25:30Speaker 3: Nelson entered a plea of guilty to 14 counts of forgery.
- 25:34Speaker 3: When the court reviewed the circumstances and was informed that Mr.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Nelson intended to make full restitution, the probation board recommended
- 25:39Speaker 3: that Mrs. Nelson be placed on probation for three years.
- 25:43Speaker 3: After the hearing, Frank and I had a brief talk
- 25:44Speaker 3: with the couple. They thanked us for our consideration and understanding. Apparently,
- 25:48Speaker 3: the cause of trouble between the Nelsons had been erased.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Another two weeks went by. January 22nd. Frank and I
- 25:53Speaker 3: got back from lunch and we checked into the office.
- 25:57Speaker 3: Here they are, dear.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Mr.
- 25:59Speaker 5: Friday, Mr.
- 26:00Speaker 4: Smith.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Ms. Nelson, Mr. Nelson, how are you?
- 26:02Speaker 5: Just fine, Sergeant. How are you two?
- 26:04Speaker 3: Fine, thank you very much, ma'am.
- 26:05Speaker 9: What can we do for you?
- 26:06Speaker 8: That's what we want to do for you.
- 26:08Speaker 3: Sir?
- 26:09Speaker 5: You got the boxes, honey?
- 26:10Speaker 3: Yeah, here they are.
- 26:13Speaker 5: It's not much, but we thought that you'd like them.
- 26:16Speaker 5: Made them ourselves to say thanks.
- 26:18Speaker 8: Look at that, Joe.
- 26:19Speaker 3: That's not necessary, ma'am. You didn't have to do that. No, no,
- 26:22Speaker 3: we wanted to. Tollhouse cookies. He made a box for
- 26:25Speaker 3: each of you. Real good. Lots of chocolate. Well, that's
- 26:27Speaker 3: very nice of you.
- 26:28Speaker 5: We just hope you'll enjoy them.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am. I'm sure we will. Yes, ma'am. How are
- 26:31Speaker 3: things going with you?
- 26:32Speaker 5: Oh, just fine. Paul and I have gotten everything straightened out.
- 26:36Speaker 5: I help him out at the store now. That way
- 26:38Speaker 5: he's got more time to spend with the kids. Things
- 26:40Speaker 5: just couldn't be much better.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Well, we're glad to hear that.
- 26:42Speaker 5: It's a funny thing to say, Mr. Friday, but it's true.
- 26:46Speaker 5: The best thing that ever happened to us.
- 26:47Speaker 3: What's that, Mrs. Nelson?
- 26:48Speaker 5: My getting arrested.
- 26:50Speaker 4: The story you have just heard is true. The names
- 26:59Speaker 4: were changed to protect the innocent.
- 27:02Speaker 2: On January 8th, a meeting was held in the county
- 27:04Speaker 2: probationer's office in and for the county of Los Angeles,
- 27:06Speaker 2: state of California.
- 27:08Speaker 3: In a moment, the results of that meeting. Now, here
- 27:10Speaker 3: is our star, Jack Webb. Thank you, George Fenneman. Friends,
- 27:14Speaker 3: we've been getting letters from people all over the country
- 27:16Speaker 3: telling us that they've switched to Chesterfield. Just as I've
- 27:18Speaker 3: been telling you, thousands of smokers are changing to Chesterfield
- 27:21Speaker 3: because only Chesterfield gives proof of low nicotine, highest quality.
- 27:25Speaker 3: That's why I recommend you try them today. Regular or
- 27:28Speaker 3: king size, you'll find Chesterfield best for you.
- 27:39Speaker 2: At the end of three years, Mrs. Evelyn Margaret Nelson
- 27:42Speaker 2: had fulfilled the requirements of her probation, and the case
- 27:45Speaker 2: was officially marked closed. You have just heard Dragnet, a
- 27:58Speaker 2: series of authentic cases from official files. Technical advice comes
- 28:02Speaker 2: from the office of Chief of Police W.H. Parker, Los
- 28:04Speaker 2: Angeles Police Department. Technical advisors, Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Wynn,
- 28:09Speaker 2: Sergeant Vance Brasher. Heard tonight were Ben Alexander, Vic Rodman,
- 28:13Speaker 2: Joyce McCluskey. Script by John Robinson. Music by Walter Schumann.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Hal Gibney speaking.
- 28:24Speaker 4: Watch an entirely new Dragnet case history each week on
- 28:26Speaker 4: your local NBC television station. Please check your newspaper for
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- 29:27Speaker 1: That concludes Dragnet, episode 216, Big Little Mother, from October 6th, 1953.
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