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INTERVIEW: Dr. Leandris Liburd & Tara Robinson Talk Signs Of Heart Attacks, Live To The Beat Campaign + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Yep,
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  Speaker 1: Charlamagne to God just hilarious. DJ Envy had to step
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  Speaker 1: out for a second, but we got some special guests, doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Leandrews La Bird and Tara Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: Leandre is the director of CDC's Office of Health Equity
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  Speaker 1: and Tara is the founder and CEO of the Black
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  Speaker 1: Heart Association, And since February is Heart Health Month, we
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  Speaker 1: had to have them up here today.
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  Speaker 2: How are you good morning, how are you feeling here?
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  Speaker 3: Glad to be able to talk about black women's heart
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  Speaker 3: health to day with you. Absolutely share a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of data. Data's not new, and we really are here
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  Speaker 3: to talk more about what black women can do and
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  Speaker 3: how our whole community can support Black women in having
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  Speaker 3: healthier hearts and healthier lives.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what is the CDC Foundations Lived to the Beat
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  Speaker 1: campaign For those that don't know, Yeah, so, the Live to.
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  Speaker 3: The Beat campaign is a web based campaign that really
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  Speaker 3: targets African Americans with things that we can do in
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  Speaker 3: order to protect our health and our heart health. It
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  Speaker 3: has lots of resources, lots of videos, It's very culturally based,
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  Speaker 3: very much the things that we can relate to in
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  Speaker 3: our own communities, and so it's been around for three years.
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  Speaker 3: We just invite all of your listeners and your viewers
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  Speaker 3: to go to live too theb dot org forward slash
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  Speaker 3: Heart to Heart. We're gonna talk today a lot about
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  Speaker 3: the Heart to Heart Challenge. Yeah, So the Heart to
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  Speaker 3: Heart Challenge focuses on particularly Black women. Even though heart
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  Speaker 3: disease is the leading cause of death for all black people,
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  Speaker 3: and heart disease is the leading cause of death for
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  Speaker 3: all women. It kills more more women than all forms
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  Speaker 3: of cancer combined. And so what we want to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do is to encourage black women to get
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  Speaker 3: involved with the campaign and the challenge, follow some simple
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  Speaker 3: steps and really start to just be more empowered to
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  Speaker 3: take care of themselves. Yeah, and to prioritize self care.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big theme. So we say that self care
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  Speaker 3: is healthcare. We want to really focus on that today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Did you so? Which one?
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  Speaker 1: I want to know?
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  Speaker 4: One of 'alls survived three heart attacks?
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  Speaker 2: Power was you? Girl?
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  Speaker 5: That has to be well, it's amazing that you're still
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  Speaker 5: here in front of me, But like, did you know
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  Speaker 5: something was wrong before?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't?
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  Speaker 6: My symptoms started in twenty thirteen, my left arm winnum
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  Speaker 6: and and you would think, based on those two symptoms
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  Speaker 6: that I would say, oh, it's my heart, but no,
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  Speaker 6: I'm always in touch with the healthcare system, you know,
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  Speaker 6: going to the doctor when I'm supposed to. And so
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  Speaker 6: me and my husband said, well, maybe I just sleep
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  Speaker 6: on this side too much, you know, to start self diagnosing,
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  Speaker 6: and so I did that, and then so I said, well,
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  Speaker 6: I'll wait to January to go follow up with my
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  Speaker 6: primary care and thinking I had time, not knowing then
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  Speaker 6: that someone was dying every eighty seconds from a heart attack.
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  Speaker 6: And so I went to my doctor and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 6: you know, these things are happening to me. My left
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  Speaker 6: arms going on, my feet are darker, you know, I'm tired,
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  Speaker 6: my neck and she.
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  Speaker 4: Said, well, maybe you're just stressed.
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  Speaker 3: Your doctor.
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  Speaker 6: My doctor said that yes, and so I said, well,
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  Speaker 6: maybe I am. Because I'm a mother, i'm a wife,
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  Speaker 6: I wear all these many hats as many women do.
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  Speaker 6: And so I left there thinking I was just stressed.
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  Speaker 6: She made no connection to my heart being a possible issue.
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  Speaker 6: So God kept me from January to April. April tenth,
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  Speaker 6: I woke up at two o'clock in the morning, I
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  Speaker 6: still had all those symptoms times ten and then went
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  Speaker 6: to the er. By the time I rid that I
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  Speaker 6: felt much better, was dismissed and told them to follow
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  Speaker 6: my primary care. And then the next day in my classroom,
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  Speaker 6: had another one. Then I'm going back and forth with
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  Speaker 6: the cardiovascular a docter that I should stay because they
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  Speaker 6: wasn't finding anything on their test. But then I was
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  Speaker 6: released at eleven at four o'clock the next day going
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  Speaker 6: back having a massive heart attack. So were they not
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  Speaker 6: doing the right test? The word I believe that they
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  Speaker 6: were doing the test that they know to do. That's
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  Speaker 6: what I have to believe to be okay. But I
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  Speaker 6: think as data shows that most women don't show like men,
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  Speaker 6: present like men that with heart attacks. But for me,
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  Speaker 6: I had the textbook symptoms. And so we know as
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  Speaker 6: black women, we face other issues with healthcare as far
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  Speaker 6: as bias and racism. So I faced those two things
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  Speaker 6: is going through my ordeals. So we have to know
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  Speaker 6: where we stand and we have to know what our
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  Speaker 6: risk factors are. And that's why this campaign is so important.
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  Speaker 1: I've done a million different I've done every single heart
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  Speaker 1: test that you can possibly do right, So even when
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  Speaker 1: they did I don't know the technical term for, but
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  Speaker 1: when they put the ink inside of you and they
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  Speaker 1: can look inside your arteries.
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  Speaker 2: Now I did discress tests, but this is.
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  Speaker 1: When they put the like the dyeing and it makes
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  Speaker 1: you warm, and then they can look inside your heart
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  Speaker 1: vibs and see if there's any blockage and like you
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  Speaker 1: whittle make it.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't do that for you.
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  Speaker 6: I went through the calf lab during my massive heart attack.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't do that before because I guess maybe they
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  Speaker 6: were coming back to back and I feel like they
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  Speaker 6: didn't do enough. I'm sure there's other things they could
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  Speaker 6: have done, but I didn't have that done until I
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  Speaker 6: went through. Well, I didn't do that part. I went
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  Speaker 6: through the calf lab and then that's when I went
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  Speaker 6: into sudden depth. I ended up dying that day, losing
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  Speaker 6: my life on to Heaven coming back here, and so
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  Speaker 6: none of that happened because at that point it was
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  Speaker 6: too late. This I'm in crisis at this moment, and
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  Speaker 6: so they did the basic test, your EKG, your cat scan,
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  Speaker 6: your heart enzyme test. That's what was done when I
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  Speaker 6: went through er. Nothing more that you would see at
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  Speaker 6: a cardiovascular doctors forgive me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I just realized I thought you had three separate heart attacks.
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  Speaker 2: It was all at one time.
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  Speaker 4: No, I had one April, tenth April, eleventh, April the
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  Speaker 4: next day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you said you died with the heaven.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you saw heaven. I did.
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  Speaker 2: Please elaborate if you don't, please.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to take the interview from little to
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  Speaker 6: the be. But so what happened was I thank god
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  Speaker 6: it was a sister in there that may help me
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  Speaker 6: be very comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: So it's important. No, in the emergency in the I'm
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  Speaker 4: glad you would.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 6: So the nurse I remember her because you're up during
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  Speaker 6: the entire procedure, and so she was like, he's gonna
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  Speaker 6: tamper with your heart. You're gonna feel a little discomfort,
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  Speaker 6: but it's gonna be okay. She was from New Orleans,
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  Speaker 6: so she had that thick accent. But it made me
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  Speaker 6: feel very comfortable. And when she said that, I was
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  Speaker 6: just gone. And so how I knew where I was.
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  Speaker 6: I could see myself and it was a perfect day
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  Speaker 6: if you could think of the perfect day with the
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  Speaker 6: perfect green gearass, perfect temperature, perfect, you know, and so
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  Speaker 6: vibrant everything, and I could see myself like walking, and
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  Speaker 6: I had this peace. And that's how I knew where
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  Speaker 6: I was because my mind was white clear. I wasn't
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  Speaker 6: worried about my children here and my husband. Nothing here
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  Speaker 6: was a factor for me. And so I could hear
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  Speaker 6: my name being called. It was called three times, and
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  Speaker 6: it was the nurse. And then I knew where I
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  Speaker 6: was because I was on my way. I could feel
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  Speaker 6: that like a knowing. And then I was back here
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  Speaker 6: after she called my name, and I didn't realize. She
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  Speaker 6: was like, oh, you fell asleep on us for a second.
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  Speaker 6: And then when the doctor came in and said you
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  Speaker 6: had ninety nine percent blockage known as the wheelmaker. He said,
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  Speaker 6: but when you died on us, I stopped and prayed
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  Speaker 6: for you. And so I was lucky enough to have
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  Speaker 6: a doctor at that moment.
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  Speaker 1: That Wow, doctor Delandris, what's the sign that something maybe wrong.
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  Speaker 2: With our hearts?
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  Speaker 3: Well? Terror, you know, she certainly shared some of the
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  Speaker 3: classic symptoms, but the other things we need to always
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  Speaker 3: be aware of is our numbers. What is our blood
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  Speaker 3: pressure level, what is our cholesterol level, what are our
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  Speaker 3: blood sugars? I would even say, you know, what's our weight.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we need to check in with our physician
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  Speaker 3: regularly around these things. And I wanted to just mention
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  Speaker 3: just a couple more reasons why black women tend to
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  Speaker 3: have this higher burden of heart disease. Some of them
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  Speaker 3: are systemic or structural things like you know, not having
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  Speaker 3: access to health insurance, not having paid sickly, having lots
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  Speaker 3: of financial stress because black women tend to be I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say overrepresented in like poverty. Yeah, and also
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  Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily having access to quality healthcare because
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  Speaker 3: of the biases that we sometimes encounter or in the
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  Speaker 3: healthcare system. But the other thing that we really want
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  Speaker 3: to sort of elevate today is the stereotype of the
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  Speaker 3: strong black woman, and we want to dismantle that and
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  Speaker 3: start to disrupt that and really rethink what it means
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  Speaker 3: to be strong. So we have this long history of
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  Speaker 3: putting others before of us, ahead of us, of taking
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  Speaker 3: care of others. We can go our way back to
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  Speaker 3: slavery and to the present, and so we want to
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  Speaker 3: give black women permission today to put themselves first fortune
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  Speaker 3: to really say I'm deserving of taking care of me.
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  Speaker 3: So we know from research that black women report higher
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  Speaker 3: levels of psychological stress, and we know from data that
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  Speaker 3: black women have higher rates of cardiovascular disease. Overall, a
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  Speaker 3: Black woman is sixty percent more likely to have high
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  Speaker 3: blood pressure, higher rates of coronary disease, but also higher
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  Speaker 3: rates of stroke deaths than when we compare to non
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  Speaker 3: Hispanic white women. So these things taken together are our concerns.
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  Speaker 3: So we want to really encourage and press Black women,
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  Speaker 3: their families and communities to really pay attention and take charge.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So, the Heart to Heart challenge is that we're asking
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  Speaker 3: women to do three things. The first one is to
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  Speaker 3: identify a small step that they can take That could
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  Speaker 3: be taking a daily self care walk. It could be
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  Speaker 3: tracking what you're eating and your physical activity, your movement.
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  Speaker 3: It could be taking deep breaths, right, we need to
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  Speaker 3: do better and breathing and like exhaling some of this stress.
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  Speaker 3: And also keeping a gratitude journal, which is really surprising
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  Speaker 3: has an actual health benefit. So and then knowing your
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  Speaker 3: numbers as I mentioned before, and then telling someone. So
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  Speaker 3: the second part of the campaign is to go public
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  Speaker 3: with the commitment that you've made to prioritize your own
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  Speaker 3: self care. You know, tell friends, tell family members, put
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  Speaker 3: it on your social media page. And then the third
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  Speaker 3: thing is we want the women who will participate in
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  Speaker 3: the campaign to celebrate that commitment by coming to Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: if you can. If you're in Atlanta, please come to
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  Speaker 3: the Heart to Heart self care party. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: be on February the twenty fourth. If you can't come,
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  Speaker 3: you can participate virtually. But there will be like yoga demonstrations,
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  Speaker 3: cooking demonstrations, There'll be a comedian there because you know
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  Speaker 3: that laughter it's good for the heart.
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  Speaker 5: It's good for our minds, which comedy.
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  Speaker 1: Just like not all the community is good for your heart.
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  Speaker 4: Chant she's also a survivor.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, oh that's nice, but that's a good link.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the only other thing I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to forget to mention in terms of a small step
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  Speaker 3: is when you need to speak to a professional because
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  Speaker 3: like your world just sort of is like unraveling. You
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like you can keep it all together. We
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  Speaker 3: want to encourage women to seek that help. There is
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  Speaker 3: no stigma that should be attached to that. It's okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we want we want to really encourage that,
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  Speaker 3: particularly in the Black community. So those are that's like
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  Speaker 3: the essence of the campaign. That's why we think this
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  Speaker 3: is so important, you know, this year, Like I was saying,
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  Speaker 3: we've known for decades that certainly that high blood pressures
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  Speaker 3: is a big problem in the African American community. But
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  Speaker 3: we also know now that there are things that we
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  Speaker 3: can do. Yeah, we don't have to just sit with it.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard that taking fish oil capsules lower as the
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  Speaker 5: curlesterol is that you.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I'm not really up to nate on
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  Speaker 3: like those kinds of supplements. And I would really encourage
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  Speaker 3: you to ask your position.
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  Speaker 6: I would say it is good for your heart. My
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  Speaker 6: my position prescribed them to me. So but of course
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  Speaker 6: you know you want to follow with your doctor.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, hear that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, fish oil and a baby asterrod.
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  Speaker 1: And then I got you got stating that night because
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm born in nineteen hundred and.
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  Speaker 4: Seven years I do want to answer your question.
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  Speaker 6: You asked, what are the signs and what are some
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  Speaker 6: of the signs and symptoms. So I would say for women,
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  Speaker 6: it's totally different from men. You know, I was lucky
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  Speaker 6: enough to have the textbook symptoms, which only twenty percent
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  Speaker 6: of women show up at the er with the textbook symptoms,
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  Speaker 6: So imagine what happens to the rest of us who
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  Speaker 6: don't have those, and see what I got with them.
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  Speaker 6: With men, you usually have the textbook symptoms, but with
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  Speaker 6: women it can be a belly ache. You hear women
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  Speaker 6: complain of both either arm being numb, you can hear fatigue,
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  Speaker 6: you can hear no symptoms at all. And the danger
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  Speaker 6: with heart disease is that it doesn't have a look,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and no shot to.
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  Speaker 4: My counselor survivors, sisters.
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  Speaker 6: But heart disease is dangerous because it looks okay, it
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  Speaker 6: looks like me and you dressed up and makeup. It
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  Speaker 6: looks like us in clothes, and that we have to,
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  Speaker 6: you know, change that narrative so in order to save
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  Speaker 6: our lives. And that's why these campaigns are lived to
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  Speaker 6: the beats important because when we talk about small steps,
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  Speaker 6: small steps is looking at your plate and saying what
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  Speaker 6: can I do to better manage my health?
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  Speaker 4: Because yeah, I want to.
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  Speaker 1: Ask you another question there about because you have the
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  Speaker 1: black heart association. I mean, you know, of course black
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  Speaker 1: people and white people we got the same organs. But
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  Speaker 1: is there more stressors that happen.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, this is a stupid question.
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  Speaker 1: What are the stressors that black people have to deal
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  Speaker 1: with more that probably make us more prone to heart disease?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, we have a lot going on.
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  Speaker 6: I think about this most recent Let's just think about
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  Speaker 6: George Floyd and us as black women, and we all
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  Speaker 6: heard him call for his mother. You know, those kind
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  Speaker 6: of things stay with us as people. So we have
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  Speaker 6: racism that we have to go through, we have biases
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  Speaker 6: that we have to go through. We don't have enough
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  Speaker 6: black doctors, we don't have enough resources in our community.
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  Speaker 6: We're at Black Heart, We're in the community every single day.
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  Speaker 6: My husband's at two events today and we have won
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  Speaker 6: twenty eight events this month. So we're seeing that. You know,
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  Speaker 6: we go to areas that don't have access to food. Why,
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  Speaker 6: you know, why are we still here as a nation
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  Speaker 6: when we have we can send billions of dollars everywhere else,
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  Speaker 6: but why come we can't take care of our own
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  Speaker 6: communities right here in America. So it's a lot of
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  Speaker 6: things that you know, access to proper education, a lot
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  Speaker 6: of things are missing, and we have to come together
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  Speaker 6: to figure that out. No, yes, we do have the
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  Speaker 6: same heartbeat? But do we have the same heartbeat when
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  Speaker 6: it comes to America?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of life style changes should we be making?
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  Speaker 3: So things like changing our diet certainly to have less salt.
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  Speaker 3: We need to be more physically active. Stop smoking if
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  Speaker 3: that's something that you're doing.
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  Speaker 5: Now, stop smoking? What it's some things? I know it's
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  Speaker 5: some things not for me.
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  Speaker 3: No, we're talking about stop smoking cigarettes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: What about marijuana? Se marijuana good lower stress levels?
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  Speaker 3: H Well, you know it's the cd see representative here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you that speak to your physician about that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I think it has its pros and cons.
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  Speaker 6: I think in the community we definitely tell you know,
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  Speaker 6: we can't tell people what they should or we can
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  Speaker 6: say we suggest based on what you're you know, what
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  Speaker 6: you're going through. But I think it definitely has its
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  Speaker 6: pros and cons. Once we get addicted to something, then
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  Speaker 6: it becomes a con. So we just have to be
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  Speaker 6: mindful of that balance. I think it's checks and balances
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  Speaker 6: and everything we do, whether it's from eating, stress, relate
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  Speaker 6: bad relationships, whatever it is we're doing, it's always checks
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  Speaker 6: and balances and having to consider our health in every
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  Speaker 6: decision we make throughout the day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we really need to, I think, look at
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  Speaker 3: the root causes. So often we're self medicating, we're covering up,
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  Speaker 3: we're just not dealing with right, the real thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, we hope that through this campaign
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  Speaker 3: in particular, that women and black women will start to
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  Speaker 3: have some real conversations and then our whole community would
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  Speaker 3: start to rally because we're gonna have to save ourselves
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  Speaker 3: in terms of really being able to live a long
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  Speaker 3: and healthy life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I know I was this kind of caterus to
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  Speaker 5: me as well. I don't know if there's a direct
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  Speaker 5: link to it, but I was born with a heart murmur,
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  Speaker 5: a leaky valve, and I got heart surgery at birth,
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  Speaker 5: but I was too small for them to go through
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  Speaker 5: my heart, so they went through my bag. And it
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: hasn't bothered me over the years. It used to bother
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  Speaker 5: me when I was a child, when I was really
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  Speaker 5: really young, but since like my vision will go black
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  Speaker 5: sometimes like it would come right back, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. But I couldn't like really do too much
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  Speaker 5: in gym when I was in like elementary and school,
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  Speaker 5: elementary school and things like that, But it hasn't bothered
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  Speaker 5: me since then. But every now and then it'll be
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  Speaker 5: like like alone. You know, I always describe it like this.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever heard this, but like
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  Speaker 5: chords get hangled up in your in your it just
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  Speaker 5: feels like that sometimes when I'm laying down and I
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: have to see, you know, change positions and to your
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: point of like sometimes like what you did when you
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: had your textbook symptoms, you just was like, maybe I'm tired. Maybe,
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  Speaker 5: like I will say, I have been afraid to go
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  Speaker 5: see heart disease doesn't run in my family, but I'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: the only one that was born with a heart murmur
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  Speaker 5: or you know, a leaky valve and I had the surgery,
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  Speaker 5: and like I said, it hasn't really like affected me
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  Speaker 5: greatly since I had the surgery, but it would it
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  Speaker 5: bother me as a child a little bit, but I
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  Speaker 5: haven't had anything like alarming stuff of those little pains
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  Speaker 5: every now and then.
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  Speaker 6: What I would say to you, but if it's enough
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  Speaker 6: to get your attention, then you definitely should get it
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  Speaker 6: checked out. And I think it's interesting that you bring
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  Speaker 6: up the point because we hear this in the community
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  Speaker 6: all the time that heart disease doesn't run in our family.
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  Speaker 6: But if we have high blood pressure, if we have
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: cholesterol issues, then we have heart disease. And so we
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  Speaker 6: have to start connecting the dots to make it makes sense.
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  Speaker 6: If we're I had my heart attacks of stress. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: don't have high blood pressure, cholesterol. I still to this
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: day don't have any of those things. But I was internalizing,
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: going back to that strong black woman trope that we're
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: talking about. So I think a lot of us, as
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  Speaker 6: black people, whether you're a black man or a woman,
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  Speaker 6: you internalize a lot because of pride or for whatever
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: reason you don't want to get it out. But I'm
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: telling you now, if you've had high blood pressure, diabetes,
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: or any of those things for several years, you should
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: have already checked in with a heart specialist.
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  Speaker 4: So you usually just stress.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't have no plaque or nothing.
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  Speaker 3: What right?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 6: But I did have flockage, but it was caused by
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: my stress or my stress levels because I dealt with
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: childhood trauma, you know, and a lot of us do.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: I was molested as a child, I was abused, so
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: you got all of those situations.
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  Speaker 4: I end up becoming a counselor.
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  Speaker 6: But you're strapping, you know, trying to get out the hood,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: trying to do all these things, and when you get
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: there and you're not healed, it's just the ticking time bump.
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  Speaker 6: And I set myself up for failure in that sense.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Them didn't have healed things that went without fixing. Yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: I was holding onto everything, and we hold on to
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: a lot unforgiveness, anger, all of that, and so everything
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  Speaker 6: flows through our heart, nothing misses it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my doctor told me that I'm just fighting against
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: genetics because he's like, my arteries just are aging faster,
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  Speaker 1: are aging faster than I am.
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  Speaker 2: But heart did these runs in my family, Like my
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: dad had whatever's after four.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Quadrules four, so whatever after that quintuple he had, he
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: had that bypass surgery and my uncle's had like three
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: or four different bipaths surgery.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, and that black heart.
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  Speaker 6: We do genetics, what we do of licro protein A,
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  Speaker 6: so we can tell our community if they're at risk
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: of ever having a heart attack or stroke. So we
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: do a lot of things on that bus and we're
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: trying to be national with it so we can take this.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: We take this campaign to our community as well, encouraging
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: them to take those small steps.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: How can people reach out to y'all for you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: more questions, you know, if they got more, oh, for
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: questions and more info.
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  Speaker 3: So certainly go to the website Live to Thebeat dot
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  Speaker 3: org forward slash Heart to Heart. That's where you can
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: get more and more information about Live to the Beat
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  Speaker 3: and all of the many more strategies than we've been
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: able to cover today. And also you can reach us
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: through through that website that someone will follow up with you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: What about Black Heart Association.
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  Speaker 6: So we're Black Heart Association dot org and we're about
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: to get two more buses one in Houston one and
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  Speaker 6: San Antonio and hopefully we'll be in national So amazing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, people need to support what y'all doing and tap
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: in because I don't know, Heart to these the number
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  Speaker 1: one killer of black people in America.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Right, that's correct? Yeah? Can I just say thank you
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: to you all for opening up this conversation, for making
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: it real, for letting people know that it's okay to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: say that we're not okay, because we're not okay, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: we can be better. Absolutely, but we have to start.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I've been running to the ear for as long as
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I can remember, because you know, I got to deal
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with anxiety.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: So you know, when you have anxiety and you having these.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Panic attacks when you're young, you always think it's a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: heart attack. So I always was running to the er,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out what was going on
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in my heart. And it wasn't until over the past
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: year and some change when I did a whole lot
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of tests. I did DISARI in medical skin with doctor Puma,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and that's when my mind finally was at ease.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I know what I needed to do for my heart health.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and the fact that you bring up running to
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: the er, don't allow them to tell you that it's
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: not anxiety or that anxiety doesn't lead to heart issues,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: because it does and you can find out more about
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: that on the Heart to Heart campaign. But it does,
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: and those issues impact your hearts. Depression all that, you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: impacts our hearts. So we have to be really mindful
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: when we hang out with these things and when we
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: go into the er, have your voice, activate your voice
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: as power in our voices and speak up because just
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: they will dismiss the fact that you have just just
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: anxiety or just this. So make sure that they're doing
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: those hard check ups when you arrive at the e R.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, doctor Leandrews Libert. Did I pronounce
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that right? No, it's not fine and.
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  Speaker 5: You can't be messing up the body that's going that's
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: going to contribute to the heart.
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  Speaker 2: And Tyre Robinson, thank you for joining us this morning.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Wait till that's up in the morning.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club