Latest / Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50 / BUILDING COMMUNITY WHEN YOU'RE OVER 50 - WITH GUEST BREAM CEO RYAN REID
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- 0:04Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
- 0:12professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
- 0:17Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden.
- 0:20Kendall, welcome everyone to Uncluttered and Unfiltered.
- 0:23We have a special episode for you today because Christine and
- 0:26all of her scrolling came across a project that is really of
- 0:31interest to us because it's another woman who recognized
- 0:35that there are a lot of us out there looking for connection.
- 0:39So before and we're going to chat for a minute before we
- 0:42bring this guest on, but tell us a little bit about what you
- 0:45uncovered about Bream. Well, first of all, I
- 0:50accidentally ran into them and it just piqued my interest
- 0:54because they haven't even started yet.
- 0:56It it launches Friday, March 17th, 13th, March 13th and it's
- 1:06of course when she said over 55 finding new friends, activity
- 1:10groups and affinity groups. It just, it caught my attention,
- 1:14so I kept following them to see what it was really all about and
- 1:20I think it's going to be great. I think it you find local women
- 1:24in your area to make friends, to do activities with.
- 1:30I just think it's great and it's different than what was that one
- 1:35Hinge app or whatever were fine friends or whatever.
- 1:38Yeah, fine, friends. And yeah, it's.
- 1:40Not like that 'cause this is for over women over 50, so it's a
- 1:44different demographic. For I.
- 1:47Love it. I love it and and you have said
- 1:49from day one that the biggest problem facing our age group, if
- 1:54I don't know if it was, it's the biggest, but you've certainly
- 1:56said that it is a big problem and that is finding that
- 1:59connection, which leads me to something I wanted to share with
- 2:02you. While we're waiting for Ryan,
- 2:05who is the entrepreneur we're talking about, while we're
- 2:08waiting for her to join us, I wanted to share something that
- 2:11happened and thank everyone. So I started realizing that we
- 2:15were getting, I think, a really extraordinary amount of emails
- 2:20from companies wanting to collaborate with us and our
- 2:24download numbers were going up a little bit.
- 2:27And I was like, what is happening here?
- 2:29What has what has changed? Well, they heard that I'm going
- 2:32to dance a disco dance if we double our followers by that's.
- 2:36True, I'm sure that word got out.
- 2:38That's what happened. Well, and luckily while that was
- 2:43happening, there are a couple of these websites that highlight
- 2:49certain categories of podcasts to make them more searchable.
- 2:53The first one is Feedspot. So we got a letter from Feedspot
- 2:57saying we wanted to let you know that you have been selected by
- 3:00our panelists of as one of the top 70 women over 50 podcasts on
- 3:05the web. So I was like top 70.
- 3:08That's lower than I wanted to be.
- 3:10We're #31 on that particular list.
- 3:13So on that one, we're #31 which isn't bad.
- 3:16There's another list, this one is from the Pod Ranker, and Pod
- 3:22Ranker wanted us to know that our show came in at #8 on their
- 3:27Older Ladies Podcasts 2026 list. They're just trying to be nice
- 3:33by calling us older ladies. This is this is how they
- 3:37described us to their to their audience, Christine and Eden.
- 3:41The contrast between a professional organizer and a
- 3:43self-described over scheduled, disorganized Co host makes for
- 3:47such a fun dynamic. Over 180 episodes and you can
- 3:51still hear that chemistry. So.
- 3:54I liked it. I like that we're on a list that
- 3:57is designed for women who are looking for a podcast.
- 4:00Exactly over 50. There really.
- 4:03Aren't that many out there? You're right.
- 4:06And and also that's another reason why we continue to ask
- 4:10you share us with one friend because as you may remember from
- 4:14past episodes, we have promised you a party worth travelling to
- 4:20come attend that starts at 5:00 PM, wraps up 8:30 or 9:00 at the
- 4:26latest. We could say 9.
- 4:27I'll stay out a little later for this.
- 4:29That is late for you. It will have to be on a weekend.
- 4:33Yes. And there will be 70s and 80s
- 4:36music. There will be Christine dancing
- 4:41and sinking to some Osmond songs.
- 4:44Oh my God, that's a definite. Yeah.
- 4:47So we just have to, we just have to see a double in our numbers.
- 4:51We're not sharing what that looks like with you exactly
- 4:55because that would be uncouth. Right I.
- 4:58Agree. Done.
- 4:59It's just not I. Agree, I I definitely think it
- 5:02can happen. I have faith in our community
- 5:06so. As do I.
- 5:08Oh, she's here. Good, there she is.
- 5:10There's Ryan. And the reason she would.
- 5:12Probably be here. We're so happy to have you,
- 5:14Ryan, and the reason you didn't struggle to hop on this with us
- 5:17is because you are not a Gen. Xer.
- 5:20So you didn't have all of the little issues that Christine and
- 5:22I had trying to go on an online I'm.
- 5:24Surprised, like I was saying before I'm I'm not super
- 5:28technically capable so I'm glad it went pretty smooth.
- 5:32It really, really did. We're happy to have you.
- 5:36We have so many questions. But now that we are face to face
- 5:39and we see that you are not 50, not 60, let's start there like
- 5:45you are somebody who's recognizing that lack of
- 5:48community that women of a certain age feel.
- 5:51Yeah, so I'm 35. I get this question a lot.
- 5:54Like, why are you building something for women over 50?
- 5:57I've spent my whole career building communities.
- 6:00I'm a community builder. I see the problems with like
- 6:04loneliness and isolation that every age group is dealing with
- 6:07right now. And then I've also spent my
- 6:10whole career designing with and for intergenerationally,
- 6:14especially for people over 55. So really it's just like the
- 6:19through line of what I've been doing, what I've been
- 6:21researching around community and felt like this was a, a
- 6:25demographic that is just so profoundly failed by the market
- 6:30and wanted to do something there, felt like I had the right
- 6:33skills to do it. I work with an intergenerational
- 6:37team. So yeah, I'm, I'm, I am the CEO
- 6:39and founder and I'm 35 but feel super passionate about building
- 6:44something great for women over 50.
- 6:46And let's be honest, could somebody my age do what you're
- 6:49doing right now? Yes, I'm sure there's somebody
- 6:52out there with those that skill set.
- 6:54But we're just glad you're here. You know, we're really grateful.
- 6:57We're really grateful. Christine has a lot of
- 7:00questions. She's the one who discovered
- 7:02you. I'm the one that discovered you
- 7:04on TikTok. On TikTok, OK.
- 7:06Scrolling and this was a month ago or whatever.
- 7:09And I said, Oh my gosh, she's perfect because I, I don't see
- 7:14anything like this out there. How did you decide to start
- 7:17this? Yeah, so I started out doing a
- 7:22lot of, well, let me back up. In 2016, I got a Fulbright
- 7:28research grant to study the way that women age and community in
- 7:32Nepal. So I was living in Nepal for one
- 7:34year, studying that, you know, how how women connect across
- 7:38generations and and age and community.
- 7:41And I was just so blown away about by how different that is
- 7:44than the way we think about community here in the US.
- 7:48So that was happening. I was researching that, thinking
- 7:51a lot about that. And then like I said before, I'm
- 7:54a community builder. This is like what I love to do.
- 7:57I love to be in community with people.
- 7:59I think it's so important for health and well-being for
- 8:02myself. And so I was building various
- 8:05communities since I got back from Nepal.
- 8:08And then I started bream about two years ago.
- 8:11And it's taken different forms over time.
- 8:13But really the central thing we've done is Co design
- 8:18everything. So if you're not familiar with
- 8:20that term, we bring women into our headquarters here and think
- 8:25about everything from product and marketing and business model
- 8:29with them. So it's been a series of
- 8:31experiments and and Co designing over time that ultimately got to
- 8:35this idea around community and bringing women together.
- 8:40And I'm happy to share like how we got there and what it is and
- 8:43all of that. But yeah, that's kind of how I
- 8:46got to this point of of starting a community for women over 50.
- 8:50And let's talk about what that community would look like to the
- 8:53average user. Yeah, absolutely.
- 8:56So we are launching our our beta product to our wait list on
- 9:01Friday, March 13th. So just in a few days.
- 9:03And what will be in that product is the ability for women to find
- 9:09new friends, affinity groups and experiences both locally and
- 9:14virtually. So a few of the things that are
- 9:17in there are pods. So we pair you with a group of
- 9:21eight women. That's your pod.
- 9:24What we're really hoping with there is that they're like your
- 9:26companion group that you go through your experience and
- 9:29bream with. Hopefully you build really deep
- 9:32connections with them and you can suggest your pod, like let's
- 9:36attend this bream event together or do that.
- 9:39So that's like your core group in there.
- 9:41Then in addition to that, there are affinity groups.
- 9:44So those are based around like interests, life stages, all
- 9:49kinds of things. And and users can also suggest
- 9:53their own interests or affinity groups.
- 9:55Then there's forums. A woman, one of our Co designers
- 10:00called it Reddit if it were just for women over 50.
- 10:04So you're like outsourcing with other other women, like the
- 10:07people who you trust and want to hear from, right.
- 10:11And then there's things like messaging and, and other ways to
- 10:14connect one to one with, with other women in bream.
- 10:17Really the idea there too, is that like you can connect with
- 10:20breamers, we call them locally in your city, but also like, say
- 10:24you travel, you can meet up with another woman in another city or
- 10:27plan a trip together somewhere. So yeah, that's, that's what's.
- 10:31Oh, and then I didn't say there's events.
- 10:33So virtual events, and if Bream is open in your city, which we
- 10:39have to have a certain number of members, there are local events
- 10:43like hikes and meetups. Try it with me, like try
- 10:47beginner classes together as a group, restaurant meetups, that
- 10:50kind of thing in person. So yeah, that's what's in Bream
- 10:54for our beta launch. You know what it makes me think
- 13:28of without getting religious, but I've attended in a big
- 13:34church setting where they've said, listen, this doesn't have
- 13:37to be a big church. If you join a small group,
- 13:40that's how you make it small. And what you've done is you're
- 13:44saying it's going to be huge, but you're going to be in a
- 13:46small group. This pod, which makes it less
- 13:49scary if you're planning to be with the big group eventually,
- 13:54but you go with your people and that's yeah.
- 13:56It's like showing up to a party with a bunch of friends already.
- 14:00Yeah, that's great. This sounds amazing.
- 14:03I I thought it was more just local but this is even better
- 14:08because you can virtually meet up with people which a lot now
- 14:14especially post COVID it takes a lot to get us over 55 people out
- 14:19of the house. So I think this is.
- 14:23Fantastic. You know, so if you prefer to,
- 14:26yeah. Like because we, you know, when
- 14:28we were thinking about this, we had women who are very
- 14:30introverted to very extroverted and like how you socialize is
- 14:34really different based on who you are and your preferences.
- 14:37So we wanted to have different ways that you could plug in.
- 14:41And even what you were talking about with like the religious
- 14:44community, it makes me think of like a third space.
- 14:47Have you heard of that term? It's like, why does it?
- 14:50Ring a bell? Yeah, it's like a another space.
- 14:53Like I think religious communities have functioned as
- 14:55that. Like if you think of your
- 14:57workout group or workout class like those spaces that are a
- 15:02community building that are outside of work and family.
- 15:07Which is something Chris and I were just talking about, she
- 15:09said. Well, you have your community
- 15:11because you're a runner. You have the running community
- 15:13and. And I said.
- 15:15And tell Ryan, Chris what you just said about what happens if
- 15:21I end up all alone. I said you have your community,
- 15:25you're a runner. And there there's such a big
- 15:27group of them. I said, what if I end up alone
- 15:30in my house even though I work and I'm an organizer and I do.
- 15:34But you know, when you're older, I'm thinking I'm 63.
- 15:37So I'm thinking way down the road, like when I'm 75 or 80 or
- 15:41whatever, you know, this is so important to have friends
- 15:46through that stage of life. Not just I'm 63, but like
- 15:50656870, you know what I mean? It's so important to continue it
- 15:57through. Yes, I want that too.
- 16:00And I think there's like so few systems in place that support us
- 16:04in that, like in any phase of life, we're going through
- 16:08transitions. And when I think about big life
- 16:10transitions, I've had friends have been so critical and
- 16:13important to get me through those.
- 16:15And like what you're talking about, Christine, like there's
- 16:17different life phases we're going through from like 50
- 16:21onwards. And having a community of women
- 16:24around that can support you and, and help you through those is,
- 16:28is really important. Even I'm so curious to hear
- 16:30about your running group and like what you do together.
- 16:33And all of that was so cool. We take turns coming up with
- 16:37ideas that could potentially kill each other is what we do,
- 16:40basically. Like really long runs you're
- 16:42going to do. Right now.
- 16:43Or or oh, that that wasn't hard enough.
- 16:45What if we did an adventure race where we also have to bike and
- 16:49kayak and find our way around without a map?
- 16:52Oh, OK, let's do that. Wow, we're like, we've lived
- 16:56long enough. Let's just keep.
- 16:59Vicariously through her. But but The thing is, though,
- 17:03Ryan, what you're saying, it sounds almost like you could
- 17:05find that one other woman somewhere in the world that
- 17:10likes playing mahjong and going running and also has, you know,
- 17:14maybe doesn't have any kids and is single late in life.
- 17:18You know, there's so many different boxes you can take off
- 17:21that would keep somebody from maybe connecting.
- 17:24But now geography is no longer an issue.
- 17:27Yes, and we do ask like in the beginning when your first
- 17:31onboarding, we ask a lot of questions about you like how you
- 17:34socialize, who you are, what you care about, what your interests
- 17:37are. And without we're we're working
- 17:40behind the scenes to pair women together who in the pods or in
- 17:44other ways and interest groups who have those shared interests
- 17:48or life stage or whatever that is.
- 17:50So yeah, it's not like we're matchmakers, but we are trying
- 17:54to nudge you towards people we think you would get along with.
- 17:58What is? What is the?
- 17:59What is the cost for the user? Yeah.
- 18:02So for our beta launch, it's a monthly subscription.
- 18:06It's $19.00 a month or if you pay annually, it ends up being
- 18:1014 a month. So like equivalent to a Netflix
- 18:12subscription? Yeah.
- 18:14I mean, there's a, there's a price you can, you can't put a
- 18:18price tag, I guess on, on community.
- 18:20Yeah, yeah. And new friends.
- 18:23I mean, I just think that so many people are so lonely and
- 18:27this is such a great idea because they are not.
- 18:31They like even going out to dinner with somebody or talking
- 18:34to someone virtually. It just it, it really helps when
- 18:38you're alone and you don't know what to do.
- 18:41So I thought this was a great idea for women over 50.
- 18:45I really did. Yeah, and like, no.
- 18:48Please, you continue, Ryan. I was.
- 18:50Just going to say that on our pricing, we really went through
- 18:56a lot of phases of like what, what should that be and ask
- 18:59women what they thought. Initially we were planning to
- 19:03make it free for women and then we would have brand partnerships
- 19:07inside the product, but they told us no, That feels weird.
- 19:10Like we just want this to be a safe, like curated, vetted group
- 19:13of women who are in here. So that's how we got to the
- 19:17monthly membership in the. I agree with that.
- 19:20I like that. Yeah, I like that.
- 19:22I agree. We have, we have all of our
- 19:25social media and then we have a ladies only group.
- 19:28It's uncluttered and unfiltered ladies only.
- 19:30And the women who want to be a part of that know that you can
- 19:34make comments on all of our reels and Tik Toks and what have
- 19:38you, but the world is going to see those.
- 19:40But then within this one safe space where we have to approve
- 19:44you before you come in, there's no cost on that.
- 19:47But what I'm saying is you just to know that you're now inside a
- 19:50safe space and the person who's commenting isn't trying to sell
- 19:53you anything, isn't trying to take advantage of you in any
- 19:57way. So.
- 19:58That makes sense. You're paying for security.
- 20:00Exactly. And the privacy, and, you know,
- 20:03we're not selling your data and it's moderated, so there's
- 20:07really strict community guidelines to make sure it feels
- 20:10safe for everyone inside. That's great.
- 20:13I hope you have so much success. I hope is waste by you all the
- 20:18way that you know, I hope people are are are being hit by this
- 20:22news the way we were, which was just like bravo.
- 20:25And I'm even more excited now that I know that the people
- 20:28behind it are of all different generations.
- 20:30Yeah. Thank you.
- 20:31I really appreciate that. And.
- 20:33You know why I like that? Because you know, one day you're
- 20:36going to be where we are. Exactly.
- 20:38That's the crazy thing. Every day, every moment,
- 20:41everyone is getting older. But somehow our society has,
- 20:44like, amnesia about that. I am designing this like, truly,
- 20:48I say this a lot to our team and early users.
- 20:51I'm designing this with, like, the long game in mind.
- 20:54I'm designing this for myself, right?
- 20:56For my, you know, future children, all of that.
- 20:58Like this is, yeah, this is for the long term.
- 21:03How can our How can our listeners get on your waiting
- 21:06list? So they can join our wait list
- 21:08at hellobream.com. You just put in your name,
- 21:11e-mail and zip code. If they're on our wait list by
- 21:15March 13th they'll get access to beta.
- 21:18Otherwise, they'll get access at the public launch in April,
- 21:22mid-april. That sounds good.
- 21:24I have one other question. How did you come up with that
- 21:26name? Because it's BRE AM and I just
- 21:30want our listeners to know that that's how it's spelled so they
- 21:32can. Find you.
- 21:33Yes, thank you. Yeah, so it's Hello BR eam.com
- 21:38And a bream is a small fish that swims in a school of fish.
- 21:44And that's how they thrive and survive and do well.
- 21:47So that's where the name comes from.
- 21:49It's like the idea that community and community support
- 21:52is well-being. Oh, I love that.
- 21:54Yes. I'll be swimming with my minnows
- 21:59so. One of the things we do, Ryan,
- 22:02and we're not going to keep you much past this, but one of the
- 22:04things we do is we always end every one of our episodes with
- 22:08saying something that you can let go and don't look back.
- 22:12Whether that's, you know, something it has to do with
- 22:14organizing because Christine's a professional organizer, or maybe
- 22:17it has something to do with a behavior or just baggage you're
- 22:22carrying around. So I guess didn't we say, Chris,
- 22:25did you write down what you came up with?
- 22:26No, I. Didn't write it down, but if you
- 22:29think the time has come where you can't make new friends.
- 22:33Well, you can let that go. And don't look back.
- 22:36I love it, I love it. I one that comes to mind too is
- 22:41I love that one, Christine, that's so good is letting go of
- 22:45not being who you actually are. Like just show up authentically.
- 22:48I think that's so important when you're building community and
- 22:51friendships.