Latest / The Central Indiana Sports Report / The Pacers Report with Mike Rich & John Robertson (2.89.1)

Transcript

The Pacers Report with Mike Rich & John Robertson (2.89.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the Pacer's report with Mike Rich and John Robertson, only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back, Pacer's fans to our weekly Pacer's report with our Pacer's Guide, Mike Rich,
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here to talk about your 1 in 13 Indiana Pacers officially the worst record in the NBA.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Early on, they were losing games and they felt like a good basketball team.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: The last 6-7 games, this is not a good basketball team.
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: In their current state, they are not a good basketball team.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe there is still potential.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think injuries are still the key issue here and just getting the right chemistry on the court.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And, but this is not anywhere near the team we're used to seeing play for Indiana.
• 1:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just disappointing.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey John, I was thinking about this earlier today.
• 1:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this might turn out to be a win-win season.
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every game they win is a sign of improvement with Ciacca, Mather, and Jackson, and Nimhard, Neismith.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every game they lose is closer to landing at potential franchise player and man.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are going to be a ton of them in this draft.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, when or lose, there's good news, right?
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of was thinking that, also, I think we haven't really seen what the team can do because we haven't had any games really with all the pieces except for the opening night.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, whatever happens is fine, I don't think this team does bad as the record shows, I just think they've never, they don't have any other play together.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just haven't been able to play together as a unit, like they finally got a mother and look pretty decent tonight.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, once he gets his feet under and will be alright, and he's a finally back, and Nimmar is finally back.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So just give him some time to get back into swing, but I think we'll be okay, but.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: like if we lose and get a good draft pick, it's fine too.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like we all, we all knew the season wasn't gonna be a good season.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I didn't know that.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You keep playing that, John.
• 2:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that at all.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been saying that for since the finals.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ever since my Aliburms office, the next season is a wash.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it was a wash this season.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: You guys were saying we're gonna get 50 wins and whatever before the season.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, y'all are nuts.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's that 47.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think what I say 42.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I still contend that if the team plays as is they are 50 went to but we'll never know I don't think that's the goal anymore.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the goal is to continue to improve this roster to turn matter and into something valuable and uh to get a nice draft pick and come back next year ready to turn it around because
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: One and thirteen guys isn't impossible to make the playoffs.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: But sure, he's unlikely.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Madder and looked pretty good for his first game back though.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can we agree that he actually looks a little bit, yeah.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's an elite score, man.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: No doubt about it.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's played three games in these average and close to 30 points a game.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's not in a wrong with Madder's game.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm slow start tonight, but what we've seen from him.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's an elite score.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to get, he can get better.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to build your franchise around Benedict Maatherin and the way he places game, fine.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have no problem with that.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a certainly a way to go because he can be that kind of guy.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this franchise isn't built around that.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: This franchise is a built around moving the ball.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tyrese Hall of Burton.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sorry Benedict Maatherin doesn't fit that plan.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need somebody that can rebound.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: We need somebody to rebound and make shots.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I felt like Angel Reese was on the paces and they're in the fourth quarter.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it looked like.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just got missing bunnies and didn't rebound and missing again.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, are you kidding guys?
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: They got out scoring a pain by probably 25.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Easy.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're already points.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: They look terrible inside.
• 4:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't know inside presence whatsoever.
• 4:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there a Jackson's playing?
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and all right, gain.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get two people that break 20 and you can't get anybody to get over 12, anybody else.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to win games like that.
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're going to win games when you're calling time out and getting technical files because you're running out of time outs.
• 5:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Three games in a row.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably never happy.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this team's making history.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's never happened.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen that before.
• 5:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not three games in a row.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I forty-nine seconds ahead of the game you're calling time out because you're concerned about your defense.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was a story of the rest of the game.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: The Pascal Siocans look great.
• 5:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's the real dude.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's good.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You were right on that, Greg.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's the best season to help having his career.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And next season, it's going to be even better.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm really good.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: When you throw this level of game, Pascal Siocans coming, you can buy no retirees, however, and that's going to be fun next year.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a number and a top three draft day.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, I've been watching this in college basketball, it's amazing how it happens when the pace was, I haven't had bad season, I watch a lot more college basketball partly because I did not assist with the pace and watching them two or three times, which I have typically done in my life of watching all the games over at least once, because they're my team.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Also, because of the talent and college basketballs going to be in the NBA pretty soon, and let me tell you guys, if you haven't been watching,
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are four guys, and they are all exceptional basketball players, drawing comparisons to the all-time grades.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm certain about all of them to a different degrees with different levels of ceiling.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if the Pacers can get a top four pick, and if they can get a first round draft pick out a
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It changes the trajectory of this franchise for the next decade and a half.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if you haven't seen any of them, Darren Peterson from Kansas is incredible.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fucker from Duke.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who you have from Duke is a seven footer who has everything to his game.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, deep.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you get the amante as not right, but BYU is 69 and every bit of incredible and maybe the best of all of Miss Caleb Wilson from North Carolina who has had an absurdly good start and any of those four guys completely changes this franchise and gives them an opportunity they wouldn't have other white head.
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we start the big that way.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: As long as we don't take the guy from Duke, I'm happy.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just don't want anybody from Duke.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, uh, I, I, I like the draft pick of Ben Matherin.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But another option in that draft was Jalen Dern.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: And boys, he good.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: He had a good game tonight.
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has a good one.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Bam out of bio, like in his game, and I like it a lot.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: This was a good.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Pistons are really good.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And are deep.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think three of their starters are injured.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think those might be additions by subtraction, partly, not counting ham certainly.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the other guys, I'm not sure they even want them back to be honest with you.
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because the future of life, I mean, doesn't even start, doesn't he?
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Playing, yes, yeah.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the future of that franchise is without a doubt.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jaylander and Isaiah Stewart, and whichever of the Thompson twin is who is incredible, who didn't play tonight either.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trapped back to the stuff that matters to me.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to say which game to go to a way this year, where do you think that I was thinking about picking up Philly and Boston in the same stretch waiting?
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be a credible trip, that's for sure.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially for your US historian.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can't do any better than that trip.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: you know, I think that's in December or March.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I forget when it was, but I think March that's probably a good time to go.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: December.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, any Boston was there was a December Boston game.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like that's 22nd.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, do I want to drive to Boston or fly to Boston right around Christmas?
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and probably not.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's all though Boston at Christmas time would be pretty amazing.
• 10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's all that matters over here right now in the past season, because there's not not much else going on.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So trying to figure out which way games to go to, I can achieve this year.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: One thing we definitely need to be watching is the development of Jaris Walker and Mike, it's not good, particularly when it comes to scoring.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was predicting this guy was going to make a leap and was another reason I thought they were going to win 50 games and it has not happened at all.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: With the opportunities gotten the good news is it looks like he's going to get plenty of opportunities to show whether he can play or not.
• 10:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: he's going to get plenty of opportunities and there's not much left on the bench for I'm not to get the opportunities but he isn't taking an advantage of it.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it might be too much for him right now and I think a lot of it's got to do just with the rest of the team.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's disappointing that it's too much for him right now.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just thought he'd be ready by now.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think these losses are just add and up and I think that's got to impact your mental psyche a lot and the chemistry on the team and there's got to be some rumblings going around in that locker room.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not all sunshine and rainbows in there.
• 11:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're probably getting pretty frustrated and who wouldn't.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a worst start and franchise history.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: after being in a finals last in what five takes one to go, five, five months ago or whatever, but I think that being in the finals is part of what's led to all these injuries.
• 11:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I think the shortoff season just has catching up with everybody.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I agree.
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the shortoff season.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: at Oklahoma cities had too long runs in a row as well.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a reason people get interest because they play more games.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Jordan played three finals in a row and was never injured.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: This all this stuff makes no sense that all of a sudden everybody's injured all the time.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: They used to play 82 games a year, they played back to back nights, three games and four nights and nobody ever got injured.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they also drank more beer and cigarettes.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was maybe that's the thing we need to go back to that.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm saying maybe they need to drink more beer
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a car, I do think they were sturdier because they weren't as maxed out on stuff.
• 12:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think they just body types and the amount of, I just think the way they work out is different which makes them more susceptible.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying they weren't tougher before, I do think they were tough and they played through it, but I'm just saying, there's not that much difference in toughness, it makes any sense that the injuries are the way they are now compared to what they used to
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: being tougher cannot be the equation.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: The level of toughness and humans over the last 40 years of our lifetime is definitely gone down, but not to that level where it makes sense to me.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: But just makes no sense to me.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand why everyone in the NBA is injured.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: If both teams have a roster that's full, it's not worthy.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: There should be less injuries these days.
• 13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every time I went, every time I went to a patient's game growing up, it was the entire lineup was in the game.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every time almost it's the beer.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We'll just say it's the shrimp on the beer and cigarettes.
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: The beer's the party and Swalker game one this year score 13 point shot 54% here are his shooting percentages since that game 15 25 26 46 22 47 27 43 29
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: 12, zero, 22.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's about average and about 130%.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is shooting 29.3% for the year.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's three points shot.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Looks like I have no chance.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was just adding those numbers up in my head and you know finding the average as you were putting them in.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I knew it was right at 30% so a little bit off.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about that.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, as we close out a Whitable game on Wednesday with the Hornets coming to town before going to Cleveland.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then the return trip from the Pistons, a week from Monday.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, some good news is the Milwaukee Bucks suck.
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all in a scout engine tonight too, didn't they?
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are not good.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're a really not good team, and I am enjoying it out of that.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love to hate watch sports, and I hate the Milwaukee Bucks.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, guys.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't stand any of the Milwaukee teams.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: All of them.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that includes the Madison team, too.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much to Mike and John.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have a lot of talk.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of fun talking, and Pacers with them.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's not as much fun as it was.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Last year.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they're still a ton to watch.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of basketball left the season that we're looking forward to, and we'll be here every step of your way.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll start having reactions to games more often going forward.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And of course the Pacers report every week.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It'll start being Monday, regularly, I'm sure, or Tuesday mornings.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you so much for listening.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Please do us a huge favor, share this podcast with the Pacers fan in your life and help spread the word that the Central Indian Sports Report.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: is here talking about what central Indiana sports fans are talking about every single day.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG media and I love Susie.