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Jesus on Morality, Time and Space · Urantia Radio

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  All is fine in Florida, where I'm at, where I've been since we
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  started this podcast. And I want to thank those who
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  wrote and emailed and called while things were a little hairy
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  and scary. And just to let you know that
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  for the most part, everything is fine here, although I can't
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  speak for the 10s of thousands of people around the country who
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  are enduring quite a bit of hardship.
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  And yeah, you know, I see it on TV and it looks pretty awful.
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  And I've been through that before.
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  And I think if we go back to a couple of years ago, I provided
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  some content on the last hurricane that I was in.
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  And again, it's, it's just the process of life.
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  And I'll tell you though, I am assured and I feel good that
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  these things always bring out the best in people.
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  There's no question about that. So in the last episode or the
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  last podcast, we've been would have been delving into the the
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  actual words of Jesus throughout his life.
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  And we're focusing on that period just before he went about
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  his public preaching and teaching.
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  And, and now we're in the phase where his actual public
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  teachings are sort of wrapping up and, and he took time to
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  speak about certain things that just when you read them, it's
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  absolutely amazing. And last time we explored what
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  the master said about reality itself.
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  And now from from, I think it's paper 143 or it's.
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  Yeah. And now he's going to give a
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  discourse on time and space. And time and space are two huge
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  preoccupations of modern science and philosophy as well.
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  And so the pretext to this is that these are the words of
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  Christ as he communicated them to the people of his day and
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  age. But they have been sort of
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  updated to our own English. And so the revelators, they,
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  they wanted the truths of what Jesus taught these people to
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  also teach us. And so on time and space, the
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  story starts here. And he is talking to people
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  privately, and he's teaching them the the Creator Son of the
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  universe, the bestowal son, in the presence of these men is
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  teaching them about the realities of time and space.
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  So it reads that at Carthage Jesus had a long and memorable
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  talk with a Mithraic priest about immortality, about time
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  and eternity. Now this Persian had been
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  educated at Alexandria and he really desired to learn from
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  Jesus put into the words of today.
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  In substance, Jesus said in answer to his many questions,
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  Time is the stream of flowing temporal events perceived by
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  creature consciousness. Time is a name given to the
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  succession arrangements whereby events are recognized and
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  segregated. The universe of space is a time
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  related phenomenon as it is viewed from any interior
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  position outside of the fixed abode of Paradise.
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  The motion of time is only revealed in relation to
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  something which does not move in space.
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  As a time phenomena in the universe of universes, Paradise
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  and its deities transcend both time and space on the inhabited
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  worlds. Human personality, indwelt and
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  oriented by the Paradise Father's spirit, is the only
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  physically related reality which can transcend the material
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  sequence of temporal events. Animals do not sense time as man
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  does, and even to man, because of his sectional and
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  circumscribed view, time appears as a succession of events.
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  But as man ascends, as he progresses inward, the enlarging
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  view of this event procession is that is such that it is
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  discerned more and more in its wholeness.
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  That which formerly appeared as a succession of events, then,
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  will be viewed as a whole and perfectly related cycle.
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  In this way, will circular simultaneity increasingly
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  displace the one time consciousness of the linear
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  sequence of events. There are 7 different
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  conceptions of space as it is conditioned by time.
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  Space is measured by time, not time by space.
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  The confusion of the scientist. Now remember, this is the
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  Creator's Son teaching mankind. The confusion of the scientists
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  grows out of the failure to recognize the reality of space.
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  Space is not merely an intellectual concept of the
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  variation in relatedness of universe objects.
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  Space is not empty, and the only thing man knows which can even
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  partially transcend space is mind.
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  Mind can function independently of the concept of space
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  relatedness of material objects. Space is relatively and
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  comparatively finite to all beings of creature status.
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  The nearer consciousness approaches the awareness of
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  seven cosmic dimensions, the more does the concept of
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  potential space approach ultimacy.
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  But the space potential is truly ultimate only on the absolute
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  level. It may be apparent that
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  universal reality has an expanding and always relative
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  meaning on the ascending and perfecting levels of the cosmos.
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  Ultimately, surviving mortals achieve identity in A7
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  dimensional universe. The time space concept of a mind
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  of material origin is destined to undergo successive
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  enlargements as the conscious and conceiving personality
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  ascends the level or the levels of the universe.
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  So with each stage of those seven cosmic dimensions, we, our
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  vision, our spiritual vision, our visual, our mind
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  appreciation and and conceptual understanding will expand
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  sevenfold. The enlarging cosmic conceptions
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  of an advancing spirit personality are due to the
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  augmentations of both depth of insight and scope of
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  consciousness. So as we ascend, our
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  consciousness enlarges, we're able to appreciate our minds
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  become almost super, and as personality passes on upward and
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  inward to the transcendental levels of Deity, the time space
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  concept will increasingly approximate the timeless and
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  spaceless concepts of the absolutes or of God.
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  Relatively and in accordance with transcendental attainment.
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  These concepts of the absolute level are to be envisioned by
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  the children of ultimate destiny.
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  So we were destined to at one day in that future state, be
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  able to see the universe as God sees the universe, and He is the
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  only thing in the universe that doesn't change.
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  He is from the outside looking in, so he sees the whole
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  picture. This is when you hear Preacher
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  say that God is never surprised. He never is surprised by events.
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  He's not surprised by human nature because he's already seen
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  it. He knows the future.
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  He knows how his will is projected to be fulfilled.
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  We are a part of that process. And as we ascend in his
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  universe, we become more cognitive, more perceptive of,
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  of understanding the wholeness of, of any given situation.
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  And when you're a father and you look at your children, you have
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  the insight that they don't have.
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  And so you are more patient with them because you know to a
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  certain degree at least what their life is going to or not
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  specifically what's going to happen, but a series of things
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  do occur as each of us grow. And and then that sort of gives
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  you a, a glimpse of the perception of how God views the
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  living universe. So that's Jesus talking about
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  some pretty heavy subjects there, time and space.
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  And he was speaking that to a Mithraic priest.
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  And that priest actually went on to become a huge supporter of
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  the early Christian Church. And I think we have time for one
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  more. I wanted to do this too on
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  values. It was at Angamon.
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  This is from Paper 132 and this is on values and this again is
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  the Creator's Son, the bestowal son of the living Father,
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  sharing truth along the way to those people he met on and
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  during his sojourn in Rome. So from paper 132, it's brief.
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  It was at Agambon, the leader of the Stoics, that Jesus had an
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  all night talk early during this his sojourn in Rome.
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  This man subsequently became a great friend of Paul and proved
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  to be one of the strong supporters of the Christian
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  Church at Rome. In substance and restated in
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  modern phraseology, Jesus taught Angamon the standard of true
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  values must be looked for in the spiritual world and on divine
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  levels of eternal reality. To an ascending mortal.
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  All lower and material standards must be recognized as transient,
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  partial, and inferior. The scientist as such is limited
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  to the discovery of the relatedness of material facts.
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  Technically, he has no right to assert that he is either a
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  materialist or an idealist, for in so doing he is assumed to
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  forsake the attitude of a true scientist, since any and all
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  such assertions of attitude are the very essence of philosophy.
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  Unless the moral insight and the spiritual attainment of mankind
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  can proportionally be augmented, the unlimited advancement of a
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  purely materialistic culture may eventually become a menace to
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  civilization. A purely materialistic science
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  harbors within in itself the potential seed of the
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  destruction of all scientific striving.
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  For this very attitude presages the ultimate collapse of a
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  civilization which has abandoned its sense of moral values and
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  has repudiated its spiritual goal of attainment.
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  The materialistic scientist and the extreme idealist are
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  destined always to be at loggerheads.
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  This is not true of those scientists and idealists who are
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  in possession of a common standard of high moral values
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  and spiritual test levels. In every age.
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  Scientists and religionists must recognize that they are on trial
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  before the bar of human need. They must eschew all warfare
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  between themselves while they strive valiantly to justify
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  their continued survival by enhanced devotion to the service
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  of human progress. If the so-called science or
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  religion of any age is false, then it must either purify its
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  activities or pass away before the emergence of a material
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  science or spiritual religion of a truer and more worthy order.
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  And those are the thoughts and teachings of Jesus as they were
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  2000 years ago for us to ruminate upon.
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  And with that, we'll continue to pull these gems of knowledge and
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  truth from the life and teachings of Jesus on this The
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  Urantia Radio Podcast on December 14th.
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  I will be doing a presentation. Thanks to the folks at the
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  fellowship and I appreciate the opportunity and I'm going to be
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  speaking on a book that I am in the process of rewriting, which
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  is called Godless, How secularism is destroying
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  society. I would urge you to buy the book
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  after I have revised it, not the current edition.
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  The current edition is incomplete and I want to have
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  another stab at it, but a lot of interesting thoughts that are
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  related to the problems that we're having today are directly
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  a result of secularism. And in fact, Jesus just sort of
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  gave testimony to that from this paper from 1:32.
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  So on the 14th of December, if you want to join, go to the
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  fellowship page, or you can go to just e-mail me and I'll send
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  you the link. How about that?
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  And you can join me in my dissertation on how secularism
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  is a menace to society. And until next time, if you want
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  to reach me or the program, Your Rancher book, radio@gmail.com.
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  Your Rancher book, radio@gmail.com.
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  And until next time, I sure appreciate you stopping by.
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  And I hope that you'll share this podcast with your friends
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  and fellow seekers of truth. Until next time.
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  Until we speak again. Thank you again for stopping by.