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Beautiful 28-yo Shannon Graves’ body parts sealed in plastic bags, stored in freezer while look-a-like allegedly steals identity · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A missing woman's body was
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  Speaker 1: the one being stored in a Camel freezer. Police have
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  Speaker 1: just confirmed that it was Shannon Graves. She hadn't been
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  Speaker 1: seen for several months. First, Who's anchor, Stanboni is live
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  Speaker 1: outside of the Youngstown Police Department right now with more information.
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing tonight just outside of the Youngstown Police Department
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  Speaker 1: of downtown Youngstown, where in the past hour, the police
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  Speaker 1: department has confirmed the identity of the woman found Saturday
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  Speaker 1: in a freezer in Camel. Her name is Shannon Graves.
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  Speaker 1: She is twenty eight years old. For a while, she
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  Speaker 1: was actually on the Ohio Attorney General's missing Person's list.
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  Speaker 1: The confirmation of the identity of Shannon Graves was made
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  Speaker 1: this afternoon after an autopsy done by the Cuyahoga County
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  Speaker 1: Corner's Office. Shannon Grave was just twenty eight years old,
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  Speaker 1: goes missing for a period of time, and then she
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  Speaker 1: is reported missing by her family. So how does a
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  Speaker 1: body end up in a freezer? First? I want to
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  Speaker 1: find out, Well, you know, let's just start at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nasy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I've got an
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  Speaker 1: all star panel lined up to figure this out? How
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  Speaker 1: does a woman go a young woman in the prime
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  Speaker 1: of her life, just twenty eight years old, got her
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  Speaker 1: whole life in front of her, got parents, got siblings,
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  Speaker 1: people that love her. How does she end up not
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  Speaker 1: just in a freezer? You know why it took so
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  Speaker 1: long to figure out who it was? She was dismembered?
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  Speaker 1: What did they just move over the ground beef? They
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  Speaker 1: just move for her body over and reach through the
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  Speaker 1: ground beef down to the frozen pepperoni pizza. How did
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  Speaker 1: this happen to this beautiful young girl. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: her right now. She looks like she should be on
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  Speaker 1: the front of some organic, natural, living, wholesome magazine. Jackie,
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  Speaker 1: look at her? Look out pretty? I mean when you yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what I thought, Jackie said. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: clean living. She's beautiful. I don't mean that in a
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  Speaker 1: homely kind of way, like no makeup and frumpy hair
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  Speaker 1: all that. She's beautiful. She's got kind of brownish honey
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  Speaker 1: blonde hair pulled over. It looks like a kind of
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  Speaker 1: a loose side pony. She's got big, beautiful brown eyes,
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  Speaker 1: a very pretty smile. She's just pretty. She looks like
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  Speaker 1: the girl next door with me. Doctor Michelle Dupree, medical examiner,
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  Speaker 1: author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, doctor Wendy Dickinson, psycholog's
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  Speaker 1: founder of Grow Counseling. Stephen Lampley, detective extraordinaire. Kathleen Murphy,
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  Speaker 1: veteran trial lawyer out of North Carolina. Nimah Hadatti, former
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor, trial veteran. But right now, to John Limley,
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  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, who is this woman?
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  Speaker 1: Why is she in a freezer? Nancy, the way you've
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  Speaker 1: described Shannon Elizabeth Graves is really perfect. You know, she's
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  Speaker 1: like somebody's beloved daughter or granddaughter or best friend, and
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  Speaker 1: she was all of those things. Yeah, I was gonna say, correction,
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  Speaker 1: She's not like somebody's beloved. She is somebody's beloved daughter, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, don't start I'm beloved children because I have
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  Speaker 1: been a nervous wreck about children. My children, they're eleven. Nimahdatti, Dotor,
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Dickinson. You may not have heard me go on
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  Speaker 1: and on and on about them, but they're eleven year
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  Speaker 1: old twins. They're my world. John David just fractured his
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  Speaker 1: foot walking off the playground and Lucy Santa. What was
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  Speaker 1: Heath thanking? I disagree with this. Basanta brought up trampoline,
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  Speaker 1: Lucy jumped on a ball instead of the trampoline and
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  Speaker 1: sprained her ankle, and then the dog the docks and
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  Speaker 1: Mutt hurt his back. Everybody's sick, and I think about
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  Speaker 1: it all day long while they're at school. Yes, this
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  Speaker 1: woman is beloved. Her parents probably thought about her all
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  Speaker 1: the time, like I think about the twins all the time.
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  Speaker 1: John Linley and most of her family last remember seeing
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  Speaker 1: Shannon on Christmas Day. Now, her sister Debbie to Paul
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  Speaker 1: says that she last saw her almost two months later
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  Speaker 1: in mid February. That's when Debbie says she spent some
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  Speaker 1: time with Shannon at her apartment with Shannon's boyfriend. But
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  Speaker 1: then Shannon misses two key family events that spring, first
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  Speaker 1: her sister's birthday in March and then Easter two, which
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  Speaker 1: was a big celebration for the family on that year
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seven teen, Easter was on April sixteenth. Debbie
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  Speaker 1: says that it was not unusual for Shannon to go
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  Speaker 1: really long periods of time without communicating with family members. However,
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  Speaker 1: by the time June arrived. This is when she had
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  Speaker 1: passed a threshold that she'd never crossed before. So Shannon
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  Speaker 1: had never gone so long without contacting someone. So that's
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  Speaker 1: when the family decided this time was different, something was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: so they filed a missing person report with the Youngstown,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Police Department. Shannon's name was also very quickly added
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  Speaker 1: to the Ohio General's Missing Person's website. When they spoke
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  Speaker 1: with police, the family told them that what really bothered
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  Speaker 1: them this time about Shannon's disappearance is what she left behind.
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  Speaker 1: Her car, her cell phone, and most importantly, her dog.
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  Speaker 1: That's something they say Shannon would never in a million
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  Speaker 1: years due is leave her dog behind. Oh goodness, no,
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  Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our friend
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  Speaker 1: at WKB and TV, Shannon Graves when he eight year
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  Speaker 1: old was added to the Ohio Attorney General's Missing Person's
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  Speaker 1: website earlier this month after concerns about her well being. Tonight,
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  Speaker 1: we reached out to the homeowner who discovered the body.
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  Speaker 1: He told us he is too distraught to talk after
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  Speaker 1: finding out that it was Shannon Graves in the freezer,
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  Speaker 1: just like you're saying. John Lemley Crime Online dot com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, where you can find this in all other
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  Speaker 1: breaking crime and justice news Crime online dot com. The
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  Speaker 1: fact that she left behind her dog, and I want
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  Speaker 1: to go for a moment to our new panelist, Atlanta psychologist,
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  Speaker 1: founder of Grow Counseling, doctor Wendy Dickinson. You know, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Dickinson. It was a technique I used often in court,
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  Speaker 1: but really I just recently heard a formal name to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's called routine evidence evidence of routine. I would argue
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  Speaker 1: to a jury this person departed from their regular routine,
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  Speaker 1: and I just noticed it was being called that in
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  Speaker 1: the end on Sayed Case, which is part of Serial
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. Here you've got a woman that goes about
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  Speaker 1: the same routine all the time, and suddenly you find
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  Speaker 1: her cell phone, her purse, and most important, her dog
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  Speaker 1: has been abandoned. Yeah, it's it's um. There's obviously something
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  Speaker 1: going on when we see somebody who just immediately changes
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  Speaker 1: their routine. It's one of the factors that we've worked
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  Speaker 1: for and assessing has there been a trauma? Is there
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  Speaker 1: is there somebody in the person's life that has impacted
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  Speaker 1: them in a way that's caused them to change their routine.
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  Speaker 1: We look for maybe a head trauma or something that's
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  Speaker 1: organic in nature, kind of a biomechanical issue with them,
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  Speaker 1: because those all points to something's changed, something's different. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm glad you're such an optimus doctor
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Dickinson, because Stephen Lampley, from where you and I sit,
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  Speaker 1: when somebody leaves their dog, their cel phone, their purse behind,
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  Speaker 1: they're dead. Okay, Doctor Wendy Dickinson thinks, Hey, maybe they've
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  Speaker 1: had a traumatic event, maybe they're reeling emotionally. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: they're dead. That's usually true, Mancy. Of course, there are
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  Speaker 1: the outside events where a person has become delirious or
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  Speaker 1: injured and is wandering about, but as you and I know,
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  Speaker 1: most of the time, that's what's happened. They're dead somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: One way Shannon was remembered was with pictures scattered on
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  Speaker 1: the railing throughout the gazebo. There were also candles and
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  Speaker 1: boxes of tissues. T shirts were being sold saluting Youngstown
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  Speaker 1: Girls on the front and Justice for Shannon on the back.
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  Speaker 1: Even Shannon's dog, Molly, now in the care of Debby,
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  Speaker 1: was there. It's not the easiest. I have my moments,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a lot going on, so I'm just trying
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  Speaker 1: to stay strong and keep going. As people arrived, there
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  Speaker 1: was some talking, but for the most part they were quiet, solemn,
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  Speaker 1: remembering Shannon Graves. It's a good thing. It's good for people,
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  Speaker 1: you know that our missing her, and it's I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good for awareness of what's going on with the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing, because it's pretty foul. Yeah, foul is one
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  Speaker 1: way to put it. Wk B NTV STANDBONI reporting right there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just don't know sometimes how many more
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  Speaker 1: of these I can take to Nimahdadi, former California prosecutor.
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  Speaker 1: You like I and Lampley have probably seen it all.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I can throw Kathleen Murphy and Limley in
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  Speaker 1: that well, really our whole panel. But Nima, do you
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  Speaker 1: ever get beaten down when you see another scene of
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  Speaker 1: candles and pictures and tissues and stuffed animals because you
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  Speaker 1: know someone has been killed and all the candles in
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  Speaker 1: the world are not going to bring them back. And
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  Speaker 1: the only thing left for some body like you or
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  Speaker 1: me to do it's to seek justice. That's the only
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  Speaker 1: thing I new to do in court. I would get
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  Speaker 1: so overwhelmed with this murder and that murder and this trial,
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  Speaker 1: molestation and that arson. It just seemed to make me
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  Speaker 1: meaner and meaner and meaner, because it's all I could do.
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  Speaker 1: It's fight back. I'm with you, exact same feelings and
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  Speaker 1: candles and pictures. It humanizes everything so much and it
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  Speaker 1: just brings it down to the core and it's devastating,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And the only thing you can do is
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  Speaker 1: just push forward and fight and bring justice to these poor,
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  Speaker 1: devastated families. And I know you know with me from
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  Speaker 1: la is Alan. Do you can hear in the studio
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Howard, so as we talk about, you know, sound
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  Speaker 1: or pictures that compliment our story, that help explain it,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll see sound of vigil. I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want any vigil. They're like why because it doesn't help.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't help solve the case. So, John Linley, can
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  Speaker 1: we move from the visual, which I appreciate. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: it as a crime victim what that means to the
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  Speaker 1: family to have a vigil and remember Shannon. But I
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  Speaker 1: want results, John Limley, you tell me this girl is
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  Speaker 1: dismembered and a freezer. Uh huh? What happened next? Well,
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  Speaker 1: before they even find her body in the freezer, police
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  Speaker 1: began checking jail's, prisons, hospitals, anywhere to see if they
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  Speaker 1: could find Shannon in any of those facilities. Why did
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  Speaker 1: you say that about her? Well, this girl doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a record. No, but they've run out of leads, and
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  Speaker 1: so they're looking any and everywhere just to see if
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  Speaker 1: something has happened along the way. Then a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months into the investigation, there's some shocking news coming out
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  Speaker 1: of Campbell, Ohio. This is just a ten minute drive
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  Speaker 1: from Youngstown. Word is that a couple living in Campbell
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  Speaker 1: have made a horrific discovery in their own house, in
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  Speaker 1: their basement, and they think a friend there's has something
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  Speaker 1: to do with it. Oh, well, don't stop there, go ahead. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the story goes back when Ken Eschenball
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  Speaker 1: says a friend introduced him to a man named Anthony Gonzalez. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Ken says he became friends with Anthony because Ken owns
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  Speaker 1: some audio equipment and Anthony was interested in recording rap music.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward to the middle of the July. This is
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  Speaker 1: when Anthony asks Ken for a favor Anthony tells Ken
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  Speaker 1: that the electricity has gone out in his home and
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  Speaker 1: he's concerned that some meat he was keeping in a
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  Speaker 1: freezer was in danger. A thoughting going bad, so when
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  Speaker 1: Anthony asked Ken if he could bring the freezer to
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  Speaker 1: his home in Campbell, Ken said sure, no problem. Anthony
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  Speaker 1: arrives at night with a friend, according to Ken, bringing
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  Speaker 1: the freezer through a backdoor and into the basement. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't until three days maybe, Ken says, after the freezer
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  Speaker 1: arrived in his house that Ken's wife notices that it's
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  Speaker 1: secured with a padlock. He says he doesn't think too
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  Speaker 1: much about it because Anthony could be a little unusual,
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  Speaker 1: a little odd at times. That freezer sat in the
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  Speaker 1: basement for a few weeks until one Saturday morning when
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  Speaker 1: Ken's wife planned to make some spaghetti and meatballs. She
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  Speaker 1: thought she would just borrow some hamburger from the freezer
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  Speaker 1: and then replace it later. No harm done. Ken's wife
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  Speaker 1: told him that she removed the three screws that secured
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  Speaker 1: the padlock. To the man, she must have really wanted
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  Speaker 1: spaghetti and meatballs to go into someone she doesn't know
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  Speaker 1: freezer and the hope she might find some Hamburger meeting
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  Speaker 1: in there. Don't screws the padlocks breaks and gets in there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that for one minute. Kathleen Murphy, she
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to know what was in the freezer. Eat
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  Speaker 1: in the freezer. She wanted to eat that spaghetti. They
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  Speaker 1: were going to make spaghetti that night. But she didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to runto the gross Kathleen, she didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: was in there. She didn't know if there was a
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  Speaker 1: ground bay freezing. But the reality is, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: why she went into the freezer. What matters is what
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  Speaker 1: she found, what she got in there. John Limley. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she begins rummaging through the freezer and comes upon a
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  Speaker 1: large garbage bag inside. This is when Ken's wife says
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  Speaker 1: she immediately got a bad feeling. She put everything back in,
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  Speaker 1: replaced the three screws, and called her husband. And when
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  Speaker 1: Kenn arrives at home, he opens the freezer and found
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  Speaker 1: that whatever was inside the bag was frozen solid. So
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  Speaker 1: he got out a knife. Well, is everybody trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell me nobody looked in the bag? You know? Joining
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  Speaker 1: me is Stephen Lampley, a detective extraordinaire. Stephen. Everybody better
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  Speaker 1: get their story straight and tell the truth. They can't see. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I want a spaghetti and meatballs. And I just thought
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  Speaker 1: maybe this freezer that's padlock in the basement, that belongs
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  Speaker 1: to somebody else might have some frozen meatballs in it.
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  Speaker 1: So I went and broke into it, unscrewed all the hinges,
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  Speaker 1: took off the padlock, and found a dead body. No,
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  Speaker 1: she has to tell the truth. I was curious, I
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  Speaker 1: had a bad feeling. I opened the freezer. It's in
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  Speaker 1: my basement. I can open whenever I want to in
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  Speaker 1: my basement because little lies like that. If it is
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  Speaker 1: a lie, maybe she just was on an insatiable quest
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  Speaker 1: for meatballs. But even a little lie can ruin a prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, Nancy, you're absolutely correct, and you know well
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  Speaker 1: more than the rest of us to about prosecuting murder cases.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that as well. Of course, that's my opinion.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think she was curious as
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  Speaker 1: to what was in the freezer, and that's when they
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  Speaker 1: made the discovery on the body parts. And of course
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  Speaker 1: it's my understanding that all of her body parts were
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  Speaker 1: in there. Okay, thank you for that last touch. Not
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  Speaker 1: all the body parts were in there. You know. To
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  Speaker 1: doctor Wendy Dickinson, what is it about human curiosity? Why
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  Speaker 1: not just admit I was curious about why they stored
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  Speaker 1: the freezer here and I opened the padlock. Why make
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  Speaker 1: up a story about me both well, I just I
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  Speaker 1: have to imagine that after she found the body in there,
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  Speaker 1: she's completely freaked out and afraid that she was going
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  Speaker 1: to be implicated in some way. But I think you're right,
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  Speaker 1: it's the core of it. It sounds like she's curious
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  Speaker 1: and I wanted to know what's in the POWD blocked
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  Speaker 1: fridge freezer. Why do you have a power block on
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  Speaker 1: your freezer? That's not normal? And I'll tell you another
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  Speaker 1: reason I'm worried. To Nimahadatti, former California prosecutor NeiMa you
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  Speaker 1: know this jury charge as well as I do. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure the jury it is there the sole province of
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  Speaker 1: a jury to determine credibility of a witness. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: are they telling the truth or not? Not the judge,
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  Speaker 1: not the prosecutor, not the defense. And there is a
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  Speaker 1: jury charge that the judge gives at the end of
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  Speaker 1: every case before the jury makes the deliberations, and it
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  Speaker 1: is if you disbelieve the witness in any part and
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  Speaker 1: some in part in whole, you're entitled to throw out
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  Speaker 1: all of their testimony from your deliberations. Now, think about it, Nima,
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  Speaker 1: follow me along with this for a moment. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: what you think. If that's true, and you have one
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  Speaker 1: nut back in the jury room and they decide this
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  Speaker 1: woman that opens the padlock is lying about why she
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  Speaker 1: went into the freezer, they could throw out all of
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  Speaker 1: her testimony. You know what, That leaves a perfect story
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  Speaker 1: for the defense that she did it, that she and
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  Speaker 1: her husband did it, and they're trying to pin it
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  Speaker 1: on somebody else. Because if you could throw out all
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  Speaker 1: of her testimony about discovering the body, then the state's
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  Speaker 1: got a problem. Yeah, this is pretty terrible for the
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  Speaker 1: prosecution when you have a witness that even a little
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  Speaker 1: bit a little white light could destroy the credibility and
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  Speaker 1: that would be the end of their entire testimony. And
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  Speaker 1: without this piece, it would make this case difficult for
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  Speaker 1: the prosecution. So bottom line, I believe the woman is
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  Speaker 1: completely innocent. I think she got curious and opened up
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  Speaker 1: the freezer, as I would too. Padlock freezer on my basement,
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  Speaker 1: no way, and she found the worst discovery of all,
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  Speaker 1: a dead body. So question, how did Shannon Graves get
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  Speaker 1: into the freezer? Not on her own because she's dismembered
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  Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. Youngstown City Prosecutor Dana Lance said,
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  Speaker 1: just after Graves was last seen five months ago, Layton
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  Speaker 1: moved in, drove graves car, used herself phone, and even
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  Speaker 1: cared for her dog. Then, on July twenty fourth, a
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  Speaker 1: witness told police Late and Novoa moved a Padlock freezer
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  Speaker 1: to a Devitt Avenue home and cammel. Five days later,
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  Speaker 1: the homeowner called police after finding human remains inside. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's certainly a love match. Artiro Novoa, who is Shannon's
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  Speaker 1: then boyfriend at the time she goes missing her live in,
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  Speaker 1: he's already slung up with another woman, John Limley, another
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  Speaker 1: woman who is driving Graves's car, using her cell phone,
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  Speaker 1: taking care of her dog. What right? And this name
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  Speaker 1: Arturo Novoa is one we haven't heard yet because that's
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  Speaker 1: not the name he was using when he was with
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  Speaker 1: his girlfriend. Also when he was with these friends that
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  Speaker 1: were keeping a friend a freezer. Yes, Artiro Novoa is
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  Speaker 1: the same guy. I think you said Anthony that wanted
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  Speaker 1: somebody else to quote store his freezer. So correct, Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Gonzalez and Artura Novoa one and the same. But his
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  Speaker 1: name is really our tour of Novola. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I always love And let me throw this to doctor
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Dickinson, Atlanta psychologist, founder of Grow Counseling. I love
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: reading an indictment to a jury because you know, when
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you start a felony case, the prosecution reads the indictment,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and I love reading that indictment out loud, especially when
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: there are a string of aliases behind the defendant's name.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: For instance, Jackie Howard aka also known as Jahoe, also
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: known as the Jack. Yeah, and you go on and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: on and on and on, and finally the jury's like,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have an alias, I don't have a quote
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: street name. Why does this person have so many names?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Having multiple names? It's never a sign of good things, Wendy, Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I mean when you look at somebody who has a
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: string of multiple names, you start to wonder what is
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it that they're trying to cover up? You know, we
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: look at behavior that's outside of the normal curve of behavior,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and like you said, most of us use one name.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: We're straightforward about who we are. That's our identity. When
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: somebody has these versions of themselves and they're trying to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: portray in different ways, it starts to raise questions about
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: what their real intentions are. Same thing, Aland when a
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: guy has multiple cell phones, Alan, I'm always suspicious Why
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I have more than one cell phone? Who do you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: want to call on one phone versus the other phone? Alan, Well,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: ones for business and once for family. M Okay, let
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: me go back to you, John Linley, Crime online dot
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Com investigator reporters. So we figured this much out. But
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: what I don't know? Who is Layton? I know Artiro
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Novoa aka Anthony? Who is Layton? That is our tour
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Novoah's new girlfriend Katrina Layton, or maybe she's not a
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: new girlfriend. Maybe she's been a girlfriend the whole time.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That's for investigators to find out. Both of them had
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: been booked into the County jail. Youngstown Police tell us
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that although Novoa denied knowing anything about a body inside
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a freezer, he had the keys to the padlock when
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: he was arrested. Okay, that's pretty damnage, do Doctor Michelle Dupree.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Now we really need you, doctor Dupree, medical examiner out
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of South Carolina, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide. Just
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the title alone makes me want to stay up at
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: night and read that, and sadly, I'm not kidding. Homicide
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Investigation Field Guide. Wow, okay, doctor Michelle Dupree. We know
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that this young girl, twenty eight years old, Shannon Graves,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is in the freezer. She's dismembered. How do you how
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: do you salvage a frozen body? And what does literally
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: NonStop freezing temperature due to human remains? But I think
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that's all very good questions, and there's several things we
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: have to consider. One is, we do have to defrost
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the body, but we have to do it in such
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: a way so that it doesn't occur rapidly so there's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: as little damage as possible to the skin and to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the tissue. Well, how do you do that? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you just told me something I've never thought of. I've
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: had plenty of cases where the body have been frozen,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: but you're telling me you have to unthought it in
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: a particular way so as to decrease the likelihood of damage.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that, well, so that if
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we need to do microscopic studies, and we always try
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to do microscopic studies in our autopsies so that we
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: can preserve as much tissue as possible without the frozen artifact.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So we just defrost it slowly. You mean you just
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: let the body sit there. You certainly don't warm it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: up in any way, do you. That's right, We just
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: let it most we sit there. Okay, so let me
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: understand this. The body parts are in garbage bags, John Limley, Yes, correct, Okay.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: What happens? Then the meatball aficionado finds the dead body
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and the padlocked freezer. Whoops, the I unscrewed the padlock
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and calls her husband. I still don't believe that without
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: knowing what was in the garbage bag, she called her husband.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I think she looked in there and she saw a body.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: But that's just me. But they better get that and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: nailed down before they go to trial. The husband comes home,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they confirm its body, and then what happens. This is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: when very quickly police discover the identity of our Toura
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Novoa aka Anthony Gonzalez and his girlfriend charged them. Now,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: as for this girlfriend, Katrina Layton. It's discovered that during
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: this time period she had since Shannon's disappearance, she had
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: essentially taken over Shannon's life, even taking care of her
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: dog and driving her car after her appearance. And one
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: important point, Katrina Layton was also the one who bought
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that freezer where the body was kept for who knows
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: how long. Okay, this is what I don't understand, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not to that point yet because I don't know
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: all the facts. But how does one person murder somebody,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: dismember the body and everybody else just goes along with it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go out to my partner in crime,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Alan Duke. Alan, you and I have covered so many cases.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: You were at SNN long before me. You were with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: me so many nights at HLN. We there was so
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: many cases where people will commit a crime, which is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: bad enough, but those other people around it in the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: mix that knew what had happened, that went a lot.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Here you've got this woman Layton, I guess, wearing her clothes,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: taking care of her dog, driving her car. I mean,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: she's got to know. Yeah, it's like in the Tera
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Grinstead case, the trial going on bo Duke's helped his
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: friend Ryan burned the body in a pecan roag. Why
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: would you do that? You didn't kill that person, Why
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: would you have anything to do with it? I don't. Again,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to shrink on that. But let
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: me get the rest of the fact. So Linley, they
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: identify that it is Shannon. No, no, they don't yet.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They identify that the freezer was brought over there by
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Artiro Novoa under the name Anthony, and then they pieced
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: together that the girlfriend Layton has been driving Shannon's car
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and taking care of her dog. Okay, then what happens, Well,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: they discovered that after Shannon was killed and locked away
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in that freezer, this girlfriend, Katrina Layton, she had blamed
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Grave's identity and lived her life, but she didn't really,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, she didn't go to the point of, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: changing her name and identification and such. Novoa and Leyton
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: allegedly moved inside of Shannon's home, used her credit cards,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: even caring for her dog. All the while the community
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is searching for this young woman. So basically, Katrina moved
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in with Arturo started living Shannon's life. She didn't hold
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: herself out to be Shannon. She just lived her life,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: using her phone, caring for a dog, apparently the two
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: just driving her car, wearing her clothes. I mean, but
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that is impersonating her. John Linley, Kathleen Murphy. That's gonna
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: look horrible if this ever goes to court, that she
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: just walked into somebody's home. How could she argues she
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: didn't know anything had happened to Shannon Graves when she's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: taking care of her dog, wearing her clothes, driving her car,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and using her cell phone with all of her contacts
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: in it. Oh, Nancy, She didn't say she was impersonating.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: She said she was just used her item, using her ID,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: using her home, taking care of her dog. But to her,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that's not her boyfriend, her apartment, her car, her driver's license,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: her credit cards, her dog, her cell phone. I mean,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: she's not. What am I missing? That is impersonal? That's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I come into your house and I'll start wearing your clothes,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: taking care of your children and having dinner with your husband,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: driving your car and calling people on your cell phone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say, I'm not impersonating you. Fine, have it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Your white Nemaha Dati former California prosecutor. She's in deep,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: deep trouble. Yeah, she is. This is pretty terrible, using
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: somebody's ID, using the car, everything that is impersonating somebody
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and seems like she's an accessory. There's no way she
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: can have known about any of this. She needs to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: find a really good defense attorney and separate herself and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: start to fight as soon as possible. Take a listen
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to Youngstown Lieutenant Doug bbof Nick and her friend A. W.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: K be into with you. Arrest made. Two individuals were
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: arrested and charged with abuse of a corpse, and then
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the other individual was also additionally charged with obstructing justice
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: in connection with the remains found in Campmell. We believe
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that we are investigating it because we believe that it
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: originated in the city of Youngstown and was taken the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: camel Are those two people are troa in Katrina Taylor.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That's correct, he's ald Us wearing Camelot Street house. It
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was on Devitt Avenue in camel What can you say
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: about the body those found? It appears to be a female. However,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: we weren't able to closely examine it. The body was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: taken to Cuyahoga County Corner's office where there's going to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be a forensic examination earlier this week. We'll be able
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to determine the hopefully the cause of death. The next
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: steps today in a murder case that has garnered national attention,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: two people accusing the murder of a woman and then
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: putting her body in a freezer, we're in court today.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: First News reporter Tyler Trill was there and has the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: latest from the courtroom. The couple young Sound police accused
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of hiding a missing woman's body inside a freezer pleaded
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: not guilty to all three of their charges inside a
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Mahoney County courtroom this morning. Arturo Novoa and Katrina Layton
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: are charged with aggravated murder, tampering with evidence, and abuse
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: of a corpse after a police discovered the body of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Shannon Graves in a freezer and a camel home in July.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: They've both been in Mahoney County jail ever since. Grays
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: is the ex girlfriend of Novoah. The two lived together
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in a home in Youngstown. Prosecutors say Katrina Layton then
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: assumed Shannon Grave's life after she had died. Bond was
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: set at a million dollars for both Novoah and Layton
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: back in July. That bond continues. Out to John Linley,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, I noticed that these
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: two are charged now with aggravated murderer of this beautiful
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: young girl, Shannon Grays. But two other people are charged
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: with obstructing justice. So bottom line, this Ohio man thirty
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: one years old, Orchia Novoa, hid his girlfriend's body in
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: a freezer while living with another woman, also in her thirties,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: who assumed Shannon Graves identity. It's Artira Novoa and Katrina
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Leyton arrested by Youngstown police. I learned about this story
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: conveniently at a restaurant slash Bar. I was not drinking
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: across the street from the courthouse in Youngstown, and what
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I heard left me shocked and upset, not just about
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the murder, but the fact that people would stand by
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and be part of this scheme. To John Limley, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: noticed that two people are charged, Novoah and Leyton with
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Shannon's murder, But who are the other two people that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: are charged with obstruction? The names in the indictment Andrew
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Herman and Michelle Enfield. These two were charged on engaging
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: in a pattern of corrupt activity, tampering with evidence twelve
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: counts there, and abuse of a corpse. In short, they
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: assisted Novoa with getting a rid hiding the body of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Shannon Graves. I just want to make sure, John Linley,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of one thing. The two names you read out, they're
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: not the meatball lover right, they're not the people that
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: claim they find the body and they're shocked and they okay,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: so they're in the clear at they're the good guys
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in this scenario. Who are these two other people? How
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: could they? You know? I don't get it. Nimahadatti, former
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: California prosecutor. I've seen it before where other people just
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: stand by and let something horrible happen and help in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the cover up and do nothing. Yeah, this is pretty terrible.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: It seems like they actually helped conceal It seems like
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: with that obstruction of justice charge, they helped conceal the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: crime as well. And it's just disgusting. And the apartment
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that they lived in was actually Shannon Graves's apartment. Artiro Novoa,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the boyfriends and then Layton basically assume her life, all
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: her belongings. They take over her life. These two have
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: now landed in a court of law. Take a listen
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to this the next steps today in a murder case
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that has garnered national attention, two people accusing the murder
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: of a woman and then putting her body in a freezer.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: We're in court today. First News reporter Tyler Trill was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: there and has the latest from the courtroom. The couple
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: young Sound police accused of hiding a missing woman's body
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: inside a freezer pleaded not guilty to all three of
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: their charges inside a Mahoney County courtroom this morning. Artiro
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Novoa and Katrina Layton are charged with aggravated murder, tampering
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: with evidence, and abuse of a corpse after a police
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: discovered the body of Shannon Graves in a freezer and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a camel home in July. They've both been in Mahoney
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: County jail ever since. Graves is the ex girlfriend of Novoah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Graves family reported her missing back in February. The two
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: lived together in a home in Youngstown. Prosecutors said Katrina
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Layton then assumed Shannon Grave's life after she had died.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Bond was set at a million dollars for both Novoa
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and Layton back in July that bond continues. Law enforcement
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: also searched the couple's home. Those that were charged with
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: obstructing and helping hide the body, and they say, quote,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the measures this group allegedly took to cover up the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: gruesome homicide are incomprehensible. That's from the age might Dwing.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: These three defendants are accused of engaging in a pattern
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of corrupt activity and attempt to mislead authorities and conceal
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the atrocious crime. Wow, how long they got away with
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: her body being dismembered and frozen and a freezer sitting
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in somebody else's basement is just amazing to me. To
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Detective Stephen Lampley, how do you get away with something
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: for that long glance? It depends on the situation. You
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: look at Jeffrey Dahmer. Friends, of course, this is no way,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this is not a serial killing that Jeffrey Dahmer got
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: away with this forever. I mean, it seemed like it
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: was an eternity that he was killing and giving away
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: with it, and d was using a preaser himself. It
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: just depends on the circumstance that it can be done
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and has been done and may be done again. I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: also learning that the missing woman's body, of course, discovered
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in a freezer, was not complete. Her entire body has
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: still not been found. I've also learned she was only
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: identified through fingerprints in DNA. To medical examiner and author
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: doctor Michelle Dupree, what does that tell you they had
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to identify her through through fingerprints in DNA. Well, that
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: tells me basically that the body was in a condition
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: that it was unidentifiable by any other means, And identifying
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a diseased person through fingerprints is relatively easy as fond
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: as we have tissue again that we can use to
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: get a fingerprint from and something to match it too. Well,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: in my mind, Nemaha, Daddy, I don't know if you're
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: thinking like me, but what it tells me is she
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a head. They cannot identify her, They cannot
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: be in facial recognition. They had to use fingerprints in DNA.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: That's what it tells me. Nema. I don't know, but
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, they couldn't identify her through gental records, They
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: could not identify her through facial recognition. They had to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: use her fingerprints. Nema. Yeah, this points to me this
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: was all premeditated. They thought about this. This was done
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: in a very articulate and disgusting matter and was well
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: thought out. It's terrible, but Nan she may not have
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: had a head, but she also could have just been
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: too decomposed to have visual recognition. And unless we have
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: something to compare general records too, and we have an
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: idea who that person is, there's no judge base in
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the sky for everybody who general records, So fingerprints are
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: an excellent way to do that. You know, what does
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that do to a family, doctor Wendy Dickinson, that you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't have your child's whole body to bury. Potentially her
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: head or some other part of her body is missing. Well,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously a trauma on top of a trauma.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I mean the family has already been through so much
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: with her being missing and not knowing what's happening and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: finding out all of these details, but then not to
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: be able to have the closure of being able to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: bury her and see her for one last time. It's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: extremely difficult on their family on their grieving process and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: really can lead to some pretty complex ramifications for the grieving.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: To John Lonely, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter, where
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: does the case stand now. Well, before I get to that,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to point out because we've talked about where
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: these extra body parts that were missing have gone. This
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: indictment shows that they disposed of graves body by both
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: chopping it up the parts that they found in the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: freezer and dissolving part of it in acid before sticking
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it in the freezer. Prosecutors alleged that these people helped
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: burn graves possessions, used her phone and cart, and earlier
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: this month, one of them, i Enfeld, even threatened someone
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: who dared to ask her questions about Shannon and her disappearance.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So at this point, first of all, Katrina Layton reached
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a plea deal. She was able to avoid sentencing by
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: simply agreeing to testify against her boyfriend. Now the other two.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: The trial date at this point is set for June third,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and this is when Artura Novoa and his co defendants
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Andrew Hermann and his wife Michelle Ienfeld, they will all
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: go to trial on murder and disposal of Grave's body.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: At this hour, Artura Novoa heading to trial for murderer
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and abuse of a corpse. But what I will never
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: understand is why other people willingly go along with evil,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: and stand by and let it happen, and do nothing.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfals. Nancy Grace crimes Toory, signing
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,