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Mega Edition: Courtney Wild And The 2017 Deposition (Part 7-10) (6/20/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up where
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we left off with according you wild deposition, Klohlberger, have
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you ever referred to Jeffrey Epstein as a fucking Jew? Answer?
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I may have question when did you do that? Ma'am?
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When did you refer to mister Epstein as a fucking Jew? Answer?
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I don't know. In my past I may have said that.
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Question how many times have you referred to mister Epstein
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as a fucking Jew? Answer? I don't remember, question more
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than once? Answer? Yes, question that was hateful? Answer, yes,
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it was. Question that was anti semitic. Answer yes. Question
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how many people have you called? How many have you
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said to strike that? Have you told more than one
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person that mister Epstein was a fucking Jew? Answer? Yes? Possibly.
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Question and as you sit here today, you don't know
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who you made that anti semitic remark to answer, I
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can I remember who I said that to. Question When
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was the first time you met mister Edwards. Answer let's see,
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it's been probably. I can't remember how long it's been
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since I met you. It's been a while. Question do
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you know how you met mister Edwards. Answer yes through
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Jay Howell. Question Jay Howel's a lawyer? Answer yes. Question
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would that have been back in two thousand and seven
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or two thousand and eight? Perhaps? Answer that sounds about right? Yeah.
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Question Okay, do you know Paul Cassel? Answer yes? Question Okay,
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have you met Paul Cassel? Answer yes? Question How many
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times have you met Paul Cassell? Answer maybe three times?
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Question okay, once when you were brought over in custody
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for the mediation in the CVR case. Answer yes, question,
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and you met some other times? Answer yes, question to
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other times? Answer yes. Question Okay, you know your plaintiff
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in the CVR case? Right answer yes. Question okay, did
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you sign any kind of agreement letter on that case? Yes? Answer,
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I don't understand what that means? Question Sure? When you
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suit Epstein for money, you signed a contract? Right answer?
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Right question? And is set forth the terms for which
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mister Edwards was going to represent you? Right answer? Right question?
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Did you sign one of those on the CVR A case?
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Also answer I don't believe so. No question. Okay are
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you funding the cv R case in any way? Answer
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no question? Okay, can I see the document? Please? How
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old were you when you first met mister Epstein. Answer
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I was fourteen. Question do you remember telling the FBI
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that we were close to sixteen when you met mister Epstein? Answer?
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I don't remember saying that question? Would A refresh your memory?
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To look at the exhibit that, mister Scrolla as marked
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as exhibit one, and let me direct you to the
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second full paragraph. SCROLLA, may I see it first? Please?
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And your question is does this paragraph refresh miss Wild's
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recollect that she told the FBI that she was sixteen? Goldberger?
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Very good? Correct? SCROLLA. Do you want to read that
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paragraph again? Goldberger? Sure? Scrola. Whether that's the question that
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you want to ask since it doesn't say anything like that.
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In fact, it says she was fifteen, mister Goldberger, who
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was close to turning sixteen? Did you tell the FBI? Scarrolla? Well,
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is there a difference between being fifteen and sixteen? Goldberger?
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Not really? Not in my mind? Scrolla okay, Goldberger, okay,
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SCROLLA and not mister Epstein's either, I guess Goldberger okay,
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Move to strike. Question did you tell the FBI that
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you were close to sixteen when you first met mister Epstein?
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Answer I can't really remember me ever, saying I was
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sixteen years old. Question Okay, do you remember telling mister
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Epstein when you first met him that you were eighteen? Answer?
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No question, Okay, with a refresher memory, to look at
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the memorandum of interview concerning the interview you did with
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the FBI in August of two thousand and seven, and
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what you told the agent about what you told mister
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Epstein is your age? SCROLLA. Excuse me, I'm going to
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object to the form of the question. It assumes that
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there are dactions in that document, which obviously you relate
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to multiple individuals, identify miss Wilde as a particular speaker. Goldberger. Okay.
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Having said that, would you look at that and see
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if it refreshes your recollection as to whether you told
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mister Epstein when you first met him that you were
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sixteen years old? SCROLLA the same second paragraph, Goldberger, same
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second paragraph, thank you, the last line of the second paragraph,
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SCROLLA the last line Goldberger. Uh huh, Courtney, No, I
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don't remember saying that, mister Goldberger. Okay, did you, in
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fact tell mister Epstein that you were eighteen when you
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first met him? Answer no question. Did you tell him
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how old you were. Answer. I don't believe I ever
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told him how old I was. No, Goldberger, Okay, here
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you go. I'm going to go into some additional questions
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about the CVRA. I recognize that you're going to instruct
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the witness not to answer the questions, and so we
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have some ground rules for this is the time. The
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objections that it's irrelevant and she does not have the
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ability to console with her lawyer, or do you want
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me to ask the questions? First? SCROLLA. No, that's not
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an accurate statement. Goldberger. Will give me your accurate assessment.
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Then SCROLLA, yeah, the questions are irrelevant, immaterial, not reasonably
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calculated to lead to the discovery of relevant and material information. Goldberger, Okay, SCROLLA.
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In addition to that, the witness was not noticed as
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being deposed in a separate CVR action, her counsel with
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regard to the separate CVRA action were not noticed. Therefore,
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her counsel have not had the opportunity to console with
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her regarding giving testimony in the separate CVRA action. So
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those are the objections that were previously raised, In addition
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to others stated as to the specific question questions, they
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are the objections that I will incorporate simply by saying
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same objection SAM instruction for purposes of not burdening the
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record with repetition of the same objection and SAM instruction.
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Mister Goldberger, have you now stated all of the objections
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you want to stay concerning any objections or questions I'm
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going to have concerning the CVRA subject to a specific question? Scrolla.
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I've stated all of the objections that I wish to
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incorporate in abbreviated objections and instruction. Goldburger, okay. What were
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your goals as a plaintiff in filing the CVRA case?
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SCROLLA objection? Goldberger, okay? Was one of your goals to
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invalidate the non prosecution agreement? SCROLLA objection? Edwards, can we
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just take one second? Goldberger? Yeah, you want to talk
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to her? That's fine. They paused. Now they're back and
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Goldberger is asking questions again. Coldberger, are you good? Scrolla? Yeah? Goldberger, okay.
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Have you ever discussed with TAITA. Miller the fling of
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the CVRA? SCROLLA same objection, Goldberger, have you ever discussed
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with any non lawyer or someone working for a lawyer
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the reasons for filing the CVRA case. SCROLLA objection, Goldberger,
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do you realize that if you prevail on the CVRA
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case and the non prosecution agreement is ruled void, any
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civil settlement that relied on the civil victims rights that
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case could be vacated? Scrolla same objection. Sam. Instruction also
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calls for a legal conclusion Goldberger, Okay, scrolla based upon
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an improper hypothesis? Goldberger, are you seeking an apology from
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the government for the filing of the CVR SCROLLA same objection,
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Sam instruction, Goldberger, is that important to you, ma'am? SCROLLA objection, Goldberger?
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Are you attempting to punish Jeffrey Epstein by causing the
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loss of the non prosecution agreement? Goldberger? Sam objection Courney Wilde,
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what was the question? Gold Are you attempting to punish
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Jeffrey Epstein by causing the non prosecution agreement to be
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set aside? Answer? I just feel like justice should be
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served and he should be put in jail for the
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crimes that he committed. Question Okay, do you blame him
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for being in jail right now? Ma'am? Answer? No, I've
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made my own choices, but I do believe that a
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lot of the trauma that I have is due to
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what happened to me when I was a young girl,
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because of Jeffrey. Question I want to talk to you
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a little bit about Tata Miller. When did you first
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meet her? Answer? When I was like thirteen or fourteen
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years old? Question? And was Tita Miller younger or older
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than you? Answer? Younger? Question how much younger? Answer she's
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like a year younger than me. Question okay, when did
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you meet her? Though? Answer? I met her through a friend?
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Question did you meet her at a party? Perhaps? Answer
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I can't remember exactly. I know I met her through
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a friend though? Question uh huh? Okay, what friend was that? Answer?
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I think a boy that I was dating named Jesse.
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Answer but we were just friends at first. But I
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think that's how maybe I can't remember. I can't remember.
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Question do you know a boy named Bobby? Answer? Uh huh.
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Question okay, do you know where that party was? Answer? No,
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I wouldn't remember. Question okay, would you consider Tatum Miller
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to be your good friend when you first met her? Answer? Yeah?
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Question okay, and does she continue to be your good friend? Answer?
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We're still friends? Question okay? Answer I haven't talked to
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her in a while, though, Answer okay, was there a
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time where you lived? Actually, Tatum Miller's father let you
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live at his house? Answer yes, Question okay when was that?
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Answer when I was fourteen? Fifteen? For two years? Answer okay.
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Did you ever have sex with Tata Miller? Answer no,
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not when I was a young girl. I don't think
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that we did. Question okay, did you ever have oral
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sex with Tata Miller prior to being eighteen? Answer yes?
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Question okay, when did that take place? Answer? I can't remember.
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Question was it at a party or was it in private? Answer?
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I can't remember. Question okay, but do you remember having
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oral sex with her? Answer I know that we have. Yes.
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Do you know how many times that you've had oral
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sex with Tata Miller? Answer no? Question okay. Is Tata
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Miller the one who recruited you to go to Jeffrey
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Epstein's home? Answer yes. Question okay, did you go to
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mister Epstein's house together the first time? Answer yeah? Question okay,
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At other times that you may have been at mister
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Epstein's house, did you see Tata Miller there? Answer? If
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I didn't go with her, sometimes I'd go by myself.
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Sometimes I'd bring girls. I never went there, and Tatum
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was there. Question okay, did you ever talk to her
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about mister Epstein? Answer yes. Question okay, what discussions did
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you have concerning mister Epstein? Answer? I can't remember the
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discussions now what we talked about. Question do you know
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if miss Miller had ever claimed whether mister Epstein was
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physically violent to her? Answer? I don't believe if she's
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ever said that to me. Question okay, did miss Miller
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tell you in going to Goldberger you can go ahead edwards?
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I feel like that canteen would be useful right now
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the witness, Yeah, Goldberger go off the record for a second.
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They go off, then their back back on. I saw
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it coming. Question did miss Miller tell you that, in
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going to mister Epstein's house, your choice to get naked
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was in fact a choice that you could make? Answer? Yeah,
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she said that he would be like if I took
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off all my clothes, but I didn't have to. I
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could keep my panties on if I wanted to. Question okay,
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did miss Miller tell you to lie about your age
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when going to mister Epstein's house? No question? Now, did
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miss Miller tell you that is part of the massage,
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mister Epstein would ejaculate into his own hand. Answer, Yeah,
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she did tell me that. Question Uh huh. And did
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she tell you that prior to your going there? Answer?
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She really didn't. I can't remember if she said that
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to me or not. For some reason, I want to
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say she didn't, but it's been so long, I don't know. Question.
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So your recollection is at some point Miss Miller told
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you that mister Epstein would ejaculate into his hand. Yes,
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I think so. Question, but you don't remember when she
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told you this? Answer right? Question Okay? Had he ever
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ejaculated into his hand while you were massaging him prior
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to miss Miller telling you that he being mister Epstein?
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I'm sorry. Answer, I mean the first time I went
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ever met him, that's what he did. He ejaculated into
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his own hand. After the first time, we didn't really
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have to talk about it because that's something that did happen. Question,
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So you have a recollection of miss Miller having told
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you that mister Epstein would ejaculate into his hand during
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a massage. Answer I can't remember if she told me
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or not. Question Okay, Courtney do y'all want to take
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a break, mister Scola, sure if you'd like to, Courtney, yeah,
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scrolla yes, all right, folks. So we're going to take
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a break as well, and in the next episode dealing
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with the topic, we're going to pick up where we
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left off. All of the information that goes with this
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episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
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this episode, we're going to pick up where we left
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off with the Courtney Wild deposition. Question. All right, so
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you testified, I believe and correct me if I'm wrong
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that you had some sort of discussion with Tata Miller
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about Jeffrey Epstein ejaculating into his hand while getting a massage.
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Correct answer right question. And you don't recall when you
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were told that would occur? Answer right question? Okay, But
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did you also testify that the first time you gave
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a massage to mister Epstein he ejaculated into his hand.
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Answer yes, question, so being advised that that might happen
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occurred prior to your first visit with mister Epstein. Answer
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I can't remember. I mean I guess so question Okay,
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do you know whether Tatum Miller works as a prostitute. Answer,
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I don't know. I haven't talked to her in a
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couple of years. Question okay, do you know whether she
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was working as a prostitute after she last saw Jeffrey Epstein?
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Answer I don't know. Question okay, did you go with
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Tatum to New York on a trip paid by some men?
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Answer yes? Question okay, and during that trip that you
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went to New York with some men, did Tatum leave
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to go on some prostitution dates? Answer I'm not sure
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where she went when she left? Question but she left?
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Answer yeah. Question okay, did you ever visit Tatum at
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Fantasies where she worked? Answer? I can't. I don't think so.
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Question okay, do you know what Fantasies is? Answer? Uh huh.
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Question okay, Answer well, I know that she worked to
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some place like that, but I can't remember the name
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of it. Question what do you mean by that? What
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do you mean by some place like that? What is that?
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Answer like a prostitution house or whatever. I don't know
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what you'd call it. Question Okay, did she ever use
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the term jackshack? Answer? Yeah? Question what's a jackshack? Answer
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like a prostitution house. Question okay, and you knew that
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Tatum worked at a jackshack? Answer yeah. Question okay, did
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you ever see any website offering Tato Miller's services? Answer no,
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I don't think so. Question was your mother a drug addict?
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Is your mother a drug addict? Also answer She's been
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clean for six years, but when I was young, she
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was addicted to drugs. Question okay, and she was addicted
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to drugs prior to your meeting Jeffrey Epstein. Answer yes,
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mister Goldberger. How many people did you take to Jeffrey
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Epstein's home to work as a massage to give massages
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to mister Epstein? Answer like twenty or thirty girls? Question okay?
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And did you receive money for bringing people to mister
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Epstein's home? Answer yes. Question do you know who Didi is?
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Uh huh? Okay. Did you keep a list or a
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journal of people that you took to mister Epstein's home?
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Answer no. Question No you didn't do that, No you
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did not. Answer I did not. Question did you take
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some women who were age meaning over the age of
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eighteen to mister Epstein's home four massages? Answer no, I
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always took people that were underage? Question? Okay, do you
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ever remember answering that question? Differently, whether you brought girls
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who were over the age of eighteen to mister Epstein's home. Answer? Actually,
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now that I think about it, there was this girl
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named Amy that was over age that went to him,
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But I don't remember bringing anybody else besides her. Question
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do you remember giving a deposition on A six twenty
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ten in this case or in the related case? Answer? Yeah, question,
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and you were sworn to tell the truth in that deposition?
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Answer right? Question? And were you telling the truth? Answer yes? Question?
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And did you have your lawyer Brad Edwards there with
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you during that deposition? Answer yes. Question. Do you remember
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giving an answer to this question? Well, you know you
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took MD because she was twenty three. Page one thirty one, Well,
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you know, Scrolla interjects, Maybe have a copy of that deposition? Goldberger, Yeah,
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do you have an extra copy? Page one thirty one? Brewer,
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I do, page one thirty one. Scrolla, Okay, thank you.
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Back to Goldberger. Ask him questions, Okay, well you took
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Do you remember being asked this question? Well, you know
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you took MD because she was twenty three. Your answer,
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I probably took about three girls of age. Your question
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you mean that they were eighteen or over and your
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answer correct? Okay, so does that or do you remember
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having he's cut off by Courtney. Answer yeah, I know
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I took the one girl, Amy, but there's possibly a
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couple more. I know that everybody else that I took
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was under age. Question right, and then you went on
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to say that you took twenty to thirty girls allegedly
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who are under eighteen? Two mister Epstein's house scrolla, No,
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she didn't not say allegedly. The question is how many
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girls do you believe that you took under eighteen? Answer
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at least at least twenty or thirty Koldberger question and
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every one of those girls that you took to mister
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Epstein's home, whether there were of age or under age,
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you receive money for bringing them there? Did you not? Answer? Yes?
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Question okay, did you ever break into mister Epstein's home
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to burglize his home? Answer? No, I did go there
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one time, and I did never burglize his home though.
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Question well, did you enter his home without his permission? Answer? Yes,
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so I guess that would be burglarizing it. I guess
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you could say, question okay, answer, yes, I did that
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one time. Question what did you do? Answer? I went
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there without his permission? Question and you entered his home?
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Answer yes? Question okay, did you have someone with you
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when you did that? Answer? Yeah, I had somebody who
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drove me there. Question who was that? Answer? I can't
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remember who it was? Now? Did mister Epstein ever call
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you on the telephone? Answer yes? Question okay, was there
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ever any discussion of sexual conduct during the phone calls? Answer?
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What do you mean by that? Question? Yeah? Did you
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talk about sex when he called you? Answer? No? He
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just always asked me if I had anybody to bring him.
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Question okay, did you ever call mister Epstein's home and
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speak to either mister Epstein or someone who worked for
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mister Epstein and ask for permission to come over and
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give a massage? Answer? Yes, Question okay, how many times
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did you do that? Answer? I can't remember how many times?
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Question did you ever ask to introduce another girl to
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mister Epstein? Answer? Yeah, he would ask me if I
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met a girl that what wanted to come to him,
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to call and let them know his secretary or him
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or whoever answered the phone. Normally it was his secretary
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if I called. Question Any calls you made then would
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be calls to set up appointments right answer, right question.
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No discussion about sex? Answer right question. During any of
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those phone calls, did mister Epstein say anything that he
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was attempting to persuade or induce you or entice you
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to engage in sex? Answer no question. Okay, did you
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ever negotiate over the phone prices or anything like that?
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Answer no question. Did you ever email with mister Epstein
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in any way? Answer no question. Did you ever have
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any kind of Internet conversation with mister Epstein? Answer no question.
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Did you ever have any text conversation with mister Epstein?
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Answer no question. Did mister Epstein ever have any email
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or Internet conversations with you about bringing another person to
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his own answer no question. To give a massage I'm
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talking about? Answer right question. Did anyone either employed by
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mister Epstein or associated with mister Epstein ever email you?
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Answer no question. Did you ever travel with mister Epstein?
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Answer no question. Did mister Epstein use his own name
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when he spoke to you? Answer yeah, Jeffrey. Question didn't
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use a name like Taylor or anything like that you
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knew you were going to his house to make money,
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is that correct? Answer yes question. And you were acting
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as a prostitute when you went there? Answer yes, question. Okay,
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no one forced you to go. It was your choice
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to go, correct. Yo. I have to interject, she was
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fourteen when she was going there. She can't be a prostitute.
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And this is the whole entire basis for the cover story.
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That's why he gave the money. That's why when the
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girls brought other girls, he paid them so that later
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on down the road if he got nailed, he can
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use it as an excuse. Oh, it was. They were
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all part of it too. That's why this story is
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what it is because the legacy media and people that
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were covering it at the time covered it as prostitution,
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when in fact it's not prostitution, it's child abuse. Question.
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You had a choice to say no if you wanted
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to say no. Answer yes question. Was there ever any
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physical force that was used by anyone at mister Epstein's
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home to course you or force you to engage in
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any act? Answer no question. Did mister Epstein ever threaten
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to use physical force against you? Answer no question. Did
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mister Epstein ever use physical violence against you. Answer no question.
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Did mister Epstein ever raise his voice to you? Answer never,
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like face to face. A couple of times. There was
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times I was supposed to bring a girl and the
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girl canceled or the girl ended up not wanting to come,
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or something like that. So there were a couple of
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times on the phone where he yelled at me, like
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just frustrated about me not bringing the girl. Question okay,
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other than that any other yelling answer no question. When
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you were brought there first? You were brought there the
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first time by Tatum? Correct answer? Uh huh question Tatum.
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Tatum Miller told you that it was your choice whether
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to take off your clothes or not. Answer Yeah, she
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said that he wanted to take off my clothes, but
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I didn't have to get completely Nate. I could keep
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my panties on if I wanted to. Question Okay, if
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my math is correct, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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Mister Edwards has represented you for ten years now? Is
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that correct? Answer? Yes? Question Okay, is there any time
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the last ten years that mister Edwards has not represented you?
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Answer no question, Okay, did you fire him at any time?
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Answer no question? Okay, did you ever get Did he
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ever get you a lawyer on this criminal case that
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has you in prison? Right now? Answer no? Did he
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ever get you a lawyer at any other time? Answer no?
23:35
Question Okay, you knew at some point that he, mister
23:39
Edwards went to work for Rothstein Adler firm. Answer yes,
23:43
question okay, when did you learn that man? Answer one time.
23:47
I went to the law firm to meet him. I
23:49
can't even remember what it was for. And I know
23:52
that he just moved different law firms. But question okay,
23:55
and I'm talking about the law firm Rothstein, Rosenfeldt and Adler.
23:59
Right answer yeah, question, we're talking about the same firm.
24:03
Answer right. Question. And you went to that law firm
24:06
to meet mister Edwards? Answer yeah. Question okay, And you
24:10
don't know when that was answer no question. Okay. Who
24:13
did you meet with when you went to the law firm? Answer?
24:16
I just met Brad. Question Brad Edwards. Answer Brad Edwards.
24:20
Question did you meet any of the other people that
24:22
worked there? Answer no, I can't remember meeting anybody else.
24:26
Question did you meet any investigator? No question, mister Fiston
24:30
answer no question. Did you meet Ken Jens who had
24:35
formerly been the Sheriff of Broward County. Answer no question.
24:38
Did you meet any other lawyer at the Edwards at
24:41
the Rostein office? Answer no question. Did you meet any
24:45
of mister edwards support staff? Answer no question. So you
24:50
went there and you walked in the door, and you
24:52
just met mister Edwards and you didn't meet anybody else.
24:55
Question I mean, if I walk past other people there,
24:58
they could have been working there. That's a possibility. But
25:00
I wasn't introduced to anybody or didn't have a conversation
25:03
with anybody else. Question Okay, how long were you there
25:07
when you went there? Answer? I can't remember how long
25:10
I was there? Maybe an hour? Question Okay, did you
25:13
learn at some point that mister Epstein, I'm sorry that
25:15
mister Edwards was sued by mister Epstein as being part
25:19
of the Rostein firm. Scarola, excuse me, Goldberger without Scrola,
25:25
if any knowledge you have Goldberger yeah, Scrolla continues with
25:29
regard to the lawsuit by mister Epstein against Brad Edwards,
25:32
is information that Brad Edwards communicated to you during the
25:36
course of your attorney client relationship with Brad. You should
25:39
not respond to that question if you know anything at
25:42
all about that lawsuit from the source other than communication
25:45
with Brad than by all means you are entitled to
25:48
and obliged to answer that question the witness. Okay, Coldberger,
25:53
that's correct. That's correct, Courtney. Yeah, so I don't want
25:57
to answer it, I guess all right. So what you're
26:01
saying is that anything you learned, you would have learned
26:03
from mister Edwards and you didn't learn from anybody else.
26:06
Answer right, Okay, folks, We're gonna wrap up right here,
26:09
and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
26:11
gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
26:14
information that goes with this episode can be found in
26:17
the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another
26:20
episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going
26:24
to pick up where we left off with the Corney
26:26
Wild deposition. Question Okay, did you read anything about the
26:30
Rothstein Ponzi scheme? Answer? Yeah, I think I seen it
26:33
on the news when it first happened, when I was
26:36
in West Palm Beach. Question Okay, and when you saw
26:39
it on the news, did you realize that mister Edwards
26:41
was working for that law firm? Answer? Yeah, I think
26:45
I actually called him. Question, don't tell me what he
26:48
told you? Answer okay. Question did you discuss it that
26:52
with anybody else? Answer? No? Question okay, did it cause
26:56
you to doubt his professional competence in any way? And sure?
27:00
No question okay. Did you talk to Tata Miller or
27:03
Seana Rivera about the Rothstein Ponzi scheme? Answer? I can't remember.
27:08
Question okay, do you know whether either one of those
27:10
two women terminated their relationship with mister Edwards as a
27:14
result of the Rothstein Ponzi scheme? Answer? I don't think so. Question.
27:19
While your estate case was pending in state court, were
27:22
you seeking damages from mister Epstein? Did you know that
27:25
mister Edwards also had asked to prepare a federal lawsuit?
27:29
I'm not talking about the CVRI case, but a separate
27:32
federal lawsuit seeking damages for you against mister Epstein. Edwards
27:37
object as the attorney client privilege to the extent that
27:40
she knows that information only from conversations that she had
27:43
with me Goldberger. Sure. Question, So, other than conversations you
27:48
had with Edwards or one of the other lawyers working
27:51
at Rothstein Adler firm, did you know that mister Edwards
27:54
had asked to be prepared a federal lawsuit that was
27:57
the same lawsuit that was pending against mister v Epstein
28:00
in the state court, essentially the same claim. Answer no question. Okay,
28:05
do you know that he had asked to support staff
28:08
to file or to prepare the same lawsuit in federal
28:11
court that had been prepared on behalf of Tata Miller
28:14
scrolla same instruction? That is, you should not answer that
28:17
question if the source of any information, if any, was
28:20
Brad Edwards. If you obtain that information from some other source,
28:25
and you have that information in response to the question,
28:27
you can answer it. Witness Okay, So I guess I
28:32
shouldn't answer it then, Goldberger, Okay, that's fine. Has anyone
28:35
shared any emails with you concerning instruction being given to
28:39
the file or to prepare a federal lawsuit for filing?
28:42
Answer no question. And I'm asking you specifically the time
28:46
period just before the Rostein form fell apart and mister
28:50
Rothstein was indicted. Answer no, Goldberger, Okay, can we just
28:54
have a moment off the record for a second. Back
28:57
on question I was asking you about whether you knew
29:01
anything about this federal lawsuit that may or may not
29:04
been prepared. Did you ever see a federal lawsuit other
29:08
than the CVR A case. I'm not talking about that answer,
29:11
no question. Okay. Did you ever authorize the preparation of
29:15
a separate federal lawsuit seeking damages from mister Epstein in
29:19
addition to the state court case? Edwards? I object attorney
29:23
client privilege, Goldberger, Let me just finish the question. Let
29:27
me finish the question. Okay, Edwards, you're talking about authorized
29:32
to me? This is he gets cut off by Goldberger. Yeah,
29:35
let me just finish the question. Edwards, communication with attorney again,
29:40
cut off by Goldberger. Let me just finish the question.
29:43
Then I get it. Okay, Edwards, Okay, Goldberger. Did you
29:46
ever authorize the filing of a federal lawsuit seeking damages
29:49
against mister Epstein that was similar or the same as
29:53
a state case that mister Edwards had filed on your
29:55
behalf for damages against mister Epstein. Edward's okay. Before you
30:00
would answer, if this is communication between me and you,
30:04
whether you to me or me to you, related to
30:06
a legal decision that we were making at the time,
30:09
that I'm instructing you not to answer because that could
30:12
be invasion of the attorney client privilege. Goldberger, Okay, So
30:16
with that instruction from your lawyer, do you want to
30:18
answer the question or not? Courtney wild No, Goldberger, Okay,
30:24
that's all the questions I have now moving on to
30:27
cross examination. Mister Scarola, Miss Wilde, did you sue Jeffrey
30:31
Epstein for having repeatedly sexually molested you because you actually
30:34
were repeatedly sexually molested by Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes, mister
30:39
Goldberger object to the form, Scarola. Was there any other
30:43
reason than the fact that Jeffrey Epstein had a repeatedly
30:46
select excuse me, repeatedly sexually molested you that you were
30:50
suing mister Epstein? Goldberger objected the form. Answer no, Scarola,
30:56
whether it was age fourteen, fifteen, or sixteen. Is there
30:59
any doubt that Jeffrey Epstein began molesting you years before
31:02
you turned the age of eighteen? Goldberger object the form Courtney,
31:07
There's no doubt. Yeah, he started molesting me when I
31:09
was fourteen, Scarrola. And did he continue to molest you
31:13
for years after those molestations began? Goldberger object to the
31:17
form Courtney, Yes, scrolla question. You said that there was
31:22
approximately twenty to thirty girls that you took to Jeffrey
31:26
Epstein's home. Right answer right question. Why did you bring
31:30
those girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home? Answer? I guess to
31:33
make money because he told me you would pay me
31:35
two hundred dollars for me and two hundred dollars for
31:38
every girl that I brought. Question and you were in
31:41
fact paid for the young girls that you brought to
31:44
mister Epstein's house. Answer yes. Question you also said that
31:48
the vast majority of those girls, with the exception of
31:51
perhaps two or three, were underage. Answer yes. Question Why
31:55
were you bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein's home? Answer
31:59
because he wanted the girls young. There were times I
32:02
would bring girls that looked older or were older, and
32:05
he would just walk out. He would leave the money
32:07
on the counter and just walk out. He wanted the
32:10
girls young. Question. Your deposition began with some significant discussion
32:14
about your involvement with criminal law. Do you recall that?
32:17
Answer yes. Question do you know how many of the
32:21
offenses discussed today, brought up by mister Epstein's defense lawyer
32:25
were offenses that occurred while you were a juvenile? Answer
32:28
there was one I got in trouble one time when
32:30
I was a juvenile. Question okay, so it was at
32:33
least one of those offenses when you were a juvenile.
32:36
Answer yes. Goldberger object to the form SCROLLA. There were
32:40
also some discussions about how those offenses were disposed of.
32:44
Do you know the difference between a guilty plea and
32:47
a guilty plea of no contest? Answer no contest is
32:51
you're not pled, You're not pleading admitting to it? Fully
32:54
correct answer. I want you to assume that to be
32:57
the case. Answer yeah. Question do you know which specific
33:00
charges were disposed of by guilty plea as opposed to
33:03
having been disposed of by a no contest plea? Answer no,
33:07
I'm not sure. Question all right. Do you know that
33:11
there is a difference between the adjudication of guilt and
33:13
having an adjudication of guilt withheld by the court even
33:17
after a plea of no contest? Answer right. Goldberger objection
33:22
to the form of the question SCROLLA. Do you recognize
33:25
that there is a distinction as to whether the court
33:28
adjudicates you guilty or withholds adjudication even after a plea
33:32
of no contest to a criminal charge? Goldberger object to
33:36
the form Courtney, right, I know that there's a difference,
33:39
and I can't even tell you really what the difference is. Scrolla, Okay,
33:43
do you know whether you were adjudicated guilty or whether
33:46
adjudication was withheld with regard to each of the circumstances
33:49
that mister Epstein's defense lawyer described. Answer yes, I believe
33:53
a couple of them were withheld adjudicated withheld. Question. Okay,
33:58
you told us that you started using drugs in two
34:01
thousand and two when you were fourteen. Correct answer yes.
34:04
Question is there any doubt in your mind that your
34:07
use of drugs began after Jeffrey Epstein began abusing you?
34:11
Goldberger object to the form Courtney, no scrola. You talked
34:16
about having been naked in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein
34:19
when you were fourteen years of age. Witness nods head
34:23
question prior to having been naked in the presence of
34:26
Jeffrey Epstein when you were fourteen, had you ever previously
34:30
been naked in the presence of a man? Goldberger object
34:34
the form the witness no scrola. Have you ever worked
34:37
as a dancer or stripper before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you?
34:41
To permit him to molest you. Goldberger object to the
34:44
form Courtney no scrolla. Had you ever had a sexual
34:49
experience with another female before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you
34:53
to permit him to sexually molest you? Goldberger objected the
34:56
form Courtney no scrola. Have you you ever had a
35:00
drug abuse problem before Jeffrey Epstein began regularly paying you
35:04
for sex at age fourteen? Coldberger objectiform Courtney no scrola.
35:10
Had you ever been convicted of a crime before Jeffrey
35:13
Epstein began paying you at age fourteen to allow them
35:16
to molest you? Goldberger objectiform Courtney no scrola. In addition
35:23
to the twenty to thirty young girls that you personally
35:25
were paid to bring to mister Epstein's home, are you
35:28
aware of others who are being paid by Jeffrey Epstein
35:31
while they were under the age of eighteen to allow
35:33
Jeffrey Epstein to sexually molest them? Coldberger OBJECTI form Courtney
35:39
yes scarrola. Can you give us an estimate as to
35:42
the number of other girls, apart from those that you
35:45
brought Scola who were being paid by Jeffrey Epstein. Goldberger
35:50
objectiform Scrola to allow Jeffrey Epstein to sexually molest them.
35:54
Coldberger OBJECTI form answer, there's so many in West Palm Beach.
36:00
There are so many girls. Can't even give you a
36:02
number of how many scrolla prior to being introduced to
36:06
Jeffrey Epstein. What type of student were you? Answer? I
36:09
was a straight a student. Question were you involved in
36:12
school activity? Answer yeah, I was the captain of the
36:15
cheerleading squad. I played the trumpet. I was first your trumpet.
36:19
Question Which high school did you go to? Answer? Lakeworth?
36:22
Middle question? Did you ever get to graduate from Lake Worth?
36:25
Answer yeah? Question and did you go to high school?
36:29
Answer no? In the summer of eighth to ninth grade
36:32
is when I met Jeffrey Epstein. After that kind of
36:35
when everything started going downhill. When I went to ninth grade,
36:39
I just never went. I went for maybe a week
36:41
or so, and then I even moved schools to John
36:43
I Leonard, and I just dropped out. Question there is
36:49
some likelihood that this testimony will be presented to the jury.
36:52
By the way of the videotape that is being taken
36:54
of your testimony, I would like you to tell the
36:58
ladies and gentlemen of the jury, as best you're able
37:00
to how much money Jeffrey Epstein was paying you on
37:03
an average during this period of time that you were
37:06
being paid to bring girls to him for purposes of
37:09
sexual molestation, and during the period of time that you yourself
37:13
were being paid to submit to sexual molestation by Jeffrey.
37:18
Mister Goldberger object to the form, Courtney, I was being
37:21
paid two hundred dollars for every girl. There were a
37:24
couple of girls that looked real young that he would
37:26
pay me three hundred dollars for bringing. But I would
37:29
bring him a girl sometimes twice a day, really once
37:32
a day or some others just once, but at least
37:34
four or five times a week. So I don't know
37:38
if you do the math on that, you know, two
37:40
four six eight, that's at least eight hundred dollars a
37:42
week for just one girl for four days, you know. SCROLLA.
37:47
What were the economic circumstances of your family during this
37:50
period of time before Jeffrey Epstein started to pay you
37:53
those sums of money. Answer? I came from a poor family,
37:57
you know. Question was your mom the sole support of
37:59
the family during that period of time? Answer? She was
38:03
a single parent. Question and did you have siblings? Answer
38:07
a brother, but she didn't. He moved with my father's parent,
38:11
my grandparents on my dad's side, so it was just me.
38:15
Question Okay, so it was just you and your mom
38:17
and she was the sole support of your household. Is
38:20
that correct? Answer? Yes, scrolla object to the form. Question
38:25
did you work? Answer? She worked as a waitress. Question
38:28
and was your mom experiencing drug problems at the time
38:31
when you first became involved with Jeffrey Epstein. Answer yeah.
38:36
Question describe the circumstances that led to your being introduced
38:40
to Jeffrey Epstein. Answer, there was just a couple. There
38:43
was an incident where my mom was switching apartments and
38:46
we were going from one apartment to another, and she
38:49
was saving money or doing whatever she was doing. And
38:51
that's when I kind of started sleeping over at Tatum's
38:54
house because my mom was having issues with you know,
38:57
with her car and just all types of stuff. Was
39:00
more stable for me to live at Tatum's or stay
39:02
at Tatum's house a lot. And then when Tatum's dad seen,
39:05
you know, that my mom was having a hard time
39:07
and then taking care of me on top of you know,
39:09
her just trying to survive, pay our bills and stuff.
39:12
He allowed me to come stay with him. Question did
39:15
there come a point in time when a routine developed
39:18
with regard to what would happen once you got to
39:20
Jeffrey Epstein's mansion? Goldberger object A form Courtney, Yes, SCROLLA.
39:29
Would you describe to the jurors what the routine was,
39:32
what typically happened? Goldberger object A form Courtney. We would
39:36
show up either he would have a driver come get us,
39:39
or he would We would take a cab there and
39:41
he would pay for it, and we would enter his
39:43
house and we would up like off to his kitchen.
39:46
There was like a stairwell. We'd go up the stairwell
39:49
and like to his bedroom, through his bedroom and go
39:51
to the bathroom. But it was like, you know, as
39:53
big as this room, and we just set up the
39:56
massage table, put towels on it. SCROLLA. Let me interrupt
40:00
you there for just a moment. Question you're speaking of
40:03
We answer right, question we being picked up by a
40:07
driver or we taking a cab there and Epstein's paying
40:10
for the cab ride? Answer uh huh. Question was it
40:14
generally more than just you alone? Answer right? It was
40:17
either me or whoever I was bringing, or you know,
40:20
when I first went, me and Tatum, and sometimes he
40:23
would pay me and Tatum to go back. Me and
40:25
Tatum went together more than once, you know. Question. Okay,
40:28
so I interrupted you in your description of what went on.
40:31
There was usually more than one girl there at a time.
40:34
Colberger objected to form Courtney. Yes, SCROLLA, what happened, Courtney.
40:41
So we would go upstairs and we'd set up the
40:44
massage table, and we would get undressed and wait for
40:46
him to walk in. And he would walk in normally
40:49
like a robe, and lay on the massage table, and
40:51
one girl you know, would get on one side of him,
40:54
and I would get on the other side and give
40:56
him a massage, like for thirty minutes, on each side
40:58
of them, and he would take like phone business calls,
41:01
like phone calls. As we do this, SCROLLA, I'm going
41:05
to interrupt you again for just a moment. You said
41:08
that Jeffrey entered the room wearing a robe and then
41:11
he got on the massage table. Courtney. Uh huh. Goldberger
41:16
object to the form SCROLLA. Did he continue to wear
41:19
the robe when he was on the massage table? Courtney. No,
41:22
he would take it off and he wouldn't have any
41:24
clothes on. All right, we're gonna wrap up right here,
41:27
and then the next episode, dealing with the issue, we're
41:29
gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
41:32
information that goes with this episode can be found in
41:35
the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome to another
41:43
episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna
41:47
pick up where we left off with the Courtney Wild deposition. SCROLLA,
41:51
did he continue to wear the robe when he was
41:54
on the massage table? Answer? No, he would take it
41:57
off and he wouldn't have any clothes on. SCROLLA, okay, answer,
42:03
and we would just put like a towel over his
42:06
butt while we massaged them. SCROLLA, tell us what happened next? Answer?
42:11
And when he was done taking his phone calls and
42:13
stuff like that, he would flip over. And if I
42:15
was bringing a girl, he would ask me to go
42:17
downstairs and wait for and either he would have the
42:20
money when he came in, he would put the money
42:22
on the counter, or you know, I can't. That's normally
42:24
what he would do. And so I'd go downstairs and
42:26
I'd wait for the girl to get done, and I'd
42:28
wait in the kitchen for her until she came down. Question,
42:32
were there circumstances where you were asked to participate in
42:35
sexual activity with Jeffrey Epstein before you left the girl
42:39
that you brought with you? Goldberger object to form Courtney. No,
42:43
normally he would just want one person there. I mean
42:46
unless if, like when Tatum brought me there the first time,
42:49
you know, I was the girl who got left in
42:51
the room. You know, scrolla. How many times, if you
42:54
can estimate for us, were you the girl who got
42:56
left in the room and were the one who was
42:58
engaging in seconextual activity with Jeffrey Epstein? Goldberger object to
43:03
the form Courtney several. Goldberger object to the form Courtney.
43:09
I can't remember how many times SCROLLA and Courtney several
43:14
SCROLLA when there was sexual activity between you and Jeffrey Epstein?
43:19
What occurred? Goldberger object to the form Courtney. He would
43:24
want me to stand next to him, and he would
43:25
like just grab onto my grab onto my body and
43:29
just touch my body and touch me while he jacked off,
43:32
and he wanted me to like rub his nipples and
43:34
stuff like that. Question all right, was there ever a
43:36
circumstance were you engaged in sexual intercourse with Jeffrey Epstein.
43:40
Answer no. Question. Was there ever a circumstance where there
43:44
was any oral sex between you and Jeffrey Epstein? Answer
43:48
no question. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever make any monetary promises
43:52
to you for any future conduct in which he wanted
43:55
you to engage? Goldberger object to form Courtney no scrolla
44:01
apart from his having well, let me back up for
44:03
just a moment, did mister Epstein, before you began bringing
44:06
other girls to him offer you money for your bringing
44:09
other girls to him? Answer yes. Question did you know
44:13
how much you were going to get paid? Answer? I
44:16
can't remember if you specified two hundred, but I just
44:19
know that I was given two hundred dollars, so I
44:21
think I made that conclusion, but I can't remember if
44:24
he specified that or not. Question. Other than your having
44:28
been paid extra when you girls you brought were particularly young,
44:31
were there any other circumstances under which the payment that
44:35
you received varied from the straight two hundred dollars Goldberger
44:39
object to form question No. There was a couple of times,
44:43
like there was the time that he brought another girl,
44:46
like I went there by myself and he called me
44:48
asked me to come over there, and I went over
44:50
there by myself, and he brought somebody I can't remember
44:53
the girl's name into the room and he paid me
44:55
extra to, like, I guess, have a threesome, so to
44:59
speak with her. Question do you ever recall having met
45:03
a girl by the name of Nadia? Answer yeah. Question
45:08
and do you know whether that girl that you were
45:10
referring to as having been brought in the room for
45:13
a threesome was named Nadia? Answer? Yeah, that was her name.
45:17
Question and does the last name Marsenkova mean anything to you? Answer?
45:21
I can't remember her last name, but I'm sure that's it.
45:24
Question can you describe to us what Nadia look like? Answer? Yeah,
45:29
she was really pretty, blonde, terror she couldn't speak any English,
45:32
like green eyes, tall, skinny. Question when you left the room,
45:36
leaving behind someone you had brought to Jeffrey's house, did
45:40
you ever have any conversation with those young girls that
45:42
you brought to mister Epstein's house about what went on
45:45
when you left? Goldberger object to the form Courtney, Yeah,
45:50
they would, but a lot of times I wouldn't want
45:53
to tell them exactly what would happen, So I would
45:56
just tell them that, you know, you don't have to
45:58
get you can leave your broad and panties, and he
46:01
just wants to look at your body and he's probably
46:03
going to jack off. I would tell them that scrolla
46:06
all right? And did you have conversations with any of
46:09
those girls afterwards about what had actually happened when you
46:12
left them alone with Jeffrey Epstein? Goldberger object to the form, Courtney.
46:18
There were a couple times that girls came down and
46:21
they just looked traumatized, but they nobody. And the one girl,
46:25
Amy that I brought another time, she was of age.
46:28
She said something transpired between the two of them. She
46:32
was real mad at him, but she wouldn't tell me
46:34
what happened either. Question, Okay, was there any session with
46:38
Jeffrey Epstein in which you were involved that began as
46:41
a massage that did not progress to sexual touching? Answer?
46:46
No question. Apart from the one circumstance that you have
46:49
described with Nadia, were there any other circumstances where Jeffrey
46:52
Epstein had you engage in sexual activity with any other
46:55
person in his presence? Goldberger object to form Courtney. No, Goldberger,
47:02
I'll withdraw that the objection Scrolla, it's too late now.
47:05
Do you know whether there was any other girls besides
47:07
you who were being paid to bring underage girls to
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Jeffrey Epstein for purposes of sexual conduct? Mister Goldberger object
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to the form Courtney. Yes, Scrolla. Who else do you
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know of? Answer Tatum? This Carolamanda. I can't remember everybody's
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name right now. Question do you have any idea how
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many girls Tatum brought, separate and apart from the twenty
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or thirty that you brought? Answer yes, she brought several.
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She brought way more than I did. Question did you
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ever meet a woman by the name of Sarah Kellen?
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Answer yes, question and tell us about that meeting Goldberger
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object the form Courtney. She was his assistant and she
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would answer the phone, and anytime I would go there,
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I would meet her. She was normally at a desk
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like working and stuff like that, but she was always
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real nice to me, just like you know, kind of.
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I didn't hang out with her or anything, but I
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met her almost every time I went there. Sca. Was
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Sarah Kelln ever president in the room when Jeffrey Epstein
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was engaging in the sexual molestation of a young girl.
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Goldberger object to the form Courtney, No, never with me NOCA.
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Was Sarah Kellen's position in the house such that young
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girls entering and leaving the house would generally have to
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encounter Sarah Kellen in that coming and going process? Answer yes.
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Question did you cooperate with the federal government in the
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investigation into Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes. Question and did you
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hire Brad Edwards for the purpose of enforcing your legal
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rights and claims against Jeffrey Epstein? Answer yes. Question did
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Jeffrey Epstein ultimately pay you to settle your claim for
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damage against them? Answer yes. Question could you describe your
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physical appearance when you first started to go to Jeffrey
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Epstein's pom Beach mansion. Goldberger object to form Courtney. Yeah,
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I was fourteen years old. I had braces on my teeth.
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I was just really young. I don't know how else
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to describe it. Scrolla. Apart from submitting to sexual molestation
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by Jeffrey Epstein, were you providing any other services to
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Jeffrey Epstein? Did you clean his house? Did you press
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his clothing anything like that? Answer no, Goldberger objectiform Courtney, No, Scrolla.
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Are you aware of any of the other miners who
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are being paid by Jeffrey Epstein for performing any service
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for him other than submitting to his sexual molestation. Goldberger
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objectiform Courtney no Scrola. Had you had any experience in
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giving massages before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to submit
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to his procedure that you have described that began with
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massages and led to molestation? Goldberger OBJECTI form Courtney, no Scrola.
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Have you ever engaged in any sale of sexual related
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services before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to submit to
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sexual molestation? Mister Goldberger object to form, courtey no Scarrola.
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Have you ever had access to the kind of money
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that Jeffrey Epstein began to pay you at any time
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before Jeffrey Epstein began to pay you? Answer no, Scrolla.
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May I just have a moment, please, Edwards. Could we
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just take a quick break so they go off the record,
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then they're back. Question, Miss wild you told us that
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when you first began going to Jeffrey Epstein's bomb Beach
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mansion that you were still embraces at the time. Is
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that correct? Answer? Yes? Goldberger object to form. I'm sorry Scrolla.
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You also told us that you have no recollection of
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Jeffrey Epstein ever performing oral sex on you. Correct? Did
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there ever come to a point in time where Jeffrey
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Epstein had you perform oral sex on him and complained
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that about your braces interfering with that experience Forum answer? Yes,
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Goldberger object to the form question tell us about that,
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if you would please. What happened? Answer? It was after
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I was down massaging him, whoever walked out of the
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room and he started like feeling on me, like have
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me walk up. So I was like in his arm
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area and he was just like jacking off in his hand,
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and he asked me to give them moral sex. So
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when I started to try, he then stopped me and
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told me that you know I was hurting him or whatever.
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Question and is that the only time that that happened?
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That one time that you can recall? Answer yes. Question
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as you look back on all of the things that
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we unfortunately have been required to ask you about during
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the course of this deposition, how do you feel about that?
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Goldberger object to form Courtney, It makes me just feel
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I just feel ashamed. I feel ashamed, I really feel shame.
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I can't even really put all my emotions into words
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right now? How I feel? You know? Scrolla, all right,
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thank you. I don't have any further questions, Courtney, thank you.
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Quick read direct by Goldberger. Question your mother had a
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drug problem before you add any kind of involvement with
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mister Epstein. Correct answer, yeah, Goldberger, that's all I have, videographer.
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This concludes the deposition of Courtney E Wilde. The time
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is approximately one point thirty PM and we are off
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the record. All right, folks, that's going to do it
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for the Courtney wild deposition, But have no fear. As usual,
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plenty more is on the way. All of the information
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