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Hot Topics: RHOA Drama, Did Kandi Pay Todd $2 Million? & Married to Medicine Recap · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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Speaker 2: I want to start off with.
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Speaker 3: An update of what happened over the weekend. Candy and
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Speaker 3: todd divorce is officially finalized.
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Speaker 2: I want to be able to read you guys the
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Speaker 2: details of what happened.
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Speaker 3: The Jasmine Brand exclusively reports that Candy and Todd have
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Speaker 3: submitted a settlement in their ongoing divorce case, according to
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Speaker 3: a source president in the court room, but their effort
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Speaker 3: to keep details private is facing facing pushback.
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Speaker 4: Excuse me.
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Speaker 2: According to the source, they finalized their.
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Speaker 3: Agreement on March eleventh, where they reached a full and
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Speaker 3: final statement. The case have remained open as the court
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Speaker 3: awaited the completed documents. Long story short, the judge declined
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Speaker 3: to fully seal the case at this time, so because
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Speaker 3: of that brain drops, we may be able to read
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Speaker 3: exactly what happened.
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Speaker 2: There were rumors floating around for.
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Speaker 3: The past week that Candy paid Todd a total lump
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Speaker 3: sum of two million dollars. The other rumor was that
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Speaker 3: he had primary custody and was getting fifteen or twenty
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars a month. Candy has the bunk this, saying
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Speaker 3: all of this is untrue and she doesn't know where
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Speaker 3: people got that information from that it wasn't true. Claudia,
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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on Candy and Todd reaching the
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Speaker 3: divorce settlement. People aren't surprised that it happened so fast,
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Speaker 3: which I am curious on your take on that.
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Speaker 5: I think happening so fast it means that they're not
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Speaker 5: fighting like we think they might.
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean. When you're not communicating and
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Speaker 6: not talking, that's when it drives out.
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Speaker 5: I was married for four months. It took eight months
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Speaker 5: to get out of it. Okay twice. It's going to
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Speaker 5: get out of it because we weren't communicating. But when
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Speaker 5: you are communicating, which they have to because of coparently,
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Speaker 5: and you're someone getting along, it speeds it up. It's
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Speaker 5: a lot faster. You know, so that's a good sign.
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Speaker 5: I don't like that these things.
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Speaker 6: Are to open to the public. As much as we
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Speaker 6: talk about people's business for a living.
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Speaker 5: Right, I think you should be able to keep some
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Speaker 5: of the elements of your divorce settlement private. And I think, like,
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Speaker 5: I don't even think that's asking too much. I don't
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Speaker 5: even know why they didn't allow that. I mean, have
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Speaker 5: it's like, are you not entertained? Have you not gotten
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Speaker 5: enough out of my life?
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Speaker 6: You know, my marriages.
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Speaker 3: He did say that the opposing party wanted it.
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Speaker 4: To be.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that sucks, and Toddy, I need you should be
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Speaker 5: on the same page as your ex wife as far
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Speaker 5: as like not wanting it to be out there. And
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Speaker 5: that's to me, that's just another way of sticking it
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Speaker 5: to you, you know, like I remember when Drew and
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Speaker 5: uh basement guys, what's the husband? The guy I underneath
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Speaker 5: the Stair, I'm sorry Peacock movie, underneath the Stay, I'm
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Speaker 5: sorry my my old age Byanina, I'm sorry forgetting some time.
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Speaker 6: Blame it on my c C if you will.
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Speaker 7: So, Yes, Ralph on the Stairs child.
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Speaker 5: He wanted it public and she didn't, right, Like, I
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Speaker 5: think that's such a whack move like listen, I know
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Speaker 5: we ain't get along right now, but come on, that's
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Speaker 5: just trying to stick it to the person one more time.
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Speaker 5: You want something that it's not to help their partner,
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Speaker 5: it's to hurt them. Usually you're trying to embarrass them
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Speaker 5: with something.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I don't like it, Todd, knock it off.
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Speaker 5: M my opinion, But you know, like I said, it
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Speaker 5: took me twice as long as a marriage get out,
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Speaker 5: so I get it.
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Speaker 6: So I'm glad that it wrapped up quickly.
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Speaker 7: Though you're being kind of Todd. I don't think it
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Speaker 7: wrapping up quickly was because they were communicating. I think
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Speaker 7: it's because Candy's lawyers were lawyering. Because everything I've seen
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Speaker 7: of Todd speaks of the fact that Aunt Bertha was
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Speaker 7: a prophet and we all owe her fruit basket. I
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Speaker 7: think this. I think Todd has been showing his ass
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Speaker 7: since the holidays, and that it's Candy's lawyers that got
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Speaker 7: it so quickly. I honestly, I love when you see
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Speaker 7: a lover girl who is still about her business. And
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Speaker 7: the thing about Candy that I hope everybody takes note of,
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Speaker 7: even when she loved the dog pissed out of that man.
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Speaker 7: She always had her papers in order, she says. She
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Speaker 7: we talked to Camille Grammar and all these other people
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Speaker 7: who have been through divorces, and they had told her, hey,
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Speaker 7: have a close in there that if you guys ever separate,
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Speaker 7: he has to be off the premises in thirty days.
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Speaker 7: Make sure this is this, Make sure this is that.
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Speaker 7: Make sure if he's working with you as a producer,
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Speaker 7: he says, a producer and not just a partner. So
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Speaker 7: legally there are clear lines around whatever whatever. Even when
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Speaker 7: she was madly in love, she was still about her business.
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Speaker 7: And I think all those safeguards that you have in
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Speaker 7: place even when you're in love, just in case the
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Speaker 7: love goes somewhere else completely covered her. And this is
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Speaker 7: a beautiful like infomercial for legal Zoom. The next time,
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Speaker 7: I mean, I like more than twenty minutes. We're going
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Speaker 7: to get us some documents. Candy, you are like literally
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Speaker 7: my north star. Now a BYuT how to deal with
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Speaker 7: people moving forward, Because as a woman with a little
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Speaker 7: bit of money, I recognize when I date men now
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Speaker 7: and the suv comes to pick me up, there's a
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Speaker 7: twinkle that tells me I don't want to see you
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Speaker 7: no more. You know what I mean. We're in a
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Speaker 7: different age with the men of the baddies now. It's tricky.
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Speaker 7: So as somebody out here in these days streets a
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Speaker 7: little bit of coin, I'm taking notes, and I, yeah,
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Speaker 7: make shot the candy and her lawyer's todd you a mess.
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Speaker 7: But shot the candy and her lawyers for doing whatever
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Speaker 7: they did. And of course I want everything to be
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Speaker 7: open because he needs more story.
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Speaker 5: He needs more story, Lou, we gotta start pretending that
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Speaker 5: we're broke.
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Speaker 7: Though I tried a girl. But I can't fly coach.
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Speaker 5: And oh I fly coach all the time, like I'm
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Speaker 5: a coach flying mid all that aren't listen, I'll spend
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Speaker 5: the money.
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Speaker 7: I have a deposition next week. I have an injury
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Speaker 7: that prevents me from flying coach. Carlos flying, I'm not.
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Speaker 5: A boogie flyer and American Airline first classes trash.
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Speaker 7: It's just American airlizes the spirit plus dirty one all day. Baby.
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry. If I can't get I'm not going, but
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Speaker 7: you no, I I honestly think the girls with a coin.
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Speaker 7: You need to watch what Candy is doing because she
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Speaker 7: loved that man, and she still protected herself. That's that's
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Speaker 7: the biggest lesson in this. Love him and still protect yourself.
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Speaker 2: Dustin Bross her thoughts.
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Speaker 8: I think Candy and Todd and Geez about this divorce
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Speaker 8: shit the whole time. I think that all of us
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Speaker 8: were waiting on the other shoe to drop, so to speak,
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Speaker 8: and things never really got publicly nasty. You know, we
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Speaker 8: heard details and we were making inferences and shit, but
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Speaker 8: half of the shit wasn't true. And what we did
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Speaker 8: find out was every time Candy spoke about it, she said,
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Speaker 8: you know, I really think that after we get the
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Speaker 8: divorce worked out, we'll be friends. She's like, we're communicating,
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Speaker 8: we've been functioning as co parents at the kids events,
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Speaker 8: and we're actually taking a trip together. They've been co
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Speaker 8: parenting successfully and I faced this whole time.
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Speaker 4: And much like Candy.
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Speaker 8: Used to do when she was on the Real Housewives
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Speaker 8: of Atlanta, she's already turned this into any event. She
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Speaker 8: has a one woman show coming up in Atlanta that's
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Speaker 8: already sold out, and I think the title is like
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Speaker 8: I Do, I Did, I'm Done, something like that, but
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Speaker 8: she's already posted it, already turned this into a one
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Speaker 8: woman's show.
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Speaker 4: Go Candy, Just go Candy.
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Speaker 8: Been and shit for so long, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 8: And she's still the shit today, still besting herself professionally
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Speaker 8: every turn, and it really is inspiring to see. I'm
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Speaker 8: a person who believes, like when you break up or
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Speaker 8: relationship ends, you should be on good terms and have
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Speaker 8: a forever friend, to have somebody that to keep your
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Speaker 8: secrets and hide the dope, so to speak, you know
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Speaker 8: what I'm saying. So like, I like seeing this workout
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Speaker 8: for the two of them in a way that's positive.
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Speaker 4: I enjoy. I'm happy to see that.
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Speaker 6: I am sure I think they're breaking up.
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Speaker 5: I mean, we can talk about what however they behave
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Speaker 5: it was before, but it seems that they're I'm not
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Speaker 5: mad at this breakup.
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Speaker 6: I've seen boyfriend girlfriends break up worse than this.
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Speaker 7: Mh.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I think they're doing a great job at Listen.
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Speaker 3: We know that there's been a lot of rumors circulating
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Speaker 3: around all these types of accusations, and I think they
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Speaker 3: both have done a good job not speaking about it
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Speaker 3: publicly in a way that could have made things worse
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Speaker 3: for them, and they really kept it in the courtroom
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Speaker 3: and being.
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Speaker 2: On the outside looking again.
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Speaker 3: I feel like they allow them lawyers to be mean
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Speaker 3: towards each other, and they were coladal damage that I
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Speaker 3: love you and love lawyers.
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Speaker 2: That's how it should be.
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Speaker 3: No talk to the lawyers, because that's that's how it
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Speaker 3: should be. And I think that's the reason why we're
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Speaker 3: all happy that And then I get it's messy by
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Speaker 3: both of.
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Speaker 2: Them saying things.
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Speaker 3: So one thing I want to get into that is
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Speaker 3: messy is Cay Michelle on Sherry Shepherd's talk show, Claudia,
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Speaker 3: your cousin caught a stray the beautiful juice a.
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Speaker 4: Door on that floor like that, just laying there was
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Speaker 4: on the floor. I must have missed the bit. I
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Speaker 4: turned around.
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Speaker 8: I was heating one of them turkey wings from yesterday
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Speaker 8: when I was watching it, And by the time I
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Speaker 8: turned back around, Cherry was on the floor in Chartreuse.
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Speaker 8: I didn't know why she was down there on the
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Speaker 8: floor like that was and stayed.
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Speaker 7: It was a lot, Yeah, she stayed down there.
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Speaker 4: Cherry, get up, girls, get up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I think seriously, when people put L O L on
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Speaker 5: the floor, laughing my ass off, she like took it seriously.
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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, We're just like, do it.
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Speaker 7: You don't need to.
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Speaker 6: I know we all, but the young kids mean.
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Speaker 7: She couldn't get up, but she couldn't though had no choice.
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Speaker 8: She needed that button they had on them commercials back
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Speaker 8: in the day. I fall and I can't get up.
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Speaker 8: She needed a life alert and that she needed that chair,
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Speaker 8: need to be on a on a railed She could.
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Speaker 4: Do that, but I chare you get up? You know
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Okay, So let me start with Dustin then, because Dustin
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Speaker 3: had two sold out shows last week.
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Speaker 2: In New York City. So was this shade or was
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Speaker 2: it factual?
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Speaker 3: Did a Warren Sherry Shevard getting on the floor as
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Speaker 3: they're promoting the new season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta,
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Speaker 3: which is coming on in two weeks, they asked about.
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Speaker 2: Dreus of Dora.
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Speaker 3: Sherry Shepard said, I saw on the trailer Kim Michelle
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Speaker 3: that you and Drew got into it. Kim Michelle said,
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Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with music. As much as
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Speaker 3: Drew wanted to, I've always given love and props to beginners.
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Speaker 2: And that's when.
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Speaker 3: Sherry fell on the floor and then laughing at it.
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Speaker 3: Angela Oapley said, that's my Chicago's sister. I love you
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Speaker 3: Kiy Michelle, but I'm gonna have her back. Shout out
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Speaker 3: to Drew starting with you, Dustin. Do you think it
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Speaker 3: was shade for ky Michelle to say she always supported
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Speaker 3: beginners as it relates to drus of Dora's music career.
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Speaker 4: Definitely. I also think that it was.
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Speaker 8: Contradictory because she literally said that she don't she it's
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Speaker 8: not about the music, but then went directly into insulting
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Speaker 8: Drew's music career.
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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, is it uchio alia one
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Speaker 4: Mike Mama?
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Speaker 8: And we've seen ky Michelle show her entire ass on
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Speaker 8: love and hip hop for multiple seasons, and one of
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Speaker 8: the best parts about watching her shine on that show
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Speaker 8: was her humor and her wit in the moment and
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Speaker 8: in them confessional interview scenes. So I honestly feel like
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Speaker 8: she can do better and I'm looking forward to it.
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Speaker 8: I know it's a new role for her, being a housewife,
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Speaker 8: and shit, you know what I'm saying, She been dressing
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Speaker 8: like you know the fifties what of them wives called
12:19
Speaker 8: what's some wives from the fifties that Stepford wives. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: she's been dressing like that a lot of a lot
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Speaker 8: of you know, tool can can skirts and shit, you know,
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Speaker 8: and big hair.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, I see what you're doing, but it's
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Speaker 8: a different kym Michelle.
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Speaker 4: I welcome the new, but I just.
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Speaker 8: Want more of the humor and the wit and the
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Speaker 8: funny that the real humor Chemishell is actually funny for real.
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Speaker 8: And I feel like she was holding back on Sherry's couch,
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Speaker 8: but I recognize it's new for her.
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Speaker 4: Give her some time. I'm sure she gonna break out,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 5: Claudia Jordan, I'm kind of sick of people coming for
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Speaker 5: jeral It's like seems like it's like an easy, kind
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Speaker 5: of lazy kind of issues and less there's something that
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Speaker 5: we haven't seen that they there's a real issue for
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Speaker 5: them to really be fighting over. Because I feel like
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Speaker 5: when people come on the show, like it's like, oh,
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Speaker 5: I don't want to fight with any of the other girls.
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Speaker 6: I'll just go up to Drew. I'll just get into
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Speaker 6: it with Drew.
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Speaker 5: And I just feel like it's been done already, like
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Speaker 5: several times. And like Dustin said, she's funny, like she
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Speaker 5: can find humor another way. Listen, they're different, they're on
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Speaker 5: different levels musically. But let's not act like Drew with
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Speaker 5: some beginner bum when it comes to music. Let's not
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Speaker 5: act like she'd have one of the best albums out
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Speaker 5: last year. Let's not act like she wasn't up for
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Speaker 5: Grammy consideration. Let's not act like she's not like a
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Speaker 5: talented person. And then like shade her movies, movies that
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Speaker 5: no one's seen. Jew's been on the scene longer than
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Speaker 5: all of us. I think, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 5: like Drew's but she's been around for a long time,
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Speaker 5: and I just think that people think that Drew is
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Speaker 5: an easy target. But after last season, I think Drew
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Speaker 5: showed that she's she's not really.
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Speaker 6: To be played with like that.
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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, I don't think that it's in
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Speaker 5: a goal the way people think that she just to
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Speaker 5: get punked and say nothing.
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Speaker 6: She's not loud.
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Speaker 5: She's gonna be like smirky and say her shade with
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Speaker 5: a smile. But I just feel like it's a kind
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Speaker 5: of I don't know, I'm kind of it's like at
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Speaker 5: some point it's like all right, and every.
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Speaker 6: Season that Drew gotta get this she gotta every season.
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Speaker 5: Like, let's let's go a different rounde unless, like I said,
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Speaker 5: if she's totally justified and Drew some does some crazy
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Speaker 5: thing that came in shot, We're like, oh my god, Drew,
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Speaker 5: you was wrong.
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Speaker 6: But if it's just like all right, I'm picking you.
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Speaker 3: Nay, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.
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Speaker 2: Blue, you better look.
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Speaker 7: Out for your cousin.
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Speaker 6: I'm about my family, you know what.
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Speaker 7: So interesting, I think Drew's biggest sin because I do
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Speaker 7: agree that I've known Drew Door since she was with
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Speaker 7: Durwin playing Juice of Door. Okay, that's how long the
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Speaker 7: lady been around, like she played herself shout out to
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Speaker 7: the game. But though I'm thinking about just the archetypes
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Speaker 7: of all the Bravo girls, and I think Drew's biggest
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Speaker 7: sin when it comes to the audience and the co
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Speaker 7: stars is that she is a bit of a try
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Speaker 7: hard in people's eyes, like you want like you know
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Speaker 7: how too many I may got on the stage and
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Speaker 7: said I really want to ask us, so everybody made
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Speaker 7: sure he didn't get one because he was two pressed.
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Speaker 7: Drew really wants a lot of things and lets us
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Speaker 7: know how badly she wants them and doesn't have a
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Speaker 7: poke her face. And people sometimes penalize you for that
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Speaker 7: in these shows. They see it like a weakness. It's
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Speaker 7: almost like a constant hazy, like we know how bad
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Speaker 7: you want it, so if you try to get it
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Speaker 7: and it's not an epic success, we're gonna chip away
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Speaker 7: at you. So I do think that Kay Michelle, who's
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Speaker 7: done really well musically and we're not gonna lie kill
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Speaker 7: Michelle's is a superstar musically, right, Because she Drew wanted
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Speaker 7: that level of stardom so bad, it's almost like an
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Speaker 7: obvious weakness for her to poke at it is lazy
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Speaker 7: and cheap, it's also very obvious, right. I also think
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Speaker 7: for me, Drew reminds me I can't even about to
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Speaker 7: say this. I know my guy's gonna disagree, But imagine
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Speaker 7: if Stacy and Angel had a baby. That to what
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Speaker 7: Drew feels like. Because she is fun and playful and
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Speaker 7: will give it back. I'm from I'm from Chicago, like
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Speaker 7: a Stacy, but she lie a lot and we kind
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Speaker 7: of look away, and then there are times where she
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Speaker 7: just pulls an Angel and like, oh, Drew, get up
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Speaker 7: and so she It's like, it's like an oscillating fan.
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Speaker 7: Is the fan gonna be cool like Stacy or hot
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Speaker 7: like she does? She's an Angel Stacey hybrid in my opinion.
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Speaker 7: So I think that's why the girls be conflicted with her,
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Speaker 7: be rude for her, and then I don't, and then
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Speaker 7: I do again, and then Ralph, what is Ralph? I'm
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Speaker 7: so happy Ralph's out of her basement. So yeah, Drew
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Speaker 7: is a complicated character. And though I will say this,
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Speaker 7: her longevity speaks unlike Angel, her longevity speaks for itself.
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Speaker 7: The lady's been around for decades in this industry. So
16:43
Speaker 7: just based on her IMDb page, we do have to
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Speaker 7: put some more respect on her name.
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Speaker 5: I mean, move all kinds of stuff that she's done.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I hate people about people's careers. It ain't
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Speaker 5: like we all.
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Speaker 4: Don't want to be bigger and on the same show.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, how are you gonna shave me? We have
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Speaker 5: the same You actually came on the show that I
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Speaker 5: it on for five years.
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Speaker 8: And while Drew may not have as much success as
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Speaker 8: Cae Michelle in music, Drew Sodora is relevant to entertainment
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Speaker 8: overall because she's been acting since she was a fucking child.
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Speaker 8: That literally, so like she has just as much equity
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Speaker 8: and entertainment or value to the entertainment industry as a K.
17:18
Speaker 4: Michelle does.
17:19
Speaker 8: In fact, if they both walk down the street in
17:21
Speaker 8: uh Van Nights, California. You know what I'm saying, who
17:25
Speaker 8: you think gonna get recognized first?
17:27
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
17:27
Speaker 8: Like, I you got to think about that before you
17:30
Speaker 8: start running your mouth about shit.
17:31
Speaker 4: So I'm a Claudia on this one.
17:32
Speaker 8: I don't really like the music shaming shit, you know
17:35
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like, y'all on the same show, Find
17:38
Speaker 8: something else to argue about.
17:39
Speaker 7: Find I think to your point is Drew's resume speaks
17:43
Speaker 7: for herself. But there's an openness to Drew like an angel,
17:47
Speaker 7: Like she wants to be a part of the collective
17:49
Speaker 7: that those girls they pounce on, they see it as
17:52
Speaker 7: whether we want to admit or not. If you act
17:53
Speaker 7: like you care, they're gonna see it as a weakness.
17:55
Speaker 5: Which kind of sucks, right because it's like you damn
17:57
Speaker 5: if you do you damn if you don't write, like
17:59
Speaker 5: if you act like you don't care, like that's oh
18:02
Speaker 5: you one of the cool kids and that I don't know.
18:04
Speaker 6: I just I get sick of it, and and I
18:07
Speaker 6: want to just make it very very clear. Ky Michelle,
18:10
Speaker 6: hella talented. You got that.
18:12
Speaker 5: The voice is amazing, You're super funny, Juice of Door.
18:16
Speaker 5: You are you you you. I love how you've pivoted
18:18
Speaker 5: since you've been on the show. You have a very
18:21
Speaker 5: very long acting resume, and you can sing, and you
18:23
Speaker 5: put together a really good album. Like there's room for
18:25
Speaker 5: both of these ladies, Like there's room for both of them.
18:27
Speaker 5: I wish they could have collabed, but you know that
18:29
Speaker 5: ain't gonna happen again.
18:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'll say this.
18:34
Speaker 3: I as somebody who worked with Cam Michelle on Love
18:38
Speaker 3: and Hip Hop the first two seasons, and Kate Michelle
18:41
Speaker 3: is a force to be reckoned with. I thought ky
18:44
Speaker 3: Michelle was being kind with the Shade, because we know
18:48
Speaker 3: ky Michelle can't and one sentence and discerate you. So
18:53
Speaker 3: I thought the beginner's thing was very much light shade.
18:56
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was that serious. I grew with
18:58
Speaker 3: the guys.
18:58
Speaker 2: I think the.
18:59
Speaker 3: Overreaction with the people around her made it bigger. I
19:02
Speaker 3: think I think if we all sat there.
19:04
Speaker 2: And just did, it would not have been as big.
19:07
Speaker 3: I think the people around her made it bigger than
19:09
Speaker 3: what ca Michell was saying.
19:11
Speaker 2: That's how I took it.
19:12
Speaker 3: I think Michelle was definitely trying to play it nicer.
19:15
Speaker 3: The other thing for me is this, I have been
19:17
Speaker 3: very public about how talented Juice of Dora is musically.
19:22
Speaker 3: I literally my my end of year Spotify in the
19:25
Speaker 3: last year, Juice of Dora was up there with Brandy
19:28
Speaker 3: and Beyonce in terms of how how many times I
19:32
Speaker 3: play the album. Juice of Dors Blues Will Talk's album
19:38
Speaker 3: I did it to me is.
19:42
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm gonna listen to a child.
19:43
Speaker 3: It's what I did it, and it's it's fan. It's fan, Clia.
19:48
Speaker 3: I'm actually wearing shorts. In case you were curious, I
19:50
Speaker 3: was like, claud.
19:53
Speaker 7: Came out, know draws.
19:59
Speaker 4: Short. It's like the two Crucid move some.
20:05
Speaker 7: We all suddenly started.
20:08
Speaker 6: Flood lately.
20:09
Speaker 2: Anyway, Claudia, Okay, So the thing.
20:15
Speaker 3: I agree, I think you can't deny Juice of Dora's musicality.
20:21
Speaker 3: You can't deny Kim and Show's musicality. I would me,
20:25
Speaker 3: Carlos King, I would have preferred that, uh, those two
20:30
Speaker 3: would have did what Meani did tomorrow, like two people
20:36
Speaker 3: everybody expected to be and Ninnie flipped and said, coming, girl, Yeah,
20:40
Speaker 3: we're gonna I'm gonna befriend you again. We don't know
20:43
Speaker 3: what happened. We haven't watched this season. I also agree
20:47
Speaker 3: with this. I don't like the pouncing on one person
20:52
Speaker 3: we're seeing down on Billy Hills with Amanda. We saw
20:55
Speaker 3: the States and Potomac. It's not good television. I hope
20:59
Speaker 3: that everybody is impounding on Drew. It doesn't make for
21:02
Speaker 3: good TV. I want I want unexpected beats. I'm not
21:06
Speaker 3: gonna name names until we watched the season. There are
21:09
Speaker 3: so many obvious people to beef with that it makes
21:13
Speaker 3: me bored when y'all let this one or two get
21:19
Speaker 3: away with everything, and y'all don't challenge them, and y'all
21:22
Speaker 3: don't y'all don't y'all.
21:24
Speaker 9: Don't do y'all don't do what Kenya Moore used to do.
21:28
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, which is, let let me
21:31
Speaker 9: spar with somebody that's unexpected, like to go for expected.
21:35
Speaker 3: To me, it is lazy. We haven't seen what happen yet.
21:38
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it. But I hope that
21:40
Speaker 3: everybody is not positive on juice. Dora's not what I want.
21:44
Speaker 8: To watch the season We almost got a new beef.
21:47
Speaker 8: We almost got a new beef today though, did y'all
21:49
Speaker 8: pep doing that Sherry interview when Sherry had made a
21:52
Speaker 8: yoda ling she was, she was like, she made a
21:54
Speaker 8: yodeling noise, like she was yolderling at referencing Kay Michelle.
21:58
Speaker 8: And then it was like a two second beat and
22:00
Speaker 8: came and Shell was like, and it's a real talent.
22:03
Speaker 4: Watch watch that part. Go back, y'all gonna make.
22:07
Speaker 7: Me turn to come you know, you know Sherry's sensitive.
22:09
Speaker 4: Tell me what they say in the comments too, but
22:11
Speaker 4: ship off again.
22:13
Speaker 6: I'm gonna read down againk.
22:15
Speaker 8: Michelle was Sherry Sheppard did imitated a yodeling noise, and
22:19
Speaker 8: she was referencing the fact that came Michelle can yodle,
22:22
Speaker 8: but I think came. Michelle was slick offended by it
22:25
Speaker 8: because literally it was like a two second beat and
22:27
Speaker 8: she was like, and it's.
22:28
Speaker 4: A real talent and you know that real come out.
22:33
Speaker 4: Just go back and watch that clip.
22:35
Speaker 7: Will because us to your point, She's very sensitive about
22:39
Speaker 7: how people don't put enough respect on how long she's
22:41
Speaker 7: been a cowgirl?
22:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, her actual roots.
22:46
Speaker 7: Yeah, she didn't get it from watching Beyonce. Like she
22:48
Speaker 7: really is a country girl. Who's proud about that. So
22:51
Speaker 7: if all the things for Chry to make fun of,
22:54
Speaker 7: and honestly, Sherry, you know again, Sherry is very sensitive
22:56
Speaker 7: because remember that one time Nia long Chin checked her
22:59
Speaker 7: and she cried about it for two weeks.
23:00
Speaker 4: I was there. Oh that was at the Fellow premiere.
23:04
Speaker 4: I was right there.
23:06
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, right, yeah, really said because Sherry looked very Okay, Okay,
23:17
Speaker 10: it isn't.
23:18
Speaker 3: Funny like you want to say who it was dusting that?
23:21
Speaker 3: M hm, that's her name, Ryan would be.
23:26
Speaker 4: I'll tell you later.
23:27
Speaker 8: But I ain't gonna do that ship for the you know.
23:34
Speaker 7: The chat, in the chat, I've been my part.
23:40
Speaker 3: Join the bag, baby, I'm but look, the thing is
23:45
Speaker 3: that I'm looking forward to Atlanta house Wise. It returns
23:48
Speaker 3: on Easter Sunday, April fifth, on brah Bo. Okay, speaking
23:55
Speaker 3: of Bravo, we have to see if these girls broke
24:01
Speaker 3: girl code Blue and Claudia and of course Dustin.
24:05
Speaker 2: I wanna get your thoughts too.
24:06
Speaker 3: So if you've been watching Maritime medicine this season, we
24:09
Speaker 3: all know that Quad was dating this man named King.
24:12
Speaker 2: They have recently broken up.
24:14
Speaker 3: We've learned they've broken up because King decided to reveal
24:19
Speaker 3: it first. I did an interview with Toya, Butch Harris
24:23
Speaker 3: and Eugene and Toya. My interview mentioned at her and
24:26
Speaker 3: Eugene still are friends with King despite the break of
24:30
Speaker 3: a Quad and that you know Eugene and King develop
24:34
Speaker 3: a friendship.
24:36
Speaker 2: So Dustin and Claudia over the weekend.
24:40
Speaker 3: I actually want to say, yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, Toya,
24:46
Speaker 3: Toya posted this.
24:48
Speaker 2: It's not like a fan watch saw it. Toya posted this,
24:53
Speaker 2: and I want to show it to you guys.
24:58
Speaker 3: Okay, So in this, Toya Bush Harris says, I just
25:07
Speaker 3: try to be nice and consistent to everybody.
25:11
Speaker 2: I know.
25:12
Speaker 3: It's messy af it is Toya and Simone with King
25:18
Speaker 3: at the Atlanta Hawks game. A lot of people have
25:25
Speaker 3: a lot of strong opinions on this.
25:27
Speaker 2: I want to start with the ladies, starting with you.
25:29
Speaker 3: Blue, did Toya as Simone break girl code? Because if
25:35
Speaker 3: you met this guy courtesy of me introducing him to you.
25:42
Speaker 7: And.
25:44
Speaker 3: Y'all are still friends with him, Toya says, she still
25:47
Speaker 3: follows King. Should Simone and Toya, out of solidarity for.
25:53
Speaker 2: Their friend, Quad, not befriend King any further.
26:00
Speaker 7: I think it's calculated, corny hater behavior. I think it's
26:04
Speaker 7: very transparent. It's not a Scooby Doo mystery. It was
26:07
Speaker 7: meant to be messy. Bro Like, I think you look
26:10
Speaker 7: stupid for you to sit there and put on that
26:13
Speaker 7: heavy fucking filter. Excuse me, sorry, let me kill for
26:16
Speaker 7: you to sit there and put on that heavy filter
26:18
Speaker 7: and smile next to this man, knowing what your girl
26:20
Speaker 7: has been through and how she wanted to have a
26:23
Speaker 7: child with him. They had a breakup. It's probably still painful.
26:25
Speaker 7: It's probably so fresh the public is just finding out
26:28
Speaker 7: about it. And if you do not just take the
26:29
Speaker 7: heavily filtered picture but post it with that caption. It's corny,
26:32
Speaker 7: it's transparent, it's dusty behavior. I don't think it's I
26:36
Speaker 7: don't even think it's debatable, to be perfectly honest, because
26:39
Speaker 7: it's not like they were torn because they had this deep,
26:41
Speaker 7: soul searching relationship with him and her and they didn't
26:44
Speaker 7: want to choose. There's an argument for that, right, they
26:47
Speaker 7: had a shallow Reality TV experience with him where they
26:51
Speaker 7: washed him run off Greg and he wouldn't go nowhere.
26:53
Speaker 7: And now he's left Claude, so now he's claud gets
26:56
Speaker 7: to use her mouths collateral damage. Right. I don't like
26:59
Speaker 7: it that picture was for Quad, and I actually have
27:02
Speaker 7: been in a situation where I stopped being friends with
27:04
Speaker 7: someone and they ran into my ex and I was
27:06
Speaker 7: later told by a third party that they wanted to
27:09
Speaker 7: get link up to take a picture despite me not knowing.
27:11
Speaker 7: I had to block both of them. You also performing
27:14
Speaker 7: for yourselves. I didn't buy tickets for the show, So
27:16
Speaker 7: as someone who's been that person who knows how dusties
27:19
Speaker 7: find each other in the dark to try to mess
27:21
Speaker 7: up your light, I think it's whack behavior. And it
27:24
Speaker 7: lets me know that you guys think about Quad. It
27:25
Speaker 7: she is a re free in your mind, miss Quad,
27:29
Speaker 7: Miss Quad, miss Quad.
27:30
Speaker 2: Still that girl, Claudia.
27:34
Speaker 6: You're not my friends.
27:36
Speaker 2: Yep, you're not.
27:37
Speaker 5: First of all, I don't fight anymore, but like that
27:42
Speaker 5: would make me feel like the urge, like you met
27:45
Speaker 5: him through me. This is not the first time y'all
27:48
Speaker 5: be a friend in an ex and then played in
27:50
Speaker 5: my face. That's where it's really like it ain't like
27:52
Speaker 5: a oh my bad. It's one thing if you were friends.
27:55
Speaker 5: I had friends that knew a guy before me, but
27:57
Speaker 5: when they saw how dirty he did me, they were like,
28:00
Speaker 5: I knew him longer, but I'm not messing with him
28:02
Speaker 5: on the strength of what he did to you. So no, like,
28:06
Speaker 5: I think this is mean toy and simoan, Like you
28:09
Speaker 5: knew what she was doing and you're on a TV show.
28:11
Speaker 6: You know the blogs are gonna pick it up. You're
28:13
Speaker 6: doing it for that.
28:14
Speaker 5: I know it's messy, but no, man, we're our friends,
28:16
Speaker 5: and next season I'm gonna make it very clear that
28:18
Speaker 5: I'm not your front if you do that, because you
28:21
Speaker 5: know all the the whether you like her or not.
28:23
Speaker 5: Like she's going through a public breakup after the failure
28:27
Speaker 5: to get pregnant and that's a sensitive time, and you're
28:30
Speaker 5: gonna take a picture with my op and all everyone's
28:33
Speaker 5: smiling and laughing, and then you know, again, it really.
28:36
Speaker 6: Pissed me on people do the things publicly.
28:38
Speaker 7: You can see him and.
28:38
Speaker 5: Be like, hey, what's up, man, Yeah, you know, come
28:40
Speaker 5: buy the house. Were having to cook ouh blah blah blah.
28:42
Speaker 6: But posting a picture in this day and age when
28:44
Speaker 6: everything all the blogs, you know, they're all watching, it's
28:46
Speaker 6: just it's just mean. I think it's mean. I think
28:49
Speaker 6: it's mean.
28:51
Speaker 8: Dustin They jealous of Choir got bigger balls than all
28:55
Speaker 8: of them. She was willing to leave her fucking her husband.
28:58
Speaker 8: She was willing to leave her husband and move on
29:00
Speaker 8: with her life. And that's something that they didn't have
29:03
Speaker 8: the hutzpa to do. Okay, we watched Simone and her husband, Cecil,
29:07
Speaker 8: have that breakdown live on the reunion. I believe it
29:10
Speaker 8: was season six or seven. One of them had that
29:13
Speaker 8: breakdown on the reunion stage. Came back together, beautiful moment.
29:17
Speaker 8: But Simone has been one to leave. She moved to
29:20
Speaker 8: the South House or the North House, whatever it was.
29:23
Speaker 8: She been wanted to get down, get on down the
29:25
Speaker 8: road from Cecil. She alluded to it again this season,
29:28
Speaker 8: and I think that there's something in her and Toya
29:31
Speaker 8: that is jealous of Quad's quest for independence and her
29:36
Speaker 8: win at that quest. Right, Quid ain't never needed a
29:39
Speaker 8: nigga for shit. She saved all her money when she
29:42
Speaker 8: was missed. She's talked about it openly, how she saved
29:44
Speaker 8: all her money from the show and invested it and
29:46
Speaker 8: put herself in a great position. She living just as
29:49
Speaker 8: good as them with that. And they're married to doctor
29:52
Speaker 8: Simone is a physician. Toya is married to a physician.
29:56
Speaker 8: Quad is keeping up by her damn self. Then she
29:59
Speaker 8: finds a man who actually is willing to love her
30:02
Speaker 8: in public. They have a good what we thought would
30:04
Speaker 8: looked like a good relationship at first. I think they
30:07
Speaker 8: wanted to see that shit fail. I think they care
30:09
Speaker 8: about Quid because they've been around each other for twelve
30:12
Speaker 8: years now. But there's a jealousy there because Quid has
30:15
Speaker 8: always been on her independent shit. She didn't want to
30:19
Speaker 8: give her ex husband a baby. That gave her hell
30:21
Speaker 8: for that. Maybe you need to think about having a baby,
30:24
Speaker 8: think about what he wants, all that other shit and
30:26
Speaker 8: now look, you know, she could have been stuck and
30:29
Speaker 8: linked tied to that motherfucker forever, you know. And like
30:32
Speaker 8: you said, there's a pattern here. They did it here
30:34
Speaker 8: and made us suffer.
30:36
Speaker 4: We was not.
30:36
Speaker 8: It was mighty bad years. The seasons we had to
30:39
Speaker 8: suffer through, Sweet Tea was it was hard for us
30:43
Speaker 8: and we had to experience that suffrage because of Toya
30:47
Speaker 8: and then wanting to be messy and bring her on
30:49
Speaker 8: the damn show.
30:50
Speaker 4: So this is a pattern.
30:52
Speaker 8: Even though Toya looked really pretty in that heavily filtered picture,
30:55
Speaker 8: that was a pretty picture of Toya.
30:59
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she looked really pretty. But that was messy.
31:03
Speaker 8: And now when Qui get on there next season, I
31:05
Speaker 8: don't want to hear nobody crying when Qui come on there,
31:08
Speaker 8: cussing them the fuck out, digging straight in their business.
31:10
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear Ship because this is the
31:14
Speaker 4: gateway right here. Qui was being fair in part one
31:18
Speaker 4: of the reunion.
31:19
Speaker 8: This this is that Toya started it, Toya and Simon
31:22
Speaker 8: because some on all that leaning in POKINGO, all that.
31:27
Speaker 4: That you don't have to do, all that you could
31:29
Speaker 4: have been like you know what I'm saying. It was
31:32
Speaker 4: leaning and Ship. They gonna pay for that.
31:34
Speaker 8: And I can't wait to see Qui tear they asses
31:37
Speaker 8: up next season.
31:37
Speaker 6: So that picture was for Quad, nobody else but quiet.
31:45
Speaker 7: Some hating ass tricks. I'm sorry. And to be that
31:48
Speaker 7: old and hate folk, I'm sorry. Once you let me
31:51
Speaker 7: let me breathe. I have a thing about people who
31:54
Speaker 7: hate to see other people when even when they're winning,
31:58
Speaker 7: we talk about soor losers we don't talk about sort them.
32:01
Speaker 7: Some people in this world. I hate that mean, nobody
32:03
Speaker 7: doing better than it's hating on you. Have you ever
32:05
Speaker 7: been to New York or LA. That's a lie. You're serious,
32:10
Speaker 7: that's a lie. Right, And so we don't talk about
32:13
Speaker 7: people who will have all the fact similes of success
32:15
Speaker 7: because they still have that hole inside of them. They're
32:18
Speaker 7: never satisfied that exists. People could be successful and still
32:21
Speaker 7: be hateful. This is a perfect example.
32:25
Speaker 4: Hopefully Quod is hateful next season, because.
32:30
Speaker 3: I think that's why I happened, the reason why I
32:32
Speaker 3: wanted to emphasize that.
32:33
Speaker 2: Look.
32:33
Speaker 3: Toya posted this on her own page mentioned I know
32:38
Speaker 3: it's messy, af I know Toya may not be the.
32:43
Speaker 2: Most championed person.
32:46
Speaker 3: I think Toya is playing a Reality Stars game. Yeah,
32:50
Speaker 3: and she's playing she's doing this. I think Toya is
32:52
Speaker 3: doing this for her content for next season. Quad is
32:56
Speaker 3: going to deliver to see Quad versus his toy. Yeah,
33:00
Speaker 3: both women who have the first chair after reunion with
33:04
Speaker 3: Claudia and Blows the first time that non doctors got
33:09
Speaker 3: first chair.
33:09
Speaker 2: After reunion of Wow.
33:12
Speaker 7: Jackie was probably putting in the bag.
33:15
Speaker 2: Sorry she didn't share a dressing room with some mom.
33:19
Speaker 8: But look I I wouldn't have either of that. Damn
33:22
Speaker 8: yelling shut up some I'm trying to put my dress on.
33:25
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't want it to
33:26
Speaker 4: be in there either.
33:28
Speaker 8: Simon, but you please shut the fuck. You know, Jackie
33:33
Speaker 8: probably would have told that. Should Jackie be touching backstage,
33:38
Speaker 8: I could have retired.
33:39
Speaker 7: I could have retired, but you couldn't, okay, because you
33:41
Speaker 7: have eighteen dependents.
33:42
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
33:45
Speaker 5: Sorry, cast over kids, castover kids, people.
33:52
Speaker 6: Trying to shame me.
33:53
Speaker 7: Oh you kids.
33:54
Speaker 6: Oh, I ain't gonna know that. How was Disneyland with
33:59
Speaker 6: your four breaths? I was a r at the Ritz?
34:03
Speaker 6: Okay anyway, sorry.
34:06
Speaker 3: Lord, go ahead, Okay, our last thing of the night
34:12
Speaker 3: before I'll let you all go at it. Enjoy the
34:14
Speaker 3: rest of your night, your cats, your food, your men,
34:17
Speaker 3: and your leftover It's okay.
34:19
Speaker 2: So the last thing is.
34:22
Speaker 3: Mariti Medicine Reunion. So listen, rain Drops go to Patreon.
34:25
Speaker 3: Me and Dusty recaptain Ty Reunion. I want to talk
34:28
Speaker 3: about this clip first. I can't show her for copyright reasons,
34:31
Speaker 3: but you guys watched it to Blue and Claudia it's
34:37
Speaker 3: Simone and Jackie. You know, this is a thirty year friendship.
34:41
Speaker 3: And Simone is pissed at Jackie because she felt that
34:45
Speaker 3: Jackie did not have her back against Doctor Heavenly and
34:49
Speaker 3: Simone is adamant that she cannot get past this. Do
34:54
Speaker 3: you think, Claudia that Simone is overreacting?
35:01
Speaker 2: I don't know.
35:03
Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember everything about that part. I was like, wait,
35:08
Speaker 6: why you go to me first? I might not myself
35:14
Speaker 6: to remind myself. See, I told you I have.
35:18
Speaker 7: She really has a notebook.
35:22
Speaker 3: To someone else, I will say this we on somebody else.
35:25
Speaker 3: You missed it earlier. Somebody in the chest said, thank you.
35:28
Speaker 3: You almost saved their life because they were able to
35:30
Speaker 3: get the lie bloods cells y.
35:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted. I wanted to make sure you knew that.
35:39
Speaker 3: All right, So as Claudia remembers, I'm gonna go to Blue, y'all.
35:44
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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I feel blusters.
36:05
Speaker 7: Yes, moisturizer, right, it smell like petroleum and bad credit. Yes,
36:10
Speaker 7: I feel like Doctor Jackie and Simona like the pink
36:12
Speaker 7: let's just pink moisturizer rendition of the Green Eyed Bandits.
36:16
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, the greed from the other potomac.
36:19
Speaker 7: I feel like where Gazelle finally spread her wings and
36:24
Speaker 7: let that lady go, and they did reasonably shady elsewhere,
36:27
Speaker 7: but on the franchise still for herself, we saw a
36:29
Speaker 7: different I think it was good for Gazelle. So in
36:31
Speaker 7: the same way, when if I think of that duo,
36:34
Speaker 7: I think of the pink, lusterous moisturizer. For some reason,
36:37
Speaker 7: those two are just like these two old friends who
36:41
Speaker 7: have bad habits, but they have lots of years, lots
36:44
Speaker 7: of love, lots of codependency, And I think I would
36:47
Speaker 7: actually like them individually better because they're like an echo
36:51
Speaker 7: chamber with each other. They tend to reward each other's
36:54
Speaker 7: bad behavior and do the whole mean Auntie thing where
36:57
Speaker 7: they're roasting people all you know, low dence, the hair
37:00
Speaker 7: just angry all the time, And so I personally would
37:03
Speaker 7: prefer if they broke up. I think the home per abandits.
37:07
Speaker 7: If they broke up, I think they'd be better people.
37:09
Speaker 7: I think they'd be kinder. I also think, just like
37:12
Speaker 7: we're seeing with Beverly Hills. By the way Carlos interview
37:15
Speaker 7: did with Amanda from Beverly Hills, I'm so happy you
37:17
Speaker 7: did that. Thank you, because the way the elders who
37:21
Speaker 7: I used to I love several people on that show,
37:24
Speaker 7: but the way they treated Amanda just showed me about
37:26
Speaker 7: this generational divide that happens when a certain old guard
37:30
Speaker 7: does not want to relinquish to the young girls, and
37:33
Speaker 7: how they're nasty elders. I'm bringing that up because it
37:35
Speaker 7: feels the same way with Simona Jackie.
37:37
Speaker 3: We do a whole episode about that, because it happens
37:40
Speaker 3: in this industry where the all guard does not want
37:42
Speaker 3: to relinquish the opportunities to the younger generation.
37:47
Speaker 2: Coming up. Sorry I am projecting, No, it's true.
37:50
Speaker 7: It's very true though, because the reason why I'm bringing
37:52
Speaker 7: that up is when they see the girls be healthier,
37:55
Speaker 7: they resent the health that they didn't know how to
37:56
Speaker 7: advocate for and when it was their turn to be young,
37:59
Speaker 7: and there's a resentment there that has them by the
38:01
Speaker 7: ankles again. And I just think that if they broke
38:04
Speaker 7: up as friends, they might have to figure out how
38:06
Speaker 7: to actually be hospitable and upgrade and maybe put away
38:09
Speaker 7: the moisturizer and go get a blowout Dominican Salona something child.
38:13
Speaker 7: The girls who know about black hair know what I
38:14
Speaker 7: mean when I say love them toity pink moisturize at home.
38:17
Speaker 2: From your understanding, no, I used it when I had
38:19
Speaker 2: hair back in the day.
38:20
Speaker 3: I don't get it, Okay, I know exactly what you're
38:24
Speaker 3: talking about, all right, dustin your thoughts.
38:28
Speaker 8: I I I hear you, Blue, I hear you.
38:33
Speaker 4: I hear where you're coming from.
38:35
Speaker 8: I think that in this case, also, Simone is very
38:40
Speaker 8: resentful of Jackie and Heavenly having a legitimate, actual friendship,
38:45
Speaker 8: because they do.
38:45
Speaker 4: They're actual, real friends.
38:47
Speaker 8: They talk daily on the phone, hang out all the
38:50
Speaker 8: time off camera, and they're an unlikely pair, which those
38:54
Speaker 8: are the sometimes the best, most fulfilling friendships. Right the
38:58
Speaker 8: motherfucker you didn't never thought you would have been cool with,
39:00
Speaker 8: they end up being your best friend and you're like, wow.
39:04
Speaker 8: And I think that the moment that doctor Jackie took
39:08
Speaker 8: Doctor Heavenly seriously and actually connected with her and became
39:13
Speaker 8: bessies with her.
39:15
Speaker 4: I think that Simon was.
39:18
Speaker 8: Affected by that, and I think that that's what we're seeing.
39:21
Speaker 8: Simon don't give a fuck about Heavenly saying she pushed her.
39:25
Speaker 4: That's just her.
39:26
Speaker 8: That's the device that she's using to force Doctor Jackie
39:30
Speaker 8: to pick a side in their friendship and take her
39:33
Speaker 8: side over Heavenly for once in her mind, you know.
39:35
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
39:37
Speaker 8: And I think that that that's the long and short
39:39
Speaker 8: of it. It's a lot of other shit there too,
39:41
Speaker 8: But I just think that she hates the fact that
39:43
Speaker 8: jack that Doctor Jackie actually loves Doctor Heavenly.
39:47
Speaker 7: But do's a actual question because I love that, you up,
39:49
Speaker 7: because they actually I love the girls who were mean
39:55
Speaker 7: back in the day are the same girls who would
39:58
Speaker 7: judge a Heavenly m right. Think about this, right, there's
40:01
Speaker 7: a certain respectability politics that Simone and Jackie have. In
40:04
Speaker 7: an echo chamber, Heavenly is seen as the hood ride
40:07
Speaker 7: who's called her husband Daddy all the time and running
40:09
Speaker 7: around and having no cuth and you know, just being
40:12
Speaker 7: a little bit on white fridge. She's been a little
40:14
Speaker 7: white white fridge in their eyes. For doctor Jackie the
40:17
Speaker 7: bougiest to be so cool with the country. You know,
40:22
Speaker 7: hey girl, hey one. I feel like some part of
40:24
Speaker 7: Simone's superiority complex is offended by that.
40:27
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
40:30
Speaker 7: I love is the girl who's my replacement.
40:32
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
40:34
Speaker 8: And it's crazy because Simone actually has a lot in
40:37
Speaker 8: common with Heavenly when it comes to their willingness to
40:40
Speaker 8: cross certain.
40:41
Speaker 7: Lines getto two friends respect.
40:43
Speaker 4: You know.
40:43
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, The best of us are,
40:46
Speaker 8: so I just feel like, you know, I feel like
40:49
Speaker 8: that's what this whole problem is. This is all Simone
40:52
Speaker 8: expressing that she don't want Doctor Jackie and Doctor Heavenly
40:55
Speaker 8: to be close friends, and she feels displaced by the
40:59
Speaker 8: authentic city of their friendship. It's one thing for Doctor
41:02
Speaker 8: Jackie to fuck around Doctor Heavenly on the show and shit,
41:05
Speaker 8: but the minute that that turned into a real, years
41:08
Speaker 8: long friendship to the point now where as you can see,
41:12
Speaker 8: Simone is literally crying on TV for Doctor Jackie to
41:16
Speaker 8: take her side over at Doctor Heavenly's side, but Heavenly.
41:19
Speaker 7: Defends her more. If I have a writer as a
41:22
Speaker 7: bougie girl who tends to have hood friends, I have
41:25
Speaker 7: a hood friend who has my back on some well,
41:28
Speaker 7: I'm giving my little EQ speeches. I'm gonna have her back.
41:31
Speaker 8: Back also blue, let's zoom out. Doctor Heavenly is funnier
41:35
Speaker 8: than Doctor Simone. While Doctor Simone is funny, doctor Heavenly
41:39
Speaker 8: is more funny. I know that doctor Jackie, who we've
41:42
Speaker 8: seen like to laugh for years.
41:44
Speaker 4: That's a little mess that she likes to laugh.
41:46
Speaker 8: They make good friends, and I think people just got
41:48
Speaker 8: to deal with that, you know what I'm saying. I
41:50
Speaker 8: actually think it's dope that they found a friendship like
41:52
Speaker 8: that in an unlikely setting.
41:55
Speaker 4: I think it's dope.
41:56
Speaker 8: And I think doctor Simone should just get with the
41:57
Speaker 8: program instead of trying to act like she had a
42:00
Speaker 8: Just get with the program, keep checking it like you've
42:03
Speaker 8: been doing. Just get with the program.
42:04
Speaker 5: That's easy, said thing down though, a girl. Friendships are
42:07
Speaker 5: so damn delicate, and if you need.
42:09
Speaker 4: To grow up, they stay sixty.
42:11
Speaker 8: But yeah, at point, but they become a woman in friendship.
42:18
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna listen.
42:20
Speaker 5: I'm fifty three years old, I'm about to be I've
42:22
Speaker 5: had this happen like recently, Like it doesn't ever go away.
42:25
Speaker 5: It's just a thing Like men, y'all can have fights,
42:28
Speaker 5: y'all can get into fist fights with each other, and
42:30
Speaker 5: y'all can play one game of basketball or dap each
42:32
Speaker 5: other up, and y'all get past it. With women, it
42:35
Speaker 5: could be so small as she looked at me, funny,
42:38
Speaker 5: I think she's shading me. And if you have a
42:40
Speaker 5: friend for thirty years and then she just gets super
42:42
Speaker 5: close to someone else, a lot of times, you feel
42:44
Speaker 5: like you're the odd man out. I used to call
42:45
Speaker 5: it being leap frog, Like if I introduce you to someone,
42:47
Speaker 5: then y'all end up getting super super close, and I'm
42:49
Speaker 5: like the odd.
42:50
Speaker 6: Man out or whatever.
42:51
Speaker 5: She's in her feelings about this, like she's not meaning
42:54
Speaker 5: simone is in her feelings about that.
42:56
Speaker 6: And it's super hard to it's super hard to come
42:59
Speaker 6: back from that.
43:00
Speaker 5: Like I know, it sounds like an immature thing, but
43:02
Speaker 5: it's still a thing that I see happen a lot. Right,
43:05
Speaker 5: It's hard to have a friendship with three people, It
43:07
Speaker 5: really really is.
43:08
Speaker 2: I do you know, you know what?
43:12
Speaker 7: Can we be honest? Can we all just be honest?
43:14
Speaker 7: If that man was cracking her back properly and her
43:16
Speaker 7: her son believe her credit card alone, she'd have a
43:18
Speaker 7: lot more grace for everybody else. This is to me,
43:20
Speaker 7: this is not even about the friendships. If she was
43:22
Speaker 7: happier at home, she wouldn't be so worried about aybody
43:24
Speaker 7: else's business and their friendships.
43:26
Speaker 5: No one likes to see someone that they're closed with,
43:28
Speaker 5: super close with someone else, someone that you look down upon.
43:34
Speaker 6: That part, so you're like, wait her, So yes, you
43:38
Speaker 6: know what I mean.
43:38
Speaker 11: So it's it's I do want to add this and listen,
43:42
Speaker 11: this is a on this panel because it's a balanced
43:46
Speaker 11: view between men and women. I do want to say
43:49
Speaker 11: this because I'm not a woman, and I'm not speaking
43:53
Speaker 11: on behalf of women when I say this, I'm speaking
43:55
Speaker 11: on behalf of somebody who grew up with sisters, who
43:59
Speaker 11: grew up being everybody's best friend, all the girls, right.
44:04
Speaker 11: And I grew up, obviously in this industry working on
44:07
Speaker 11: shows about women. So I would like to mention what
44:11
Speaker 11: I do see on the outside looking in when it
44:15
Speaker 11: comes to female relationships.
44:17
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of truth to what you
44:19
Speaker 3: guys are saying when it comes to.
44:23
Speaker 2: Female friendships.
44:24
Speaker 3: Whether you're ten, one hundred is very delicate because as
44:30
Speaker 3: much as let's be real here, right, We're gonna be
44:34
Speaker 3: real tonight. As much as y'all love to say as women, women.
44:38
Speaker 6: Support women, No, no, that's.
44:41
Speaker 3: That's that's okay, okay, okay, okay, that that that's that
44:44
Speaker 3: that's not the case. I recently watched Oprah Winfrey's interview
44:50
Speaker 3: with the woman who.
44:51
Speaker 2: Was caught on the kissing cam at the Coldplay concert.
44:54
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you watch an interview?
44:58
Speaker 6: Not all of it, but I've seen enough.
45:01
Speaker 3: I watched all fifty eight minutes of it, and the
45:04
Speaker 3: main not the main thing. One of the biggest things
45:07
Speaker 3: I extracted from that interview is when she said how
45:11
Speaker 3: it was women who attacked her the most, and the
45:15
Speaker 3: fact that that that not only happened amongst women. She'll
45:20
Speaker 3: be at the hotel with her daughter and women will
45:22
Speaker 3: go up point their fingerfits called her a whore.
45:25
Speaker 4: Right.
45:26
Speaker 3: The man who really lied to her about not being
45:33
Speaker 3: separated from his wife, he lied, She said, can you
45:36
Speaker 3: release a statement? He said no, because I lied to
45:38
Speaker 3: my wife. We're not mean I lie to you. Me
45:42
Speaker 3: and my wife aren't separated. Her husband released a statement
45:46
Speaker 3: saying we are separating me and this woman. She can
45:48
Speaker 3: do what she want to do. The gag is her
45:51
Speaker 3: husband was also at the Coplet concert on the date.
45:55
Speaker 3: My point is this, she said, this man got many
45:59
Speaker 3: offers for work.
46:01
Speaker 2: She hasn't worked since the Coplay concerts.
46:04
Speaker 3: And she said she was surprised that women were mean
46:07
Speaker 3: to her. So I said that to say the thing
46:11
Speaker 3: with female friendships, I do think you guys clocked it.
46:14
Speaker 2: You know, there is something very there's.
46:17
Speaker 3: A hierarchy when it comes to Simone and Jackie in Heavenly,
46:22
Speaker 3: they were the golden girls at some point.
46:25
Speaker 2: However, if you guys listen carefully.
46:28
Speaker 3: Simone does love to throw out their friend of thirty years,
46:33
Speaker 3: friend of thirty years meeting I've had you for thirty years.
46:36
Speaker 2: I do think you guys are on just something. You say,
46:39
Speaker 2: this woman who comes across a little bit.
46:41
Speaker 3: Uncouth, unsavory has now been somebody who you're more friends with,
46:48
Speaker 3: to the point where on Watch What Happens Live, you
46:52
Speaker 3: did not defend me in terms of saying Heavenly was wrong.
46:58
Speaker 3: And I do want you guys to really just go
47:00
Speaker 3: in on the fact that when it comes to female relationships,
47:04
Speaker 3: why is this so sensitive and why is it that
47:07
Speaker 3: women are in competition with other.
47:09
Speaker 7: Women very simply. I just want to make sure the
47:13
Speaker 7: word women is being panned out. Insecure women are have
47:17
Speaker 7: delicate relationships. Women who are not secure are always going
47:22
Speaker 7: to be delicate to deal with because misogyny, society, patriarchy, whatever,
47:26
Speaker 7: has already told them that there's not enough space for
47:28
Speaker 7: all of us and there has to be a hierarchy.
47:30
Speaker 7: So women who are uninvolved, women who are insecure, women
47:32
Speaker 7: who are emotionally delicate are always going to be combative
47:36
Speaker 7: in that way. In the same way, if you see
47:37
Speaker 7: two black people at Harvard, they might have some beef
47:40
Speaker 7: as well because they're dealing from the same lack of insecurity.
47:42
Speaker 7: For me and I can only speak for me, and
47:44
Speaker 7: I feel like that's the one Dustin talks about his
47:46
Speaker 7: healthy queer relationships and we're like, oh, that's the thing. Okay,
47:48
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say this right now. I don't have any
47:50
Speaker 7: of this in my female friendships because I am a
47:54
Speaker 7: secure lone wolf who tends to befriend other secure lone
47:58
Speaker 7: wolves who are independent thinkers. Are female friendships mimic more
48:01
Speaker 7: which y'all think are masculine friendships, because the kind of
48:04
Speaker 7: woman who can be my friend has to be somebody
48:06
Speaker 7: who knows Blue's not gonna buy her tongue, and she
48:08
Speaker 7: thinks you want some bullshits, She's gonna tell you. We
48:10
Speaker 7: used to seeing that with men. But I'm a woman
48:11
Speaker 7: who does it, and I only have friends with other
48:13
Speaker 7: women who do that. And so when you're dealing with
48:15
Speaker 7: secure women, to Claudia's point, the reason why Claudia can
48:18
Speaker 7: be a girl's girls because Claudia has her own shit
48:19
Speaker 7: going on. Claudia has already been through the LIGs. She's
48:22
Speaker 7: already learned how to have grace for herself so she
48:24
Speaker 7: can give grace to others. She's already learned how to
48:26
Speaker 7: make money in her own so she's not hating on
48:27
Speaker 7: anybody else. When you meet securely attached women, the relationships
48:31
Speaker 7: actually aren't delicate. We're talking about insecure women. Of course,
48:34
Speaker 7: insecure women have insecure relationships. I think that's gender neutral, right,
48:38
Speaker 7: But because we socialize it, because we socialize it to
48:40
Speaker 7: be a woman thing, and unlike men, women actually do
48:43
Speaker 7: have to worry about the lack because there really is
48:45
Speaker 7: only three spots. Sometimes we didn't make that up. That's
48:48
Speaker 7: actually patriarchy, right. We have less grace to give because
48:50
Speaker 7: we're lower on the food chain, And so my thing is,
48:53
Speaker 7: rather than being worried about how women's friendships are, what
48:56
Speaker 7: kind of women do you align with? If you are
48:58
Speaker 7: hating as bitch who has problems at home, and you
49:01
Speaker 7: hate your home life and your entire identity is me
49:04
Speaker 7: and you being mean girls, so superior to others. Of
49:06
Speaker 7: course you're gonna fit away when I humanize the riff
49:09
Speaker 7: raft that you thought was beneath us, right, because you
49:11
Speaker 7: were already like that before the riff rash showed up.
49:14
Speaker 7: But if you like yourself, then it's easier for us
49:16
Speaker 7: to bring other people into the frame. And so, yes,
49:18
Speaker 7: insecure women, I cannot be friends with women who are insecure.
49:21
Speaker 7: But if you are a woman who really likes themselves,
49:23
Speaker 7: which is probably why I have so many aries female friends,
49:25
Speaker 7: women who like themselves don't have these problems, respectfully, And
49:29
Speaker 7: you're telling yourselves if your female friendships are delicate, your
49:32
Speaker 7: female friends are delicate, and that's the real issue.
49:35
Speaker 2: Claudia.
49:38
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thinking about my friend Zuka right now. When
49:42
Speaker 6: I lose a.
49:42
Speaker 5: Friend, my non ho friend Annie, I don't lose a
49:48
Speaker 5: lot of female friends, and when I do, it's a
49:50
Speaker 5: big deal for me. I'm like, damn, how is I wrong?
49:52
Speaker 5: Because I love going out with like a bo a
49:55
Speaker 5: mask peup of women. Everyone's holding their own knowns, tripping
49:58
Speaker 5: you're getting only guys are talking to year you are.
50:00
Speaker 5: They're all that nonsense. There's none of that. Everyone had,
50:04
Speaker 5: everyone got it going on, And yeah, I don't really
50:07
Speaker 5: have these kind of problems.
50:08
Speaker 6: It's usually like a new friend. Yeah, I I agree
50:12
Speaker 6: with a lot of stuff that Blue set about that.
50:15
Speaker 5: Uh, But a lot of times they're just not happy
50:17
Speaker 5: at the crib or they live in a fake life.
50:19
Speaker 5: I had a friend that had false security, right, and
50:21
Speaker 5: someone said her name in the chat. They said, I
50:23
Speaker 5: see you don't hang with that girl that was meting
50:25
Speaker 5: with that guy's husband. I mean that girl's husband. Yes,
50:28
Speaker 5: I don't hang with that girl anymore. I don't hang
50:30
Speaker 5: with the mistress because I clocked I found ou who
50:33
Speaker 5: she really was. I don't hang with her anymore. You're right,
50:36
Speaker 5: y'all clocked it because she was she had Oh yeah,
50:40
Speaker 5: she had fake confidence.
50:42
Speaker 2: Right.
50:42
Speaker 5: You have a friend that's like they have the look,
50:44
Speaker 5: they have the bags, they have the things, and they
50:47
Speaker 5: you think they have confidence, but they really are not
50:49
Speaker 5: happy because at the end of the day, they're fucking
50:50
Speaker 5: some old guy. They can't stand right, and so to
50:54
Speaker 5: fund said fake lifestyle, and those were the biggest haters
50:58
Speaker 5: amongst the group, them fake secure women. And those were
51:00
Speaker 5: the same ones that have women's comment brunches and be like, oh,
51:05
Speaker 5: it's women's empowerment brunch, and you be the biggest haters
51:08
Speaker 5: because it's like a fake it's that fake confidence.
51:11
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't hang with those girls anymore.
51:13
Speaker 2: All right, final word from Dustin.
51:16
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Keep your circle small, keep
51:19
Speaker 8: them snake ass motherfuckers around from you, you know what
51:21
Speaker 8: I'm saying, And watch your back. You know me personally,
51:25
Speaker 8: I like peace. I like positive people around me. Were
51:29
Speaker 8: gonna laugh and have a good time. But I don't
51:31
Speaker 8: be around no.
51:31
Speaker 4: Fucked up ass people that I gotta watch my back around,
51:34
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
51:35
Speaker 8: So like I've been, I'm grateful to hear stories about
51:39
Speaker 8: I'm grateful to not have experienced some of the things
51:42
Speaker 8: that I hear people experience in friendship.
51:44
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
51:45
Speaker 8: I cherish my friendships and I ride about mine and
51:49
Speaker 8: I haven't had no snakes like that around me. Thank god.
51:51
Speaker 8: You know, I stay woke and keep my head on swivel.
51:54
Speaker 8: But I'm around good people. So I like all my
51:59
Speaker 8: friends winning. I like being around a bunch of winners,
52:02
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. I like it to be
52:03
Speaker 8: more than one person. Like we all are successful in
52:06
Speaker 8: our own right. We're all close to each other in
52:08
Speaker 8: our own ways. It's cool for us to have individual
52:10
Speaker 8: relationships amongst the group. I'm with all that, So I
52:14
Speaker 8: don't know, it's just, you know, when it comes to friendship,
52:17
Speaker 8: you know, taking it off because I definitely can't speak
52:18
Speaker 8: to women's friendships, but just speaking of friendship, like, that's
52:22
Speaker 8: how I like to row.
52:23
Speaker 3: So Rain Johns let us know in the comments. And
52:27
Speaker 3: again the full a Maritime Medicine recaps on my Patreon
52:30
Speaker 3: Claudia Dusted Blue. I love you guys some much beat
52:33
Speaker 3: up for this and I'll see you guys on the
52:36
Speaker 3: next one.
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Speaker 4: Bye y'all,