Latest / Spotlight English: Advanced / Living without Time: Michel Siffre and the Internal Clock (Advanced Program)
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- 0:02Welcome to Spotlight Advanced. I'm Marina Sante and I'm Patrick Woodward. Spotlight uses
- 0:09a special English method of broadcasting. It is easier for people to understand no
- 0:14matter where in the world they live. A group of people crowd around a
- 0:29large hole in a rock. A rope hangs down into the hole. Soon
- 0:34the rope moves. A man comes out of the hole, wearing a hard
- 0:38hat and climbing equipment. The man in the hard hat has his arm around
- 0:43another man. The first man moves very weakly and he is only just able
- 0:49to climb. He closes his eyes as he enters into the light. It
- 0:53is too bright for him. He has not seen the sun for six months.
- 0:59This man's name is Michel Siffe. He is a French geologist. A
- 1:03geologist is a person who studies the earth. But today Sife is not studying
- 1:08the earth. Instead, he is studying how people experience time. Sife locked
- 1:15himself away under the ground for half a year. He did not have clocks,
- 1:19he did not have the sun to tell him when to sleep. He
- 1:23slept as long as he needed, and he stayed awake as long as he
- 1:26wanted. The experiment was very bad for him, It troubled him a lot,
- 1:33but while living underground, Michele Siffe discovered something very important, the internal
- 1:38clock. Today's spotlight is on Michell Sife and the internal clock. Sief did
- 1:47not train to study how people experienced time. Instead, Sieff went to school
- 1:52to be a geologist. As a young man, he explored underground and studied
- 1:57different kinds of rocks but wonder In nineteen sixty two, seef explored a cave
- 2:02that would change his life. He had discovered an underground glacier. The glacier
- 2:07was in the French Alps. He was supposed to lead a trip to the
- 2:12mountains to study the glacier. The trip was to take fifteen days, but
- 2:16Siefe did not believe that this was enough time. He decided that he would
- 2:21go for two months instead, and as an experiment, he would go without
- 2:25bringing a clock. He would live in the cave alone. His goal was
- 2:30to have no connection to time passing in the outside world. He wanted to
- 2:35see what his body would do. Joshua Foeher is a writer. He spoke
- 2:39to Michelle sief about his experiment. Seif said, I invented a simple scientific
- 2:46method. I put a team at the opening of the cave. I decided
- 2:52I would call them when I got up, when I ate, and just
- 2:54before I went to sleep. My team did not have the right to or
- 3:00me. I would have no idea what time it was. The cave was
- 3:08not a great place to live, living near a glacier. See If was
- 3:13often wet. His body temperature would get very low. It would go as
- 3:17low as thirty four degrees celsius. He also did not have much to do.
- 3:23He studied the glacier, He read his books and wrote in his journal,
- 3:27but there was no one to talk to. He lived by himself and
- 3:30lost all sense of time. See If told Joshua Foreua, there were two
- 3:36tests I did every time I called the surface. First, I checked my
- 3:40heart beat. Second, there was a mental test. I had to count
- 3:46from one to one hundred twenty. I counted at a rate of one number
- 3:51each second. With that test, we made a great discovery. It took
- 3:55me five minutes to count to one hundred twenty. In other words, I
- 4:01experienced five real minutes as if they were only two minutes. When two months
- 4:08had passed, Siefe's team called him. They told him it was time to
- 4:13leave. Seefe was very confused. He was supposed to leave on the fourteenth
- 4:17of September, but he believed that it was only the twentieth of August.
- 4:23He had lost twenty five days. But Sefe also discovered something even more amazing.
- 4:30He discovered that each of us has an internal clock. This clock tells
- 4:34our bodies when to sleep and get up. Usually, we sleep and get
- 4:39up because of light from the sun, we live in a twenty four hour
- 4:43sleep cycle. Sefe also lived in a cycle, but his sleep cycle was
- 4:48twenty four and one half hours long. This proved that the sun was not
- 4:53the only thing organizing sleep. Instead, humans have a natural cycle without the
- 4:59sun. We sleep and get up when our bodies tell us to. Siff
- 5:03knew that what he had discovered was very important, so he devoted his life
- 5:09to studying this eternal body clock. In fact, he is considered the father
- 5:14of the new field of study called chron biology. Chron Biology studies how these
- 5:18internal cycles of time affect both mind and body. He performed many other experiments.
- 5:25In some he sent other people into caves. They also stayed for months.
- 5:30These people had different sleep cycles than Sief did. Instead, they developed
- 5:35forty eight hour cycles. They would stay awake for thirty six hours, then
- 5:41they would sleep for twelve This meant that each person's sleep cycle was different,
- 5:46and most are longer than twenty four hours. These experiments were very important at
- 5:51the time. Countries had just begun to send people into space, but no
- 5:57one knew how going to space would change people. They did not know how
- 6:00it would affect sleep. Being alone in a cave is a little like being
- 6:05alone in space, so people going to space could prepare better for the effects
- 6:11of traveling in space on their bodies. Then, in nineteen seventy two,
- 6:16Sieff decided to do another experiment on himself. He would go down into a
- 6:23cave again. He was older and he wanted to study how this changed the
- 6:27results, but he also wanted to stay underground longer. He would live in
- 6:31the cave for six months. Thief's six months underground affected him very differently than
- 6:39before. Two months underground did not change him much, but the six months
- 6:44caused him great mental disturbance. He began to fear the fungus that grew on
- 6:49the cave walls. He feared he would catch diseases from the cave dust,
- 6:55and he felt extremely sad. Once he was so lonely that he tried to
- 7:00befriend a mouse. He tried to catch the mouse so he would have something
- 7:03living to talk to, but he was not able to He killed the mouse
- 7:08by accident. This made him so sad he thought about taking his own life,
- 7:14but he continued with his experiments. He did not give in to his
- 7:17sadness. By the end, he could only say a few words and it
- 7:23was very difficult to think. Sef had everything he needed to survive, but
- 7:30without others, his mind stopped working well. Sief's experience damaged his mind,
- 7:40but this experiment was a success. His discoveries helped inform scientists how sleep works,
- 7:46and he helped confirm the importance of physical touch. Being touched by other
- 7:51people is not just nice, It is important to survive. People can survive
- 7:57without other people for a long time, but it can be dangerous to their
- 8:01health. After his six months stay, Sief stopped his experiments for eight years.
- 8:07He moved away from his home in France and divorced his wife. His
- 8:13time in the cave changed him. He needed time to recover. Soon though,
- 8:18Sief began experimenting again, and today he is one of the most well
- 8:24known people who study time. His experiments are still the only ones of their
- 8:28kind. Franz Halberg is a professor at the University of Wisconsin. He also
- 8:35studies how we experience time. In nineteen eighty eight, he spoke to the
- 8:39Los Angeles Times about Sife. He said, some people think he's a bad
- 8:45boy, but Sief does what no one else will do. He has by
- 8:50far the longest records of people being alone. Others who have studied similar things
- 8:56have done it for weeks. He has done it for months. Would you
- 9:01live by yourself for two months? What about six months? Why? Or
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- 9:31and producer of this program was Dan Christman. The voices you heard were from
- 9:35the United Kingdom. All quotes were adapted for this program and voice by Spotlight.
- 9:41You can listen to this program again and read it on the internet at
- 9:45www dot Radio English dot net. This program is called Living Without Time,
- 9:52Michelle Siefe and the internal clock. We hope you can join us again for
- 9:56the next Spotslight program. Goodbye du