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- 0:00Welcome to Buck Guys tomorrow morning for Monday, February twelfth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game in two hundred and one days, the
- 0:06game against Michigan in two hundred and ninety two days. Season still two hundred
- 0:11days away, but gambling season, well, that has already started around college
- 0:15football. Some of the very early lines on some of the big games of
- 0:19the year are out. Some of the over unders on teams are out.
- 0:23From the national Championship odds are out. Just kind of an interesting way,
- 0:27you know, you don't have to put any money down, just kind of
- 0:30more of an interesting way to look at some expectations around this year's season.
- 0:35Buck Guys, looking like they, you know, the gambling lines seem to
- 0:39be matching a lot of the expectations I think around this year's Ohio State team.
- 0:43I'm going to bring our buddy, Tony Gerdman of Bucky Huddle dot com.
- 0:46If you talk about all of that stuff, Tony, let's start with
- 0:49some of the big ten over unders. These come from Fan Duel and just
- 0:52sort of just sort of to frame our conversation here. These are regular season
- 0:57over unders. So when we say Ohio State is the over unders ten and
- 1:00a half wins. That is ten and a half out of the twelve regular
- 1:03season games, not including the Big Ten championship game, not including college football
- 1:07playoff games, just those twelve regular season games. So, Tony, the
- 1:11Big Ten list starts with Ohio State at ten and a half, Oregon at
- 1:15ten and a half, Michigan at nine and a half, penn State at
- 1:18nine and a half, and then it drops down to USA, Washington,
- 1:21Nebraska, Iowa, Maryland all at seven and a half, the bottom of
- 1:25the ladder Minnesota and Purdue at four and a half. Is there anything on
- 1:30here that jumps out to you as boy, that's kind of a surprising or
- 1:36intriguing number. Well, I think it's always surprising to see Ohio State having
- 1:42or somebody having the same number as Ohio State that isn't Michigan, because we
- 1:47don't get to see that very often. So for Oregon at Ohio State to
- 1:51both be ten and a half is just it's interesting to me. But the
- 1:55first time I saw this, the thing that jipped out to me was Michigan
- 1:57at nine and a half because everything going on right now at Michigan and the
- 2:02unknowns of what the offense is going to look like and what the coaching staff
- 2:06is going to look like. Nine and a half just feels alike a lot
- 2:10and not a lot by a lot. But I feels like I would prefer
- 2:15the under on that one. They do play Texas this year, that game
- 2:21is at home, but they go to Ohio State, they of course will
- 2:24play They'll host Oregon as well. So like, those are three really difficult
- 2:30games, and yeah, you get two of them at home, but you're
- 2:32going to be underdogs and likely all three of those games. So they would
- 2:37have to win one of those and not lose any others. And really,
- 2:40I just think there are so many unknowns right now that that's may be the
- 2:45all of the others, the any others. That is the biggest fly in
- 2:50this nine and a half ointment here. Yeah, that one jumped out to
- 2:54me as well, because, as you said, they go to Ohio State,
- 2:58they play Oregon at home. Home, they play Texas at home.
- 3:00Those are three of probably like the top five six teams in the country.
- 3:07And if you lose it throws three games, you can go nine to zero
- 3:08and the rest of them you're still under You still have to go you have
- 3:13a game at Washington, which Washington is not going to be what they were
- 3:16this past year. But I don't think Michigan's could be what they were this
- 3:20past year either. You got USC at home. It just it feels like
- 3:23that one is likely to go under. The Oregon one is intriguing as well.
- 3:30The Ducks. All you got to do is find two losses on the
- 3:32schedule. They have Ohio State at home. One of those teams is going
- 3:36to lose that game. They go to Michigan, they go to Wisconsin.
- 3:38They've got Washington at home. You know that that feels like that could be
- 3:44an under. Ohio State has a tricky schedule too. Got at Oregon,
- 3:47you got at Penn State, you got Michigan at home. You know,
- 3:52I think you could see any of those teams. I don't think any of
- 3:54those teams are guaranteed to go over by any means. It is, you
- 4:00know, and you know, is this the year that Penn State finally puts
- 4:02it all together? It feels like every year we think, oh this is
- 4:05you know, certainly, certainly this will be the year that happens. Penn
- 4:09State at nine and a half. They have to go to USC, they
- 4:12have to go to Wisconsin. They have Ohio State at home, they have
- 4:15Washington at home. I think my big takeaway from all of this, more
- 4:19than anything else other than I'm right there with you on Michigan going under is,
- 4:24boy, the schedules in the Big Ten all of a sudden, this
- 4:29is this is no longer a two game season for anyone. This is you
- 4:31know, you have like half of your league games. Are you know,
- 4:35We'll see how good Washington is this year, We'll see how good USC is
- 4:40this year. But you got some big names on your schedule, making up
- 4:43like half of your Big Ten schedule. Yeah, for sure. And even
- 4:47though you might have a little dip for Washington or USC, there's still a
- 4:54considerable amount of talent there compared to like going to Bloomington or something like that.
- 5:00It's going to be a step up for much of your schedule. And
- 5:04when I was thinking that, I would probably go Ohio State and Oregon.
- 5:09I'd take both of those overs, which seems like kind of dangerous to take
- 5:14two overs like that when they play each other, and so you're guaranteed there's
- 5:18gonna be one loss in there somewhere. But when you look at that Oregon
- 5:23schedule, I mean it's it's pretty favorable, but you do have a stretch
- 5:30where you go to Michigan, then you've got Maryland at home, but then
- 5:33you go to Wisconsin, and then you have a week off and you've got
- 5:36Washington at home. So there are definitely opportunities for tripping up. Would it
- 5:45just be safer just to take all of the unders at this point because I'll
- 5:47tell you another one, Tom that i Nebraska is seven and a half.
- 5:53They've got a pretty good schedule, as I scrambled to find it up rather
- 6:00but what they don't have is, you know, I'm trying to think who
- 6:03is their quarterback? You know, and I went to the porter, like
- 6:05who did they get? Who did they get? It's like, oh,
- 6:09Dylan Reola. So if you've got a true freshman quarterback like they have Colorado
- 6:15at home? Is that? How are you feeling about that one right now?
- 6:19When Colorado is gonna have some more experience than the Nebraska. But it's
- 6:24it's in Lincoln. You know, Nebraska's road schedule, they do go to
- 6:29Ohio State, they do go to usc but they've got Wisconsin at home.
- 6:32They do have to go to Iowa at the end of the season, they
- 6:35go to Purdue. What is Purdue right now? But my question is how
- 6:41much can you rely on a true freshman quarterback if he is winning the job,
- 6:46Because eight wins at Nebraska would be a good thing on a normal year
- 6:51at this point, and now you're talking about this normal year being oh,
- 6:57maybe a true freshman quarterback. When they do start relatively slowly, They've got
- 7:02Utep at home, Colorado at home, we'll see what Colorado is this year,
- 7:08then Northern Iowa, then Illinois at home at Purdue Perdues over under is
- 7:13only four and a half. Then they have Rutgers at home, then you
- 7:15go to Indiana. That gets you through October nineteenth. I mean, it
- 7:18is not out of the realm of possibility. They could start seven and oh
- 7:23the over under is only seven and a half at Ohio State, Ucla at
- 7:28USC, Wisconsin at Iowa to wrap the season. So you know, even
- 7:31if you're six and one, you're still probably sweating that out. Because I
- 7:35don't know, other than Ucla at home, I don't know that I'm feeling
- 7:39tremendous about any of those for Nebraska. It also made me think, Tony,
- 7:44you look at the Texas on Michigan schedule starting this you know, the
- 7:47second game of the season against Texas. With as challenging as the conference schedule
- 7:51is going to be. Got to remember this time next year, Texas is
- 7:56coming to Ohio Stadium in twenty twenty five. That is going to be you
- 8:00know those non conference, big, big non conference games. You wonder how
- 8:05long now those kind of series are going to last, with as challenging as
- 8:09those games are, because twenty twenty five, this is not this year,
- 8:11this is next year. Ohio State has Texas at home, they have to
- 8:15go to Michigan, they have Penn State at home, they have to go
- 8:18to Washington, they have to go to Wisconsin. They're I mean, that's
- 8:22like half of your schedule being pretty challenging. So that'll be interesting to see
- 8:26how long those kind of series last. Let's talk Tony quickly about a couple
- 8:31of the individual games on the Buckeye schedule with some intriguing early point spreads.
- 8:35They've only released like a dozen I think early point spreads. This was from
- 8:39sports betting dot ag Oregon currently a one and a half point favorite against Ohio
- 8:45State. Ohio State a six and a half point favorite over Michigan. Is
- 8:50there one of those lines that jumps out to you one way or the other.
- 8:54I think the Oregon line is it just gets to your tension because Ohio
- 9:01State is an underdog against again somebody that isn't Michigan, and so you have
- 9:05to For me, it's like, oh, yeah, that's right. Oregon
- 9:07is done. It's finally happening. They are coming to the big ten.
- 9:11This is real. And you know we were supposed to go to Oregon,
- 9:16to travel to Oregon a few years back and didn't happen. Now this is
- 9:20like a legit thing. And you know they replaced bo Nicks with Dylan Gabriel.
- 9:26I don't well see how how effective that is, But like, Oregon
- 9:31is real, and so you know, being a one and a half point
- 9:35underdog, I'd be interested to see how long it stays that way or which
- 9:39way it goes. Did the six and a half feel a little low for
- 9:43you, though? Tom? I have been saying for a couple months now,
- 9:48even going back to the middle of last fall, if you can find
- 9:54a Michigan fan who's willing to give you, or who willing to take ten
- 9:56points or even fourteen points for the twenty twenty four Ohio State Michigan game.
- 10:01You should seek them out and you should seek to uh reach an agreement with
- 10:05them because it just I think this is going to be a real step back
- 10:09year for Michigan. And this is a year where it feels like a lot
- 10:13of stuff is lining up for Ohio State to have a pretty good year.
- 10:16Yeah, I think the Oregon line. I think you could see that either
- 10:20way. You know, Autsin Stadium is a difficult place to play. You
- 10:24know, there's a crown on the field there, Tony, there's a little
- 10:26deep cut for you. So that's uh gotta watch, got to watch out
- 10:30for the crown on the field. Also the crowd noise there. But that's
- 10:33a that that is a team that is you know there. You think of
- 10:37them as the cutesy little uh you know, they've got their they've got the
- 10:39cute little uniforms and they run the little It's like no, no, no,
- 10:43no, no, they Dan Landing is going to mash your face it
- 10:45and that is not this is not the old Oregon football team. I think
- 10:48that's gonna be a real challenging one for Ohio State. The Michigan game.
- 10:52Yeah, but you and I again I think everyone listening to this and going,
- 10:54oh, of course they're gonna pick Ohio to be a Michigan. Yeah,
- 10:58Tony and I both pick Michigan to beat Ohio State last year. Don't
- 11:01worry, we will tell you what we think. I think Ohio State is
- 11:03going to kick Michigan's face in this year. That's what I There, you
- 11:05go, I have said it out loud. We will find out in what
- 11:09two hundred and ninety two hundred and ninety two days, whether or not I
- 11:13am correct. Finally, Tony, let's just hit on a couple of the
- 11:18National Championship odds. Georgia the favorite at plus three hundreds. You can get
- 11:22three to one on Georgia, Ohio State plus five hundred, five to one
- 11:26odds there Texas plus seven hundred, Alabama plus eleven hundred. If you can
- 11:31short that one, I would be I would advise you to if you can
- 11:35find a place to take the other side of that action, you might want
- 11:37to look into that one. Oregon plus twelve hundred, LSU plus thirteen hundred.
- 11:43I mean you get of the what five top teams there on the National
- 11:48Championship odds, Michigan plays three of them. And again they're over under for
- 11:52the season is nine and a half. So you want to know why we're
- 11:54saying that the under on Michigan. There's a lot of your answer, any
- 12:00anything jump out to you there. I like Texas, but then you look
- 12:05at their schedule and really, at this point, all you have to do
- 12:07is win ten games, don't don't lose more than three there, don't lose
- 12:11three, and you're probably gonna be in if you're a big school. But
- 12:16you know, they do. They go to Michigan this year, They of
- 12:20course play Oklahoma, they host Georgia, they they play Florida, they're at
- 12:26Texas, A and M. And then they also have to go to Arkansas
- 12:30just for you know s's and g's. Like, that's a that's a difficult
- 12:35schedule. And so to have them as the third best, I think that
- 12:37says a lot about obviously quin yours they're you know, very very good this
- 12:43year. I am that Oregon one is that seems like you know what,
- 12:50I got twenty throw down, see what happens. Because they're they're good,
- 12:54They're gonna be one of the top teams in a nation. They'll be battle
- 12:58tested by that point, and you know, a year ago a lot this
- 13:03time we were when it was like the top four or whatever, and for
- 13:07the past couple of years you say, just give me the top four.
- 13:09You can have the field like we would have gotten that when wrong last year
- 13:13because Michigan was not in that top four. I feel less great about this
- 13:18top four than previous top fours. I'd say, well, you got to
- 13:22remember, with twelve teams in there, all you got to do is get
- 13:26in. And if Oregon is a ten and a half, you know,
- 13:28ten and a half is there over under on wins. That's the that's Vegas
- 13:33kind of telling you they're expecting them to be in the Big Ten Championship Game,
- 13:35which means they're you know, if it's Oregon and Ohio State are essentially
- 13:41you know, even in terms of over under, those are the ones that
- 13:45are favored to make the Big Ten Championship Game. If it's a one and
- 13:48a half point line on Oregon Ohio State in Austin, well that means Ohio
- 13:54State's probably about a point and a half favorite on a neutral field. That's
- 13:56pretty much a coin flip, which means organ and basically being a essentially a
- 14:01coin flip to make the you know, be one of the top four seeds,
- 14:05probably the probably the two seed there. Then you're in the then you're
- 14:09in pretty good spot to make a run. So yeah, that that's an
- 14:11interesting one, just in terms of, uh, you know, not that
- 14:15they're a favorite, but just like there might be some value there. The
- 14:18other thing that jumps out to me Tony Georgia, Ohio State, Texas,
- 14:20Alabama, Oregon, l s U. Which is your favorite team among that
- 14:26top six most likely win the national championship? That's not from the SEC and
- 14:28the Big Ten. Uh well, let me let me look at this one.
- 14:35Yeah, that's a good question. Who who is the the non Florida
- 14:43State Clemson? I mean, that's just the the old standbys. Like what
- 14:46else is yeah it I mean we talk about this as the power too,
- 14:52and you know it's sort of shaping up to be the SEC and the Big
- 14:56Ten sort of taking over college football. It you look at that and it's
- 14:58like, boy, that might you might not be talking about that in the
- 15:03future tents as much as you are in the present tents. If this plays
- 15:07out the way the way Vegas is expecting it to, and that is obviously
- 15:11never a guarantee. We'll see what Florida State or Clemson or I don't know.
- 15:18TCU made the National Championship Game just a year ago, so you never
- 15:22know, but we'll see. We'll see how this season all plays out.
- 15:26But should be should be, you know, I mean Vegas. Vegas seems
- 15:30to agree with our general consensus that Ohio State should be pretty good this year,
- 15:33So it might be an interesting season. If you were an high state
- 15:35football fan, you might want to just kind of pay attention this year.
- 15:39You might watch team win a few games. So wouldn't that be a fun
- 15:41and different experience for o High state football fans watching their team win a few
- 15:46games. So we will be covered. We will be there for all those
- 15:48games, including as Tony said, that trip out to Austin. I'm really
- 15:52looking forward to that one. I was really bummed. There were a lot
- 15:54of bummers in twenty twenty. Missing out on that trip was definitely one of
- 15:56them. But finally getting out there one of those stadiums I've had on the
- 16:00top of my list to go see at some point, I'm looking forward to
- 16:03getting out there and crossing that one off my list. And Washington Stadium in
- 16:07a few years, so and so it should be a should be a fun
- 16:10year. Ituld be a fun year as well. At Buckeye Huddle dot com,
- 16:12Tony, Kevin and I covering the team, Mark covering recruiting Marcus down
- 16:17at UA camp right now in under Armor Camp down in Florida, covering some
- 16:22of the South top prospects. Some really interesting coverage there on the huddle board
- 16:26presented by Jeff Ruby steakhouse at Jeff at Buckey Huddle dot com right now,
- 16:30coming from Mark, and you can find more on our YouTube channel as well
- 16:33at YouTube dot com slash Buckeyehuddle. Lots of interesting stuff coming for you.
- 16:38Hoping to have some more player and coach interviews for you a little later on
- 16:41this month for you to hear a little more from Ryan Day and tomorrow's show.
- 16:45So lots of lots of in stuff coming for you all at Buckey Huddle
- 16:48dot com and YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. That will do it for
- 16:52today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 16:53We will talk to you tomorrow