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Elon Musk Gives FIRST DAMNING DOGE Update - Interview · Elon Musk Podcast

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for the show Elon Musk News. I am become meme, Yeah, pretty
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much. I'm just, I'm living the meme.
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I'm it's like this living the dream and there's living the
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meme and it's pretty much what's happening, you know?
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You're like, I think your. Biggest.
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I mean Doge started out as a meme.
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Think about it now it's real. Isn't that crazy?
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It is. It is crazy.
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But it's cool let. Me ask you this a year ago, if
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someone had told you you'd be at CPAC and working with the
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president to absolutely shred the government, the swamp,
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whatever you want to call it, would you ever believe that?
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No, no, me neither. But it's cool.
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This is awesome and and I just want to say, you know, thanks
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for your support. I mean, guys are, you know, so I
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mean, we're, you know, we're trying to get, get good things
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done, but also like, you know, have a good time doing it and,
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you know, and have like a sense of humor, you know.
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So like, like, I mean, the, the, the, the sort of the, the left
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wanted to make comedy illegal. You know, like you can't make
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fun of anything. So it was like comedy sucks.
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It's like nothing's funny. You can't make fun of anything.
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It's like legalize comedy. Yeah, legalize comedy.
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And we've, we've, we've shifted the entire culture in just the
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last few months, the whole culture of the country has
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shifted dramatically just because of that election.
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Yeah, exactly. You know, freedom of speech, I
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mean, you know, having fun again, it seems like we should,
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we should have a good time, you know?
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It, I mean, it's a great time. Everybody in this place is so
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excited and I haven't. I mean, when you talk to
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conservatives, everybody's happy and everybody feels this great
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sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four
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years. It really felt bad, especially
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toward the end, it felt really bad.
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Yeah. I mean, I thought we were, I
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thought we were sort of heading for a point in no return really,
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you know? And so that's why it was so
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essential that President Trump win the election and and that
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there there be a Republican majority in the House and
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Senate, which thanks to you with that, that has been
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accomplished. Yeah, I want to ask you one of
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the biggest questions I have for you is and you, you've been, you
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know, politically, you weren't really on one side or the other
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for a long time. You're a businessman.
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A lot of people stay away from it.
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Now you're on a side and you've chosen to say you're sitting
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here in a MAGA hat. What?
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What's it? You know, how did that happen?
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What was the moment like, you know?
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Dark gothic MAGA, that's a good one.
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I what? Was there a specific moment?
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Was there a moment that it all changed?
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Yeah, when I realized it was a fool, but no, I I was, I guess,
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Yeah. I mean, I'd say like it's
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probably politically neutral for for quite a while, you know, you
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know, leaning a little Democrat, you know, how do you go?
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From to. This.
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Yeah. No, no.
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Well. Did they go crazy?
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Yeah, they didn't, they didn't go crazy.
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They went crazy. No, I mean the, the whole cancel
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culture and, and you know, it's trying to stop freedom of speech
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and infringe upon just in general infringe upon people's
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personal freedoms. You know, they just want state
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control, state control of what you say they want to, you know,
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take away your, your guns and the reason I want to take away
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your guns. So like there's nothing you do
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to oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know,
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I just, I just like we, we, we just need to restore the, the
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fundamental elements of what made America great, which is
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freedom and opportunity. Yeah.
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We're, we're seeing a lot of these freedoms disappearing in
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the West. It's, it's not just about
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America. We're watching, we're all
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watching Europe and knowing that they're about 5000 years ahead
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of us, right? Because they got an early start
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and we're watching how they're devolving and you're trying to
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save it from happening. Here, I mean, in Europe, they
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put people in prison for memes. Yeah, you know, I'm like, that's
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insane. And they're collapsing.
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I mean, this society is, it's a collapsing society.
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It feels that way. It feels like.
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France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today.
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Yeah, I don't think you can question that.
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Yeah, so. But yeah, I mean really it's the
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face. I'll be sure.
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I mean, I really, I really just wanted to do useful things like,
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you know, basically build products, you know, provide
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products and services that that are that are good and that that
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that wasn't really like that interested in being political.
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It just like there was at a certain point no choice.
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Yeah, so. Yeah.
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Can I, can I ask you what on the same side of that coin, what's
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it like from going neutral to being vilified, largely vilified
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by the media? I think you're.
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What? No, really, I mean.
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Turn on some of these channels brother, I mean.
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They're angry. Does it bother you at all this
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little? Is that good to you?
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Yeah, there's, I mean, when they're chanting for my death, I
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suppose that's a little, you know, not good.
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And then like this song is not even that good.
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And it's like like, you call that a desk chat?
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That's nothing, please. They've been singing a lot
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lately, good music. There's a lot of music lately.
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It's not good music either. Yeah, I would say that there,
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you know, watching what you're doing with Doge is, is just that
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people love it. I mean, I I've always looked at
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the government and I've, I've always looked at the government.
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I've seen this big machine that and you just know that they
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waste because they don't care. Nobody could just more money
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coming. They don't care.
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You're cutting all this out. Everybody in this country knows
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that the government is full of waste, fraud and abuse and
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you're doing the work and the Americans love it.
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Watching their reaction politically to this, I can't
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believe how bad they are at responding to this.
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I don't know how you're going to sit there and and scream and
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complain because they're cutting waste out of the government and
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try to win another election. How?
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How do you try to win them? Well, I'm at this point, I'm
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like, I'm not sure how much of the left is even real, you know?
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How much was propped up by our money, you know?
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Yeah, yeah. Like literally, you know, you
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see like these these sort of fake rallies where there's like
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hardly any people and the media will like frame it and like, you
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know, get full six people, you know, in the frame.
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But it's like nobody else is there.
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Like just it, it doesn't have popular support, but but there's
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but but then you then you, you learn that like there's hundreds
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of billions of dollars going to be so-called Ng OS that, that,
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that and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are
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fundamentally anti American. And and the propping up their
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narrative, yes, a lot of that government money has been
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propping up a left that I don't think is as strong as they made
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it seem. In fact, a massive amount of of
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your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies.
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Yes, directly from the from from the government, the.
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Government wants to take over media.
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Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah.
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That's why we have X. Yeah, and that's.
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That's why you spent $44 billion.
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I mean, that's a lot of money. I mean.
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More than it was probably worth, but it had a There was a
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message. Freedom is priceless.
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Priceless. Yeah.
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Probably one of the most important investments this
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country's ever seen. If you got to protect the 1st
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Amendment, it's not much more important than that.
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Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of criticism and people said, well,
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that proves he's a huge idiot from a, you know, like, look,
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you know, he voted for whatever, $44 billion an ounce worth like
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$0.08 and. It's not worth it.
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But you know, there's but but but yeah, it was essentially to,
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you know, buy freedom of expression and.
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Yes, that's gone with all. Of it all over.
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Yeah, into tyranny is really quick after that.
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Yeah, I mean, like, you know, it's all the all the all the
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sort of federal money going to media companies is what what
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helps explain why the legacy of media all says the same thing at
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the same time. Yeah.
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Like, isn't it like it's like weird, like you, you put them up
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where it's like, you know, like when they're.
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They're mouthpieces for for the state.
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For the state, yes. And that's that's what we've
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come to know. Yeah, scary.
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And and and I like the the mean when they're whether because
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they're always saying like threat to our democracies that
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threat to but you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy.
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Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. It makes perfect sense, yeah.
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Big threat for the bureaucracy. That's exactly right.
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Let's talk about, let's talk about these DOGE dividend checks
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that everybody's talking about this week.
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And I know you tweeted out that you're going to, does everybody
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want like a $5000 check in the mail or sounds kind of good,
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right? And and the best part about it
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would be knowing where it came from that that's 5 grand that
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you sent them last year. Totally.
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It's it's, it's, it's money that's taken away from from
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things that are destructive to the country that and from
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organizations that hate you to you.
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That's awesome. Is it does it seem like, I mean,
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have you talked? I mean, that's like glorious.
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That's like the spoils of battle, you know, I.
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Like that is there? Is there traction on that?
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Yeah, yeah. So, well, yeah, I don't know.
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I talked to the president and he's supportive of that.
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And so it sounds like, you know, that's something we're we're
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going to do. Yep.
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So as as we're finding savings, that's going to translate
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directly to reductions in tax. So yeah.
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They, they, I mean, I think they fired 6000 people at the IRS
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today. And I think what Nick said last
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night that he, they're talking about shutting down the IRS.
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And I, I, I think it's fair. I think people should realize
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this is, I mean, the amount of money that we said we send
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Washington, like 5 or 6 trillion a year, that is such an ungodly
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amount of money. I mean, what do they say?
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Like a trillion seconds is like 30 years or something like that.
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I mean, that's how much we send them and they seem to never have
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enough. There's must be a lot you can
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cut. No, absolutely.
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People ask me what's the most surprising thing that you've
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encountered when you go to DC, you know, where you're in DC And
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I said, well, the most surprising thing is the scale of
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the expenditures and actually how easy it is to with a just
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just what when you add caring and competence where it was
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absent before, you can actually save billions of dollars
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sometimes in this in an hour. Yeah, like it's it's in a while.
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And then they scoff at it and say, oh, a few billion here,
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there. I mean, the way they're talking
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about it, they, they, you can see they don't care.
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It's it's so it's such little money compared to how much
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they're used to wasting. That's what's really scary.
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Yeah. No, I mean.
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It's exactly, but obviously it's, it's, it just shows that
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they, they really lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's
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working hard, paying, paying taxes.
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And then, and then they say, oh, $1,000,000 doesn't matter.
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I'm like, I think it matters a lot people, you know, So what
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are you talking about? I'd like to have it.
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Let me ask you a question. I, you know, I know the
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president fairly well, watched him survive 2 assassination
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attempts. The second had the first one not
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happened, the second one would have gotten him.
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You know, it was very because without those extra guys, they
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would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the
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golf course. I saw the the the crew that you
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it's. Like mind blowing that this has
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happened. I mean, I just and and what, by
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the way, why do we still know nothing about that guy in
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Butler? What's going on?
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But. He's he's.
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He's hash is going to get to the bottom of it.
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Yeah, by the way, yeah, whoa, confirmed, confirmed just a
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couple of hours ago. But I, I saw that the security
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detail that you had come in is, is enormous.
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Well, it's that enormous. Maybe it should be bigger, I
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don't know. I think you could probably
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afford it, but I mean, how concerned are you about your
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safety dealing? I mean, it's you.
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Are you are a wanted man. Are you?
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Are you? Yeah.
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So I, I look, I'm open to ideas for improving security.
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I have to tell you. Like I, I, I don't actually have
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a death wish. I think I, but, but you know,
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it's not that easy. So yeah, I mean, but, but, but I
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have like, I've had even like people like President Bocelli
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from El Salvador who, who managed to put in prison like
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like 100,000 like murderous thugs.
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And, and he was like, he called me.
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He's like, I'm worried about your security.
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I'm like, you're worried about my security.
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I'm like, what? OK, does it?
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You know, I mean, yeah, talk about guts to do that down
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there. I mean, yeah, totally.
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And then survive. Like, I'm like, I was like, how
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did you put all those thugs in prison without dying?
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Because seems like that would have been not easy, you know
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Well. There's a the, the the president
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has one of his top attorneys is now investigating, I guess Chuck
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Schumer for threats against SCOTUS Congressman on the
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Democrat side. We're saying, you know,
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basically saying they're going to bring a war to you like a
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fight to you. I mean the rhetoric.
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You guys are screwing with things that are not supposed to
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be messed with. And we're fighting with.
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A lot of people that really don't want that to happen.
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Yeah, we're fighting Matrix big time here.
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Yeah, but it has got to be done. Yeah.
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And. It certainly does.
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What's what's going on with tell us about Fort Knox?
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Yeah, there's Kentucky. It's a military base.
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It's a ton of gold. Tons and tons and tons 5. 1000
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tons of gold or. 5000 or 10 gold are there in the ground and like
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this I mean it's a very secure thing you.
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All want to see. It you know I'd love.
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To see it like this is your gold, by the way.
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It's the you. It's the public's gold.
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You think it's not there? I don't know, but I think.
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Just want to see it. Yeah, we want to go see it and
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just make sure like somebody did a spray paint some lad or
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something, you know? Yeah, like is this real gold
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bite bite in the bar? You know, didn't.
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But I think honestly, you know, part of this also is just like,
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let's let's you know, let's have some fun.
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And and and you know, like, like I said, this, this oldest gold
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in Fort Knox, it's the public's gold.
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It's your gold. So like I think you have like a
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right to see it. Take a tour, you know.
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Yeah, I think we should have it, do it, do it, tour.
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And then the president last night was like, that's all.
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I think he's in favor of it. That'll be cool.
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And then we like, should be like a live tour.
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Like you'll see what's going on. Open the door.
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Like what's behind it. Well, and there's, you know, I
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think. I'd watch that.
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Oh, are you kidding? Yeah.
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I mean, what is? What is 5000 tons of?
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Well, totally. What?
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How? Big is it?
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Is it? Is it the size of this?
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Got to be pretty big, you know? It's got to be a lot of.
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But there's some other stuff in there like this walk around.
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Like, I don't know, maybe I got some other stuff in there.
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Are you, are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as
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well? Which is obviously, yeah, sure.
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Regular regulates, right. I I imagine you think the waste
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has got to be everywhere. Yeah, no waste.
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Waste is pretty much everywhere. People ask like how can you find
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waste in in like in DC? I'm like, look, it's like being
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in A room and, and this target, the, the wall, the roofs and the
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floor are all targets. So it's like you're going to
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close, rise and go shoot in any direction.
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You see, you can't miss, you know.
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So it's, it's, it's pretty wild. Like, like you just push on
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things a little bit and, and you save billions of dollars, like
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just a little bit, you know? It's wild, it's scary, isn't?
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It it's, that's why I say it like it really is underrated
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where if you add caring and competence, how much things
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improve. Yeah.
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And, and, you know, and we, we just find so many totally crazy
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things and which, you know, we're obviously we're sharing
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with the public. We post everything we learn, you
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know, just, you know, so you can see it, you know, what do you?
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And and like, it's like, isn't it like it's totally wild.
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Like we did just, we just did like a check the database on
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Social Security, like says how many a lot Americans alive,
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Americans eligible for Social Security are there.
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And according to the database, it's over 400 million.
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And we're like, wait a second. And how many are getting old and
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you're getting? Good.
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Yeah. And and then like we found like
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one person in there is like 360 years old.
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I'm like, what do they know? Brent for 100?
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Years or so for the river, I mean.
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Yeah, you know, there's America doesn't exist before at that
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time, like so I so, yeah, we were colonies.
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You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
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I don't know. But are there indications that
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those that there were checks going to those people or any of
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those people? Well, yes.
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I guess the question right this, I mean, I get the Social
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Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these
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people? Are they that dumb?
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I don't know. A bunch of money is going out
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for the Social Security Administration and in fact, from
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all entitlements programs. People that billion in waste in
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like 7 years, that's ten billion a year.
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Well, I I think the the fraudulent payments, the the
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rough or estimate from general the Government Accountability
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offices on as over $500 billion a 40 year if I 500 billion.
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And how long the time? Of per year.
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Per year on on Social Security. No, no, no on, all on.
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All government. On all entitlements.
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All entitlements, Yeah, yeah, it it, it sort of actually makes
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sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say like,
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OK, the $7 trillion was spending by the government.
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What percentage do you think is fraudulent?
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OK, exactly. Like a A conservative estimate
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of the seven trillion will be 10% conservative.
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Probably a little higher than that.
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Yeah, exactly. Feels like 1/4 out of every
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dollar right? But if if the if the fraud's
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only 10% of 7 trillion, you've got $700 billion of fraud.
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Yeah. And by the way, so it's like
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really easy to take advantage of the federal government.
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It's very. Easy, very easy.
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Look at COVID. Yes.
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Everybody got rich during COVID. I mean, look at all those.
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I mean, it's unbelievable. We.
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We, it, it, it looks like in terms of the COVID payments,
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yeah, there was something like $200 billion of, of COVID
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payment fraud taken by forces out of the country.
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Out of the country. Yeah, that's like, like, I
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think, listen, there's going to be fraud that should at least be
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domestic. Yeah.
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So, you know, but they managed to get $200 billion out of the
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country. I'm like, what?
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Didn't we notice that? Let me ask you, let's do
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immigration here for a second. You know, there's this move now
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that Trump's latest thing is that he cut, he's going to cut
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funding any kind of money that ends up in the hands of illegal
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immigrants. So if you're funding these
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sanctuary cities and states, that's how right they're paying
20:02
for these hotels. That's all federal money.
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If you got a hotel in your city in New York, you got all these
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hotels full of migrants. That's not state money.
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That's the feds are covering that.
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He's going to cut all that. It's really hard to deport
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15,000,000 people. And it seems like the move now
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is. Let's see if we especially at
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the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is.
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Let's make it so that they leave on their own.
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If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't
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get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go
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back, especially if there's no work.
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Well, I think it's really important for people to
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understand that the, the, the Biden administration sent any
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possible money that they could. They could if, if there was
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money they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal
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immigration, they sent it. OK, They took money from FEMA
20:49
meant for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to
20:54
luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York.
20:58
That is a an outrage. They actually did that.
21:03
And and not only that, even after the president signed an
21:07
executive order saying it has to stop the famous, the, the, the
21:11
sort of whatever deep state bureaucrats still still pressed
21:15
send on $80 million last week to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New
21:20
York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that
21:25
they've got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
21:28
restored. It's like the gumption.
21:31
You think? You think that?
21:32
Creating a new voter classes, would you think that was the
21:34
goal when they opened up classes for four years?
21:36
Create a new voter class, get them citizenship, get them in.
21:38
Yeah, cards, but. A lot of these things like you
21:42
don't actually have to assume some grand conspiracy.
21:44
You just need to look at basic incentives, benefits.
21:48
So if the incentives fundamentally, if if the
21:52
probability that an illegal is going to vote Democrat at some
21:55
point, whether it's, you know, cheating, but eventually that
21:59
can become citizens. But if the probability is like
22:02
8090%, just look at California, which is super majority Dem.
22:07
And then the incentive is to maximize the number of illegals
22:11
in the country. That is why the Biden
22:13
administration was pushing to get in as many illegals as
22:18
possible and spend every dollar possible to get as many, because
22:21
every one of them is a customer, everyone's a voter.
22:25
So the whole thing was a giant voter importation scam.
22:30
Pretty obvious. Very obvious.
22:32
And then they moreover then they they actually created the CVP
22:36
one voter app thing where they were, which is like the way they
22:40
could they would literally fly people in.
22:41
It's not like like at the point in which you know, people being
22:45
flown in at, at your expense. Sending planes.
22:48
Building a wall up. This is flying them.
22:50
Over the board, yeah, they're. Literally flying them in no.
22:52
Other No other country in the world would do something like
22:54
this. Nobody is this stupid.
22:56
Yeah. And and then we found that it
22:57
was like $100 million contract given to some guy in London
23:04
actually oddly enough, yeah, for the CVP one out.
23:08
So, so then so they're, they're flying illegals into the swing
23:13
states. Yeah.
23:14
And and if you've got like a, a margin of victory of maybe
23:18
20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that
23:22
state, it's not going to be a spring state.
23:24
For long, change the numbers. Eventually, yeah, maybe in 4-8
23:29
years. You're exactly.
23:30
Just a. It's a long game, it's.
23:32
Just a matter of time. So it might take like a year for
23:35
a sound secret or something to get on the to get get the green
23:38
card, then five years for the citizenship.
23:40
It's it's is there an investment that is guaranteed to pay off?
23:43
Yeah. Just a question of when.
23:44
They all remember who brought them in and who left the
23:46
marriage. Exactly, exactly.
23:47
I want to go back. I want to talk about a big deal
23:49
like. I think a lot of people like
23:50
don't quite appreciate that this was an actual real scam at scale
23:55
to tilt the scales of democracy in America.
23:59
Treason. Treason.
24:02
One more Biden question. I remember when, you know, when
24:05
they would do the electric car stuff, they would always try to
24:07
box you out even though you have the only electric car anybody
24:09
wants. Yeah, you.
24:11
You said, I think this week that you think that Biden left these
24:16
astronauts up in space because he didn't want to give you an
24:18
opportunity to save them, make NASA look bad, make the private
24:21
sector look better, make you look good.
24:24
You believe that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
24:26
So of course. I kind of agree.
24:30
And I. Why would he want to let you
24:32
help them come down when you're supporting?
24:34
The president, the Biden administration was was attacking
24:37
the next level. I mean, the department is of
24:40
justice or injustice under the Biden administration was I mean,
24:45
there was suing SpaceX. There's they're suing SpaceX for
24:49
not hiring asylum seekers. And we're like, but it's
24:53
actually illegal for us to hire asylum seekers because we're
24:57
rocket technology is covered under ITAR rules, which is that
25:01
means it's an advanced weapons technology.
25:04
And so we can only hire permanent residents or green or,
25:07
or citizens, right? Like so.
25:09
So we're damned if we do it, damned if we don't.
25:11
We still like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum
25:16
seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so?
25:19
But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice or
25:21
Injustice case about this against SpaceX.
25:24
So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
25:28
And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8
25:31
days and now they're up for eight months.
25:32
Does that make any sense? And, and, and we, we obviously
25:37
could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it
25:39
to, didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to
25:43
look good, basically. Yeah, that's the, that's the,
25:45
that's the issue. The, a lot of them are saying
25:50
right now that the reason that you want to get into Social
25:52
Security, that you want to get into all of these different,
25:55
into treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for
25:56
personal information and you're trying to make more money.
25:59
Yeah. I, I've never met anybody as
26:01
rich as you that cared less about money in my life.
26:03
Every time I hear a story about you, you're sleeping on a couch
26:06
of some other guy in a city that you could buy the entire thing.
26:10
Yeah, I'm not I. Don't think you care about
26:12
money? Do.
26:12
You. No, actually, I mean, listen,
26:19
like if I if I steal some Social Security, I can finally buy nice
26:22
things, Yeah. And, and, and on that same
26:28
question, they're also talking about you guys are going to end
26:31
Social Security, you're going to end Medicare, you're going to
26:33
end these things. I, I don't imagine that
26:36
conversation has been had with the president and that's, that's
26:38
the plan. No, in fact, the actions that
26:40
we're taking with the support of the president and the support of
26:44
the agencies is what will save Medicare, what will save Social
26:47
Security. And and it's it because if the
26:57
country goes insolvent, if, if, if all of if all the money is
27:01
just spent on paying interest on debt, there's no money left for
27:05
anything. Yeah.
27:06
So that's, that's the reason I'm doing this is because I'm, I was
27:08
looking at the big picture here. And it's like, man, our debt's
27:11
getting out of control. The the interest payments.
27:14
The interest on the national debt now exceeds the entire
27:17
Defense Department budget. Trillion a year in interest just
27:21
to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year.
27:24
That is unbelievable. And rising rapidly it's so so
27:27
like it's I mean a country is not over from a person country
27:30
overspends country goes bankrupt.
27:32
The same with the same as a person who overspends goes
27:34
bankrupt. So it's it's not like optional
27:38
to solve these things. It's essential so we're.
27:41
Going to go bankrupt. Yes, we are.
27:46
Couple minutes left here, Russia, there's a huge push from
27:50
the Oh yeah, yeah. People like, sort of like to end
27:53
the war. They're like, you know, I, I'm,
27:56
I'm a, I'm a bored asset of Putin.
27:58
Yeah. I'm like, he can't afford me.
28:00
Yeah. I think I think you're worth
28:02
more than Russia. Think about it.
28:08
So what we're you're trying to end?
28:11
You're trying to end a war. It's all any war always means.
28:15
You have to compromise. You have to negotiate with an
28:18
enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is.
28:20
And right now they are lambasting the president for
28:24
trying a different method to war that they haven't been able to
28:26
end for 3 1/2 years or three years.
28:28
They, you know, they're, they're saying Trump's blaming Zelinsky
28:31
for the invasion. How, how do you, how do you
28:34
process all of the negativity toward him for trying to end
28:37
this war? Well, first of all, I think we
28:42
should have empathy for the people dying at the front lines.
28:44
That's the most important thing. If people have been dying, you
28:47
know, it's like, how many more years is this supposed to go on?
28:53
Yeah. And imagine if that was your
28:54
son, your father, You know, what are they dying for?
28:59
What exactly are they dying for? That line that has the line of
29:02
engagement has barely moved for two years.
29:04
Yeah. There's a whole bunch of people
29:07
dead in trenches For what? And I'll, I'll tell you what,
29:11
for what it's like for the biggest graft machine that I've
29:13
ever seen in my life, That's for what it's, it's unreal.
29:18
Like the, the, the amount of money that is, that is being
29:21
taken in, in Grafton bribery is, is disgusting.
29:25
And and so what's actually happening is that those, those,
29:30
you know, people, those poor guys are getting extended to a
29:33
meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on.
29:36
Yeah. And it needs to stop and.
29:38
That's, I mean, that's it seems. I mean, Trump is so pragmatic on
29:43
this. It's just he's just looking at
29:45
it and he's saying it's Ukraine, it's not our country, it's not a
29:47
NATO ally. I just want to see people not
29:49
dying. I want to see on both sides.
29:51
I mean, think about how many young, so many young men have
29:53
died in Ukraine that the army is starting to age out.
29:56
The military is aging out. You got 40 and 50 year old guys
29:59
fighting in a war because there's nobody left that's not
30:01
killed or maimed in their 20s. Yeah, that's the reality of it.
30:04
Think about how many people that is.
30:06
If you're a humanitarian at all, you just got to end the war.
30:10
Like no matter what, just get it over with.
30:13
Yes, people, they need to stop dying and, and and the growth
30:18
machines got to stop, you know, so.
30:21
And I think people, yeah, they don't a lot of people out there
30:23
don't realize like the president has a lot of empathy.
30:26
He really cares, you know, he's a good, he's a good man, so.
30:31
I got one more for you. I've been fascinated by you for
30:37
a very long time. Thanks.
30:40
I'm just, I just. I've never seen anybody that
30:42
can, you know, do so many things at the same time.
30:44
I mean, you've got the Rockets, you got the cars.
30:47
I've always wanted to ask you, what is it like inside your mind
30:50
like this? Is it just 1000 miles an hour?
30:52
I mean, are you? Yeah.
30:54
Is it just not. I mean, does does it ever stop?
30:56
Do you sleep? How much do you sleep?
30:58
What's? David.
31:02
Paint us a picture of inside of of the mind, of of a genius.
31:05
Like how do you? Can you answer that question?
31:09
It's not an easy question, yeah. I mean, my mind is a storm.
31:13
Yeah, so it's a storm, but but I mean, let me maybe tell you
31:20
something like you're going to ask the question.
31:21
But but I, I think it's worth kind of nonetheless, maybe just
31:25
just elaborating or something, which is, you know, I grew up in
31:30
in South Africa and but my morality was informed by
31:36
America. I read comic books, you know,
31:39
play Dungeons and Dragons and, and I watched American TV shows
31:47
and it it like it seemed like America cared about being the
31:54
good guys, you know, about doing the right thing.
31:57
And and and that's actually pretty unusual, by the way.
32:05
It's like it's. Like in the world, it's very
32:07
unusual. Yeah, it's not like actually.
32:08
Those countries don't do that. No, they don't.
32:10
No. And so I was like, yeah, you
32:13
know, you, you want to be this good, you want to be on the side
32:16
of good, you want to care about what's right.
32:18
And, and yeah, so that's, that's, yeah, what I believe in,
32:27
you know, so. I gave you, I gave you a tough
32:30
one at the end. Yeah.
32:35
So yeah. That's great.
32:37
That's great, Elon Musk. All right, Thank you.
32:39
Thank you so much. All right.
32:40
Hi, Chris. All right, Hey.
32:42
Guys. Thank you.
33:43
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