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New Parents · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's time for the Almost Famous
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Speaker 1: podcast where we get to hear well from past Bachelor
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Speaker 1: contestants and Bachelor contestants, but also are wonderful Ashley, like
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Speaker 1: can Eddie Ashley? What's going on? Oh? Hi? Ben? I
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Speaker 1: don't know, not much for me right now, just waiting
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Speaker 1: for this kid to come out, but also very terrified,
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Speaker 1: not looking forward to it. I want my body back,
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Speaker 1: but I also don't want to go through what's about
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Speaker 1: to happen to me. I mean talk about terrifying, okay, right,
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Speaker 1: but so many people have done it. You're a strong human.
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Speaker 1: You're going to do great. Strongest human really not You're
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Speaker 1: a strong But have you are you starting to getting nervous? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm very nervous. I'm not starting to get nervous like
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Speaker 1: I have been nervous a couple of months. Like a
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Speaker 1: month ago, I was just nervous about like parent hood
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Speaker 1: and adjustment, and now I'm just straight up nervous about labor.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not worried about parenthood at all. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: be a great mom, You're gonna do great. I I
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Speaker 1: have full confidence um, you're becoming a parent today too.
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Speaker 1: I'm actually so. I don't know if anybody out there
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Speaker 1: has ever had this happen, But last night I flew
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Speaker 1: in from that golf tournament in Orlando, and I had
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Speaker 1: a ton of stuff to do in the afternoon because
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Speaker 1: I've been gone for four days. And I got home
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Speaker 1: and my cell phone reception was completely out, and my
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Speaker 1: wife I was out like nothing was working, and so
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Speaker 1: I just had to like, no call, no show every
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Speaker 1: meeting I had until I found data about twenty miles
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Speaker 1: from my house and I could text and email people.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I did for an hour and a
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Speaker 1: half last night. So, um, we rescheduled the podcast for
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Speaker 1: this time today so we get out, which is why
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Speaker 1: you guys heard um from Peter and Dustin yesterday. I
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Speaker 1: did that solo. Yeah, and uh and now I'm missing
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Speaker 1: picking up Whalen because we were doing the podcast now,
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Speaker 1: so it's like, isn't exactly the most fun thing ever.
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Speaker 1: So Jess went down to pick him up. He'll come
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Speaker 1: up and hang out with us here this afternoon. I'm
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Speaker 1: nervous about that. I had a dream last night. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't like me and I don't know we'll see. We
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Speaker 1: met him before, though I know I don't know if
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Speaker 1: he liked me. I didn't. I didn't exactly ask him.
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Speaker 1: I got nervous. But he is on his way. Jes
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Speaker 1: so much puppy stuff. Our house is covered in puppy
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Speaker 1: things right now. It is absolutely wild what a puppy
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Speaker 1: needs or what she thinks that pupp people want as
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Speaker 1: an eight week old, but she is. He has a
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Speaker 1: TEMPERA pedic bed. I mean the bed is more comfory
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Speaker 1: than the bed I sleep on. Nice ben Listen a
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Speaker 1: little tip from somebody who does know how to puppy parent. Um,
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Speaker 1: you will be overwhelmed and maybe even annoyed and kind
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Speaker 1: of like maybe regretful or at least like questioning your
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Speaker 1: decision for a little bit, maybe like three to six months. Crap,
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Speaker 1: because like they're when they're peeing everywhere, like Lois would
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Speaker 1: pee on our bed, Like that was what was annoying,
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Speaker 1: because then you have to change the sheets all the time,
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Speaker 1: and like you just don't know how to break the habit.
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Speaker 1: Are you guys going to be strict, Like do you
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Speaker 1: feel like you're going to like properly train We didn't
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Speaker 1: properly train Yeah, we have a plan. So I'm actually
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Speaker 1: leaving UM for this podcast, going up to San Francisco
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Speaker 1: for a few days, UM for the A, T and T.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do a podcast in there. Um. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be gone for about a week and a half. Now,
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Speaker 1: Jessica will be here with the puppy and she's going
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Speaker 1: to start working with him. She's very excited about this,
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Speaker 1: and we planned this ahead of time. And then in March,
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Speaker 1: we're actually going to Israel and so we're gonna send
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Speaker 1: him to puppy school for the two weeks where in Israel. UM,
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Speaker 1: we've been advised by that, and so we'll get him
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Speaker 1: trained in Like he's just gonna have like the intensive
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Speaker 1: two week training UM with somebody that we trust and know.
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Speaker 1: So we're hoping that how helps. We also have a
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Speaker 1: bell tied to all of our doors now that I
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Speaker 1: did not understand, and I guess she hopes he hits
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Speaker 1: the bell when he needs to go to the bathroom.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a fence in backyard? No, we have
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Speaker 1: electric fence. UM that doesn't work. So we're just gonna
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Speaker 1: like act like it works. And I don't know's that's
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Speaker 1: a good idea. Do you guys have coyotes around there? Uh,
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Speaker 1: we do. He's gonna be a big dog. I'm not
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Speaker 1: ever going to let him go out alone. There's bear
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Speaker 1: and mountain lion. I'll always be out with him. I'll
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Speaker 1: walk him a lot. We'll make sure this dog is
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Speaker 1: as safe as safe can be. Well. Hey, actually right, lastly,
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Speaker 1: where'd you get the name Whalon from Whalen Jennings. I
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Speaker 1: love Whalen Jennings. I want to name our kid Whalen.
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Speaker 1: She said, you can name the dog Whalen. I said, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's just like you know that Blake Sheldon song. You
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Speaker 1: name the kids and I'll name the dogs. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of what's going on. So that's kind of
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Speaker 1: what's going on with us too. Yeah. I don't I
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Speaker 1: don't know who ol drinking Ashley. We have a huge
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Speaker 1: podcast in front of us breaking down this week's episode
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Speaker 1: of um Clayton season of The Bachelor. I'm interested to
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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts and how you made it through this episode.
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Speaker 1: I felt like it was a lot of back and forth.
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Speaker 1: I felt like, um, I've enjoyed every episode. I guess
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Speaker 1: there's only been two, and this is the first one.
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Speaker 1: That felt slow to me a little slow. But we'll
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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. We come back after the break. Funny
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Speaker 1: that you said how you made it through this episode,
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Speaker 1: because guess what, I didn't. You didn't make it through.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean? I fell asleep in the last
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Speaker 1: ten minutes. Is that because of the episode or just
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Speaker 1: because of life? Right now? I think it's both. I
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Speaker 1: think it was both. Um. I mean, I wasn't totally asleep,
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Speaker 1: but it was that kind of asleep. And you're like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch this with my eyes close and
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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And you like try
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Speaker 1: to listen, but then you're in and out like it
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Speaker 1: was slow. Yeah, it was slow. It was, but it
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Speaker 1: doesn't take away from us breaking it down. We did
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Speaker 1: start this episode with kind of the cliffhanger drama of
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Speaker 1: episode two, which feels like it was a month ago,
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Speaker 1: but it was really only two weeks ago. Um. We
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Speaker 1: have the Cassidy and Shana thing going on. Um, we
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Speaker 1: have women now starting to speak out and tell Clayton
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Speaker 1: about the drama going on in the house. Ashley, kick
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Speaker 1: us off, Start us off. We begin this episode with
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Speaker 1: the cocktail party. Yeah, so we leave off, of course,
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Speaker 1: not knowing whether Cassie is gonna get her roast taken away.
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Speaker 1: They have two conversations, both which Cassidy was like, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going I am not invested in this thing at home. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: she denies seeing someone at home, so she hasn't had
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Speaker 1: a relationship since two thousand nineteen and um, she hasn't
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Speaker 1: talked to a guy in a long time. But then
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Speaker 1: she also kind of admits there's like a friend that
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Speaker 1: she has at home, um, that she's slept with a
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Speaker 1: few times over the past few months, but that she's
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Speaker 1: already falling into something with Clayton. Um. Again, I really
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Speaker 1: do truly believe her. And when when she says it's
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Speaker 1: just like a friends with benefits situation, it was like
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Speaker 1: maybe a situation at home that she was like sort
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Speaker 1: of hopeful about, but like it wasn't going in her direction.
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Speaker 1: You know that we debated this with Connor two weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: and I still kind of feel like there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people in that position when they go on the show,
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Speaker 1: Like you know, there's always like somebody and everybody's head, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're in your twenties and you're single,
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's always someone you're like wondering if
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Speaker 1: it might work out with. Uh. The only thing that
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Speaker 1: was interesting was that Sierra did say something like, um,
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Speaker 1: there's a guy back, because she was the tattle tattle
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Speaker 1: tale in this situation, the one who told Clayton about
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Speaker 1: Cassidy having a guy at home, and she said something
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Speaker 1: along the lines of, um, there's a guy at home
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Speaker 1: like waiting for her, or like that she that she
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Speaker 1: really likes that she's hoping it's going to work out with,
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Speaker 1: or like going on the show is going to make
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Speaker 1: him jealous type situation. And I can also believe that
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Speaker 1: that's a different situation. I mean, I think if we
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Speaker 1: look at this thing, let's be honest. You're in your twenties,
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Speaker 1: you're single, you're dating. Yeah, you're not gonna stop dating
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Speaker 1: because you're going on this show. If you meet somebody
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Speaker 1: and you're super into them, while also at the same
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Speaker 1: time you believe you're still going to go on the Bachelor,
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Speaker 1: I think the right thing to do would just say, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on this Bachelor show because
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Speaker 1: I've met somebody I'm into and interested in. That's happened
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Speaker 1: many times before. Also, but yeah, but that's like when
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Speaker 1: the other person is down to commit. If you're dating
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Speaker 1: and you're not into this person and they're just the
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Speaker 1: friends with benefits or whatever you want to hall of.
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Speaker 1: If you're just casually hanging out with him and you're like,
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Speaker 1: this isn't my husband, or this isn't my wife, this
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Speaker 1: isn't my partner, then I'd say a lot of people
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Speaker 1: in that situation it is completely fair for you just
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Speaker 1: to go on the show, even if you went on
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Speaker 1: a date two weeks before you want on the show,
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Speaker 1: because you have no clue where this show is gonna
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Speaker 1: speak out. Now. The difference here is she meets Clayton,
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Speaker 1: if she's really into him, now she's cutting this guy
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Speaker 1: off in her mind and she's moving forward, go for it. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think also, though, that that different thing going on
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Speaker 1: the other side. Different scenario is if in her head
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Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just gonna go back home to this guy.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here as long as I possibly can.
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Speaker 1: I don't think Clayton and I are gonna get married,
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Speaker 1: And so this guy is gonna be at home waiting
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Speaker 1: for me, and he's gonna be really jealous because now
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have all this attention from going on the show.
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Speaker 1: I think that would be a problem, which I think
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Speaker 1: probably Clayton is trying to figure out if she sees
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Speaker 1: this as a game, yeah, or if she actually sees
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Speaker 1: this as something she's really into, because it's hard to
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Speaker 1: tell right now. Very well put and I think he
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Speaker 1: just didn't want to risk it and he sent her home. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't like super dramatic. It wasn't. She handled
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Speaker 1: it relatively, Yeah, I mean it wasn't super dramatic. I
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Speaker 1: think her Instagram stories are obviously, yeah, a lot more dramatic.
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Speaker 1: We talked about those last week where she kind of
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Speaker 1: came out and called out Clayton, you know, called out
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Speaker 1: some of the other ladies, and uh, that seems more
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Speaker 1: dramatic than what happened on the show. But Cassie's gone.
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Speaker 1: The rose was pulled, so it leads us down to
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Speaker 1: the rose ceremony. Ashley, any shockers here for you anything
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Speaker 1: right now? That some women that I mean, here's the
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Speaker 1: problem with this season. With taking the week off, I
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Speaker 1: felt like I was just starting to get to know
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Speaker 1: a little bit of them and then I take you know,
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Speaker 1: two weeks off of the show, and I forget all
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Speaker 1: their names, and I forget a lot of the connections,
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Speaker 1: but some of the most of the favorites, the ones
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Speaker 1: that like have stood out to me, are still there. Yeah, Kate,
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Speaker 1: Tessa and NC go home. I can't I can't at
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Speaker 1: all come up with their faces in my head. Of course,
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Speaker 1: that they wait till the very end for Cheney and
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Speaker 1: for Elizabeth to get their roses, and they're the villains
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Speaker 1: and not the villains. They're the enemies right now. Um,
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Speaker 1: but they both they both get roses and Shana Shane
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Speaker 1: Shane is like, I'm here to win. They are parts
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Speaker 1: of Sheney during this episode that I kind of vibed with.
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Speaker 1: I was like, I get you, but she is quite villainous.
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Speaker 1: She's actually she's got a mean streak we haven't seen
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Speaker 1: in a while. I feel like, I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say I was right, but when the season started,
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Speaker 1: I said I think this this person. Week one, I said,
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Speaker 1: she's got a little bit more to uncover than we've
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Speaker 1: seen you and I believe it's still yet to be
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Speaker 1: fully seen, and we're gonna see it more as the
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Speaker 1: season goes on. We saw a little bit of it
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Speaker 1: this episode. But um, after the road ceremony, the episode,
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Speaker 1: this new episode really kicks off with a group date. Um.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the ladies are at this point are confused.
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Speaker 1: They think the drama is getting in the way. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if they've never seen this show before, but
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Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks are usually full of drama
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Speaker 1: and the usually is getting in the way. You just
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Speaker 1: gotta rise above it. But they're tired at this point.
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Speaker 1: Uh that you know, they're a little exhausted, a little traumatized.
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Speaker 1: I think was the word uh that would say that.
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Speaker 1: They would say, So, here's a group date. Susie reads it. Serena, Susie, Eliza, Mara, Marlina, Hunter,
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Speaker 1: Genevieve and Jill are going on this date group date
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Speaker 1: cards says, I see you love Clayton. Yes. So this
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Speaker 1: is one of those group dates that they're seemingly incorporating
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Speaker 1: into every season now where it's kind of like a
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Speaker 1: therapy group session. This one is led by Caitlin Bristow
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Speaker 1: and basically she starts out by saying, like, stand up
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Speaker 1: if you if there's part of yourself that you're not
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Speaker 1: proud of, and then or that you would like to
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Speaker 1: change or something along those lines, and everybody stands up
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Speaker 1: and the kind of the common thread, the common theme
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Speaker 1: in all these stories is how people changed in relationships
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Speaker 1: for other people or they behaved in their past relationships
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Speaker 1: in ways that they didn't that they weren't proud of.
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Speaker 1: And it's just one of those like really getting to
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Speaker 1: know you things and it's very emotional. And at the end,
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Speaker 1: Clayton reveals that he um has a lot of insecurities
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Speaker 1: with his body, which is you know, after talking to
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Speaker 1: Ben Smith a few weeks ago, it seems like a
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Speaker 1: common theme for both the men and women. Um, these
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Speaker 1: are great dates. Uh, And we've said it before when
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Speaker 1: Nick hosted this one with um was it Katie season? Uh?
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Speaker 1: He hosted this date And Uh, they're incredible dates because
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Speaker 1: I do think they feel like an actual date. You're
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Speaker 1: getting to know somebody, You're getting to hear from somebody.
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Speaker 1: You're also allowing the space to help somebody maybe heal
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Speaker 1: a little bit, or to get some frustrations out there
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Speaker 1: in a safe environment. Right. You know, we hear um
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Speaker 1: some women talk about their insecurities. We also hear obviously
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Speaker 1: some of the topics that we know the show needed
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Speaker 1: to be talking about talking about um racism, what it's
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Speaker 1: like to be somebody of color, UM, what it's like
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Speaker 1: to have past relationships that are unhealthy. These are all
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Speaker 1: topics that really um for a viewer, and I hope
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Speaker 1: for the contestants. I would just try to put myself
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Speaker 1: in their shoes. I would think these are really good
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Speaker 1: dates to be on. Now. Uh, it's kind of weird
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Speaker 1: this episode because we go from this day to have
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Speaker 1: a bay Watch date, so I think one group really
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Speaker 1: you know that the weight shifted to a complete opposite thing.
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Speaker 1: But Caitlin did a great job at hosting this. It
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Speaker 1: was good to see her on our televisions. Um. We've
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Speaker 1: gotten to see a lot of her own televisions. UM.
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Speaker 1: But I enjoy these dates. I will say that I
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Speaker 1: am not against instead of you know, the wedding dress
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Speaker 1: date and the wedding photo date, like this maybe replaces
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Speaker 1: it and as the constant date that happens every season.
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Speaker 1: I'm all for it all for it gets us to
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Speaker 1: know them more, and it gets of course all of
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Speaker 1: them to get to get to know each other more.
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Speaker 1: The group time, the group time portion, the you know,
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Speaker 1: the cocktail portion of the state. The The standout moments
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Speaker 1: I feel like are with Serene, who talks about how
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Speaker 1: she just feels so comfortable with him right off the
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Speaker 1: bat um and he says pretty much the same thing
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Speaker 1: about her. She talks about how Um her family is
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Speaker 1: not emotional, so like dates like this are kind of
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Speaker 1: like a shock to the system. Um, but he says
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Speaker 1: that they feels like they have a strong connection. Then
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Speaker 1: there's Susie, who I still feel, especially after watching this scene,
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Speaker 1: he's so much more into her and she's into him.
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Speaker 1: The more I watched their interaction, like, I feel like
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Speaker 1: she's gonna keep getting Rose after Rose, all the validation,
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Speaker 1: and then she's going to be that girl like Top
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Speaker 1: four who runs away and he's going to be devastated
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Speaker 1: because I think his plan is to pick her. I
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Speaker 1: have a theory after this data, especially it's not far
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Speaker 1: off yours, she won't be the only one that runs
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Speaker 1: away this season the last six. It's gonna be hard
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Speaker 1: for him to keep all of them there. Wait, why
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Speaker 1: do you think that? Because I just get the sense that,
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Speaker 1: like a few of these women are really into Clayton
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Speaker 1: right now, and it makes sense. It seems great, Um,
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Speaker 1: but with watching the teasers, seeing some of the stuff
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Speaker 1: he says, seeing how emotionally is I have a feeling
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Speaker 1: that like, even if they're into him, at some point
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Speaker 1: they go, yeah, I'm not. I just can't continue this,
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Speaker 1: Like I can't leave this in an engagement, and so
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take myself out of it and he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be like, crap, like I messed up. This is
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Speaker 1: just my theory, Okay, but we'll watch it as the
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Speaker 1: season goes on. Yeah, the group they you know, the
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Speaker 1: group they portion of this with Clayton or with Caitlin leading,
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Speaker 1: It almost felt like a cocktail party right there talking.
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Speaker 1: They're conversing amongst each other. They're all in the same circle,
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Speaker 1: in the same group. Um, so you know, the cocktail
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Speaker 1: party itself was just a good add on to that.
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Speaker 1: I feel like they got closer. Some of these relationship
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Speaker 1: did build. We got to see a little bit. But
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Speaker 1: let's move on to the on on one this week. Um,
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Speaker 1: Sarah gets the invite to the one on one and
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Speaker 1: we see a familiar face beckat Kuffrin uh kind of
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Speaker 1: hosting the date or showing up for the date. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so they have to do like a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: embarrassing things like run around l A and their underwear, which,
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Speaker 1: like Sarah feels, is super weird and like, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: get it. I had to drive a tractor in downtown
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Speaker 1: l A in my bikini. I think that was like
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Speaker 1: a little more demoralizing because the underwear that they gave
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Speaker 1: them looks like a like Olympics swimming suit. It's not
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Speaker 1: like it's pretty covering, it's not that embarrassing. It's like
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Speaker 1: a sports bra in my opinion. Honestly, no big deal here.
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Speaker 1: He's the one that does have to run around the boxers,
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Speaker 1: which can be a little weird. Um they have to
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Speaker 1: do they have to sing about each other's about their
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Speaker 1: feelings for each other on a mic in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the park. Like it's awkward, but of course they're
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Speaker 1: getting out of their comfort zone, right, Um, I just
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Speaker 1: like don't feel this at all? Is that horrible? I
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Speaker 1: just don't feel their chemistry. I do later on at
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Speaker 1: the dinner portion, like I get it way more, but
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Speaker 1: not during this day the day day. Maybe it's just
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Speaker 1: the awkwardness. Um it is a you know, it is
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Speaker 1: one of Clayton's first one on ones and so it's
19:19
Speaker 1: hard to know how to navigate it. And you're doing
19:21
Speaker 1: a bunch of like ridiculous things together. Uh yeah, I
19:25
Speaker 1: would agree with you. I mean, the dinner portion did
19:28
Speaker 1: seem to like connect them a little bit more. She
19:33
Speaker 1: talks about her being adopted and she actually felt like
19:39
Speaker 1: she didn't belong and she she had a lot of
19:45
Speaker 1: like emotional issues because she was given up from her
19:51
Speaker 1: biological parents and um it also for her parents, she like,
19:56
Speaker 1: you know, she looks different from them, she has totally
19:59
Speaker 1: different ethnic background. Um. But of course she loves her
20:04
Speaker 1: adopted family. But she said, like it took her a
20:06
Speaker 1: while to realize, like all the love there makes sense,
20:11
Speaker 1: and it does, and they you know, like I said,
20:13
Speaker 1: those are the Those are the moments during this episode
20:15
Speaker 1: that I enjoy because ultimately, the drama back home will
20:19
Speaker 1: get into that in a second, because shrimp Gate was
20:22
Speaker 1: kind of happening throughout this thing as well. But you know,
20:27
Speaker 1: the the drama is always entertaining up to a point. Um,
20:33
Speaker 1: But the connection and hearing these people's stories are the
20:37
Speaker 1: things that will I think, kind of grasp onto and
20:42
Speaker 1: hold onto and understand as they continue to try to
20:44
Speaker 1: build their relationship and to see how Clayton responds to
20:47
Speaker 1: these those type of things. It's really important, Um is
20:50
Speaker 1: he gonna be there for them? And is he going
20:52
Speaker 1: to continue to reinforce like his support of them even
20:56
Speaker 1: within their insecurities and and but yeah, let's skip into
21:01
Speaker 1: during this whole thing, shrimp gates going on. It's it's
21:05
Speaker 1: a little bit wacky. Don't need to hear the words
21:09
Speaker 1: shrimp ever again, jo Shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp.
21:15
Speaker 1: It's a lot. So basically, guys, I mean, you you
21:18
Speaker 1: saw the episode, you know what happens. Elizabeth makes some shrimp,
21:23
Speaker 1: not a ton, you know, maybe like a twenty pieces
21:26
Speaker 1: or something, and Chanai, her arch enemy um decides that
21:34
Speaker 1: she's going to go take like like fifty of the
21:37
Speaker 1: shrimp because she calls out for everybody to help themselves,
21:43
Speaker 1: and she certainly helps themselves, so helps herself. And it
21:48
Speaker 1: doesn't go over very well. Of course there's tension from it,
21:52
Speaker 1: but shouldn't. I also doesn't eat them all for herself.
21:57
Speaker 1: She does go around and like offer them and she
22:00
Speaker 1: of course makes it the biggest deal because during this offering,
22:05
Speaker 1: Elizabeth doesn't acknowledge the kindness you want to look at her,
22:11
Speaker 1: and it's just all ridiculous. And this is where the
22:14
Speaker 1: drama that I normally like. I was talking to Peter yesterday, like, yeah,
22:17
Speaker 1: I do enjoy drama. It's fun. I think that, like
22:20
Speaker 1: the second episode was full of actually interesting drama. But
22:26
Speaker 1: this stuff is so silly and this doesn't keep me captivated. No,
22:32
Speaker 1: I want to know what the producers are doing at
22:34
Speaker 1: this point, Like they're sitting back to like this is awesome.
22:36
Speaker 1: This is gonna be so good. She's gonna take some
22:39
Speaker 1: shrimp and it's gonna be a big deal and then
22:42
Speaker 1: we're gonna make everybody talk about it for a long
22:45
Speaker 1: portion of this episode and totally distract from anything else
22:49
Speaker 1: going on. I you know, I don't even know how
22:55
Speaker 1: to respond to this, Ashley, because I feel like, as
22:58
Speaker 1: a viewer, I was watching this being like, both of
23:01
Speaker 1: these people should not make a big deal about it.
23:04
Speaker 1: Elizabeth made shrimp, she offered it up like, oh, you
23:09
Speaker 1: know whatever, that's great. We had a lot of people
23:11
Speaker 1: when we were in the house cooking food for other people.
23:14
Speaker 1: They loved cooking, or they knew how to cook, and
23:16
Speaker 1: they would cook and offer it up to the masses
23:19
Speaker 1: to enjoy. Now, Elizabeth did that and Chaney took it. Now,
23:23
Speaker 1: should have say, taken the shrimp from the some from
23:27
Speaker 1: the person that she's in, you know, disagreements with No.
23:31
Speaker 1: I don't think I was smart. I think she knew
23:33
Speaker 1: a little bit that it was gonna cause dramma being antagonistic. Yeah,
23:37
Speaker 1: but at the same time, Elizabeth could have just shaken
23:41
Speaker 1: it off, made a little more shrimp. She's not paying
23:43
Speaker 1: for the shrimp. The show's paying for the shrimp. She
23:46
Speaker 1: could have passed the shrimp off, made a little bit more.
23:50
Speaker 1: Said Hey, I'm just not going to get in the
23:52
Speaker 1: weeds on this. But I think at this point we're
23:54
Speaker 1: kind of in the the cyclone of issue right now,
24:02
Speaker 1: like where they're arguing. Yeah, so this thing was a mess.
24:08
Speaker 1: Um absolutely a mess, so weird, but it's not gonna stop.
24:12
Speaker 1: We're in the cyclone of drama right now. I think
24:15
Speaker 1: drama everything is gonna be a little sensitive, and I
24:17
Speaker 1: think that's what we saw here. Well, Ashley, we have
24:20
Speaker 1: one more group date to get to in this podcast.
24:22
Speaker 1: At this point, you're pretty close to falling asleep. I
24:28
Speaker 1: stayed up through the actual um bay Watch part of it. Okay,
24:35
Speaker 1: you know when it comes to the kitchy dates like this,
24:39
Speaker 1: I actually kind of enjoyed it because I don't know,
24:45
Speaker 1: I guess like you have all the girls in the
24:47
Speaker 1: same outfit and they're they're participating in the same competition,
24:52
Speaker 1: and we gotta figure out which one's as the best.
24:54
Speaker 1: I mean, the Salomo running was kind of fun. I
24:58
Speaker 1: actually think that Sena mean like she made a a move,
25:03
Speaker 1: her move like it worked. She was hot. I think
25:07
Speaker 1: he was into it. Um. Then there was Gabby who
25:12
Speaker 1: showed off her goofy side and who else like kind
25:17
Speaker 1: of stud Like. You know what's weird is we haven't
25:19
Speaker 1: seen a lot of teddy teddy's on this date such
25:22
Speaker 1: a like a just a standout on night one, and
25:26
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen her make a dent thus far.
25:28
Speaker 1: But I don't think that means anything. I think she's
25:31
Speaker 1: gonna be around for quite some time. I kind of
25:34
Speaker 1: thought this date was was a fun watch, easy crazy. Yeah,
25:38
Speaker 1: it wasn't bad. Like I didn't hate it. Um, we
25:41
Speaker 1: saw a lot of it in the teasers and the promos.
25:42
Speaker 1: I didn't know what they're going to do with it,
25:44
Speaker 1: but it was like a funny day. It was goofy.
25:47
Speaker 1: It was good. Um. Not a lot for me came
25:50
Speaker 1: from it, Like I didn't take a lot of it. Um,
25:54
Speaker 1: but it was it was good. It was it was
25:57
Speaker 1: what it is. Now we do ever, and I believe
26:01
Speaker 1: I'm in the right section of this show. It's kind
26:03
Speaker 1: of a blur right now. But we have the Shenane
26:05
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Um issue kind of popping up again, and she
26:10
Speaker 1: is making comments about her a d h D which
26:12
Speaker 1: is just inappropriate. It's not okay, it's not right because
26:16
Speaker 1: a lot I can't deal with with. I think this
26:19
Speaker 1: is ridiculous when she's bringing this up. Uh the okay.
26:22
Speaker 1: When I said earlier in the episode that there was
26:25
Speaker 1: parts where I was like, I feel I feel this girl.
26:27
Speaker 1: It was it was when they got the date card
26:30
Speaker 1: and it was like we're going to the beach and
26:32
Speaker 1: all the girls were like bit like as if somebody
26:38
Speaker 1: told them that they were going to like the south
26:40
Speaker 1: of France. And then she was like I hate these girls,
26:43
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I love that. That's hilarious. But besides that,
26:46
Speaker 1: now she's been pretty awful. Yeah. No, I mean that
26:49
Speaker 1: that part is is okay, you know, it's it's it's
26:52
Speaker 1: a funny moment. But this d h D thing, a
26:55
Speaker 1: d h D stuff, needs to stop. It's not okay.
26:59
Speaker 1: It's using somebody's um insecurities, um mental health against them.
27:08
Speaker 1: And she day has no backing for anything she's saying.
27:11
Speaker 1: She has no clue what's going on, and it's just
27:15
Speaker 1: it's not fun to watch, Like, I just don't enjoy it.
27:17
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy I mean, this is bowling one oh one, right,
27:21
Speaker 1: I mean when you take somebody's you know, vulnerabilities of
27:25
Speaker 1: opening up to you again and using it against him,
27:27
Speaker 1: like that's that's wrong. It's not, it's not it's not okay.
27:31
Speaker 1: If you open up to me, Ashley and you're like,
27:33
Speaker 1: I'm really nervous about having this child, and that's the
27:37
Speaker 1: best a big deal to say, Like not every new
27:39
Speaker 1: mom would say that that's a big deal. And I said,
27:41
Speaker 1: at some point I would use that against you in
27:44
Speaker 1: a in a mean way. You know that would hurt
27:48
Speaker 1: you deeply, And you can't defend yourself because that was
27:54
Speaker 1: something you opened up about, and so you can't even like,
27:57
Speaker 1: like the only thing you can stay up for yourself
27:59
Speaker 1: against is saying like, yeah, that's who I am, that's
28:02
Speaker 1: what it's going on in me and and that's just
28:04
Speaker 1: not fun for me to watch. I wanted to stop.
28:07
Speaker 1: It needs to stop, and it feels like most of
28:10
Speaker 1: the viewership is calling for it to stop, like, hey,
28:14
Speaker 1: can we just like good over this? And can Cheney
28:17
Speaker 1: at least admit that she was wrong? And I don't
28:19
Speaker 1: know if we're ever going to get there. Well, yeah,
28:22
Speaker 1: the thing about this whole drama is that she's like
28:25
Speaker 1: hates Elizabeth and we have no freaking idea why she
28:30
Speaker 1: just picked somebody random in the house she makes fun
28:33
Speaker 1: of to put hatred toward and that is like pretty
28:37
Speaker 1: much definition bullying, right. Yeah, And we see the women
28:40
Speaker 1: getting sick of this drama. It feels like some of
28:42
Speaker 1: the only drama that's kind of like surfacing right now.
28:45
Speaker 1: The women are getting sick of it. I hope it
28:47
Speaker 1: ends soon. We always say this about week four or five.
28:49
Speaker 1: Hopefully it starts to end and the drama more comes
28:52
Speaker 1: up with like emotion of how much like Clayton and
28:55
Speaker 1: less about each other. But that's where the episode ends.
28:58
Speaker 1: That's what we have to look forward to for that
29:00
Speaker 1: this week, it's the cliffhanger of what's gonna go on?
29:02
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? That's this week's episode. Actually fall asleep
29:05
Speaker 1: during it. I was very impartial to it. I thought
29:08
Speaker 1: there was good moments. I thought there was okay moments.
29:11
Speaker 1: I thought, for the most part, this is the weakest
29:14
Speaker 1: episode we've seen by far this season. I'm hoping next
29:18
Speaker 1: week picks it up a bit, and I think it will. Um,
29:22
Speaker 1: just wasn't that fun for me other than a few
29:25
Speaker 1: dates like one one maybe Caitlin's date. I like that,
29:27
Speaker 1: and the Baywatch date was kind of like entertaining. But
29:30
Speaker 1: I was also on my phone texting during it, like
29:32
Speaker 1: I'm out. So that's this week's episode of the Bachelor.
29:36
Speaker 1: Let's take a break here. When we come back, we're
29:38
Speaker 1: a breakdown Bachelor Nation headlines. On this week's headlines, We've
29:53
Speaker 1: got a big one during Kimball, Mary's Christina Creeden. We
29:57
Speaker 1: have two marriages this week. We do. It's a it's
30:00
Speaker 1: something to celebrate. We have a lot of good headlines
30:02
Speaker 1: this week, which I always like enjoy. But the quote
30:05
Speaker 1: from them was it was an emotional night. Yes, So, um,
30:12
Speaker 1: we've seen Jordan Kimball cry before, you know, I'm not
30:16
Speaker 1: surprised that he cried seeing his bride, he said, seeing
30:20
Speaker 1: her for the first time, we didn't do a first look.
30:22
Speaker 1: It was at the end of the aisle in her dress.
30:24
Speaker 1: I started crying. Uh. He said that he for sure
30:28
Speaker 1: thought he would be able to keep it together, though,
30:30
Speaker 1: he said, ever since the moment, ever since that moment,
30:35
Speaker 1: I've realized how important she is to me. Um. I
30:38
Speaker 1: mean to cry in front of lifelong friends and family
30:41
Speaker 1: and everything. I never I never loved her as much
30:44
Speaker 1: as I do today. The whole day was so calm.
30:47
Speaker 1: I was just so relaxed, and then right before I
30:50
Speaker 1: started walking down with my dad, I literally lost it.
30:54
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop crying. That's so cute. He also says
31:00
Speaker 1: he was like blindsided by this love and she's just
31:02
Speaker 1: the sweetest person. He can't handle how sweet, genuine and
31:05
Speaker 1: true her heart is. He feels like a protector. He's
31:08
Speaker 1: here to support her Um, and they will always have
31:14
Speaker 1: He says. We always share different kinds of perspectives, but
31:17
Speaker 1: but from coming from the Bachelor to this would to
31:20
Speaker 1: the Bachelor kind of prepared me in a way that
31:23
Speaker 1: I was ready to take UM. This all seriously so great.
31:27
Speaker 1: We also have this weekend other wedding that happened before
31:32
Speaker 1: this week, but it's something to celebrate. Direk Paith one
31:34
Speaker 1: of our favorite Mary's model Saffron this gorn to e.
31:39
Speaker 1: Did you know that they're getting married this week? They
31:42
Speaker 1: were married? I think previously? Really were they married at
31:45
Speaker 1: your wedding? I believe they were, um, based on you know,
31:50
Speaker 1: she lives in London, he lives in the United States.
31:53
Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out how to make that work.
31:55
Speaker 1: But they announced that this week, and so we can
31:57
Speaker 1: start celebrating this week. So if you haven't, you gotta
31:59
Speaker 1: go out there and stilebrate them. Oh that's so awesome. Um. Yeah,
32:03
Speaker 1: they just showed off their wedding rings on Instagram. It
32:06
Speaker 1: said one fourteen one. Yeah, yeah, that's when they got
32:14
Speaker 1: I think that's when they officially got married. No way,
32:18
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a big deal. They're two incredible people.
32:22
Speaker 1: We got to celebrate them. They're awesome. Well, onto some
32:26
Speaker 1: sadder news. Uh we did here this week that Marissa
32:32
Speaker 1: and Riley from Bachelor in Paradise did officially split. There's
32:35
Speaker 1: a rumors out there. We had kind of talked about it,
32:38
Speaker 1: suspected it, but it is now official. Yeah, it's sad,
32:42
Speaker 1: but we did see the writing on the wall there.
32:45
Speaker 1: She deleted all the pictures of him off Instagram a
32:49
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He did not UM, but they
32:53
Speaker 1: haven't posted of each other since, you know, mid December,
32:57
Speaker 1: late December. Um, there was a mutual statement that came
33:03
Speaker 1: out announcing the split. You know, maybe Ben, we can
33:09
Speaker 1: now get we can now figure out if she did
33:12
Speaker 1: kiss somebody else on the beaches paradise. Not to make
33:16
Speaker 1: light of this very sad situation, it was a historic
33:19
Speaker 1: engagement too. It was the first were really helping black
33:23
Speaker 1: people to get engaged. I'm on the Bachelor franchise. Yeah,
33:26
Speaker 1: we're hoping it worked. But you know what, you can't
33:29
Speaker 1: be upset with him for not working. That just happens.
33:31
Speaker 1: And uh, you know we've all had that, you and
33:34
Speaker 1: I both So another interesting headline, Tasha Adams exits Bachelor
33:39
Speaker 1: Nation podcast Clickbait Your Booth takes Over. I'm actually quite
33:44
Speaker 1: interested by this, but we don't really have a lot
33:46
Speaker 1: of information. UM. Tasia hasn't said anything about her exiting
33:53
Speaker 1: these podcasts. She did take the podcast names off of
33:55
Speaker 1: her Instagram profile. UM, but it was the host of
34:00
Speaker 1: Clickbait that announced it Joe Ambla. He said that she
34:06
Speaker 1: is now being replaced by Tia Uh. Natasha Parker is
34:11
Speaker 1: also still there, interested to know why she decided to leave.
34:15
Speaker 1: She was kind of bouncing between Clickbait and um Bachelor
34:20
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. She's no longer the host of Clickbait. Well,
34:24
Speaker 1: on the Happier News, Raven and Adam welcome their first baby.
34:29
Speaker 1: They said, little man made it is there? Quote? Okay,
34:34
Speaker 1: how cute is this child? His name is Gates z
34:40
Speaker 1: got Stock and gots Stock. It was funny because Raven
34:44
Speaker 1: was on my other podcast couple months ago and she
34:47
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just learning kind of kind of how
34:49
Speaker 1: to say my new last name got Struck. So good. Um,
34:55
Speaker 1: this kid is so cute. Do you have to go
34:57
Speaker 1: check him out on Instagram. I have talked to Raven.
35:01
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell her birth story, but damn guys,
35:03
Speaker 1: she went through the ringer. She is a wonder woman.
35:09
Speaker 1: She may or may not talk about it one day,
35:10
Speaker 1: but like, well, that's all that's important is that she
35:13
Speaker 1: and baby Gates are doing really well. Yeah. Well, final
35:16
Speaker 1: headline of the week. Clayton is our bachelor right now.
35:20
Speaker 1: He's responding to the TikTok rumors about past relationships, uh
35:26
Speaker 1: and escapades, and his quote is I never claimed to
35:28
Speaker 1: be a saint. Well, no you didn't. That's fair. But
35:32
Speaker 1: he is responding to these which, you know, put some
35:35
Speaker 1: weight behind him. Hey, Ben, do you even know about this?
35:39
Speaker 1: Do you know about this TikTok? I? I saw it
35:43
Speaker 1: because I feel like somebody on our text dress stupid
35:49
Speaker 1: you sent it to me. Oh well, somebody had sent
35:52
Speaker 1: it to me, and I think I passed on to you,
35:53
Speaker 1: Like what the heck is going on? So some guy
35:56
Speaker 1: like eating ramen right, being like, oh, I was watching
35:58
Speaker 1: TV and this guy popped up, and uh, I noticed
36:01
Speaker 1: him because he was the same guy that was, you know,
36:03
Speaker 1: hooking up with my girlfriend. Yeah. Basically, the guy in
36:07
Speaker 1: the TikTok says that he like walked in on his
36:10
Speaker 1: girlfriend and Clayton hooking up. I mean we're not saying
36:15
Speaker 1: like Clayton doesn't know. He may not have known that
36:19
Speaker 1: this girl is in a relationship area and we have yeah,
36:22
Speaker 1: we we have no details. I can just tell you
36:25
Speaker 1: that this is what Clayton saying. He says, as far
36:27
Speaker 1: as addressing what I've seen online, Yeah, I've seen these
36:31
Speaker 1: TikTok's come up lately regarding my past or you know,
36:34
Speaker 1: the relationships that I've had in the past. Listen, here's
36:37
Speaker 1: the thing. I've never claimed to be a saint, per
36:39
Speaker 1: se um or a settle bit. For the last six
36:43
Speaker 1: years of my single life. Yeah, I was single and
36:46
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that singleness. There was a period of my life.
36:48
Speaker 1: Or yeah, I wasn't looking for anything serious and I
36:51
Speaker 1: was just having fun and enjoying the aspect of dating.
36:54
Speaker 1: It is what it is. So yeah, we we don't
36:57
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what happened there. But
37:00
Speaker 1: maybe he did hook up with a girl who had
37:01
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. But like also maybe he had no idea
37:04
Speaker 1: that the girl had a boyfriend. Yeah, like, yeah, we
37:07
Speaker 1: have no backstory of this other than the fact that
37:09
Speaker 1: he's responding to it. And typically, if you know, you
37:12
Speaker 1: respond to something that like has hit you at some
37:14
Speaker 1: level personally, but he is responding to Well, that's all
37:17
Speaker 1: the headlines we have for today, and that's the podcast
37:19
Speaker 1: this week. We'll be back next week breaking down the
37:21
Speaker 1: fourth episode of Clayton season of the Bachelor. We'll be
37:25
Speaker 1: here doing it. Ashley and I'll actually be I think
37:28
Speaker 1: in uh San Francisco for this episode with the whole
37:32
Speaker 1: I Heart team. We're gonna be doing an event at
37:35
Speaker 1: the A T and T Pebble Beach Pro Am. I'm
37:38
Speaker 1: not playing in the premium, but I'll be there watching it.
37:41
Speaker 1: Um and Ashley, you will be back home. He's going
37:44
Speaker 1: with you like any Bachelor contestant. Yeah. I think Dean
37:47
Speaker 1: will be there. Wells is gonna be there. Um. I
37:51
Speaker 1: believe that's it for right now. I don't know. I
37:53
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have some special episodes going on that
37:56
Speaker 1: week Boys Weekend Dolphin. That's right. It's gonna be a blast.
38:00
Speaker 1: But we'll be back talking about Clayton's season then. Until then,
38:03
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