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125) From Stressed BBC Journalist to Becoming a Digital Nomad: How Lara Escaped Corporate · Digital Nomad Life Podcast

• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Hey there and welcome to the Digital Nomad Life Podcast.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Krista, and I am here today in a live studio in Bali, Indonesia, with my friend Laura Misa, who I have met recently but have been very impressed by her story and wanted her to be able to share her story with you.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think if you are someone who is wanting to free your life, you want to start working online, but not just working online, you want to do work that feels really meaningful, maybe work that actually feels like it's aligned with your soul's purpose.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think Lara's story will really inspire you to start exploring maybe in deeper ways that you might not have considered.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: So Lara's story, you'll hear all about it, but she starts off in London in a pretty normal kind of career situation as a journalist.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: And today she is a spiritual guide and teacher and is taking people through these amazing pilgrimages and journeys through Egypt.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't wait for her to share all the details about how she went from yes, this uh very traditional kind of lifestyle into living a life that is fully aligned with her soul's purpose.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: So can't wait.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: And Lara, thank you so much for being here.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me, babe.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Did I get your introduction?
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: You nailed it.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: We literally nailed it.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was perfect.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, maybe we can just do a quick snapshot right now about what your lifestyle looks like and the way that your career kind of affects your lifestyle.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'd love for us to go back in time and talk about where you started.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: So, what's life like today?
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, I feel so profoundly blessed and privileged to live the lifestyle that I live today.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's a life that I could not have even dreamed of, even in my wildest imagination, would never have fathomed.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: Just the things that are now, I wouldn't say normal, they're they're so magical to me still, but just so much abundance, so much peace, so much freedom, so much just excitement and like the juiciness of life is very present in my day-to-day.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: And like a little snapshot of what that looks like.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I live in Bali most of the year.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: I travel back and forth between Egypt and Bali, where I do the journeys in Egypt where I'm from.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, my life and the way that I live my life is at quite a slow pace, I would say.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I used to be a workaholic and had some severe experiences with burnout, which we can talk about um later, but I'm really in a place now where I don't set an alarm in the morning unless I have like a specific, you know, meeting, but I wake up naturally without an alarm.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm up, I go to the gym, I go for morning walks, I do my practices, you know, whether that be meditation or journaling or sitting at my altar.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: I have a really healthy, delicious breakfast.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: I have my coffee, I work out, I and I pretty much don't start working most days until about probably 12 or 1 or sometimes 2 p.m.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: Say much.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: I have a very I have a I like a long, luscious morningslash afternoon.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then yeah, and then in the afternoon after I've worked out, done all my things, showered, then I'll either just work from home or I'll do like co-working like we did the other day, you know, meet up with some girlfriends, we'll do some co-working.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just get things done, just creating, writing, um, birthing new offerings, attending to, you know, group programs that I'm hosting, uh, working with my one-on-one clients.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: And then, yeah, and then in the evenings, it's just like time with my partner, dinner, maybe a sunset walk, maybe some more social things if I feel up for it.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I just I feel like I'm just so blessed with the lifestyle that I live now.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that description.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure there's someone listening right now that's I just always imagine somebody in their commute to work.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: I get a lot of listeners that tell me they hear, they listen to this on their commute, and the contrast just is so extreme.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: But speaking of contrast, so you just shared with us your slow, luscious schedule as an entrepreneur.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: What was your schedule like in your previous life?
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: So it, you know, talk about contrast.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, as you mentioned, um I went to film school.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: That was my background.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: I've always been an artist at heart, creative.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so after university, I pretty much straight away ended up in a very rigorous um training.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was like a TV production training for one year at the BBC.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so I worked on a number of different programs within the current affairs department.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember specifically one chapter of that I was working for a show called Newsnight.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: And it's one of those current affairs analysis programs on the BBC.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it's where literally you would get up, be in the office at 7 a.m.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: So, like waking up super early.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: I would commute, you know, walk to the train station, get in the tube, you know, for those who are familiar with London, the tube, it's like rush hour.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: There's like you feel like you're literally in like a sardine camp.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, in a sardine, like just the New York City suburbs.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, and then just a, you know, probably like 40 minutes to an hour, commute to work, um, get into the office, be there by 7 a.m.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then we would have the team meeting at about nine o'clock.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: And because it's of the nature of this program, basically the whole program would be produced that day.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: So the show was live at 10 p.m., 8 a.m.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: or 9 a.m., we would have the team meeting.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: We would be like, okay, what are the major stories today?
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: What do we want to cover?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_02: What are the core like key things that are in the headlines that we want to discuss?
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then the whole day, everyone would be assigned to the different stories that would make up the show.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then we'd be literally on the phones, on the phones, trying to get interviews with the relevant politicians or lawyers or celebrities or authors or experts or whoever that would be.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it was pretty like intense long days, all the way up until the show would be live at 10 p.m.
• 10:21
  unknown: Right?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_02: So it was like a crazy, crazy long day.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_02: And then after the show, um, because it was so late when we would finish at like midnight, they would arrange for you to get like a black cab taxi back home.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I just remember being in that environment and I was working with, you know, truly some of the world's most like renowned journalists and like super intelligent people, but very cutthroat energy.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, journalism, and it's like so quick, and everyone's just like the phones are going off.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_02: It was like a really intense environment.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I would get on the get in the black cab, and then on the ride home, which was like another 40 minutes to an hour, I would have my copy of The Economist and I would be like reading all these articles to, you know, because you wanna, you have to stay relevant.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're or not stay relevant, but you have to be aware of what's going on in the world in order to make meaningful contributions in these different meetings and sharing different perspectives.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I was at the beginning of my career, so I was like young and you know, eager to learn and wanted to make a good impression and wanted to, you know, do my best.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: And actually, I remember I forgot to say my alarm clock waking up at six in the morning.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_02: I had it set to the uh the radio.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I would wake up to the news.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: My heart hurts.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: I would literally, can you imagine?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: I would wake up to the news and literally my phone, it was constant notifications, all of the like BBC, The Economist, the Guardian, I was like subscribed on all the things.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like constant information overload, trying to keep up and being so exposed to really some, you know, we don't need to really look far to see how much distortion there is in the world and in politics and, you know, the wars and famines and just all kinds of um, you know, games that are that are being played right now on the world stage.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: So that was literally my life.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I, you know, it was exhausting.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: I was so tired.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: I was um working on the side as a photographer as well.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I was also trying to build up my portfolio.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: So on the weekends, I would then go shoot at weddings, festivals.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that was really fun.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: And that I really did enjoy that.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: But it was just constant work, constant output, you know, working as a freelancer as well.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: Again, trying to stay relevant and like, God forbid, you go on holiday for like two weeks, and that's enough time for people to just completely forget that you exist, and then you have to start over with networking and you know, it's just this constant rat race of trying to stay, yeah, stay relevant and known and to build a name for yourself in such a saturated market where there's so much competition, you know, London as well.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's a big city, yeah.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's a cold city, it's pretty gray and gloomy.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I was honestly moving through some of the heaviest seasons of depression living there, you know, and that and I I had so many amazing experiences.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: Don't get me wrong, London is a fantastic city, and I made incredible friends there, and I was so lucky to work with some truly phenomenal individuals, but for on a soul level and just like a like a deeper, you know, even on a physical level, like I was tired.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh as you were just describing that, I literally felt my nervous system hearing that story, being like, oh my gosh, this is so intense.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: This was normal.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: The whole thing about what you wake up and then you immediately fill your brain with stressful content when your brain, I don't know if anybody listening to this knows about brain waves, but your brain is in a highly susceptible place right when you wake up and when you fill it with chaos like that and just uh stressful stories, it affects your whole day.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: So you were literally starting your day, which was would have been stressful enough.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: And ending it too.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: It was just constant.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: But that's that's the ecosystem of journalism and current affairs and breaking news and the headlines, and you know, just really needing to stay on the beat.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, like I said, you're young and starting out your career.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: You're, I mean, this was a very prestigious training that I, you know, there were like, I think there were over 800 applicants to this training and only 14 people got it.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a big opportunity.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so, of course, you, you know, you're young, you're impressionable, you wanna, you wanna make a good impression and and have something to contribute.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was a it was a very um, it was a very important part of my past, for sure.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I I mean, not that my story was the same, but like the comparisons with mine, I not London, but New York City, not journalism, but public relations.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just the commute, everything.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I just know that people listening, whether you have Lara or my exact story or your own unique version, I'm sure there's so much of that that you can relate to, like the feeling of just having this stress as soon as you wake up and then spending all of your waking hours, all of your actual energy pouring into something that is uh yeah, just a big corporation.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: But okay, so we can sit here in our cozy little place in Bali being like, oh my gosh, it's so bad.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: But um, we, I'm sure myself, but probably you too, had a dream before we started those kind of corporate matrix-y careers.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so what were you looking forward to when you were younger before getting into this?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why was why was that life appealing?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I think I was very uh very blessed in my upbringing.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: So my dad was also a journalist.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: He was definitely a big inspiration for me for even wanting to go down that path.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: My family is pretty creative in general.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: My mom's a jewelry designer, and uh yeah, we've just always been very into the arts and literature and films as a family.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but beyond that, because my dad was a journalist, we would travel a lot.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: And um, he would usually have postings for four years at a time.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I was born in Egypt, but then pretty much my entire childhood, you know, all the way up until high school, we were pretty much moving back and forth between Egypt and then Thailand and other parts of Southeast Asia.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I think from a very young age, I was just very immersed in different cultures, and Southeast Asia really was like a second home for me.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we lived in uh one place at one point in Bientian in Lao, right next to a temple.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I would hear the gongs every morning at 5 a.m.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: We'd see the monks every day going on their alms rounds, and you know, it so I think that definitely planted a seed as to, you know, how I ended up in Bali, Southeast Asia.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: It just it it really does feel like home to me.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: And Cairo, where I lived in Egypt, it's a huge city.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's actually even maybe a hundred times more chaotic than London, if you can imagine it.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I think it was always just this deeper desire, which I think every human being has, to be more in nature, like just really simple, to not live in these like concrete blocks that are, you know, quite cut off actually from so much of what I feel truly gives us our life force and you know, our ability to be present and to connect and to just unplug literally from all the distractions of modern life and technology and work and our phones and Instagram and all of these things.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I would say that was um the seed that was planted.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: That kind of got you from where you were in London to maybe here now.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure there were so many steps in between there and now.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm curious, what was a turning point for you?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: So you're in London, you're working your ass off.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hustling.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Hustling hustle was my middle name, literally.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: And like I wore it as a badge of honor.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I was like, and I yeah, it was just this the badge of like, oh, I'm so busy.
• 19:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: I've got so much going on, I'm shooting this festival, and then I've got another shoot here, and then I've got meetings, and then I've got this, and then it was yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think busyness makes us, or well, it can make us feel important, make us feel needed, make us feel like we're contributing something valuable.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I'm sure that you were benefiting from that, from your career earlier on in some ways, but then something obviously happened where it started shifting.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: So can you talk a bit about what was that turning point you mentioned you experienced some pretty extreme burnout?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: So it was really getting to a point where I was getting physically sick a lot.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like I would literally make like I would work myself to the bone, literally.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was like working so much, not taking proper care of myself, you know, not eating properly, just like literally grabbing lunch on the go and like just marching down Oxford Street with the sandwich and then going straight into another meeting.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, I wasn't taking care of myself.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so, of course, I was um getting really sick a lot, like just flu, fever, like constantly had a cold.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and because I was so busy and I was so sucked into this matrix and just like being on the tube every day for like minimum two hours, it was just starting to wear me down.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I felt like I didn't have time for the things that I actually really cared about, the things that I, you know, felt deeply connected to.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and for me, that was really my spiritual practice.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I was always quite spiritually inclined, as I said, living in in places like Thailand and next to living next to a temple, like that was always kind of in my field.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I was very interested in Buddhism from a relatively young age.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was meditating from a relatively young age as well.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: But then during this whole season in London, it was like all of that went out the window.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like I wasn't meditating anymore, I wasn't doing any of my practices.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: I You wouldn't have had time.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't have time and I and I felt it.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_02: I could I was observing myself in this state of disconnection, but felt unable to do anything about it because it was just so overwhelming and intense.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: I just had to kind of stay afloat and and not waste this big opportunity that that I had.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um but then I think there was just a turning point where I think we've we've all been there, and maybe some of the listeners are almost at that point themselves where it was just like I just can't do this anymore.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: I just can't do this anymore.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I think around that same time I saw um, I don't even remember where it was, but it was some like maybe it was a post on Instagram about a healing retreat in Bali.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I saw that and I just immediately had this yeah, just this deep knowing that I was supposed to be there.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_02: And at that time, I had just finished my training with the BBC and I was working now for an independent production company, a film company in London.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: And my boss was truly to this day like a guardian angel of my life.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm so, so deeply grateful for this man because, you know, when I told him about what I was going through and I was like, I think I'm having a quarter life crisis, Hugo.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Man, you know, I hear you.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, you know, I saw this retreat in Bali.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm gonna go.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: Would it do you mind if I take the time off?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Yeah, go for it, you know, just so supportive.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, um, and it was so funny actually, because I remember I just I signed up for the retreat and it was like all good to go.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: It was the last spot that was available.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then I remember in my bedroom in London, freezing cold, like just huddled up with blankets, and I was booking the flight and to Bali.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember I had everything open, I was like about to hit purchase, and then I just kind of I got a little bit scared.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: There was a bit of resistance, and I was like, Oh, am I really doing this?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like there was just a little block, and I thought, okay, you know what?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna sleep on it and book it tomorrow.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: And then literally, I kid you not, this has never happened to me, and it still to this day has never happened.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: Suddenly my phone starts ringing and I get I pick up the phone and it's like, hi, uh, yeah, this is so-and-so from Qatar Airlines or whatever airline it was.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, Yeah, we we noticed that you were just about to book a flight, um, but we noticed that you you didn't book or it didn't go through.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Do you need any support?
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Can we help you with booking it?
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: We're like, we'll give you like a free upgrade, like we'll move your so that you have like and I was like, This is insane.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, this has literally never happened in like I've never got my number.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's it was so wild, but it just felt it wasn't like a pushy sales guy trying to, it was actually truly like, hey, can I shook, can I support you?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: And it was just in that moment, I really just took it as a sign as okay, no, you're supported, you're meant to go.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: So I I just went ahead and booked and he upgraded my my seat and everything.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then um, yeah, I went to this uh incredible retreat in Bali, and that that really that was a major, major turning point for me.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: I had that is one of my favorite stories I've literally heard.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: I love that so much.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: That is insane.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Literally, I was like, this, I this is unheard of.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: I was just like, oh.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: So what happened on the retreat that made it such a turning point?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_02: So it was a healing retreat that was primarily focused on healing trauma.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that had a lot of traumatic experiences throughout my life that were mostly of a sexual nature.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: And so that was a big piece um for me that I was ready to, you know, to really look at and to work through.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it was such a powerful retreat, and you know, it was led by this amazing woman, uh, Gabby, Gabby Francis.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: And essentially all these different facilitators came on the retreat.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: So there was like a breath work facilitator, there was like a sound healer, there was a photographer who took nude photos of all the women.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: That was such a that was such a powerful experience.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: So, um Yeah, it was really just focused on healing, womb healing as well.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I think, you know, that's the whole point of a retreat, right?
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's literally to retreat out of the chaos and the noise of modern life and of just all the, you know, all the the ways that we kind of sometimes just get too overwhelmed to even just really take care of ourselves.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, being human is hard.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Being an adult is hard.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: Adulting is hard.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's a lot going on, there's a lot of responsibility.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't even have children.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: I can't even imagine what, you know, that's a whole other octave of adulting and responsibility.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, and so I remember actually very vividly after the breathwork session, um, I remember we were laying down and I just had this very, very strong message come through, which was you need to live here.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: You need to live in Bali.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I just thought, okay, I don't know how this is gonna happen, but I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna trust the message and just I don't know, just go from there.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: It w I didn't like have a plan or anything, but it was like a very loud and clear thing of okay, you're meant to be here.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that was that started the process of me kind of unraveling my life from being in London.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I'm still here now, six years later in Bali.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, amazing.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so you were on this retreat, you got a strong message.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering if whoever's listening, if you've ever received a message.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: And that message could be from, I don't know, Laura, I'm curious about your perspective on that.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, where are these messages coming from?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Was it was it you?
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Was it your imagination?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Was it like an anxiety-based thought?
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: Was it fear-based?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Was it spiritual?
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like what is that?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I think for me, whenever you receive, let's say, a message that's related to your, you know, your destiny, your highest path, your purpose, your soul's purpose, whatever you want to call it, it's never anxiety-based.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's never fear-based.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_02: So if it's fear or anxiety, it's not to say that they can't exist because sometimes following our highest calling is uh fucking scary.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: And that that's very real.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: But in in the moment of actually receiving that first, it might not even come through necessarily as a message, like a a voice that you hear in your head, or although that can happen too, but it could even just be like a knowing.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like you just feel it.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Suddenly you're just like, oh my God, I need to be here.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like I just, you know, so it can come in many different ways.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I think it's really just trusting ultimately what is your heart's desire.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and if it, if it even if it feels stretchy and scary, and you're like, oh my gosh, it doesn't even make sense.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: How am I gonna do this?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah you'll you'll know, like you'll feel it in your heart, this longing of, oh, but this just feels right, and I want this, and it is a risk, but the universe rewards risk every time.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, beautiful.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think that it would have been as possible for you to receive a message like that had you not gone on the retreat?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_02: It would have probably been significantly harder.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I think people can, you know, you can receive messages all the time, but the thing is you do have to create space and stillness to even be of a vibration, a frequency, an openness, a relaxation to even receive something that is coming from a higher place.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: That could be your higher self, it could be like your few future you, it could be ancestor, it could be God, it could be source, spirit, whatever higher intelligence that you believe in.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um you do like, period.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: You you there you have to create space for it, even if that looks like a meditation practice.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's why I was so not in a good place during that time in London, because I wasn't even, I didn't, I wasn't creating those pockets of time for myself at all.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: As I said, all my practices went out the window.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: When you were talking about when you were in London and how you had abandoned the meditation practice, I was imagining you like operating on this frequency day in and day out, where you wake up and then boom, straight into stress and then straight onto the stressful subway, and then straight into your stressful job, and then straight into the stress of reading The Economist when you're in the taxi on the way back, and then going straight to sleep and then doing it all over again.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: To go from that level of frenetic frequency down to a meditation would be such a big drop that of course you abandon your meditation practice.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if there's somebody listening that feels like they're in that frenetic energy right now, do you have any words of wisdom for them or advice to start creating some spaciousness in their life so that they can start opening themselves up to the messages that will allow them to make a change in their life?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think it's always better to do something consistently, even if it's just for a short amount of time, versus try to give yourself this huge task of okay, now I suddenly need to change my entire lifestyle and I suddenly need to meditate for an hour a day.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's just that can happen for some people, but I find that it's often easier just to go bit by bit.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I think using things as bridges that are slowly gonna get you back to that higher frequency, that more still spacious um state.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: So, for example, if you're like, okay, I'm I don't know if I'm ready to have a meditation practice.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: How about go for a morning walk?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: Go for a morning walk.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_02: Don't be listening to a podcast.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_02: Don't listen, just leave the phone at home.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_02: Cause again, it's more stimulation, more information, more input, which we're trying to clear.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, go for a morning walk or go to your favorite cafe and just sit and have a coffee, have a tea, like just and just enjoy, enjoy, like create these little moments, these little pockets of pausing and and stillness, and then working yourself um back there.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: But then sometimes you do need that big drastic change, which was that was what it was for me.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I just need to actually change my whole environment and I actually need to take a break.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: I actually need to fully unplug from this matrix that I'm in.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: And for me, that looked like going on this retreat, which I didn't even really look for the retreat.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: It kind of just showed up and it I followed the the step.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love thinking about how the internet algorithms sometimes deliver the message exactly when you need to hear.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think messages can be received for in so many different mediums.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's just a voice or like a thought that pops into your head out of nowhere when when you are in stillness.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: And other times it could literally be when you're when you're doom scrolling, but then something catches your attention and you realize, oh, wait, hold on.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, this is catching my attention and I want to pay attention.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_02: 100%.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: So um, this is a great segue into talking about how, like what happened after that retreat.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: So you got the message loud and clear, you need to move to Bali, or something needs to change, you need to take a break.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that is a pretty extreme transition, leaving what you were doing in London.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, was that scary?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Were what were the implications of that?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, tell us about that part.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I completed the retreat, I came back to London, I was so elated.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: It was just back on my practices.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: I had a new altar that I set up, I was like back on the yoga mat.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: I was like just feeling so good.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: Love it.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: At that time, I had completed my time with the BBC, and as I said, I was working for this independent company, so that was more of a chill like environment anyway.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: Still in London, still commuting and all of that, but it was like slowly, slowly getting uh into a an environment with more ease.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_02: And then I remember we had a big project that we were about to start, like a production, and it got postponed.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: And this was maybe two months or so after I had come back from the retreat in Bali.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so again, I asked my boss, I was like, hey, Hugo.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I am thinking about going back to Bali for a month just to kind of explore and you know, just to be there, not in the context of a retreat, just to be there on my own.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I need to take some time for myself.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_02: And since the project was postponed and I was working on a freelance basis, so it wasn't, I wasn't in that nine to five anymore.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_02: It was just, you know, project by project.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, yet again, Guardian Angel.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_02: He was just like, Yeah, I think this will be great for you.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, go to Bali again, you know?
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_02: And when the project resumes, you'll come back and we'll, you know, we'll we'll make it work, no worries.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: And all it was just like it couldn't have been a greener light.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_02: And it was so funny because then our other boss, they like had dinner or something, and he said to Hugo, he was like, Did you tell Lars you could move to Bali?
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what was happening?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Hey, bye guys, I was like, going, and I was like, I'll be back in a month, you know.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as the project resumes, like I'm back in London, and that's my priority.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: But again, it was a lot of synchronistic events that were opening.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so I flew to Bali, and then three days after I landed, the pandemic was declared.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I we must have been arriving here on the same day.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, what day did you get here?
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was February.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: It was literally right before it was like a, you know, people were hearing about the bats in China or whatever that whole wild story was.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_02: So, and people were like, Are you really going to Bali now?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_02: You want to go to Asia now?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, it's fine, you know.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, when I landed, it was like the official kind of World Health Organization declaration, and the the lockdown started pretty much immediately after I landed.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: So um my flights back to London were canceled.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: I then I would book a new flight and it would get canceled, book a new flight and then it would get canceled.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: So um eventually I just kind of thought, well, this is kind of what I wanted.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I asked for.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I just, I just really took it on board and I just yeah, I just stayed.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Ugh.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Haven't left.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so crazy for the listeners.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know my story, I also kind of got ushered, I feel like energetically ushered into Bali and held here.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, Bali just has this really interesting energy that it's hard to explain, but once you get here, some people feel it, some people don't.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: But if you feel it, you know.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: And uh yeah, for me, I was in Sri Lanka before when the pandemic was being announced, and I was meant to move to Portugal for the for the rest of the year.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: I had decided I wanted to launch my business and I was really gonna bunker down.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I still had a full-time job at the time.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I was waiting for my taxi to go to the airport.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: I had had a lay layover in Dubai, and I got a vision of myself being trapped in a tall glass tower in Dubai.
• 37:44
  unknown: Oh my gosh.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because I had been reading the news about the pandemic and everything, and um, yeah, this vision, I it was so clear.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, I had my hands on the glass and I was overlooking the desert and the air conditioning was blowing on me and it was really cold.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: I like hate air conditioning.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I was like, I I can't get on that flight.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: I just I literally cannot do it.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like every cell in my body is like, nope, don't do it.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Well, what okay, what am I supposed to do now?
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, luckily I had a really good friend in Bali who was like, just come here, we'll figure it out together.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then the borders closed five days later.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, like traveling was not really a thing.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I just I'm so grateful that Mama Bali chose me, chose chose you as well.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I thank her every day.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy that we've recently just met, even though we've been here on this small island the whole time.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, okay, so you came to Bali and here you were.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: What happened next?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I yeah, I was in Bali, the pandemic was going on, and so the the funny enough, the film projects that were postponed, we actually ended up continuing them and we were actually directing this show remotely.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wow.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I was very, very blessed because I actually still had work during the pandemic for that first part.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, we essentially because they were like, well, you can't come back to London anyway, and we're all locked down at home anyway.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't matter if you're in Bali or London, nobody's even so just keep keep working.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, it was kind of rough working hours, but I was like, that's fine.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm happy to stay up late.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: This is, you know, such an alternative blessing for sure.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_02: So we continued on with that, and it was really funny because I felt like I really just had such a double life because the the documentaries that I was working on were about um cybercrime.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: It was like a true crime.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was like true crime, but for cybercrime.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it was actually for a one of the like biggest and kind of most like renowned um cybersecurity firms in the world that was our client, like our team, really.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, so I was like by night, I would be like up, like on the phones, researching, speaking to all of these like world-renowned hackers that were involved in shutting down Wall Street and Anonymous and like the CTO of World Health Organization and all of these, like, and then the rest of the time I was like in you know, women's circles and like healing my womb and like rage releasing around a fire with like women under the moon, you know?
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like a real double life that I was, but I kind of loved it.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, it's so cool.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_02: I just really enjoyed the uniqueness of the situation.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_02: And it was really funny because I'd be on you know, Zoom calls with the whole team, all of these like cyber people working in the cybersecurity firm and like the film producers, and you know, it would be like a zoom call, and then our executive producer would um introduce me and he'd be like, Oh, this is and this is Lara.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: It's like all men, by the way.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like pretty much the only woman.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, Yeah, this is Lara.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_02: She's the goddess of cybersecurity.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: She lives in Bali, she just walks around her garden, like picking fruit and like da-da-da.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just kind of they really like, I don't know, they really just supported me being here, which was that was such an incredible.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: That was actually such a healing experience for me with the masculine, really, actually, just even from a totally different world to just see that part of me and to really honor it and to celebrate it and to just be so happy for me and to like encourage me.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I that that in itself was such a powerful experience that I'm so grateful for.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, so I was working on that, and then um at a certain point in the pandemic, suddenly there was just no work.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think there was a period where it kind of intensified.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: We had finished those projects, so I didn't really have any work going on.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: I was also, as I said, doing photography, and I was kind of my intention with coming to Bali was to try to see if I could, you know, do some photography work here in Bali.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but that wasn't happening because it was lockdown and you know, the beaches were shut at one point and it was really hectic.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember I was living in this little kind of bungalow in Peredanan, where the area that we're in now, by the river, living alone, and I I went through yeah, I went through some pretty not great experiences actually dating in Bali.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: So there was a lot of stuff that was coming up for me around healing, you know, relationship stuff and attachment styles and all of that.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_02: And um there was a turning point where I really decided to go inward, and I was like, I'm actually gonna go and take myself through a journey of um celibacy and really just take my energy back.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I was, you know, working um a lot with my womb and and doing kind of different healing practices and really just spending time with myself.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_02: And during that time, I was so isolated.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: I I think that was probably one of the chapters of my life where I spent the most time just doing nothing, like actually just being, you know, and I think that's such an underrated practice and maybe the most powerful practice that's actually available to us.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: And um yeah, during that time I started having some of the most trippy and wild lucid dreams that I have ever experienced.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I've always been a lucid dreamer, um, even from a very young age.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've have very vivid memories of um some dream experiences from since I was like maybe nine years old.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: But I hadn't had that in a while.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: So this season happened, and I was isolating in this place in Peredina and in Bali, and I suddenly was having all of these crazy experiences.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_02: I was having essentially these um lucid experiences of meeting these uh guides, these like spirit guides, who I couldn't see or hear, but they were communicating to me telepathically.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: There was a whole other series of crazy events that were happening at the time, and I was just again really following the the breadcrumbs of just like being led to certain people and places, things were starting to open up again on the island.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was introduced to this shaman um who I ended up having a very, very profound experience with um making my own shamanic drum, and that was like a whole other um initiation in and of itself.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: And then um kind of at the end of this season, then I was getting another message, and it was like, okay, you have to go home to Egypt and you need to do a pilgrimage.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when I say pilgrimage, I mean go temple to temple, follow the Nile.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_02: All of the temples in Egypt are along the river Nile.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: There's a specific sequence and a specific order.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you need to just go and be in those temples.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: You need to reconnect with your roots, you need to reconnect with your ancestors.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I in immediately I was like, How am I supposed to do this?
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: The whole fucking world is locked down.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: I, you know, didn't have the vaccine.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Bali was super strict on things.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_02: I had no idea, like, if I left, would I even be able to come back to Bali?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: At this point, I had a cat, I had a like a life, I had a home, I had a few belongings that I was starting to accumulate.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I was very, very terrified of doing this.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_02: But again, it just kept coming, kept coming, kept coming.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so eventually I um yeah, I I listened and I said, okay, I I'm gonna trust, and I'm gonna trust that if I leave, I can come back.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I went to Egypt.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: I spent four months and I went to every single temple that I could possibly find.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_02: I went to all the pyramids, I went multiple times.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: Essentially, I completed the four months, and actually the last day of the pilgrimage was my birthday.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_02: So it was January 4th, 2022.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: So it just turned 2022, and I remember I was like, okay, I want to go to a sacred site and have a ceremony for my birthday.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: And there was one that I knew was closed to the public where I had been many times, and I, you know, I would go and do ceremonies there because I was like, okay, no one's gonna be there.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_02: I can do my thing, no one's gonna bother me.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I got there, and then it's a different guard who is normally there.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_02: Because even though it's closed to the public, it's still a protected zone.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: They're like ancient ruins and things.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: And uh he says, What are you doing?
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: You're not allowed here.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: This is all closed.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: What what are you doing here?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Oh, like, but where's Muhammad?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, he lets me in, and then I ended up kind of convincing him to let me through.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, I had my big bags with like offerings and flowers and candles, and I had my drum, and I had all my crystal, like just, you know.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_02: The works, and then I we went through and we're walking literally kind of in the desert because it's sort of out of the city, and we're approaching the ancient ruin, and he just walks right past it.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, What are you doing?
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: This is it, you know.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, Oh no, no, I'm gonna take you somewhere else.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so I was like, Okay, this could be a little bit sketchy, you know, like following a strange, a complete stranger in the middle of the desert.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I was like, Okay, you know, I trust and I'm just gonna follow this path.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we end up walking through the desert for like another almost half an hour.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: And then he takes me to this other sacred site, which was truly one of the most powerful places that I have ever experienced.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_02: And it's basically um it's this huge I don't even know what to call it.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's actually known as uh the world's oldest offering table for ritual, and it's made out of alabaster and crystal quartz, and it it looks so wild.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's like this huge platform you have to really like climb to get on it.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's like maybe this high.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: And it kind of sort of looks like a comp a compass star with the four directions and then the cross quarters, and then there's like a perfectly cut, like perfect circle cut in the middle.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: So mystical.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: So it looks like an alien landing pad, like it's very trippy, and so I he was like, Okay, here, you can do your thing here.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_02: And he just sat, you know, on the side.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: He brought me tea at one point.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I just did a ceremony there for myself, and I really just felt so wow, just in that moment, so grateful.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, this is truly the best birthday gift that I've ever received.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I just felt just the magic of it all.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, that's when I say the universe really rewards risk.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: And it is, it's not easy.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's why a lot of people don't do it.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: But when you follow the risk, and it's again, it's coming from that heart space.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you're not doing it because it's like gonna make your ego feel good, or because you think it's gonna look cool, or you think it's gonna give you something that you want, or make people see you.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you're really just following like what is that heart-led desire that is just in you.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: And you just go for it, and you know, things open so quickly when you do that.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's the fastest way.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: I guarantee it's the fastest way to just have the the path really revealing itself, not in the beginning.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, no, you have to take the first step in order for the path to be revealed.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_02: The path isn't gonna be revealed, you just sitting there.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, what's gonna happen?
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you have to and then that reveals the next, and then the next, and the next.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_02: And that was really my experience.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then after that ceremony at this sacred site, I went home and I went to the hairdresser because I was getting my hair done.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, hey, I'm gonna go for a birthday dinner with my family, and I was in the hair salon, and then literally all of a sudden, I experienced this like it felt like a thunderbolt of like lightning or energy, like this like bolt of energy through my whole body, and I was like in the salon, you know, I was like nearly fell off the chair.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, whoa.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then I actually heard a voice in my head, and I don't normally hear it like that, but this one was very clear, and it was like, uh, you will take, you will now take people on the same journey that you took yourself on.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: And they they gave me the name, they're like, it will be called the Alchemy of Egypt.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the journey that I take people on.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_02: The Alchemy of Egypt, you must start right away, 2022, and the people that are meant to join you have already been chosen.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: That's so crazy.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: It was wild, and I was like, my first reaction was like, What?
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, Are you sure this was for me?
• 51:57
  unknown: Like, what?
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: What are you saying?
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because I was still a filmmaker, photographer, making documentaries, doing photography.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_02: I loved the spiritual, I always have, but that was my private thing.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_02: I never imagined that would be something that I would share with others in that way.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so yeah, that was a that was a big shift.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was a big uh threshold moment for me.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: That is an amazing story, so beautifully told.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for sharing that.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that this message and whoever is listening here, wow, I think um I speak on behalf of all the listeners.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think we can all agree we're supposed to be hearing this story from you.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: That felt like a big transmission.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: So um, okay.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you were receiving a very strong, clear, crystal clear message from your guides or whatever, whoever.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: But then when you come back to the 3D where yeah, you have a career, you need to make money, you need to spend money, you need to build things, you need to market yourself.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_00: How did you go taking that spiritual message and career direction and actually bringing it to life in the in reality?
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I think um it was a it was an interesting experience because I felt it didn't make sense to me.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it made zero sense in any way, shape, or form.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_02: I thought nobody's gonna sign up for sure.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_02: This is ridiculous.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody even knows me as even Egyptian, because I, you know, at that point You're an international person.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I was I'd never, you know, my whole social media was just my photography.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_02: There was not never, there was not even a photo of me on my I didn't have a presence.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I didn't have like the credibility of, oh, this is someone who does this work.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: And but yet slowly, slowly, I just found myself doing all the things that needed to be done for this to happen, which was to make the website, write the landing page about what this journey is.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_02: I had to map out the journey because obviously it wasn't gonna be four months.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_02: I had to kind of take the core pieces and make it into what it is now, which is two weeks.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I had to find my team in Egypt to help me with, you know, private visit access to the temples, accommodation, logistics, transport, all of that.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_02: And it, but all of it just happened so easily.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like it just it just flowed.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought, okay, you know what?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_02: Let me just do this, and probably no one will sign up anyway, but at least I tried.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: At the same time, you know, I was living in Bali, things were opening up again, and I was also building my photography business.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, this just doesn't even make any sense.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is so weird, but whatever.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, let's just do it.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I launched the retreat on my Instagram, and in two and a half weeks I sold out.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what?
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: They were already chosen.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: They were already chosen.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, where did you guys even find me?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh, you know, there was a lot of I had a lot of support too.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: I had friends who were sharing and posting and helping me through the process.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, so I was I was so supported, like not just spiritually, but like physically, like people in my life and people who came into my life.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: And but again, when you take risks, you get rewarded.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: When you take that leap, when you take that, you know, that moment of radical trust.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: I think something else that maybe would can would have contributed to this is it sounds like when you were so sure that this is what you had to do because you just received the instructions, um, that you were just showing up as it.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: You weren't saying, Oh, I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing, or maybe I'm not the right person to be doing this.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: It sounds like the imposter syndrome that so many new entrepreneurs normally have just wasn't there, and you were really embodied in this, this is what I'm doing.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: And then people received that.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: I had the worst imposter syndrome you could ever imagine.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, tell me more.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: The whole time it was like, it was so weird.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was like there were these two parts of me.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: The one that was like, What are you actually doing?
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_02: This is insane.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like, who the fuck are you to do this?
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you've never even held a women's circle.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: How are you gonna hold ceremonies in the temples?
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: What is like, are you crazy?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: Are you okay?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: And then the other one was just like, we're just doing it anyway.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like your ego and your higher self just higher self being like, stop it, we're taking over.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care how scared you are.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's what, and you know, I and I think it's sometimes people have a misunderstanding or a misconception that in order to do the thing, you have to be, you can't have imposter syndrome, you can't have fear, you can't have, you know, anxiety, you can't have I had all of that and like intensely I was avoiding, I was procrastinating on certain things.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I was isolating a lot.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it was really funny too, because actually, as I was preparing for the first pilgrimage, all of my shoots that I had planned all got canceled for different reasons, which never happens.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like my I had one shoot that was gonna be a really, really big one.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_02: It was like a full retreat and then individual photo shoots that was gonna be like three weeks of work.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_02: The day before I got food poisoning.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was literally could not.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I was like throwing up all night, and then my Instagram account got taken down.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa, yeah, crazy.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it was just like everything was telling me, just focus here.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like you just have and I was clinging on for dear life to the old me.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it got to a point, literally, I even said this several times.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I feel like every time I pick up my camera, it's cursed.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like I feel like my cat, I felt like my camera was cursed.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was not supposed to be doing that work anymore.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I was supposed to be focusing on on preparation for this journey, which is a real responsibility.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like you're bringing people into some of the most energetically charged sites on earth and leading them through, you know, very deep experiences and and processes and ceremonies, and um yeah, literally opening up that space and that stillness so that their higher self can come through, so that their messages that are for them get to come.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's what I think of it is with Egypt and with the with the journeys, I really feel like people are being initiated by the land, not me, but I'm the bridge that has created the right set and setting for them to have the most powerful, yet safe, you know, grounded and just beautiful experience that they can possibly have.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's that's my work.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_02: I just make it, I'm trying to give you the best possible like everything is like immaculately organized and and curated.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then the initiation or the message or the experience that you're ready to receive is between you and Egypt.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's nothing to do with me.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_02: So but yeah, it was um it was a huge initiation for me to even step into that role of trusting that I could even do that in a way that was good, that was right, that was in full integrity, that was safe, that was, you know, responsible, that was gonna be powerful for these people that are coming all the way from the US and coming all the way to Egypt, you know, and and making an investment to have this experience.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then um I remember this the first ceremony that we did, or one of the first ceremonies that was really like that was like the biggest initiation for me because it was the first time that I like opened ceremony in a in a temple with people, and it was private access.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: So it was like four in the morning before the temple opens.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: They give you like a two-hour slot, and I didn't know what I was even gonna do right up until the moment because every time I tried to sit with it, I was like, What am I gonna what am I supposed to do in this fucking ceremony?
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: What am I supposed to do?
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like, hello, Isis, can you help me?
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: Can you tell me what to do?
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_02: She was like, No, you have to trust in the medicine of the moment.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: Well, not giving you anything.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, like the Capricorn in me that just wants the plan and like wants to know the step by step of what to do.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, and then you know, and then we opened the space and all of this stuff came through.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: It was the ceremony ended up really being about um mother, like the divine mother.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the my guides who, you know, are like on my team, you know, they do the the logistics and they do so much more than that.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, they've been running retreats in in Egypt and helping people like me do retreats for real people guides.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_02: Real people guides.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they're Egyptian and they have a tour company like that does this.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, they saw me, they were there in the ceremony and they they were like, You've done this before.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and it, you know, and I remember coming out of the ceremony and I was like, that was the easiest thing I've ever done.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_00: Bringing this back to our podcast studio.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like in Egypt right now.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm also like, oh my gosh, we gotta start uh yeah, yeah, start wrapping up.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm sure there is someone listening that is probably just dying to know how they can get in touch with you and how they can learn more about this experience.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_00: How can they?
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_02: Of course.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, probably the best way is my Instagram, uh-huh, House of Light.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's spelled H-A-U-S, and there's a dot in there.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_02: You'll I'll give it to you for the show notes because it's a little like funny to find.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_02: But um yeah, Instagram is the best place.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_02: I have the, you know, my link in bio.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_02: You can explore the the retreat, is there?
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, just other offerings that I that I have to help people find their purpose as well and find their gift and really follow their calling is something that I'm really, really passionate about.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, amazing.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: So they're yeah, I think people that listen to this podcast are seekers and they know that there's more out there, and they know that there's more than the nine to five life, and they're probably being called into something else, but they don't quite know what it is.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I have my own method, but it almost just doesn't feel right to even share what it is right now.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's very like, well, it's not that I don't channel people's stuff.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: I I definitely do, but it's a bit more like exploring the practical.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_03: Totally.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so there's a place for that.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: And if anybody wants me to help you explore the practical nature of your personality and your skill set and your interest and everything, that's how I can help you come up with a remote business idea.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: But Lara, maybe maybe it would actually even be the real first step for them to get in touch with what their spirit is actually calling.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so that you offer something like that.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I do uh a soul legacy reading, it's called.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's a 60-minute reading.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_02: I look at your birth chart, so your astrology, human design, and gene keys.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_02: And it's really a map of all of your gifts, your biggest challenges, your karma, your dharma, you know, what keeps you radiant, what keeps you healthy.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, what is literally your code to prosperity and finance, financial abundance, what is your biggest block to money?
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's so much information that we can look at.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's really a beautiful first step.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_02: And really just looking at what's there, you know, because there's so many infinite ways that you can then like express that and turn that into like a tangible business, because of course, like you need both.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um but yeah, it's it's it's really fun.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_02: Those they're they're usually very validating and very reaffirming for people, and it kind of just gives them that confidence of, oh my gosh, like this isn't just all in my head, like this obscure desire that I have for like this type of like music or this culture or this whatever, you know, it's it's always like everything is in your chart, even this entire crazy journey of Egypt.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_02: It was funny because final little piece, like as I was going through all of this living in that bungalow, a neighbor moved in.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_02: He took one of the other bungalows and he was an astrologer.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and he he actually read my chart, and he literally I he didn't know what I was about to start doing in Egypt, but he basically read the entire trajectory of the path that I was about to step into.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: No way.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was like, Oh, so your so your purpose is something about spirituality and small groups, and there's a connection with ancestry and home, and there's travel involved.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_02: And da-da-da-da-da.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like he literally was just he just described the exact path.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I was it it was just so powerful because it was just that confirmation that sometimes gets us over the edge of our own insecurity, self-doubt, imposter syndrome, and that really propelled me to trust and to keep going.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that's you know, the the doors opened.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, so beautiful.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: I can't believe that just not even an hour ago, we were talking about your experience in London and the frenetic energy of your schedule and the alarm clocks and yeah, and the stress, and just like now you're doing this so embodied in you know, your your purpose and having listened to all the signs and it brought you to here today.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: And um, yeah, I just I know people are gonna be so inspired by your story.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: So, whoever's listening, where whether you're in your commute or whether you're, I don't know, listening even at work, sometimes people tell me that too.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: But um, Laura, I'd love to invite you to share a message to the listeners.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I the message that I want to share is from the bottom of my heart.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: I promise you, I promise you with everything that I have, if there is a little spark, a little desire, a little curiosity, it doesn't need to be so big and clear, even if like sometimes it's the more subtle ones that are actually the real deal.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_02: But if you follow that in whatever way, however big or small, even if it's a risk, even if it doesn't make sense, even if your friends don't get it, even if it's so out of left field with every single part of my being, I promise you it will be worth it.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_02: You will be so rewarded and you will you will open yourself to a level of trust and synchronicity and just divine orchestration that you might have never even thought was possible.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_02: And it truly does begin with just taking that first step, that first little, even if it's a small stepping stone or maybe it's a big leap, but whatever it is, it will be rewarded and just trust that it's coming from your heart, and that's that's always the path.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much to all the listeners as well for being here.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_00: I uh say this often in this podcast, not every episode, but the ones that are that are coded.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_00: If you are listening to this, you are here for a reason.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_00: If you think about the internet and all the different avenues, all the different corners of the internet that you could fall into, you are here listening to this.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: We've made it through, I don't know how many minutes of this episode, but you're still here.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_00: And to me, that says so much about you and your intention and the messages that are coming through for you.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_00: So if you are in a situation that you're not happy with, if you are stressed out at work, if you are doing something that doesn't feel aligned with your higher self, there is another way.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_00: It might not be that you come to Bali, it might not be that you run retreats, it might not be that you have a coaching business, it might not be, I don't know.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea who you are.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_00: Only you know who you are, and only you can really actually tune into what's right for you.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_00: But there are people, mentors that are available to you, whether you want to lean more into the spiritual realm or you want to do something that's a bit more um connected to your say left brain.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, there are people out there who've walked the path before you and mentorship, mentorship, mentorship.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Laura, if you have Oh, always.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, would be so curious to hear if you have any little tidbits about maybe a journey with mentorship.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean, actually, I should have probably even mentioned that was one of the I would say that was one of the core reasons that I was able to do everything that I did because I had support, as I said, like I had support even in the beginning, you know, when I moved to Bali or like thought I was gonna be here for just a month to explore, I hi I hired a coach, you know, to help me set up a photography business.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_02: I hired, I had mentors, I worked with shamans, I worked with many, many, many different people to um, yeah, to literally support me.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're not supposed to do it alone.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_02: You can do it alone.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_02: It might take a lot longer, it might, you know, um, but yeah, I I pretty much always have some form of support.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_02: And that's been the case since, yeah, since seven years ago now.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_02: So that's been one of the greatest, um, the greatest.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't even want to call it like an asset because it's so much more than that, but that has, I think that's been one of the main reasons why I was able to get to where I am for sure.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, same.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_00: I owe so much.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: I owe everything to my mentors.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, agree we're not supposed to do it alone.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: And why, why should we?
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think about the way that humanity moves and for us to be accelerating, we need to take the wisdom from our ancestors and even just from the generation or the the worker before us.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_00: People have figured out the the steps.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, why would you try to figure it all out yourself?
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I think that being said, if you are in touch with the fact that you have a higher calling, maybe you even actually know what it is, take this as a sign.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to take action.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't know what action that is, it's probably mentorship.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_00: So um, feel free to slide into my DMs at Christabella Travels on Instagram, where I can support you in creating a fully remote lifestyle first business.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you want to tap into your soul's purpose, Lara House of Light, hit us up.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening to the Digital Nomad Life podcast, and we'll see you in the next episode.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.