Latest / Rich Fulcher's TalkBox / Prashasti Singh: Hindi Comedy Explosion, “You Go Girl”, Comicstaan, Kill the Cat & Cheesy Potatoes | TalkBox Ep.31
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- 0:00This is me being serious. Oh, hi, Welcome to TALK BOX.
- 0:05This is Rich Fulcher. Now, my guest this week is an
- 0:10Indian comic from Mumbai, and she's visiting London.
- 0:15We're lucky to get her. She's at the Soho Theatre this
- 0:19week for five days. And her name is Prashasti Singh.
- 0:24She has a huge following on YouTube, Instagram and insert a
- 0:33funny thing there. So let's it's a great interview.
- 0:40She's really funny and it's just shows how big comedy is all over
- 0:46the world and India is like. Foosh.
- 0:51Like that. So let's take a look and then
- 0:55I'll talk to you later. Fly me to the moon for Shasti.
- 1:19How are you? What are you doing?
- 1:21Good to see you. You're.
- 1:22Very surprised to see. Me.
- 1:24I am very surprised. I didn't know I was going to do
- 1:27a show. Oh.
- 1:29You didn't. Yeah, I was just here to sit
- 1:31down. I.
- 1:31Flew in from Mumbai. I had no idea I'm coming.
- 1:35Now, how long a flight is that it?
- 1:37Was 9 hours. Holy crap, yeah.
- 1:39Now, do you have a secret to jet lag?
- 1:42Oh man. It's your secret.
- 1:46A lot of Red Bull yesterday I lot of energy drink and I think
- 1:51it will all catch up with me in the by tomorrow.
- 1:54I heard this is from Formula Racers that you don't eat on the
- 2:00flight. I did not eat on the flight.
- 2:03You did not, I mean. It's not that I.
- 2:05That's how you do it. That's how you.
- 2:07Do I knew about it, but I just happened to not eat on the
- 2:10flight and that's why I was OK yesterday, I guess.
- 2:13Yeah, yeah. Something about eating it
- 2:15settles your schedule for life, no.
- 2:21Yeah. So you've already done a show at
- 2:24the Soho Theatre and you're on until when you're on the.
- 2:28Saturday night so that is 20th 6 shows.
- 2:32Saturday night is my last show. Shows.
- 2:35Yes. How are you going to do it?
- 2:38Yeah, like a lot of Red Bull. But I mean, I just, I really
- 2:41enjoy this kind of, you know, I don't know, residency where I
- 2:46come here, live in London for a week, do my show because the 1st
- 2:50and 2nd show are actually the, like, toughest.
- 2:53But by the time I'm doing my third show, I feel like it's
- 2:55home. Once you get that under your
- 2:57belt and are you doing any shows after that?
- 3:00No, then I'm, I'm going to Amsterdam for like a four day
- 3:03break. Nice.
- 3:06That's great. You've got it all planned and
- 3:08then you leave. On on Christmas Day, actually,
- 3:11yeah. Oh, nice.
- 3:13Yeah. Wow.
- 3:13Yeah, nobody will be on the fly. Hopefully that's the that's the
- 3:17catch, yes. Yeah, we flew on Christmas Day
- 3:21last year. Yeah, and it was no one on the
- 3:24flight. There were a few people, you
- 3:27losers. They all have the same ideas,
- 3:29man. Yeah.
- 3:30I'm guessing the flight must be cheaper on that day, right?
- 3:32Yeah, yeah. Now you must have a lot of fans
- 3:37in England, do you? You've I've looked at your
- 3:41YouTube figures, you've got like.
- 3:43Yeah, we just, we Indians are a lot of people.
- 3:46That's that, that's the thing. So you're.
- 3:48At least 500, right? Yeah, at least.
- 3:52No, but I mean, of all my guests, I think you may have the
- 3:56most followers. Most is a.
- 3:59Most is a stretch with. Of all of my guests of.
- 4:03All of your guests, yeah. Possible.
- 4:05Usually my guests live in caves. Yeah, most of your guests are
- 4:13intellectuals. Yes, they don't do.
- 4:16They do art, yeah. Anything.
- 4:19They just, they just paint with crayons in their toes.
- 4:22Yeah. So you've got all of these
- 4:25followers and then it transcends here.
- 4:27You've. Yeah.
- 4:29So yeah, I mean that way, that's the thing, because I typically
- 4:32do comedy in Hindi, which is a huge market across the world
- 4:37right now because again, we have so many.
- 4:39It's really. Exploding, yeah.
- 4:41When did it start to really go off the charts?
- 4:45I think it was around 20, 1718 when it started becoming big in
- 4:51India. Yeah.
- 4:53So I think in India started like becoming sort of big around that
- 4:56time. What was the reason?
- 4:59Just that because I think the entire comedy industry in India
- 5:02is like not more than 12 years old.
- 5:05So when they started off, you know, in the bigger cities, they
- 5:08were all of all of them were just watching American comedy or
- 5:12British comedy. Like which one?
- 5:15Like Seinfeld. Seinfeld.
- 5:18Or, you know, all the classics really.
- 5:23So I mean, the entire culture was very America driven,
- 5:27actually not Even so much British comedy driven.
- 5:30So everyone naturally started doing comedy in English and it
- 5:34was very metro, very cosmopolitan.
- 5:37But because it started say, you know, in the 5-6 years when it
- 5:42started becoming big, of course, people in smaller towns, people
- 5:46who are talking regional languages started picking it up
- 5:49and realising, oh, this can be done in this language as well.
- 5:53So I think 20/17/18 was the time when one of the first couple of
- 5:58Hindi speaking comedians like broke through.
- 6:00Like they, you know, they, you know, they released some content
- 6:02on the Internet, it became big. But that time also was limited
- 6:06to like India. But because I think during COVID
- 6:10and post pandemic, even the, you know, even our will have moved
- 6:15out so much, you know, to the US or Australia to UK, that all of
- 6:20that fan base is not spread out across the world.
- 6:23Were there any US comics that you sort of looked at?
- 6:27Looked. A lot, yeah.
- 6:28Yeah, I remember. And I had actually came into
- 6:32comedy later, so I started my, you know, I started gigging open
- 6:36mics around 20/17/18. So that time.
- 6:39When it was taking off. Yeah, you say it took off sort
- 6:41of around 2014 fifteen, but 2017 it was when the languages are
- 6:45were coming in. So I started doing it in Hindi
- 6:47and but I was watching a lot of oh.
- 6:49So you didn't start in English. No, no, no, this is actually
- 6:52this is. This is my first year doing
- 6:54comedy in English. It's a thing for me.
- 6:57Is that a big switch? It is like my brain had to grow
- 7:01a bit, you know, really because I think while I can communicate,
- 7:05I'm educated in English language in India.
- 7:07Actually a lot of education and the work, you know, there's so
- 7:10many MNC culture that we all are trained in English.
- 7:14But I, my comedic brain is very Hindi.
- 7:17So I had to literally grow a new muscle.
- 7:19Oh, so it's a new comedic muscle?
- 7:21Yeah, yeah. And it's still very like it's
- 7:23still OK. I sometimes do my gigs in
- 7:27Canadian, so yeah. Yeah, difficult.
- 7:30It's very difficult. I can imagine.
- 7:33OK, so you started doing these gigs and where was the 1st place
- 7:38you did it in Mumbai? Mumbai, yeah, there was this
- 7:40very small and the modern. Mumbai kill right away.
- 7:44Oh, my first gig was great. That usually happens.
- 7:48But it was it was an all women gig.
- 7:50So this is also the time when suddenly, you know, there was
- 7:53this whole thing. There were no women in comedy.
- 7:55We should do something about it. So a bunch of women got
- 7:57together, started these female open mics.
- 7:59So did people go you are so funny, you should do comedy?
- 8:04Yes. Is that what happened?
- 8:06Yeah. So I was a comedy groupie.
- 8:08I should watch a lot of comedy. And literally one of these gigs,
- 8:11my friend, were like, you should also do try 2 minutes, 3
- 8:14minutes. And that's how it started.
- 8:16Did you? Think that I can do this.
- 8:18No, never. I actually had a major issue
- 8:21with public speaking. Oh really?
- 8:23Really I can do this? I never now, now I've become
- 8:28this person. But I should have improved in
- 8:30theatre a bit. But.
- 8:32You had done a little. Theatre, yeah.
- 8:34Anything that did not like need a mic.
- 8:36I I had this major phobia without a mic, like mic and
- 8:39talking to people making the photo, Yeah.
- 8:43Fly me to the moon. It's so brave.
- 8:48That's brave. Oh shit, people are watching.
- 8:52Oh my God, So what? How did you get over that to do
- 8:57your first gig? I don't know it just.
- 9:01That's courage. I think it was just a lot of it.
- 9:04It'll sound a bit, you know, too cheesy and too cliched.
- 9:08But like it, as I said, it was like a small gig with a lot of
- 9:12women in it and that weird energy of people just cheering
- 9:15and being like, yeah, system there for you.
- 9:18You know, we see that around on the Internet.
- 9:20But I saw it physically that very yes, Queen culture.
- 9:23And I was not really, I was not really in it.
- 9:25Yeah. But I think this Google energy
- 9:27really works because I think in that momentum I got on stage, I
- 9:32started talking about something I would talk to friends about.
- 9:35And I'm like, oh God, these girls are laughing.
- 9:37They're losing their mind. So I think just that experiment,
- 9:40I think broke something in my brain in a good way.
- 9:43Like this works. Yeah, this works and.
- 9:45What about material? Did you have difficulty writing
- 9:49material? Of course, how it is right in
- 9:53the beginning, there are a lot of things you want to say and
- 9:57the first gig always great, but the second gig second.
- 9:59One I've talked to more comics that they had a great experience
- 10:04the first time, second time, I never want to do this and the.
- 10:10Thing is, enough info, everyone tells you this.
- 10:13So after your first week people tell you that oh, this was the
- 10:16first gig. Second gig you see like a second
- 10:19open mic, everyone bombs. I'm like, no, not me, no.
- 10:22Did you not see me? Killing.
- 10:23I killed the first one. It's not.
- 10:25Going to happen. Oh man, second, second one was
- 10:27like a reality check. So I think in the beginning then
- 10:30I would of course bomb a Lord because I had, I had, I had not
- 10:34cracked anything. I was just going telling things
- 10:36I thought were funny. But I'm guessing my learning is
- 10:39that in comedy, I feel the bigger muscle is the muscle that
- 10:43is able to absorb humiliation. Like, more than your writing
- 10:46muscle. The thickness of your scale
- 10:50really, you know, makes a difference.
- 10:52Or really you have to. Have a hard shell.
- 10:55I think I have that because I think it was a struggle because
- 10:59I entered this and I realised, oh, I've broken this barrier.
- 11:02I can talk on stage, but I would also talk about really boring
- 11:06stuff like, you know, but I think I just had this thing that
- 11:08I really want to do this. I kept getting humiliated for
- 11:11like 6-7 months till something. Something snaps.
- 11:15Yeah. Did you have like a mentor
- 11:18anybody that said this is gonna happen?
- 11:21Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. So I think that that's the
- 11:24great, that was the great part about the timing, because as I
- 11:27said, the scene was still pretty fresh in India.
- 11:30Like 2014. Thirteen is when these guys, you
- 11:32know, the senior comedian, started doing comedy.
- 11:35And I was senior. I was people who were little
- 11:38older. They're all younger than me,
- 11:40actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 11:42But what I'm trying to say is that people who were the first
- 11:45movers in comedy were also like, you don't doing it only for 3-4
- 11:48years by the time I entered. So there was a lot of resource
- 11:51available. They're all very accessible.
- 11:53It was very small scene so you could talk to anyone.
- 11:57Everyone was willing to mentor you.
- 11:59So I live. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 12:00Because right now it's expanded. Right now it's a big commercial
- 12:03industry in India. But the time when I started the
- 12:07commerce part of it was very limited.
- 12:09It was really, it was like, you know, this underground New York
- 12:11scene where so. Mrs Maisel?
- 12:14Yeah, did. You see that?
- 12:17Yeah, they were in like little coffee houses.
- 12:19And everybody's going like this. Yeah.
- 12:21I mean, the comedy is too wordy. But what I'm trying to say is
- 12:24that everyone is around and everyone is accessible and
- 12:28everyone's talking to everyone. So that was very helpful.
- 12:31Because the reason I asked about the mentoring is sometimes you
- 12:35find that person and then sometimes you don't.
- 12:38Because sometimes comedians, it depends on where, yeah, but
- 12:43sometimes they can be a little bit.
- 12:45Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like little groups like we're
- 12:49from Minnesota, we're the New York comics or you know.
- 12:53I think now maybe there are younger comics who look at me
- 12:57and they're like this one is too.
- 12:59She's the establishment. She's out of reach.
- 13:02But though, even though I try to be warm and nice because right
- 13:04now, as I said, OK, the industry is big, that actually we do not
- 13:09end up mixing so much with the, you know, the fresh talent
- 13:12because we end up doing our commercial gigs a lot.
- 13:14Don't look at the fresh talent. That's fresh talent.
- 13:20Do you go out the back door? Yeah.
- 13:21No, no, we don't do that, but you know what I mean?
- 13:24So I have sometimes they can effort to actually be like, oh,
- 13:27you were new, how's it going for you?
- 13:31And that point I'm realising, oh, this is in months.
- 13:33This is the first time talking to a, you know, an open mic or a
- 13:36new a fresh person. But when I was starting out, I
- 13:40was literally talking to like everyone all the time because we
- 13:43were all sharing the same green rooms.
- 13:44So mentorship was very easily accessible.
- 13:47And again, these were all, you know, young people who had
- 13:50started off 3-4 years back. So they also had no, they were
- 13:54not big enough at the time. So they were very, you know,
- 13:58they were, they were very generous with their inputs as
- 14:01well. That's nice.
- 14:02Yeah. I think right now we've all
- 14:03become a rich. I had that, yeah.
- 14:06You know, you mentioned when you started out and then you, you
- 14:10had that humiliation period where people threw stuff.
- 14:14No, no, nobody threw stuff. Thankfully, I would have taken
- 14:18that, you know, All right, all right.
- 14:19I remember that's that's the ones I was ready for it.
- 14:23I tell people in my show right now so that you know what, if
- 14:25you don't like it, you can throw things.
- 14:28But you said something clicked. Yeah.
- 14:31What was it that clicked? Was it comfort on stage?
- 14:36Was it your material? I think just going on stage
- 14:40every day and trying it, trying to write every day.
- 14:44It's. A muscle, yeah, I think every
- 14:46day I would not make any visible progress, but I think at some
- 14:51point it came together that I think I started understanding
- 14:55the technique of stand up, the rhythm, the rhythm and the fact
- 14:59that are people who are doing well, they're doing the setup,
- 15:01punch, time, act out, blah, blah, blah.
- 15:03And because I was so at it all the time, I think at some
- 15:07abstract level, the way like if I'm thinking of a story, I was
- 15:12able to mould the technique and the abstract part of it together
- 15:17more naturally cuz. Yeah, cuz a lot of people, I
- 15:21mean, just from my experience, I know some people, what gets them
- 15:25up on stage is kind of almost not copying exactly, but being
- 15:32someone they really like, like their style.
- 15:35Yeah, but then over time you develop your own.
- 15:38Style, yeah. Which is more like your own
- 15:41personality, so. I think the good thing for me
- 15:44was I think I've always been. I've been so arrogant I guess
- 15:48that I think even though even for the 67.
- 15:51You could admit that. Do you want us to cut that out?
- 15:53No, no, you, you could have that.
- 15:56I am arrogant. She's arrogant.
- 15:59Yeah, it's I'm, I'm really coming out of.
- 16:02That no, no, you have to be a little bit arrogant to do this.
- 16:05But I was really arrogant in the even the beginning of my career
- 16:09that even though I was so new to this entire thing, I was
- 16:12actually coming from a corporate background.
- 16:14And for six months I'm really bombing every day I had.
- 16:17I had no instinct to copy anyone at all like I was like.
- 16:22Oh, that's good, yeah. Like, they are doing what they
- 16:26know. I will do what I know.
- 16:28So that's why it took longer to, you know, figure out something
- 16:32that was unique to me but also funny.
- 16:35But I think if I'd started copying someone, I would have
- 16:37been stuck in that rut for a longer time.
- 16:40Did your family have a Did you have an artistic background?
- 16:44No. No, from your family.
- 16:46I think I'm, I'm the elder child in the household and I think I
- 16:50was the one who was supposed to become a doctor or an engineer.
- 16:54And I then I did, then I did my MBA from, you know, from a very
- 16:57coveted institution in India. I was supposed to be the.
- 17:01You were gonna be an engineer. I became an engineer, then I did
- 17:04my MBA. I became, I actually became a
- 17:07brand manager and that was supposed to be my track.
- 17:10My brother was supposed to be the artist.
- 17:11Great. Yeah.
- 17:13Yeah. You know most astronauts are
- 17:15first child. Did you know that I read that?
- 17:19Somewhere that's, I mean, I would, yeah, I would have tried
- 17:23to be an astronaut. You would have been an
- 17:25astronaut. I mean, as a child I used to
- 17:27tell. And now you're at yuck yucks.
- 17:32That's life. What can you?
- 17:34Do But now astronauts are like anybody can be an astronaut, no?
- 17:38Who can be a comic? A lot of efforts.
- 17:41Well, yeah, yeah. So you you reached that little
- 17:47pinnacle and then you started doing.
- 17:49Did you start a tour in India? Yeah, Yeah.
- 17:52So I think I was around 30 when at least started open miking.
- 17:56I started comedy that late in life.
- 17:59And then the good thing was I for me, it became commercially
- 18:03viable in the first couple of years because it so happened
- 18:07that I started gigging. And then it's so funny.
- 18:11I was part of a talent hunt. OK, so so yes, Amazon Prime came
- 18:16to India. This are a talent.
- 18:17Was it called comics? Comics, then yes.
- 18:20Yeah, yeah, I saw some of that, yeah.
- 18:23So, yeah, so that really took off.
- 18:25Yeah. And that it doesn't happen even
- 18:27in India. You know, a lot of reality shows
- 18:31are made but not like not really.
- 18:34All of them take off in a way that people who participate have
- 18:38a career out of it. So I was also very sceptical
- 18:41participating in it or even expecting anything out of it.
- 18:44So I had taken a sabbatical from my job and I told them I'll come
- 18:46back OK. I told them that.
- 18:48So you were working during this? Whole time, yeah.
- 18:51See, that's good, though You were, I think you were ahead of
- 18:56the game because you were like you were working and you
- 18:59approached this as another job. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:02Because a lot of comics are lazy.
- 19:05Or are they confident of their skills?
- 19:07I'm guessing they're like, you know, I'm funny, I'll make it
- 19:09happen. I would like, I don't know.
- 19:11Or some of them are delusional. But that's, that's, you know,
- 19:16that's part of the game. No, no, they just have this idea
- 19:21that it's just going to happen, but then you have this work
- 19:25ethic. I had.
- 19:27You got to. You got to do gigs, you got to
- 19:29write your stuff. And I had to make money, but I
- 19:32think I also but after when I took a sabbatical and did this
- 19:36reality show and and of course, the way.
- 19:38Products you have to apply. They actually was this scout,
- 19:42like they were scouting for talent and then they identified
- 19:44some of us from these small gigs in the audience.
- 19:47It's comic stand is in the audience.
- 19:50Did did you know that they were looking?
- 19:53No, no, no. OK.
- 19:54Yeah, I did not know. So I was, I was living my life.
- 19:57I was, you know, I was getting humiliated.
- 19:59And then the time when I stopped getting humiliated on stage, I
- 20:02was starting to do better. They scouted me as a talent.
- 20:05And then, you know, they approached and of course, there
- 20:07was the audition process and whatnot.
- 20:09But what I'm trying to say is that for the two months when I
- 20:12took a sabbatical from work and did this show, and then of
- 20:15course the way production works is the show was.
- 20:17About release for some 667 months later.
- 20:20Did you have to live in a house? Yeah.
- 20:23When they filmed. You.
- 20:24Yeah, parts of it are not everywhere, OK.
- 20:30They were, they were like they had like this area, common area
- 20:34where you know. Did they tell you?
- 20:37It's like you need to get into a fight with this person.
- 20:41I mean I think they did it for later seasons but not really.
- 20:44To spice things. Up, yeah, but it was, I mean,
- 20:48the show actually like worked on its merit.
- 20:50Like, you know, I think people had not seen so much comedy,
- 20:53like bundled together till that point.
- 20:57Yeah. So it really that format really
- 20:59worked. So the ratings were really good.
- 21:01Yeah, yeah. Wow, it really happened.
- 21:05So that's why I'm a believer. And I'm like, oh, comedy gods
- 21:09were around. They really made it happen for
- 21:11me that way. Where are these comedy gods?
- 21:14I'd like to meet them and so after the show you did, they put
- 21:20everybody together and do a tour.
- 21:23No, no, no. So after the show we all went
- 21:25back to our respective jobs or places because there's going to
- 21:28be some 6-7 months till they edit it and record and put it
- 21:32out. So what I was saying I went back
- 21:34to my job actually because in my head this was supposed to be
- 21:37just a 2 month vacation and I go back to my job.
- 21:40But that is when I started feeling really miserable.
- 21:42I felt like, oh, I have found. I know you had this taste.
- 21:47Yeah, you know, as if you go on a vacation and have an affair
- 21:50and then you have to come back to your marriage.
- 21:54It really felt like that. She's.
- 21:56Arrogant and she's talking about affairs.
- 21:59But you know what I mean. Yeah, no, I know what you mean.
- 22:02You get that? It's like holiday fever.
- 22:05Exactly that. And it's weird that I like.
- 22:08I know that. Yeah.
- 22:09Yeah. Wait.
- 22:10It felt like that. I was miserable.
- 22:12I was like, Oh my God, I needed divorce.
- 22:14Like so. When you came back to work,
- 22:16didn't people go, what are you doing here?
- 22:18Well, actually. What was it like?
- 22:21To be honest, I was such a different personality at work.
- 22:25I was never funnier to work. So when I went for this
- 22:27two-month break also, they were like, oh, she's making a
- 22:30mistake. And they're like, OK, whatever.
- 22:32And when I came back, they were like, thank God sense has
- 22:35prevailed. She's come back.
- 22:36And then after six months, when I was quitting my job because
- 22:39the show had aired and I was getting, you know, commercial
- 22:42queries, there were at least so many well wishers in my office
- 22:45who were like, why are you doing this to yourself?
- 22:47Yeah. They're like, no, they were
- 22:49like, you were not funny. They're like, how will you
- 22:52sustain this? Don't and don't get deluded by
- 22:57some reality show. You are good at this.
- 23:00OK? We've never seen you crack a
- 23:02single joke in office. You're very worried.
- 23:05So I literally people who wish like, you know, who were cared
- 23:09for me the most were like, Are you sure?
- 23:11I need to talk to you. Yeah, yeah.
- 23:14And then they actually the thing was OK, if you really are
- 23:16convinced, go. But you know, you can always
- 23:19come back because you'll have to come back.
- 23:22And they were again, they meant it in the best way possible
- 23:25because I think it was I'm, I'm a very different person at work,
- 23:30you know, work. I was I was a serious person
- 23:32leading a team. I would never crack a single
- 23:35joke. Of course you had to get the
- 23:36job. Yeah, and but there was a full
- 23:40personality flip when I go on stage, so and these people had
- 23:44not seen the show at all because it had like it just started
- 23:47airing. But then when they saw it
- 23:49though. Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 23:50Then they were like, we don't know this person.
- 23:54So how did you broach with them that I want to go?
- 23:58Oh man, it was difficult. I'm the boss.
- 24:01Oh yeah, yeah. So.
- 24:03How did you do it? Oh, it was, it was weird because
- 24:06again, stand up was so new in India.
- 24:08So I'm telling my boss that, you know, actually I want to quit.
- 24:11You have to stay. But you know, I like.
- 24:17I think I found my calling somewhere else.
- 24:20Oh, I get this all the time and. Then I'm saying, you know
- 24:25there's a thing called stand up. Do you know what stand up means?
- 24:30And my boss is like, what are you saying?
- 24:31What is this thing? Yeah.
- 24:33Oh, you had to explain all that? Yeah, yeah.
- 24:36Wow, yeah. So, but it was, I mean, but it
- 24:39was, I'm saying I also saw a lot of goodness where again, I had
- 24:43three different people I used to work for over the years at my
- 24:47job. And all three of them were
- 24:49absolutely not convinced that I'm funny or I could actually
- 24:52sustain this career. But all three of them in three
- 24:54different meetings told me that, you know, you go, you experiment
- 24:58and you come back, but you go take this risk.
- 25:03We're there as your backup. So that did make a difference to
- 25:06me. So even though it was a bit.
- 25:07Tight because I talked to a lot of comic like 1 I talked to was
- 25:11an accountant and a lot of them they don't want to make like
- 25:16they don't want to get leave their job until they've
- 25:19established themselves. Yeah.
- 25:22And so you were like that. You took your stuff.
- 25:25I, I actually, I waited for it to become sort of commercially
- 25:29viable because I also had my family to support.
- 25:32I was in that stage. No, no, it's very, yeah, it's a
- 25:37lot of people are like I, I was doing temp work and then I would
- 25:43always quit and I would say, see you suckers.
- 25:47And then I'd have to come back like 2 weeks later because I
- 25:51needed the money and I'd be like, shit, yeah, I but you did
- 25:57it. Well done.
- 26:00Thank you. And so then after that, what?
- 26:03What happened? Did you excuse me?
- 26:05After that, the pandemic happened, so I quit and then I
- 26:10started touring for one year and it was great.
- 26:13What is touring like in? India, it's actually it can be
- 26:17quite a hectic. Is it like a long period?
- 26:20Oh yeah, it's so. I mean, again, depends on how
- 26:24extensive you want to make it. For example, if you do comedy in
- 26:28English, you would typically go to certain again, very metro or
- 26:34cosmopolitan cities because that is where you find your audience.
- 26:37Oh, so there's two tourists? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 26:41But typically in India, I do my comedy in Hindi.
- 26:43So what I do is I would go to the like, you know, the five
- 26:46metro cities and then I would add a bunch of tier one city.
- 26:49There's a lot more in Hindi. Yeah, yeah, there is a bigger
- 26:52audience and yeah, that way touring is again, that model
- 26:57also we've copied from what we've seen in the West, that is
- 27:00this is how American comics do their touring.
- 27:03So, you know, we actually literally copied that model in
- 27:06the beginning, then realise. But the way we fly on the way we
- 27:09commute is different, so we can stagger it a bit more.
- 27:12Did. You fly or did you?
- 27:15Hear. No, no, in India is it?
- 27:17I think we end up flying a lot because the city is a huge
- 27:20country. Yeah.
- 27:21Yeah. So very few cities are like
- 27:23located in a way that you can commute by a train or a bus or a
- 27:27or a car. In a big bus, yeah.
- 27:29Yeah. So we actually copied the model
- 27:31in from the US where they used to do a bus, Yeah.
- 27:34And then we realised, oh, but we're not doing a bus, OK, we're
- 27:37taking flights everywhere, Yeah. So we can actually have more
- 27:40flexibility with this model, but I think we still end up doing it
- 27:46the same way it's done in US where, you know, the dates are
- 27:48concentrated. We do it across a couple of
- 27:50months together, and then we try to club geographies together
- 27:54even though we're flying to every city.
- 27:56So that model is very, very like, I don't know, is it just
- 27:58adapted from there? But yeah.
- 28:01And did you have an agent that booked you everywhere or do you
- 28:07have a? Yeah, I did.
- 28:08So I think as soon as I quit my job and started this whole
- 28:13thing, because I was already getting inquiries.
- 28:16So there was at that point there was one agency which was
- 28:19managing most of the Commons. Just one.
- 28:22Now it's very fragmented, right, right, right.
- 28:24But at that point, because it was still new, this one big
- 28:28agency had monopoly and like, you know, it was a big thing to
- 28:31get sort of signed by them. But because they were also
- 28:35associated with this show, with the the comic Stand.
- 28:38So it it became very like, you know, very easy for me to get
- 28:42signed by them. Yeah.
- 28:44So it was touched with that way. The commercial part of it was
- 28:48very smooth as I transitioned. So there is no big story there.
- 28:53But yeah, I think pandemic was when all of us became really
- 28:57scared. I forgot about that.
- 29:00I think most of them erase it from our memories.
- 29:02Collector memories. It just, it stopped everything.
- 29:06Yeah, yeah. I mean, some people say for some
- 29:09people it stopped their career because they either did wound up
- 29:14doing something else or they felt like, oh, my momentum got
- 29:18shifted. Yeah, yeah.
- 29:20I never had that momentum, so I just went straight through it.
- 29:25It's like pandemic. I'm doing the same thing.
- 29:31Did you have? This podcast during the
- 29:34pandemic. No, I just started in May.
- 29:38Can you believe it? It's so professional.
- 29:42Did you do a lot online during? The pandemic, yeah.
- 29:45And somehow that that also was a big market in the sense during
- 29:50the pandemic, everyone was getting bored.
- 29:53So you're doing, I think you're doing some casual gigs, you
- 29:57know, online earlier. But then there were people who
- 30:00were there were offices who would organise these online gigs
- 30:04for us to entertain. Their employees are all working.
- 30:07Over Zoom, yeah, that's great, that.
- 30:10Was those three very awkward gigs, but you know, they used to
- 30:13bring in the money and it was also is this.
- 30:15Laptop on Yeah. And, you know, you can't because
- 30:19people are sitting in their homes, OK, They're like, now in
- 30:23pyjamas. Yeah.
- 30:24OK. Some, many are on mute.
- 30:26Some are not on mute. And there is, like, immune
- 30:29noise. And in general, these office
- 30:32gigs, these corporate gigs are difficult.
- 30:34And you don't get a reaction, you don't get the laughs, you.
- 30:39Keep looking at them. Some are.
- 30:40Some are looking at you and they're like laughing.
- 30:42Some are distracted. Hello.
- 30:46Yeah, Oh my God. But I mean, it, it did bring in
- 30:50the money and there were a lot of a lot of employers organised
- 30:53these gigs. Yeah, it was a thing during the
- 30:56pandemic. So I mean, that sustained many
- 30:58of us, you know, And I thought, I thought maybe this is a thing
- 31:01across the world. I don't know if it's an India
- 31:03thing. Well, I think there was, I
- 31:05didn't do any stand up per SE, but I there was a comic Sam
- 31:11Morrell. Do you know him?
- 31:13He did rooftop gigs. He actually did a special out of
- 31:17it in New York where he would just say you'd get like 50
- 31:22people together, They'd go on the roof and he'd do the gig.
- 31:25Nice. Yeah, nice.
- 31:27And then now there's the phenomenon.
- 31:29I think it started before the pandemic.
- 31:31Like people can hire out comics for like their backyard parties
- 31:38and stuff. Oh, that happens at all in
- 31:41India. So it does.
- 31:42A bunch of rich people would be like, come, you know, we have a
- 31:46gig in our balcony and they, they want the top comics.
- 31:51So I have not been able to be, you know, I've not reached a
- 31:55place where I'm called for a balcony gig.
- 31:58A billionaire calls you up. I want some comedy now.
- 32:03Well, yeah, it's a thing. One weird query I got.
- 32:07Who is when, you know, a really rich woman and four of her
- 32:14colleagues or friends, they just booked one hotel room and they
- 32:19wanted me to come perform for the six of them in that hotel
- 32:22room. Yeah, and I'm like, this is just
- 32:25weird. It's.
- 32:26Slightly scary, like what's gonna happen?
- 32:29Yeah, so thankfully somehow I did not like go through, but how
- 32:32like this would have been very weird experience.
- 32:34So you didn't do it? Yeah, I think they all, I think
- 32:37they changed their mind because someone like put some sense, I
- 32:40was, I was only telling them that this you can't do stand up
- 32:44for six people in a hotel room. You have to understand they're
- 32:47like, no, no, we'll pay you OK, But I'm like, no, but it's no
- 32:50fun. There's no mind.
- 32:52Yeah, yeah. Not be sitting in your lap and
- 32:55performing. That's not that's not it's not
- 32:58so it. Did not go through.
- 33:04It might have been for a lot of money, though.
- 33:05Yeah, yeah. But yeah, sometimes you have to
- 33:07say no to money. So what is what's your goal
- 33:12right now with stand up? Do you wanna do you wanna go out
- 33:15into acting as well? Do you have aspirations?
- 33:21Films. I think I I've started doing
- 33:23some screenplay writing. OK.
- 33:26Because because my again primary language is Hindi, so the Hindi
- 33:30movie industry, they are always scouted.
- 33:32Isn't it the biggest film industry?
- 33:35I mean, numbers like world, I won't be surprised.
- 33:38I think big is very easy for a population like hearts.
- 33:41OK, right. So, so it's, it's a big industry
- 33:44and and a lot of times they feel like, you know, they really need
- 33:48people like me to help with dialogues because, you know,
- 33:51they're making a funny movie or if they're moving up, oh,
- 33:55there's a strong female character.
- 33:57So I've started getting into that.
- 33:59So that's. Great, like consulting and.
- 34:02Yeah, doctoring, punching up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 34:05We call them punch. Up.
- 34:06Yeah, yeah. So yes, yes, yes.
- 34:09So I think I started there and most recently I got a movie
- 34:13where I had to literally write all dialogues for the movie.
- 34:16So that was like a step up. The next step could be writing a
- 34:20full screenplay, which is a bit intimidating for me right now,
- 34:23but I mean parallely. Save the cat.
- 34:25Have you read that? Yeah, you have to save the cat.
- 34:29Yes, the cat has to be saved. I don't know if that works or
- 34:33not, but I don't think they say you should do it.
- 34:37Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think the problem with
- 34:40the Hindi movies is the the female characters typically
- 34:43saving too many cats. Like the problem is the female
- 34:46characters typically too nice. So you have to be like, save a
- 34:51like save fewer cats, kill a few cats maybe.
- 34:53You know, would you just kill a lot of cats?
- 34:57You could write your own book. Kill the cat.
- 34:59Kill the. Cat.
- 35:01So would you say that the films are kind of formulaic and maybe
- 35:07that's changing now? Or I think it's a difficult time
- 35:11for that industry right now because I think all the big
- 35:14budget movie, The real the money part has become too, too
- 35:18formulaic, has become too cliched.
- 35:21And actually those movies are not working anymore in theatres.
- 35:24I think it's very similar to how it is in the West also.
- 35:26And the few indie movies which are experimenting, which are
- 35:30actually trying to do new things, have very small
- 35:33audience. Very.
- 35:35Small yeah, so they do end up going to festivals.
- 35:38They do end up getting awards in festivals, which is a big deal
- 35:41given, you know, like the journey is so tough, but the
- 35:46audience still very limited. But the good thing is, I mean,
- 35:49what I'm thinking is that these things happen as, you know,
- 35:53they're cyclical. That if if right now it's a this
- 35:56is a Dark Knight for you know of like Hindi cinema.
- 35:59It's a dip. And yeah, yeah.
- 36:00Because right now there's very limited good stuff coming out of
- 36:03it. Yeah.
- 36:04But because nothing is working, the hope is that people will
- 36:08take a good look, you know, question what they're doing and
- 36:11then try to make something. Better.
- 36:13What the hell are you doing? Yeah, because a lot of them
- 36:16don't know what's. Going on, yeah, The good thing
- 36:20is they've been like, you know, decades in the past when the
- 36:24industry has made really good movies, really good commercial
- 36:27movies, which are also thought promoting.
- 36:29But the last couple of decades they've done like some really
- 36:33lazy. Because they always base it on a
- 36:35previous movie. That's already a step.
- 36:37They try to play really safe now and I'm guessing with this new
- 36:40culture of with this new stress of how to bring audience to
- 36:45cinemas, yeah, they're just getting, they're just playing
- 36:48more safe. Spider Man has a.
- 36:49Brother. Spider Man is a twin.
- 36:54Yeah. Spider man has a head coming out
- 36:57of his head. Oh, man, we've done this all
- 37:00before. Spiderman did it.
- 37:02Yeah, in the television industry has done it all.
- 37:04It's. All Spiderman, Yeah.
- 37:08And what about other countries? Do you have any other?
- 37:11I have a US store in Feb which is the first time I'm going to
- 37:14the US. It's a big deal.
- 37:16So I'm going, I'm doing about 12:13 cities, which is the West
- 37:20Coast, the East Coast in Chicago, Austin, Del.
- 37:23So yeah, it's a great extensive plan.
- 37:26Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm very excited.
- 37:28Like, you know? Wow.
- 37:30And so the US, you've done Europe.
- 37:34Europe I've done, yeah. So with this particular show
- 37:36I've done Europe and Australia in this year and US was the one
- 37:40which took a lot more planning because it's bigger towards way
- 37:44more extensive. Finally, that's happening in Feb
- 37:47and, and in the middle I did the Fringe Festival, which was when
- 37:51I did the English show for the first time.
- 37:53Yeah. How was that?
- 37:55Oh yeah, it was. It was great.
- 37:56Actually. I've been an audience of the
- 37:57Fringe earlier a couple of times.
- 37:59I've come to the Fringe to watch the festival.
- 38:01It's. Very hilly.
- 38:02Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's, it's crazy.
- 38:06I mean, you know, as an audience, actually, you just
- 38:08come, you have fun, you enjoy shows.
- 38:10But I think as an artist, it can also get to you a bit.
- 38:13You know, I was there for the entire month, but I think I
- 38:17really had a great time. And for me, again, this was the
- 38:21first time I was doing my show in English because the audience
- 38:24is way more mixed than I, you know, the audience I see here
- 38:27did. You get a Scottish accent.
- 38:29No, no, somehow I just never get any accent.
- 38:34My own accent is too thick. I think I give people accent,
- 38:38Maybe talk to me for some time and start talking like me.
- 38:42It happens. Really.
- 38:44I'm not like that. I'm not like, I don't have that
- 38:47Madonna thing. I didn't have it over here when
- 38:50I lived over here. Yeah, I do say some words, like
- 38:55cheers. I say a lot, but I'm not very
- 38:59good. Night.
- 39:00I don't pick things up easily. OK, now there is a segment in
- 39:06the show. I don't know if you've seen the
- 39:08show, that's OK. I should I should have where's?
- 39:15The trapdoor. Can.
- 39:17I that it's called fill in the blank.
- 39:21So I'll say a sentence with the blank.
- 39:24You don't have to be funny. Just say the first word that
- 39:27comes into your mind. OK, OK, The biggest splurge, you
- 39:32know, where I spent something on myself I recently did for myself
- 39:37is blank. Hair colour.
- 39:41Hair colouring, Yeah, that's a splurge.
- 39:44Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, so not like a Lamborghini
- 39:48or anything. But.
- 39:50Like hair colour haircut? That's that's where I am in life
- 39:53right now. OK, that's cool.
- 39:55I like blank so much I'm starting to get worried.
- 40:00Oh wow. Oh man, potatoes.
- 40:05You like potatoes so much? You're.
- 40:07Starting to get worried? I keep eating potato all the
- 40:12time, it's so weird. You mean like French fries?
- 40:14Or these cheese and potato things, or every type of potato
- 40:19I've been eating. It's crazy.
- 40:20You eat over here. Yeah, they're everywhere, aren't
- 40:23they? And.
- 40:23I'm eating all of it. Stop it.
- 40:25That's. Potato.
- 40:27It's not even like some exotic meat, no.
- 40:31It's yeah, it's just a potato. It's worrying me.
- 40:33You're not getting enough potatoes in.
- 40:35India a lot. There's something about hot
- 40:39potatoes in this weather, I guess.
- 40:41It is comforting. Yeah, yeah, it feels very good.
- 40:43Blank is getting out of hand. My my non existential love life.
- 40:53Oh my God, what is that? Oh, I see.
- 40:55OK, it's probably in your ACT. It's so not getting out of hand.
- 41:01Oh, so you're doing an anti? Yes.
- 41:03OK, because you're so busy. I'm so busy you.
- 41:06Don't have time to meet? Me.
- 41:07That's a good way to put it. Yeah, it's hard to make.
- 41:11People on tour. Yeah.
- 41:13Yeah, so if anybody wants to meet, no, if I didn't put comic
- 41:21down for my profession. Comic down, yeah.
- 41:24You know, in your passport. In your card.
- 41:28Yeah, coming to a new country, I'd put down blank.
- 41:32If I didn't put down comic, I'd put down blank.
- 41:35Oh man, oh scammer. Scam artist.
- 41:41Scam artist but they would not let me in there, would they?
- 41:45I feel like what we do is very similar to what scam artist.
- 41:48You could put engineer down. Yeah, I could.
- 41:51Basically the question is sort of like maybe if you weren't a.
- 41:55Comic. What would I be?
- 41:57Yeah, I would love to be a dancer, actually.
- 42:01OK, I'm not, but I would love to if I could, you know, if I had
- 42:05training for it. That's something.
- 42:06You always put it in your show. Yeah, I try to like when I'm
- 42:11doing. I think one thing that really
- 42:12stands out in my comedy. But like, why is she dancing?
- 42:15There's no need to move so much, but I do.
- 42:18I did a show once on stage. I hired some dancers for the
- 42:22just for the end. Did you dance?
- 42:25Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:26Do you like dancing? Why are you shocked?
- 42:28Because I don't know. No, I fancy myself a dancer as
- 42:33well. Last one, I'm a blank.
- 42:36A proud blank. I'm proud.
- 42:45Oh my God, what am I proud of? It's such a tough question.
- 42:49You have to, you said. I don't have to be funny, right?
- 42:51No, you can be proud of anything.
- 42:53I'm a proud potato eater. Yeah, yeah, I eat it with pride.
- 42:59A lot of potato. I've been eating so much of it.
- 43:02I need to be proud. Well, that's good.
- 43:06I mean, that's the only way to eat a potato, right?
- 43:08Yeah, yeah. So now I'm gonna ask you if you
- 43:12have anything to plug. It could be also in India.
- 43:16If you. Want or?
- 43:18I'm I'm here in London till Saturday which is the 20th
- 43:22December every day at the Soho Theatre.
- 43:24If you're watching it in the US, I'm coming on in Feb, definitely
- 43:29most probably coming to your city as well.
- 43:31And other than that, yeah, just follow me on Instagram at
- 43:34Prashasti Singh and check out my YouTube channel.
- 43:36A lot of plugging I've done. Now and what what room at the
- 43:40Soho Theatre? The downstairs.
- 43:43Nice, that's a good room. That's a very nice room.
- 43:46I love that room. Good audience.
- 43:48Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Come on down.
- 43:52Yeah. All right.
- 43:54Well, thank you for coming. Thank you.
- 43:55Thank you so much. All the best.
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- 44:16sit back, eat some potatoes. I know I am.
- 44:20I'm really after hearing that I want to eat a whole.
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