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Auburn HC Steven Pearl - Texas A&M Loss · The Auburn Undercover Podcast

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  Yeah, I mean, heartbreaker. Um,
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  you know, first I want to thank our fans
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  for, um, obviously just continuing to do
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  what they do and showing up, um,
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  as they do every night. Um,
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  you know, thought we played, you know,
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  really good basketball for, uh, you
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  know, the first
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  26 minutes. You know, had a 16-point
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  lead and just doing all doing a lot of
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  the right things. um you know early we
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  got rattled by their pressure and had
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  five quick turnovers and um thought we
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  did a better job for the next 20 minutes
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  of not letting their pressure bother us
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  and um you know we talked about in film
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  just not being casual um and not being
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  lazy with getting open and passing and
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  we had you know um you know a stretch
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  there where you know we're up 16 and you
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  know three straight turnovers um on just
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  you know Tahad not getting open and I
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  think Sebastian and Keshan just throwing
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  lazy passes and uh you know they did an
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  unbelievable job of um executing or and
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  just converting off those turnovers. So
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  you know we uh I think fatigue set in a
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  little bit um and uh you know ultimately
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  that that was the difference in the game
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  right there is um you know we just
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  weren't able to take care of the ball
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  and um you know they they made shots
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  after we turned the ball over so they
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  made us pay. So, um, you know, got down
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  12 with 508 left and, uh, you know, they
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  just continue to battle and continue to
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  fight back and they just don't have a
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  lot of quitting them and, um, you know,
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  really proud of that. Um, but, you know,
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  we just got to stop shooting ourselves
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  in the foot and, uh, we, you know, can
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  only look within and, um, only just be
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  accountable for, you know, our mistakes
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  that we made against their pressure.
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  That ultimately was what the difference
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  in the game was.
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  coach sports information came in and
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  said you guys were on the call with the
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  SEC. Can you walk us through the
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  explanation of that final sequence there
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  and what they told you about the clock?
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  >> I don't I don't have a clear
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  understanding still. So, I still got to
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  gather more information and, you know,
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  get an understanding as far as, you
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  know, what their determination was. Um,
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  I didn't want to keep you guys waiting
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  much longer. So, um, I don't I don't
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  have a clear understanding of what
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  they're like the reasoning behind, you
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  know, what they were going off of and,
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  you know, so we're going to gather more
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  information and, you know, hopefully we
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  can kind of elaborate on it. But, um,
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  you know, just from the angles that I
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  saw, uh, it looked like the ball was out
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  of his hands on the red light on the,
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  you know, scoreboard that we were
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  looking at. Uh, but I would imagine that
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  they had a different angle that they
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  were looking at to determine that, you
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  know, the ball wasn't out of his hands.
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  So, you know, I'm just trying to get
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  clarity on a couple things. You know, um
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  the ball on the free throw with 2.6
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  seconds left. Um you know, I'm not sure
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  if the ball hit the backboard. Um you
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  know, we we had this happen with I think
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  Simeon Bowers our first year where we
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  were trying to miss intentionally and,
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  you know, he throws it off the backboard
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  and we told him to just hit the rim and
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  they ended up blowing it dead right then
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  and there. Um which I I mean I don't
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  know. I'm not an official and I would
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  never be an official um because those
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  guys have an impossible job. But
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  from looking at it, if if it's not clear
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  that the ball hits the rim on a free
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  throw
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  determination would be you'd blow it
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  dead right then there just to look. Um
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  you know, but that didn't happen. So I'm
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  not sure uh where they got the 6 from
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  after that. So that's just some
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  questions that I got to ask. Um, but you
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  know, once I get a full rundown because
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  that that that was going to take a while
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  and you know, I just I got to get on to
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  Arkansas. So, um, I'll I'll get brief
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  debrief from John and I'll make sure
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  that I communicate everything very
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  thoroughly with all of you as far as
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  what they told us so you guys can have a
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  better understanding of what you know,
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  why they made that decision.
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  >> Stephen, you got a early update on
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  Philip Jo.
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  >> Yeah. Um, I wasn't really able to talk
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  to Clark after the game. Was a little
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  preoccupied. Um, but it it sound I mean
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  he he I don't know. I don't want to I
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  don't want to elaborate on it too much,
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  but you know, Philip's a tough tough kid
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  and if he's not able to come back into
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  the game, like obviously, you know, he's
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  in a little bit of pain. So, I'll get
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  with uh with Clark and um you know,
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  figure out you know where he's at. But,
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  you know, I just him not being in was
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  huge because it led to, you know, guys
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  having to play a few too many minutes
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  and, you know, um, man, just,
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  you know, with Philip being out right
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  then and there and then, you know, you
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  got Abdul who hasn't been able to play
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  in God knows how long and Mech being out
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  for the season, like our depth is just
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  so limited right now. And, you know, I
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  would have loved to have pressed this
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  team for 40 minutes because you saw how
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  they just kicked the ball over the gym
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  late. Like, they're not great. But while
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  they're a great pressing team, they are
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  not good against pressure and we just we
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  don't have the depth to do it and um you
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  know that's that's on us as a staff. U
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  but obviously you know we we've come run
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  into a string of just unfortunate luck
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  with with some injuries. Um so not sure
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  I'll get a update on Philip and you know
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  try and get that to you guys.
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  >> Coach, second straight game to hot Per
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  coming off the bench. Magwood gets the
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  start. Tahad had 11 for the night. Nine
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  of those in the first half. Did you see
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  some improvement on what you were
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  looking for for him or are still like
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  kind of looking on on what he needs to
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  fix to to get back in that starting role
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  and be a leader for you guys?
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  >> Yeah, just the coach's decision and some
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  carryover from, you know, the Georgia
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  game. So, um, you know, Tahad is, you
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  know, understands what the expectations
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  are and, you know, um, if he continues
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  to handle his business off the floor,
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  then, you know, I hope to see him back
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  in the starting lineup on Saturday.
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  Stephen, do you feel like they changed
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  anything with their defense in the
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  second half to get those turnovers again
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  or is it just like you were saying
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  earlier just more of you guys not doing
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  what y'all needed to do like you did in
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  the first half?
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  >> No, they they didn't they didn't change
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  a whole lot honestly. Um, I think, you
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  know, we we just got I think Todd got
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  tired and, you know, he kind of ran to
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  the corner and, you know, when you get
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  that ball in the deep corner, it's
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  really hard to get out of, especially
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  when they have, you know, good athletes
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  and good size and, you know, credit to
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  Jakari Lane and, uh, those guys, they
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  just, you know, they have they're really
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  quick and really active and they play
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  hard and they just do a really good job
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  of disrupting you. And, um, you know,
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  you know, Ali Da had a had a lot of big
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  minutes for for him. Federico Federico
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  came in and was a really big presence
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  defensively. So, you know, they just
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  they just were really active with their
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  pressure late in the game as as the game
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  went on and, you know, we just kind of
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  got the ball into bad spots and threw
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  really two just two uncharacteristic
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  passes that really really cost us and uh
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  instead of just taking our time, you
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  know, I'd rather have a 5-second call
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  than to do what we did, you know, on
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  both of them because then we could set
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  our defense. Um, you know, one of the
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  things that we talked about in our press
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  was having our twos and threes get down
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  the floor to spread out. So when you
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  turn the ball over, you have no one that
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  can run back in transition and get to
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  those shooters and uh you know um they
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  made us pay for it. So you know, credit
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  to them that they made plays and and you
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  know, in pressure as the game went on
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  and you know, we made some really silly
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  mistakes.
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  >> Stephen, just that that final point 6
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  seconds there, just the emotional swing
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  of seeing it go through the arena
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  erupts, it's chaos, it's pandemonium,
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  then they go to the scores table, they
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  rule it off. Uh, I'm interested in that
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  moment. What the officials say to you
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  and what your line of communication is
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  in that moment.
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  >> Yeah, there was zero communication. So,
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  you know, they didn't say a word. They
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  just said it was no good and ran off the
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  floor. So, I probably wouldn't want to
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  talk to me in that moment anyway. So, I
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  get why they'd run away from me. Um,
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  yeah. I mean, just from the angles that
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  I saw, it looked like it was off his
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  fingers, you know, but that was just I
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  don't have all the same angles they
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  have. So, I'm just looking at a at an
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  iPad, you know, and it looks like on the
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  clock it says 02, but obviously like
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  that. So, I was like on the like on the
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  floor, I'm like, "Shit, we we just won
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  the game." Like, wow. Um, so to go from
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  that to, you know, obviously the crowd
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  sees it on the big jumbotron. They think
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  it's it's good and, you know, everyone
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  thinks that the game's over and I'm just
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  trying to sit there and be like, you
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  know, just hold on. You just never know.
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  And you know, sure enough, um, they they
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  made they made, you know, a decision
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  that, you know, it was I don't know, it
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  was in his it was on his fingertips. So,
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  um, yeah, it's, uh, devastating. But,
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  you know, I told the guys like, we have
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  one choice. Like, what the what else are
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  we going to do? Like, the else are
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  we going to do? Are we going to sit here
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  and just pout about it or are we going
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  to get on to the next one? Like, that's
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  like I'm so excited to get here tomorrow
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  morning and just start grinding again.
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  You know what I mean? Like, I'm proud of
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  these kids, man. like,
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  you know, and I don't really give a I
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  don't care about what what people think,
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  but like man, like I'm like with point4
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  seconds, we're down four and we go to
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  overtime. We're down 12 with 508
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  and we damn near win the game. Like
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  we got something in there, you know? We
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  got something in there. So, I'm I'm
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  incredibly proud of their grit and their
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  in their fight. We just got to be, you
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  know, we we let three seconds. So, I
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  asked the guys like, "How many how many
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  seconds does it take to turn the ball
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  over?"
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  >> Maybe. Yeah. Or or or a second just to
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  make it simple. Okay. We let 3 seconds
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  impact eight minutes of basketball.
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  Think about that. You let three seconds
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  impact eight minutes of basketball.
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  Come on, man.
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  Can't do that.
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  That's part of That's part of growing.
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  That's part of learning. That's just
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  part of, you know, going through
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  together, you know, and this team's been
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  through a lot of together. Sorry, I
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  keep cursing. Apologize, Jan. Um, we've
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  been through a lot of stuff together.
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  And, um, you know, I'm excited for them
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  to, you know, see some positive results,
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  you know. Um, because they deserve it.
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  They they really do. They've worked
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  their tails off and they've stayed
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  connected and for the most part and they
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  they've been locked in and, you know,
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  they want to do the right things. Um, so
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  we just got to keep plugging away and
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  just, you know, just keep doing what we
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  do and just try and get ready for the
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  next one.
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  >> Coach, eight minutes for Kaden, nine for
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  Simon. What did you see out of those
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  guys and what do they need to do to
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  continue getting play time?
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  >> You know, Kaden came in was disrupted by
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  their ball pressure and had some quick
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  turnovers and, you know, I thought he
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  did a really good job in the Georgia
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  game of uh, you know, handling their
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  pressure early. Um, but you know,&M's
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  just way more physical. uh with their
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  press and you know it disrupted him. Um
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  so I I would have you know I would have
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  liked to have played Kaden more. I just
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  didn't feel like he was able to handle
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  that pressure and um you know obviously
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  it bothered him. So that's that was the
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  biggest thing for because offensively I
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  have a ton of confidence in Kaden. I
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  really do. Um you know defensively he
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  had three silly fouls at Georgia which
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  is why he wasn't really you know kind of
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  in that rotation late. Um, but tonight
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  it was, you know, his offense he just he
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  had, you know, three three turnovers and
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  uh that makes it really hard as a when
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  they're pressing the entire game to just
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  continue to go back to him. Simon came
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  in and gave us gave us some great
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  minutes. He was in there on that
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  unfortunate stretch against pressure
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  that had nothing to do with him because
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  he's at half court. He's an outlet. Um,
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  but I want to say before that he was
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  like plus 10 or something. Um, hit a big
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  mid-range jump shot. Uh, had a big steal
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  in transition. um thought he did a
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  really good job of defensively just kind
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  of sitting down and guarding. So, you
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  know, if he continues to do those
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  things, um you know, he'll he'll see
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  he'll see more minutes. Um so, it was
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  good to get a little little more little
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  little contribution from off the bench.
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  >> Coach Sebastian had a really good game
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  in Athens, but didn't find the scoring
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  column tonight. Had 11. How much of that
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  is a point of emphasis on getting more
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  aggressiveness from him both with the
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  ball in his hands and play making
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  without the ball? Yeah, I said coming
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  in, you know, when we had my presser on
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  what was that Monday? On Monday that
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  this would be a good game for him
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  because against pressure ball comes in,
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  you throw it back to the foreman which
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  we you know every time we did we got
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  really good stuff and Sebastian is just
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  really good just bringing it up cuz he's
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  man like he moves so fast. He's under
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  control at the same time. You don't want
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  to get in front of him. He's like a he's
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  like a train. Um, so I knew this would
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  be a good game for him cuz he'd be able
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  to kind of get downhill and, you know,
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  get to the rim and he makes good
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  decisions with the ball. So, was great
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  to see him be more aggressive. Love
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  watch love to see him shoot a couple
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  threes. Obviously, the free throw line
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  is something that he's just got to
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  continue to improve on. But, you know, I
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  thought a lot of really good things that
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  he was way more productive in in his
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  minutes tonight. You know, plus 10 and
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  the plus minus. So, you know, he's just
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  he's such a special talent, special kid,
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  special player. So going to need, you
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  know, obviously if Philip's out, I'm
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  going to need, you know, him to, you
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  know, have a lot a lot of step up.