Latest / The Stand with Meg Show / What About the Kids? Hope, Stories, and Parenting with Julie Lavender Le Doux | EP. 19
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Are we just going to let our kids be harmed by it, or are we going to help them become savvy and resilient?
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: So my books are all about helping kids become savvy and resilient.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: And I use symbolism throughout so that it doesn't really matter what the latest operation is, they can see it because they understand.
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 0:34SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Stand with Meg Show.
- 0:36SPEAKER_02: What story is a child telling about themselves when the fight in the house is not their fault?
- 0:41SPEAKER_02: This is a show where we rip the mask off a system that is hurting our families.
- 0:45SPEAKER_02: We defend parents' rights.
- 0:47SPEAKER_02: We protect children and with a voice for the voiceless.
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Meg, investigative journalist.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: My next guest writes children's books, and I'm so excited to have her on.
- 0:56SPEAKER_02: Her name is Julie Lavender Ledoux.
- 0:58SPEAKER_02: She is a jazz musician, an artist, an author, a homeschool mom, and a grandma.
- 1:02SPEAKER_02: She lives with her husband and her kids at a place they called Dream Farm.
- 1:07SPEAKER_02: She is here because she builds stories that help a child stay hopeful when the house is under stress.
- 1:12SPEAKER_02: The single most important thing that she said that I loved when she filled out her form.
- 1:16SPEAKER_02: The most important outcome of a person's life is a story they believed about themselves and their world.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: Julie, welcome to the show.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: I'm so glad you're here.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you.
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: And I'm excited to talk to your audience because I know that y'all have been through a lot of things.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: And probably the biggest thing you're worried about is how your kids are going to do.
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: And so I'm hoping to bring something to you that's going to be healing and exciting and uplifting and entertaining to your kids.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: And I'm super, I would have loved to have books like this for my children because they would have loved them.
- 1:48SPEAKER_02: Um we need more books like this.
- 1:50SPEAKER_02: So tell us a little bit about how you started into this and just kind of the path into writing children's books.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, I'm just gonna hold one up.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Just so this is book one.
- 2:01SPEAKER_00: This is Constance in the Battle for Wonder.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: And I was I was writing this book, and I was writing about non-conformity because I could see way back when when our kids are little that most outcomes of most people who weren't paying attention, their kids got snaggled along the way and wound up being unhappy and conflicted and messed up, frankly.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: Everywhere I went, I noticed kind of um an expectation that kids were gonna be cute and then they were gonna be out of control.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 2:36SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
- 2:37SPEAKER_00: And they were gonna get, they were gonna hit puberty, something was gonna go wrong.
- 2:41SPEAKER_00: They were gonna be kind of messed up, and now of course they're gonna wind up with tattoos and purple hair and things everywhere and substance problems, you know.
- 2:50SPEAKER_00: But we'll figure it out in the end because families always do.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: The super low expectation theater of how parents were expecting to interact with their kids.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: And so I started analyzing how why is this a norm?
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: Why do we expect kids to go off the rails?
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: And so I began to think about what kind what how radical we would have to be as parents, how different we'd have to be, what kind of systems we'd have to change or do things outside of in order to have a different outcome.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: And and so it prepped me like, how much do I really want to see my children have wholeness and have souls and be um uh flowing individuals, individuals, critical thinkers, and also just be and not all of a sudden waking up one day and hating their parents.
- 3:41SPEAKER_00: Why do we assume it's just normal?
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: And I and I began to really think about systems of education, systems education, media, peer relationships, obviously, um commercials that are telling us all what we have to be like and own in order to be good enough and cool enough.
- 3:59SPEAKER_00: And so I started to develop a radical mindset about being being willing to be very different about everything we did in our family in order to have a different outcome.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: And my husband did too.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: And so I'm interested in that because one of the things we did was homeschool.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: I was homeschooled, yeah, and and there's so many different ways to do it and stuff, and along the way, we had our tragedies as homeschoolers.
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: So don't be thinking that that the idea of us being on dream farm meant we didn't have nightmares because we did, which is why the book series became important because I needed to write about where the rubber meets the road for this family.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: So we started out with this book called Constance and the Battle for Wonder, and it was about one family in an entirely colorblind town.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: They can see color because they interact with a supernatural realm called wonder.
- 4:55SPEAKER_00: And see, this is all gray, the whole town is gray, but this one family sees in color, lives in a colorful house, they think differently, they're outside the box.
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: They don't, they're kind of normies, so they don't really know why.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: They just like their color, and and they don't really realize you see, everybody who conforms to the order, there's this thing called the prescribed order in town.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: And when you hear that, I want you to think about what you're being told and your kids are being told at all times they have to do to be okay and fit in the prescribed order.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: The the the the RX for fitting in, for for being okay, for being valued, for being pretty enough, for being smart enough, for being accepted, the prescribed order.
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: So everybody in this town that conforms to the order loses their ability to see color over time, they get colorblind.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, and they're just used to it.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: They're just used to it, but they have no idea that behind the scenes there are a shadowy group of people who who have set this whole deal up, and they're called the elders of the order.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: And they want control of every sorry, control of everyone.
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: Oh, you got it, yeah.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: All times, love it.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: They're pretty ticked off about the one family that's not conforming in their town.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Well, what could possibly go wrong when this family sends their daughter to school here at the grown-up factory so she can just see how the other half lives and makes some new friends?
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: They don't realize what they're stepping into.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: And most parents have no idea how the deck is stacked against us.
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: And in your situation, you see it in the legal situation, right?
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: But it starts way back in preschool, my friends.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: It starts way back in in the TV shows you you throw your kids in front of.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: There is a very seriously orchestrated uh effort to get control of you and your kids.
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- 7:41SPEAKER_02: And they're doing it not just through TV, they're even therapists, quarter porn therapists are doing it.
- 7:45SPEAKER_02: G-A-L are manipulating and teaching children things behind your back.
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's exactly right.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: And in our state, they made it illegal to help kids with gender issues sort them out.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: That would be you could lose your license for trying to help them sort it out.
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: Instead, you had to be affirming for whatever that looked like that that the experts, you know, were gonna tell us all about biology out of nowhere, you know, changing the world without your per permission, mom and dad.
- 8:16SPEAKER_00: And so, so what happens when this girl goes up here to just see how how it is?
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: She doesn't realize that the decisions she makes will affect the destiny of her entire town, of her entire town.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: And this is where we begin the series.
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: And all I was interested in was writing a good book about non-conformity.
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: I'm interested in in how what it takes to really be outside of the control systems of our society.
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: What kind of kids do you have to raise that will that won't feel like they have to throw you under the bus by the time they go by the time they're 14 because you're not cool and break up the family and lie to you and choose that, you know, choose loyalty to another system or another set of priorities over what you're building together with them.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: Why do we assume that the outcome most people have with their kids is normal?
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: It's not, it's not normal.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: We've been conditioned to think that the kinds of outcomes people have in families and marriages and schools is just how it is.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: Well, so I just write this one little book and it turns into a whole series.
- 9:25SPEAKER_01: Look at all those.
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I love it.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: Like this one, when they can't get control of Constance in in book one, they decide to use science to tell her that her belief in wonder is so stupid.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: She believes that it's a cool, it reminds me of like a place where if you have like multiple kids, different genders, where it could be like you like the first one looks more like a girl, right?
- 9:49SPEAKER_02: A girly book, but then you just turned it to like my son would have loved that.
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: And so it makes them in my books.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: Every every family member, every kid, yeah.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: We start out with constants, and by and that makes it kids be able to talk about the same type of book.
- 10:05SPEAKER_02: So I love that you do that because it shows that they can actually talk.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: And he and they want to use the school science fair to control to get constants to believe that the ex trust the science, the experts.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: You can't believe things we don't want you to believe or think ways we don't want you to think because we're experts, and so we're gonna have a science fair to prove it to you.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: But the elders of the order say, hmm, science is tricky because if you don't control the questions, you don't control the answers.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: So they control the questions the kids are allowed to ask at the science fair, which drives Constance's brother crazy.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: And he brings back a supernatural science project from the realm of wonder.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: You see, it's the realm of wonder that gives this family resources to think for themselves, to be different, and to go against the tide.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Well, uh unfortunately, the science project, the supernatural one, gets way out of control and it's very, very dangerous and intriguing and exciting.
- 11:07SPEAKER_00: But the outcome is that because of this one family, other people, other kids in Greystone Heights start to see color.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: Oh, so it starts to spread.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Yes, but by book three, you see, the elders of the order are now terrified.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: Oh, of course they are.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: Now we have the nerdy brother who reads the dictionary for fun, and this is a book about propaganda.
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: Wow, oh my gosh, this is so amazing.
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: Elders of the order can't stand the fact that not only did they not get Constance and her family in their grip, now Constance and her family are are helping other people see and think and see color.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: And so they tell everybody, color could kill you.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: And overnight there's a plague in town, and you have to stay safe at all times and obey us and trust the science because color could kill you.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, and you know, in order to make sure you catch the color disease and die, we want you to wear something on your face at all times to keep you from getting a speck of color in there, or you could get so sick.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: Oh then wear gray glasses on their face at all times.
- 12:27SPEAKER_00: And this one kid says, you know, mom, that's so stupid because that's not how disease works, that's not how how immunology works.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: If there really was a microscopic thing that can make you sick, you're never gonna be safe by sticking something on your face.
- 12:42SPEAKER_00: You'd have to live in a bubble.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: So he starts a newspaper to tell the truth about what's really going on and cause people to think, well, what could possibly go wrong when the one non-conforming family in the town has a kid that starts a newspaper?
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: Do you think he's gonna get bullied and canceled?
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: Do you think he's gonna he's gonna be community noted?
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: Do you think that the lies about him?
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: And and do you think that that everyone's gonna scream at them when they leave the house without their glasses on?
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: You know, do you think maybe we went through something like that?
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: Do you think maybe your kids went through something like that?
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: Do you think maybe it traumatized them?
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: Do you think maybe they worried at night that they could kill grandma if they went over to see her?
- 13:28SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, that's right.
- 13:30SPEAKER_00: Maybe that we were all sold this massive psychological operation to control us and terrorize us and get us ready for the thing we have to put in our bodies to keep us safe.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: That's in book four.
- 13:50SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I would have died for this with my kids.
- 13:53SPEAKER_02: I had five during COVID.
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: I had kindergartner, two kindergartners, a first grade, third grade, and then a fifth grade.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 14:03SPEAKER_02: It was all five.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: And then it was so this every single one of our kids were traumatized.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: Everyone were lied to.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: We were we were locked in our houses, we were terrorized, we were manipulated, we were controlled.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: It was a massive, worldwide psychological operation by a few people who have a very dark agenda for humanity.
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: That's the truth.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry for that.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: It's hard for you to hear.
- 14:27SPEAKER_02: No, and I think the worst part of it was it like broke up my own family, and I have nine siblings, so half did one and half did the other.
- 14:33SPEAKER_02: Well, the ones that did this hated us.
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 14:35SPEAKER_00: So our family just went like this.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: Well, I carry that, I take that on in this book.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: Because what happens, remember?
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: Constance goes to school.
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: This is book three, and it's Charleston and Constance and the Bambastic, bombastic baffle gab.
- 14:50SPEAKER_00: That's fun words for propaganda.
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: Well, Constance, remember, she's going to school to make some friends, and she goes one day, and all of a sudden, all she gets the color can kill you, wear your glasses, you have to obey us at all times.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: And now she doesn't trust her herself or her family anymore.
- 15:06SPEAKER_00: So I unpack what it's like to be in a family that's divided by this psychological operation and this terrorization, and how much can and how the family members are struggling with the brokenness in their family.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: See, I'm taking on the deepest issues of our time.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: You are, but I'm so hilarious and fun that I'm not.
- 15:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, because this is not this can be toward any type of, let's say that mom and a dad are different, one's left and one's right.
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: One's believes this and one's believes that.
- 15:33SPEAKER_02: It happens even in their home.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: In this book, when they can't control everybody by keeping making them wear their gray glasses on their face at all times, and the kids don't want to wear the glasses, the kids want to see color for themselves.
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: Then the elders of the order said, Well, we're just gonna lock you in your houses until you put this thing in your body to keep you safe.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: So they roll out these things called safety drops for the kids' eyes, and they say, They'll make you permanently colorblind, so then you can come out of your houses again.
- 16:06SPEAKER_00: So you're keeping permanently stupid and dumb and unable to think for yourself and also medically compromised.
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: Because what happens in this book is the thing they tell everybody that's going to keep them safe actually harms the children.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: This is what we're living through.
- 16:25SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is amazing.
- 16:27SPEAKER_02: Amazing.
- 16:27SPEAKER_00: And guess what?
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: I have a character in this book named Ms.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: Anthropomorphia Slouchy, the commissioner for the center of control or control, the CCC, the commissioner of the CCC who makes all the mandates and all the rules and goes on TV all the time to tell everybody that they need to conform and trust the science and take the drops and wear the glasses to keep them safe.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
- 16:57SPEAKER_00: And now who's on TV all the time in big trouble?
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Mr.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: Fauci.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: And I was on him back and you know, three, four years ago exposing this corruption in the medical company.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: Now you need to do a follow-up.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: I plead the fifth.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: But no, but the thing is, is that my characters, my evil characters, are so compelling and so hilarious.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: Because kids need to see how dumb evil is.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: Evil is dumb and stupid.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: They're stupid.
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: You know, like in uh in one of my books, I have a character named Karen who wears two pairs of gray glasses at all times just to make sure she's extra super duper safe, right?
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Ms.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: Slouchie doesn't wear her glasses unless people are watching.
- 17:46unknown: Oh my gosh.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: Love it.
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: What do you do?
- 17:50SPEAKER_00: This, but I'm telling the truth story of what's happened to us, how we got here through the corruption of our institutions, through education, through science, through media, through, through, through medicine, right?
- 18:03SPEAKER_00: To control a population.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: And in my books, the kids are and and the parents are going, wow, that's really weird.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: Why do you think they're doing that?
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: And they talk about it and they try to figure it out and they understand it and they process it.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: Because my family, the Faltz and family in this book is waking up.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: And aren't we all just kind of waking up?
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: And then you realize, like in your situation, and it's happened to us, we needed the help of the legal system in our state.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: And it was so corrupt, it it destroyed our business.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: Because it and it just and I've seen I've seen this happen.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: Well, we you know, take take kids away from their parents.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: How dare you, parents, want to have a choice about how you raise your kids and the values you teach them?
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: How dare you?
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: We'll just take them away from you.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: We'll just terrorize you and we'll give them different names and different sexes and stick stuff in their body because we can.
- 18:55SPEAKER_00: And this is the world our kids are dealing with, right?
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: So, guys, how are you gonna talk to them about that without terrorizing?
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get my books for gosh sakes, because guess what?
- 19:06SPEAKER_00: By book five, I take on the World Economic Forum, the Great Reset, and weather weaponry.
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: Have we not seen weather weaponry?
- 19:16SPEAKER_00: Oh, so good.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: So they can sweep in and buy the property and so they can control people and say, you know, now you really need the great reset because of all this terrible weather.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: Because you know, now you should give up all your rights.
- 19:32SPEAKER_00: You because you should eat bugs and you should have nothing and be happy.
- 19:37SPEAKER_00: This is legit.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: This these people little puppet strings up somewhere in the ethos, the ether, are notching down every day into our lives through media, through business, through education, through medicine, through you know, everything.
- 19:54SPEAKER_00: They're trying to raise us up like pets.
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: They want human beings more like pets, right?
- 19:59SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 20:00SPEAKER_00: And so the thing of it is is how the heck do you prepare your kids for this world?
- 20:05SPEAKER_00: We I'm telling you, I've got your answer.
- 20:09SPEAKER_00: Because in these books, and I've study guides for them, and they're they're super fun, they're a great read.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: I have uh these little guides you can get to talk to, you know, to talk to you.
- 20:19SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say that.
- 20:20SPEAKER_02: Do you recommend parents read the book to talk about it?
- 20:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would say you almost need two so that you can have yours.
- 20:27SPEAKER_00: And yes, parents love these books, adults love these books because they're healing.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: I I was at a conference and and one of the ladies had she was she's 40 something, she said, Oh my gosh, I loved your book because I just I it just I just felt like I was I was understood and see everybody's got is a grown-up us and then there's a little kid inside of we still have the childhood wounds, yeah.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: A little kid inside of us that can't believe how ugly things are are out there sometimes.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: It hurts us.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: And so if you have really good high-quality children's literature, it speaks to adults, right?
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: And and we want to heal the souls, and we look, they our kids believe a lot of stuff about what happened in 2020, 2021, and uh and and and I I think it's time somebody like me told them the truth with a spoonful of wonder.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: And I'm the red-pilled Mary Poppins, you know, because um if Mary Poppins took the red pill from the Matrix movie, she'd use her spoonful of sugar to write these books because this is this taking care of business, right?
- 21:33SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: Dog dies, you don't not tell your kids.
- 21:37SPEAKER_00: If you wake up with this level of corruption in all these areas of society, and maybe it's separated your family from you.
- 21:44SPEAKER_00: Maybe you haven't seen your children because of all the wickedness and the and the evil and the corruption.
- 21:49SPEAKER_00: You know, are we just gonna let our kids be harmed by it, or are we gonna help them become savvy and resilient?
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: So, my books are all about helping kids become savvy.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: And resilient.
- 22:01SPEAKER_00: And I use symbolism throughout so that it doesn't really matter what the latest operation is, they can they can see it because they understand.
- 22:10SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, mom, it's just like what we went through in 2020.
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: They're doing it again.
- 22:17SPEAKER_00: We need kids like that, right?
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: And so we don't live in this kind of numbed out mystery.
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess the world's just really a bad place, and I'm just gonna, you know, I'm just gonna check out.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: You know, we don't want kids like that.
- 22:30SPEAKER_00: We want kids that are savvy and resilient.
- 22:32SPEAKER_00: What the amazing series is about a family that's not particularly amazing.
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: You know, they're full of faults, yeah, but they're figuring it out together, and it's teaching an intact family because we have to teach that again because so many of us have been wounded by broken families.
- 22:48SPEAKER_00: Yep, we want to teach them again to believe that's possible, to believe people can be healed and whole, and teach them about the supernatural realm of wonder because it's real, it's real, and our kids need it to be able to handle what's what's going on around us.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: So these books are not just you know fun fiction fantasy books.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: They are they are like um books on a mission to help heal your kids and prepare them for the future.
- 23:16SPEAKER_02: And I recommend if their parents are separated and they have good care co-parenting, which they should, I recommend mom and dad you both read this so you can carry on the conversation between the homes.
- 23:28SPEAKER_02: And so your child will then feel connected because both mom and dad are reading the same book and they all talk.
- 23:34SPEAKER_02: And that to me would build a connection between a broken family, but yet it's still the child will feel like it's connected.
- 23:40SPEAKER_02: So I do recommend both parents reading this.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: That's right.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: And um, the other thing is I was interviewed by a podcaster who's kind of a little bit of a gloomy guy, and he's going, Parents are doing, you know, kids don't do this and they don't have their brains and they don't do that, and it's so and I said, You want to heal your mind?
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: You want to see your kids come back from the dark side?
- 24:00SPEAKER_00: Read to them for 15 minutes a night, just start with 15 minutes and read them a great book and put your things down and just family reading time, book in hand, and you'll watch, they'll go from 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, maybe longer, with a fascinating book, and you're and and over time, even just a few weeks of doing that, brains come back.
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: You know, when you pick up a book and read mom and dad, you your brain starts to heal.
- 24:26SPEAKER_00: Books can heal brains, big books can heal souls.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: Just to be careful, don't give your kids occult books, don't give them dark books, dark books.
- 24:34SPEAKER_00: Most of the books out there for kids, these are for kids 10 to 14, okay?
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: Younger kids can enjoy them, but they're deep enough that you you want to have kids that are thinking a little bit more.
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: Um, but most of the books out there that are popular are dystopium, they're occult-oriented, they there's no right and wrong, there's no real victory.
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: They think that they're cool and sophisticated by leaving kids with just as many unanswered questions at the end of the book as they had at the beginning.
- 25:02SPEAKER_00: And that's going back.
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: That's postmodernism.
- 25:06SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's postmodernism is the idea that if you have if you know anything too good, and there you really have a right and wrong and and a truth statement, there's something wrong with you.
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: So we can't do that.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: We can't give kids a truth statement, can't we?
- 25:21SPEAKER_00: Well, we better, because that's what's that's what gives them a place to land.
- 25:26SPEAKER_00: And they they'll question, believe me, they'll have their questions about your truth statement, but you have to give them some place to start.
- 25:33SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: So when I was thinking of when you said that was I always had a book for each of my children.
- 25:40SPEAKER_02: My twins wrote one book, they all got to pick every night.
- 25:42SPEAKER_02: And I remember I couldn't wait till they got old enough to be able to sit through a chapter and start that we could build on a book, and of course, then they got taken.
- 25:50SPEAKER_02: But um, but this is also something grandparents can do.
- 25:54SPEAKER_02: So my I know I'm missing out on a very big part of my children's lives, but at least I had 10 years with them when they were young.
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: But I, my whole thinking now is I'm it's sad that I'm missing all this, but I know all grandkids one day, and I will do this with my grandchildren.
- 26:08SPEAKER_02: And and just think even connecting with your grandchild in this way, where you read it, a grandma or grandfather, and then when you just say, Hey, you're visiting, read 15 minutes, like you said, or chapter every visit.
- 26:18SPEAKER_02: And that's gonna bring your the grandparents and children relationship closer together.
- 26:22SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 26:23SPEAKER_00: So and these books, by the way, are classics.
- 26:25SPEAKER_00: They're they're they will never age out.
- 26:27SPEAKER_00: They're because they're I'm writing the true story of what's happened to us.
- 26:31SPEAKER_00: So 10, 20, 30 years from now, these are really super high quality magazine paper quality, classic.
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: They're not consumables and they're fully illustrated because color, because color is is a metaphor, a symbol of of uh clear thinking and and resilience.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: And and so there's great gray illustrations to show you that, and then there's full color illustrations throughout the whole book to help kids uh process the idea of thinking and asking and coming alive instead of numbing out and withdrawing from a dark world, right?
- 27:08SPEAKER_00: But um, these books will be classics, people will pull them off the shelves 20, 30 years from now and go, Oh my gosh, that's exactly what we lived through.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: That's this is history, and so so you get, you know, so Meg, you will you will be able to read them to your grandchildren, and and if not your own, sooner than you think, because um, because they're classics, they're not, I'm not gonna be able to.
- 27:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I think even you know, above 14, even just hanging out and say, Hey, did you read this?
- 27:35SPEAKER_02: Because I think if like you said, the parent loved it, it could an 18-year-old could love it, a 21-year-old could love it, because they still might they have that pain from their past.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: Well, plus, you know, they're childlike but not child-ish.
- 27:48SPEAKER_00: And so sometimes, and also we have struggling readers now because of so much screen time.
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: So picking up a book that's less threatening because it's got illustrations in it, right?
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 27:58SPEAKER_00: The vocabulary is really rich, very rich vocabulary, but it's written so that you can kids can figure out the meaning of the new word because of the context, so it doesn't get in their way.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: But super fun, interesting words, you know, like bombastic, bombastic baffle gap.
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Wow, what a weird name.
- 28:18SPEAKER_00: Bombastic, what does that mean?
- 28:20SPEAKER_00: And it it unfolds.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: What is a what is baffled?
- 28:24SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
- 28:25SPEAKER_00: It means propaganda.
- 28:27unknown: Oh, cool.
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: And and so these I love to use words in ways that will make kids feel really special because they're like, Well, I I I just read a book with a big old word in it, and and I kind of got what it meant, you know.
- 28:43SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, you know, I had one girl read one of my books once, and she said, she said, My teacher doesn't think I'm I can read a book like this.
- 28:55SPEAKER_00: She was she was labeled.
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: They don't think I can read books like this at school because she had she had some kind of diagnosis.
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: And so I handed her a copy of one of my books, and I said, What do you she started reading it just she was in an adult meeting, and so I didn't want her to be bored.
- 29:13SPEAKER_00: So I said, Here, here's one of my books, you know, and she's reading it and she goes, You know, they don't think I can read books like this.
- 29:22SPEAKER_00: She was junior high girl, and so I know that they can you, you know, I read kids' books, so I I I don't think it should be a you know, and sometimes if you have an older kid and they're reticent because they think they're too cool, you can have that kid read out loud to a younger kid in the family and just say, here's your job for today.
- 29:41SPEAKER_00: I want you to read so many, you know, of these.
- 29:44SPEAKER_00: If you go to my website, by the way, and you buy a book bundle, you get the audiobooks for free.
- 29:49SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna ask, is there audiobooks?
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: Because my like I know my brother um loved to read, but then at night he'd love to listen to the audiobook while you fall asleep.
- 29:59SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, the advantage to that is if you want to get your kids involved in a new book that and they're there's we're all reticent readers now because of screens.
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: They've turned our brains off.
- 30:09SPEAKER_00: So you have to make that extra effort to pick up the book rather than just put the podcast on and chill out, right?
- 30:15SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
- 30:16SPEAKER_00: So um you can get the audiobooks and listen together to the first chapter or so until your kids are ready to know more.
- 30:23SPEAKER_00: And then you say, Great, well, and you can have the book in your hand.
- 30:25unknown: Right.
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: And you can go, hey, well, let's turn that off and or you know, and let's read this together.
- 30:30SPEAKER_00: Or if you're separated from your kids, but they are reading them, you can listen to the audiobook in the car on the way to and from school.
- 30:37SPEAKER_00: So you know what they're reading, right?
- 30:40unknown: Yeah.
- 30:40SPEAKER_00: So if you get the book bundle, you get the map of Greystone Heights and you get the free audiobooks, and you there's also like puzzles and search things.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: I think I send out as a business so for to help with the vocabulary.
- 30:51SPEAKER_02: So I mean it's it's this would be something also great for like runification for parents that are stuck in it.
- 30:57SPEAKER_02: And I know some that are stuck in it for two years to start doing with their children when they only get to see them once or twice a week.
- 31:02SPEAKER_02: Um, it'd be a good activity.
- 31:04SPEAKER_02: And that the fact that you have activities they can do together to go with it, I think that's amazing.
- 31:08SPEAKER_00: Well, if there's a bundle, a book bundle that where you can get the study guides for a little bit more, you still get the audiobooks for free, you still get the the puzzles as a gift, you still get the um the map of Greystone Heights.
- 31:21SPEAKER_00: So, like, are these on Amazon?
- 31:23SPEAKER_00: Yes, but they're way more expensive there because Amazon always takes its share.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: Huge cut.
- 31:28SPEAKER_00: If you go to my website, an individual book is like$19.97.
- 31:33SPEAKER_00: But if you get the book bundle, they the price goes down, you get the audiobooks for free, you can get the bundle with a study guide, and you get some bonuses.
- 31:42SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: Because I just want to sell books.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: Look, I could I could be doing a lot of things besides doing this, because it's hard to do this.
- 31:52SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm passionate about that's a huge thing.
- 31:56SPEAKER_00: See, like, here's the deal.
- 31:58SPEAKER_00: I'm going to I go to different conferences of activists and parents that are trying to change things and fix stuff and deal with corruption and you know protect their kids, right?
- 32:07SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 32:07SPEAKER_00: And they've got all these booths full of things for the parents, you know, here, you know, wake up, this is happening, or here's how you deal with this problem.
- 32:16SPEAKER_00: There's nothing for the kids at these conferences.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: There's nothing.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: No, you know.
- 32:20SPEAKER_00: No.
- 32:20SPEAKER_00: And so do you and I say to these people, look, we're getting really good at educating adults about the system.
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: 100% agree.
- 32:30SPEAKER_00: But if we don't, if the kids don't understand what's happening and what's happening to them, what what it's like to process through trauma, what a healthy family looks like, what reading can be like, what fun can be like, what what victory in your heart and healing in your heart can be like.
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: Well, then we've le we've just lost another generation.
- 32:49SPEAKER_00: It'll just happen again.
- 32:50SPEAKER_02: And so it'll be in a different form.
- 32:53SPEAKER_02: It's gonna constantly keep changing because it'll find different ways to attack our children.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 32:57SPEAKER_00: So you want it, and you want, there's nothing like a really, really good book for your kids.
- 33:02SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 33:02SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's so appealing to the soul.
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: I had a mom come up to me at the conference I was just at, and she's oh my gosh, my kids love your books.
- 33:10SPEAKER_00: She said, We have a family library, and I know how it's going because they keep your books keep being missing from the shelves.
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: She said, My kids have read your books like three times, and that's because she just had two and three times, because the first three, she just had the first three, right?
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: Which are immediately available, by the way.
- 33:28SPEAKER_00: Books one, two, and three.
- 33:29SPEAKER_00: Four, five, and six are are on their way from India to the warehouse because I print, I print my own books, make sure the quality is really good.
- 33:38SPEAKER_00: And then so those will ship in November just in time for Christmas.
- 33:41SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say, are just in time for Christmas.
- 33:43SPEAKER_02: So if somebody orders the whole bundle now, would you ship off if it's a Christmas present?
- 33:48SPEAKER_02: Would you then just ship off until you get the whole bundle?
- 33:51SPEAKER_00: No, I think the way we've set it up, you I mean, you have to pay a little bit more shipping to have to get, but you're gonna get the first three books pretty quick with the bonuses and everything.
- 34:01SPEAKER_00: You can download the audiobooks and all that stuff, and you can download the study guides.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: So, like, for example, if you are homeschooling family or you want to augment what your children are learning, you want them to think more, you want to have the questions to ask about the material and some activities, you know, you're gonna get the study guides.
- 34:18SPEAKER_00: And you can get so the first three books you and the and those bonuses and options you can get right away.
- 34:24SPEAKER_00: Then um, then you will pre-order books four and five.
- 34:28SPEAKER_02: Well, you could that could be a good like an Easter gift or as you know, and a later gift on and tell a child you'll get in, you'll get this if you finish, you know.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't think you're gonna have to convince a child to read these books, um, but it could be a good little thing to send it for children.
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: You can get you can get books one through three, and then you can pre-order the other ones, and they'll they'll be at your house, you know, by Christmas, but you can dole them out if you want.
- 34:53SPEAKER_00: So the first the first five books are for kids 10 to 14.
- 34:59SPEAKER_00: I don't know if know if I can hold them all.
- 35:01SPEAKER_00: Hold all of them?
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: You can do it.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
- 35:02SPEAKER_00: Come on.
- 35:03SPEAKER_00: Got it, get it.
- 35:06unknown: Woo!
- 35:08SPEAKER_00: But the series carries on, and it'll ultimately be a 10-book series.
- 35:12SPEAKER_00: So this one is for 14 and up.
- 35:15SPEAKER_00: And it nothing can there's nothing to hurt a child.
- 35:18SPEAKER_00: I'm never, you know, I'm I'm really protective about what goes in my books, but the the thoughts get deeper.
- 35:23SPEAKER_00: And also, you know, in books one through five, I'm saying, how do we get here?
- 35:28SPEAKER_00: The world is a really weird place.
- 35:29SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
- 35:30SPEAKER_00: How are they manipulating us?
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: How are they controlling us?
- 35:33SPEAKER_00: How are they using things against us to keep us funneled in a certain way?
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: In books uh six through ten, I unpack the emotional fallout of what of how that lands in kids' hearts, right?
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: So um uh and so that's that's where that will continue on.
- 35:52SPEAKER_00: There's and Mrs.
- 35:53SPEAKER_00: Amazing in the Seed is the first kind of transition into the 14 and up book, but you know, series.
- 36:00SPEAKER_02: Well, I have so many people, even just homeschooling parents, that um they homeschool but they adopted two other kids and they're struggling with it's a great family, great parents, but they're struggling with the adopted ones.
- 36:11SPEAKER_02: And and so I think this is just for any family that's still together, not together.
- 36:16SPEAKER_02: I mean, we all need this.
- 36:18SPEAKER_02: Everybody, every child needs this.
- 36:20SPEAKER_02: Have you ever thought about doing younger kids from like five to eight books before?
- 36:26SPEAKER_00: I haven't.
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: I have a couple of ideas.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: Um, my hands are full right now.
- 36:32SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they are.
- 36:35SPEAKER_00: You know, my husband is such is such an incredible support, but this is all a labor of love.
- 36:41SPEAKER_00: So all the costs involved in printing the books and promoting the books have landed on his desk.
- 36:50SPEAKER_00: I'm a blessed woman, but you know, um uh he understands, you know, what we started to tell you, you know, we homeschooled and everything, but one of our children was abused by a neighbor, you know, in that wow.
- 37:01SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I understand trauma parents, I really do.
- 37:05SPEAKER_00: And so I'm writing the truth stories of how people um how people really are dealing with real stuff.
- 37:15SPEAKER_00: And so I'm writing, but I'm not doomy.
- 37:18SPEAKER_00: I I think we live in a great awakening.
- 37:21SPEAKER_00: I think I think uh that given the right um opportunities and the right resources, your kids are gonna kill it.
- 37:31SPEAKER_00: They're gonna be great, really.
- 37:33SPEAKER_00: I do, and and so as and one of those resources, I would rather I mean I'd love to come back and talk more about it for just this one.
- 37:40SPEAKER_00: This is this is my book on emotional healing.
- 37:44SPEAKER_00: Like it's this is the biblical steps to getting your kids emotionally healed of their traumas and wounds during story time.
- 37:50SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: You actually can walk you yourself and your children through powerful emotional healing in just a few minutes.
- 38:00SPEAKER_00: Your memories can be healed.
- 38:01SPEAKER_00: Did you know that your memories can be drained out?
- 38:05SPEAKER_00: God can drain the pain out of your memories in just a few minutes.
- 38:10SPEAKER_00: And this book explains how, why it's biblical, why it works.
- 38:14SPEAKER_00: And I can tell you from experience that we use this with our traumatized child and all of the fallout in the family.
- 38:21SPEAKER_00: And also, um, I've walked through people, people from all over the world through these steps of emotional healing, and the stories I get back are amazing.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet I can't imagine.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: Right, right, because see the thing is is that um trauma is stored in your brain as as images through me through memories or triggers.
- 38:43SPEAKER_00: So when you get a memory healed so that you remember what happened, but it doesn't hurt you anymore, you don't get triggered anymore.
- 38:49SPEAKER_00: So this is another whole thing that you know, we should probably just do a whole show about this one.
- 38:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we should, because you brought tears.
- 39:00SPEAKER_00: It's you can get it on my website.
- 39:02SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give you the website.
- 39:03SPEAKER_00: You can get it now, okay.
- 39:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and in and everything, okay, but it deserves a whole unpacking.
- 39:11SPEAKER_00: The bottom is that the number one thing that will determine your success or failure in life is the story you believe about yourself and your world as God, right?
- 39:22SPEAKER_02: And how you handle the pain and how you, you know, I I love when I heard this the other day where some something's gonna grow.
- 39:28SPEAKER_02: You can grow weeds or you can grow a garden flowers.
- 39:31SPEAKER_02: Either way, pick one.
- 39:33SPEAKER_02: And what you choose to do during that pain is what really sets you apart.
- 39:38SPEAKER_00: Um you have to believe in yourself though to do that.
- 39:42SPEAKER_00: And the story you've made up about the pain.
- 39:44SPEAKER_00: Children create stories to try to make sense of pain, which is why they tend to feel guilty if mom and dad do something stupid and they think it's their fault, right?
- 39:53SPEAKER_00: So we want to help them have accurate and healthy and and beautiful stories to live out of, right?
- 40:01SPEAKER_00: Amen.
- 40:01SPEAKER_00: And I I I had terrible stories I was living out of.
- 40:04SPEAKER_00: And my kids through trauma and difficult things and just being human.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: That's some really crappy stories they were living out of.
- 40:11SPEAKER_00: But we learned and we healed, and and now each of them actually heal is are their little healers, they're big healers, like I have 24 through 35 right now, their ages.
- 40:23SPEAKER_00: They're healers because they and they understand how God does that and how they can help other people, and so it's you don't have to have you, you really don't have to take 30 years to get over your stuff, no matter how traumatic your childhood is.
- 40:37SPEAKER_00: You really don't need to spend the rest of your life healing.
- 40:41SPEAKER_00: You really can have the pain drained out of your memories, and it's amazing, and it and it doesn't take long, it can be moments.
- 40:50SPEAKER_00: You just need to understand the process and your part in it.
- 40:54SPEAKER_00: And so this, I'm gonna come back and we're gonna talk about this book next time.
- 40:59SPEAKER_02: I'm super excited because if you my sir, our survey, a family rights survey, has about 6,300 people and it's growing every day.
- 41:06SPEAKER_02: But we have over 10,000 affected children.
- 41:09SPEAKER_02: 10,000 affected children just on this one survey.
- 41:12SPEAKER_02: So this is a huge thing for my followers.
- 41:16SPEAKER_02: So um, where can they go to follow you and and how to purchase the book?
- 41:21SPEAKER_00: Give us all your you can find out about me on my website, julylavender.com.
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: But I don't care whether you know about me, and you can follow me on whatever.
- 41:33SPEAKER_00: But I really, really want you to get the resources for you because you know, so if you go to the the best place, the quest for wonder.
- 41:43SPEAKER_00: Remember Wonder, this supernatural realm of wonder that gives us resources we don't have by ourselves.
- 41:50SPEAKER_00: TheQuest for wonder.com.
- 41:52SPEAKER_00: And when you go there, you can buy one book you can that's cheaper than Amazon.
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: You can buy a three-book bundle, get the audiobooks for free.
- 42:00SPEAKER_00: You can get the three book, you can get a bundle with audio, you know, with study guides for a really great price.
- 42:07SPEAKER_00: And you can pre-order the book where I take on the vaccine injuries issue and the World Economic Forum garbage, and start, and you can go go up into the next part of the series if you want.
- 42:20SPEAKER_00: And there you will find Wounds to Wonder as well.
- 42:23SPEAKER_00: This is stories and steps to heal pain and trauma for kids and parents.
- 42:29SPEAKER_02: Where I is there a way for parents to purchase this to put in their school libraries?
- 42:33SPEAKER_02: Have you had people do that before?
- 42:35SPEAKER_00: You know, there is an organization called Moms for Liberty that is placing 3,000 of these books in in libraries across the country, school libraries.
- 42:44SPEAKER_00: So, yes, um, I uh local libraries are a little finicky, but in if you go into your school library and you say this, we love these books and we want to give them to you as a gift, there's every reason to think that they would be receptive in your school library.
- 43:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and just so your followers know, I've dealt with um all that in my school.
- 43:07SPEAKER_02: My children, I'm the one that took all the mask off in our school district.
- 43:10SPEAKER_02: I was doing the rallies and doing on the news before all this stuff happened with my kids.
- 43:14SPEAKER_02: So I was really involved.
- 43:15SPEAKER_02: So if parents, if you can get the book and the librarian has a problem, go and email all your school board members and tell them.
- 43:22SPEAKER_02: And then if you have another hiccup, then you can go speak during one of their meetings and say, look, these books are good.
- 43:28SPEAKER_02: And and I just push people to do that because this is a way for even like parents like me that can't give my children these books, but what if they could find them in their school library?
- 43:38SPEAKER_02: So you'd be helping out a parent as well by doing this.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and of course, the best thing is the testimony when your kids um uh read the books and and they love the books and you've had conversations with them.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: See, look, these are not like subculture Christian books, the concepts anybody can read and understand and see and think for themselves.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: They open up ideas about all kinds of things, spirituality and life and and left and right and up and down, just as concepts, not as political.
- 44:10SPEAKER_00: They're not political, they're not like Christian books, but I'm a Christian, so I write everything very carefully and thoughtfully, yeah.
- 44:19SPEAKER_00: To you know, to uh to honor your children.
- 44:22SPEAKER_00: Well, and you're still trying to let them think for themselves, so you can't shove, you know, also don't want to just like say, well, I only write for these kind of people that think right, right.
- 44:32SPEAKER_00: We live in a time where we all need to think bigger than we ever thought, and we all need to we all need to be challenged because because there's a lot of psychological warfare going on out there.
- 44:41SPEAKER_00: So if you can write a book that welcomes an audience in and says, I'm not gonna preach at you, but I am gonna expose you to some things going on that's gonna make you think.
- 44:53SPEAKER_00: And uh, and I'm not gonna back away from the idea that there really is truth and there really is good and there really is evil.
- 45:00SPEAKER_00: So I'm not just like postmodern, whatever you think is fine, you know what I mean?
- 45:04SPEAKER_00: Because ideas have consequences, right?
- 45:08SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna make the case that there are good ideas and there are bad ideas, as as an as you know, in in general.
- 45:14SPEAKER_00: But these are not political books, these are not religious books, these are, you know, but they're meaty and thoughtful, and there's they're deep, but they're super fun.
- 45:23SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
- 45:24SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'm but yeah, I would can't wait to read them.
- 45:27SPEAKER_02: Have is there any other author writing like stuff like this?
- 45:30SPEAKER_02: Or are you like number one?
- 45:32SPEAKER_00: No, there's not.
- 45:34SPEAKER_00: I didn't think so.
- 45:35SPEAKER_00: Did you get a lot of go ahead?
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 45:37SPEAKER_00: Well, I was at homeschool conferences, and there I there are some great new fiction books for kids that I'm happy to endorse that are just great, great books.
- 45:47SPEAKER_00: But no one in the whole world is telling the truth story about what we've just lived through, through symbolism and to at to help people see it clearly.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, this is that, this is that, right?
- 46:02SPEAKER_00: And so I mean, it's kind of cool to be unique.
- 46:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know, yeah.
- 46:08SPEAKER_02: Do you do you ship worldwide?
- 46:10SPEAKER_02: Because I have a lot of international people.
- 46:13SPEAKER_00: Well, I do have uh, if you were to reach out to me, I can send you um like Kindle versions.
- 46:19SPEAKER_00: But these are it, these are really, really expensive to to ship because they're very heavy books.
- 46:25SPEAKER_00: It's magazine quality paper.
- 46:27SPEAKER_00: Now, if somebody really wanted it and got together to contacted me personally, I'd figure it out a way to get you whatever you want.
- 46:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I have a lot of Canada and then Australia.
- 46:38SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I would suggest in that in that instance to uh to get in touch with me and I can get you um audiobooks and um ePub books or you know that that you can read on your reader.
- 46:53SPEAKER_00: Okay, and they're really pretty too.
- 46:55SPEAKER_00: I mean, like there's nothing.
- 46:56SPEAKER_02: Or if they're willing to pay for the shipping, would you still be able to do it if they're willing to pay the difference?
- 47:01SPEAKER_00: Yes, I would, but then we we'd probably need to have a little conversation about the actual real costs of of getting it across the border to wherever it needs to go.
- 47:10SPEAKER_00: But you know, what what don't you do for your kids?
- 47:14SPEAKER_00: And how much dumb stuff have we bought and spent tons of money on stupid toys?
- 47:18SPEAKER_00: Don't matter.
- 47:19SPEAKER_00: So I'm sure people if they people and I'll do my best to work it work around our system to get the books wherever they need to go.
- 47:28SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 47:29SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 47:30SPEAKER_02: Well, quick last well, two last questions.
- 47:32SPEAKER_02: When you um first started this before Fosse came out, you know, because it you probably did you get any backlash from people about these books, any hate or anything?
- 47:43SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm sure I have, maybe I haven't.
- 47:46SPEAKER_00: I just like me.
- 47:47SPEAKER_00: You're like, talk bad about me, I don't care.
- 47:49SPEAKER_00: I know the truth.
- 47:51SPEAKER_00: The reality is that if you oppose any systems of control and you shake up people who don't want to think about the fact that we've been wrong about a bunch of stuff, especially during 2020, um, somebody's gonna be mad at you.
- 48:08SPEAKER_00: I'm sure somebody is.
- 48:10unknown: Right.
- 48:11SPEAKER_00: I don't, you know, I'm I'm not I'm not focusing on that.
- 48:14SPEAKER_00: And and who knows, you know.
- 48:16SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 48:18SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 48:18SPEAKER_02: I was just looking to see if I had any more questions I want to ask you.
- 48:20SPEAKER_02: I pretty think much I did everything.
- 48:22SPEAKER_02: Um, what is one thing as a parent?
- 48:26SPEAKER_02: You were a parent, you're still a parent, but one thing that you regret when you were a mom, a young mom, and what's one thing that you've learned from that regret?
- 48:38SPEAKER_00: I think I regret putting pressure on uh my oldest child to be something that I wasn't.
- 48:48SPEAKER_00: That's good.
- 48:50SPEAKER_00: You know, and wanting to so much to um it's like when you try to have the perfect Christmas because yours were so traumatizing when you were yeah, yeah.
- 49:02SPEAKER_00: Then you wake up and you go, I'm pretty psycho about Christmas, you know.
- 49:06SPEAKER_02: Or are you over buy because you got nothing as a child, so then you buy way too much for your kids?
- 49:10SPEAKER_02: That's what I do.
- 49:11SPEAKER_00: So I was so in so intentional with my oldest son.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: I was constantly being this intentional person about everything.
- 49:20SPEAKER_00: He just got like over intentionaled.
- 49:23SPEAKER_00: So you know, he's the kid that will over.
- 49:25SPEAKER_00: I mean, he like will overthink and he wants to make sure he does everything.
- 49:30SPEAKER_00: First kids are like that, you know, do it all right.
- 49:32SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I really, I really made sure this kid was paying attention and and aware of all the why we were choosing what we were choosing.
- 49:41SPEAKER_00: And so he had to, you know, he really had to push back and he had to find space, and it was enormously painful for a while.
- 49:49SPEAKER_00: And I had to, I and I learned to to ask for forgiveness.
- 49:54SPEAKER_00: I learned to I learned to own that I that things I had done, even if it doesn't matter if it's well-meaning, he still still was more of a burden than he should ever have borne, you know.
- 50:06SPEAKER_00: He knew that he knew I never would have that I wasn't negligent or evil.
- 50:11SPEAKER_00: But um I had to to hurt I had to hurt, I had to wake up and hurt and realize that I'd hurt him.
- 50:21SPEAKER_00: I I don't know humble yourself.
- 50:23SPEAKER_00: I wanted to think that it was great.
- 50:25SPEAKER_00: I'm a great mom.
- 50:25SPEAKER_00: Of course I'm a great mom.
- 50:26SPEAKER_00: I'm paying attention to everything.
- 50:28SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm I you know I'm on the front lines, you know.
- 50:30SPEAKER_00: But I had to feel the pain of knowing that that I had burdened him in a way that really affected him and affected his psyche and the pressure he put himself under.
- 50:42SPEAKER_00: And I had to go to him and tell him, I'm sorry, please forgive me.
- 50:46SPEAKER_00: And by the way, I need to communicate to you, you're not emotionally responsible for me.
- 50:53SPEAKER_00: And I you're off the job, you're off the gig.
- 50:56SPEAKER_00: You do not have to take care of me, you don't have to save the world, and you and you are free now from the burden of whatever you you felt you needed to carry because of the way I I parented.
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: That was really, really hard.
- 51:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he he put and he had to push back hard, you know, um to find his his space.
- 51:22SPEAKER_00: And now we're very we're actually really close now.
- 51:25SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
- 51:26SPEAKER_00: But he's but he taught me, he's the one who taught me the hard lesson about how to stop parenting and how to and how to get out of the way and let him breathe.
- 51:40SPEAKER_00: You know, and I and there was a time when I didn't know whether he would then throw everything under the bus that I worked so hard to teach him.
- 51:47SPEAKER_00: And my husband and I worked so hard to that's what this book was about, actually.
- 51:51SPEAKER_00: Um, Mrs.
- 51:52SPEAKER_00: Amazing in the Sea was about that experience with my oldest son.
- 51:57SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
- 51:59SPEAKER_00: Um, as a as a kid who who's all of a sudden questioning everything you ever taught and doesn't want it and doesn't think they want it and wants you to go away and leave them alone and you're so weird and all that stuff, you know.
- 52:11SPEAKER_00: Um, and maybe you're wrong, mom, maybe you're wrong about all those things.
- 52:15SPEAKER_00: Painful, painful, painful.
- 52:17SPEAKER_00: But you know, um uh it by the grace of God, right?
- 52:22SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
- 52:23SPEAKER_02: And it's taking the pain everything from good to takes it from bad to good.
- 52:28SPEAKER_00: You always will.
- 52:29SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so and it taught me, it taught me a lot, and now I consider him a very good friend because he's he's willing to be honest with me.
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: And that's willing to be the most important thing a child, a parent can teach a child, one of the most important things a lot, but yeah, how to be honest and be true to yourself and have the space to tell your parents because you know that's huge when a parent gives that child the space to tell their heart.
- 52:52SPEAKER_02: Um, because that that will make their relationship even closer.
- 52:55SPEAKER_00: They don't want to hurt us, you know, even if they're mad and angry at us and we m messed up in some way.
- 53:01SPEAKER_00: I don't think kids really get up in the morning to try to hurt their parents back, you know, generally speaking.
- 53:06SPEAKER_00: So so yeah, learned a lot.
- 53:08SPEAKER_02: If this is your house, start with a story your child is telling about themselves, then go to thequestforwonder.com.
- 53:16SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Julie.
- 53:17SPEAKER_02: I've really, really enjoyed this.
- 53:18SPEAKER_02: You brought tears to my eyes on this um episode.
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: Never thought that would happen.
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: And I I think the tears came from hope for our children that have been in so much pain that now they have something to hold on to and read.
- 53:30SPEAKER_02: And that's huge.
- 53:32SPEAKER_02: So that's where my tears came from was just like hopeful that all these painful children that have gone through COVID or anything will have a place to understand what's going on.
- 53:41SPEAKER_02: So that was my tears.
- 53:43SPEAKER_02: Uh, I thank you for taking your pain with your family and turning it to good and also not just turning it to good, you're helping others, you're helping children.
- 53:52SPEAKER_02: And so people run.
- 53:53SPEAKER_02: This is a wonderful Christmas gift for your children, grandparents, for your grandkids.
- 53:59SPEAKER_02: I really recommend this.
- 54:01SPEAKER_02: And we will be back, and she'll go more into detail about the book she said about healing from trauma, right?
- 54:08SPEAKER_02: So make sure I say that.
- 54:09SPEAKER_00: Whoa's to wonder.
- 54:10SPEAKER_00: I want to talk to you all about that.
- 54:12SPEAKER_00: I think your audience will love that.
- 54:13SPEAKER_00: I do too.
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: So, all right, so then tune in next time.
- 54:16SPEAKER_02: I'm Meg, and this is Stand with Meg.
- 54:18SPEAKER_02: All right, bye-bye.