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Mark Belling Podcast #127: The real threat to democracy is leftist rage: They hate Trump and want to kill him and his supporters as the UFC plot proves. Brave new world: Space X valuation is now HIGHER than Amazon. And, is Trump's rush to end the war as bad as Obama's Iran appeasement? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: One of the points that I've made is whenever leftists
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  Speaker 2: accuse conservatives of something, that thing that they're accusing them
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  Speaker 2: of is actually the thing they are doing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: their big thing for a couple of years is threat
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  Speaker 2: to democracy, threat to democracy, threat to democracy. Yet they
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  Speaker 2: are the ones that are threatening democracy in particular. I
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  Speaker 2: think if you add up all of the problems, all
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  Speaker 2: of the crises that are affecting the United States right now,
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  Speaker 2: this one is number one. The level of leftist hate
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  Speaker 2: and rage has now gotten to the point in which
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  Speaker 2: we are very very close to violent insurrection, mass killing,
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  Speaker 2: wiping out of people that I know that sounds like hyperbole,
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  Speaker 2: but have you followed what this UFC plot was? They
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  Speaker 2: were going to use drones to kill everybody there, drones
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  Speaker 2: that would attack the White House and slaughter all of
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  Speaker 2: the people attending the UFC event. Did you see how
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  Speaker 2: many people were involved in this? Where did this come from? Now?
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to pretend that assassinations are new in
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  Speaker 2: American history. They've been going on as long as we've
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  Speaker 2: had a country. They seem to come in spurts. The
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  Speaker 2: nineteen sixties were really bad. But what we see right
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  Speaker 2: now is that you don't just have random lunatics, but
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  Speaker 2: rather larger groups of people that have become so radicalized,
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  Speaker 2: so monstrous that they believe that they are doing good
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  Speaker 2: by slaughtering. I think we need to look at a
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  Speaker 2: where this is coming from and be what the threat
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  Speaker 2: FBI disrupts alleged explosive drone plot targeting white house UFC
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  Speaker 2: event Signal chats. Signal is one of those apps that
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  Speaker 2: people use to kind of text one another signal chats
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  Speaker 2: allegedly revealed twenty three people discussing pre operational activity. What's
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  Speaker 2: striking about this is they don't appear to be Muslim terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: We faced that problem now for several decades. We obviously
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  Speaker 2: had the attack that took out the twin towers in
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  Speaker 2: New York and did damage to the Pentagon, and the
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  Speaker 2: fourth one, the one that was crashed in the field
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  Speaker 2: that was trying to hit the Capitol. That problem, that
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  Speaker 2: threat has been around for a while. These are regular
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  Speaker 2: old arcans and when you see this story, twenty three
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  Speaker 2: of them discussing it, this isn't one wing nut. We
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  Speaker 2: can go back, perhaps and say the closest thing that
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  Speaker 2: we had to this is whatever happened with JFK. Some
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  Speaker 2: believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Others believe that there
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  Speaker 2: were a whole lot of people, including the mob, that
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  Speaker 2: were involved in it. We've still never solved that. But
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  Speaker 2: even that was a one off. There weren't numerous other
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  Speaker 2: attempts to kill Kennedy. Who knows, maybe there would have
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  Speaker 2: been had he lived. But here we are now. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just this constant attempt to kill Trump. It's the
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  Speaker 2: willingness of large masses of groups of people to kill
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  Speaker 2: anybody who might have some association with Trump going so far.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of people who follow
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  Speaker 2: UFC who probably aren't political at all. They were willing
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  Speaker 2: to kill all of them. Because the plot was foiled.
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  Speaker 2: We tend to look the other way at it, but
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  Speaker 2: it was foiled only because in this instance there were
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  Speaker 2: so many people in Bob and some of the messages
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  Speaker 2: were intercepted. Thankfully, our FBI and Secret Service are much
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  Speaker 2: better than they were only a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 2: and they got to this by the way. They've got
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  Speaker 2: I've got a mugshot photo of one of the guy,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that's the closest thing to the ringleader. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the problem with mugshots is since you know that that's
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  Speaker 2: the person that they've arrested, they always look guilty because
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  Speaker 2: most people were arrested are guilty, So you always look
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  Speaker 2: he looks exactly like I would what I would have
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  Speaker 2: And you know, years ago he would have looked like
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  Speaker 2: something else. You'd be thinking that he'd be somebody who
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  Speaker 2: was Muslim and who had radical eyes and so on. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: now it's this, this dork dufous white guy profile. This
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  Speaker 2: sense of alienation. If you think of the term of
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  Speaker 2: alienating young male, you can always visualize what they look like.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy has it all. He's nineteen and
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  Speaker 2: he's already almost bald. And I'm not talking shaved head bald.
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  Speaker 2: He just has already lost his hair, and of course
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  Speaker 2: he's got the stupid beard. And then he's got the
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  Speaker 2: look in his face of he looks like one of
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  Speaker 2: these guys that would plot to commit mass murder. And
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  Speaker 2: then the moment he got arrested, start crying for mommy.
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  Speaker 2: Putting on the Fox News report, five people were in custody.
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  Speaker 2: Investigators identified twenty three people as part of a potential
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  Speaker 2: network of plotters. The alleged plan involved using explosive laden drones.
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  Speaker 2: This is the threat. Drones are the threat to everything.
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  Speaker 2: The military is using drones. Terrorists are using drones. You
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  Speaker 2: can ban drones as much as you want, but we
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  Speaker 2: still don't have very good technology to knock a drone
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  Speaker 2: out from entering airspace that it's not supposed to enter.
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  Speaker 2: So they're gonna put a bunch of explosive on the
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  Speaker 2: drones and drop them on this massive crowd on Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night to hit buildings near the event, forcing a mass
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  Speaker 2: evacuation and steer crowds toward a pre stage sniper team. So,
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  Speaker 2: now this is somewhat well thought out. Blow off these
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  Speaker 2: buildings on the exterior, and then everybody starts charging out,
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  Speaker 2: and they have an evacuation right because they're planned for this,
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  Speaker 2: and this is where they've begun down. Fortunately, they all
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  Speaker 2: look to me like idiots. But that's the thing. It's
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  Speaker 2: real easy for even an idiot to kill someone in
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  Speaker 2: this society that we live in. According to a criminal complaint,
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  Speaker 2: the guy, by the way that's seemingly the ringleader in
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  Speaker 2: this his name is Tyson Proper. According to a criminal complaint,
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  Speaker 2: Proper allegedly spend three thousand dollars of his graduation money
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  Speaker 2: to purchase lots of ammunition, guns, extra magazine, and other
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  Speaker 2: items for the alleged attack. Authorities estimated that several boxes
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  Speaker 2: of ammunition that Proper had allegedly acquired contained thousands of rounds.
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  Speaker 2: It is also alleged that Proper acquired an AR style rifle,
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  Speaker 2: a bullpop rifle painted with the American flag, and two
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  Speaker 2: play carriers with AR style magazines. His family voluntarily turned
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  Speaker 2: over the equipment to law enforcement, and it goes on,
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  Speaker 2: where is this coming from. Clearly it's all part of
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  Speaker 2: this anti Trump hatred, and I don't think you can
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  Speaker 2: deal with this story without dealing with that. The reality is,
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  Speaker 2: as we're seeing clearly in his second term, that Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump is a moderate to conservative president. His whole approach
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  Speaker 2: to the Iraq War has dissatisfied people on the warmonger
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  Speaker 2: side and on the peaceniks side. He clearly isn't a
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  Speaker 2: Bush Cheney type who wanted to go into Iran have
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  Speaker 2: a ground invasion on top of the government. But he's
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  Speaker 2: also not somebody who is going to be isolationist and
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  Speaker 2: allow the Iran threat to grow worse without us doing
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  Speaker 2: something about it. His trade policy, his trade policy is
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  Speaker 2: not overtly conservative. For most of my life, conservative economic
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  Speaker 2: policy was for free trade, no restrictions whatsoever, and it
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  Speaker 2: was the lefties that want to protectionism in tariffs. On
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  Speaker 2: issues pertaining to DEI gender ideology, it seems to me
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  Speaker 2: that he's focused primarily on the common sense American values
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  Speaker 2: of the middle class. And again, the middle class was
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  Speaker 2: always the group that it was the leftist that focused
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  Speaker 2: on if you go back and take a look when
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  Speaker 2: Trump leaves office in a couple of years, I think
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  Speaker 2: that you will find that his presidency was one that
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  Speaker 2: came pretty much from the center to center right. There
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  Speaker 2: are some issues in which he's clearly conservative, even the
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  Speaker 2: issue he's so strongly identified with the border. Until about
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  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, enforcement of the border was a bigger
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  Speaker 2: Democratic issue. The rhetoric of Bill Clinton on the border
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  Speaker 2: was off the charts because that was the time in
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  Speaker 2: which the Democrats wanted to protect American low income jobs
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  Speaker 2: and foreigners that were going to come in and undercut them.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that would provoke this kind of hatred
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  Speaker 2: from the left to Trump is his tone and his style.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is the rare conservative who dishes it out harder
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  Speaker 2: than they can hit him. And I think that this
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  Speaker 2: has just triggered a left that has become godless, amoral
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  Speaker 2: and wigged out. Now I think some on the left,
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  Speaker 2: the politicians in particular, they're faking all of this. They
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  Speaker 2: rage against Trump for political purposes, But these messages are
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  Speaker 2: being heard by millions of people who buy into it.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about America is, you know, they go onto
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  Speaker 2: the whole No King's sing and all of that. The
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  Speaker 2: thing about America is nobody lasts very long. We have
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  Speaker 2: elections every four years, The Congress is every two years,
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  Speaker 2: the Senate is every sixth the President is every four
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  Speaker 2: and with the history of the country, control of the
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  Speaker 2: country has gone back and forth. It's what it does.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how much you despise Trump, He's not a
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  Speaker 2: long term threat to anything, just as he is undone
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  Speaker 2: a lot of what Biden did. If some lefty gets
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  Speaker 2: in there next, they can undo everything that Trump did.
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  Speaker 2: So why this rage, why this fear, Why this hatred
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  Speaker 2: they are praying? I think upon a large subset of
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  Speaker 2: people that are unhappy contributors to this, sadly some on
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  Speaker 2: what is increasingly the crackpot right. I'm not referring to
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  Speaker 2: the right. I'm referring to a subset of the right
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  Speaker 2: that may not even be right anymore, that seems to
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  Speaker 2: have gone into either crackpotism or very very cynically pushing
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  Speaker 2: issues just to get attention. I'll use as an example
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  Speaker 2: of this, Candice Ooids. The Charlie Kirk murder is an
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  Speaker 2: exact example of what I'm talking about with regard to
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  Speaker 2: this hatred on the left. Rather than focus on the
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  Speaker 2: guy that overwhelmingly likely is the guy that did it,
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  Speaker 2: the guy with the furry boyfriend who took the shot
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  Speaker 2: and then whose ammunition was found. You've got people like Candae,
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  Speaker 2: Someone's out there running around claiming that this is some
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  Speaker 2: sort of plot that Charlie Kirk's widow was involved in.
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  Speaker 2: Not only is that despicable, it distracts our attention from
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we have this huge segment of people
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  Speaker 2: that are so filled with hatred that they think the
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  Speaker 2: noble thing to do is to start slaughtering any of
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  Speaker 2: us on the right. Many of them are people who
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  Speaker 2: I think are just chronically unhappy and then fall war
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  Speaker 2: gender change or thinks that the most alternative lifestyle is
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  Speaker 2: going to make them happier, and it doesn't. They just
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  Speaker 2: become even more miserable. So now they blame it on Well,
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  Speaker 2: these people are biggoting against me. They're the ones responsible
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  Speaker 2: and this fuels their hate. But it's not like looneyism
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  Speaker 2: is a brand new thing in this country. We've had
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  Speaker 2: extremists as long as there's been a nation. Extremists on
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  Speaker 2: the left, extremists on the right. We had a country
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  Speaker 2: filled with communists after World War Two. Whether you agree
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  Speaker 2: with the soul called witch hunts that went on or not,
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  Speaker 2: there were active open communists, we had the Klan Kukok's
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  Speaker 2: head was pretty powerful, pretty large, But neither of those
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  Speaker 2: groups was setting out to slaughter the leaders of the
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  Speaker 2: country and their supporters. This is a new and very
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  Speaker 2: dangerous thing. I'm not going to connect these two because
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  Speaker 2: it's not the exact same thing. But I want to
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  Speaker 2: get into this whole Trump derangement syndrome that I think
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  Speaker 2: is at the core of this larger problem that I
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  Speaker 2: just mentioned right now, of the desire for mass murder. JD.
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  Speaker 2: Vance went on the view I'm doing this podcast on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: He went on the view I think it was Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest question I've gotten is why did he do this? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I have some theories on that. First of all, we
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  Speaker 2: all know that JD. Vans intends to run for president
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  Speaker 2: in twenty eight. He's also better than just about any
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  Speaker 2: Republican I've ever seen at handling this incoming. When he
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  Speaker 2: goes on those Sunday morning shows, no matter who it is,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't get all hot under the collar like Trump.
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  Speaker 2: He just stays calm. He never takes their bait, he
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  Speaker 2: disarms them. I think he went in there knowing that
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  Speaker 2: they weren't going to be able to lay a glove
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  Speaker 2: on him. Now he knew this, they'd be doing nothing
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  Speaker 2: but throwing punches. But face it with the exception maybe
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  Speaker 2: of the one woman who's afraid to speak out much.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking four really stupid people that are on that panel.
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  Speaker 2: And JD Vans, no matter what you think of him
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  Speaker 2: as a very very smart guy, say figure, what can
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  Speaker 2: they do to me? And indeed they didn't do much
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  Speaker 2: of anything to him. It got so bad that you
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  Speaker 2: never know which one of the view is going to
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  Speaker 2: be the most deranged. Apparently it was Anna Navarro who
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  Speaker 2: got the most unhinged. Here what people Goldberg needed to
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  Speaker 2: go to?
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  Speaker 1: What be?
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  Speaker 2: Goldberg passes off as the host of the show, Remember
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  Speaker 2: what it was Barbara Walters? The view was terrible then,
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  Speaker 2: little did we know that those were the glory days
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  Speaker 2: of the view. So who he's trying to go to
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  Speaker 2: a break? It's still a network TV show. They got
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  Speaker 2: to take commercials and Navarro won't shut up, and she's
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  Speaker 2: just abusic. Vance tries to say something and she's ratting
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  Speaker 2: and raving and screaming at him, and what be Goldberg
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  Speaker 2: tells it to shut up? Said stop? So you got
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  Speaker 2: them barking at each other. So unhinged were they? I
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  Speaker 2: think the reason Vans did it is so he can
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  Speaker 2: demonstrate to people on the right, I can take on anything.
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  Speaker 2: Did it serve any purpose him going on there? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: He isn't going to sway anybody around to his side.
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  Speaker 2: He's not going to impress anybody on the left the
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  Speaker 2: fact that he showed up and he did it. And
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  Speaker 2: in terms of demonstrating how unhinged those those looney women are.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody already who thinks that their looney already knew that.
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  Speaker 2: So no, not much was accomplished. But he and Rubio
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  Speaker 2: are the two conservatives who I think are better than
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  Speaker 2: almost anybody at being able to You saw Rubio when
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  Speaker 2: he testified before the Congress a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: in which it just became this complete lunatic showing which
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  Speaker 2: they're screaming and yelling at him and asking idiotic questions,
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  Speaker 2: and he just called it out for that. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why he think. I think he did it. Nonetheless, consider
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  Speaker 2: the tone of that. He's the vice president of the
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  Speaker 2: United States. This is a network television talk show. That's
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  Speaker 2: how he's traded. Now. There aren't any equivalent situations because
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  Speaker 2: lefties never go on programs hosted by the right. In fact,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Bill Maher, who's somewhere between left and center, is always
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  Speaker 2: complaining on his shows. I can't get any leftist leaders
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  Speaker 2: to come on the show. But the conservatives, they all
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  Speaker 2: show up. They're willing to talk to you. They're willing
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  Speaker 2: to talk to people who disagree. But I can't get
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  Speaker 2: any leftist to come on because they know that Bill
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  Speaker 2: Maher would challenge them, and they can't handle any type
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  Speaker 2: of challenging I think because there's no ideology underneath their
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: talking points. Nonetheless, you can't imagine that. Go back to
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  Speaker 2: when Biden was president. Imagine Kamala Harrison. You can't imagine
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  Speaker 2: it because she never would have done it, would have
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  Speaker 2: gone on Hannity. Hannity would not have abused her, And
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: again you can't imagine she would have done it. She
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  Speaker 2: couldn't even handle Brett Behar, who's about as neutral as
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you get, during when he did that interview when she
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: was running for president. The treatment that fans got on
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the view is just part of this larger thing that
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned about how unhinged and wacko the left has gotten.
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  Speaker 2: My next component of this, and again I'm not equating
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  Speaker 2: the women on the view directly with the people who
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  Speaker 2: tried to slaughter the people at the UFC, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not equating this case with that, but they're all part
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  Speaker 2: of the same thing of anything that Trump touches so
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  Speaker 2: triggers people that they become deranged. Hannah Dugan once again
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  Speaker 2: went into court this week asking the federal judge who
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  Speaker 2: presided over the trial over which she was convicted of
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  Speaker 2: felonies for obstructing the Ice agents who were trying to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: serve a warrant against someone who was in her courtroom.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Remember she was convicted of that at trial. She's filed
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: a motion for the second motion for the judge to
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  Speaker 2: overturn the verdict. Her lawyers said they felt that a
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  Speaker 2: ruling in another case would open the door for lenn
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  Speaker 2: Aiedelman to throw out the conviction. Lean Aidelman is one
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  Speaker 2: of the most liberal federal judges in America and has
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  Speaker 2: been for some time. The fact that Aidelman agreed to
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  Speaker 2: hear this motion, I mean, anybody convicted of anything they
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: always filed these motions before you even get to appeal,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: ask the trial judge to throw it out, and then
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: when he uses to do it and ask him to
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  Speaker 2: reconsider it. Said all the time it never works, but
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: they were thinking maybe this time it would. Also because
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Aidelman is so leftist, and the fact that he agreed
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  Speaker 2: to hear this. He said, I will consider the motion,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He took arguments, waited a week, and came back, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: then he rejected it. I've made this comment a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times in the past, but I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just shocked that Lenn Aidelman has been this fear
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  Speaker 2: in handling the case. I thought he'd just dismiss the
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  Speaker 2: charges outright. I thought he'd interfere with the child by
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  Speaker 2: not allowing the FEDS to present any of their evidence
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  Speaker 2: against Hannah Dugan. He handled the thing very, very fairly,
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  Speaker 2: which surprises me but also tells you that even from
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  Speaker 2: the perspective of Adelman, Hannah Dugan is guilty as sin.
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  Speaker 2: You had a police agency with a warrant and she
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  Speaker 2: obstructed them. She lied about where the guy is and
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: then took actions to help him escape. A judge can't
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: help accuse criminals from escaping. But she did that. Hannah
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Dugan's been around forever and she wasn't even the most
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: liberal judge in Milwaukee County. Why would she do this?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: First of all, Ice has been running all over the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: country and everyone knows that their highest priority was to
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: get people who were committing separate crimes and initiative. The
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: fact that they were here illegally, the fact that Dugan's
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: obstruction didn't even work that caught him anyway, Why would
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: she be Why would a judge commit felities just to
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: stop Ice from grabbing somebody in the courthouse. First of all,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: we do know Ice has been grabbing tens of thousands
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of people. We've been deporting a lot of people. And
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: what is it about this particular crook in her courtroom
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that would lead her to do something that is going
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: to cost her her judgeship and may put her in prison.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: How could you lose such perspective? And again, people are
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: just triggered by Trump to the point that they're losing
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: their marbles. My next story for you, this is one
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: in which we knew this was coming, and it's almost
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: impossible to properly assess it. Now. I want to stress
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: when I'm doing this podcast because it's going to affect
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the content here. This podcast is being recorded early in
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the afternoon on Wednesday. The price by the time you
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: listen to this, Lord only knows what the price of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: spacextock is going to be. It's been very vallado. After
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the IPO came out, it not only went up, it
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: went up significantly. The thought that I had would be
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: that by the end of day one it would pull
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: back dramatically, that the people who got in early on
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: SpaceX before it went public would lock in their profit
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: by simply selling. You know, if you bought into SpaceX
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: for X number of dollars and then the IPO was
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: valued maybe ten fifteen times higher than that, just sell
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: cash out, get the sure thing now here on Wednesday.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: As of the time I'm doing this, the SpaceX stock's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: been wobbling today. It's back a little bit, but still
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: way ahead of the offering price. By the time you
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: hear this, it could be way higher or way lower.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. Nonetheless, as of this morning, SpaceX's
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: valuation was higher than Amazon. This is either totally insane
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: or an underestimation of how Musk is radically transforming the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: world think of Amazon. I mean who Amazon is everywhere.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody's buying all their stuff from Amazon. Amazon's clo. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: think they might have the third highest cloud storage capacity.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: They're aggressively embracing AI. They've got one of the major
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: streaming services. They're involved in everything. They're going to be
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the dominant world retailer. The whole world's running through Amazon.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: SpaceX isn't making any money. Its businesses are in a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: very infant stage. The rockets. His AI is probably in
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: third place. XAI, which is Musks, which is in SpaceX.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Xai is part of SpaceX. It's probably in third place
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: behind Anthropic and open AI. And their product is chat GPT.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: And then the third thing that he has, Starlink, is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: brilliant and it may be transformative, but the number of
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: users there is still way lower than a lot of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: people who just still have this regular old broadband from Spectr,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Mariet and t or whoever it is that has it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Its losses are huge. It's the fourth largest company in
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the world. I have no clue if this is right.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I indirectly have SpaceX in that I own sure is
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: in a mutual fund that has thirty percent of its
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: entire mutual fund is in SpaceX, but I haven't bought
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: it individually because I expected the stock at some point
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to crash with profit taking and that would be the
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: time to buy it. I thought maybe it would go
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to seventy five, and maybe it still will. When IPOs
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: come out, they often go way up initially, and then
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: for six months they go straight into the toilet as
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: people cash out their profits, and then the real valuation
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: comes in when people buy it. But I don't know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It seems to me that the value is in all
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: of the companies that are out there that are going
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to be doing business with SpaceX, who are now going
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: to have massive markets for their products, and I've been
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out who all of them are. Nonetheless,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: SpaceX is now the fourth and again it may be
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: going back and forth, you know, when the stocks go
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: up and down. Amazon may pass it. But when you
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: consider all of the massive, huge companies in the world
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: whose valuation is lower than SpaceX, it's something to marvel about.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I've got this stat here, the valuation of these four
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: companies five Nvidia, Alphabet which is Google, Apple, Microsoft, and SpaceX.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Those five companies, if you add up all of the valuation,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and the valuation is the number of shares you have
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: times the share price. It equals two thirds of the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: United States of America's GDP. I have no clue as
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to whether or not these companies are overvalued. The stock
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: market itself is on a roar. By the way, whenever
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: anybody tells you something's going to happen, when it's almost
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: a unanimous position. Remember when the Iran War started, first
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: few days stocks sold off. We have the stock market
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: since those first few days has gone straight up the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: entire duration of the Iran war. And then well, you know,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: when energy prices go up, it's always bad for the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: stock market. And you know, I'll admit he pretty much
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: always has been bad for the stock market. But when
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: everybody starts telling you that, invariably they turn out to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: be wrong. And I am not predicting what's going to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: happen to the stock market for the rest of the year.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I don't ask me. I don't know. There are some
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: things that I know. I know quite a few things,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and I'll be adamant about it, But I also know
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: what I don't know. I often don't know something that
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I think I do know, Like an over the high
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: opinion of the same of the horse that I picked
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to win both the Kentucky Derby and Belmont's Takes and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: didn't come close in either. I thought I knew that,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: But when I know that, I don't know something. This
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: is one of them. I don't know if the stock
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: market seems to be just so dramatically overdue for a
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: significant pullback, But in the meantime, how can you not
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: be involved in the stock marker when it goes nothing
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: but go up. I want to talk about the back
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: and forth here. The criticism of Trump on the war
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: deal seems to be coming almost entirely now from the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: people who wanted more of a war. So much of
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the initial criticism of Trump is, you shouldn't have done it,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have done it, shouldn't have done it. Now
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the heaviest criticism seems to be from people who said
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: that we didn't do anywhere near enough, that there should
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have been a significant invasion, that we should not have
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: settled with anything other than complete destruction of Iran and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: collapse of their lunatic government. So let's talk about that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: momentarily on the Mark Belling podcast. This is a quote
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: from CNN, and again, because it's CNN, you can't fully
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: trust it, And anything that's coming from White House sources
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: you can't trust either, because clearly the White House is
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: in When I say the White House, I should say
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the administration. It's in conflict over this. We all know
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: that there were hardliners and soft liners with regard to Iran,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and Trump turned over the final negotiations to the soft liners. JD.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Vance didn't want the war in the first place. Jared
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Kushner and Steve Whitkoff are the pragmatists. The hardliners of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the administration hag Sets and Rubio, they were nowhere near
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: these negotiations in the end. I want to quote though
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: from CNN, quote we want to get this over with.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: That's how Trump officials overcame skepticism of Iran to reach
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: an agreement. Quote we ended. These are a sources. We
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: ended the war because Donald Trump wanted to win the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: war and felt like he had enough to end the war.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Obviously he gives deference to Vance and Whitcoff and Kushner.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: White House Chief of Staff Susie Wilds wanted to wrap
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: this up for a long time. So here's the question.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Is Trump airing by having inflicted so much damage and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Iran and not pressing the advantage to force them to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: capitulate on worse terms for them. I'm going to use
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: as an example here World War two. After the war
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: in Europe was concluded and Germany was toppled, the war
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: in the Pacific was still on. I believe April was veed,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: but the war continued for a couple of months in
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the Pacific. The United States never invaded Japan. The entire
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: fighting in the Pacific was in all of these islands
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: that surrounded the nation of Japan. There wasn't an active
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: ground war in Japan, and while Japan was clearly losing,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: they were still fighting. Truman made the decision not to
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: have a ground war invasion of Japan because, frankly, the
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: casualty count I think would have been quadrupled in World
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: War two. It would have been a bloodbath. Hundreds of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: thousands of Japanese would have been killed and masses of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: America troops would have been killed had we actually invaded
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Japan and tried to get into Tokyo and take the capital.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: He instead made the decision to drop the two nuclear bombs,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: hoping to end the war and end the bloodshed, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: that worked. The term nuclear option came from that. Truman
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: used the nuclear option, well, nuclear weapons. Obviously, we're not
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: gonna nuke Iran given what nuclear weapons can do. The
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: nuclear option, though, in this case, would be to have
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a ground war that would bring down that I have
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: continued to argue that it is not our job to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: bring down the Iranian regime. It is our job to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: end the threat that Iran poses to the United States
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: and our allies and global safety. That it's up to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the Iranians or others in the Middle East to bring
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: down that government. I had the same thoughts with regard
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: to Bosnia, that it wasn't our responsibility to decide whether
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: or not Muslims or Christians or who running what parts
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: of what was carved up in Yugoslavia. We still don't
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: on the terms of this deal. Trump is recoiling at
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this notion that there's going to be this three hundred
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: billion dollar fund for Iran. Now I have some thoughts
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: as to what Trump is doing, and as you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I just think Trump is always eight steps ahead of
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: everybody else. I think he's dangling money out there for Iran,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: but They're only going to get it if they comply
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: with the various steps that go forward, and in the end,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: those steps are and going to include getting rid of
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: their nukes. If they do every damn thing that we
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: tell them to do, yes, there's going to be money
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: for them. I don't think it's going to be American money. Now,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: somebody was saying, it doesn't matter whose money it is.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: If Iran gets the money, then they're going to be
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: able to rebuild their government. They're gonna be able to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: rebuild this, that and the other thing. But Trump's a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: deal maker, He's always been a deal maker. But he
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: wanted a deal from a position of strength, and he
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: figured killing off their entire army, blowing up all their
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: planes and their bombs and their tanks and everything else,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: weakened them to the point that he was able to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: be at this stage of leverage. Is this the same
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: appeasement as Obama? Well, if you think it's an appeasement,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I mean I get that position that maybe the war
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: should have gone on longer. The Tucker Carlson left the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: position of we shouldn't have done this at all. Israel
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: only wants to do it. Well, that side obviously is
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: negated because we did go into it. Since we did
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: go into it, did we do enough? Should we have
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: been willing to take on the pain necessary of slaughtering
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the Iranians once and for all? I think this can
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: only be judged by how things work out in the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: long term. But where I think that the comparison with
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Obama is false is Obama didn't get anything for the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: money he gave them. He got Iran to sign a
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: piece of paper that we aren't going to go after nukes,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: but he didn't bomba, he didn't attack him. Iran wasn't
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: weakened at all. Instead, he said, over all of that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: cash and we got nothing. Obviously, the elimination of the
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Iranian military, the sanctions that stopped him from selling oil,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: has drastically weakened it. Over the long term, will it
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: be a great deal or not is going to be
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: is going to depend on the long term itself. Also,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: I do believe this Again, Trump takes the long view,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: and Trump does have to worry about reelection. He does
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: have to worry about the mid term somewhat, but he
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: didn't worry about reelection. I think that if four months
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: from now, Iran as renegging and components of this. Trump
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: knows damn well he can go right back and start
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: hitting them again because they don't have any air defenses.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: They don't have anything to stop us from doing it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing that he's holding over their heads.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: The next part of this is, here's my greater fear.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: What happens when you have an administration And I saw
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: this during Reagan. Reagan was a believer in having diverse
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: points of view in his presidency. Reagan, when he was elected,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: was to the right of much of the Republican Party,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: so when he put together his administration, he did include
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a fair number of moderates that were to the left
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: of a lot of his voter base, because he wanted
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: to have both components in there so he could make
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a decision. An example of moderates would be say James Baker,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and then you had hardliners like William Clark and Mace.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Alexander Haigh was a moderate Don Reagan. It's hard to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: judge what he was other than most people seem to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: think that he was just a hardline jackass. Nonetheless, what
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: happened in Reagan's administration is the two sides fought with
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: one another because they're on the inside and they both
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to get their way. Well, the thing about working
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: for somebody in government is you weren't elected to get
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: your way. You were elected to try to lobby that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: guy for your way. Reagan was elected and Trump was elected.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'm concerned, however, that some of the people that are
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: on the losing side of this ideological fight in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: White House may hack off Trump to the point that
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: we lose them. And some of them are really good people.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Micro Rubio's a wall. Rubio is nowhere around this Iran
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: thing because clearly he wants the war to continue. I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: think undeniably that And the reason that that Trump didn't
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: have Rubio to the negotiation is he wanted a deal,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: so he took in Vance, who I think never supported
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the war. So that's why Vance did it. Pete Hagsith,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I think clearly he thinks that the war should have
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: continued and we should have gotten more from Iran. But
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: if they keep bitching about this, you know how Trump is,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He'll get rid of you. And I think that so
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: much good and so much strength have come from heg
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Sith and Rubio. I hope that doesn't happen. But that
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: means the side that isn't getting their way has to
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: bite the bullet and shut the bleep up. You didn't
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: get your way. I have Hunter producing the program today.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I swear in the last since season two of the podcasts,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I've had more producers that I had in the entire
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: history of my radio show, probably if it has to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: do with I. Of course, started in May. Jason started
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: here in January, so he was due vacation, so he
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: needed to get his time off. And we've had various
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: people fill in and do this, that and the other thing,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and hundreds. Now. One of the people that in radio
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I used to get hired for one job. How many
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: jobs do you have right now here? Five? That's what
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: it is. I swear Dave Michaels has more jobs than
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: we actually have. I mean, you have to be a
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: jack of all trades to be able to survive. Fortunately,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm old enough now that I only have one job.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I just do the podcast. I don't have to do
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: anything else here. I'm not even going to volunteer to
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: do anything else here because the next thing, you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: they're going to have we try to learn how to
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: use some equipment that I don't understand, like I don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: want to hear these words omni, which is the thing
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: that we said, I don't want to know how to
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: do it, so I can just say I don't know
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: how to do it. On the other hand, in order
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to survive in radio, you have to know how to
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: do a million things, because it's just the way that
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the way that it is. Anyway, I don't remember what
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the point that I was that I was going to
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: say about that was, other than go back to my show.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Let's imagine Paul adamantly felt and I don't even know
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: what it was because he never bucked me on content,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm making up a fake example. But I know
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Paul was very stressed when we used to have to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: do the year encurrentive ends Quiz because he would have
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: to answer probably three hundred phone calls within two hours
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and take down names that it was fast rapid warp speed.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, the last few years of the show,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't take any call, so this one day made
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: up for all of that. Notes. Paul was completely supportive
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of the current of ens Squiz, but let's imagine he said,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: this is stupid. Everybody just getting the answers off the internet,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and we're not going to do it. And I'm tired
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: of it and it's too much work. And I said, Paul,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I've heard all of that, but we're gonna do it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Paul can't keep bucking against it because it's my show.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: And again I want to stress that this is a
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: fake example. I'm making it up. Same thing. Let's imagine.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: You know when John Wyatt was doing the traffic Let's
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: imagine and he demanded the Beach report be ninety seconds
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: because there's so much traffic. And he didn't do that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: He did go on too long, but he never demanded
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just coming up with these as fake examples that
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: when somebody was doing the news, they insisted that we
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: have a five minute newscast at the top of the hour,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: and I didn't want to have that length. Whatever it is.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: At some point, you can't keep bucking up against the
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: person who's in charge. You argue to point you didn't
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: get it. Now you shut the bleep up. And I
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: hope they do that because some of these people who
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: haven't shut up. We all know that Trump is willing
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: to roll aheads, but the strength of the administration in
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: this second term is he has gone outside the box
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and chosen some people that aren't necessarily aligned with where
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: he was on a lot of issues, but are themselves
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: very strong, which built is very very good coalition. So
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I hope that this doesn't end up with some booty
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: good heads rolling now. This story is this another Maxwell,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Maxwell Anderson and the monster who it's hard to even
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: describe what it was. I mean, woo to a woman
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: because he set out with this goal of shopping up
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: her body parts and throwing them all over southeast in Wisconsin.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: This story is in the news this week. There are
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: different news organizations that have reported on this. My source
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: material comes from Fox six and I haven't asked law enforcement.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I don't have any information beyond what's reported in the media.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: There's a man from Franklin who's accused of an abduction
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in Washington County of a woman that it sounds like
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: he had a date with, but had the date with
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: her because he intended to go nuts on her. I'm
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: just going to quote from the story. Franklin man is
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: accused of kidnapping and threatening a woman during an episode
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: at the end of May. Court records show and Ji
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Liberto and I'm gonna spell that last name because I
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: don't want people to confuse it with the wrong person.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: L I. B. E. Rto twenty two. Angelo Liberto is
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: being held in the Milwaukee County Jail on two hundred
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars cash bond. He pleaded not guilty the three
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: felonies in June sixteenth. In a separate case, Washington County
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: prosecutors charged Liberto with false imprisonment. He has yet to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: appear in court on the felony charge. The backstory, According
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: to the criminal complaint, a Milwaukee Police detective responded around
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: five thirty am Saturday, May thirtieth to the area of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: northbound I forty one at mile markers seventy five for
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: a reported kidnapping. The victim told police that the defendant,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Angela Liberto, came to her house at one am. When
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: the victim asked why Liberto was there unannounced, the complaint says,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: he told her that he had a surprise for her.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: The woman told the defendant he should leave. The victim
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: told police she and the defendant planned to go to
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: a bar on the night of Friday, May twenty ninth. Now, again,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: this is early in the morning May thirtieth five am.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Five thirty am was on the police called. The report
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: was at one am. That's when he showed up, so
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: she said that they had a plan to go out
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to a bar the previous night, May twenty ninth, should
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: have just a few hours earlier. When the defendant arrived
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: to pick up the victim, the complaint says, the woman
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: reported that she observed lotion and chocolates in the back
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: seat of the vehicle. The victim then went to get
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: into the front seat, but the defendant told her there
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: was another surprise for her and to sit in the back.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: A short time after the two departed, the complaint says,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: the defendant pulled over at an unknown location. The victim
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: reported that the defendant told her that she should have
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: been scared and pulled out a gun. The complaint says.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: The defendant also demanded that the victim give him her phone.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: The court filing says eventually the victim did give the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: phone to the defendant. When she tried to open the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: door in the back seat, she was stopped by the childlocks,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: the complaint says. The criminal complaint says at some point
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: the defendant was holding a knife aggressively The victim reported
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that there were handcuffs attached to the door and the
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: defendant reached back and was threatening her with a knife
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: to put them on, which she eventually did. At one point,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the defendant got onto the freeway, and then the woman
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: kept killing the defendant that he was really scaring her,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I would guess. The court filing says. The victim attempted
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: to call nine one one, but her phone was in
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: airplane mode. After dialing multiple times, the victim was able
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to call nine one one and two other people. During
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: this time, the complaint says, the defendant said they were
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: going up north to a lake house. The victim asked
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: if that meant he was going to rape her, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the defendant said yes. At one point, the victim said,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the defendant stated, we are at the point of no return.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Shortly after eleven PM, a deputy spotted the defendant's vehicle
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and a traffic stop was conducted at I forty one.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: The complaint says the deputy observed in plain sight a handgun,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: pocket knife, and handcuffs. Law enforcement also searched the vehicle
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: and found several items of evidentiary value interest, including a
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: roll of duct tape, a handgun case, handcuffs, a hack saw,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and much more. Police also found multiple identifiers for the defendant.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: The officers freed the woman from the door. She later
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: told them she met the defendant in September of twenty
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: twenty five last year through a mutual friend. She indicated
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: she told him multiple times that she only wanted to
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: be friends. The complaint says, now, based on all this
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: stuff that he has, the duct tape and the hack saw,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: at all of this, I think that this had the
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: makings of being exactly what we saw in that horrible
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: case in Milwaukee last summer earlier in the year. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: don't know much about the background of the defendant here.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: How people turn out so warped. I know everybody's got
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: every sort of imaginal goofball fantasy, but this guy's wanting
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to act on it. I don't know how you get
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to that place in your mind that this is something
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: that you're so turned on by, so enthralled the doing,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: that you actually do it. Fortunately, in this case, she
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: was able to make the nine one one call. She
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: was pulled over by the deputies, and what could have
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: been something that was obviously far far worse didn't happen
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: now this story Colorado. As they're putting on CBS, you
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: could tell that CBS News is trying not to be
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: lefty anymore because they're the ones that broke this story.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: A teacher in the Denver Public Schools. First grade teacher
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: was putting on some skits involving her class as the actors,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and the skits involved kissing.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: No.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know what all the standards are, but I
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: don't think when I was in the first grade, we
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: had any skit in which you could kiss anybody. I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: went to a Catholic grade school. I don't recall being
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: in the school being allowed to kiss anybody else, much
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: less that they would be part of a thing first grade.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: But here's the kicker on this. Almost all of the
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: kids that were being told to kiss one another were
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: of the same gender. The school board in Denver has
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: fired her. Her name is Jennifer Honka, first grade teacher trying
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: to compel boys to kiss boys and girls to kiss girls.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: They found out about this because the number of the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: kids came home and told their parents, because the kids
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: were very, very uncomfortable about it. I don't know for certain,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: but my guess is is that this is another one
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: of these extreme gender activists. She wants their kids to
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: get over their phobia, any phobia or opposition or being
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: repelled by homosexuality, whatever. Now, I know that you can't
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: take one case and generalize, but I will say this.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: You go back to the case of the teacher in
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Wakeshaw who was willing to get fired rather than have
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: her class sing that stupid rainbow song. There are some
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: in education that not only are zealous with regard to gay,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: gender and all the other initials in there, that that
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: type of advocate and forcing their thought process on kids
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: is more important to them than teaching. It makes you
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: wonder if that isn't the reason they became teachers at all.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: We have I'm gonna draw a connection here. We've had
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: just so many cases lately of guys that are youth
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: sports coaches or fitness instructors and all the other sort
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: of thing, adults that work with kids, and the reason
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: that they went to work with kids is because they
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: were looking for a way to be able to sexually
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: molest the kids. In other words, they became the soccer
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: coach because they wanted to molest soccer players. I wonder
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: how many teachers are going into teaching solely for the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: purpose forcing kids to act out homosexually, force them to
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: accept their viewsion their vision of gainness, and beyond that,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: advocate to kids who are very, very mixed up that
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: they are of the other gender. This old gender thing
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: seems to me to finally be dying down, in part
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: because it's not been a magic but let most of
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: the people are changing their gender become even more miserable
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: than they were in the first place. A lot of
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: it was clearly copycatting on the part of the kids,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: but how much of it was suggestion from therapists and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: teachers and others that Hey, you're really a boy or
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you're really a girl. And it's the reason that they
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: got into the field of education, not so much that
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: they wanted to teach, as that they wanted to push
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: that stuff. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast. This
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling podcast. I'm doing this on Wednesday.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Has Summerfest started? I mean yes and no. I always
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: make fun of people who say yes and no, yes
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: and no. The last time they did that, I I
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: think it was The Stones. I think the Rolling Stones
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: performed at Summerfest the day before Summerfest opened, and I
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: think that that was when Summerfest was already in the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: three weekend format rather than the old format of running
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Thursday through Sunday with no breaks, and then they took
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: a break on a Monday and so on. But I
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: don't even know. No ten years that Summerfest is maybe
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: less Summerfest has been on this format of Thursday, Friday,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Saturday three weeks in a row. I think the Stones
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: played the main stage at Summerfest the day before the
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: rest of Summerfest opened. Somebody else might have as well.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I do know that I couldn't go to that because
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: one of my cruises overlapped that and I ended up
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: not seeing the Stones at Summerfest. Anyway, they're doing the
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: same thing this year. Garth Brooks performed This is Wednesday,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: last night and tonight, and Summerfest itself opens Thursday, and
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: they've got some of the foods, stay and so on
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: near the Amphitheater open, but the main grounds are not
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: open and Garth Brooks is performing. And the reason there's
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: two shows is obviously the Amanda see Garth Brooks is overwhelming.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: The first show was sold out. I don't know if
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: tonight's show and again I'm doing this on Wednesday, has
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: sold out. I did see a billboard saying Garth Brooks,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: but sometimes those contracts go up and it's sold out,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: or if it's not sold out, it's obviously very very close.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Garth Brooks is a hunter. Are you in the country
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: or not you are? I mean I used to be
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: more than I am right now. And when I was
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: talking about l Langley, who I think is just going
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: to be she's already a superstar. That my knock on
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: country is that so much of it is, especially among
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: the guys. They all kind of sound the same to me,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: and they're singing about the same stuff, and there's not
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of diversity in the whole thing. But Garth
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Brooks is a legend. He's never been I don't dislike
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Garth Brooks. He's never been somebody to me. He wasn't
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: rough edge enough to be like one of the outlaws.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: He wasn't in the vein of going back farther, say,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Whalen and Willie are more recently Toby Keith or who's
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: the big guy right now, who's the Martin Walllet He's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: not that, But He also wasn't like the milk toast
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: kind of whoosy. I just thought Tim McGraw just voice
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: held this too woosy. Garth was sort of in between.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Garth Brooks came around almost the exact same time as
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: George Straight and I think George Strait is spectacular, so
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I don't have any problems with Garth Brooks. He's obviously
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: extremely talented, and he mainstreamed country as much as anybody
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: since Dolly Parton was able to do so, and as
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: an incredible following. And it's pretty cool that he's playing Summerfest,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: although you can say he's not really playing Summerfest because
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: the people go to the show can't go hang at
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Summerfest before and after like they always do. Otherwise, Summerfest
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: opens every time it starts. Now, now that they're on
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: this formative, I can't believe that at Summerfest already. Well,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: it's crappy weather today, but it's been very warm the
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: last few weeks, so yeah, I think it's about time
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: for Summerfest to be here. The old days of Summerfest
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: drawing nearly a million people for the entire run are over,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: and I think that the biggest reason that it's over
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: is tastes have changed among the groups of people who
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: go to summerfestigches, primarily young people. Secondly, there just isn't
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the depth of music. Superstars that can draw in six
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: thousand people to go to the Miller Stage or six
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: thousand to go to this or the Amphitheater still can
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: draw huge crowds most of the nights of the event,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: but you know, they've had cancelations. And I know I'm old,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: so most of these groups are beyond my mainstream. But
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: there isn't like the giant baby Boomer act that fills
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: the place up and so on. But that's just because
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: there aren't a lot of those acts out there, and
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: they really really huge acts, the ones that play the
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: fifty thousand seat stadiums, they're too big for summer fits. Well,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I'm done with Bruce Springsteen. He can't play Summerfest. He's
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: on tour right now. He's doing fifty and sixty thousand
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: seed arenas. So as big as Summerfest is for those
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: really epic and that's why Garth Brooks, who is a
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: stadium act, they just broke it up into the two
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: nights to be able to do it. But I think
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Summerfest has held its own through several different executive directors.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: While many people have complained about the fact that the
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: prices have gotten high, the upside of that is is
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: that they have avoided the kinds of conflicts and you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: takeovers of young people that just go down to do
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: nothing but cause trouble because it costs too much for
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: them to get into the gate. The problems that we're
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: having here are generally of open air events that there's
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: no cost of admission, where people simply come in and
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: screw the whole thing up. So if you're going to Summerfest,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: are you going to Summerfest this year? You probably That's
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I say that every unless there's an act that I
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: already bought tickets for, which is usually there's only two stages.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: It of reserve seating. Some of the Bemo pavilion is
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: reserved in Summer Stand and the Amphithety you have to
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: buy it. I'll probably get myself down there. And then
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: when you start saying I'll probably get down there, that usually, though,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: means you're not going to get down there. It's ask
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: anybody that's in sales, are you going to buy the car?
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Probably that means no. The only answer that means yes
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: is yes. All right, that's it for today's program. Remember
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