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The Animals Voice - How Can I Make Bale's Golden Years Easier? With Matt and Bale · The Animals Voice

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[SPEAKER_03]: I get very emotional now because I feel like saying he's just some.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like he's just some because he says But he's my dad, you know, and every time I send him images of what about a park?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What about a ball?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What about a frisbee?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What about other stuff that has Other dogs interest?
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not that interested in doing that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's more into you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh All right
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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate the things from him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so touched you as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just kept babbling on and I never- No, no, no, don't be sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Noticed, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very honest, Matt, when I do this, I'm so unfiltered because animals don't come with a filter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I hope you take it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, just, you know, tell me if it's too much.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel that when
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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel that we were friends from the very beginning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like not the father's son relationship, but from the very beginning when I met you, I felt like having a best friend, and we did everything together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was one of the air quote boys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I got you through a lot of stuff, back then, because I forced you to keep focusing on me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you okay there, Matt?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle, give him a hug.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, and welcome to the Animal's Voice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Ditte Young, your host.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And today, I have Matt calling through from Denver, Colorado, with his dog, Bale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Bale is a 15-year-old dog, and Matt would like to know how he can make the golden years easier for his dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I am provided with is a headshot and a full body figure photo of the dog bail, and I am sitting in Copenhagen Denmark and I am excited about meeting Matt and Bale the dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always a privilege for me when it comes to listening to the animals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it comes to touching health concerns, it is always very important for me to let you know
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do have a luxurious gift and an ability to listen to what animals have to say about what they feel and think in that regard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sit back, relax, and I do hope that you will enjoy this episode of The Animals Voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: become for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They protect us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They change us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But one of they could also speak to us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the animals voice hosted by Ditte Young, internationally renowned animal communicator, telepath, licensed therapist, intuitive coach, and best selling author.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Each week you'll hear extraordinary stories of connection, healing, love, loss, and transformation through the eyes of the animals who share our lives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stories that challenge what we think we know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stories that open our hearts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Stories that remind us we may never have been as separate as we believed, because every animal has a voice, and every voice deserves to be heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the
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[SPEAKER_03]: So welcome Matt to the animal's voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you willing to introduce yourself a little bit or to the audience?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My name's Matt, I live in Colorado between Boulder and Denver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The dog we're going to be talking with today is Bale.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a blue healer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's 15 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had him for I got him when he was about six or seven months old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was 24 when I got him, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was my first year of law school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been with me since.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Other people involved in Bale's caregiving are my girlfriend, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle and I have been together for just over six months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And also involved as Michelle's ten-year-old daughter, Athena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right, and what would you wish to hear when you can hear his thoughts in a few minutes from now?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, if you ask me what I wish, I hope he's doing well and I hope he's psyched on life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But beyond asking or wishing for like a specific outcome, I just wanna hear how he's doing generally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As a senior pop,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever thought that telepathy was a possibility throughout those 15 years?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have I ever thought, I'm not sure if telepathy is really a word that's in my vocab, but I don't mean that in the sense of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly think we commune with animals and I actually think in a lot of ways, particularly dogs, I think it's actually pretty incredible that like, just sometimes when I look down at my dog and like, well, like this wild wolf essentially, if you, I don't know, 100,000 years ago, like is now following me around the house and it's like bonded in this way
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[SPEAKER_01]: part of the human species in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I certainly think we can commune with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly think they understand us, probably, a lot better than we even understand ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've never really used the word telepathy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm certainly, I think there's a lot of communication and...
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[SPEAKER_01]: things that the human mind can't even comprehend that goes on between dogs and humans and likely all animals and humans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love hearing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have a picture, a headshot of Bale and a picture where it's a possibility for me to see the full figure and the full body.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be irrelevant for me later and the topics I usually touch through a telepathic reading is the personality profile of the animal, the motivation, the relationship with the human beings, health concerns.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If we have any behavioral issues and I air quoted because I
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's to be able to choose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, um, there might be time enough to do so, but I know that it's primarily health concerns also due to his 15 years old.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you ready?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get started.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what I do is I close my eyes just for a second, then I tune into Bale and I will ask him like creating sentences inside of my own mind and combine them with thought and emotions and those three modalities are telepathy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm going to ask him, would you like to have a conversation with me and then I create a dialogue from whatever he sends my way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So just look at me as an interpreter between you and Bale and feel free to jump in or interrupt me if you want to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might tell you if you do so.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just a sec map, just a sec.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Something is coming in here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm downloading something differently, but you are more than welcome to jump in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The first thing that happens is ambivalent inside of Bale because on one on one hand he's in secure because I'm a stranger.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's a bit cautious when it comes to, I cannot just enter him, you know, like, A and D to, would you like to communicate because now he withdraws energy and feels like, whoa, back off a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're a bit too much here with your energy because I don't know you and on the other hand, or with the other hand, because it's ambivalent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's curious,
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he wants to be a air quote, good boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to be part of the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it says a lot about him already, if this resonates with you, Matt, because he's open-minded, yet skeptic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's willing, yet, ooh, what is this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So a great need for structure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And already tells me a lot about his personality, and I would guess him to be a playful,
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[SPEAKER_03]: and sensitive king.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I will elaborate on what I mean by that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does this already resonate with you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sounds like it's that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I ask him, what do you need Bale to better communicate with me or become less insecure when I'm a stranger?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he literally called a few dad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I want my dad to tell me telepathically, you can just create the sentence in your head, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay, because I booked her.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay, I asked you to do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And in the second, he feels that he has your acceptance is easier for him to do that because he wants to be a good boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It says a lot about, um,
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[SPEAKER_03]: his training and how well trained he trained his and how loyal he is now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But with other people, he might have been misunderstood with other people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've had him for so long.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But with his personality, he has winded up with a different family or a different insecure owner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He would have been all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And
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[SPEAKER_03]: taking the lead on stuff because he has this dominance and he has this will and strong personality.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you understand what I mean by that, Matt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I definitely do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm asking him, so we have your dad's acceptance.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Would you like to elaborate a little bit about playful, sensitive inking?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I invented these personality profiles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to talk you through all the profiles, but I will elaborate on the three he's picked out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I ask him playful just a second, because I'm waiting for a picture or a thought or an emotion coming at my way to interpret this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, I am motivated by a lot of commands and a lot of training and he keeps looking out to you like right that right is this dad now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, um, I'm not sure mad because I haven't touched behavioral issues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't discussed talking about behavioral issues, but I am a bit
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[SPEAKER_03]: It would take him a nanosecond to react if he feels insecure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I would be quite aware around bail.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What would you do, with other words, I'm not sure I would trust him 100% with in any regards, not that he's not loyal, he's the sweetest, sweetest boy, very well trained when it comes to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not sure as an example, Athena haven't gotten to that yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure that I would just tell Athena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just go to the park with him, let him lose.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Off the leash, it's going to be great.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure that I would personally do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does this make sense to you when I'm saying this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, yeah, um, not from us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always been great with other dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is sort of a known healer thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not always the best with small children because I think they can fuse them for cattle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I think dog, dog, she's always been great with, but he'll chase a squirrel, he's caught squirrels before, he shouldn't say he hates cats, but he's not safe around cats and he's been questionably safe around small children.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the images of dogs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just others being other beings in general.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't trust that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you for, um, for telling me this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I'm asking him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So play to you is primarily being loyal to your dad and what Bale, just a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to connect with my dad and be loyal and literally,
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's of service to you, Matt, not being a slave or anything, but he's very proud of being, I get very emotional now because I feel like saying, he's just some, it feels like he's just some, because he says, but he's my dad, you know, and every time I send him images of, what about a park, what about a bowl, what about a frisbee, what about other stuff that has,
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[SPEAKER_03]: other dogs interest he's not that interested in doing that he's more into you and doing with you as opposed to attacking a bowl all by himself he would rather just be loyal and and have a lot of tasks he would actually be good at when we reconsider the children things you just mentioned would be a great service dog or
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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... figuring out using his track sense as an example uh... he's been trained for a police dog or working at the airport with a great nose he has if somebody were to tell tell him the job is this and this and then he would do it does this make sense map yeah he's definitely very aren't say task oriented and very eager to please yeah yeah yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do think he certainly has also been very, like we used to go to a lot of dog parks when he was younger and he definitely also loves being off doing his own thing and is very much an alpha in those situations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the hurting dog and him loves playing around with other dogs and sort of having keeping them in line.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think he definitely is eager to please me and he's my ex girlfriend used to joke that he's like a good little soldier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he likes to patrol the yard, yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he's also had a
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here as younger, I would say more of a playfulness with other dogs that was very much separate from me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So now he mentioned sensitive and I'm asking Bale.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how are you sensitive in the world?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I would like things to be predictable in any regards in my life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It could be sounds in general.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It could be other people's movement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You have already touched this topic when it came to children.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm asking him, what is it about movements that make you insecure, Bale?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I don't know what I'm supposed to do in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, should I chase it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should I put myself in respect in that regard?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Should I wait?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's difficult for me to do nothing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So things that have helped me throughout the years have been the
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[SPEAKER_03]: sit down Bale or wait I got it in many areas of the canine world they would call it leadership and by leadership I mean leading from the heart you know not being aggressive or or to dominant when it comes to him because in the second I would
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not yelling at anybody, but if I ever yell where a yell at Bale and say stop now sit down boy, he would be crawling underneath the carpet and being extremely sensitive towards, was that that me?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't do that, you know, it's not on purpose, I did anything, so it's very, it's a fine line between
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, raising him the upbringing of Bale having to do with such a dominant and yet sensitive boy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That lines up for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the ambivalence I felt from the very beginning.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has both inside of himself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm asking him, how can we better help you in general with with sensitivity?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, oh, he's already my dad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He has already figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: that is being extremely communicative and being one step ahead of me in any situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you are already doing it, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now I feel like bursting into tears again when he sends me this emotion of being extremely thankful for you, understanding my needs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says,
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so I asked him about a king, a quote king, that's the leader, are you okay, Matt?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, no, I, woof, I, I, I appreciate the thanks from him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so touched you as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I'm sorry, I just kept babbling on and I never- No, no, no, don't be sorry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Noticed, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ask him to say about King, and that's the true leader.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are a sensitive, I'm telling Bale, you are a sensitive, and you see yourself as the King, the leader, how do you feel like being the King, and he says,
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been, I'm very honest, Matt, when I do this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so unfilled or because animals don't come with a filter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I hope you take it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, just, you know, tell me if it's too much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, it has actually been quite a task for me trying to be a air-code good boy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I have withhold a lot of energy and there have been many situations where I could have reacted
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[SPEAKER_03]: in the past and I knew I can't, I can't react and then it was difficult for me to figure out what to do about all this energy and then it felt, he makes a sound right now like a crying dog like, I don't know if you could, could hear that and that sound would be, but then about what about me, what am I supposed to do about this, you know, because it would have been
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[SPEAKER_03]: then I have to pause for a second.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that has been difficult for me because the real king I am, he says, would have reacted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you talk to me about, is this resonate or if it makes sense?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of moments with him or so clear that he,
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[SPEAKER_01]: During the best I could in terms of giving him outlets for, I think the king nature that you speak to, but it's also been so clear that he would have been such an amazing workdog that probably needed even more of that in his life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, just trying to find that balance between
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that definitely resonates with Bale.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you've done a perfect job, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I speak with so many animals all the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've done a great deal here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just you welcome and it's just honesty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I get the opportunity of asking any regards, what could we have done differently, or how do you use yourself, and et cetera?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'm asking him, do you need help with the king now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, alright.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he says, yeah, honor me because I know that I'm older.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that I don't have the same energy and he's not about to die here, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I understand why we have to touch health issue right now because he speaks to me as an old, old dog.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who are like to be respected and be communicated with and just having taking every moment in as possible now for the last
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[SPEAKER_02]: months, years, I hope, but for the last couple of months, he'll be here to be honest, so the more you communicate the better and the more you communicate the more you honor me because you understand that what I can't do, I can't
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[SPEAKER_02]: is balanced or equalized with all these information you bring into my life because that stimulation as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you understand what it means here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think what's immediately coming to mind for me is Michelle and I have been trying to figure this out for a little bit where he doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that he still really enjoys going for walks, who's not as able, so we actually recently got him like a stroller that we're gonna bring with us and a walk as far as he can, and then when he seems like he's...
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[SPEAKER_01]: beyond the point of walking and just throw them in a stroller and still let them take in the sights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to ask Bale about the stroller if you would like to talk to us about the stroller, the health issues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, or he would rather talk about you as his human beings.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, let's do the health first.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not the veterinarian.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do hope you know that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When animals show me health issues, they primarily show me what is in the now, but makes it back in the now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The first thing he shows me is it has been becoming more and more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to see through the right eye.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he, I don't know if it's caverax or if it's just blurry on his right eye, but it is difficult to observe stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, um, he has an impaired site, and he has a impaired hearing, impairness on his right ear as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: but his left side is functioning pretty well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The eyes and the ears.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you already noticed that something is deteriorated on the right side?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't noticed a specific side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say certainly on the hearing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say I've noticed anything specifically vision-wise, but certainly on the hearing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you might be able to show any if it's interest has interest to you, to test does just ask Michelle to show him an object from behind him or in the outer perimeter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you will see a delay on the right side, as opposed to the left, he would react faster on his left side.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you get proof of this, all right.
24:46
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was very first thing he says.
24:49
[SPEAKER_03]: The second thing he talks about is it's becoming more and more difficult and he's more and more tired.
24:59
[SPEAKER_03]: to bear our carry his weight on his left front shoulder because he leans his primary weight onto his left side.
25:08
[SPEAKER_03]: And he has carried his weight for many years on his left front leg and his left hind leg, which means he could look partially lame on his right hind leg.
25:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen this?
25:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I have seen his high legs in general.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say he's struggling with and he certainly seems to have, I think like I have like a front right elbow injury that's been given him some trouble for the last.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, often on for the last few years, but certainly more and more in the last six months I would say.
25:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right.
25:52
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense to me when I feel this, so it explains why he compensates and carries the entire weight on his left-front shoulder.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I ask him, what do you need?
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's difficult, Matt, because he says, you can't help me with this, because I have four legs.
26:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't, you know, I can't move the weight to a different leg, because it's a problem.
26:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling Bale what I meant was chiropractor, acupuncture, physiotherapy, osteopathy, cranial psychotherapy.
26:30
[SPEAKER_03]: I meant practitioners that would be able to help you
26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Medicine for the joints or pain killers or anything, you know, we are pretty open here if we could help you out with those fail.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He talks to me about pain medication and I don't know.
26:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I have him under suspicion of having
26:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, received pain medication at one point of his life, but he shows me he gets really sick from it, and I feel like, I get, I feel an urge to vomit right now.
27:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I get really sick.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and I don't, yeah, is easier to ask you.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he on pain meds now or not?
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's, he's been on, uh, what's it called?
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, yeah, he's been on a pain meds for, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh, uh uh uh
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I get really sick, Matt.
27:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but just to be honest, I feel like I am poor.
27:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I get nauseous right now.
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want it.
27:39
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not necessarily that I'm saying to you as the animal communicator, well, then stop giving it to him because the consequences of not giving it to him would be worse.
27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: But as you know, it could explain tyrantness, disiness,
27:59
[SPEAKER_02]: low energy, low motivation of eating from time to time because of this emotion he sends me right now.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
28:10
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so the left front shoulder I'm asking him other things besides from pain, medication, what about a practitioner and he says, I don't feel like other people should touch me.
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not like loving everybody else, you know, loving everybody to touch me in general.
28:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't bite.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not aggressive, but I want my personal space.
28:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I would rather that it's my dad or my family that touches me and not veterinarians or a chiropractor every second week, you know, it's going to cost me too much of my energy.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to know.
28:51
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
28:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling Bale, it was only to be helpful because it might have helped you and he
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: going in the in a bad circle airport in the bad circle are for the last years.
29:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So it can't just be a quick fix anymore.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not worth it.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not worth it to start.
29:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, let's do treatment now at the age of 15.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
29:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm asking him, is there anything else?
29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And he says, well, and this is again, not a diagnostic thing, but he says that the liver function is deteriorating as well.
29:38
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not an imbalance liver where we would, you know, create surgery or provide him with a new liver.
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like that, but it.
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: He has imbalances, imbalances on the liver, and when I ask him what about homeopathy, if you're open to that, he tells me that would help me.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you be open for, if you know, are you aware of homeopathy?
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know a little bit about it from like a human perspective.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fifths the same for dogs, and yeah, I know a little bit about it.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
30:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I would recommend you to check it out if they could do a test, you know, for maybe an imbalance on the liver and I am pretty sure that he would react when it came to the liver organ function.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel.
30:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say, er, quote, heavy heart.
30:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And by that, he doesn't talk about any heart murmurs, or anything, or a heart attack.
30:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He just talks about an old, weary body.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It's difficult to, you know, fill my lungs with oxygen, with oxygen.
30:53
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it takes a lot of my strength to do so, in general.
30:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's old.
31:00
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
31:07
[SPEAKER_02]: no love, respect, communication, everything you are already doing that is perfect.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and I'm asking him, so what about the stroller?
31:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that helpful?
31:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, indeed.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course it is.
31:22
[SPEAKER_03]: She says.
31:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he says, I am not interested in a long, long walk in a stroller meeting a lot of other dogs because I would rather have been the the true king owning the streets telling that this is my road, you know, uh, so it's a bit, not humiliating, but very close to what feels humiliating to me being a stroller when it comes to other dogs.
31:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Does this?
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make sense.
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would rather just head home with the stroller when you feel he's had enough.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's see idea.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool, it's great.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
32:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm asking him, how long would you be able to walk on a good day?
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:14
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so he stops after 12 minutes.
32:17
[SPEAKER_03]: And now he starts reacting with leanness in his body.
32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And now I turn the clock to 15 minutes, 20 minutes.
32:26
[SPEAKER_03]: And when I feel 20 minutes, I feel extremely exhausted right now.
32:31
[SPEAKER_03]: So anything from 12 to 15 minutes that my advice, what do you feel?
32:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That based based on when he seems to struggle, that that feels right to me.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:46
[SPEAKER_02]: 15 minutes top.
32:47
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
32:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Now.
32:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Prior to this, I recall I said something like in a couple of months and I, again, not the veterinarian, I can't be the judge of life or death, but it okay with you, Matt, that I asked him what he meant by when he said a couple of months.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
33:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
33:12
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm asking him, Bale, do you literally mean a couple of months or was it just an interpretation of I'm not going to live for five more years?
33:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not a couple of months.
33:26
[SPEAKER_03]: He says it's not two months.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think you need to prepare yourself as a family which I think you have already done Matt.
33:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate this.
33:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you are lucky if he'll be here within the next year.
33:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a different way of putting it.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
33:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Could be realistic.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think I'm already lucky even if it's a 15.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So...
34:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, great.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, great.
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I hate things stuff like this, but he also talks to me about his hips now.
34:10
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says that it's not hip this place here.
34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not like as easy as saying this is definitely arthritis.
34:23
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels worse than arthritis or a hip dysplasia.
34:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like the bones inside of the hip and the hip area is just increasingly thinner or thinner or more sensitive or I can't even find the American word for what I'm feeling right now.
34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: If polarization, would you say that?
34:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a word for that?
34:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Fragile, extremely fragile.
34:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
34:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And if ever you observe that he can't carry his weight on his hind legs and he falls to the ground mat, that wouldn't be very good.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That would definitely, in my opinion, be this sign,
35:15
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not good anymore.
35:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: As long as you can stand on all four legs, it's great.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the second, both of the Hind leg goes underneath them, it's going to be, I think it's going to be a sign for, I think it's enough.
35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all right.
35:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any other questions when it comes to health?
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Michelle's actually here.
35:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there she is.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: She comes to health.
35:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.
35:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.
35:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Just creeping in the background.
35:52
[SPEAKER_03]: You are welcome to join us.
35:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, curious about what's going on.
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He's had sort of been a longstanding thing.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He started like chattering probably two or three years ago.
36:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It took like three vets and three dentals to find that he had had like a piece of wood that had gotten like lodged into his gums and a super abscess tooth like his way way way back tooth And they got they got the tooth out which I was really optimistic would alleviate everything and it really did it
36:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, in the last like two years since then, the chattering has continued.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, um, so like what swallowing his breath has gotten really, really, really bad, um, and yeah, he's on a new med for it.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like meant to treat, um, nerve.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: things which seems to be helping a lot.
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be making him a bit wobbly and out of it as he gets used to the mad.
37:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really only been on it for a couple weeks.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, curious about oral health and also like his lair nicks, my vet has mentioned, it's just sort of something that happens with senior dogs, but it gets weaker and more paralyzed.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I guess really that that area for him between the mouth and the throat would be of interest to us.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a second.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: sure.
37:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He says, I don't have a problem with my teeth or my throat.
37:39
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is happening inside of my intestinal system.
37:43
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not in my mouth.
37:45
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm telling you, I don't know about chappering.
37:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about all these things your dad just mentioned.
37:51
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm pretty open to whatever because as the outsider and he says, um,
37:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's difficult for me to write down the food in general and the met is slowing down the system.
38:12
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that it's like rotten.
38:15
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry it sounds awful and we might have to edit this out because it's very, very, very honest, but he says,
38:25
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't poop anymore as I usually did, so I don't have the same amount of feces coming out of me because I contain it inside of my own intestinal system, so some of the bad breath I have is also caused by not breaking down the food because of the meds, so it is coming out of me.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever considered it could be a slow digestive digestive system and not just the gum and teeth?
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
38:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we've, he's gotten like GI panels and the that's looked at that angle too.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: His poops have actually been like,
39:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Up until a few months ago, they were almost rapid fire, like right after humidity, which was concerning, because it was like he doesn't seem to be digesting much of anything.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But we started, and he was having vomiting issues too, and we started splitting up his meals until like four or five small ones a day, and that seems to really be helping.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, because it's a small apportion to digest.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
39:39
[SPEAKER_03]: But you're actually pointing at two things here and validating two things, Matt, he already touched.
39:46
[SPEAKER_03]: One thing was the vomiting or the nauseous being nauseous because of the pain meds.
39:51
[SPEAKER_03]: And the second thing now is diarrhea or we have a poop problem here.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And it might be side effects from all the medication to be honest.
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let me see.
40:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the teeth and gums.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, thank you.
40:11
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about listening to his opinion of health, concerns, and his perspective of what he feels?
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I certainly, I put value in it.
40:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't want to let him be the sole decision maker.
40:31
[SPEAKER_01]: and his health, but I certainly put value in it.
40:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I'm playing with the bet right now about this new monthly injection that's supposed to really, really, really help older dogs with joint stuff.
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, to your point, like, he may not love going to the vet once a month.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
40:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I also sense like an openness in terms of if it really really helped him.
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: He may change his tune there, but so I would say generally to answer your question.
41:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's helpful to have his input on it, but I wouldn't necessarily let him be the soul decision maker and his health.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the rational thing to do Matt.
41:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's important.
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think talk to the vet about this.
41:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But in case you provide him with different meds in the future, I would highly consider removing or lowering the pain meds because pain medication that makes me extremely.
41:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I want to throw up.
41:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really helpful because I know part of the big appeal that this joint mat is that it could at least let us reduce.
41:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we, you know, look into a better digestive system or, you know, um, the bad breath might be removed, all right.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Matt.
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So are you ready for me to ask him about the relationship with the family?
42:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, just a second bail.
42:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about your family members.
42:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Matt and we have Michelle and we have Athena just a second of course He talks to me about you first.
42:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry to Michelle and Athena because you're my dad.
42:29
[SPEAKER_02]: He says I'm asking him
42:32
[SPEAKER_02]: do you have any messages to your dad you haven't already touched because we know about being the good air quote servant like the military for people who can't see what I'm doing right now being extremely happy for all these air quote commands all these tasks is there anything else besides from that you would like to tell your dad yeah uh he says
43:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel that when I feel that we were friends from the very beginning, it felt like not the father's son relationship or from the very beginning when I met you, it felt like having a best friend and we did everything together.
43:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I was one of the boy, air quote boys.
43:21
[SPEAKER_03]: And I got you through a lot of stuff back then because I forced you to keep focusing on
43:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you okay there, Matt?
43:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
43:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
43:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Michelle, give him a hug.
43:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because it resonates or because it's just emotion.
43:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: There we have, Michelle.
43:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
44:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Michelle.
44:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
44:07
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it that is emotional to you about this?
44:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Just what, like, how do you have a through line?
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Bale has been, like, in, I mean, a few ways that you mentioned, but just, yeah, that, like, how many of my friends?
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's one of the boys?
44:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
44:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just how many of my friends also love Bale.
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's just a character.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: The focus on him has allowed me to move through other aspects of my life in a more meaningful way or not be so in my head about my own things.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I appreciate that as well from him.
44:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:49
[SPEAKER_03]: He's pretty intelligent, right?
44:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he kind of forced you out, forced you to do the walks, forced you to go through a life.
44:57
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's intelligent.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:58
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I got into running only because of him.
45:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like is he just needed?
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He needed to run and I didn't know interest in running before that.
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's one of my favorite things to do.
45:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he was able to do it until like he was 13, which is pretty awesome.
45:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe.
45:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:20
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
45:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you handle more messages?
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Matt.
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not telling you I won't cry, but I can handle it.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
45:29
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:31
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Bale.
45:32
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got emotional.
45:34
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, thank you for everything you did.
45:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any other messages?
45:38
[SPEAKER_03]: You probably have a lot, but any other messages just a second.
45:45
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, in the most, in the happiest moments of my life when I was going for a walk or running with my dad, I only had the world in front of me and I took all of it in through my nose.
46:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I took all of it in and that was the happiest moment of my life because
46:08
[SPEAKER_03]: with the earth.
46:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I became one with the world.
46:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So he was actually walking you, with other words, when it was at his funniest place, if that makes sense.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that makes sense to me.
46:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So that he's grateful for.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
46:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm asking him, do you have any messages to Michelle and Athena because you are a family now, just a second.
46:33
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so he says Michelle, you have, you are sensitive to, I love that you have a great sense of humor.
46:41
[SPEAKER_03]: You're making all of us laugh a lot in the family and please keep being the positive person you are.
46:53
[SPEAKER_03]: You are very family orientated in general.
46:56
[SPEAKER_03]: You would like to focus on a collective and I'm not only focused on yourself.
47:03
[SPEAKER_03]: You could.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: You could focus on yourself and Athena.
47:07
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody would criticize you for it, but you will always
47:11
[SPEAKER_03]: focused on a bigger perspective, a higher perspective of what would be beneficial to all of us, and not just the four of you, but to your closest society and community.
47:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Does this make sense, Michelle?
47:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
47:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
47:30
[SPEAKER_05]: That's nice.
47:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
47:32
[SPEAKER_03]: What a great person you are.
47:34
[SPEAKER_03]: And Abel says, and that would what she's made out of, and I see you, and I feel you, and I know that you'll help me
47:47
[SPEAKER_03]: any regards possible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure to be honest if he would show you Matt, if he had a pro-lapse in the lower back, as he mentioned with not a pro-lapse, but you know, collapsing with the hind legs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I might prepare you in advance, he might do that with
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[SPEAKER_03]: because he feels that Michelle would be able to handle it better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Better than you would, Matt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The beauty of your relationship is that you create space for your daughter to be herself as opposed to being there you are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey Michelle, welcome to this show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because you are giving her space enough to be the way she is as opposed to being overprotective or I would be that like that as a mother to a girl like a thino be careful you know but you're not you're just laughing like we're all she'll take a lot of beatings but she'll figure it out and Belle says I love like absolutely love that energy when it comes to your daughter
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[SPEAKER_04]: does, yeah, I try to respect that life is an experiment and let her kind of learn from it, but within contained, safe containers, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What a great idea.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As I told you, I would be, be careful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so what a great job you're doing here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just feel literally bail is
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[SPEAKER_02]: just sending me all the love in this planet on this planet to you as the family members and he's very connected, even though it's a recent relationship you have met with Michelle Anathena, but he's very connected to both of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any last questions for Bale?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it's why he hit skateboard so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think more than scooters and the occasional bicycle but mostly skateboards and scooters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's actually also already mentioned it because I can hear the sound, not the right ear as much as the left ear, but the sound is annoying and he just holds us prior to this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a sensitivity when it comes to loud noises and movements at the skateboard and the scooter contains both of the things that is difficult for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: creating the same loud noise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's easier for me with the bike.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm still, you know, woo, where did that come from?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm aware when it comes to movements in general.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Matt, can you tell me what this was like?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was great to hear from Bale, like I think a lot of a lined up with,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I said says experience to be, and it was cool to have a verbalized to me through you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's, it's, I know we touched on this a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to hear bells perspective on what's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Medically and certainly to be able to balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: his needs there without taking it completely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once I'm not taking it to heart, just not avoiding the vet because he doesn't ever want to go to the vet, but maybe not engaging in some sort of joint treatment that would require him to go to like weekly, but maybe monthly or something is okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think just overall just
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[SPEAKER_01]: helpful, helpful to hear from, Bale, and it's a pretty sort of way that also just confirms a lot of the other ways in which I feel like I sort of hear from him already.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's wonderful that you listen to him and that you have these thoughts of how can we provide him the best life possible, of course, in any regards, but especially because of
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so Matt I will say goodbye to Bale for now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling him, thanks you so much for communicating with me and he said, you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's very polite.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not by See you or get out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just you're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Spoken like a true king.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It was great meeting you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You take care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the animal's voice with Ditte Young.